Thinking from the perspective that my city just had major riots in 2020 one mile from my home, i think this chest rig is great for a grab and go solution for citizens needing to bug out and have a decent amount of ammo in addition to the bug out bag. six AR mags with four glock mags in the front, and a flashlight + leatherman in the remaining two pouches doesn't seem overkill to me. for $30, hard to justify Haley Strategic prices.. most of us aren't "operators" or seeing firefights in Ramadi, we just need to defend property or avoid civil unrest on our city streets. thanks for the overview.
I took a thread puller, pulled all 6 of those little pistol mag pouch thingies and made this thing an actual usable rig without all that crap up front. Got a condor double pistol mag pouch and threw it on one of the molle sides. Sewed one of the deep pouches on the side halfway up so it holds a 30 rounder at a decent spot with the bungee. Added the hydro harness to the back. You can make this thing solidly workable with a little elbow grease.
That rig would work over body armor, maybe in law enforcement applications that a deputy sheriff might use since they have to buy their own gear,. This would also work in a pickup truck out on the ranch. For those who might think this is ridiculous. I'm a older former law enforement officer who is a farmer, rancher who has been in situations that having such a chest rig would provide security to handle the situation until the Deputy could respond. You are the first responder.
After watching this video several times I bought one of these and the hydration bladder carrier. I took a seam ripper and removed the center two pistol/whatever pouches so if needed I can get my happy old ass a little closer to terra firma when trying to secure some semblance of cover and concealment. It's a pretty nice rig, doesn't cost an arm and a leg and carries what I want and need it to carry. Thanks for the evaluation.
Condor also makes the mcr6 that holds 6 mags close to the body and has 12 rows of pals across the front and some elastic on each side for other stuff. The mesh pouch is big enough to hold the water resistant map pouch and the admin pocket goes the full length of the chest rig on the inside and has loop to attach things. I think its the best chest rig they make because you can add the hydration harness to it for a way to carry a bladder and other small stuff.
I have this rig and I like it. I ain’t rich so I don’t have the money to buy a higher end rig and all the other stuff I need. If the crap ever goes down at least I will have something. I got the hydration pack and attached it to the recon rig. I got the rip away small medical pouch, small gear pouch, roll up dump pouch, flashlight pouch and the tourniquet pouch. It was barely over $100. For just a plain rig of some other brands the rig itself was almost $200. I doubt very seriously this will ever get used but if it does I am confident in it. I have seen numerous comments on amazon from deployed soldiers using condor gear and it holding up fine. Some people just like to knock it because it’s cheap. I hear the same crap about PSA rifles and primary arms optics. Both of which are great.
I keep this rig as my minute man load out. I run the 6 AR mags, 3 pistol mags, multi tool, flashlight, and OC spray in the front pouches. I will say that going prone is a pain in the ASS. So that's a weak point. BUT, when you attach the hydropack to the back and the front bib, it becomes way more modular...
First thing to do is take a seam ripper and take that stupid X-harness hook and loop retainer off the back. Much more comfortable after that. Love that this rig will hold 6 x 5.56, 3 x AK mags, or 3 x 7.62 mags.
@@ZomCon7.62x39 I used Strike Hard Gear SKS stripper clip pouches and two SKS Stripper Clip bandoliers. Each clip pouch holds four clips and each bandolier holds ten clips.
Hard times I'd wear it. If you tossed it my way in time of need id wear it . I haven't been watching long but I can already tell your knowledge in this area is invaluable. All I can honestly say to you is you keep my gears turning keep up the good work
Great review, i was looking for light recce rig and this is just perfect, i run ak platform, that is what we use in army, so, kind of makes more sense here than ar platform (yes we can have all god stuff here, hi-cap semis etc.) You have a nice channel. Greedings from Finland!
Bear- I really appreciate your review on this. It was a pleasure to watch. It was very helpful since I have been looking all over for a war belt that I could put my Lego guys in. This will do!!!
Direct Action has a plate carrier that is modular so you can break down the chest rig and mount it to your armor with fast clips . i have the carrier just waiting to get the chest rig .
I dont have to worry about that I just grab put on and go, no worries that it wont work, no worries it will come undone, grab put on and go clean up commies
I started watching your channel in light of the shit happening in our country and Ik I’m just a dumb marine grunt but I do feel that were on the cusp of a civil war/revolution where at some point we’re going to be trading rounds with someone who would like to kill me or my family. I agree with you brother, we need to wake up and go do. I’ve been an 0311 for 4 years and I’m on my 2nd contract, I’ve trained for 98% of those four years. I’ve never had too shoot anyone. I’ve been close. And even I am still training in my off time. All the time. I spend at least an hour a day in my gear doing dry fire/ speed reloads. I practice shooting as much as I can afford. I’m a firm believer that bullets don’t care about your combat experience nor do they care who you are and how expensive your gear is. They don’t care about your training or how proficient you are. So you better get your bullets out before the others start coming at you. Train hard and get what you can afford. What’s coming is going to require all of us to be ready. Instead of bitching at each other about condor gear and dpms rifles we should be communicating and forming together. I’d rather have 10 guys with 200$ PSA rifles and condor gear with training than the one guy with the 1000$ plate carrier and the 3000$ scar whose never been cold or dirty and doesn’t know what it’s like to be wet and cold. Thank you bear for preaching man I love your channel. Semper fi
On the pistol thing, whoever you’re handing this rig and a rifle to may already have a pistol and a few mags to begin with. Maybe throw pocket smokes, distraction devices, or whatever else in the secondary pouches depending on what kind of stupidity is occurring outside that would necessitate handing out rifles and gear. Also, on using Condor gear for war, I used a Condor plate carrier during my 2010-11 deployment to Afghanistan as an Army infantryman instead of the issue IOTV. It worked just fine, took going to ground more times than I can count, and didn’t self destruct. In fact, I’ve got it hanging up in my closet.
I bought one, and the hydration kit,. I added an EMT lite pouch with TQ pouch, dump pouch, small radio pouch, and holster. The center two pistol mag pouches are gone thanks to a seam ripper and it fits well and carries enough. It's my "downstairs" rig so I don't have to do wind sprints on the stairs to get to my kit.
I think your current vest setup is much more usable and adjustable than the "recon" rig. I use a modified/updated webgear system similar to the old Vietnam LC1 gear, mainly with the newer belt cushion and molle pouches, a modified drop holster rig, and 2.5 liter bladder. It works for me. Previously I was using LC1 gear with four canteens, "H" suspenders and butt pack, and a chest rig that carried an additional ten 30 round mags.
I have one that I use for airsoft games and considered using as a minuteman rig. I liked the 6-mag capacity and the MOLLE space on the sides, but I had absolutely no use for the 6 pistol mag pouches up front. I ended up removing them with a seam ripper. The rig just looks so much smoother without the pistol mag pouches.
A suggestion for your hydration issue...put water bottles/canteens in the pockets that are too deep for mags. The chances of you needing to give that to someone is low....to me, it makes sense to not dump money into a new hydration bladder just for the sake of...what? Looks? idk. Or, outfit a 72hr buddy pack that has an integrated hydration bladder.
Good idea on the water bottles; The reason I have buddy kits, even though *all* of my buddies have gear, is in case they show up "naked" in an emergency. Also, who knows who The Father might bring my way...
Big brother. 6 filled with Different things. Instance. Lady's tampons it helps patch up a bleeding wound" guys bandage wraps . And maybe something else for the recon. Lol man. They don't know. Your 100 % right" that recon sounds expensive !. Thank you for the video update on gear & supplies talk !. Others need to keep a open mind" thinking outside the box" for grabbing what they need !. Sincerely" lil bro out~. P.s don't acknowledge any of them that haven't gone and try to Correct you ! They don't even know what it's like big bro !. God bless you and much love brother paul~.
I made the same mistake buying the chest rig first. Finally got myself a plate carrier with a couple plates. Now my chest rig will just be for a buddy. I used the pistol pockets for tourniquets, multitool, monocular, flashlight plus a couple pistol mags. They service as good utility pockets. I also have the hydro pack for it which does help to balance the weight of the rig front to back.
Hahaha when u said "condor is for airsoft not for war!” 🤣. I have a condor, I had no issues yet, yet.. I personally have both a rig from spiritus rig and the quality is almost the same, well as in the material, the stitching on the spiritus is by far better tho. Just add more stitching too the condor you should be good
I run this. Used it the other night when antifa came to "burn down my towns business, homes, and kill our police". Worked great. I use 6 40 round ak mags, a few pistol mags, extra medical supplies, an extra charger and a few granola bars. I run, work out, and run drills with it. I couldn't be happier with it myself. Also you showed me 2 pockets i didnt notice it had lol. I prefer the 30 dollar one as i can wear a backpack with it for water and back up supplies that i can take off if something kicks off. I wouldnt wsnt water on my back if im having to fight. Just me i like to keep it light as possible. Just my preference
@@AboveAvgAngel totally man. Its great after you get it adjusted really well for your body. Just make sure its om the tighter side and itll serve you well
@@patricianoftheplebs6015 any day we domt have to fire is a good day brother. I pray it stays that way. What part of la? I was born in whittier and lived in la till i moved 3 years ago.
The Recon hits the spot for me I only weigh a hundred sixty-one pounds and as far as the pistol mag carriers only use 4 I have a lighter in one a flashlight in the
A canteen pouch with canteen is cheaper and won’t puncture like a camelback or other bladder system. You can put two canteen pouches on it too for gloves, notebook and pen, respirator, etc. and it may be cheaper
I have that rig but it’s a plain molly field. No permanent pouches. I’m running 4 m14/m1a mags across the front and a couple other things ( ifak, radio). I carry my hydro bladder in my assault pack. It’s more comfortable than carrying the pack over a bladder. I like it but honestly I’ve never done any hard training with it. If I had to go to war with it I would replace the swivel clips with something a little beefier.
I run one with a hydro harness and the chest piece without tge sewn in pouches then I run 6 ak single stack pouches across the front with 25ft paracord sewing in a dangler pouch up front I have a dump pouch on belt to retain mags quickly and sorting out a medical tear away pouch on belt too so it's always with me no matter what
Awesome setup for the cost ... I filled my rifle mag pouches with my mini 14 mags. I removed the side pistol mag pouches (yep ripped out the stitching). In the side pocket behind the rig I put a knife... compass in the other side.. a water bottle beside.. I attached a radio pouch pretty much where you placed yours.. and my first aid kit besides... This is my home rig not going to fight a war... and it is definitely better than not. My much better military grade rig is setup for shotgun..
Great thoughts, have to admit I had not considered putting in place "Buddy Gear". Only refugee buckets and send them on there way. You brought up a good point regards taking someone in regards long arms and side arms. Perhaps you could asign some your Cadre to cover quarter master and issue gear and someone to test the FNG Even if you land a VET or LEO, logistics personnel only handle a firearm during qualification, they out number trigger pullers (3-4 to 1) you might land a country boy or girl or city dweller who is firearm profficiant, but then they will need to come up to speed in other areas. Wow this could be a really good discussion breaking down the elements. Anyway just my random babblying sorry folks.
Those deep pockets are designed for PRC-148/152 MBITR radios. Also take a destitch tool and take off those front pistol mag pouches. You don't need pistol mags up front nor do you need a pouch designated for a flashlight you use once in a blue moon.
I'm back to take notes. I think a chest rig back-up in the alternate weapons closet/ food storage/ zombie apocalypse storage unit/thing will be just the ticket. For me at least.
I am looking at getting the condor MCR1. It can fit a 10" X 12" front plate. And I can get my own molly gear for reasonable. :)$34 bucks for the chest rig. The plate will be a about $200 and the gear for about $35 to $40.
We looked at chest rigs but our team uses plate carriers. It gives us more area to work with and the armor carrying capability. But we are in a cooler climate if we still lived down south we might have gone the other way.
I have one of these and it's a good back up system. I also can use it for a friend. It's a very good base model for someone, I also got the CamelBak that attaches to it
I have the Recon and added a Condor VT holster for a G21, which fits like is was MADE for the G21, with three spare mags (plus the six, 30 rounders). Also, i added a Condor Roll- Up Pouch bag to the other side. I put a small Schrade knife in one of the other mag pockets, fits great. That leaves me two empty pockets. What to put? Oh, a flashlight in one. That leaves me one empty. What to put? Yes, six spare pistol mag pockets seems stoopid. Maybe a rolled up photo of Eva Greene?
I liked the recon rig. Gave it away when I bought spare armor and carrier. I switched to 40 rnd mags now I only carry 4 mags on the chest, so no need for so many pouches.
The pistol pouches are good for chem lights, a multi tool, a flashlight, and a couple mags. I also use the Hydro harness. Would it be my go to "go to war" kit? No, but I'm a fat ass in AZ that wanted something practical to go shooting in the desert. It's been working since 2019 for whatever that's worth
I run mine as a first line (that or the warbelt), except I have holster where the med pack is and put the blowout kit in the one the m4 mag pouches piggybacked with the radio. On the left is a combo pouch of additional first aid and sustainment kit. Question for you: How high do you ruin your kit? I see some running their more like a belly rig? Been trying to find a way to add a bib section as to maybe throw in light weight 8x10 plate.
Great Review with lots of considerations. How do you program the Ken wood radios? Does it come with software to do it or do you have to find an Elmor somewhere that knows how to use the Force of communication to manipulate it? Definitely not a commo Guy here. I picked up kit for house members but never thought of sourcing out kit for others. Good call.
I have some condor stuff. It does fill a gap. The material is adequate but I have had to reinforce some of the sewing. Don't trust th swivel clips. They will fail even with moderate use.
@@BearIndependent I also have the modular rig set up as my grab and go, bump kit. Works well for me. But like I said I went back and reinforced the sewing at the stress points. Blessings
If you want to utilize those deep pockets with AR mags then put some magpuls (paracord and duct tape) on your mags. I have them on all of my mags anyways. 👍🏻
I don’t have the money for a plate carrier or the plates yet but I got an ar recently barely got the sights n haven’t been able to go sight it in yet lol who knows with the way this is going
Brother Bear I thoroughly enjoy your content. I watched the video on how to start our own group, but how do I go about finding a group that already exists if there is one? I just moved to middle Georgia and need to get plugged in.
As far as the hydration issue goes with it I think many of us already have a hydration kit of some kind anyway I have more than I can carry I like the rig because it's a maximum value it's suitable for field use doesn't cost too much comes with with magazine pouches integrated and I can just simply throw on one of my CamelBaks that already own know me personally I have plenty of this type of gear already but if I was looking for another kit to Cache somewhere I would consider it
I would use that for people whom are assigned to stand a two- four hr watch. almond with a web belt, canteen, stainment pouch. chest rig only coms. ammo..first aid.. ect..
What's The Number #1 Rule In A Gunfight ??? To HAVE More Ammo Than Your Enemy... I Like The Idea Of The 6 Pistol Mag Pouches, Especially In An Urban Area Of Operation... Going Room To Room Is Alot Better Useing A Pistol, The More Pistol Mags U Have, The Better Off U Will Be... When I Get My Recon Chest Rig (R.C.R), I Will Be Running A CANIK TP9-SFX-9mm, That Holds 20+1 & Haveing 6 Mags Of 120+ Rds Of Ammo, Is An Increase In My Firepower... Just Remember, U Can Always Fit Other Items In Some Of Those Pouches To...
I would rather have it on a plate carrier but it’s not an option at the moment so something affordable and usable is what’s needed in case of an emergency nowadays
Nice Rig Brother. As for Range Shooting it would be good for where I shoot at. A lot of times we can’t pull truck out to range . It would serve good to carry mags that you were using for that day Shooting. How are the bigger pouches on each side attached?
MOLLE Condor makes a bajillion and two (ok, the two might be an exaggeration. ...) chest rigs, and plate carriers. If you want to customize your load to suit your needs there are a couple that are just big MOLLE panels. Most of them can also ditch the shoulder straps, and replace them with a very nice hydration carrier.
@@bigpoppa6998 their web address is condoroutdoor.com. You can't buy direct from them, but you'll see the entire line. I've never tried it, but I hear good things about their clothing too.
I actually have three sets of LBE. Since I did Second World War reenacting for two and a half years I own an M-1 Garand and some WW-2 vintage and reproduction web gear. So with some surplus M-56 and ALICE gear I built a rig using the M-1923 Cartridge Belt as its base. Attached to the belt are an M-1942 First Aid Dressing Pouch, two M-1910 Canteen Covers with canteens and cups, an M-3 Combat Knife, an M-61 Field Pack/ Butt Pack, a set M-56 of long H-Suspenders and on the butt pack I attached an M-56 Universal Ammunition Pouch in which I built a first aid kit and straped a Vietnam vintage rubberized poncho to its bottom. I also built my AR kit using an LC-2 Belt, two LC-2 M-16 magazine pouches, another set of M-56 H-Suspenders, another M-61 Butt Pack with two LC-2 Canteen Covers with canteens and cups and a poncho with liner, a first aid and compass pouch with a tritium lensatic compass and two first aid/ compass pouches with pressure bandages.
The third set uses an LC-2 belt, three M-56 ammunition pouches, a first aid/ compass pouch with lensatic compass and another with a pressure bandage, an M-56 Butt Pack, two ALICE canteen covers with canteens and cups. This like my Modular Chest rig is a loner.
@@d.l.hemmingway3758 you have a lot !. Nice !. Maybe in a perfect world I could lay on my back or belly with that and not get seen but lol in recon it's quite a very hard thing to do man !. Actually they rarely notice you in plain sight sometimes if you are blending in with the environment !. Hence your stuff is very overwhelming" I'd say try a making your presents known act and I'd wager they'd indefinitely be alerted and watching out !. Tell me this" can what you have help in a real life situation where that the Kuku nest isn't their anymore" theirs is only chaos and havoc" would it help you survive in those type of situations because that's a thought worth thinking of !. Not to upset i'm actually thinking about trying to set up myself a similar set of gear man.
Paul, the three kits were set up using gear I had on hand. Most of the sets are already weathered so they're naturally camouflaged. Also I don't wear all the same camouflage or same color in the field. I tend to wear neutral and natural colors mostly earth tones.
Also I did serve, but as a Field Artillery Cannon Crewman then an Armored Vehicle Crewman on M-60 series Tanks and finally a Metal Crafter in the Maintenance Platoon of an Army Guard Engineer Dump Truck Company.
A SHTF could be a flood like hurricane where bugging in may not be a good idea aka (hurricane Maria, Katrina and Harvey) IMO its best to be flexable and have both plans
Ok the buddy gear can help save your life .. Its a grate team starter. But the rifle to a stranger must come with its own risk to reward thought processes . what are the tells a "buddy" gets the trust with the rifle and load out gear?
I have that chest rig. Used it for a while then ordered the MCR4. From combat experience in the Battle of Ramadi, i dont like having the pouches stacked like the ones are on the Recon either....get stuck between shtuff while on patrols. (Too bulky) I thought about just cutting those pistol mags off. I moved my pistol mags to my belt and put single mag pouches on the new MCR4. Also...i havent found ANY use for the pouvhes in the back...mags just fall down in em. Lol
Those are obviously not meant to be pistol mag pouches. King Size PayDay candy bars fit them. ;)
hahahaha just spit water.....
Reply of the day!! You win sir!
Lol do you think I can put a radio In There ?
Thinking from the perspective that my city just had major riots in 2020 one mile from my home, i think this chest rig is great for a grab and go solution for citizens needing to bug out and have a decent amount of ammo in addition to the bug out bag. six AR mags with four glock mags in the front, and a flashlight + leatherman in the remaining two pouches doesn't seem overkill to me. for $30, hard to justify Haley Strategic prices.. most of us aren't "operators" or seeing firefights in Ramadi, we just need to defend property or avoid civil unrest on our city streets. thanks for the overview.
This was 3 yrs ago! And shit is really going ape shit now! What chest rig did you settle with chief?!
I took a thread puller, pulled all 6 of those little pistol mag pouch thingies and made this thing an actual usable rig without all that crap up front. Got a condor double pistol mag pouch and threw it on one of the molle sides. Sewed one of the deep pouches on the side halfway up so it holds a 30 rounder at a decent spot with the bungee. Added the hydro harness to the back. You can make this thing solidly workable with a little elbow grease.
The mcr6 holds 6 Ar mags flatter without the pistol mags but I’m sure you know of it by now
That rig would work over body armor, maybe in law enforcement applications that a deputy sheriff might use since they have to buy their own gear,. This would also work in a pickup truck out on the ranch. For those who might think this is ridiculous. I'm a older former law enforement officer who is a farmer, rancher who has been in situations that having such a chest rig would provide security to handle the situation until the Deputy could respond. You are the first responder.
I have a discreet carrier which this fits over well, best to be in two pieces in case you have to shed the weight quickly
Condor also has an hydration pack that replaces the shoulder straps. I highly recommend.
After watching this video several times I bought one of these and the hydration bladder carrier. I took a seam ripper and removed the center two pistol/whatever pouches so if needed I can get my happy old ass a little closer to terra firma when trying to secure some semblance of cover and concealment. It's a pretty nice rig, doesn't cost an arm and a leg and carries what I want and need it to carry. Thanks for the evaluation.
The Chinese typ 63 chest rigs work really nice with ar mags works good and cheap and durable
Condor also makes the mcr6 that holds 6 mags close to the body and has 12 rows of pals across the front and some elastic on each side for other stuff. The mesh pouch is big enough to hold the water resistant map pouch and the admin pocket goes the full length of the chest rig on the inside and has loop to attach things. I think its the best chest rig they make because you can add the hydration harness to it for a way to carry a bladder and other small stuff.
I might get one of those for Testing & Evaluation; thanks brother!
if you had to chose one which is better the velocity or the condor?
I have this rig and I like it. I ain’t rich so I don’t have the money to buy a higher end rig and all the other stuff I need. If the crap ever goes down at least I will have something. I got the hydration pack and attached it to the recon rig. I got the rip away small medical pouch, small gear pouch, roll up dump pouch, flashlight pouch and the tourniquet pouch. It was barely over $100. For just a plain rig of some other brands the rig itself was almost $200. I doubt very seriously this will ever get used but if it does I am confident in it. I have seen numerous comments on amazon from deployed soldiers using condor gear and it holding up fine. Some people just like to knock it because it’s cheap. I hear the same crap about PSA rifles and primary arms optics. Both of which are great.
I keep this rig as my minute man load out. I run the 6 AR mags, 3 pistol mags, multi tool, flashlight, and OC spray in the front pouches. I will say that going prone is a pain in the ASS. So that's a weak point. BUT, when you attach the hydropack to the back and the front bib, it becomes way more modular...
First thing to do is take a seam ripper and take that stupid X-harness hook and loop retainer off the back. Much more comfortable after that.
Love that this rig will hold 6 x 5.56, 3 x AK mags, or 3 x 7.62 mags.
I have the Condor Modular Chest Rig. I use it for my AR or SKS depending on the pouches I've attached to the rig.
@@ZomCon7.62x39 I used Strike Hard Gear SKS stripper clip pouches and two SKS Stripper Clip bandoliers. Each clip pouch holds four clips and each bandolier holds ten clips.
Multi tool for one of the pistol mag pouches and a Flashlight, knife, Fire starter/compass and 2 Glock mags for the rest. I like this chest rig.
Hard times I'd wear it. If you tossed it my way in time of need id wear it . I haven't been watching long but I can already tell your knowledge in this area is invaluable. All I can honestly say to you is you keep my gears turning keep up the good work
Great review, i was looking for light recce rig and this is just perfect, i run ak platform, that is what we use in army, so, kind of makes more sense here than ar platform (yes we can have all god stuff here, hi-cap semis etc.) You have a nice channel. Greedings from Finland!
Bear- I really appreciate your review on this. It was a pleasure to watch. It was very helpful since I have been looking all over for a war belt that I could put my Lego guys in. This will do!!!
I prefer a plate carrier myself, I know I know its heavy, and it is bulky..... but you know I don't want bullet holes in me
Direct Action has a plate carrier that is modular so you can break down the chest rig and mount it to your armor with fast clips . i have the carrier just waiting to get the chest rig .
I dont have to worry about that I just grab put on and go, no worries that it wont work, no worries it will come undone, grab put on and go clean up commies
Why not run both? Min plate carrier with set up with ur extra gear you dont need for shot games
I just want one to hold my shit on hand when training at the range but plate carrier all day everyday for when or if shtf
You can wear a minimalist plate carrier under this. it has advantages and disadvantages.
Awesome video man, I like that you prove that you don't have to spend loads of money on gear.
I started watching your channel in light of the shit happening in our country and Ik I’m just a dumb marine grunt but I do feel that were on the cusp of a civil war/revolution where at some point we’re going to be trading rounds with someone who would like to kill me or my family. I agree with you brother, we need to wake up and go do. I’ve been an 0311 for 4 years and I’m on my 2nd contract, I’ve trained for 98% of those four years. I’ve never had too shoot anyone. I’ve been close. And even I am still training in my off time. All the time. I spend at least an hour a day in my gear doing dry fire/ speed reloads. I practice shooting as much as I can afford. I’m a firm believer that bullets don’t care about your combat experience nor do they care who you are and how expensive your gear is. They don’t care about your training or how proficient you are. So you better get your bullets out before the others start coming at you. Train hard and get what you can afford. What’s coming is going to require all of us to be ready. Instead of bitching at each other about condor gear and dpms rifles we should be communicating and forming together. I’d rather have 10 guys with 200$ PSA rifles and condor gear with training than the one guy with the 1000$ plate carrier and the 3000$ scar whose never been cold or dirty and doesn’t know what it’s like to be wet and cold. Thank you bear for preaching man I love your channel. Semper fi
Thank you for the best walk through I have seen on YT ... I still may stick with my LBE and Ruck...'cause muscle memory blah blah blah... lol
I've used my LBE and ruck, for decades hunting in Kalifornia.
On the pistol thing, whoever you’re handing this rig and a rifle to may already have a pistol and a few mags to begin with.
Maybe throw pocket smokes, distraction devices, or whatever else in the secondary pouches depending on what kind of stupidity is occurring outside that would necessitate handing out rifles and gear.
Also, on using Condor gear for war, I used a Condor plate carrier during my 2010-11 deployment to Afghanistan as an Army infantryman instead of the issue IOTV. It worked just fine, took going to ground more times than I can count, and didn’t self destruct. In fact, I’ve got it hanging up in my closet.
I bought one, and the hydration kit,. I added an EMT lite pouch with TQ pouch, dump pouch, small radio pouch, and holster. The center two pistol mag pouches are gone thanks to a seam ripper and it fits well and carries enough. It's my "downstairs" rig so I don't have to do wind sprints on the stairs to get to my kit.
I’ve seen a lot of guys wearing this over sleek plate carriers. Seemed to work just fine. Pretty much stacking their rigs.
I think your current vest setup is much more usable and adjustable than the "recon" rig. I use a modified/updated webgear system similar to the old Vietnam LC1 gear, mainly with the newer belt cushion and molle pouches, a modified drop holster rig, and 2.5 liter bladder. It works for me. Previously I was using LC1 gear with four canteens, "H" suspenders and butt pack, and a chest rig that carried an additional ten 30 round mags.
This video really helped me figure out a solution, after much researching and head scratching. Lol. Many thanks!
I have one that I use for airsoft games and considered using as a minuteman rig. I liked the 6-mag capacity and the MOLLE space on the sides, but I had absolutely no use for the 6 pistol mag pouches up front.
I ended up removing them with a seam ripper. The rig just looks so much smoother without the pistol mag pouches.
I'm going to do that to mine now thank you
A suggestion for your hydration issue...put water bottles/canteens in the pockets that are too deep for mags. The chances of you needing to give that to someone is low....to me, it makes sense to not dump money into a new hydration bladder just for the sake of...what? Looks? idk. Or, outfit a 72hr buddy pack that has an integrated hydration bladder.
Good idea on the water bottles; The reason I have buddy kits, even though *all* of my buddies have gear, is in case they show up "naked" in an emergency. Also, who knows who The Father might bring my way...
Big brother. 6 filled with Different things. Instance. Lady's tampons it helps patch up a bleeding wound" guys bandage wraps . And maybe something else for the recon. Lol man. They don't know. Your 100 % right" that recon sounds expensive !. Thank you for the video update on gear & supplies talk !. Others need to keep a open mind" thinking outside the box" for grabbing what they need !. Sincerely" lil bro out~.
P.s don't acknowledge any of them that haven't gone and try to Correct you ! They don't even know what it's like big bro !. God bless you and much love brother paul~.
I made the same mistake buying the chest rig first. Finally got myself a plate carrier with a couple plates. Now my chest rig will just be for a buddy. I used the pistol pockets for tourniquets, multitool, monocular, flashlight plus a couple pistol mags. They service as good utility pockets. I also have the hydro pack for it which does help to balance the weight of the rig front to back.
Hahaha when u said "condor is for airsoft not for war!” 🤣. I have a condor, I had no issues yet, yet.. I personally have both a rig from spiritus rig and the quality is almost the same, well as in the material, the stitching on the spiritus is by far better tho. Just add more stitching too the condor you should be good
This is awesome I been wanting to get a chest rig and could not decide which one to get. This helps alot
Id suggest getting the condor rapid assault instead of this one, you can not get prone in this one that well
@@troydodson4837 I will look into that
@@kodyhunt1394 the OD green one on amazon is 31$ right now
I've that same rig. Works very well. I was even able to wear it with a Condor plate carrier with AR500 front/back plates.
I would get good use out of all the pistol mag slots because I have a Marlin camp9 9mm carbine!
I run this. Used it the other night when antifa came to "burn down my towns business, homes, and kill our police". Worked great. I use 6 40 round ak mags, a few pistol mags, extra medical supplies, an extra charger and a few granola bars. I run, work out, and run drills with it. I couldn't be happier with it myself. Also you showed me 2 pockets i didnt notice it had lol. I prefer the 30 dollar one as i can wear a backpack with it for water and back up supplies that i can take off if something kicks off. I wouldnt wsnt water on my back if im having to fight. Just me i like to keep it light as possible. Just my preference
Good shit dude. I plan on getting this same rig for my AR mags primarily. Good to know it’s durable enough for that many mags.
@@AboveAvgAngel totally man. Its great after you get it adjusted really well for your body. Just make sure its om the tighter side and itll serve you well
Same I used a similar set up during the riots a few months ago. I live in Los Angeles. Thankfully no pew pew happened. Thankfully and sadly.
@@patricianoftheplebs6015 any day we domt have to fire is a good day brother. I pray it stays that way. What part of la? I was born in whittier and lived in la till i moved 3 years ago.
David Rivera I live in the valleys. Lol
The Recon hits the spot for me I only weigh a hundred sixty-one pounds and as far as the pistol mag carriers only use 4 I have a lighter in one a flashlight in the
Good to see another BAMF who's not here to BS anyone. Keep it up.
A canteen pouch with canteen is cheaper and won’t puncture like a camelback or other bladder system. You can put two canteen pouches on it too for gloves, notebook and pen, respirator, etc. and it may be cheaper
you can put multi tool in the pistol mag
Suggestion: Maybe do a video of what to do and what not to do when one will “bug in.” 🙏🏻
You had me at "keystone"
I have that rig but it’s a plain molly field. No permanent pouches. I’m running 4 m14/m1a mags across the front and a couple other things ( ifak, radio). I carry my hydro bladder in my assault pack. It’s more comfortable than carrying the pack over a bladder. I like it but honestly I’ve never done any hard training with it. If I had to go to war with it I would replace the swivel clips with something a little beefier.
Great video again! Good solid idea, gear for “buddies”!
You can get a TAP new in package for $12 if you look around or jump on sales
I run one with a hydro harness and the chest piece without tge sewn in pouches then I run 6 ak single stack pouches across the front with 25ft paracord sewing in a dangler pouch up front I have a dump pouch on belt to retain mags quickly and sorting out a medical tear away pouch on belt too so it's always with me no matter what
Awesome setup for the cost ... I filled my rifle mag pouches with my mini 14 mags. I removed the side pistol mag pouches (yep ripped out the stitching). In the side pocket behind the rig I put a knife... compass in the other side.. a water bottle beside.. I attached a radio pouch pretty much where you placed yours.. and my first aid kit besides... This is my home rig not going to fight a war... and it is definitely better than not. My much better military grade rig is setup for shotgun..
Great thoughts, have to admit I had not considered putting in place "Buddy Gear". Only refugee buckets and send them on there way. You brought up a good point regards taking someone in regards long arms and side arms. Perhaps you could asign some your Cadre to cover quarter master and issue gear and someone to test the FNG
Even if you land a VET or LEO, logistics personnel only handle a firearm during qualification, they out number trigger pullers (3-4 to 1) you might land a country boy or girl or city dweller who is firearm profficiant, but then they will need to come up to speed in other areas. Wow this could be a really good discussion breaking down the elements. Anyway just my random babblying sorry folks.
Those deep pockets are designed for PRC-148/152 MBITR radios. Also take a destitch tool and take off those front pistol mag pouches. You don't need pistol mags up front nor do you need a pouch designated for a flashlight you use once in a blue moon.
I'm back to take notes. I think a chest rig back-up in the alternate weapons closet/ food storage/ zombie apocalypse storage unit/thing will be just the ticket. For me at least.
I had to subscribe lol. He's too real and funny lol
I have a. Similar condor chest rig, the inner pocket up front will hold a soft gut plate. If you want
I am looking at getting the condor MCR1. It can fit a 10" X 12" front plate. And I can get my own molly gear for reasonable. :)$34 bucks for the chest rig. The plate will be a about $200 and the gear for about $35 to $40.
I liked both of those rigs but the shoulders were a lil too thick for me picked up a brand new flc for $7 + s/h on Ebay. Great videos!
good standard equipment for an A5A revolutionary patriot infantryman
We looked at chest rigs but our team uses plate carriers. It gives us more area to work with and the armor carrying capability. But we are in a cooler climate if we still lived down south we might have gone the other way.
That’s why I got the slick one
I have one of these and it's a good back up system. I also can use it for a friend. It's a very good base model for someone, I also got the CamelBak that attaches to it
Really the outer 4 are used for pistol mags and the middle two torch and leatherman
Nice rig, I like my UW Gear mini minuteman, it works best for me.
I have the Recon and added a Condor VT holster for a G21, which fits like is was MADE for the G21, with three spare mags (plus the six, 30 rounders). Also, i added a Condor Roll- Up Pouch bag to the other side. I put a small Schrade knife in one of the other mag pockets, fits great. That leaves me two empty pockets. What to put? Oh, a flashlight in one. That leaves me one empty. What to put? Yes, six spare pistol mag pockets seems stoopid. Maybe a rolled up photo of Eva Greene?
Bear I believe you can fit a red bull cannon those pistol holsters.
I liked the recon rig. Gave it away when I bought spare armor and carrier. I switched to 40 rnd mags now I only carry 4 mags on the chest, so no need for so many pouches.
The pistol pouches are good for chem lights, a multi tool, a flashlight, and a couple mags.
I also use the Hydro harness.
Would it be my go to "go to war" kit? No, but I'm a fat ass in AZ that wanted something practical to go shooting in the desert. It's been working since 2019 for whatever that's worth
Epic rig boss man!
I run mine as a first line (that or the warbelt), except I have holster where the med pack is and put the blowout kit in the one the m4 mag pouches piggybacked with the radio. On the left is a combo pouch of additional first aid and sustainment kit.
Question for you: How high do you ruin your kit? I see some running their more like a belly rig?
Been trying to find a way to add a bib section as to maybe throw in light weight 8x10 plate.
some rolled up swat t tourniquets would maybe work in those pistol pouches
Great Review with lots of considerations. How do you program the Ken wood radios? Does it come with software to do it or do you have to find an Elmor somewhere that knows how to use the Force of communication to manipulate it? Definitely not a commo Guy here. I picked up kit for house members but never thought of sourcing out kit for others. Good call.
I have some condor stuff. It does fill a gap. The material is adequate but I have had to reinforce some of the sewing. Don't trust th swivel clips. They will fail even with moderate use.
Yeah, I def have a concern over those; the Modular Chest Set has held up real well for me though.
@@BearIndependent I also have the modular rig set up as my grab and go, bump kit. Works well for me. But like I said I went back and reinforced the sewing at the stress points. Blessings
It looks like it will fail walking around with 6-10 mags in it...
Great Informative Vid! do you think front good for 20 or 30 rd scorpion evo mags?
Good review. We got similar stuff if someone shows up empty handed.
Sounds like a Patreon monthly giveaway item. Good review.
hhahahaha maybe.....
If you want to utilize those deep pockets with AR mags then put some magpuls (paracord and duct tape) on your mags. I have them on all of my mags anyways. 👍🏻
I don't have the money for an AR r anything like that so quick question how would you set something like that up for an Archer
I don’t have the money for a plate carrier or the plates yet but I got an ar recently barely got the sights n haven’t been able to go sight it in yet lol who knows with the way this is going
Brother Bear I thoroughly enjoy your content. I watched the video on how to start our own group, but how do I go about finding a group that already exists if there is one? I just moved to middle Georgia and need to get plugged in.
As far as the hydration issue goes with it I think many of us already have a hydration kit of some kind anyway I have more than I can carry I like the rig because it's a maximum value it's suitable for field use doesn't cost too much comes with with magazine pouches integrated and I can just simply throw on one of my CamelBaks that already own know me personally I have plenty of this type of gear already but if I was looking for another kit to Cache somewhere I would consider it
I would use that for people whom are assigned to stand a two- four hr watch.
almond with a web belt, canteen,
stainment pouch.
chest rig only coms. ammo..first aid.. ect..
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Put a multi tool in one of the pouches
What's The Number #1 Rule In A Gunfight ???
To HAVE More Ammo Than Your Enemy...
I Like The Idea Of The 6 Pistol Mag Pouches, Especially In An Urban Area Of Operation...
Going Room To Room Is Alot Better Useing A Pistol, The More Pistol Mags U Have, The Better Off U Will Be... When I Get My Recon Chest Rig (R.C.R), I Will Be Running A CANIK TP9-SFX-9mm, That Holds 20+1 & Haveing 6 Mags Of 120+ Rds Of Ammo, Is An Increase In My Firepower...
Just Remember, U Can Always Fit Other Items In Some Of Those Pouches To...
seems like the recon chest rig fits more into less padded area on your body than the modular one.
I'd use 4 of the pouches for pistol mags and the other 2 for string cheese. 3 string cheese per pouch is a awesome snack for hours😉
I would rather have it on a plate carrier but it’s not an option at the moment so something affordable and usable is what’s needed in case of an emergency nowadays
To be used by A5A mechanized infantry
Those 6 pouches can hold 3 1911 mags and 3 jumbo snickers bars.
Which is better when shooting prone
are you pulling recon for construction work? Since you're a construction worker?
Nice Rig Brother. As for Range Shooting it would be good for where I shoot at. A lot of times we can’t pull truck out to range . It would serve good to carry mags that you were using for that day Shooting. How are the bigger pouches on each side attached?
MOLLE
Condor makes a bajillion and two (ok, the two might be an exaggeration. ...) chest rigs, and plate carriers. If you want to customize your load to suit your needs there are a couple that are just big MOLLE panels. Most of them can also ditch the shoulder straps, and replace them with a very nice hydration carrier.
Dean Gullberry I checked them out on Amazon. Yes sir they do have lot of stuff.👍
@@bigpoppa6998 their web address is condoroutdoor.com.
You can't buy direct from them, but you'll see the entire line. I've never tried it, but I hear good things about their clothing too.
What I’ve found is those side deep pockets are perfect for Aug 40 rd Mags
This would definitely beat my Army taps chest rig 💀
Six pouches in the front. Two pistol mags, a flashlight, a multi tool, a folding knife, Slim Jims, beef jerky, Cliff Bars???
Hey brutha great video. However I️ believe those “pistol mag” pouches are for 203 grenades
nope, a 40mm round won't fit in there.
As always great video
Actually I use my LBE set from my Army Guard days. My Condor rig is my loaner rig.
I actually have three sets of LBE. Since I did Second World War reenacting for two and a half years I own an M-1 Garand and some WW-2 vintage and reproduction web gear. So with some surplus M-56 and ALICE gear I built a rig using the M-1923 Cartridge Belt as its base. Attached to the belt are an M-1942 First Aid Dressing Pouch, two M-1910 Canteen Covers with canteens and cups, an M-3 Combat Knife, an M-61 Field Pack/ Butt Pack, a set M-56 of long H-Suspenders and on the butt pack I attached an M-56 Universal Ammunition Pouch in which I built a first aid kit and straped a Vietnam vintage rubberized poncho to its bottom. I also built my AR kit using an LC-2 Belt, two LC-2 M-16 magazine pouches, another set of M-56 H-Suspenders, another M-61 Butt Pack with two LC-2 Canteen Covers with canteens and cups and a poncho with liner, a first aid and compass pouch with a tritium lensatic compass and two first aid/ compass pouches with pressure bandages.
The third set uses an LC-2 belt, three M-56 ammunition pouches, a first aid/ compass pouch with lensatic compass and another with a pressure bandage, an M-56 Butt Pack, two ALICE canteen covers with canteens and cups. This like my Modular Chest rig is a loner.
@@d.l.hemmingway3758 you have a lot !. Nice !. Maybe in a perfect world I could lay on my back or belly with that and not get seen but lol in recon it's quite a very hard thing to do man !. Actually they rarely notice you in plain sight sometimes if you are blending in with the environment !. Hence your stuff is very overwhelming" I'd say try a making your presents known act and I'd wager they'd indefinitely be alerted and watching out !. Tell me this" can what you have help in a real life situation where that the Kuku nest isn't their anymore" theirs is only chaos and havoc" would it help you survive in those type of situations because that's a thought worth thinking of !. Not to upset i'm actually thinking about trying to set up myself a similar set of gear man.
Paul, the three kits were set up using gear I had on hand. Most of the sets are already weathered so they're naturally camouflaged. Also I don't wear all the same camouflage or same color in the field. I tend to wear neutral and natural colors mostly earth tones.
Also I did serve, but as a Field Artillery Cannon Crewman then an Armored Vehicle Crewman on M-60 series Tanks and finally a Metal Crafter in the Maintenance Platoon of an Army Guard Engineer Dump Truck Company.
Great presentation! Love it!
Super helpful review!!
Love ur videos but im not a bug out fan if shtf. Cause if it does it will last more than a few days u need to bug in.
A SHTF could be a flood like hurricane where bugging in may not be a good idea aka (hurricane Maria, Katrina and Harvey) IMO its best to be flexable and have both plans
@@alancarter4270 yea i understand i did a video on that. Your location is key if ur a serious prepper
@doubletappinhillbilly i understand i did a video on that. Location is key in prepping. I sugest u move if u live by oceans.
Couldn’t agree more. Bugging out makes no sense to me unless you’re in a city
Ok the buddy gear can help save your life .. Its a grate team starter. But the rifle to a stranger must come with its own risk to reward thought processes . what are the tells a "buddy" gets the trust with the rifle and load out gear?
knowing them in person, training with them, and knowing they are competent would be a great place to start.
I have that chest rig. Used it for a while then ordered the MCR4.
From combat experience in the Battle of Ramadi, i dont like having the pouches stacked like the ones are on the Recon either....get stuck between shtuff while on patrols. (Too bulky)
I thought about just cutting those pistol mags off.
I moved my pistol mags to my belt and put single mag pouches on the new MCR4.
Also...i havent found ANY use for the pouvhes in the back...mags just fall down in em. Lol
As of Oct 2020, Recon Chest Rig is now $45, so makes the Modular Chest Set at $50 a way better value....
Thanks brother
@9:55 going to snap like a dried twig up here in northern Minnesota in winter.
I have one it works really well