Macro vs. Micro Chest Rigs: Thoughts and Opinions
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2022
- In this episode of Administrative Results we take a look chest rigs, more specifically the South African Pattern 83 Battle Jacket, and a Haley Strategic D3CRM Micro chest rig. Now this is a small sample size from each of these respective categories, but they represent the categories themselves. Now keep in mind this is just a Thoughts and opinion piece on this particular topic and must not be treated as gospel. One thing I forgot to mention about the D3CRM is that it does scale up a slick plate carrier nicely and in conjunction with that is much better. Also for Law Enforcement it makes sense as well.
All magazines used are less than 29 rounds.
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Well, for the price of a micro chest rig, you could get:
Two Amazon shotgun shell bandoliers
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I know a green beret who said he'd get tired of lugging around 7 mags (full combat load out) all over Afghanistan so he said he cut it down to 3-5. I know a dude that was in Mogadishu that went on with 17 mags and came out with half a mag. It's all depends on the environment you will be in and your chance for resupply. Being civilians, we should count on there being NO resupply, so let's not get caught with our pants down.
I agree with your afghan friend, I carried 6 20 round mags for my m14 over there. Less is more
ritsu PFP with the wisdom
This was taken from one of Clint Smith, of Thunder Ranch, videos
@@Hakashi57 negative. My dad is the Green Beret in question, his friend is the ranger that was in Mogadishu
As a civilian, the only ways I’ll get resupplied is by scavenging or getting back to base. Assuming I have a base to go to lol. As Mr. Admin says, micro rigs are when you’re not looking for a prolonged engagement with lots of thots. One of the few times a micro rig is feasible would be for patrol officers/swat. Another comment says that you don’t need 2-300 rds when you’re dealing with a few bad guys. The longer it goes on, the cops will show up
I learned from basic economics that macro is the bigger picture compared to micro, the smoller picture. And in my opinion big is better than smol
I got a C in macro and only showed up for the exams
My wife said that bigger isn’t better but she still keeps inviting her boyfriend over
Is it to compensate your pp size or to reflect your pp size?
stonks
Big chimp style
I remember seeing pictures of MACV-SOG guys wearing their load bearing gear along with the Chicom chest rigs in order to carry more ammo and other equipment.
Hell yea those dudes were rocking so much extra ammo. I’ve been looking into their gear since I saw that Jocko SogCast.
That was also partially due to the doctrine and situation at the time of fighting your way out of ambushes by spraying a wall of lead in the direction of the ambush and attacking by firing your gun until the pencil thin barrel lost its heat treatment. They use to use the canteen pouches as ammo pouches, putting like 5 20rnd mags and a 30 in the middle and you would have like 4 canteen pouches like that plus either a bandolier or the coveted chicom. In a more modern practical sense I think that’s a little on the opposite side of the spectrum now. Especially since most people don’t have full auto and aren’t working off counter guerrilla doctrine.
The Rhodesians used the same concept
Shit’s based, if you absolutely need a shit ton of gear that sort of set up works really well. I can load my Mayflower with 6-9 mags and then my Eagle H Harness can hold another 6+, also lots of medical, food, water, and shelter.
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I always look at that hardball road in the background and wonder what passerby must think when they drive by AR in full Rhodesian regalia hip firing an FAL into a berm while wearing a mask.
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I at least get weird looks from the other range goers
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Doing LE in the military, 3 spare M4 mags and a spare M9 mag was the norm for standard non-deployment work days. That being said, I think a micro chest rig is wholly adequate for any civilian just wanting to be prepared for whatever. If you can’t break contact in 120 rounds, I don’t know what to tell you. You can always add a duty belt if you think you need more mags. Granted for me, it fits the niche of “I gotta bug out and carry this huge ass ruck sack of food, water, shelter and ammo for me and my wife, but I at least want a couple of mags on my person ready in case things go full ‘The Road’”.
Everybody likes a micro rig until lunchtime and all you have is a cliff bar and your friends have a skottle, cast iron pan, well seasoned and marinated steaks from costco, brocollini, and a 6 pack of a tasty hefeweizen.
Micro rigs are defiantly not enough alone, they shine when combined with other kit to expand capability. Unfortunately that usually means spending more money.
They do a great job when scaled up with other kit.
While I will agree with you, I must say 7 mags is a bare minimum, and often not enough
Not enough for what? An infantry rifleman? Definitely not. A fat diabetic dude sitting at home? Probably ample.
I have to disagree somewhat. Micro rigs are probably easier to actually use than a macro rig . Whats the saying ? The best gun is the gun you have on you? Same thing applies to your kit. I run a tactical fannypack daily from vertx that has a Benchmade bugout, streamlight flashlight, keys, & a wallet. Only thing not inside the fanny pack is my handgun.
@@TonyOG100 yeah well you could just build out a normal kit because micro rigs are good for active shooter response but not much else. As such, when selecting kit for prolonged gunfights or not civilian stuff, micro rigs are stupid
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Shoot for the stars. Sounds like you’re over qualified
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As a young Marine, I carried 9 mags plus a lot of other chit in Iraq. Now as a SWAT operator, 18 years older, 3 knee surgeries, and my C5&6 fused, I carry 4 mags and a little extra chit.
If I go through 4 AR mags, 4 pistol mags, a flashbang, a interior door charge, breach pen, 2 TQs, combat gauze, and my Skittles inside a house as a cop, things went really sideways.
Swat house clearing is different than a shtf scenario
@@cantremember6794 no chit, Cherlock!
@@alistair8915 then you cant compare you're exspirence from something that's completely different
Micro rigs seem to be a side affect of the change in Law Enforcement response to active shooters. Prior to Columbine there were about zero patrol carbines in use in the US. Post Columbine the thinking of Law Enforcement changed away from SWAT as primary response on an active shooter to Patrol Officers. As such departments had to figure out how to get rifles, and then mags into the hands of Officers who at the time were wearing class A style dress uniforms. The micro rigs became a way for an LEO to quickly grab three or four mags, maybe some medical gear, and head into the fight. This also assumes that in such a scenario literally every Officer in the jurisdiction is heading that way. The likely hood of needing 200 or 300 rounds in a Law Enforcement context is minimal. With changes in attachment technology they later become a great way to create loadouts of specific gear which can be swapped on a plate carrier quickly and as needed. Of course manufacturers can't be profitable on the Law Enforcement/Military market alone so they are pushed to civilians who assume the professionals use them so they must be all that is needed. Forgetting of course in Law Enforcement/Military we seldom operate alone or take on large scale opposition i.e. four or more.
It's also a reaction to the improved sustainment and resupply which the GWOT enabled. You don't really have to carry everything with you if you're flying into an OBJ then flying out. LBE will reemerge with peer conflict as units have to sustain themselves over longer periods of time
Nailed it right on the head. In a typical clusterfuck style active shooter situation you have everyone coming. But, some areas in the country even in specific counties backup from all be side of the county to the other could be 20-30 mins or more. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Robber rigs are for covert surprises.
BALCS or front-back rifle plates under dress shirt, robber rig on top, toss a great coat over. Being able to leverage a nasty surprise of basic armor and 120 rifle rounds on tap is a huge obstacle for the average Western cell-based or lone wolf terrorist (E.g., spree shooters, truck rammers, even VIP kidnappers) trying to do their thing.
You'll have more crap in your vehicle for immediate resupply anyway.
Your comment basically summarizes my thoughts on the two. Micro rig = police/base patrol role, Macro rig = full battle loadout
@@alexwalker2582 yes.
Well done video. Less bullets = losing the gunfight. Ballistic math.
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Lol, this is timely. I've basically abandoned my micros in favor of a British PLCE rig. Base pouch setup can carry twelve 30-round mags
If you ever actually need 12 mags odds are you’re gonna die anyway
@@ViktoriousDead if I ever need 1 mag, odds are I'm gonna die.
What's the scenario in Minecraft where you need more than 4 mags?
@@bass779 the scenario for which we have to say "in minecraft"
BASED. I also have one lol.
I remember seeing someone write that micro rigs were for getting out of danger and macro rigs were for going into danger.
Y’all are crazy paying $175 for a “tactical” fanny pack
But it's "tacitcal "
@@americanmade422one of the most valid rebuttals in the history of history
It’s okay I paid $700 usd for mine 😅
I think the argument is sort of redundant. Anyone going out on "ops", civilians or not, will need to bring hydration and other survival essentials. More magazines and hydration can be easily stored even in a small backpack. With my spiritus chest rig I can store 7 mags. That is more than my plate carriers capability but both are usually equipped with 5 plus 1. I can literally throw 5 mags in a dump pouch or 12 in a backpack. Your chest rig is not the end all for ammunition carrying.
If people are shooting at you having to root through your backpacj to find a mag is not ideal
@@KTheStruggler no but that's what your team is for. most firefights are not that urgent where dipping into your backpack is the end of the world. most machine gunners have to end up digging through their packs for more belts.
I thought this too, surely you can get the convenience of a smaller rig and a backpack with extra ammo and other gear for emergencies. Don't have any experience though, just thr first thing I thought.
"But don't you need 10 rifle mags attached to your body at all times??"
"We as gun guys we always get into the weird tiny minutiae..."
It's called going down the rabbit hole...it applies to firearms, optics and anything else that's cool.
The difference between a micro rig and a full load bearing rig is like the difference between a guy who just wants to be armed enough to fight their way out of a bad situation vs like, say, a vigilante; who's out looking for trouble. Micro rigs were originally popularized by dudes working in scenarios where they weren't expecting trouble, but wanted a quick/compact way to escalate their effectiveness. I like them as a PC placard because your PC is scalable. You can have a low vis armor set up, slap on a micro and you can do what you need. Or have a more comprehensively stacked up PC and the micro is some additional ammo/storage with minimal impact on your profile.
I think people get lost in the weeds of the discussion without really considering every application. Micro's are super convenient to stash away in a vehicle, or a sock drawer or a backpack. They're definitely not my first choice as a stand alone solution if I wanted to go all Red Dawn, obviously. But their effectiveness is only limited by your creativity.
Good points.
Good points. I think security details usually roll light because they’re going to break contact and leave adap
I could see a micro chest rig being extremely useful in deep country backpack hunts. You move you sidearm, extra ammo, and all the stuff you want rapid access to up front where access is easy instead of having to stop your hike to rummage through you pack. No one likes rummaging through a pack.
Based take, once again.......becoming the hero we need. You're spot on, this is for people who are the least likely to see contact in the rear, OR people doing PSD work. To offer some resistance as they break contact and move the boss out of harms way.
This is by far one of the most underrated gun channels on UA-cam. So glad I found this channel.
Airsoft can be a great way of determining what about your rig doesn't work, weather its Micro or Macro. I've seen dudes take a spill and turn their load out into a yard sale. I've always had good experiences with my Hellcat LBV.
Oops, its a Falcon not a hellcat.
I just go outside in full kit when im doing chores lol
This is why I've stuck to my Mayflower UW Chest Rig for the longest time as not only I can attach it to my plate carrier, but I can run it standalone and it holds itself very well.
I feel that micro works for airsoft mainly because the standard mag capacity for a normal airsoft gun is around 150 to 300 bbs
@@jasonbiggums Easier to feel your hits if you're not wearing a big plate carrier too.
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As a very heavy set guy that is out of shape, I'm going for volume of fire because I might as well have ammo for everyone.
But hey, I'm working on it.
Either way, solid video Uncle Admin. Much love everyone.
When you can't run, stand your ground. They never asked why you can't run so just carry alot of ammo and snacks.
I respect it
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Bro I’m like the macvsog guys back in the day, running a ak Smersh with a chicom and a ruck, I live on the Appalachia so I can pack most of my equipment to my four wheeler and roll out.
I would say micro chest rigs are great for those who do not expect on seeing combat, but might need the supplies to engage in a fight.
For example, as a medic, and I use a "micro" chest rig with a dangler, which is enough to hold a lot of medical supplies and yet can hold my pistol, pistol mags, and some rifle mags if I absolutely need it to. I can also carry minimal supplies to support my unit and record information.
Micro chest rigs really shine for people not on the front lines or people who are on the front but don't usually see combat such as medics, recon, or intel. Sometimes having enough mags to suppress/break contact and hide/run is really all you need.
All good points, I do have a few thoughts after running a Gadsden Dynamics minimalist rig (my first and only rig so far, have an AWS belt to compliment it).
My rig holds four mags rather than three, which is a nice bonus. You can easily add a TQ holster. It's very compact and easy to store, which makes it great for quick/spontaneous range days, or if I'm travelling somewhere and plan on going shooting and don't want to pack a whole lot.
It's also extremely easy to conceal, which, depending on your situation/context, could be very important.
I also like that it plays into the "Minuteman" concept: an average dude who can grab his rifle, ammo, maybe a TQ or IFAK and be out the door to respond to a local threat quickly, and then just as quickly return to home/blend in with the crowd in order to escape the Redcoats. I feel like alot of people forget that second part of the Minutemen...they had to make it home to fight another day, and blending in with the populace let them do just that.
Great video, man! It's a convo that has been long overdue 🤙
Micro rigs are what you make of them. For the spiritus rig at least, you can have two rows of three mags, plus adding expander wings to either side gives you four more. With the ability to scale up and scale down, micro rigs will remain dominant in the market as companies work to improve how different do-dads interact with their base model. LBE will reemerge in the coming years due to the changing focus back to peer conflict and the inevitable supply issues that will bring. Units will have to sustain themselves, and LBE will be integral to that. This isn't a one or the other topic, it's a mission set and skill level topic. If you're in a team environment working in urban terrain operating from a centralized location where you return to after every op, you don't need a giant LBE rig. If you're out in the woods for days to weeks on end, you definitely will want LBE.
The way I see it if you need a big load carrier to carry ammo because you think you might get into a gunfight why not bring a plate carrier with a heavy loadout then delegate the micro carrier to a more recce scenario where your not looking for a fight and try to avoid one at all costs but also you have enough ammo to get away in one piece.
The reason I bought a micro rig was to have something to wear with my ruck. You take your ruck with you wherever your going. On the trip you have access to a few rifle mags. Then when you get close to where you want to be, you take off your ruck, put your rig on your PC, and then you have a full loadout.
I haven’t timed anything better in my life than I have with the upload of this video
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On a side note, I’ve been running a chest rig/dangler/flat pack for SAR work and its awesome for a hasty rig and has been really nice to run over cold weather and rain gear.
Now, I am just a fat airsofter so take my ideas with a grain of salt....but along my dumb airsoft skirmishes, I've gone through a couple events where we had to hike 5-6km in full battle rattle and then be expected to shoot each other.
Now, one of those events was a pretty short-lasting hump (3km, 8h, 6 objectives to hit) but in summer, so I went with a PLCE-style chest rig as my only kit, carrying six low-capacity AK mags, a half kilo of spare BBs, first aid kit, radio, pistol, multitools and a 1.1lt canteen...and it cut on my shoulders and weighed on my chest. Same load carried on a tactical/load bearing vest (Italian standard model) was basically like carrying nothing, but then again that vest is pretty cumbersome and makes wearing a belt or a backpack pretty difficult.
So I'd say that a micro rig has reasons to exist, if it's incorporated in a layered kit, wearing a belt and eventually a backpack (large or smol) to extend its capabilities.
Let's not forget the soviets in Afghanistan wore the captured chicoms or issued lifchiks (which are three or four single mag pouches and some grenade pouches thrown in, basically making them proto-micro rigs) to carry ammo, but relegated the bulk of additional ammo or subsistence load to the belt and/or backpacks
I do love running my pattern '83 vest with my Galil. Its a very busy vest. Makes me love my Tactical Tailor vest even more.
I don't think there is a VS.
Different tools for different situations.
Micro rigs are great in conjunction with other kit or as an emergency rig. They're easy to consel and put on quickly.
If you want the opposite of all that, then go with something bigger and overt
Im rocking the latest high speed, super slick operator rig, it’s just a pair of cargo pants
Is it safe to assume you were a marine?
I saw a guy one time kitted upchest rig combat knife , 8-10 magazines and a dump pouch, cat kit , radio , chest plate, back plates. He was rolling around on the ground army crawling down the shooting line , it was hilarious but man was he givin er……
Unless there’s no one there…..then let the larp Begin. Just use a 75-100 round drum and you never have to reload. Ut I can’t afford ammo so I throw rocks and magazines instead . I keep a first aid in my vehicle or wheeler or boat or UTV. And it’s got baby wipes because when I start ferociously masterbaiting with CLP…... the burns I get are painful. Turns my shit into a bloody stump. There’s ointments in there. Little ibuprofen and ointment makes the chronic masturbation even easier. However I wear a balaclava , ….. but upside down with my legs through the eye holes and my shit through the mouth hole. It strikes fear into the hearts of my enemies. One wrong word, one wrong glance, and those addias pants I wear , are tear off. Then comes what I refer to as MIL MI-24 . Others call it a helicopter. The real weapon of mass destruction. hey ladies have u had a UTI lately? No?!? YOU WANT ONE? . The upside down Balaklava never gets washed………… ever.
Since we are all here airing grievances. I’d like to take this moment to complain about the price of 83 battle jackets.
They’ve been going up too much. Kinda ridiculous
Blame fury road cosplayers drying up surplus and chopping up the ones they buy
Like a Rolex
I’m old enough to remember them being $40 back in 2006
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First time watching this guys videos. Already a fan!
If I had to take a shot every time you said ‘kit’, I’d be smashed at 0800CST.
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We use micro rigs but it's mission specific. Like EP or close Protection. Quick on and some rigs can be hidden under your coat. We also utilize chest rigs, off body bags, plate carriers and so on. It's a great kit option.
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Loved the vid! My no-brained use of a micro rig is for SAR work, keeps the radio/nav tools/snacks/headlamp in a convenient spot, and many of my teammates also carry a .45/10mm there for critter control.
I do keep a micro chest rig in my car along with the car gun, but I try to be realistic as to what it’s for and what it’s not for. For me, it’s there for a “hey, just saw someone with a gun run into that school/church/whatever”, or at work (rural EMS) for that active shooter where all the LEOs are going to be stopping the threat, and if we want to go in and start rescue task force stuff we’re going to have to provide our own security while we’re applying TQs and dragging folks out. Definitely not a “fits all fights” tool.
I'm currently looking for a chest rig! Exactly for the same reason! What do you use?
For SAR, I use a Conterra Tool Chest with some DIY customization. For the “holy sh*t” application, a Tactical Tailor micro chest rig….I think 8x3 MOLLE panel, nothing fancy.
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Have a like simply for rocking a M83 battle jacket. Always nice to see them around. On the micro chest rig topic, they might be useful for bodyguards or other plainclothes guys operating out of vehicles, but even then I think I'd prefer a low-profile plate carrier. They really are intended for no-threat environments.
It’s also about the other stuff you need to carry. It’s hard to put two radios, spare batteries, binoculars, nvg, water, rations, e&e kit, extra ammo for heavy weapons all into the micro rig or plate carrier. Big load carrying vests are still needed even if the guys think it’s not cool. I still have modified SADF vest for this purpose. You can throw it over the JPC if needed and be both protected and carry all comfortly.
Mad how fast this channel has grown in the past months
Good stuff! My issue with the micro setups is for me, if I need a gun, there’s probably also a bunch of other gear I want. I hike with a backpack and a pistol on my belt, with a rifle and plate carrier for when the North Korean ninjas invade.
You make a lot of good points and have a lot of good info. Personally I own both types of chest rigs and see value in both. For work I use micro chest rigs because they interface with my plate carrier and are modular. I can switch from running a rifle to running a shotgun with a couple clips and some velcro which is incredibly handy if my task happens to change during training or on a call-out. I acknowledge the shortcomings of the micro chest rigs, but my unit also does not get in intense firefights due to the nature of our work and we all have to have duty belts with other supplies in addition to our armor which makes up for some of the limited space on the chest rig.
I have the widest smile when I watch your videos on the toilet and you address that. Feels personal…
Good work - informative and entertaining.
I feel like for a civilian, the micro rigs are great either standalone or attached to a carrier that lives in your car/truck, and it'll be 'enough' for any sort of situation you might find yourself in on a day-to-day basis - something that you're gonna be gtfo'ing asap. Anything that's your proper LARPing/combat setup, yeah, 3-4 spare mags is borderline hilariously bad.
Even if shit got crazy, I find the idea of of an engagement being so hard fast and crazy that a person as a civilian of varying levels of training is unable to make do with 4+1 mags and not have some breathing room to top them off from extra carried loose or strippered ammo. Because at that point, the realistic expectations of us plebs surviving that long enters into it. Push come to shove, there's still adding a mag or two on belt or pants or in a bag. Late 30's, I dont pretend to be as fit as 18, and I know my more fully larperator plate carrier with 7 mags + stuff is just comical to get around indoors and imagine going prone or anything in. But really in summary, what is the use case, what are your logistics. Kenosha mob? I'd take the mobility, apocalypses day to day running into a few hostile people? Again probably lighter. Now some day the chinese invade and we have organized militias fighting back force on force, then use roll heavy, but even then if it was that bad I'd bet you'd be more guerilla.
For what it's worth, I use a micro rig for classes and hunting. Bought an SOE many years ago and it's been amazing for what I use it for. Served but never made it down range so I can't address that personally but most of the guys I knew who did all ran different rigs based on their specific needs at the time. As far as a full kit goes I think the most important part would be modularity.
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I loved how you use the ham radio like it was a cell phone
How you have your micro set up is probably one of the best uses.
For my different needs, I have a plate carrier for the basics like standard ammo load, med kit, radio, dagger and all that. I also have a MOLLE mesh load bearing vest with a web belt with the intention to load up all my extended duration gear on the lower half and wear the vest under the plate carrier.
I almost crapped myself when the toilette comment was made! Then I remembered I was on the toilette - lucky me! Nice content 👏
Actually catching me on the toilet this time. You’re normally prime time UA-cam for me my guy. Eating my food, laying in bed before I go to sleep, sitting in my truck with my kids while my wife goes into target, real prime time stuff
I sell ladies at the bar on 'micro' being superior all the time. It's worked before. Swearsies
Glad you talked about gear my friend
I can comfortably fit 16 AR-15 mags in my pattern 83. I do not plan on running out of ammo
As long as you're training with that weight I don't see an issue. 16 mags is a lot though when you need food, water, and anything else you may need
You had me at "I do not plan on running"
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Traveling cross country with my wife during widespread """peaceful roadblocks and molotov cocktailings""", I had my body armor loaded with 4 mags, 1 loaded in a pistol AR, with a bandolier of 4 AK mags in the mounted backpack and one in the AK.
Do tell 👀
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My micro chest rig was set up to hold six mags right out of the package. I could change the first or second row out if I wanted something else but with the pouch and tourniquet loops I really didn't see a need.
Missed this on release, but still badass none the less.
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“Pieces of kit” in America = gun shit
Love it
Damnit I love this country
Speak for yourself I'm English, to veterans kit is gun stuff.
@@darkchild130 I bet my gun stuff is cooler than yours tho 🇺🇸
@@andrewkeeton3627 I was in the infantry for 15 years bud, I don’t really care how cool your gun stuff is.
there's micro, and then there's that bandolier thing for nearly $200. I get it, they're cool
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I gotta micro rig for a general purpose, i got it set up for a get home rig currently. Like admin said they are great for outdoor activities like hiking and camping.
I savor my morning coffee as I observe the opinions of the balaclava
I have a micro chest rig and I have that because the only time I would ever really need one in the current national level climate, is it there's a small engagement and it's nice to be able to just throw something where I can keep a few extra mags in a bag in my car. I feel like it's I really solid thing for most normal civilian people. Recognizing its limitations of course
I'm at about 3:45 and just realized something - if I'm going to be needing a shitton of ammo, I'm probably going to want bodyarmor. That kinda detracts from the usefulness of macro rigs.
I just bought a spiritus chest rig 😂 so amazing timing with the video 🤙
My chest rig is micro, but identifies as macro.
I miss my old 83 but I've actually been using a smersh ak loadout for a about a year now and honestly, I gotta say its a sweet piece of kit.
The heavy hip and suspenders setup really goes hard.
Micros are fine if you utilize your prison wallet. The human body has answers for most of life's problems. Plus its ultimate in concealment to maintain the element of surprise.
I use a micro because I have it kitted out to put on over a Slickster in order to flee my city (Portland). Early last year my apartment building was nearly set on fire.
That’s a good use of it. Micro rigs are best for most individual self-defense oriented situations the average person will find themselves in. Best for when you want to avoid confrontation or don’t expect a fight but just want to have the security in case things get bad.
What might be a viable option is using a micro chest rig for the carrying of utilitarian items, then getting a bandolier that hold a crap ton of magazines. Both are items that are small and allow for quick movements, might be something that could be a good inbetween for a micro and macro chest rig. Only downside is no body armor.
Think it depends if you are rocking a battle belt as well. Otherwise that SADF M83 vest is awesome with some armour. Had one for Air-soft and it was great so obviously I have a lot of flat range experience with it.
I like scalability. I'm not a PC or plates guy, so my kit consists of a gadsden dynamics partisan rig, an LBV and an older German army web gear system. The chest rig is ONLY 4 very slim mag pouches, the LBV is set up for a combat load, mag pouches, IFAK, sustainment pouch, admin pouch etc. I wear a belt for pistol and pistol mag pouches but I prefer to take that off for long movements. Finally the web gear is set up with a 2 liter knapsack that wouldve been standard issue, as well as 6 double stack mag pouches. It's for going on a longer range 2-3 day type movement. Allows me to carry enough ammo to get out of anything, and some extra food and water, without having to carry a pack.
When we got sent to the sandbox, we had guys able to buy their own armor due to not having enough to go around. I didn't even get a full combat loadout. By the time I left I had around 10-12 mags, and a ton of belts on the truck. When we were out doing recon stuff, I definitely prefer to stay light. BUT we don't know when things are going to go sideways - just because you don't expect a bigger fight doesn't mean you aren't going to get it. The side that wins is the one that puts the most rounds down range accurately the fastest... which is hard to do when you run dry on ammo.
The moment he started talking about the "speed and mobility" guy the image popped into my head 😂
As a russophile, I have sso smersh setup for non-permissive environments, but I also have sso wagner 'micro-rig' with a couple extra mag-pouches molle'd on to it. 8 mags plus buttpouch on smersh and 6 mags plus two pistol mags on wagner. I'd say the wagner with 6 pouches is about the same size as micro-rigs you're showing, but more capability.
I find my personal kit sitting with gear from 40-50 years ago with the Rhodie Brushstroke, M81 Woodland BDU, and ALICE Gear. Can't complain having 7 mags, however this is for now airsoft, once I'm of age it'll be SHTF/Recce kit.
I was a battle bra guy when vehicle mounted 03-13. 8x 5.56 mags, 2 canteens, utility pouch, camelback maybe, belt with pistol and pistol mags and knife.
Foot patrol, full vest, couple of years was running the SADF vest in Auscam or issued belt kit with LBV with the ammo pouches built in. Would allow me to carry a lot of ammo and water, military working dog handler so carried 4 canteens on my belt plus pack or camelback.
I went back to a micro rig after shifting some stuff around. Can still carry 6 mags on the main rig, med in a drop down, radio, and smoke/bang, while still having room for admin and not including anything i have on my belt, carrier, backpack, etc.
Good comparison. Do you get mountain lions out there or are they chupacabra?
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@@AdministrativeResults definitely running an 83 in that fight.
Have one of each of you can, I have a TAPs and a spiritus MK4. I typically run the MK4 with more mags on my belt and vest
My kit in tarkov was the spiritus systems bank robber micro rig and cheeki breeki mask, three mags and a prayer… I did fine 63% of the time!
I literally AM on the toilet right now, HOW DOES HE KNOWWWW!!! and this vid is 3 months old. Now what? He can see in to the future?!!!
I love when admin know I'm taking a shit.
1:15 he’s in the walls HE,S IN THE GODDAMN WALLS