The Truth About Catfish Rods

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  • Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
  • Discussion of the Catfish rod market today
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  • @venturesyndicate
    @venturesyndicate Рік тому +12

    After 1 hour of listing to my favorite youtuber about rods I summed it up for you guys! Use wtf you want. All rods catch big fish! Saved everyone 1 hour😉

    • @SMaamri78
      @SMaamri78 7 місяців тому

      Thanks!

    • @dboyMMA7100
      @dboyMMA7100 5 місяців тому

      Exactly

    • @MrPhoenix1800
      @MrPhoenix1800 2 місяці тому +1

      That’s not what I got from the video. Don’t think you were Listening not trying to be mean.

    • @venturesyndicate
      @venturesyndicate 2 місяці тому +1

      @@MrPhoenix1800 I've watched Dave for 8 years. I know what he's saying. Fish with what you please and have fun🤟

    • @MrPhoenix1800
      @MrPhoenix1800 2 місяці тому +1

      @@venturesyndicate I like diving into why I missed a fish, he dove into why the rod may be causing you to lose fish, depends on the rod action/power and what kind of rigs or hook or size of fish. So maybe one rod with one rig would cause you to lose a lot more fish then a rod that is faster and more stiff. That was my take on the video.

  • @kodyhouse8432
    @kodyhouse8432 Рік тому +12

    I’ve been beating the hell out of my mad katz rods for about a year now
    And they are holding up great, some have got a few scrapes and scratches but I’m very tough on my gear. Despite being drug through the woods and sand and bounced around in the back of the truck, they still look very sexy as well. Customer service has been great, and I won two free ones in the big fish contest. The reason they are the most popular is the way they engage their customer base, they make an effort to make us little guys feel like big shots. There’s no substitute for that. I’m am a katz customer for life. Thanks for making an unbiased video and keeping it real like always Dave! That’s why this channel will always be one of my favorites, Catfish Dave always keeps it real.

    • @Sneeezzyy
      @Sneeezzyy 5 місяців тому

      Madkatz rods are always out of stock now whisker seeker rods are where it’s at

  • @jameswise5003
    @jameswise5003 Рік тому +48

    When I was a kid my dad said, "Son, sometimes fishing lures are made to catch fisherman." Total life hack!

    • @stubby8663
      @stubby8663 Рік тому +4

      Same thing as my Dad told me "Well it caught the Fisherman, but we've yet to see it catch a Fish" I don't remember if I ever did catch anything on that rubber frog lol.

  • @collincolston8443
    @collincolston8443 Рік тому +41

    I thought you were going to say you just need 3 rods and that leaves you plenty of money for cheese.

  • @931tow
    @931tow Рік тому +13

    I confess I am attracted to the colored rods but it doesn't influence my decision to watch your videos.
    I know those rods fade quickly.
    I'm happy with my Berkeley Big Game Rods from Walmart for $29. Been using them for 2 years now on Watts Barr with no problem.
    Dave does need to get a boat seat endorsement deal 😂

  • @charlesschillinsky102
    @charlesschillinsky102 Рік тому +7

    Great discussion Dave! I have numerous rods that predate graphite. They are glass but they are still standing up to heaving use.

  • @pdm1289
    @pdm1289 Рік тому +7

    Great content that conveys information fisherman need to catch more catfish. Thanks Dave!

  • @flyingfisherman9076
    @flyingfisherman9076 Рік тому +13

    Another great video Dave! Great minds think alike. I'm not a groupie and my boat isn't the runway for a fashion show. My Ugly Stik Tigers aren't pretty and they are probably the furthest from what the general catfish community would specify as a "Catfish Rod," but here in Eastern Virginia many of the experienced charter captains on the James wouldn't have any other rod. My Tigers just keep working and doing what I need. I only hope they keep making them because as a company, their other models seem more aligned with the Walmart market. The Tiger models are still out there because they work, and continue to sell without all the gimmicks and shortcuts. The investment they made in this rod long ago is making them great profits.

  • @jeffchaffee1235
    @jeffchaffee1235 Рік тому +3

    That’s right I don’t use a pretty rod but I do watch the Catfish Dave show. Thank you for your time on the water

  • @lutherprince9304
    @lutherprince9304 Рік тому +4

    Great information Dave! No brag just facts!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @johnolive3377
    @johnolive3377 Рік тому +1

    Another no BS show and I like it. Keep it going from the guy in Texas. Thanks for the information.

  • @CH-xo8ss
    @CH-xo8ss Рік тому +4

    You heard it here @ berkleyfishing, bring back the E Cat and throw a little fluorescent orange or Florescent yellow thread on the guides and don’t change anything else!! Thanks Dave for the honest reviews!!

  • @bobbydennis6231
    @bobbydennis6231 Рік тому +2

    Hey Dave, Rods are in the eye of the beholder. In my opinion. I'm not a brand specific guy. I do use rods that fit my budget. And they produce fish of all sizes. From dinks to above average fish. Length, weight, backbone, tackle capacity, and sensitivity all come into my decision when making a rod purchase. With that being slaid. Berkley Big game medium heavy 7' is my go to rod. New viewer to your channel. I enjoy your content. Keep it up .

  • @strawberryjam6174
    @strawberryjam6174 Рік тому +5

    Just watched and enjoyed your video. I enjoy your no BS reviews. Im sure you know much more about this than I ever will but I use B&M Silver Cat Elite Rods which are perfect for my needs and size fish I catch. I use the lite and MH which are E-glass composite. But they make one called the Silver Cat Elite Heavy that is E-glass and rated for 25-60 line and 2-16oz lures that might be similar to the Berkeley E Cat you like but biggest difference is they are colored and “ pretty “!!!

  • @lelandshanks3590
    @lelandshanks3590 Рік тому +3

    Alot of good points Dave, I build my own and have for 42 years. The bid boys don't spine the blanks it makes all the difference in performance.

  • @davidgrochmal6023
    @davidgrochmal6023 5 місяців тому +1

    I have 4 rods from the 60s that are solid fiberglass that I refinished all over again and these rods have a solid rock maple or hickory wooden handles too me these are the best rods ever made !!!!! Now they look fantastic just like new !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @MAGAEATSBOOGERS1
    @MAGAEATSBOOGERS1 Рік тому +3

    For me the OLD School Red Cork at the end of his page is a great looking rod, 7'6 thanks for the heads up.

  • @chadbrunett264
    @chadbrunett264 Рік тому +1

    You just educated me on the difference type of rods. I always wonder the difference between the glass and carbon fiber. Thanks Dave you are my favorite when it comes to catfishing!!

  • @doubleccatfishing
    @doubleccatfishing Рік тому

    Hands down best video you ever put out! Nothing but truths and a good history of past 7-8 years

  • @scottmorrison1788
    @scottmorrison1788 Рік тому +2

    Great video Dave, very informative that I actually learned something about catfish rods. Really enjoy your work, keep it going.

  • @marylikens6847
    @marylikens6847 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for helping get me into catfishing.. been fishing since I could walk but am just now getting into cats at age 37. Haven’t caught anything yet, but I got my stuff on its way. Won’t be long now until I can try out my new tangling with catfish 7’6 ext . Grubbs recommended these rods. Feels light and strong but doesn’t look that flashy

  • @danieljenkins6282
    @danieljenkins6282 Рік тому +4

    Loved the video Dave. Definitely no BS stuff in what you say about rods. I would love to see you start a series on cheap rods, just regular 30 40 50 dollar rods from bass pro, walmart, academy, dicks places like that. Just to see what you could do with rods like that for fisherman just pounding the bank once or twice a month. Just an idea. Really appreciate the videos, keep catching em

  • @tammykifer5176
    @tammykifer5176 Рік тому +1

    As always good information I take care of my stuff so it lasts longer and I have my favorite 🎣 pole

  • @markdavis1363
    @markdavis1363 Рік тому +1

    Great video about catfish rods,very educational and informative. I'm just the weekend angler and I fish the paylakes and the Ohio river banks. I love my ugly stick bbw rods and my Shakespeare tidewater reels. Lol I'm a poor boy,but I do enjoy the tackle I can afford and I do land a 40lb every now and then. Catfish Dave,your one of my idols in fishing,lol.

  • @user-xm3ij4jo5g
    @user-xm3ij4jo5g Рік тому +1

    Thank you for good explanations. I always want to know the why behind whatever it is you're doing and/or using.

  • @dennisembry3161
    @dennisembry3161 Рік тому

    One of your best videos explaining Rods

  • @OhioRiverFisherman
    @OhioRiverFisherman Рік тому +2

    I have several older ecat rods and theyre wonderful!!! I also found some awesome ugly stick rods that ive fished with for 4 years now. And ive caught some hawgs on em and they still look brand new!!

    • @rondoofnightmare775
      @rondoofnightmare775 Рік тому

      I use ugly stick, madkatz, and fire stick. Out of the 3 I prefer the ugly stick. Madkatz is actually a decent rod too.

  • @contagiouslyfit1021
    @contagiouslyfit1021 Рік тому

    I knew before long I'd get a planer board explanation. Comments get lost. You answered me either way. Thanks Dave

  • @camojoe83
    @camojoe83 3 місяці тому +1

    Don't overthink it. I pick up fish the size of my dogs with 50 year old rods that I bought for 20 bucks. Only shortcoming they have is the eyes being grooved by braid sometimes, and as it happens you just send that cheap rod in for new eyes and it's good for another 50 years with whatever you string it with. Still going to be way cheaper than most of these sticks the toobers shake at cats even with a custom set of guides.

  • @jeffmartin9033
    @jeffmartin9033 Рік тому +1

    Thank you making a educational video, much appreciated!

  • @RealMakoi
    @RealMakoi Рік тому +2

    Very good market analysis, and lessons in practical use. But, I think you overlooked one important aspect of fishing rods that I have made a habit of. Most guys are only going to go fishing with 2 or 4 rods, and only use one at a time. But, 2 or 4 rods aren’t really enough for all the types of fish, and fishing you’re gonna do. I buy Ugly Stik rods. There’s plenty of variety in strength. I probably have 15 Ugly Stiks. The most important part is that they’re all the same color. And, that’s the part you forgot to mention. Your wife is going to go for years thinking that you’ve only got 2 or 4 rods!

  • @madtownangler
    @madtownangler Рік тому +2

    Those grippy material rod handles are easy to replace. Just cut it to length and heat up and it shrinks. I use to use a stove top to do it.

  • @michaelkrugman2459
    @michaelkrugman2459 Рік тому +1

    Great video Dave!! I'm really glad you did this topic,and gave your true opinion and points of these rods. I often wondered about some of these brands and how good they actually are. Thanks again and keep up the great videos.

  • @johnmeyer6537
    @johnmeyer6537 Рік тому +2

    how many people remember when ugly stix where guarantied for life. I have one purchased in the late 70s that still catching giants. 65lbs pb

  • @chriskeenumhighhopesoutdoors
    @chriskeenumhighhopesoutdoors 6 місяців тому

    Good to see you back!!! Hope you have a great year👍

  • @blueridgeboy6791
    @blueridgeboy6791 Рік тому +1

    Man I'm so glad I watched this video because for the last few weeks I've been going down the rabbit hole over some new fishing rods and catfish Dave sir you nailed it on the head. Thankyou so much. I'm after a fish of a lifetime.i had a hookup/miss two weekends ago about 330 am on a 9 inch rock bass. Yes it still hurts because it actually hit an I missed it twice on a cheap (china)glass rod. Never again for me. I'm way to passionate about it, I've always wanted to catch a big one an I'm not f**king around. I've always said to many rods was a bad thing. I've always sad when I was solo fishing 4 was enough. But I only have 3 c3s with me at a time. Definitely curious and interested in the chasing cat rods. Simply because if I ever get the chance at even a decent 40/50 lb fish let alone a monster I don't wonna screw around an loose it. Thankyou for your video.

  • @benskai2475akurfishing
    @benskai2475akurfishing 8 місяців тому

    Greetings coming from Indonesia Greetings fellow anglers and Thank you senior for the excellent viso and educating us about fishing equipment, namely jorang as the main equipment for anglers

  • @davefisher5196
    @davefisher5196 Рік тому +3

    My buddy bout some M/H hellcats n returned them as they were more like a light/ medium rod
    I like the TWC M/H. Glad I caught the 92lb blue on it. Great back bone but not great for videos on smaller fish.

    • @tmac6593
      @tmac6593 10 місяців тому

      Try their whip series. They are nice for smaller fish. But still has plenty backbone for bigger fish

  • @countryfriedfishing
    @countryfriedfishing Рік тому +1

    Sixgill Fishing has a Glass/Carbon Catfish rod at $90+$10 shipping. The Carbon is Japanese Toray Carbon.Thats stuffs pretty tough. While I havnt caught as big as Dave I only use their bass rods but I use them for everything. Catfish,Bass,Bowfin,Bream,,,,everything. My biggest cat is a 25-30 pound blue,”scale broke at 30 so I say 25-30”, on a MH and it handled it. Pulled it out of the current and assisted the net on the lift.

  • @tykit9230
    @tykit9230 Рік тому

    Thanks for the honest assessment Catfish Dave. I'm a bank fisherman in Dinkville, Ugly Sticks are fine by me

  • @timothykarnes7945
    @timothykarnes7945 7 місяців тому

    Ugly stick tiger rod has held up very well over the years . fantastic rod as well.. thanks for sharing about rods dave...

  • @josephcain8643
    @josephcain8643 Рік тому

    I love how you teach as you catch

  • @robbiesmith9786
    @robbiesmith9786 Рік тому +1

    I got a few mad katz love them I have few b&M ROD love them I have okuma battle cat love it but any white rod or any rod that I can see at night is my favorite mad katz fill good in the hand and has good hook ups and u can see them in the dark

  • @yazooyellowcats1403
    @yazooyellowcats1403 Рік тому

    I have had great success with medium heavy action B'n'M rods, Flathead Fever Tackle circle hooks and mono line. The softer tip has enough give for fish not to feel resistance at initial bite to fully take the bait. The Flathead Fever Tackle circle hooks do a great job of hooking and fish that fully takes the bait with only having to reel down to put full tension on the line whether I am anchored, dragging baits, or suspend fishing.

  • @fredziffel3443
    @fredziffel3443 Рік тому +3

    You talked me into buying E-cats a couple of years back... they're still in the shed until I wear out my uglystiks. Looks like I may never use the ecats.😅😂

  • @kennethwatson4489
    @kennethwatson4489 Рік тому +3

    I know you were not impressed with the meat hunter rod you had. But the 9 foot 1 piece rods they make are such a sweet spot from long casts to good hook sets. I have them from 6 to 16 feet. And I know there are other rods. But I have tried everything imaginable in 45 years of fishing, and the meat hunters are consistent. TOUGH all glass rods. I don't work for them either. I just love them. Casting or spinning. They have been great

  • @robertkreachbaum4546
    @robertkreachbaum4546 Рік тому

    Loved your video Dave. Thanks for sharing your sharing your thoughts and insights regarding the various catfish rods out on the market today.

  • @robertwinslow391
    @robertwinslow391 Рік тому

    This is a great video, very educational. Thanks Dave.

  • @jackkeeble9272
    @jackkeeble9272 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for sharing Dave, love your channel man

  • @michaelglenn8598
    @michaelglenn8598 Рік тому

    I like RGFM motto match tackle to what you are reasonably gonna catch. Makes each catch a way better experience

  • @stevenmorelli
    @stevenmorelli Рік тому +1

    Dave, You need your own "Reality Show"!! You would do well with it! Keep up the good work and keep making great videos. Your videos are informative and amusing. You're a natural in front of the Camera. You will need to write a script send it to the Writers Gould get your copy write and confirmation than you can approach cable channels with your show idea TLC or Animal Planet might be your best bet,

  • @dennisdaly1957
    @dennisdaly1957 Рік тому

    WOW....I never thought of it that way. Thank you for all the info and by the way, love your videos. Great content and very informative. Thank you again for your effort.

  • @JeffinLowerAlabama
    @JeffinLowerAlabama Рік тому

    Dave great video. Have found that keeping your hooks sharp really improves hook ups. Jeff in LA USA

  • @thomasallen3030
    @thomasallen3030 Рік тому

    Good info thanks for taking the time to try and teach us. Good video!

  • @tomblount5635
    @tomblount5635 Рік тому

    Luv your vlogs, straight forward and knowledge! Txs 🎉🎉

  • @Nathan-gj6ic
    @Nathan-gj6ic Рік тому

    Wow I never knew there was so many differences between fishing rods thanks for letting me know

  • @scottkissinger5763
    @scottkissinger5763 Рік тому

    Great content thx for all your hard work Dave tight lines

  • @marcsmith1413
    @marcsmith1413 Рік тому +1

    Was watching this video got down to the 57.34 mark and bam hooked into and landed a 40.84lb flathead on my bass pro shop cat buster medium to heavy action all white 110 dollar rod rod 😉

  • @trevorv5648
    @trevorv5648 Рік тому

    Yes!! Loved the long form vid.

  • @dboyMMA7100
    @dboyMMA7100 5 місяців тому

    You change rods almost every video. Still enjoy watching. Lmao

  • @DillonVolts
    @DillonVolts Рік тому

    Thank you for blessing me with an hour long video Dave 😅

  • @terrycrosby9149
    @terrycrosby9149 Рік тому

    Enjoyed the content you're rite you can fish on about any fishing combo and yes some are definitely better than others, I've never worried about pretty just performance.

  • @Leo-vf3py
    @Leo-vf3py Рік тому

    Great show keep up the good work be safe my friends God bless all

  • @russhayes4882
    @russhayes4882 Рік тому

    What a great video Dave and very informative !

  • @buckeyecatfishing622
    @buckeyecatfishing622 Рік тому

    I put the heat shrink wraps on all my cork handle rods. The cork handles start breaking down after use in the rod holders.

  • @EastTennKats
    @EastTennKats Рік тому

    Dales hooks are hands down the best hooks on the market. Only hooks I use. 10/12 and the hook-up ratio is hands down the best of all of em

  • @davidworthy3352
    @davidworthy3352 Рік тому

    Very informative video thanks Dave

  • @nicklong2733
    @nicklong2733 Рік тому +1

    Great info Dave 👍

  • @garybeard9071
    @garybeard9071 Рік тому +2

    Dave, great tutorial.

  • @Xofroggy
    @Xofroggy Рік тому

    I use an old berkley Big Game rod, and a couple of the new built Big Game Rods

  • @Mike_Baldwin
    @Mike_Baldwin Рік тому

    Came for the Catfish Dave video ~ Got a Roland Martin lesson on fishing rods.

  • @patcolston2901
    @patcolston2901 Рік тому

    Great video Dave !!! Very informative

  • @IEchuckie
    @IEchuckie Рік тому

    You're almost to 90k. Congratulations

  • @davidnickle9831
    @davidnickle9831 Рік тому

    Thanks for the Great Info Dave 🐬

  • @Blb51
    @Blb51 Рік тому

    The surge rods i use look just like those ecats, looks like the action performs like it also.

  • @olhippie1
    @olhippie1 Рік тому

    Seems like the ugly stick "Big Water" ought to be right up your alley Dave ! It has backbone for big fish but has a fast enough tip section to give cushion to a fish's surge to prevent hook tear out. I think the Big Water is a glass & carbon fiber combination , but am not sure on that.

  • @pisgahwatershed7287
    @pisgahwatershed7287 Рік тому +1

    Circle hooks a set up to turn towards the sides of the fishes mouth if the point turn that way good if the fish swims in the preferred direction but if not it can and will cause a miss this is why I fish J hooks problem solved with braided line I can penetrate the cartridge and bone on a fish !

  • @kp8828
    @kp8828 Рік тому

    Great video as always.. I’m running Whisker Seeker and Ugly Stick Catfish Special on my boat, and for bank fishing .. no complaints. I think hooks and line are more important.

    • @HmngVBallChnnL
      @HmngVBallChnnL Рік тому

      Hi KP,
      What do you think of the whisker seeker? I was looking at their website and was debating.

    • @kp8828
      @kp8828 Рік тому

      @@HmngVBallChnnL I’m 100% satisfied with everything Whisker Seeker.. I have 4 GFX rods.. 2 are the 9’6” and 2 7’6”, Heavy and Med Heavy. They’re way impressive for the price point.. not to mention I also use their hooks, terminal tackle , and line .. all really good stuff

    • @kp8828
      @kp8828 6 місяців тому

      200% agree .. Whisker Seeker all the way.. the rest is pure hype. It’s not like you’re jigging a leadhead fishing walleye .. catfish eat a bait like they mean it..200 dollar catfish rod is a joke

  • @stumpbumpers
    @stumpbumpers 6 місяців тому

    I use saltwater rods because I think they are more bang for the buck without all the hype. I can buy some really cheap boat rods that out perform expensive “catfish” rods. I’ve always laughed at the “catfish” market because in comparison to the “saltwater” market, they are light years behind. I still have some Diawa “Beefstick” rods from the late 90’s. I bought them for $30 each. They run about $50 each today. But I like Tica in the same price range for carbon. Anyway, the reels are the real investment in my opinion. Those too are saltwater for me, for the same reasons and they are serviceable. I guess growing up on the coast helps, because I have surf fished since I was a young and I have a collection of old Penn, Abu Garcia, Mitchell, etc. The biggest, hardest fighting fish are in the oceans. So, if you want long lasting, better quality for your money, saltwater gear is where it’s at IMHO.

  • @Joe-lu7nj
    @Joe-lu7nj Рік тому +1

    I use ProAnglertackle catfish rods ,I have for years and years .Not sure why nobody ever reviews them . Maybe they are just too old . I have used Tica Graphite jigging rods for catfish and loved those ,but I bank fish so those are not around anymore lol .

  • @Nwbama
    @Nwbama Рік тому +1

    Like your content Dave!

  • @tonyjones9715
    @tonyjones9715 Рік тому

    Thanks Dave👍

  • @ethanevink4255
    @ethanevink4255 Рік тому

    Good honest review Dave

  • @samshearer6955
    @samshearer6955 Рік тому

    Another good video, I almost skipped it when I saw the length though. You didn’t mention two pieces versus single piece rods?

  • @outdoorsforachange
    @outdoorsforachange Рік тому

    I used to chuckle at Dave's overalls. Then, I started doing my own UA-cam videos. I had to throw clips out that had plumbers crack on full display. Now, others can chuckle at me in my overalls.

  • @Lexiisstrange
    @Lexiisstrange Рік тому

    Love the channel and the info. Keep waiting to hear the word pilgrim worked into normal speech.

  • @paulwylie989
    @paulwylie989 Рік тому

    Informative and entertaining CD

  • @tdeaux
    @tdeaux Рік тому +3

    Put that hat back on, Dave. You need to protect from skin cancer.

  • @Smugginz
    @Smugginz Рік тому

    Man you are so right on. I had a ugly stik lite that was all glass and I found it to be superior. If neon appeals to you consider that we use bright colors to catch dumb lurking fish...

  • @bethunelm
    @bethunelm Рік тому

    Yep, Dave, they got me. Have the orange one that you have. I also have a Mad Katz Venom rod.😂😂😂

  • @CrimeVid
    @CrimeVid Рік тому

    Watching this from the UK, I assume that these are hollow glass blanks, they look similar to sea fishing rods to me. I still have some affection for cheap solid glass rods from forty- fifty years ago, you know you are never going to break them. The only time I care about the weight of a rod is if I am going to hold it all day !

  • @roypeavy3542
    @roypeavy3542 Рік тому

    Great video 👍 thanks for sharing.

  • @what1864
    @what1864 Рік тому +1

    Eagle Claw Ozark Snaggin Rod Casting Rod are cheap and powerful 40-80lb line pool cues with eyelets .....

  • @anthonysmith3741
    @anthonysmith3741 Рік тому

    Hey Dave how about some of your old school night videos. You caught a lot of big fish . I really.enjoyed those

  • @flyingfisherman9076
    @flyingfisherman9076 9 місяців тому

    Listening to this channel will catch you fish!

  • @staceygandy2009
    @staceygandy2009 Рік тому

    I have many rods and reels i bought and a dozen new ambassador in box late 90s 5 and 6 series baitcat reels i got after my grandpa passed away. I need to get two or 4 good catfish rods. Those orange ones look like there made well.

  • @countryfriedfishing
    @countryfriedfishing Рік тому +1

    I dont know why but I can see Dave in spandex doing some ProAm Wrestling.

  • @Yelladog78
    @Yelladog78 8 місяців тому

    Best compromise for all around rod catfishing - meat hunter

  • @hunterseibert7567
    @hunterseibert7567 Рік тому

    Catfish Dave you should honestly just try a TFR versatile rods! You would really like it!

  • @gregdorey3394
    @gregdorey3394 Рік тому

    A very good analysis of fishing rods. I might be part of the masses, but I want the most value for my money. So Dave, what's the best value for your hard earned dollar?