Tried this way back last winter using a bit of cotton string. Just realized that I'm still using those band sets and they are still working months later! Great video! Thanks guy!
@@ATOMarkOh nonono nono !!! Dont use string?? Use flat band strips and wrap snake wrap. Do about three wraps then lick the rubber and tie your knot twice. If you were rubber how would you feel being constricted even when your not in use? Band failure 101. Use rubber.
@nathangrueber9834 agreed but I am not a fan of useing elastic to attach at the pouch. Adds too much weight and feels bulky. I used to use amber belt and Cristal string but the way I tune my bands I get some early failures now with the constrictor knot I am getting way more shots with high tuned bands. It works for me.
@@ATOMark i usta do string too. If i use 0.5 bands i don't use 0 .5 ties. Id use something really thin. Its not the ties im using to do the work; rather justvto create frictiin between the bands to hold the shelves. Tieing with heavier bands than the band thickness being used always gave me more band slap; which means more fine tuning.
Awesome series . Glad I found ur channel. I am in love with everything slingshot. From finding forks on trees to carving them and now making bands and Tying them myself. So satisfying
Theres no need to use 0.7mm to wrap and tie. It adds weight. 0.4 even something you can see thru is fine. You dint need the fuss of the string wrap and tuck pull thru either. Just start in the middle of your wrapping strip and wrap from behind ; cross both ends over the front; do it again then lick the knot and tie twice. Simple.
Many years down the road, I am still using this pre-formed constrictor knot on a fat straw/ slip them over the band method. I never remember how to tie the knot, so having half a dozen or so "ready to go" is very efficient.
@@ATOMark You may have heard of Richard "Blue" Skeen, a railroad engineer, who was a chanpion slingshooter from way back. Having never meeting him, I wrote to him once, requesting one of his home-made slingshots - and he complied with one, inscribed with his name. It's an old-fashioned Y shaped branch from a tree, not a board cut or anything modern. It came with what appeared to be butchers twine, and since then, I've had great success using (from WalMart) "Red Heart Fashion Crochet Thread #3", which is very soft but incredibly strong. That is what I use for my constrictor knots. Before I place the pouch in the jig, I loosely slide two constrictor knots on the pouch, and they're ready to be positioned and tightened when ready. VERY efficient! Years ago, when my back started giving me pain (I'm now almost 80 years, Imperial, not Metric) I had to leave archery behind, but picked up it's nearest cousin, slingshooting. I quickly became the Assistant Chief to "Chief AJ ", who headed the 2nd iteration of the National Slingshot Association. That was about 14 years ago. Now, I'm my HOA community official invasive Iguana remover, and I'm putting down my .22 cal PCP air rifle , because it's just to heavy to carry around, especially in south Florida heat and humidity, and I'm going to replace it with a slingshot. Should be interesting!
Very informative Mark. Will try this when my waxed thread comes in. Lost another band yesterday. BSB white on order along with some nice leather pouches. Thanks!
where do you order your goodies from? what pouches did you get? I want to try some real leather pouches. So far I have only tried super fiber........I do have some leather here I could try..... hmmmm
@@ATOMark Hey Mark, HTH Dogbone pouches from Ebay(Ben Priestley is Awesome) as well as WARRIOR pouches also on Ebay (just do a search). Leather pouches last FOREVER unless you are hunting with BIG power bands. I am only using my catapult for target. )
Oh nonono nono !!! Dont use string?? Use flat band strips and wrap snake wrap. Do about three wraps then lick the rubber and tie your knot twice. If you were rubber how would you feel being constricted even when your not in use? Band failure 101. Use rubber.
You are awesome. I enjoy your videos as much as Fowler. I really want to try to start making my own bands and use this method. I found some leather sewing thread on Amazon for about 6 bucks. Is this what you would use or recommend?
This is what I used in this video, and it worked well. The constrictor knot timing method is not my favorite band tieng method. I prefer to use amber belt or cuffs.
Great job Mate! I have been using cuffs again and found that they hold fine up to .80 i previously said i had trouble with heavier bands but with 7mm cuffs of 1632 they seem great on GZK old white!
I think wool would work I've never tried it but its strong and light. I would avoid fishing line. I have tried useing braid and many times it cut the elastic.
This is almost a clove hitch. The constrictor knot has a slight difference. It kind of has a half hitch in it. I could go a quick short on the 2 knots.
@@ATOMark Do you have any video on using the crystal string ? I feel like the string is really hard to use compare to amber belt.. its so slippery when to make a final knot..
As the penny gradually drops on my part🫣...... Looks like i`m being a bit heavy handed with my .5 band to pouch tying. With .80 bands I get around 200-500 shots and with my .5 setup i`m getting around 20 to 50 shots. It doesn't matter whether i`m using constrictor not wrap and tuck or tape it breaks on the outside of the tie leaving the tie still attached to the pouch. I don`t have a problem with .7-1.0mm... I think i`m stretching the band too much as i`m wrapping/tying it off. I don`t max out my bands always 5-10mm extra..
@@ATOMark Ahh, correctomondo! Still, finding that waxed leather sewing thread would be a ‘task’ here in Japan. I have some for my Speedy-Sticher but I’m not going to use that up.
That leather sewing thread is definitely not something you can get at a dollarstore and certainly they wouldn't be selling huge ass 50 yard spools of it. It's there an alternative place to purchase it locally or maybe a different material that is sold at a dollarstore?
Sure, you could use butcher string, inside strands of paracord. Really some people even use that cheap plastic tie down cord. The options are endless. Currently I am useing paracors strands as I have some laying around. I would imagine squid line for fishing would work as well. But really any small diameter cord will work.
I must say that constrictor knot is not as reliable as everyone claims. not on slingshots pouches. May be because of types of thread used, sewing leather and also longbow string thread. but I've had quite a few failures. i still use it but make at least two more knots.
On your video of your constrictor knot you said that it was almost impossible to get 8mm steel for your slingshot. Why don't you order it from Amazon? You can get 1,500 rounds for about 20.95, Which is not to expensive
Great Video on tying up bands.
Tried this way back last winter using a bit of cotton string. Just realized that I'm still using those band sets and they are still working months later! Great video! Thanks guy!
My pleasure bud! I'm glad it worked out for you. I think out of all the cord I have tried I like butcher cord the best..... the cotton stuff.
@@ATOMarkOh nonono nono !!!
Dont use string??
Use flat band strips and wrap snake wrap. Do about three wraps then lick the rubber and tie your knot twice.
If you were rubber how would you feel being constricted even when your not in use?
Band failure 101. Use rubber.
@nathangrueber9834 agreed but I am not a fan of useing elastic to attach at the pouch. Adds too much weight and feels bulky. I used to use amber belt and Cristal string but the way I tune my bands I get some early failures now with the constrictor knot I am getting way more shots with high tuned bands. It works for me.
@@ATOMark i usta do string too.
If i use 0.5 bands i don't use 0 .5 ties.
Id use something really thin. Its not the ties im using to do the work; rather justvto create frictiin between the bands to hold the shelves.
Tieing with heavier bands than the band thickness being used always gave me more band slap; which means more fine tuning.
There are not too many videos around that show how to do it without a jig - at least it was the only one I could find. And it’s a great one!
Thanks for the how too video , just started tying my own bands channels such as yours are a great time saver cheers
Now you will be able to really fine tune your bands to how you like them. Time to experiment and have some fun.
Magic ,thanks bud,,saved me money and time,,best regards Lesrobert
Thanks man
Awesome series . Glad I found ur channel. I am in love with everything slingshot. From finding forks on trees to carving them and now making bands and Tying them myself. So satisfying
Thanku for the knot tying ideas. I've never tied using a dowel. This will be much faster. Thankyou God bless.
The good thing is you can prepare many of them and use as needed.
Thank you for the tutorial. Very easy.
I am glad you found it useful.
Great tip! Thank you
Theres no need to use 0.7mm to wrap and tie. It adds weight.
0.4 even something you can see thru is fine.
You dint need the fuss of the string wrap and tuck pull thru either. Just start in the middle of your wrapping strip and wrap from behind ; cross both ends over the front; do it again then lick the knot and tie twice.
Simple.
I enjoy your videos!!
Thanks man
My favourite method now. Quick and easy
The nice thing about this method is it doesn't need any other equipment. You can get the job done with a pen, ruler and a rotary cutter.
Many years down the road, I am still using this pre-formed constrictor knot on a fat straw/ slip them over the band method. I never remember how to tie the knot, so having half a dozen or so "ready to go" is very efficient.
The constrictor knot is my go too. I now use cotton 1mm butchers twine and love it.
@@ATOMark You may have heard of Richard "Blue" Skeen, a railroad engineer, who was a chanpion slingshooter from way back. Having never meeting him, I wrote to him once, requesting one of his home-made slingshots - and he complied with one, inscribed with his name. It's an old-fashioned Y shaped branch from a tree, not a board cut or anything modern.
It came with what appeared to be butchers twine, and since then, I've had great success using (from WalMart) "Red Heart Fashion Crochet Thread #3", which is very soft but incredibly strong.
That is what I use for my constrictor knots. Before I place the pouch in the jig, I loosely slide two constrictor knots on the pouch, and they're ready to be positioned and tightened when ready. VERY efficient!
Years ago, when my back started giving me pain (I'm now almost 80 years, Imperial, not Metric) I had to leave archery behind, but picked up it's nearest cousin, slingshooting. I quickly became the Assistant Chief to "Chief AJ ", who headed the 2nd iteration of the National Slingshot Association.
That was about 14 years ago.
Now, I'm my HOA community official invasive Iguana remover, and I'm putting down my .22 cal PCP air rifle , because it's just to heavy to carry around, especially in south Florida heat and humidity, and I'm going to replace it with a slingshot. Should be interesting!
Very good example
Thanks man
Very informative Mark. Will try this when my waxed thread comes in. Lost another band yesterday. BSB white on order along with some nice leather pouches. Thanks!
where do you order your goodies from? what pouches did you get? I want to try some real leather pouches. So far I have only tried super fiber........I do have some leather here I could try..... hmmmm
@@ATOMark Hey Mark, HTH Dogbone pouches from Ebay(Ben Priestley is Awesome) as well as WARRIOR pouches also on Ebay (just do a search). Leather pouches last FOREVER unless you are hunting with BIG power bands. I am only using my catapult for target.
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I ordered some warrior pouches but couldnt find the hth ones. So I sent them a message on facebook. Hopefully I can get them in Roo leather!
@@ATOMark Roo leather is sold out Mark but he has even even better stuff! Ask for the DBone soft leather pouches. Ben's a good guy!
Very nice.I'll try the leather sewing thread😊
The best I have found is butchers cord.
I also use the constrictor-knot but I use nylon-twine!
how many shots do you get out of them?
Good Tip Glade to Find your Channel . Subbed youh
Thanks for the support brother
Oh nonono nono !!!
Dont use string??
Use flat band strips and wrap snake wrap. Do about three wraps then lick the rubber and tie your knot twice.
If you were rubber how would you feel being constricted even when your not in use?
Band failure 101. Use rubber.
Did you have the soft side of the pouch on the inside?? Knots on outside for sure. I’ve been told the soft side of the pouch is on the inside?
I always hole the ruff side and smooth side touch ammo. There really is no wrong wrong way just personal preference.
You are awesome. I enjoy your videos as much as Fowler. I really want to try to start making my own bands and use this method. I found some leather sewing thread on Amazon for about 6 bucks. Is this what you would use or recommend?
This is what I used in this video, and it worked well. The constrictor knot timing method is not my favorite band tieng method. I prefer to use amber belt or cuffs.
Great video - Do you find that the counter sunk holes really help with keeping the BBs in the same spot in the pouch when firing?
Yes I do. It also helps keep the pouch from shifting when you draw.
@@ATOMark Thanks for that. Very much appreciated.
@@ATOMark What make/model of pouch with dimple/countersunk do you use? Would they be available in the UK? Ebay? Amazon? etc, etc,
Great job Mate! I have been using cuffs again and found that they hold fine up to .80 i previously said i had trouble with heavier bands but with 7mm cuffs of 1632 they seem great on GZK old white!
Good to know! I will be trying some soon. I have some on the way from simpleshot. I cant wait to try them out.
Late reply but try a 1745 cuff on heavier bands hold much better
@@NsPsNiiPeS Thanks andy!
hello, where can I find the tires you have besides the internet?
So that is a tie for OTT? Do you have to position the bands differently in the pouch for TTF?
You can use that for both lol
How you tie is the same but how you fold the elastic is different. Usually for a ott I just fold in half but for ttf I fold it in 3.
can you use wool yarn or fishing line for that?
I think wool would work I've never tried it but its strong and light. I would avoid fishing line. I have tried useing braid and many times it cut the elastic.
Hi..can we use 0.8mm Nylon cord thread for pouch tying?
I think you can use any cord really. I have seen people that twisted plastic cord with great results.
@@ATOMark ooo,..okay,ty for reply 😁
Wacky rig tool and constrictor knot and butchers string thank you for the lesson 🪄
Does it matter which side your band ends are on your pouch .
I like to have them out but I don't think it matters. I have shot with them in before and saw no difference.
why not using the band jig here in combination with the constrictor knot?
You can if you want but ai want to show that there is a way that you can do it without a jig.
In the Navy we call it a clove hitch 😊
This is almost a clove hitch. The constrictor knot has a slight difference. It kind of has a half hitch in it. I could go a quick short on the 2 knots.
@@ATOMark sounds good 👍
Can this method of knot be use with the crystal string ?
I have never tried it. But I think the stretch of the cristal string might cause some slipping
@@ATOMark Do you have any video on using the crystal string ? I feel like the string is really hard to use compare to amber belt.. its so slippery when to make a final knot..
👌👍
As the penny gradually drops on my part🫣...... Looks like i`m being a bit heavy handed with my .5 band to pouch tying.
With .80 bands I get around 200-500 shots and with my .5 setup i`m getting around 20 to 50 shots. It doesn't matter whether i`m using constrictor not wrap and tuck or tape it breaks on the outside of the tie leaving the tie still attached to the pouch. I don`t have a problem with .7-1.0mm... I think i`m stretching the band too much as i`m wrapping/tying it off. I don`t max out my bands always 5-10mm extra..
Some times it is because the tie isn't tight enough. If it slips tight towards the pouch it will actually scuff the bands and cause early failures.
@@ATOMark I think I'm stretching the band far too much before I tie..
Could be. I have had that problem
Could I use 40lb braided fishing line?
I have never tried it. I was concerned it would cut the line.
Are u still using this method now?
No I tie with Cristal string.
@@ATOMark oh,did u find not good on that method?
Could fishing monofilament be used?
No idea, I have never tried it. If I had to guess i would say no. Thick line would be too tuff to tie and thin line would cut into the bands.
@@ATOMark seems logical. What's your thoughts on using thin elastic instead?
Many guys use elastic from the same bands for a wrap and tuck attachment. I have tried it and it works well.
FYI… That knot is called the clove hitch.
Nice clip. I’d have a hard time finding the string so I’m hoping this loses the competition.
Nope this is the constrictor not. Clove hitch doesn't go around the other tag end.
@@ATOMark
Ahh, correctomondo!
Still, finding that waxed leather sewing thread would be a ‘task’ here in Japan. I have some for my Speedy-Sticher but I’m not going to use that up.
That leather sewing thread is definitely not something you can get at a dollarstore and certainly they wouldn't be selling huge ass 50 yard spools of it. It's there an alternative place to purchase it locally or maybe a different material that is sold at a dollarstore?
Sure, you could use butcher string, inside strands of paracord. Really some people even use that cheap plastic tie down cord. The options are endless. Currently I am useing paracors strands as I have some laying around. I would imagine squid line for fishing would work as well. But really any small diameter cord will work.
I must say that constrictor knot is not as reliable as everyone claims. not on slingshots pouches. May be because of types of thread used, sewing leather and also longbow string thread. but I've had quite a few failures. i still use it but make at least two more knots.
Sgreed i am a Crystal string or belt guy.
Instead of using a flame use a Thread Zap by beadsmith
Ya that would work.
How can you even pretend to meltdown cotton twine
Because it isn't cotton twine.
Would waxed dental floss or tape work?
Don't know. Give it a try. Many guys use the cheap poly cord which is kinda like tape rolled up with great success
Ps do not put my address on your website thank you Robert Bussiere
What????
Did you get my other message
I sent you a message about sending you some 8mm steel for your slingshot, did you get it?
No I didn't see it.
On your video of your constrictor knot you said that it was almost impossible to get 8mm steel for your slingshot.
Why don't you order it from Amazon?
You can get 1,500 rounds for about 20.95,
Which is not to expensive