Royal Enfield Classic 350, Speedo Problems. Do I need another Bike?
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2024
- Hello,
Thanks for joining me.
On the way home from the Distinguished Gentleman's Ride my Speedo started to play up.
It was reading far too high and then when switched off the needle settled at 20 mph.
Classic symptoms of a knackered Speedo that many other owners seem to have experienced.
The problem was I self serviced my bike which apparently could invalidate my warranty.
What to do? I ask the question.
Have a look to see the response.
Thoughts turn to,
Do I need or want a second bike?
Ride Safe👍
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Mate, the dealer is bluffing about the warranty! You are protected under your British consumer rights law. He gave you that speedo because he had to by law, he wasn't doing you a favour, he was doing his job! Stuart Fillingham has made an excellent video explaining much better than I can why dealers can't do that. Seriously mate know your rights. I mean no disrespect, sorry if I sound pushy, I just get really cross when dealers bullshit to good people like yourself.
All very fair. I'm sure you're correct in all that you say.
Thanks for commenting.
Ride safe Mate 👍
A wholesome interaction, refreshing to see this type of conversation on the internet :)
@@paulfoster5432 Exactly !
I watched a video by “Riding with Warro” - he fixed the speedo by spraying some contact cleaner in the connector assembly, worked like a charm. When my Classic 350 speedo went wonky I did the same thing, worked like charm. No need for warranty or replacement, or dealerships. Easy 10 minute fix
Hi John, that's interesting as I don't think mine is suffering from the warped backing plate issue.
It's working OK as we speak but if it " goes again" my first port of call will be as you suggest.
Thanks for sharing.
Ride safe Mate👍
Bout time royal enfield got there act together, need a recall on these speedos.
Apparently the new one is different.👍
I own a Classic 350 and my speedo is absolutely spot on.
Whilst I do acknowledge certain failings in the Classic such as a lack of power and poor quality wheel spokes the accuracy of the speedo is definitely not a problem.
@freeman10000 Brilliant. let's hope it stays that way.👍
Thanks for the mention mate! I did get out on the new Honda on DGR day, and it was glorious!
Wasn't it Grand.
Hope you had a good tickle around.
Ride safe Mate👍
Thanks Keith great video. I know exactly what you mean about a having second bike. Heart over mind kind of thing. Thanks mate👍
That's it Garry, I've been here loads of times in the past.
Wants, not really needs.
Thanks for commenting.
Ride safe Mate 👍
I had three speedos replaced under warranty. The problem with mine was the face of the gauge bulges and contacts the needle. As you found out wherever it sticks is the “new zero”. Changing the speedo takes almost ten minutes to do. The speedo is a sealed unit so there’s no fixing it without cutting it apart. Glad they treated you right!
Thanks For that.
3 speedos is beyond a joke is it not.
It would surely be cheaper for them to just do a redesign and swipe them out.
You would imagine that Royal Enfield themselves would have a claim against the Speedo manufacturer.
They sorted me out OK, but it's disappointing to hear these tales!
Ride safe👍
I fancied a classic seventies bike, a trip back to my teens and all that. Then I thought, since I’ve had the meteor I’ve twice had the abs kick in…. Then there’s maintenance and parts to think about, these days I just want to get on and enjoy the ride.
Good result with the speedo! Ride safe mate.
Me also,rather ride than tinker.
You can't argue with that. It'd be a money pit.
@shottostravels From over 50 years of experience tinkering can be very expensive. Better to spend 4.5k and enjoy the quiet roads the UK has to offer.
Keith, I know exactly where you're coming from with your 2nd bike wishes. My Himalayan's taken me around Scotland and Spain on a regular basis, but last Sunday my oldest lad turned up on a '07 Transalp so I took it around the block (a long block!) .... Yes, it's great to have that little bit more power!
Food for thought! 👍
Martin, were never happy are we, then just when we think we are, turns out we're not.
Like you did, you jump on something a bit bigger and think, oh, this is great, a bit more power.
But how many times do we go down this route.👍
I’ve just inherited an Enfield meteor from an old friend who passed away, lovely man, it’s two years old with 400 miles on it, I ride a Kawasaki gtr 1400, so it’s a huge drop in power but I just love it, it’s comfortable, it’s cheap to run, it’s ideal for traffic, and it looks and sounds wonderful, thank you Dave, I really appreciate you leaving me this little gem.
I think the lower powered Enfields make a great second bike. I have the 411 Himalayan and it's great when I want to potter around the lanes in either the Peak District or North Wales. If I need to either get somewhere quickly or need to use faster roads then I do have a much more powerful bike which is a lot more relaxing than thrashing the 411.
He must of thought a lot of you. Ride safe Mate👍
Agreed, they exceed any expectations.
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Great stuff mate thanks for the photo and the mention ❤ you and I both know there will be another bike in the garage soon 😂😂I can read you like a book 😉🤣
A book with a large print too.
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@@shottostravels 🤣🤣 can I call round see Bev's reaction 🙏🤣
Anytime you want, as long as you don't mind 2 lunatic dogs.
Great news on the warranty issue, I was hoping they would treat you right if the need ever presented itself! Sorry that it did though. Test rides are dangerous😂, just like watching videos of these little Classics. That is what hooked me seeing the Classic design and hearing the sounds and comments. Absolutely no regrets with Lil' Darlin", but I do like having a few options in the stable for different riding situations and moods (although I am considering cutting back to three, I'm not sure that I need 2 "big bikes" anymore getting hard to balance road time for them all). The little Classic has brought back simple riding enjoyment often overlooked on the big powerful machines. You have room, life is short, enjoy a little self indulgence, keep the beautiful little Classic and add a mate for it that you find suits you best! You have no doubt worked hard and now it's time to enjoy life a little! Stay safe and may the blessings continue for you!
Thankyou.
I agree the little classic is wonderful riding around the little back roads of our Peak District.
I have been looking at other, bigger stuff and not just ' dropped on one" yet.
I'm sure I will, something will pop up and it's like many things, everything will align, and I will jump in. Probably.
You're right, I have a vid coming on Sunday where I continue the muttering and musings of weather to or not.
I do enjoy the chase!
In my experience it can be sometimes more fun than the end result.
Thanks for your support and continuing input.
Now about that stone wall that needs rebuilding?🤔
(You should come over here,
have you ever been?)
@@shottostravels The closet I have come to your part of the world was a 4 day business trip to Chambery, France for Honda. I did make it to Mont Blanc and Switzerland on that trip. I do enjoy your videos! Your history is much older than ours. Maybe one day, I can get there, until then, I'll keep watching from here. Perhaps I could coach you on stone wall repair😂. Looking for the next toy is fun, I enjoyed buying Lil' Darlin", I had never purchased a new bike on line before and had it delivered to my door. That was a nice experience. No way to go wrong with Bronze and chrome!
Oh wonderful. I have been to the US twice and loved every minute. I did two, two week fly drives.
One was west coast, into San Francisco and out of Los Angeles and one was East coast into Boston, and
around New England.
Maybe it's not too late to do it again.
We had a TV program on recently where teams were racing across Canada, that looked wonderful too.
So many places and the clocks ticking, I do think also that as you get a bit older you start to lose your mojo, lose the energy and desire to do trips like that.
maybe.🤔
As for Stone walls, no chance. That looks like real proper work.
I'll Definitely give that one a swerve!
My speedometer went haywire yesterday @220 miles on my 2023 Classic 350. It was only my 3rd ride. It's probably not a coincidence that yesterday was the first truly hot day that it's been out of the shed. Also, if you want another motorcycle, then go get one; unless your last name is actually Richards, you're not going to live forever. I don't think you should trade in the Classic, though; I'm 100% certain that you would regret it at some point. Thank you for the video!
Oh Dear, that's not a good advert is it. Bad luck and as you say, hottest day so far.
I hope you get it sorted quickly, ride safe Mate 👍
Stick with your classic, personally I also have 2020 himmy, yamaha xt660z the classic being the latest edition to the stable I haven't used either the himmy or xt since getting the little classic luv it luv it luv it safe riding mate
Good advice I'm sure.
I think you're onto something.
Ride safe Mate and thanks for commenting.👍
Interesting about the speedo Keith. I thought they had addressed the problem... obviously not. I'm lucky enough have two bikes. I love my little Classic 350 but feel the need for a bit more power for longer distances. Horses for courses! Ride safe.
Ah, Exactly. A man who understands.
What you doing on Saturday, let's go look at a few bikes!🤔
Ride safe Mate👍
The speedo issue has me feeling down. I knew of it when I was first interested in the classic. There was internet rumor that RE was going to have it fixed from the ‘23’s onward. Sadly we all know that’s not the case. It makes me feel regretful about choosing the classic even though I really like it. I find myself questioning if I will keep it long term. If you have one for many years, you could have to potentially change multiple speedos out.
No, no. Don't let it spoil the ownership experience.
It's a great choice, a great bike
If it packs in, they will sort it.
Don't let it spoil a great bike, it might never happen, numerous people have told me that.
Don't worry mate, enjoy your bike.
It's brilliant.
As we say around here dunner fret. ( Don't worry)
Take care 👍
I had a CB750F1 back in the day (must have sold it around 20 years ago), it was a very nice bike (a classic when I sold it) but as you mention, things have come a long way since then. My Continental GT650 is better in every way, except for power (which you'd only notice on fast roads/motorways) ...handling, braking, sound are all better on the GT650 and I get double the mpg.
Thanks Leigh, I agree, I think the Cb 750 could be just a roses round the door bit of a pipe dream. I like the thought but actually I'm the real world compared to modern bikes, and this might be controversial. They are probably not very good.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Ride safe Mate 👍
As Stuart Fillingham says, you can tour on any bike 👍. Stick with the 350 until winter then go get a winter bargain if the urge to buy still exists 😆. Great video 👍
I agree, you can tour on any bike, absolutely
But that doesn't mean some aren't better at it than others.🤔
Fair advice about winter though.
Ride safe Mate, see you soon, maybe when you get back from your Alpine adventure👍
Morning Keith, Ive not had this problem with my Classic 350, I've done 5,750 miles so far .
But I did have the speedo issue with my Interceptor and it was sorted no question and I'd done all the servicing myself. On my bike it was the speedo sensor wire and it was intermittent, fine one day then up the wall the next! 😆
Glad you got sorted without any problems.
I think some dealers are unnecessarily unhelpful because they've not had any money from buyers for servicing.
As for another bike, yeah you can never have enough if them, but if you're going for a bit more grunt get something more modern from the last twenty years or so , still cheap but will be reliable ,
Cheers Mel 🍻
Hi Mate,
Glad you haven't had any issues with your Speedo.
From what I hear dealers vary considerably in their responses but it doesn't seem very fair that they themselves can be caught between a rock and a hard place due to the unreasonable money that they get from warranty work from some manufacturers.
I was dealt with absolutely without quibble and would recommend my dealer.
But it's a bit of a minefield
Ride safe Mate👍
@@shottostravels cheers mate, there's something that's just occurred to me is that all the videos I've seen about the speedo problem appears to be on the Halcyon/chrome models? mine is the Gunmetal dark model,
I wonder if it's a certain batch of the Halcyon's ? Just a thought, maybe do a survey on it .? 🤔
I had the problem with the speedo last year, took it out, (a few minutes, dead easy), sprayed the connector and it seemed to fix it but it came back and eventually was replaced under warranty. They did it in under 10 minutes, outside the dealership and have had no problems since (almost 2,000 miles on new speedo) They gave me a signed document, showing original mileage of old speedo, which was 3,300 miles.
Excellent, one comment or was saying they are a pain to fit. That is clearly not your experience.
Glad to hear it.
Ride safe Mate 👍
There seems to be (so far) two possible problems you can have with the speedo. One, as some have mentioned,, seems to be a problem with too much grease in the electrical connectors which can be fixed by cleaning. The other, which Tiger Ness @tigerness5555 explains on his channel, is that the dial lifts and traps the needle. That one doesn't seem fixable, so new speedo required.
Strangely mine didn't seem to fit on either bracket.🤔
Just cursed I guess
Thanks for commenting
Ride safe Mate 👍
I'm sorry, the dealership suggested you take them some biscuits when they supply a part that failed under warranty but refuse to fit it?! If the aren't playing ball because Enfield are tight when it comes to warranty rates that's not your, the customers, fault. If they don't like the way Enfield work they shouldn't sell them rather than short change the customer because they're being short changed by the importer. Thanks for calling out the dealer.
Thanks for commenting.
I agree, but To be absolutely honest the dealer is aware that I am happy to do the work myself so the actual question of fitting the part wasn't for me at least an issue.
They may well have offered to fit it, especially as I have been told in these comments that it is a quick and easy job. The Truth is that fitting wasn't mentioned by me. I don't think that would have been a problem.
But it's a fair comment.
Ride safe👍
I think in the end you actually answered your own question, and that is the classic is all you really need.
Need yes, trouble is it doesn't tick every box, I don't suppose any bike can. But if I had something bigger, more power, more touring ability, wind protection, luggage? I'd have everything covered for me 🤔
Needs and wants?
@@shottostravels I have a 411 Himalayan (bought from Potteries) and a bigger more powerful bike. I have the best of both worlds, when I want to explore the lanes and minor roads I use the 411, if I either need to get somewhere quickly or just fancy a blast then I use the other bike.
RE should do a recall urgently on the sticking speedo issues as this poses a real risk to your licence with so many speed cameras both fixed and mobile in use today. Wales would be especially bad with the 20mph zones, going from a 50mph straight into a 20mph, even Leek has a few fixed cameras placed to catch you out. Do you think RE would provide legal representation to fight the case?😂😂😂😂😂
All my own servicing .
2 years now and a little condensation occasionally in the speedo.
Ebay 85 quid for a new speedo but its main display is Kph with secondary in mph.
Perfectly legal to use these in the UK
Still way way cheaper than paying the silly servicing prices
If I have to I'll buy one of those.
As you rightly say checking the valves and an oil change has nothing to do with the speedo not working.
Cleaning the plug couplers with WD40s switch cleaner may well help.
They put way too much lithium grease in all the connectors on their bikes and high resistance is also well known.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Can't disagree with any of that.
Ride safe 👍
You would think they would use a dielectric grease that help with electricity flow.
Morning Keith, no the Meteor does not have the sticking Speedo problem it’s just the classic and perhaps the new bullet, have you seen Tiger Ness’s video on his fix for it, worth a look. I know that you have already had one but there’s plenty of cheap interceptor’s about, far more useful than a “classic “ from the 70, enough performance to scratch the itch when needed and you can still have 350, best of both 😉👍 110 mph 🤣🤣 all the best buddy 👍
I forgot The meteors speedos completely different. Doh!😯
You know, I think if I'm going to do it I'm thinking more Adventure type bike, moe power, weather protection, luggage capacity, long distance comfort.
I agree about the 70s bike, probably best left alone.
You've got a Bonnie too haven't you?
Or am i confusing you with another?
Ride safe Mate 👍
Maybe France next year I'm hearing?
@@shottostravels yes I have a 900 speed twin though the meteor is getting more miles on it now 😂 I think your right going for something different like a adventure bike because the Triumph is only a bigger version of the meteor really, I wouldn’t change it now but something like the 650 Vstrom would be a different type of ride to the meteor. As for France, yea definitely next year, be in touch for that 👍
Next bike for me is going to be a Guzzi V85TT.. Easy maintenance, cheap(ish), plenty of power, weather protection, luggage, 2-up capability, character.. Will be perfect next to the C350.
My brother had a CB 750 back in the eighties. A lovely looking classic it is, but I found it to be sluggish and heavy back in the day, so I wonder what it would feel like now; depends on your expectations I suppose.
Bang on. I'd be disappointed wouldn't I. Rose tinted specs I'm afraid.
I'm not going down that route.
I'll just admire them from afar.
Ride Safe mate 👍
What about the Yamaha tenaray 700 twin for a bit of power you might be able to pick up a good secondhand one for longer trips
Thanks for your thoughts.
A good idea, however I am now sorted, I will share very soon.
Ride safe Mate 👍
Having a backup speedo is a good thing, dont feel a fraud. A second bike? I say go for it! I have a bonneville and a classic 350 just for that itch that needs scratchin'
It's funny, lots of people have a Classic 350 and as a second bike choose a Bonneville 🤔
The speedo issue, no it doesn't affect the Meteor and is unique to the Classic. The original issue was caused by heat/sunlight on the glass allowing the glass to distort and trap the needle at its pivot point. As a temporary fix put a corn plaster over the glass at its pivot point which tends to help as sunlight is kept directly away from the glass.
The modified Speedo has a different glass fitted to it which is supposedto alleviate the issue. I've had 3 Classics (Halcyon Grey/Signals Green/Halcyon Black currently) and each one has had the problem. I'm also hearing of owners who are still having the problem after a new Speedo head has been fitted, they are of chinese manufacture by the way. Good luck with fitting it, from what I understand it's a bit of a ball ache to fit and certainly takes a lot lot longer than 10minutes to fit. I waited 1 1/2 hours at my dealers to fit mine. Make sure you note the mileage too, it will be at zero on the replacement as the ECU doesn't store the information.🙂👍
Thank you for commenting.
That's all very interesting.
I was certainly led to believe it was an easy fit.
Time will tell, and I will report my findings.
Thanks for throwing a bit of light on why it was/is happening.
I hadn't noticed that but who knows,?
Mine was also definitely reading too fast, again don't know why.
Thanks again, ride safe👍
E10 fuel is a issue with old bikes
Personally speaking, me myself and I, would keep the 350 and fit the Performance cam'. If that's still not enough power increase, why not have an Interceptor 650? Cost is the reasoning behind my thinking. I can't immediately think of another manufacturer giving such value for money, unless you look at Chinese bikes which people say are much improved nowadays.
Cheers Keith
Thanks for commenting, I don't think the performance cam is, personally, my answer.
It won't increase, top end, wind protection, luggage carrying ability, or space.
Again I know the Interceptor but I feel it's just a bigger classic 350, not knocking it at all just my thoughts.
If I'm going to do it I don't want to get it wrong and feel maybe go for a bigger adventure bike, Triumph Tiger sport 660?
🤔
Morning Keith, every biker needs at least two bikes in case ones off the road at any point 😂well that's what l tell my wife 👍
Thanks Mark, were already not speaking but when she comes round I'll throw that into the mix.
Do you have a spare room for a lodger?🤔
@@shottostravels Hope you are joking about the wife but if not once l get rid of the kids you are welcome to move in 😂
@markpercy4277 ha, I am.
I think 🤔
@@michaelmurdock4607 l like your wife she sounds wonderful bud👍
One thing we should remember: Bike manufacturers would be taking a big risk if they simply said, "Go ahead, its ok, you can all service your own bikes, and we will still give full warranty benefits on your bike, regardless". While many bikers are fully competent mechanics, we should be mindful that vast numbers are actually clueless. With 'how to' videos on UA-cam often times telling us all that servicing is a doddle, plenty of folk are minded to have a go, when they definitely shouldn't! A surprisingly large number of riders don't even know how to tension a drive chain. I know of one chap who burned out a clutch on a honda in no time because he didn't understand the need to have 10mm of free play at the lever. So he wound all the free play out of the cable because the lever was wobbly! The first he knew there was a problem, was when the bike refused to pull away. And I know of plenty of people who have significantly overfilled their engines with oil because they checked the level with the bike on its side stand. People with this level of skill should not be allowed to retain warranty benefits after working on their own bikes. And there is no way for Royal Enfield or any other manufacturer to know if you fall into the perfectly capable or perfectly clueless category. We we all have to be treated with caution. And people shouldn't blame the dealers. The manufacturers define the terms and conditions, not the dealers. A dealer can't authorise a warranty claim. They can only view, report and register the claim. It has to be authorised by Royal Enfield (or whoever). As for certain people i know being allowed to have a go at adjusting their own valve clearances, I wouldn't let some of them fetch me a bag of chips! They would probably forget the salt and vinegar. 😂
Very well put.
I do remember an old acquaintance of mine who changed some front brake disc pads on a bike for another lad.
Can't remember the bike in question.
But I do remember him riding down the road only to find the brake didn't work and was screeching horrendously.
The fellow in question had put them in 100% backwards.
From them on we all nicknamed him "Ferodo".
But you put it much more eloquently than I ever could
Thanks and ride safe👍
And another one for you ...a bloke I used to ride with about 20 years ago had a CBR650R. One November he put his bike away for winter and he was concerned that his brakes might go rusty over the winter. So, he liberally sprayed, both brake discs and calipers with WD40🤪. Come spring he got his bike out and rode to the end of his street and put his brakes on. Nothing happened. He ended up stopping by dragging his boots on the road. That guy is now a member of The Institute of Project Managers. He should have known better than that; but he didn't. And that's why we are expected to present our bikes for servicing by the dealer. We shouldn't blame the dealers for this situation; it's not their fault.
If I were you I'd hold off for a bit on a new bike. The Classic 650 is not far off 😉 Just a thought 🤔
It's a fair thought but I'm thinking more Adventure bike, more power, more touring, distance ability with luggage and weather protection and the option to take her indoors if she wants to come.
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@@shottostravels That's the route I went down, both the 650 SM and Shotgun are heavy bikes (240kg) which is a lot for a 47bhp motor together with luggage and pillion. There are some great adventure bikes in the 700-800 cc range. Potteries have the Benelli 702 and the CFMoto 800MT.The Suzuki Vstrom 800 and Honda Transalp have been getting great reviews.
@AliasMrHackenbacker thanks for commenting.
I agree.
Ride safe Mate 👍
Behold the commandments :
1 - Every man should have a motorcycle .
2 - Every man should have another motorcycle as well .
Behold ; as it is written , so shall it be .
Thanks Mate, I appreciate the support.
I showed them to the bride.
She looked at it carefully, she said " that's wrong" and carried on ironing.
But thanks anyway
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@@shottostravels . Thou shalt not disturb the ironing .
We ride motorcycles ,
They iron.
Ha. 👍
Where's the traffic ?
I'm it!👍
Now you have planted the seed in your head its not worth fighting it. You know it will happen😊
You know me to well.
Still stupid, want not need .
One day I'll grow up.
Ride safe Mate👍
The speedo has nothing to do with service ...it's a quality controll Issue..poor quality bonding.of the dial face
Fair enough, thanks for commenting
Ride safe Mate 👍
I saw a brand spanking RE Meteor in the Tesco carpark and thought "oh dear" when the clutch lever moved up and down in its bracket.
Anyway, when the GN250 came here in 1987 for £1900 (like seven grand in 2024 money) it was expensive cause it was a real made in Japan solid motorbike. I have one now and it beats these cheap REs hands down.
A freakin speedo that goes phutt. Wassat all about? What was so wrong with twin mechanical clocks, with brass-base bulbs?
It'll be interesting to see what state the bike's in with 30 or 40 grand on the clock.
Oh sorry almost forgot. The odometer's buggered too.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Ride safe Mate👍
They didn’t do you a favour. Under EU law you are permitted to service your equipment. Their “policy “ doesn’t supersede custom protection laws. Good luck to you.
I think that EU regulation is only applicable to cars. It doesn't apply to motorcycles.
That's correct, firstly, strictly speaking we are not under EU law. We left!
But ,and to be fair we did adopt the regulations that we were under when we were in the EU.
As trev350 says motorcycles were never under the same block exemption regs that cars were.
That is why motorcycle manufacturers can insist that they or the authorized service centers service the bike. Having said all that, if you change your oil and you're engine seizes it's probably your problem.
If something packs up that should last the life of the bike, eg, a Speedo then surely they should sort it.
And they did , without quibble.
As Trev350 says, motorcycles are not covered in the same way that cars are.
Thanks for commenting.
Ride safe Mate 👍
Morning Keith, well your dealers a keeper ! Good lad, mate I’m in the exact same quandry what can I supplement the classic with with just that little more umphhh like I’ve said before an extra 15kph wouldn’t go amiss, only needed on the wider longer stretches rout national and autorouts, if I do go for another bike it’s gonna be a Super meteor or shotgun, if I go second hand it will be a Guzzi most definitely, I was out for 3 hours yesterday along the coast Mont Dol Cancal Dol Bretagne then through a nice twisty bit near Baguer pecan up & down 😳 and for the whole ride poss because of the scenery or the roads I was riding on their faster bike never crossed my mind 🙄🤪 I’m gonna relax and not put myself through the I want, I want thing again 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 at least for the moment 🙄 …. Pete🇫🇷
PS perhaps Mikes practicing 😊
@PeterHolland-mu7yn can't argue with that mate, want want want, never happy.
Come on Keith, grow up.
I'm like Matt Lucas off Little Britain, I want that one!
Yes, it looks like Mikes practicing for his forray across the channel.
I still might come.
I came down the M6 about 4 junctions on mine yesterday, it held a steady 65 but, it was no BMW Rt 1250!
Horses for courses.
Another thing is , the clocks ticking, my kids will get enough when I , well you know.
🤔Oh dear, can of worms.
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You seem too worried about what dealers get paid for a job.. may be worry about what you need to get done from a customers perspective. If the dealers not happy about performing a job for peanuts its their problem and they need to sort it out with the RE❤
That's fair enough. I'm just trying to put a bit of meat on the bones after as to why I have occasionally heard of less than perfect customer service from some RE dealers.
I should say mine has been great and personally I have no issues.
But it is a fair point.
It's a bit like taking a job and and then moaning about the pay.
Ride safe Mate👍
@@shottostravels in my experience RE dealers (at least in India) are one of the most challenging to deal with.. in fact i live in the same city where these machines are actually manufactured and i bought one directly from a company owned RE showroom.. the buying experience was pathetic to say the least! In recent years RE seems to be designing/producing some decent motorcycles..but, their after sales service have a long way to go to be considered anywhere near acceptable.
@@OOOUZHello, that's interesting.
Thanks for your thoughts.
I would have expected different, particularly as it is the home market.
If they can't get it right in their own back yard what hope have we got in the " rest of the world".
As you rightly mention if they truly aspire to being a major global force they perhaps need to look at the after sales customer care stuff.
They have made a great start with the bikes, odd issues aside.
Ride safe Mate 👍
They may have in small print flim flam in the warranty booklet to scare but it doesnt mean or stand a chance under uk consumer laws, you changing your oil and filter and adjusting tappets did not cause the speedo to fail and they where lucky you was prepared to fit it yourself, its all a bit laughable really
All very fair.
Thanks for commenting.
Ride safe Mate 👍
japanees motor , les problems and better performence for les money
My speedometer cluster failed. After getting the "run around" from the dealership I called royal enfield north America corporate headquarters. After a few weeks of going around and around with some bad communications they said that they would warranty claim my issue. The service dealership did a poor job installing the new speedometer cluster. It was loose and rattled all the way home. The dealership already proved to me that they are incapable of taking care of their customers. I fixed my speedometer. I now have a bike for sale for really cheap. Not the motorcycles fault. I want to think that I am lucky to get away from royal enfield for proving to me that they don't have the essential knowledge, passion, or skills to represent the royal enfield brand in North America.
Isn't it a shame. Completely avoidable. You know I have read and seen many posts on this and I am becoming convinced that it is largely down to the dealer.
I think mine is quite good. Others, like yours are hopeless.
At the end of the day it is down to Royal Enfield, they choose who represents them from in the market.
The Speedo issue should be a recall to sort it out once and for all.
Surely Royal Enfield can claim against whoever ( I was told a Chinese company) who supply them.
Good luck with your sale.
Ride safe👍
I get the problem as well, let it cool down and turn off and on a few times and it will settle back to zero. It only happens to mine after being parked in bright sunshine, perhaps the airflow keeps it cool enough while moving? Anyway it doesn't happen if I remember to cover the speedo with a cloth or something similar.
Thanks Dave, interesting. Apparently the plastic "glass" can warp, trapping the needle.
Apparently the new speedos have a different "glass" in them.
Time will tell👍
This has been going on for a while. Why hasn’t RE resolved the issue?
I wonder if a recall would be an option?🤔
Ride safe Mate👍