I have the normal 2023 Vstrom 1050 with Akrapovic. The bike does deliver. Is fun to ride with great sound, great quickshifter, good brakes. All in all great bikes and I love to ride it in the Alps going alone and riding it quick.
same as you except the akra. I got a lithium battery and took down the center stand and I saved 7 kilos. Of course I am kinda'f putting those back in accessories now :))
Nice review Bob. However, I think it would be better to show the pricing analysis based on configured bikes of what most riders will actually buy. E.g. You aren't ever going to see a 2024 GS on the road that isn't fitted with both the premium and comfort packages, and the popular variants will be GT 'Pro' and V4'S' in this sector. Very few people in western countries just buy a base model - dealers in the US won't even order them!
Agree, I won't be fooled by anymore European bikes , there Heartbreakers, beautiful to look at , but will leave you hanging every time you need her. V-steom 1050 for me
Grabbed a 2023 1290 SAS few months ago at the end of season sale. Had a pretty good discount on it. Was around $21k (CAD) after discounts and tax. New 2024 model currently selling at over $24k, not including tax!!! Only got 600km on it before having to put away for the winter, but been loving it so far. Can't wait to pull it out in another 3 months or so.
I think the last time I saw a Multistrada V4 that I actually drooled. Never ridden one, but I did spend some time on the Tiger 1200 Rally Pro and it was a pretty amazing machine.
The problem with HD is that i walked into the showroom with $18k budget. The bikes after mark up were starting at $21k. They offered financing but I didn't want too.
Pretty much all American and Euro ADV bikes are over $24K now...but if you are really wanting to do "adventure", get Japanese brands...you will be able to get them under $18K.
Nice summary, thx. Good point about considering the middleweights. Rode the Multistrada V2S and Desert X around Italy last year and neither was found lacking (except the Desert X was a bit buzzy for motorway riding). These prices are always tricky due to the extras and if you're buying a bike to tour then you're gonna want some of those $$ extras
Tiger Rally Explorer for me. I love that engine and it's one of the most comfortable bikes I've ever ridden. I don't know what all the fuss is about vibration. I guess that affects some more than others. That's nothing a set of bar end weights won't solve though. I have to say that the you get a lot of bike for the money with the VStrom. It's really a great bike that I think flies under a lot of people's radar.
I would love an 850 Boxer GS. Exactly the same tech including suspension. Just a scaled down version of the 1300 gs. Even better if it 2-/ made by Honda and had had Honda reliability!!
I just put a Speedo Angels on my Transalp yesterday. The angle on the corners are a little bit different than the dash on the bike but overall fits pretty good
In case you missed it (and sorry if I'm repeating other comments, but couldn't find any) @0.37 there seems to be a video rendering error: a blue bar with the text "New frames need analyzing; clcick Analyze".
I miss the Kawasaki Versys 1000 ! It isn't an off road bike but...The best motorcycle in terms of price /quality and with the SE version you get everything without configurator !
Like Bob was saying the only way to compare the price on all these brands is to spec them up to the same level in your country based on what you want. Then of course you still have to take them for a spin and consider other factors (eg. reliability, dealer network etc)
I spent 5 months on a waiting list for a '23 Africa Twin 1100. I ended up declining it and getting my deposit refunded after browsing the Honda forums. I rode the Pan America and loved it but it looked and felt cheap in numerous areas. I ended up on a V-Strom 800DE and, aside from having the worst headlight ever installed on a bike, it's been fantastic. Absolutely love it.
@@luckysxm Weak/soft/missing paint, inconsistently torqued fasteners, rusty spokes, difficult maintenance, low build quality, short water pump life, difficult to change spark plugs and air filters. 'Won't buy another Honda", "Honda quality has slipped" and "too heavy for off-road" also showed up quite a bit. I personally didn't care for the exceptionally complex dash and excessive electronics suite.
@@JayBee-cr8jm Honda not reliable ? That doesn't sound right. First time I hear that... If so, then what brand is in fact reliable ? Certainly not the european ones.
@@luckysxm I know my Triumph certainly was terrible. My last Big Mac w/cheese had better build quality than my 800XC. Please, go do your own research. Talk to owners.
@@JayBee-cr8jm I'm sure Honda owners have some problems like everybody else, but I was under the impression that those problems where not as common as in the other brands, at least the non-japanese ones. Suzuki and Yamaha are very reliable too, I've had my share of Suzukis and I loved them. Nowadays it's always a lottery with anything we buy, I'm afraid...
Nice one Bob. Thank you. Still can’t get passed the looks of the offering from HD. Even in the flesh, to me it’s still fugly and I’ve tried to find beauty in this beast.
It may be beyond the scope of Motobob’s mission, but it would be interesting to not only know the manufacturer’s MSRP and release dates but also the actual selling price (+ incentives/packages) and actual availability. While it’s fair to share the manufacturer’s marketing, it would be helpful for consumers to know what’s actually happening in the showrooms. Thanks!
Here in Canada, I’ve never seen a brand new bike in a dealer that has a sticker price above the msrp. If anything it’s a couple hundred lower to make room for new models.
I have a 2024 AT on order. Most of the other bikes are either too expensive or way too tall. The AT fits my shorter inseam very well. I plan on fitting luggage and the more comfy seats from the ATAS model.
No, I'm not looking for a large adventure bike, I brought a 2022 Pan Am Special Enthusiast Collection version (army green with the army star on the side), I love it. I would have considered the Moto Guzzi Stelvio if it had come out one year earlier, or maybe the BMW GS 1300 (but having heard one, it is very quiet, can hardly hear it when it rides past).
Not an adventure touring fan, but if I was to spend my hard earned money on such a bike, I would consider three of the 10 you listed. 1. Africa Twin 2. Edit: Pan America 3. Multistrada
Ducati doesn’t equip the bike with too much technology just what the users need to ride and enjoy. If I could afford 2 of those 8 : - Off-road, Africa Twins (Reliability and less expensive spare parts because we ride offroad, right ? so crash and scratch will be all over the place) - On-road, Ducati (power and style)
Best "real Adventure" motorcycle that has over 1000cc is (based on the fact that you can pick it up today from a dealer, and leave for Around-the-world trip tomorrow): 1) Yamaha Super Tenere 2) Suzuki V-Strom 1050 (2023 Africa Twin ES also works...they still say its 2022 :D ) 3) Honda Africa Twin ES (2024 model). Plus, these bikes will last well over 300K miles with just regular maintenance.
Triumph should have never molested the Triple's Crank. IMO, they FOK/Ed up a good thing. And they still won't admit it. Good thing they didn't FOK/ with the engine in the Street or Speed Triples. EDIT: DUCATI should have the Grand Tour MS come with a 17" front cast wheel as standard equipment. They have the RALLY version, they could make that a FULL BLOWN "off-road wannabe 2 wheeled tank", complete with 21"/18" spoke wheels and all the other "off-road looks related B.S" installed as standard. Same for KTM, TRIUMPH and SUZUKI. They all already sell a RALLY version of their ADV Tanks with 21" wheels. Thankfully KTM it's bringing out soon a 1390SM and SUZUKI just pumped out the GSX1000GX but I'm not a fan of inline 4 engines, same issue in the BMW House (GS1300S1000XR)_. I would like a road oriented V-STROM 1050 with 17" wheels as a Daily.
You forgot about the Yamaha Super Tenere 1200. Is it still available for 2024 (in the USA), and it is still very relevant in this category of motorcycles.
The Canadian sites have it listed...(I have ordered mine)... so I would imagine the US will follow close behind. Note, the standard features do vary market to market. In the UK (and possibly other European markets) it appears that the standard AT comes with heated grips and 12V accessory socket... but in Canada these are still optional accessories. Not sure what will happen for the US bikes, but I suspect they will be same as Canadian models.
@@coolhandchunk I need to check that out. Did you also get them for 2023? In the US the 2023 isn’t even listed. It shows the 2022 as the most recent year offered. Looking around I found people with 2022s ordered never even got them, on on the used market I haven’t seen many 22s
Yes, Canada had/has the 2023's along with just about every other major global market except for the US. Honda completely screwed us over on that one. They said it was because of supply chain issues, ha! That's pretty hard to swallow when all other markets had plenty in stock. And I wouldn't hold your breath for any 24's either. I was looking for a 2023 model but not anymore. See ya Honda! @@NabGer
Im on the market for new bike now...2024... can nit decide between GSA1250 ( super comfy ride)...KTM 1290sas ( powerfull but not very reliable)...or Suzuki 1050 ( cheap but soo ugly )... what I will buy? It Surprized me too....yamaha1200 supertenere ( super reliable, comfy and can handle lots of load)....yea, its a dinosaur now....but dont need all that electronic and super complicated equipment..
Very good review! Which one of all the bikes mentioned will be the best for on road riding only? Most comfortable, best fuel economy and best on road handling?
I think some of these prices are a bit misleading when it comes to real world offers. For example, good luck finding a bare bones 1300gs at that price, they just don't make them like that.
Just bought a new 1290 SAR, I’m a big BMW guy, but Berlin can’t get it together with the power issue. BMW has great electronics, fit and finish, but they’re pig when fully loaded, and fall on their faces when passing eighteen wheelers, and RV’s on US two lane highways…
It would be great if you got the standard vstrom 1050 for a review myself and alot of people I have talked with would like to see how the more road focused bike fairs out for road touring as there is not much content on the standard bike the DE has stolen all the attention 😀. Love your videos keep em coming .
Just curious....who pays the crazy prices for all the tech? Do you want to ride the bike or the bike ride by itself like a Tesla? In my opinion, motorcycling loses its purpose when a bunch of computers rule your life. Maybe I'm just old school but the money they are asking for all this useless tech is simply ridiculous. Do people cruise on them at 100mph plus and play with buttons and read computer screens? How safe is that? How long does it take to set up all that crap before you even start the engine? Suppose that you go on a long adventure, in rural areas, some computer craps out on you, who do you find to fix these damn things? dealer? you need appointments and what about parts availability. Sorry guys, give me a simple machine, I'm ready to start and go.
Time for a recession and deflation to make these more affordable. Triumph Tiger GT Pro in Eastern USA for service, features, and quality. 99% onroad. Many off-season sales. Japanese bikes seldom on sale, high demand. HD still stupidly adding markups and bike is not in demand. 2023s sitting.
When you pick one be honest with yourself. These so called Adventure bikes are for highway touring. Maybe a short run on a gravel road or well groomed forest road. The idea that these heavy bikes are off road dirt bikes is a joke. You want a comfortable highway tour bike, you don't need skid plates. The side bars will come in handy if you tip it over at a gas station. I have been a dirt bike rider all my life I still have my Beta 300. I had a BMW 1200 GSA - loved it for the highway and yes, I did tip it over at a gas station once. You need a special technique just to pick it back up. I would not want to ride one off road. Nobody takes a $20000+, 600+lb bike off road anyway, except for a marketing photo shot. So I'm saying if I had it to do over I would save some money and pick a bike more comfort and highway oriented. Maybe add the side bars.
The Versys is a great bike. It's just not classified as an adventure bike, which is what this video is about. The adventure bike that was snubbed yet again is the Yamaha Super Tenere.
Why pay that money for European brands that are extremely problematic in reliability and the predatory prices in terms of parts and maintenance lead to only one result. Being sucked dry out of your money for a poorly optimised and fragile product. Can't go wrong with Japanese industrial methodology. They care for the client, rider and the bike. And they don't suck you dry like a wall street Jabba the Hutt.
As I can’t afford any of these, I’ll just have to pick up the Himalayan 😂😂
If you were ever actually considering one of these bikes, a Himalayan won’t scratch that itch. Just buy a used bike like everybody else..
Went from a 18 1250 gsa to a 23 suzuki 1050 DE and love it , more simple, more reliable and plenty of real world power plus i got some change too😊
It will be the Stelvio, it looks great and that transfer V engine is unique! And one more reason, its made in Europe.
I have the normal 2023 Vstrom 1050 with Akrapovic. The bike does deliver. Is fun to ride with great sound, great quickshifter, good brakes. All in all great bikes and I love to ride it in the Alps going alone and riding it quick.
same as you except the akra. I got a lithium battery and took down the center stand and I saved 7 kilos. Of course I am kinda'f putting those back in accessories now :))
@@ioandragulescu6063 a good one with lithium battery.
Nice review Bob. However, I think it would be better to show the pricing analysis based on configured bikes of what most riders will actually buy. E.g. You aren't ever going to see a 2024 GS on the road that isn't fitted with both the premium and comfort packages, and the popular variants will be GT 'Pro' and V4'S' in this sector. Very few people in western countries just buy a base model - dealers in the US won't even order them!
Suzuki or Africa Twin for me. I won't even entertain a European marque as I don't trust their reliability.
Japanese is best reliability
A legend.... be more factual 😉
@@christianmouraux7269It is an opinion, we all know that.
Agree, I won't be fooled by anymore European bikes , there Heartbreakers, beautiful to look at , but will leave you hanging every time you need her. V-steom 1050 for me
Without European engineers there would not be bikes from Japan on this level
🔥🔥🔥KTM 1290 SAS 🔥🔥🔥 when you on it you love it🎉
0:36 cheers from a fellow Premiere Pro man
Grabbed a 2023 1290 SAS few months ago at the end of season sale. Had a pretty good discount on it. Was around $21k (CAD) after discounts and tax. New 2024 model currently selling at over $24k, not including tax!!! Only got 600km on it before having to put away for the winter, but been loving it so far. Can't wait to pull it out in another 3 months or so.
I love my Honda ATAS, I just wish for shaft drive (unpopular opinion, but that is what I want).
Only KTM 1290 SAR caught my eye. I really like it a lot. It capable for any road conditions on-road, off road is perfect ☝🏼
Yes 👍🏾
I think the last time I saw a Multistrada V4 that I actually drooled. Never ridden one, but I did spend some time on the Tiger 1200 Rally Pro and it was a pretty amazing machine.
Gotta have two of them! KTM1290SAR for narly offroad fun and the BMW or Ducati for touring with the wife.
The problem with HD is that i walked into the showroom with $18k budget. The bikes after mark up were starting at $21k. They offered financing but I didn't want too.
Pretty much all American and Euro ADV bikes are over $24K now...but if you are really wanting to do "adventure", get Japanese brands...you will be able to get them under $18K.
@@LooxJJ I bought a new 2018 Tiger 800. I got to keep some change.
@@Mytwistedvoices I hear so much good reviews of 900 models. But their prices have gone up so much as well... :/
Resale on the HD is terrible so you can pick them up for 15k used with about 1000 miles. Seen a few locally.
That V strom growing on me 1050 DE
Nice summary, thx. Good point about considering the middleweights. Rode the Multistrada V2S and Desert X around Italy last year and neither was found lacking (except the Desert X was a bit buzzy for motorway riding). These prices are always tricky due to the extras and if you're buying a bike to tour then you're gonna want some of those $$ extras
Tiger Rally Explorer for me. I love that engine and it's one of the most comfortable bikes I've ever ridden. I don't know what all the fuss is about vibration. I guess that affects some more than others. That's nothing a set of bar end weights won't solve though. I have to say that the you get a lot of bike for the money with the VStrom. It's really a great bike that I think flies under a lot of people's radar.
Got the Multistrada V4S, radar and travel with full Akrapovic installed. Love it 🤛🏼
I would love an 850 Boxer GS. Exactly the same tech including suspension. Just a scaled down version of the 1300 gs. Even better if it 2-/ made by Honda and had had Honda reliability!!
Iv been saying the same thing for years. The original gs 50 years ago was a 800cc boxer. Bring it back!
I just put a Speedo Angels on my Transalp yesterday. The angle on the corners are a little bit different than the dash on the bike but overall fits pretty good
Nice one Bob! 👏🏽
Either the 1300 GS, or 1290
In case you missed it (and sorry if I'm repeating other comments, but couldn't find any) @0.37 there seems to be a video rendering error: a blue bar with the text "New frames need analyzing; clcick Analyze".
I miss the Kawasaki Versys 1000 ! It isn't an off road bike but...The best motorcycle in terms of price /quality and with the SE version you get everything without configurator !
It is the most comfortable of all of these bikes.
great list, picking up Multi V4 Rally next Tuesday ..... keep up good work, cheers V!
I love my Rally too. So comfy and fast.
@ 9:42 That's a Fuji X100V . . . its upgrade is expected soon
is it yours Bob ? . . . i am thinking of GFX100ii + 55mm f/1.7
Like Bob was saying the only way to compare the price on all these brands is to spec them up to the same level in your country based on what you want. Then of course you still have to take them for a spin and consider other factors (eg. reliability, dealer network etc)
Triumph Tiger GT Pro is the one 👍
I spent 5 months on a waiting list for a '23 Africa Twin 1100. I ended up declining it and getting my deposit refunded after browsing the Honda forums. I rode the Pan America and loved it but it looked and felt cheap in numerous areas. I ended up on a V-Strom 800DE and, aside from having the worst headlight ever installed on a bike, it's been fantastic. Absolutely love it.
May I ask what you read on the honda forums that made you get a refund on your order ?
@@luckysxm Weak/soft/missing paint, inconsistently torqued fasteners, rusty spokes, difficult maintenance, low build quality, short water pump life, difficult to change spark plugs and air filters.
'Won't buy another Honda", "Honda quality has slipped" and "too heavy for off-road" also showed up quite a bit.
I personally didn't care for the exceptionally complex dash and excessive electronics suite.
@@JayBee-cr8jm Honda not reliable ? That doesn't sound right. First time I hear that... If so, then what brand is in fact reliable ? Certainly not the european ones.
@@luckysxm I know my Triumph certainly was terrible. My last Big Mac w/cheese had better build quality than my 800XC.
Please, go do your own research. Talk to owners.
@@JayBee-cr8jm I'm sure Honda owners have some problems like everybody else, but I was under the impression that those problems where not as common as in the other brands, at least the non-japanese ones. Suzuki and Yamaha are very reliable too, I've had my share of Suzukis and I loved them. Nowadays it's always a lottery with anything we buy, I'm afraid...
Service intervals....? Good deciding info ........
Nice one Bob. Thank you. Still can’t get passed the looks of the offering from HD. Even in the flesh, to me it’s still fugly and I’ve tried to find beauty in this beast.
Yeah, that squared off front is very ugly.
I’ll stick with the Beemers. Overall they’ve got it all more sorted than the rest of them IMO
Iv got a 18 GSA and love it. The AT is pretty wicked too. I’d be happy with either
It may be beyond the scope of Motobob’s mission, but it would be interesting to not only know the manufacturer’s MSRP and release dates but also the actual selling price (+ incentives/packages) and actual availability. While it’s fair to share the manufacturer’s marketing, it would be helpful for consumers to know what’s actually happening in the showrooms. Thanks!
Here in Canada, I’ve never seen a brand new bike in a dealer that has a sticker price above the msrp. If anything it’s a couple hundred lower to make room for new models.
@@Holmaaron Ditto for the UK. Unlike in the USA the price is the price
I have a 2024 AT on order. Most of the other bikes are either too expensive or way too tall. The AT fits my shorter inseam very well. I plan on fitting luggage and the more comfy seats from the ATAS model.
I have a 2021 AT Adv Sports...It is a supreme motorcycle!! I don't like that Honda has the 2024 AT Adv Sports available only with DCT.
@@sanyogshitole4856this was reported incorrectly. Honda offers both transmissions (manual and DCT) for both models (base and AS).
@@coolhandchunk You are right. I just checked. Glad that manual is available in Adv Sports.
No, I'm not looking for a large adventure bike, I brought a 2022 Pan Am Special Enthusiast Collection version (army green with the army star on the side), I love it. I would have considered the Moto Guzzi Stelvio if it had come out one year earlier, or maybe the BMW GS 1300 (but having heard one, it is very quiet, can hardly hear it when it rides past).
Why not list torque and hp and seat height on the spreadsheet I mean you say this is to assist making decision on bikes that fit each rider right?
Not an adventure touring fan, but if I was to spend my hard earned money on such a bike, I would consider three of the 10 you listed.
1. Africa Twin
2. Edit: Pan America
3. Multistrada
*Pan America
Thank you, kind Sir, for that correction.
Why not include the new gsx s1000 gx in the mix? Think that would be my pick.
GS or Stelvio for me
Ducati doesn’t equip the bike with too much technology just what the users need to ride and enjoy.
If I could afford 2 of those 8 :
- Off-road, Africa Twins (Reliability and less expensive spare parts because we ride offroad, right ? so crash and scratch will be all over the place)
- On-road, Ducati (power and style)
Africa Twin ❤❤❤
Gotta 2016 ktm super adv 1290 its fantastic so gentle and brutal at same time
Thank you
can you do a review of the 24 africa twin/adventure sports
Another great video, do you ever rest!
Best "real Adventure" motorcycle that has over 1000cc is (based on the fact that you can pick it up today from a dealer, and leave for Around-the-world trip tomorrow):
1) Yamaha Super Tenere
2) Suzuki V-Strom 1050 (2023 Africa Twin ES also works...they still say its 2022 :D )
3) Honda Africa Twin ES (2024 model).
Plus, these bikes will last well over 300K miles with just regular maintenance.
Agreed! It's really sad that the Super Tenere is not on this video. It's really an excellent bike that is way too often overlooked.
@@user-iq1td3uo4h It's out of production.
How is the Pan Am for touring?
Quite good, but not for intensive offroading cause of the weight and it doesnt have quick shifter which is a shame.
GS for me I have specked up a Triple Black TE £22k😮💨
Bang for the buck Honda ATAS/ES/DCT. 🏍
Triumph should have never molested the Triple's Crank.
IMO, they FOK/Ed up a good thing.
And they still won't admit it.
Good thing they didn't FOK/ with the engine in the Street or Speed Triples.
EDIT: DUCATI should have the Grand Tour MS come with a 17" front cast wheel as standard equipment.
They have the RALLY version, they could make that a FULL BLOWN "off-road wannabe 2 wheeled tank", complete with 21"/18" spoke wheels and all the other "off-road looks related B.S" installed as standard.
Same for KTM, TRIUMPH and SUZUKI. They all already sell a RALLY version of their ADV Tanks with 21" wheels.
Thankfully KTM it's bringing out soon a 1390SM and SUZUKI just pumped out the GSX1000GX but I'm not a fan of inline 4 engines, same issue in the BMW House (GS1300S1000XR)_.
I would like a road oriented V-STROM 1050 with 17" wheels as a Daily.
You forgot about the Yamaha Super Tenere 1200. Is it still available for 2024 (in the USA), and it is still very relevant in this category of motorcycles.
Off the market. In the U. S. at least.
They're just too heavy to really be functional off road. But appreciate them all.. To pick one.. MV Agusta. The sound and looks would never get old..
Any word on the 2024 Africa Twin coming to the US market?
The Canadian sites have it listed...(I have ordered mine)... so I would imagine the US will follow close behind. Note, the standard features do vary market to market. In the UK (and possibly other European markets) it appears that the standard AT comes with heated grips and 12V accessory socket... but in Canada these are still optional accessories. Not sure what will happen for the US bikes, but I suspect they will be same as Canadian models.
@@coolhandchunk I need to check that out. Did you also get them for 2023?
In the US the 2023 isn’t even listed. It shows the 2022 as the most recent year offered.
Looking around I found people with 2022s ordered never even got them, on on the used market I haven’t seen many 22s
Yes, Canada had/has the 2023's along with just about every other major global market except for the US. Honda completely screwed us over on that one. They said it was because of supply chain issues, ha! That's pretty hard to swallow when all other markets had plenty in stock. And I wouldn't hold your breath for any 24's either. I was looking for a 2023 model but not anymore. See ya Honda! @@NabGer
Superadventure every time ❤
The HD is so ugly
Africa Twin reliability,simplicity and functionality all in one.
Africa Twin probably most bang right in the middle
Im on the market for new bike now...2024... can nit decide between GSA1250 ( super comfy ride)...KTM 1290sas ( powerfull but not very reliable)...or Suzuki 1050 ( cheap but soo ugly )... what I will buy? It Surprized me too....yamaha1200 supertenere ( super reliable, comfy and can handle lots of load)....yea, its a dinosaur now....but dont need all that electronic and super complicated equipment..
I've just bought Honda ATW ADV 2024. KTM would be my 2nd choice.
Very good review! Which one of all the bikes mentioned will be the best for on road riding only? Most comfortable, best fuel economy and best on road handling?
KTM 1290 R is a rocket.... so much power is not needed but once you get used to it, it becomes addictive 😀
I think some of these prices are a bit misleading when it comes to real world offers. For example, good luck finding a bare bones 1300gs at that price, they just don't make them like that.
MANUAL Africa Twin Adventure Sports 2024 is now available in the UK
1290sas
You forgot to include the MV Agusta LXP.
Trucks! 😳
Honda my favorite number
KTM🧡
In Indonesia price 6-7X markup😅
No Super Tenere?
Nope. Cannot be purchased new in Europe as engine not Euro 5 compliant. Yamaha need to get their finger out.
@@Jungleland33got it here in US
minus that shitty euro exhaust
Interesting! with just a few mods the S1000XR could be on here...
Just bought a new 1290 SAR, I’m a big BMW guy, but Berlin can’t get it together with the power issue. BMW has great electronics, fit and finish, but they’re pig when fully loaded, and fall on their faces when passing eighteen wheelers, and RV’s on US two lane highways…
Which is the lightest? Africa twin standard model? Or tiger 900
The tiger is around 220kgs wet. While the AT stands at around 240-250
@@paulagnish AT standard is 236. So that makes the tiger the lightest. Tks 💪🏆
It would be great if you got the standard vstrom 1050 for a review myself and alot of people I have talked with would like to see how the more road focused bike fairs out for road touring as there is not much content on the standard bike the DE has stolen all the attention 😀. Love your videos keep em coming .
Essa Guzzi não é adventure é Cross ouver
1290r pleez
Tiger 1200 GT for me but without that 'orrible cross plane crank . . .oh, that'll be the Gen3 Tiger 1200 XRx then . .
Il stick with my Honda V4 1200x crosstourer . More than enough power for real world riding with minimal electronics to go wrong.
There are not 8 best.. there is only one and that is Ducati Multistrada RS. Too expensive for me though😢
Just curious....who pays the crazy prices for all the tech? Do you want to ride the bike or the bike ride by itself like a Tesla? In my opinion, motorcycling loses its purpose when a bunch of computers rule your life. Maybe I'm just old school but the money they are asking for all this useless tech is simply ridiculous. Do people cruise on them at 100mph plus and play with buttons and read computer screens? How safe is that? How long does it take to set up all that crap before you even start the engine? Suppose that you go on a long adventure, in rural areas, some computer craps out on you, who do you find to fix these damn things? dealer? you need appointments and what about parts availability. Sorry guys, give me a simple machine, I'm ready to start and go.
Ducati all the way if you can afford it :)
V Strom!
Time for a recession and deflation to make these more affordable. Triumph Tiger GT Pro in Eastern USA for service, features, and quality. 99% onroad. Many off-season sales. Japanese bikes seldom on sale, high demand. HD still stupidly adding markups and bike is not in demand. 2023s sitting.
When you pick one be honest with yourself. These so called Adventure bikes are for highway touring. Maybe a short run on a gravel road or well groomed forest road. The idea that these heavy bikes are off road dirt bikes is a joke. You want a comfortable highway tour bike, you don't need skid plates. The side bars will come in handy if you tip it over at a gas station. I have been a dirt bike rider all my life I still have my Beta 300. I had a BMW 1200 GSA - loved it for the highway and yes, I did tip it over at a gas station once. You need a special technique just to pick it back up. I would not want to ride one off road. Nobody takes a $20000+, 600+lb bike off road anyway, except for a marketing photo shot. So I'm saying if I had it to do over I would save some money and pick a bike more comfort and highway oriented. Maybe add the side bars.
Again the kawasaki versys1000 is snubbed
The Versys is a great bike. It's just not classified as an adventure bike, which is what this video is about. The adventure bike that was snubbed yet again is the Yamaha Super Tenere.
Nothing new from Yamaha?
Maybe because the Super Tenere is discontinued (Euro5).
They should make fz10 super tenere version just like that did with fz07. Yes an i4 will work on adv bike. 👍🏾
KTM'S new line should be " we do a great line in warning lights and spare part"
Insane prices in Europe! Manufacturers keep adding electronic junk to the motorcycle to keep the prices inflated 👎
Are you on drugs ? I've bought a KTM 1290 SAS including tech pack for £14599, pick in up in March.
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All are strong and kings in their own rights but KTM SUPER ADVENTURE 1290 is THE NUMBER ONE UNDER THE SUN
Making a top list without counting all accessories to make it real adventures is simply useless !
Suzuki ? The fastest depreciating ADV bike you can buy …
Ducati or Harley depreciate the most
Higher RRP than Japanese
Known for unreliability
So, yet another sell more video...
All Suzuki bikes need a nose job before I could consider an otherwise good bike
Why pay that money for European brands that are extremely problematic in reliability and the predatory prices in terms of parts and maintenance lead to only one result. Being sucked dry out of your money for a poorly optimised and fragile product. Can't go wrong with Japanese industrial methodology. They care for the client, rider and the bike. And they don't suck you dry like a wall street Jabba the Hutt.
1983 called and wants the Moto Guzzi styling back, please.
Harley is plain ugly and expensive.
All are over weight and not very functional in the real world. Any thing around 750CC is more than enough
The only practical person here