M1911 Pistol is Exclusively for Special Forces High Speeds
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2020
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The M1911 has been the weapon of choice for the U.S. Military and special ops community for over 100 years. We explore the history of the weapon and find out what the newest model, the M45A1, has to offer.
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Written by: Chris Cappy
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So roll, roll, roll, your joint, pick out the seeds and stems...
Keep up the great work! Love the afroman reference. For all those uncultured swine... ua-cam.com/video/rNtiEcT9W6M/v-deo.html
Can you talk about China's main rifles
Do you know if Rangers will be weld it or they still sticking with the Glock 19?
Line Infantry using the 9mm round? We still call them Line Infantry?
"before 1911 there was nothing"
*sad luger&mauser pistols noises*
*_Ian_*_ intensifies_
I was about to say that, what about the P08?
I enjoy using stripper clips to load my pistols, mags are overrated smh
Or sad 1903 noises
First there was nothing and then John Browning snapped his fingers and said “let there be automatic firearms”
1911 is like that 80 year old worker that refuses to retire but everyone loves him.
100 year old
And isn't really that useful compared to younger workers
110 years exactly
and then they gut him and give him new organs and say good as new
Kinda, but the 1911 is still better than most modern guns
"9mm kills the body but 45 ACP kills the soul; gotta make sure they don't come back as a lich."
Russian badger fan?
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The 1911 is one of the most iconic, best looking firearms ever built.
And for a military sidearm hardest hitting.
@@Sandhill1988 Hardest hitting? Lol, 45acp is like a 22 short compared to gigachad 45LC or literally any other .45 cartridge in existence. The Colt Single Action Army was the gun that won the west long before the 1911 saw 2 world wars on an officers hip!
And it was pre shot balanced, to fit my hand as well, …
@@pinkhead6857890 Wasn’t the issue with the Single Action Army that led to its replacement that it wasn’t powerful enough? Cracked up warriors in the Philippines would eat like 3-5 shots before finally going down.
With also another early XX Century handguns such as the German Luger P08 and Walther P38, the Belgian Browning GP-35 (Browning Hi-Power), all them were very influential. At such a point that some of them are the gold standard against which other pistols are often compared.
Love how the muzzle flashes came out of the grenade launcher
It's just an automatic grenade launcher
Yeah thats the new 200 round m203
It's the biggest caliber hole on that gun.
@Roberto Padilla *sarcastic hoorah*
It made me laugh.
“Remember switching to your side arm is faster than reloading”
Where was that from? I can't remember. COD MW2?
Raúl Toro Romero every FPS ever really
"Knifing the enemy is even faster"
The funny thing is that's literally not true.
Cod mw2. From thr Pit if I remember right.
During Desert Storm, I was tasked with picking up and delivering medical supplies to smaller forward medical units. I got a truck, an enlisted driver and we each got an M4, I was given a beretta every morning at the arms room. I kept grumbling that I’d rather have a 1911 and after about two weeks one magically appeared with a holster every time I got to the arms room. I was very happy.
Bull shit.☝
Much respect sir. I was in Jr high during desert storm. I remember for many reasons of course. But the one memory that stands out the most was the fact that a few of our teachers were in the Guard and got called up for active duty. I remember all the kids crowding around them and hugging them. And the administration was freaking out because they had to replace these teachers ASAP without any notice. And I remember watching all the tanks and rocket attacks in home room( 3rd period)on the world 🌎 news. I don't think our indoctrinated youth have such a thing in their schools. I know my children don't. Like I said. Thank you for your service and I'm glad you made it home. Sorry so long. But your statement pulled up all those memories of that situation. Nice story by the way. 1911, the best way to dress.
@@deansley174 Prove him wrong then.
Cool .and thank you for your service . It looks like the armorer was looking out for you.
@@deansley174 Not bull shit.
Brit here! I worked with the USMC and loved the 1911, I was issued with the 9mm Browning high power. Both good... depends if you can shoot and hit things really!
That has been my perspective on the .45 vs 9mm debate overall. Speaking without experience, just observation...
It makes sense that those moderately competent (like myself) would benefit from less recoil and more rounds to "try again" with the 9mm / Beretta.
Those with elite expertise, muscle memory, and weapon control can reap the benefits of the .45 / 1911; uninhibited by its "challenges".
Like with a motorcycle; a liter-bike has far superior performance capability for the experienced rider, but a novice will find more success in the 600cc class.
@@christophermastrocola3048 HI, Thanks for the reply. I would suggest the problem is the hold of the pistol. It makes all the difference if a pistol feels and locks in to the hand well. Then whether the barrel is locked to the frame or floating. P38 Walther, makarov are more accurate, as a rule than most floating barrel types. However, once again the most accurate and comfortable gun I ever fired was a bog standard S@W 38 Police Special. Just superb balance and accurate as hell.
When I was about 25 I went to a range that rented out 1911s. Only thing I'd ever shot was a cheap .22 rifle. With almost zero instruction I was able to hit inside the torso consistently and had no problem with the recoil - although I was letting it rise, wasn't trying for rapid follow up shots. I'm 6' tall but not heavily built.
On the same session I rented a Thompson submachine gun. Wasn't hard to learn short controllable bursts and again could fairly well stay inside the torso. I've never understood why the .45 is considered hard to shoot well, if I could do that in a minimal session.
In later years when I followed the (endless) debates over the US Army adopting the 9mm the only advantage I could see was high capacity mags and being able to hump more ammo. Also good for smaller, lighter soldiers.
Yes. With the lowered standard in attempt to foist women upon infantry, the whimpification factor had to be raised.
@Lurch7861 Hi, Thanks for your considered reply. I concur of course.
Fired a few a Bisley - back in the day - and instructed for a few years after that. All in the hand weld and sight picture for deliberate. Something nice about the Browning bounce on rapid mind you. Both ample firearms for the job really. Best Regards S
Everybody: talking about 9mm vs .45 ACP
10mm: what about me?
Yes
Get some Underwood ammo loaded more hot than .41 Magnum. You got your shit straight with almost as much magazine magazine capacity as a 9mm.
Or 40sw the weakened and tweaked 10mm . but aye who knows we might go to the fancy bottle neck cartridges that blur pistol and rifles. Why argue 45 and 9 mm well they stuck with ball ammo. Expanding bullets a no no
@@kepofshangri-la8942 "Get some Underwood ammo loaded more hot than .41 Magnum." 41mag 210g loaded with 23grains of H110. 10mm can not even dream of that power. I am a big fan of 10mm owning almost a dozen of them, but if you reload, you know things.
Im a 10mm fan, dont worry I love it. People complained that I carried it. My response was "People carry .357 mag, why cant I carry a 10mm?" 9/10 times the argument ended
“The Pistol That Forgot To Become Obsolete...” - Ahoy
Man of culture.
im horny
@@bruhdude8076 bruh
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@Legion Centurion
can confirm, the M1911 was made to kill Filipinos. probably not ones as fat as me tho.
Wasn't only the stopping power debate. The 9mm was a nato round so it made it more cost effective to make 9mm the standard so they wouldn't have to bring tons of ammo upon an invasion somewhere.
Bottom line is use the weapon you can shoot the best and load it up with other than ball ammo.
Back when the M-9 decision was made the Euros thought we were nuts. Unfortunately by then the movies had made the 9mm really sexy sounding plus someone with a working brain cell realized that the NATO Euro's didnt have any go to war ammo so we had to get an pistol that shot an inferior round so we could supply them with ammo. Modern 9mm Ball ammo has a bad problem with over penetration and doesnt do enough damage on its journey. A Former SF buddy of my related that he was once in an unknown country clearing houses and because he needed his hands available he was welding his M-9. A guy burst into the room with an axe and my bud put 6 center mass shots through the bad guys chest. Those shots didnt stop the guy/ Luckily his partner was able to fire a quick burst with his M-4 and a round caught the guy in the head.
Exactly, a lot of people don't realize that militaries and agencies, like the FBI and such, chose a weapon not because it's better and more powerful but because it's cheaper. They all hate spending money, .45 is more powerful but 9mm is cheaper, so to most militaries & agencies, 9mm wins, .45 for me though.
Most of the grunts, in my platoon, said “I would rather have an additional mag pouch with 3 30 round mags of 5.56 than an M-9”, 4 ounces more than an M-9 with a 15 round mag, a lot more firepower!
Maybe we just said that because we actually could not have an M-9
One reason im glad im a field MP. we get to rock the M9 on a leg holster but it can be a pain to have to keep track of a second weapon
I still don't want your Toyota even with the fins.
" I'm high speed harry!!!"
*muzzle flash from underbarrel m203*
if you don't shoot fully automatic from your m203 are you really even high speed?
@@Taskandpurpose my man turned on the infinite ammo cheat from cod4
My original pistol training was with the 9mm browing highpower (Canadian forces) but I was issued a old 1911 when I deployed with the USA in the 80s. I loved that pitted old thing. It always gave me that "warm fuzzy feeling" . Got myself a longslide version on civy St, still bring it out to the ranges.
My mother is Canadian. In the early 2000’s I got to do some training with the Canadian Forces in California when I was in the US Marines. I also had a great time once when our C-130 broke down at CFB Gander. It was the only time I was ever greeted in a military air terminal with a massive cooler of free beer. Great bunch of guys.
All jokes aside, are they still allowing you guys to own pistols up in Canada? We hear about it and it seems pretty terrible for Canadian gun owners. 🇺🇸🇨🇦
glad you visited Gander , i served there for a bit. i was also born in Newfoundland.
As for firearms laws well ,compared to you folks, our laws might be considered restrictive.
Presently you can own a pistol or revolver as long as it fits within the regulations. 10 round max, non-auto.
You also have to have completed a federal firearms ownership course, pass a background check, and be a member of a registered range.
You also have to secure your weapon in accordance with regulations. Ammo and weapon separate. Trigger-lock on Weapon. Weapon and ammo locked up.
But
Right now we have a law being passed to conduct a buyback on pistols, semi auto rifles, certain shotguns...
or maybe not....
its very Canadian.
Our government has been listening to the major population centers and ignoring the rural areas.
So now the rurals are letting there displeasure be known by voting for other parties.
I fully agree with the present rules on training, background checks, and storage.
But banning weapons because it looks scary or that (sorry about this part but ) our southern neighbors have lost their bloody minds in the gun "culture",
A surprising number of Canadians are forgetting that Canada is not in the USA.
We have laws that define who can safely have a weapon.
We have laws that provide years of jail time for infractions in firearm misuse.
Sadly these charges are the first to be dismissed in court.
But i do believe we will find a balance.
Not that i trust any incoming conservative "savior".
But that i trust the, pig headed, red tape stuffed, ever so slow, bureaucracy of government.
Staffed by people that would make Ebenezer Scrooge, pre-Christmas, seem like Richard Simmons in his heyday.
People who will grind any "hasty" plans into a delayed twisted shadow of the original design and insure that the government changes hands long before it can come into effect.
We lost our way for awhile, following a "leader" who sold us a pretty face with a familiar name.
But we are not usually a country of "cults of personality". Partys rise and fall, Prime Ministers come and blessedly quickly fade away after leaving office.
So we are all waiting around and see how it pans out. See? Very Canadian
@@MDR-hn2yz glad you visited Gander , i served there for a bit. i was also born in Newfoundland.
As for firearms laws well ,compared to you folks, our laws might be considered restrictive.
Presently you can own a pistol or revolver as long as it fits within the regulations. 10 round max, non-auto.
You also have to have completed a federal firearms ownership course, pass a background check, and be a member of a registered range.
You also have to secure your weapon in accordance with regulations. Ammo and weapon separate. Trigger-lock on Weapon. Weapon and ammo locked up.
But
Right now we have a law being passed to conduct a buyback on pistols, semi auto rifles, certain shotguns...
or maybe not....
its very Canadian.
Our government has been listening to the major population centers and ignoring the rural areas.
So now the rurals are letting there displeasure be known by voting for other parties.
I fully agree with the present rules on training, background checks, and storage.
But banning weapons because it looks scary or that (sorry about this part but ) our southern neighbors have lost their bloody minds in the gun "culture",
A surprising number of Canadians are forgetting that Canada is not in the USA.
We have laws that define who can safely have a weapon.
We have laws that provide years of jail time for infractions in firearm misuse.
Sadly these charges are the first to be dismissed in court.
But i do believe we will find a balance.
Not that i trust any incoming conservative "savior".
But that i trust the, pig headed, red tape stuffed, ever so slow, bureaucracy of government.
Staffed by people that would make Ebenezer Scrooge, pre-Christmas, seem like Richard Simmons in his heyday.
People who will grind any "hasty" plans into a delayed twisted shadow of the original design and insure that the government changes hands long before it can come into effect.
We lost our way for awhile, following a "leader" who sold us a pretty face with a familiar name.
But we are not usually a country of "cults of personality". Partys rise and fall, Prime Ministers come and blessedly quickly fade away after leaving office.
So we are all waiting around and see how it pans out. See? Very Canadian
@@ralffsmith2655 absolutely. Like I said half my family is Canadian and rural folks. I spent a lot of time up there as a kid.
The rural/urban gap is really apparent here in the US as well. The biggest difference (as far as guns are concerned) is that guns are considered a constitutional right here.
I had this conversation with my mom and her husband about the differences in views on guns between Americans and Canadians, because essentially we are the same people in a cultural sense.
In my view, the differences really boil down to how our countries came to be.
Americans had enough of the British crown, declaring our independence and then fighting the Revolutionary War to kick them out. A few short years later, we fought the War of 1812 to reaffirm that we wanted them to stay out. That is the foundation of our gun culture and our distrust of tyrannical governments.
Canadians on the other hand came about independence from Britain gradually, and through peaceful means. And I think complete independence didn’t occur until the 1980s. Even still, Canadians have a comfortable relationship with kings and queens, seem to have a sort of European view towards government.
Just my 2 cents. 🇺🇸🇨🇦
@MDR-hn2yz very good points. Canadians, as a whole, don't think much about the British Monarchy, but we still respect our past while trying to come to grips with the dark sides of it. The treatment of native Canadians especially ( my own province of Newfoundland committed genocide on a full race of them)
Honestly, we are not a lot different than Americans in a lot of ways, but fundamentaly, I think the big difference is how we look at our governments. With us, we look at them as a necessary "background noise" , to be ignored as long as its doing nothing too stupid.
With American it seems politics is the top sports entertainment, not football.
Each to their own i spose.
Thank you for your response
One of the most beautiful weapons ever designed. Timeless!
"The feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen. The slide’s been reinforced. And the interlock with the frame is tightened for added precision. The sight system is original, too. The thumb safety is extended to make it easier on the finger. A long-type trigger with non-slip grooves. A ring hammer… The base of the trigger guard’s been filed down for a higher grip. And not only that, nearly every part of this gun has been expertly crafted and customized"
Aw thank you Eva. Your the best and you are hot..
MGS3 reference.. Nice to know I wasn't the only one..
Read it with the bosses voice.
Best. Reference. Ever.
*proceeds to strip naked for no apparent reason*
he was shooting bullets from his grenade launcher
I also shoot nades from the gun barrel
@@Taskandpurpose Cool story bro but William Wallace shoots bolts of lightning from his arse! Love the content!
That’s just how high speed he is
I'm glad someone else saw that!
@@Taskandpurpose elite
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"Not entrusted with a pistol" " it aint me... I aint no fortunate son" playing in the background.
“Why do you like the 1911”
“It looks cool”
Luke L. The M9 has been used in every single War since its adoption in the mid 1980’s. There, récord broken. Both World Wars lasted around 10 years all together. The conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan is going on 19 years. Also Marsoc, is replacing their M1911 with the M18. One of the main reasons for this change is the lack of ammunition the M1911 has in comparison with the M18. Often times in battle, volume of fire is more important. The 1911 is a good pistol, but honestly the military should have considered the 2011’s if they wanted to go that route.
Jesus they’re both good pistol in there own respects
Trigger and sights.
@Luke L. Flint pistols have been used in many more wars for a longer period, doesn't make them the ultimate pistol however.
@@batteryboi8201 But I only respect one.
"Thats like roman warriors using a stick than a bronze age sword." Maybe cause that bronze age sword would've been over 3000 years old at that point
Exactly what I was going to say...
I theory is he played too much Empire Earth.
Still better than a stick..... y’all dumb😂
@@100joshtowner ah yes, a 3000 year old broken and rusted ass bronze sword is better
Better than a stick? Yes it is😂😂 idiot!
Lmao the muzzle flash coming out of high speed Harry’s 203 is the best part of this video
The M9 feels like a brick in the hand, while the 1911 is much more comfortable. As far as ballistics, the modern 9mm is close enough to the .45 for the differences to not really matter.
And modern 45 acp ammo is also better. At the end of the day a 45 hollow point expands to about an inch. A 9mm expands to about half an inch. Your putting a hole twice the size into someone with a 45. Wound cavitation from bullets impacting organs doesn't do permanent damage until 2200 fps which neither pistol reaches. May as well take the bigger permanent hole.
@@rooster-zg4oo actually twice the radius, that would be 4 times bigger (squared) in terms of area and 8 times bigger (cubed) in terms of damage volume.
I hope you're joking.. 9.0 is close enough to 11.43 aka .45 ? You meant to say: Not even close.. Right ? Almost 2.5 mm is a huge difference, hell even half a milimeter is a big difference in terms of caliber, more specifically their diameter and weight and with it the energy it delivers. Thats actually the reason why even in my country, that isnt anywhere near USA, our special forces use a .45 in their side-arm.
Another big misconception brought forward by people who dont know jack about these things (and I obviously dont mean you as you didnt claim this in your comment) is the claim "15 is better than 7".. No its not, not necessarily, and certainly not in many actual realistic scenarios that might happen, not to mention that you are not really limited to a 7 round mag, there also 9 round mags that are pretty popular and that brings it up to 10 rounds on the first use, where its 8 rounds in the case of 7 rounders, yet everyone likes to for some reason act like military and special forces never pre-load the extra round into the chamber, which they do, especially in case of small firearms and on the first defautl mag, while interestingly even when it comes to rifle mags, many actually load less rounds (2-4 less) into certain rifle magazines if the spring strain prevents the mag to be loaded into the specific rifle with relative ease.
Now back to the caliber issue I forgot to add, the higher energy is actually better when it comes to its energy because that energy delivers a bigger punch to both non-armored and armored individuals. When it comes to a non-armored person, the higher caliber diameter does way more damage, trauma and initial shock than a smaller one. This effect was many times questioned in the police after they were issued 9 mm handguns as there were and still are many cases where the suspect wasnt swayed enough by the damage those bullets were causing, and it was proven to be true in hunting esp. in case where the animal for example a deer wanst hit properly in its heart.
When it comes to armored individuals, the energy applies also here. Maybe you've seen videos where they shoot their pistol at like level II or IIIA or III body armor and the water jug behind the vest cracks and leaks water without even penetrating the vest? How is that possible right? Well as I mentioned its the tremendous energy the bullet carries, and its only logical that a higher diameter and weight caliber will do a bigger impact, in fact when comparing certain bullets types of some 9mm and .45 rounds the actual weight of the .45 can much more than those of a 9mm and I think its only logical that a higher weight in most cases directly correlates with higher energy.
Thats why you see special forces using .45, because the higher force (or physical trauma when non-armored) it delivers on those first 2-3 hits on close distance literally shocks and disorients the opponent more so you really dont need the high capacity if you're trained properly and dont miss often. In fact this is even more efficient than armor pen ammo on close distance, because logically armor pen ammo is designed to penetrate, and while it injure the person if it penetrates, even mortally perhaps, it does not induce as much trauma, thus the person can still regain their focus and potentially retaliate with their firearm and most probably successfully hitting you with their fire.
@@rooster-zg4oo Liberty defense ammo hits 2100-2200 out of a handgun
@@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU I wonder why no one ever thinks of all this. My dad was in Europe during WW2. He was explaining to someone what a .45 would do to you. If you stuck your hand out and it got hit with the .45, it would knock you flat. Stopping power when it counted.
1911 is just stylish.
Gotta care about your public image, y'know.
Goes better with the special forces beard.
Thems the facts
@ yep first gun i shot
What about the tacticool mustache
I have a hkvp9 and a sig 1911. And will say I am 100% certain that I prefer the 1911. By far the smoothest shooting and I'm way more accurate with it even when instinctive shooting. Dont get me wrong I love my vp9 but in a bad situation, I'm probably grabbing the 1911.
Not only more stylish, but also more tactical. Depending on the school of thought -in terms of tacticalness as it relates or does not relate to ballistics.
Chris: "you were basically stuck with a revolver"
C-96 Mauser, P-08 Luger, and every early lower power handgun like the C-93 and M1902: "Am I a joke to you?"
Don't get me wrong, I'm a John M Browning fanboy, but come on
He was referring to American soldiers.
He also said reliable, which the Luger wasn't.
You could get a C-96 in the US, I've seen sheriffs and cowboys with them.
@@Seth9809 some of those Mauser 1896 saw service during the Philippine-American War. They found the cartridges insufficient in stopping the Moros in Mindanao from charging even after a number of shots been fired. So, he was correct to say that basically you are stuck with a Revolver with the choices being the Colt New service in .38 Long colt, the 1877 Colt lightning and they even reissued the older 1873 peacemakers. Hence, these operational requirements led to the M1911.
Ian Kenneth Leganada There was also a field trial of .30 Lugers in the PI. But let’s face something, .30US Krag rifles were failing to take down Moros at close range. No pistol would be adequate short of cranial vault hits. Shotguns became an answer. Shotshells weren’t adapted to the climate or wet conditions though.
@@jeffreyroot6300 yep, there were trials held here for the field use of the Lugers. And yes, the Americans brought in Winchester 1897 shotguns that were quite effective taking down the Juramentados.
1911 is more silent with suppressor due to sub-sonic bullet speeds even with +p ammo. This is the reason special forces wants it even today.
9mm suppressed needs subsonic ammo which lags behind in one shot kills.
More to consider: in the civilian world where handguns are more often used as primary weapons, the "stopping power" gap between calibers has been largely closed by advances in JHP technology. The military can only use FMJ ammo and like Cappy said, pistols are rarely used.
Colonel Jeff Cooper said: “When we were audited for the FBI in 1947. I was told I ought not to use my pistol because it would be unfair. The first thing you should demand for a pistol to be unfair.” This isn’t word for word it is off of the top of my head.
"I carry a .45 'cause they dont make a .69"
@Achronic Deth try carrying that thing lol
Wish I had a .420
Of all the pistols I've owned and/or fired (revolver or semi-auto), the 1911 is the one I always come back to! Reliable, simple, and massive stopping power with the right ammo! In my opinion, the best pistol for the job! Just CAN'T go wrong!
what if they're wearing soft body armor? gonna wish you brought your FiveSeven... unless you're the headshot king, I guess (and if you need to get a headshot, you might wish you'd brought a gun with more capacity and easier follow-up shots). I'm just saying lol, not tryna shit talk, hope you're having a good one bro
As a junior staff officer, I always viewed the pistol as a reminder that my job was to fight with maps and radios. A pistol was perfectly suited for defending a TOC, which was about the only time anyone would want me to be using a firearm.
In all seriousness though, I find it humorous how the old, overused and poorly maintained Beretta pistols that have been in service forever, are generally viewed as being "unreliable", and even more humorous that the SF guys just Frankensteined and refurbished 1911 parts and viewed them as being more reliable. Barring some catastrophic design flaw, reliability is largely a function of maintenance.
I remember Larry Vickers, HUGE lover of the 1911 comment that the amount of time to truly keep a 1911 functional in terms of combat reliability was monsterous. He loved his 1911 but pretty much carries a Glock for combat. He put it best in that a 1911 has something like 86 moving parts. That's 86 points of failure in your gun. Compare that to 36 in a Glock. And I am currently looking for a truly nice 1911 to add to my collection, so not like I hate on the 1911, love them. But for my EDC, staying with my Sig.
Also old rickety m9's are sometimes more reliable because fine tolerances can jam up with matter and abuse. A gun that is well maintained but loosened up a bit is probably most reliable. Bit of sand binds up an FAL but sealed weapons and AK's c hug along.
I always just think of Hickok 45. Older guy with Tons of firearm knowledge. Could use anything he wanted to. Has a bunch of weapons of all kinds. Used revolvers and 1911s a bunch but what does he rely on and always vouch for.. glocks.
I love the 1911 but that's so true
@@brianvickery4071 I don't follow Larry Vickers that closely. I'm with you on carrying a Sig though.
Full auto noob tube
now ive seen everything
Check out the 3GL if you haven't seen it already.
I like your nick
Isn't a full auto noob tube just a mk 19?
The Iron Cross no he’s talking about High Speed Harry’s full auto M203
@@arshbahl1074 I want to make a full auto m203
I was introduced to the M 1911 in 1985 and it was love at first sight. My job keeping it battle ready was a dream because it almost never broke and replacing parts was a breeze.I loved telling officer's they need to clean their weapon.Then them asking me to take care of it for compensation.They never wanted you to return rounds from range days and I would make sure not to.I have shot probably 250,000 +rounds with the .45 and every round was as exciting as the first.You can knock down just about anything that gets in your way leaving a hole so big that the 9mm will need multiple rounds to match it.But I understand that some people need 16-17 shots to hit the target.Lol
I am a fanatic about 1911’s I own several, I carry one daily, and I qualify annually with my Springfield 1911 TRP. I don’t care that my magazines don’t hold as many rounds as your Glock. The 1911 was designed as an offensive weapon but rather a defensive weapon for officers. I am thankful for John Browning and General Pershing. Long live the 1911!
a modern 9mm with hollow points that holds 17 rounds is far more effective than a 45. the amount of energy between a 45 hollow point and a 9mm +p or +p+ hollow point is negligible. and at that point the extra ammo is far more worth the minuscule difference in energy delivered on target
@@acid6urns if you are going to bring in +p, then compare 45 +p also
@@acid6urns You can see many officer shootings of 9 vs 45. Plenty of videos (with 9mm) of guys with a gun getting shot 10+ times and still keep/running/shooting the officer until either ~60-90seconds pass and body starts to fail or the officer hits the spine or head which will drop them. The 45 normally 1-2 shots will stop a person within 5seconds. I would assume their 9mm is +p or +p+ but they normally don't share that info so possible they are using standard pressure 9mm (however, talking with cops; a lot carry +p hollow point). Either way; after seeing that multiple times the 45 is better & has the stopping power to take down a treat right there. Now the 9mm will end up killing/stopping a person but seems to have a delayed affect of 60-90seconds on a person (most I assume were on crack or meth; so it almost seems superhuman it takes a minute or so before the treat is down). Even knowing this I still prefer a 9mm(with +p) as it is easier to handle, more bullets, less weight. If you have a treat with a gun and need them to drop (to avoid return fire) 45 is best but you can practice head shots and the 9mm will do the same thing
@@johnnyasus86 No point in the videos context; Chris is stating folk don't think the 9mm has enough stopping power & 45 does. So why would you bring up +p 45 - it would only be better then the 45 -- isn't like he is saying 45s do not have enough stopping power.
The 1911 is the Michael Jordan of pistols
Yes...retired
5.7 FN ?
3milio Amezcu4 lol
Glock is lebron James
Nah more of a shaq
3:31 High-speed Harry is so powerful he made bullets come out of the grenade launcher!
In my humble opinion and experience, I have used a stock Colt .45 1911 A1 in near daily combat for 20 months in Vietnam 1969-1971. It never jammed. It never failed. It worked dirty or clean, it did not care. And I mean seriously dirty. Under combat duress, if a gun I have won't work dirty, I don't want it. The .45 Colt design has an extremely unique feature that if the barrel can be locked tightly to the inside of the slide, a firm and consitent fitting to the locking lug recesses, it makes ZERO difference how tight the slide is to the frame. A barrel locked tight to the upper lug grooves, will be locked to the slide and locked to the sights. It will always shoot where the sights are pointed, regardless of how the slide might be rocked or tilted to the frame. A loose frame to slide fitting allows more dirt/mud and to keep working perfectly, even to the point of pushing off extra dirt with each recoil. I have done this over thousands of rounds and combat pistol competition of for over 12 years. I am stunned how many gunsmiths insist on tightening the slide to the frame and greatly diminish the reliability of the overall system.
....I have also watched competitors and gunsmiths use WD-40 on their firearms. This is simply the stupidest thing I have ever witnessed. As a Master Locksmith I can tell you WD-40 is the wrong lubricant, for just about anything. Try spraying in the action of an Uzi, MP5 or an Ingram MAC 10. 90% of the time the weapon will freeze up before the end of the first magazine.
I have had put down over 15 of the enemy persuasion up close and personal with my .45 during that period in Southeast Asia. I was in Aircraft Rescue & Retrieval with the AmeriCal 23rd Infantry Division. Dropping in on downed aircraft and helicopters looking for survivors, airplane parts and weapons and having to shoot our way back out of ambushes, booby traps and more, gave me a bit of experience with the hand gun in close combat.
The .45 is not the best "killer". The 9 mm might exceed in that factor. The .45 is the best "stopper" of the two, and both are better than the .40 "short and weak".
When you are in a situation where you have to draw a handgun, the enemy is danger close. Your first task is not necessarily to kill them, it is to STOP them from anything they are doing. Like pulling the pin on a grenade. Stop them immediately regardless if it kills them or not. In this regard the .45 caliber scored 100% for me, even with shaky combat aiming.
An Interesting criticism pops up now and then about the grip angle, it points the gun at their crotch in a normal one or two hand extended hold, or even in the superior Weaver Grip. This is truly an advantage and should be used for full effect. If you are going to take several rapid shots, the recoil will make the gun climb. By the second round it should be dead center of mass, and the third at their head. A good groin shot damaging the pelvis is an amazingly good stopping effect. it just gets better from there on up.
The 9mm is sorely lacking in this ability to stop an opponent immediately. The largest an expanding bullet pulled out of organic matter averages about .41 caliber, up from the .35 caliber of the 9mm. This is still smaller than a solid non expanding bullet that starts off at .45 caliber. The 9mm can shoot clear through the average combatant, leave two exit wounds and hastening demise, but this lacks serious "stopping" power. Don't mistake killing power with stopping power, I hope this has been made clear for the moment. If I could shoot a 10 pound bowling ball out of a handgun, I would.
The matter of softer recoil is a moot point. Most beginners cannot tell the difference between the recoil of a fully loaded 9mm and a stock .45, and both guns weigh about the same if you add the 14+ rounds of 9mm. The effect of recoil is 75% psychological. And the sonic crack of a 9mm on unprotected ears is much harder to cope with for many than the subsonic stock .45.
The case for extra rounds, up to 18 in a 9mm. This argument does not hold water in 99% of the real life experiences I have had - as a combat requirement. This is what I have seen happen at least 10 different times in a firefight.... The extra rounds you need to make your opponent STOP, by their eventual passing into the after life, by shooting holes clear through them and anything or anyone behind them, ----------- takes too much time when you have other multiple opponents shooting at you or bearing down on you. ---------- At danger close you need to have one round that can do the job of stopping each one immediately. Whether they expire right away or not. This gives you the time and/or opportunity to run for cover or help the rest of them expire expediently. If necessary, reload and go back to finishing your task. ALWAYS COUNT YOUR ROUNDS.
If you are relying on the pistol to pray and spray as you relocate to a safer area, you usually have the wrong weapon for the situation, and should have brought the right one to begin with.
In that scenario I have found the Igram MAC 10, in any caliber, as a competent room broom. Just realize that using up a 30 round magazine in 1.4 seconds is one of the most efficient ways in combat to disarm yourself.
Since those days I have become a Master Locksmith and Master Pistolsmith. My current hand gun is the same .45 I carried in the Southeast Asian Wargames, that my father gave to me. He carried it while serving in the Pacific Theater during WW2, as a Master Sergeant in Marine Corps with Carlson's 2nd Raider Battalion. On competition days and early training days at the Gunsite Ranch, Prescott Arizona with Jeff Cooper and the bunch, I grace it with a dual stack, special formulated tempered aluminum frame I helped test with the early Para-Ordinance company. It will comfortably hold 14 rounds, which in turn fills my grip perfectly and not needing extra padded grips. It adds a bit more weight to the gun, stabilizes the sight picture, and ever so slightly reduces felt recoil. It shoots like silk and the gun is a better shot than I am.
As a kid going to gun stores with dad and uncles (all who served) I always heard the stories of the 45’s stopping power. One in particular story was how one shot of a 45 threw a charging enemy soldier out of a fox hole. It’s always been surreal to hear these stories since I was a kid. I was the first generation that didn’t have to serve. Thanks for your sacrifices.
Stopping power is a myth
You failed to mention that those troops pretty much wrapped themselves tightly in cloth on their torso and arms. So when they got hit they pretty much already had a tourniquet applied.
And they were high as a kite.
Having been to a few shooting ranges, I just wanna say that the 1911 simply feels better to hold and use than any other pistol I tried. Browning just got it right the first time.
John Moses Browning was a genius, period.
Here here,
Thought the same thing till I picked up a CZ75. Still great though.
Just to share bros. had the experience to use my grandfather's 45 Long in southern Philippines the revolver used against the "Hurimintados" or "Moros" its an awesome revolver that transitioned to the 1911. Lucky for us we had a quantum leap from the basic FMJ to whatever bullet we can think of nowadays. Gun Technology. 🇺🇲🇵🇭🇮🇱 Godspeed bro. very informative article!!
Marine Scout-Snipers were also issued the 1911 Colt as our sidearm back in the day. I discovered that its accuracy was vastly improved if you were friends with your armorers and asked them to be on the lookout for barrels that hadn't been used in Belleau Wood. Accuracy problems fixed.
As a medic i got an m4 and an m9, while the 11Bs only had m4s. I was like wtf why do i have more weapons than the infantry. just one more thing to keep track of
That is because your main job is to treat the wounded. The M9 is for when you have no other options. It basically means the security for each sector is dead or wounded. You carry an M4 because you are a soldier and if it came down to it you will need to pull security on a sector or need to fire downrange for cover. As a former 11B you will not have access to a 50 cal., mark219, the saw, m14, 249, 203, at4 and etc. We all have our specific job and weapons and we train accordingly.
I think you are supposed to hand them out to the wounded who have lost their weapons.. XD
Chase Michonski Only till recently your average infantrymans secondary weapon was his bayonet, not a hand gun, and it is still kind of true with the marines, but in the army you have no secondary
@@nathanrobinson1438 right but why wouldnt I just use my m4 if I had no other options, my m9 was just extra weight that I could be using for more mags or medical gear
@St. Yeeter BIG THINK
When I was selling guns a few years ago explaining to a customer why he should get a Glock 19...
Customer: a 45 will take a man's arm clean off though.
Me: that's not how physics works...
Guy ended up walking out with a Glock 19 Gen 4, and a Daniel Defense.
Best gun salesman in NH.
Should have sold him a chainsaw...take a man's arm clean off always.
Glock:🤮
Hipoint:😎
Tony Kunkel should have sold him a sawzall that can truly slice through anything just like the famed 1911
Who was that man John Wick?
@@tonyk2860
Chainsaws will take a man's arm off, but it won't be clean...
My thought to update the 1911 is to make it in 10mm. It is still a big hard hitting bullet, but it is going faster than the .45 to make for it's smaller size. (.40 cal for those wondering)
Edit: Also, about the Romans using sticks over swords, that was kind of a thing. If an opponent's armour was too tough for a sword, then they did bash in the skulls of their opponents with rocks, stick, and the like.
Romans (soldiers and gladiators) used wooden sword-like objects for training, not fighting.
In the Philippines they have the M1911 A2 caliber .45. This is a high-cap(14+1) 1911. For those who like to carry high capacity pistol in .45 caliber. buy the M1911 A2. Only the lower receiver is modified in the trigger strap because of the wider grip and magazine well but the upper receiver can have the upper receiver of the old 1911 single stack or 7/8 rounds capacity. I have the M1911 A2 as personal carry as I returned my service pistol 1911A1 although I wanted to have it for sentimental value as It has been with me for 29+ years in the service.
In my first unit out of basic and AIT I carried a 1911 everyday for 13 months. Over the next 9 years I carried one off and on whenever I was in a duty position where it was authorized. I really liked it.
@Lurch7861 Okay, you win.
45 cos they dont make a 46
But they do
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.460 S&W
I carry a 46 cos they dont make a 47
User 3937 .475 linebaugh
Tai Irwin i carry a .475 cuzz they dont make a .48
Reference the remark "If you have to use it you've already done goofed" it is only partly true. My father fought in WW2 and used a Colt 1911 as he crawled through the hedgerows. He said he often crawled up close to the enemy and the 45 was easier to use in the thick brush than his B.A.R. However it also saved his life when a green recruit fell asleep on watch and let an enemy sneak past. He caught my dad sleeping and was about to stab him when my dad woke up and shot the enemy with the 45 he always used as a pillow, held in his hand while sleeping.
I changed out parts in mine after drawing it from the armory in Germany in 1988, Army. Qualified, removed parts, returned to armory.
2:40 ".45 APC" happens to the best of us man
Automatic pistol colt
@@suntzu6468 wrong!!!!! The difference between the .45acp and .45apc is that the APC has a surge protector with battery backup for the optic.
Roman soldiers used a steel gladius, not a bronze Age sword.
If you didn’t have that profile pic and name I would roast you for being a nerd
The gladius for the vast majority of time was iron
I trained troops with the 1911A1 for most of my 25 years in the Army (1967 to 1992). Yes, up to 1992 since at that time, I was in the Army Reserve and we weren't issued the M9. The M9 was always too big for my hand and I never found much use for the double action first shot. I preferred condition one, cocked and locked with the 45. It's a myth that the recoil is too severe for most troops and dare I say, "Females". I shot a lot of competitions with the 45 and on one occasion, there was a young female who was only 5 ft and maybe 100 lbs and she out shot me. It's all about the training and the amount of practice which was woefully lacking.
The exact .38 round, the .38 Long Colt or .38 LC, that was supposedly ineffective against the Moros was a lot weaker than the 9mm Parabellum/Luger, though. Some contend that it was their shields that reduced the effectiveness of the .38 LC, while the significantly higher velocity 9mm would have penetrated them better than the .45 ACP. Eh, who knows, but perception sometimes counts for a lot.
.38 long colt in loads as used in Phillipines was pretty anemic .45 is much better as is 9mm
In USMC Lore, we were told that the Philippine guerilla fighters were often "juiced up" with native versions of natural amphetamines. So, they would keep coming after being shot with the .38 long colt rounds. While the .45 Colt stopped them in their tracks. That story was repeated at Subic Bay.
@@tjmul3381 I believe what you're saying, however I think the idea of stopping power of this kind (i.e. making this much of a difference) in any ordinary pistol caliber (as in not .500 S&W Magnum) is a myth. That's why I like the story/rumor of the shields possibly playing a part in this. Some calibers are demonstrably more penetrative of hard materials than others, so there can be a big difference in this case. .45 ACP will most definitely out-penetrate .38 LC, and be more effective after penetrating a shield, depending on how strong the shields are, of course.
On that note, though, 9mm Parabellum is generally more penetrative of hard barriers than .45 ACP, so arguably 9mm would or might have been even more effective in this scenario, hypothetically.
“.45 vs 9mm”
Me sitting with a 10mm 1911 tacops
I just chose to get all of them, I have a tac model 1911 in 45acp, two in 9mm with one as my urban conceal carry and on in a 2012 build, but I still want to get me a 10mm long slide variant
10mm Springfield trp 6"
11mm 1912. Bitches!
I've got one in .22 TCM. Smoothest feeding auto I've ever handled. You can run the slide with the edge of your pinky finger because the recoil spring is only 7#.
I have a Rock Island 10mm, 16 rounds of fuck Around and find out.
3:29 did that fire out of the grnade launcher.
Yes he modded it
Ofcourse, it's faster with less drag.
Its fair to say about most things in the military. Everyone generally loves the thing that came before the thing they have now. In the UK when we adopted the SLR, squaddies moaned they wanted the SMLE. When the SLR got replaced by the SA80 A1, the moaned they wanted the SLR (not without some genuine reasons that time). We replaced our Browning HP (1911) with Glocks and guess what?
As a Brit whose only experience shooting is a few times at a Canadian gun range (though you bet I made the most of it and put 1000+ rounds down range in total over my visits) I fell in love with the M1911A1 almost immediately, it was even more fun to shoot than the desert eagle. There's just something about the oomph of .45ACP that just speaks to you. I hope one day I get to retire to a country with better gun laws and be be a range fud telling the next generations why the 1911 is just better.
Admit it. You showed The Rock how to use "The People's Eyebrow".
For real huh?
One reason Special Forces use the .45 is because the round is subsonic. That means they can be suppressed, unlike the 9mm. As for the 1911 being the first successful automatic pistol? That's wrong. The Mauser c96 was the first truly successful one. And it served in both World Wars as well. sm
You can buy sound moderators from 45 down to .22 rim fire
@Peter Wait Yes you can. However, .45 ACP ball ammo is subsonic, unlike ball 9mm. Using subsonic ammo makes a suppressor far more effective.
147 gr 9mm is also subsonic
@@raider4997 M1153
Where’s it today
Here in the Brazilian Armed Forces, we use a 1911 made by Imbel, in .45ACP, double stack magazines, picatinny trails, shoudred barrel for supressor, night sights and opctis ready.
Served as a Combat Engineer, 101st Airborne Division when the 1911A1 was still the standard side arm. I also was my Company's Unit Armorer. Completed the United States Army's Armorer's School. Today in the Constitutional Militia my secondary weapon strapped in a drop leg holster is a Custom 1911A1. It is the only side arm I would ever consider carrying and trust my life with. It is an extension of my arm. I like how it feels in my hand, and I like how it shoots.
Hey now, the Steyr-Hahn was a good pistol too, and it predates the 1911.
It just used stripper clips
Exactly why the 1911 is amazing
colt 1900
@@adaadasda7693 fn m1903?
@@ahuman2695 ye thats another one i think idk im a bit slep
@@ahuman2695 That's in 9mm Browning Long.
As a Filipino, I'm relieved to hear you giving a shoutout to my country as a basis for making the 1911. Mabuhay to you Cappy!
Kamusta ka. The Philippines makes some good 1911 clones and they're reasonably priced .got one as a beater , 1500 rnds and only one jam (fired case bounced off the wall and back into the ejection port)
Emilio Aguinaldo and Phillipine Fighters who continued from the jungles after the Japanese occuppied. We (US) are lucky to have friends like you guys. Besides, LOL, I worked overseas with a bunch of PI folks. There was an American food line and a PI food line. I usually stayed in yours. Can't wait to visit your islands. Salute from an American in Colombia!
@@geoffwalters3662 your ignorance astounds me.
@@deansley174 WtF are you talking about?
@@johnsegertsons2143 is it really a clone if it has all the same parts though? I mean theres what a dozen companies that make a 1911?
3:30 My favorite part is the muzzle flash coming from the grenade launcher. lol
Prior to Parris Island in 1968 the only pistol I fired was a .22 so when I got to hold and fire the legendary 1911 it was memorable. I never carried a pistol while in the Crotch and as a civilian I bought a few 9mms and just didn't feel the connection. I've since owned two 1911 Compacts and they both stood head and shoulders above anything else I've owned. The 15° grip angle and the width fit my hand perfectly and I don't even feel the need to aim, though I do, as the sights line up perfectly without my having to alter the position of my wrist. I used to work for Beretta and they make excellent pistols but I always shot above and to the right with their 92s and 96s. My Sig 1911 Compact Carry puts the rounds right where I want them and in the smallest groups I've ever shot. Yes, it's only 8+1 but I think that'll work for me in most any instance. I am an unapologetic 1911 guy!
"Before the revolutionary design here you were basically stuck with a revolver."
Well, there's the Luger PO8
Americans weren’t being issued no damn Luger
Iconic. But proved to need cleaning often. And have heard finicky. Whatever that means. Ammo specific? What? I don’t know.
When they ran the military trials Lugar submitted a .45 cal p08 but was too prone to the elements I believe it's at the Smithsonian
I think they like to trigger(pun intended) ppl who know more.
Just like the Roman Legionary bit, that was Iron age.
Also, in the STG 44 Episode he absolutely butchered the pronounciation of "STURMGEWEHR"
My poor german Brain almost got an anheurism.
Bochardt, Bergmann, Dreyse,Steyr, Mannlicher , Mauser, Luger ,Frommer etcetera
So are we gonna just forget about the Browning Hi-Power?
Shhhhh
We don't about that.
That came after the 1911
When Browning realized the 1911 was being phased out so he started making the hi-power... remember handguns play such a minimal role in the military, the US couldn’t justify buying anything else. Hence why it’s the “one of the longest serving firearms.”
That was in 35.... 1935.
High-speed Harry is so high-speed he's modded his M203 to fire full-auto instead of single-shot. :P
I miss my 1911A1. I still own it, but after too many rounds through it I learned that the “Singer” on it made it special. Sits in a safe deposit box now.
I was in HHC of the 82nd Airborne Division during my last two deployments to Asscrackistan. On one of those tours, my major had a buddy in the SF who hooked him up with an M1911A2. This 1911A2 looked like the ones in your video but had a double stack magazine. When he went on his mid-tour leave he let me carry it for him. I think I was the only person in the 82nd that had ever shot a .45 in the army at that point. I know that thing hadn't been cleaned in quite a while but it was factory clean after I broke it down that first night and cleaned it up.
Me: What about a 1911 chambered with a 9mm?
Army brother in-law:Shut up civilian... from across the room
Me:Sorry I'll go now..
Heresy
It's called a Hi-Power, they only just stopped making them in 2018.
@@watchm4ker Yes the Holy Hi-Power
Absolutely love the 1911, my old man was able to purchase one from the army while he was a rip instructor at benning, it was built in 1913 and I still shoot it, runs like new
I do love the history of the 1911. I fell in love with it,the first time I saw it. I’m an Army Vet. I own two Colt 1911’s. One Lightweight Commander 4.25” barrel,9mm. And a Government model w/rail 45 ACP,5” barrel. I enjoy shooting them. I enjoy tight shot groupings,with them.
Can’t wait to join up with the rest of the military
you can say that now, but see what ya think if your ever in actual combat, I pray you never will
Ulfhedinn Tyr Genius you can always use sniper bait
Go to the Air Force ! Go aviation intelligence or cyber once you leave your going to be getting the big bucks !!!!! Don’t fall into the dumb shit of infantry vs pog mindset !
Ulfhedinn Tyr space force !
Joshua Bressel yea of you were a ranger or green beret super stacked some type of special missions unit type marine force recon combat controller etc standard rank and file infantry are not going to get those sweet trigger puller jobs very very few get those standard infantry are a dime a dozen dude
Update: Special forces just adopted the black power 1851 colt navy with a picatinny Rail on the loading lever as their new sidearm. They adopted the 1911 variant because they didn’t have access to anything older and more outdated at the time
And the Marines updated their pistol to the M18 which means that we already have rail guns. Because everything that the other branches have a Marine has 15-40 generations before lol
Add a rail and you have an elite weapon.
With respect amigo...sometime( not always) change is mistaken for progress. Whatever gets the job done is the best ( in my inexperienced opinion)
True there is still a reason why people say it’s the gun that forgot to become obsolete also a lot of modern handguns are based of the 1911 so if they use at heart the same system in theory it can be modernized because the gun at heart still has potential
1911s are fine if you like that sort of thing but not as a military combat weapon imo. If I had the budget, sure, I’d buy some $2000 1911s. I don’t have that budget so what’s carry needs to be reliable and durable and repairable. For me, that’s a Glock or most reputable manufacturer striker pistols, not the old folks 1911
I agree with what you're saying about the 1911, that it's mainly a status symbol. It does have some practicality with its higher power 45 round, but for that power to be practical, the person carrying it needs the skill and training to operate it effectively with the heavier recoil. It reminds me a little of Patton carrying that nickel plated Colt Single Action Army.
Heavier recoil? have you ever shot a 1911? it feels about the same as shooting a 9mm glock, because the 1911 has a metal frame to help soak up recoil. 1911 is a very comfy gun to shoot, which is why there are so many photos of ww1 and ww2 and korea and nam of people shooting it one handed, with accuracy too.
i agree im small 5'9 180 pounds and i shoot my .45 better than anything in my collection why its my conceal carry
I carried the 1911 in a black leather chest holster as a Tanker for many years until they switched us to the 9. Now my everyday carry is a Springfield XDS 45.
Host: *mentions the rate of fire advantage of the 1911 over revolvers* Me: *laughs in Jerry Miculek*
"Grunts aren't trusted with pistols."
*laughs in Crewman, Medic, Machine Gunner, and Squad Leader*
Ah yes... My Squad mentality. Grunts definitely don't get pistols, and nowhere is this more true than in Squad itself.
And this also gets my credit as a Filipino. It is true that the .38 was used by US troops and they found that it didn't always take out whatever it is they were shooting at. And fast forward over 200 years later and even we are debating about the whole .45 ACP vs 9mm thing today. Both police and military units still use both, and even criminals can get their hands on the stuff.
Civil Affairs here… had 92FS since the beginning. On quals was always scoring 27-29 (never perfect 30). After we switched to M17 last year got 30 out 30 on the first run.
"Cappy, where is your rifle?" That one got me haha
The .38 cal story has more to it like how the natives basically fought with full body tourniquets arm, legs, waist, chest and everywhere they could have got cut during battle slowing the bleeding and allowing them to fight longer it’s was a tradition among the warriors so when the Calvary engaged them if it wasn’t a critical head wound these native warrior could carry on after 5+ body shots, were each soldier only had a 6 shot revolver and some only had 5 witch was the most reliable safety at the time an empty chamber.
How does a full body tourniquet mitigate body shots? Did they tourniquet their neck and organs too?
Colt: "Our gun has better stopping power."
Beretta: "Our gun has higher capacity."
Rock Island Armory: *"Allow us to introduce ourselves."*
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HK: So I heard y'all want 45 ACP with rifle performance
@@ArcturusOTE Lol, yeah that's a good one to.
HK: "We heard you wanted a rifle that's only effective out to 50 meters... *That'll be $2,000.* "
Kimber had double stack mags first. I’m sure you have heard of them because they were so popular lol.
FNX .45 leans in*
I was in multiple engagements before desert storm. Just before our trip over there they gave us the 9. Hated it. Later when used in the conflict was close quarters. It sucked. That's is why I carry one today.
When I was a grunt in the 80’s they stated the reason for the switch from 45 cal to 9mm was because NATO used it . Anyway John Browning designed the best weapons in history the 1911 , the Browning Hi Power and the Ma Duce . One of the most versatile and powerful machine guns made
I like the full auto muzzle flashes coming from that single shot m203 XD
As a med student who has seen some sht, I can assure you that damage from 45acp and 357 noticeably more traumatizing for the victim then 9mm. I've even carried a conversation with folks shot in the torso with a 9mm...while they were being treated.
you do realise that .357 and 9mm have the same size bullet right, the cartridge on the .357 is just bigger.
@@GuardionOfficial force exerted is calculated by considering both mass and velocity. 124 grain 9mm has a velocity of 1180 fps, while 124 grains 357 has velocity of 1320 fps. This is also why a 5.56, despite being a small round, does way more damage than piston round.
@@igorcossack8117
thats what i said right, the case of a .357 is bigger than the 9mm parabellum that is why it packs more energy, the bullet however can be exactly the same so unless the bullet dit not deform its very hard to distinguish if its a 9mm or a .357.
@Mike P
9 mm is .357 inch.
its about the thickness of the bullet not the fucking casing, learn to read dude!!!
I once knew someone who was a WWII and Korean War vet. He told me when he fought the Chinese in Korea, they were all hopped up on drugs to be fearless. He had a 30 cal. carbine and a Colt .45 pistol. When the Chinese charged the line, he would hit them with the carbine. After a couple of magazines and realizing the affect was very little and they kept on coming, he threw his carbine down and pulled his Colt out. He said that's when they started to drop. I will always be a fan of the .45 bullet with that story.
I've spoken to several korea vets who all said 1911 saved them when it counted.
Good luck getting today’s new trainees to qualify with a 1911 with full charge 230 FMJ.
The M1911 is the handgun that keeps evolving that's something that not even John M. Browning wouldn't even imagine for his creation to keep improving.
"The .45 has more stopping power!" *twisted tea has entered the chat*
“Muh stopping power”
I heard the military was using it to make nukes
230gr uh huh ! +P
stopping power AND magazine capacity are a meme. shot placement is what matters. it doesn't matter if your 9mm glock has 17+5 mags if you can't hit a damn thing, you're just more of a danger to the people around you. 1911 is the more accurate gun
Para Ordinance P14 lower has 14 rounds and been around since the 80s. Para Ordinance started making full pistols in the 90s. Remington bought them and called it the R1. I carry the P12 which has 12 rounds and the footprint of a Glock 19.
I love my Remington-Rand 1911 but I always find myself putting my Browning Hi Power in to the range bag.
*fires a full auto burst from the 40mm 203*
Crackhead
Welcome to the heavy weapons platoon
MARSOC already phased them out in 2016 and MEUSOC units are phasing them out already. You are quite late to the party by like 8 years with M45 release...
Great pistol tho. Gaston Glock consumed MARSOC's soul.
Yea this is late
I believe Force Recon still uses the newer, better cerakote version. Ask any competition shooter what they prefer.
That's not the complete story. They have to keep a standard pistol in inventory. 99% of Special Operations guys use their own pistol, so the military could keep $1500 1911s in inventory that don't get used much, or they can keep $500 Glocks in inventory that won't get used hardly at all, so they opted for the cheaper route.
@@Gearparadummies Most competitions are dominated by Glock 34s lol.
@@Germfish Nope.
I herd a story about a world War two vet on the 🏝. His machines gun failed. He pulled out his 45 a took down 7 men that were falling on his position. That's all I needed to hear. Always have my 1911 handy.
I'm a few years too late for this comment. Back in 2003 when we were dismounted (19K, M1A2 SEP) we used our trusty dusty M9s to clear rooms; our M16s were definitely too long for tight corners and small hallways. Our motto was "Death before Dismount" which makes sense because we were still organized as an old Cav regiment, but we still had a "job" to do. When we learned our tanks were completely worthless in urban combat we temporarily took over some old M113s (it's an aluminum box with a slow, loud engine on tracks, with a cute M2 for the gunner/VC, destined for Iraqi Army). We were never properly trained or equipped for infantry roles, but that's still the secondary job of every soldier in the US military. Room clearing with a pistol, regardless of caliber, is not ideal tho.
A couple decades later and we have overwhelming evidence showing that 9mm is at least as good as .45. I never trusted my M9 because of all the BS I was told, but years later I know now that the .45 M1911 was barely as good or worse than the M9 in all ballistic tests. 1911s/M9s were NEVER meant as primary weapons, just like Jeep or HMMWV were never front line assault vehicles. My 1911 I have is just a civilian replacement for what I had wished for in the Army, but now I realize the M9 really was a wise choice for the military.