@@killabandit 🤕. They tried to sell me on a 2025 1794 CM with the hybrid engine.78900. I test drove a 2034 capstone. I was nice and fancy with all the nice tech but the TTV6 hybrid didn't do it for me. The new Dodge Ram is now a straight 6 TT. I think the V8 will hold value and new Tundra tech will have oit match Ford's hybrid engine that's been on market since 2021.
I wouldn’t say he mislead. I almost purchased a trd off road platinum. The dealership had a used one with 1500 miles on it that they were selling at $58k. So this tundra video is confirmation of that which is why I ordered a raptor.
@@wesharris0710k more ? In what make believe world are u living in ? Most raptors in my area n nation wide are an easy 100k or more everyday all day the highest tundra I see around here is just under 80k
The 5.7 has even more issues though. It is blowing head gaskets right and left which causing warping of the block and head. It also has oil leaks, oil pump failure, and air injection issues. I’d have no problems buying a 25 Tundra.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q My son and I have now just under 600,000 kms between us with not even an engine light coming on let alone any leaks. So I guess we are just lucky.
Yesterday a 2008 Tundra with 18K miles sold for $37K on BaT before their $1850 fee. Those old V8's are really hot commodities right now. I've got a 2018 with 19K miles on it. I think I will keep it until they put me in the ground!
15k negative equity AND YOU RECEIVED 7K OFF MSRP??? BAHAHAHA!....meanwhile....my frontier Pro 4x has ZERO negative equity. Toyota guys kill me! Guys.....get over it. Toyota is not what it used to be!
2014 Tundra TSS package (metallic gray) with a 6.5 foot bed. Double cab. All paid off and added: 2019 OEM LED headlights(complete housing) 46 gallon tank Brake controller Complete chrome delete with TRD grill Tri-fold hard tonneau cover safes under the back seat and center console Bilstein shocks and struts ( leveled) K&N intake Light bar inside front grill (Stealthy 🤓). 109,000 miles and kbb is saying $20,000 private party. I would never sell it at this point.
My 23 Raptor, exactly a year old is down 20k on wholesale with 1800 miles. Fortunately I didn't pay the ADM on it. 86k now valued 66k. I owe 38k and can pay it off anytime, so not concerned. If $$ comes up Id like to get the next gen Raptor with 37s. The R brought the Raptors down.
@@wesharris07 👍 Yeah, I bought exactly this time last year and they had about 5 Raptors on the lot with nobody coming in the doors. I was pretty lucky the 35 Raptors are generally 5k ADM and 37s are 10k ADM here in So Cal. The lowest offer I got in Nov last year was 2.5k ADM and was like you not paying an ADM on a 80k truck (I knew a Raptor below MSRP wasn't gonna happen and unrealistic here). I didn't need it and would wait. The next month they called me for MSRP on the one I wanted.
@ nice! I ordered mine from a dealership that one of the UA-camrs bought his ranger raptor at. Honestly I didn’t order it as an investment. Most vehicles are not an investment. I bought this truck because I wanted it and I got tired of talking myself out of a vehicle I really want and settle just to trade it in again. I don’t see myself getting rid of this truck for quite some time.
3 months already. Wow.. My trade-in value for my 2019 1794 with 39400 miles in excellent condition is 44-48k. I've owned my truck since 2020.. My girl is paid off..
Where are you seeing that trade value? I went to KBB and tried a bunch of different zip codes, using a fully-loaded 2019 1794 with 39k miles and in "Excellent" condition the range was more like $38-41k, but in all likelihood, unless you just put brand new tires on your truck and it needs zero reconditioning, it falls into the "Very Good" category which is more like $36-40k. I tried Texas, California, Florida, New York, and never saw anything near $44-48k for trade value. Even private party wasn't that high.
Anyone and everyone that owns a 2022-present Tundra is going to be underwater. The value on these is dropping like they are made by Land Rover. With every engine being replaced who the hell would want to buy one used? I know I would not. Just last month my 2021 TRD Pro double cab hit 61,000 miles and it was time to change out the transmission fluid ( I do a lot of towing), power steering fluid, brake fluid, and earlier this last spring at 50,000 I changed front and rear differential fluid, and engine coolant. Both times when I went into the dealer (June 2024) and (November 2024) they begged me to sell my truck. They offered me $52,000 in June and $52,550 in November. I could not believe it had gone up $550 in the offer in 6 months. They flat out told me they were struggling to sell the new trucks but had a 20 deep list of people willing to buy sight unseen 2.5 gen Tundra's. Now that is resale value! I told them absolutely no way would I sell the greatest 1/2 ton ever made. Honestly, I am scared at some point someone is going to steal my Tundra because of the demand for the 2.5 gen trucks.
@@TundraDude34 Magnetic grey. I wanted army green so bad which every Tundra in 2021 could get except the TRD Pro. I hated that requirement so bad because personally I just do not like Lunar Rock at all.
Drove by lot yesterday had a white 23 limited crew max with 40k miles asking 42, 499. Next to it was a 21 silver limited crew max with 42k miles and asking 43, 499.
My outlook is as long as you are happy and you really enjoy your truck value won't matter 😊...thanks for giving all us honest and accurate information Mark
You bought at the wrong time! Not just a time in the inflated market but a new generation that has major issues even if this generation were to go up 2024s and down would not be an ideal year to purchase. Thanks for the transparency tho
My 2020 SR5 TRD OFF Road DC has 54,000 miles on it now and I will be keeping it until Hell freezes over and the Devil straps on ice skates !! At 66 years of age, It very well may be the last truck I will have to buy. Could out last me !😁
True, if you didn't jump ship in the early days of the recall you're essentially screwed. Toyota really said let's have our ride and die people ride their bank accounts down with out reputation.
You should get values from multiple sources to get a better picture of the trade in value. I've sold vrhicles to Carmax, Carvana, etc... THe offers can vary widely by if they want it or not. If they don't have any you will get a higher offer than if they have a bunch of that vehicle. Your transparency is appreciated.
I bought a 2024 Limited crew max 4x4 back in August of this year it came with a 3 inch TRD lift from the factory , and I’m just loving this truck , just paid it off today and not looking to sell or trade it for at least 10-12 years. Honestly this may be my last truck I buy , because I know the next gen tundra will most likely be a full hybrid or electric and those I will not touch .
You bought it! As we all know cars and trucks are best bought 3-5 years old if you don’t mind buying used and cross your fingers 🤞🏼the original owner kept up with the maintenance and didn’t drive it hard. Personally I have a trust issue so I would have to buy new and face the reality that I’m driving in a depreciating vehicle that won’t see equity until 5-6 years later when I pay it off. With our economy coming back and interest rates getting lower. Just get exactly what new Tundra you want to keep and hopefully get low 1-2% APR like they did before. Of course buying cash will get you a better deal but that’s a lot of cash to invest in a depreciating asset.
I’m pretty much in the same boat I have a 24 1794 LE. My dealer offered me $60k. It stickers for $78k, I gave about $73k. I owe $30k so it’ll be fine. But it is a little depressing to loose $15k in value with in 6k miles. I wasn’t going to sell it, I just wanted to see what they would offer.
Good thing about your lease is you can turn back in at end of contract.and walk away.👍Or you can buy outright the value agreement on the truck. Good protection in our current environment 👍
With the supply out there, it doesn't surprise me. You got a deal which means plenty of others are getting deals. While sales are strong, supply clearly trumps demand by a long shot. The prices are just absolute insanity. I couldn't justify a new truck at this point. I'll just have to be content with my 17 Tundra. :)
'17 dble cab SR5 w/trd package, 110k miles, mid $20's value last I checked. Only thing I may trade it for is same truck 20 or 21 model year. Paid off long ago.
I am looking for a 2021 Tundra, and they seem to be as expensive as a newer version 23 or 24. My 22 Tacoma is holding its value very well, but I don’t see the newer model Tundras holding their values.
I buy Toyota/lexus because they hold their value so well. I bought a 2020 Camry hybrid. Put 30k miles on it. Sold it last month for $2,000 MORE than what I paid. In 2021, I sold my 2020 sequoia TRD PRO for $1,000 less than what I paid after putting 29k miles on it. I realize these examples are unusual because I think the Covid supply really screwed up used vehicle prices. But Toyotas are just great vehicles to buy for many reasons, including residual sales.
You are going to laugh but I bought a 2021 Sienna FWD XLE for $38,900 out the door with an MSRP of $42,000. Work was going to switch us out of company cars and pay us to drive our own and I had 2 older dogs, perfect vehicle for both. Carvana paid $49,700 for it at the end of 2021 with 8,000 miles on it. They sold it for $53,000! CRAZY COVID times. I'll never see that appreciation for a vehicle again. Now I have a 2018 Tundra as a result. LOL Also I am steering clear of any of Toyota's turbo vehicles until they regain their reliability and quality ratings again.
These new Tacomas and Tundras aren’t going to retain their crazy values like past generations. It’ll likely be the same for the 6th Gen 4runners and Land Cruiser. The quality and reliability just isn’t there. Be happy you leased it.
Theres no value being held. Trade in value for my 24 limited offroad was $50k the dealer said when i tried to get rid of it with 1200 miles 🤦♂️was $65k new trade in now is $50k. Thats a huge loss. Sounds like the same thing for your truck
A vehicle is NOT an investment. I have a 22 TRD PRO and I love mine. Ultimately that’s all I care about. Not to mention I own my truck so I’m not paying interest.
All vehicles are continuously depreciating assets. For however long you own them. You only have equity in the vehicle once it’s paid off. This Tundra with a 70k list price - which has lost 20k in three months - will continue to depreciate greater than what your pay off would be until you get near the very end of your loan term. Maybe the last year of your note. With that your transparency is to be applauded.
Great example, most new vehicles right now seem to be losing 30% from the moment of purchase. Glad you were able to get that 10% off msrp. Still crazy how much depreciation for a Toyota truck.
The 3rd gen Tacos hold their value really well. All the engine issues dont help Tundras resale value either. It is best to keep it and keep making those payments :)
Different subject for discussion: For those who own a 22-24 regular gas engine, do any of you have 1. A whirring noise when accelerating (45+ mph) 2. A light squeaky noise when turbo is engaged? I didn't hear any of these noises before hitting 1200 miles. Just wondering if these are any potential signs of engine failure.
Those are broken parts my guy. Mine had the same issues. I had to take it to 3 dealers until the tech finally realized fittings and things were broken. Shortly after that my window on the driver side stopped working and so did my ac compressor since all of the tube's disconnected.
It was later told to be affected by the recall. The moment I heard that I turned around and found another truck because I don't want a rebuilt engine on a new truck. I've said it before if you didn't jump ship earlier you're screwed. I got my 22 for 50 and a GMC dealer took it for 44k and I ended up getting a 24 Sierra 5.3. I only lost 6 k but I drove that tundra around a lot. By 20k I had engine knock. Good luck homie. Hopefully you can afford to keep it or afford another. I would jump ship.
@@mickeyyy007 Mine was built around June/July of 2024, which means majority if not all, engines from 24 are also faulty. It looks like they'll eventually extend the recall all the way to 24 models. I guess I'll put as much mileage as I can since they're gonna be putting in a brand new engine, not a rebuilt one. Sucks either way since the truck won't be the same because no technician can replace the engine like the way they do it at factories. Thanks for letting me know. At least I know what to expect. Unfortunately I couldn't find any other trucks I like.
My 2024 1794 has been sitting at the dealer since December 9. According to them they may have to do a short block replacement. Cylinder 5 is not looking good. 4813 miles on it.
I was surprised looking at one a couple months ago at the quality of the leather, I swear it’s the same pleather they use in random Camry… I really used to love Toyota but they’ve turned into GMC from 2003
I see a trend here..value doesnt hold on these, old gens value do hold, imagine value after u “hold onto for quite a long time” u would have just as much viewership if you had a 2012 paid off. Your 1794 is not bringing the views, its you and what you do. Great job on the channel, dump that burden while you can. You are in the 1794 because the Pro was too much of a financial burden right? This sounds like definition of insanity
A few things here, the 1794 has been bringing in the views big time since i got it. Go look back at every video i made regarding it over the past few months and you will see. Its actually the most viewed Tundra ive owned over the duration its been with me. I got rid of the Pro because AT THE TIME, it wasn’t worth paying what i was vs the interest in the trim at that point. Don’t worry about me brother, just keeping you guys updated through the ownership
Why's anyone surprised that you are underwater after 3 months on any car? Once all the recalls and issues are fixed, it will have better value retention. Too much negative press around it right now.
I sold my 22 offroad in 24 for a GMC, got the tundra for 52k, drove 50k miles and was affected by the recall and the dealer took it for 44. 6k for a unreliable truck for two years was enough. Btw i received my tundra with a bunch of broken parts. So glad i left this brand.
@@TundraDude34 Ugh.. I know it's a lease so really not your truck per se but does it mean you're not a believer in an early / break-in oil change at 800 / 1200 miles? Or have you decided not to do it precisely because.. it's a lease?
Good video man. Only the older tundras hold their value. The new ones tank worse than a f150. Ford and GM dealers in my area won’t even take them on trade in. Nobody wants them and the good old days are gone..sorry.
Liking my 23 4Runner, saved up and paid for new last year, I think it will hold its value better than the Tundra, No thank you for molten spinning blobs of metal under my hood, Mama always said if you can't pay for something when you buy it you can't afford it! vehicle payments are a curse don't do it!😇 Merle said best "I got no one left to blame but Mama tried Mama tried!"
if you’re leasing your vehicle, you should’ve kept your 2021 TRD pro army green which you probably would’ve owned outright by now and just rented tundras for your channel that’s in essence what you’re doing now
I have a family member who bought the 2022, 1794 package with every option and hybrid. Plus a huge markup because it was one of the first ones out. I know he is way over $100K into it. It’s a work truck and already been in a wreck. I bet he couldn’t get $30k for it.
I have the same Truck you have but in windchill pearl and I love it and I have 25,000 miles on it and I have 15,000 left to pay. It is a 2023 model with no recall.
For context, I own a 2013 single cab tundra trd supercharged, I also own a 2019 trd pro 4runner supercharged, when I saw where toyota was going I decided to upgrade my daily to a 2020 trd pro sequoia with a supercharger. These new toyotas are actually pretty terrible for being useful trucks, they get just as poop mpgs as the old ultra reliable 5.7 when towing or hauling, and without the option for a supercharger I feel they are overall a downgrade. 5.7 supercharged is ~515 hp ~550 ftlbstq
Wholesalers know these V6 Twins are horrible and won't hold value. The 5.7s in nice condition are actually gaining value because people want them especially Pros.
The markup is so high on new Tundras their resale values are going to be lower from here on out.. The same has been happening with the New generation Tacoma.
This is y I went with my 2022 tundra trd pro because of the value …has better value then all tundras my truck 2022 tundra trd pro has 22700 in excellent condition has a value on kbb 56450
Unless you got it on a good deal during 22 then you took a loss homie. Do you not remember that they were upcharged. That truck new was like 70k+, you're at 50 realistically with a 20k loss
Did you lease or finance? The sad reality is when Toyota got rid of the V8 a lot of people went to other brands that have a V8. Also Toyota was known to be basic and reliable. When they have to heavily discount vehicles they typically don’t hold the value as well. A perfect example is Ram
All them bad engines are hurting the new Tundra. I will keep my 17 with the 5.7 V8 with 67 thousand on it I don't wanna look up the value simply for setting off the Google spam lol
When you remove Toyota's reliability and quality reputation, other brands are better. This from a 2018 Tundra SR5 4x4 owner. When I replace it, it won't be the new Tundra since I'd have to buy an extended warranty for it as I would other brands. I didn't buy one on the 2018. On the positive side you are not seeing anything as bad as EV Truck depreciation. Keep it 10 years or more and not worry.
@@TundraDude34 No, no interest in them. I haven't driven any of the competition either because I am not in the market. Funny thing is my company provided "car" is a 2020 Chevy Silverado 2.7L Turbo 4 cylinder 1 wheel drive. It's ok but am surprised at the off the line power and is used as a commuter car. I have owned 2 ford Eco Boosts in the past. 2018 Expedition and 2022 Ford Edge ST. I am not buying any turbo vehicle in the future even though they have nice low RPM power. Too many things to go wrong on them. The main reason I sought out and purchased the 2018 last year. I wanted 10 year ownership truck with low repairs.
@@TundraDude34 new gen is so cheaply made when it comes to the body its not even funny. Whole front is one big plastic piece held up by plastic clips. Same goes for rear bumper and bed. On top of it they charge you $15K more for this crap when the production cost probably stayed the same (even with inflation) because they used cheaper solution for body parts.
When new on lot tundras are discounted by $10 grand used tundras drop big as well. New gen isn't holding value like the prior gens. Pin stripes on a truck drop the value by at least $3000. 😂
You bought a half ton pick up truck with a sticker price of 70K? let me ask you this, how much money have you earned using that truck?…..🤔 way too many people in this country have more dollars then sense. And if you have a 66K “note” on this vehicle…. GL to you….
Toyota has pretty much gone the way of GM and Ram. Sweet trucks but poorly built and poor QC. I'm a Toyota guy too! I bought a 2000 Limited new and kept it for 16 years. I had ZERO problems with it and it was a first year build too! Now look at Toyota! There more about building pretty over- tech trucks with cheap parts than building a quality long lasting, trouble free truck. A damn shame too!!!! Good luck guy with your truck and thanks for the information!
Toyota fanboys and apologists crack me up. They make it seem as if buying a Toyota truck is a great investment. The current Gen Tundra and Tacoma will go down as the worst yet. KBB and other sites that give you ESTIMATED value are useless. The value is only as great as what a buyer is willing to pay.
You only win if you drive it forever, proven by Gurus and Apostles of automotive truth. In most instances the cost of the repair is miniscule compared to the cost of a new vehicle if you have maintained your current vehicle.
Well , with all the problems, you knew this going in. Toyo USED to hold good value, better than others, but that is gone for now. I know you lease and write it off, but its still gonna cost you. You gonna pay for that new truck smell. Lately , that smell is not good.
Toyota always fixes their issues! Every model, every year. They improve them constantly. That’s why they last. Yes these recalls are a big one. It will be fine. I remeber the head gasket issues of the nineties of the 3.4l tacomas and 4 runners. I took mine in. The gave me 100 bucks and a loaner and turned it around in 2 days. Never had a problem after that. Those 3.4s are still getting 4-600k miles on them. American junk can’t touch that. In fact in Colorado my buddy who I pushed into a 2015 tundra from a beat up Chevy. Leased a limited for 3 years. He loved it. Sadly got a huge dent in the tail gate and hail damage which they only charged him 800 bucks when he turned it in. The dealer said had it not had damage they would have wrote him a check when he turned it in because the equity retained. NO AMERICAN VEHICLES HOLD VALUE LIKE THAT. I can go on and on with similar stories. Debt is dumb for sure. But a Toyota minimizes your risk. I ran a shop and was a tech for almost a decade. If only Toyotas existed, the shop wouldn’t exist
I have a 2023 platinum I bought new . I love it no problems yet. I have changed the oil 3-times its has 9000 miles on it. I think it’s better than my other 2006 tundra limited in every way.I had it for 11-years it got totaled hit in the rear by Simi. But the new one makes me feel better. I still miss my old one, though it was simple. The new ones have way too much stuff on them.😊❤😊
I’ve only had one Tundra that I traded with negative equity, and that one was the 23. Do you think I would make moves if I couldn’t financially? Give me a little credit now! 😁
Yeah this trucks are gonna be worse than dodge resale value, we have a 24 tundra 1794 hybrid getting a short block for spun bearing, Toyota probably extending the recall to 24’s once they sell the rest of them, if they actually want fix this mess, throw in the 5.7 back until they know what there doing with this small engines max out with turbos
@ you’ll start hearing knocking in the engine, I’m a Toyota tech, we’ve done more short blocks in the last year than 5.7 engines in the last 15year in the shop, hopefully re-values don’t get that bad, but if these engine don’t hold up, once warranty is out, customer out of pocket are gonna be steep, $25k range
I don’t see that as being a truck that holds its value.
No 2024+ vehicles will hold it's value. It's mental.
Lets hope i catch up at some point!
It use to be. Even mine I got for 62k from 77k platinum. and it’s upside down too. I put 10k down off my trade. Sad.
@@killabandit 🤕. They tried to sell me on a 2025 1794 CM with the hybrid engine.78900. I test drove a 2034 capstone. I was nice and fancy with all the nice tech but the TTV6 hybrid didn't do it for me. The new Dodge Ram is now a straight 6 TT. I think the V8 will hold value and new Tundra tech will have oit match Ford's hybrid engine that's been on market since 2021.
and you think your Dodge is going to hold it's value?
Thank you for not misleading us about the price and where the value is currently.
My job is to keep you informed on all aspect of this truck. Problems, value info, the good/bad and ugly.
I wouldn’t say he mislead. I almost purchased a trd off road platinum. The dealership had a used one with 1500 miles on it that they were selling at $58k. So this tundra video is confirmation of that which is why I ordered a raptor.
So you are willing to spend 20k more? You think the Raptor will hold its price?
@ it’s $10k more and yes they do.
@@wesharris0710k more ? In what make believe world are u living in ? Most raptors in my area n nation wide are an easy 100k or more everyday all day the highest tundra I see around here is just under 80k
If it wasn't for the engine issues I would already own a new one.
Going to have to stick with my proven 16 TRD PRO.
The 5.7 has even more issues though. It is blowing head gaskets right and left which causing warping of the block and head. It also has oil leaks, oil pump failure, and air injection issues. I’d have no problems buying a 25 Tundra.
@@user-tb7rn1il3qBS!!!!! Dont spread lies over this.
@user-tb7rn1il3q flush your coolant and you won't blow a head gasket.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q My son and I have now just under 600,000 kms between us with not even an engine light coming on let alone any leaks. So I guess we are just lucky.
@@danieljantz913can I just drain and fill? Or do I have to flush?? Dealer wants almost $500 to change. I bet they don’t flush.
I learn so much from your videos man.
Keep up the good work!
My 19 paid for! Yeah
No no no you mean 21 and under are known for holding their value
Lol pretty much
Yesterday a 2008 Tundra with 18K miles sold for $37K on BaT before their $1850 fee. Those old V8's are really hot commodities right now. I've got a 2018 with 19K miles on it. I think I will keep it until they put me in the ground!
Absolutely, the V8 values are insane
Because the new ones are so bad for now. The old ones are like a 2005 f150 inside.
15k negative equity AND YOU RECEIVED 7K OFF MSRP??? BAHAHAHA!....meanwhile....my frontier Pro 4x has ZERO negative equity. Toyota guys kill me! Guys.....get over it. Toyota is not what it used to be!
2023 n 2024 are actually Worse. Ain't risking the need to buy a new engine!
Nissan is about to be Honda. So you might be driving the last generation of real trucks
Toyota took a quality nosedive beginning in 22
Must be on Toyota's payroll he's always pushing these Tundras even though 24 and 25 models are still having engine problems and grenading
@johnwest2396 yea, wtf want to risk buying a new engine after warranty
2014 Tundra TSS package (metallic gray) with a 6.5 foot bed. Double cab. All paid off and added:
2019 OEM LED headlights(complete housing)
46 gallon tank
Brake controller
Complete chrome delete with TRD grill
Tri-fold hard tonneau cover
safes under the back seat and center console
Bilstein shocks and struts ( leveled)
K&N intake
Light bar inside front grill (Stealthy 🤓).
109,000 miles and kbb is saying $20,000 private party.
I would never sell it at this point.
As long as you love it doesn’t matter
Exactly!
F150 raptor is the leading 1/2 ton to hold its value. Ram TRX is up there as well. But no matter the level of raptor it holds its value.
Definitely. TRD Pro is the same. The specialty trims always do great.
My 23 Raptor, exactly a year old is down 20k on wholesale with 1800 miles. Fortunately I didn't pay the ADM on it. 86k now valued 66k. I owe 38k and can pay it off anytime, so not concerned.
If $$ comes up Id like to get the next gen Raptor with 37s. The R brought the Raptors down.
@ ya I’m not paying any markup either.
@@wesharris07 👍 Yeah, I bought exactly this time last year and they had about 5 Raptors on the lot with nobody coming in the doors. I was pretty lucky the 35 Raptors are generally 5k ADM and 37s are 10k ADM here in So Cal. The lowest offer I got in Nov last year was 2.5k ADM and was like you not paying an ADM on a 80k truck (I knew a Raptor below MSRP wasn't gonna happen and unrealistic here). I didn't need it and would wait. The next month they called me for MSRP on the one I wanted.
@ nice! I ordered mine from a dealership that one of the UA-camrs bought his ranger raptor at. Honestly I didn’t order it as an investment. Most vehicles are not an investment. I bought this truck because I wanted it and I got tired of talking myself out of a vehicle I really want and settle just to trade it in again. I don’t see myself getting rid of this truck for quite some time.
3 months already. Wow.. My trade-in value for my 2019 1794 with 39400 miles in excellent condition is 44-48k. I've owned my truck since 2020.. My girl is paid off..
Where are you seeing that trade value? I went to KBB and tried a bunch of different zip codes, using a fully-loaded 2019 1794 with 39k miles and in "Excellent" condition the range was more like $38-41k, but in all likelihood, unless you just put brand new tires on your truck and it needs zero reconditioning, it falls into the "Very Good" category which is more like $36-40k.
I tried Texas, California, Florida, New York, and never saw anything near $44-48k for trade value. Even private party wasn't that high.
Anyone and everyone that owns a 2022-present Tundra is going to be underwater. The value on these is dropping like they are made by Land Rover. With every engine being replaced who the hell would want to buy one used? I know I would not.
Just last month my 2021 TRD Pro double cab hit 61,000 miles and it was time to change out the transmission fluid ( I do a lot of towing), power steering fluid, brake fluid, and earlier this last spring at 50,000 I changed front and rear differential fluid, and engine coolant.
Both times when I went into the dealer (June 2024) and (November 2024) they begged me to sell my truck. They offered me $52,000 in June and $52,550 in November. I could not believe it had gone up $550 in the offer in 6 months. They flat out told me they were struggling to sell the new trucks but had a 20 deep list of people willing to buy sight unseen 2.5 gen Tundra's. Now that is resale value!
I told them absolutely no way would I sell the greatest 1/2 ton ever made. Honestly, I am scared at some point someone is going to steal my Tundra because of the demand for the 2.5 gen trucks.
What color 21 pro do you have?
@@TundraDude34 Magnetic grey. I wanted army green so bad which every Tundra in 2021 could get except the TRD Pro. I hated that requirement so bad because personally I just do not like Lunar Rock at all.
Cant go wrong with mag grey
I worry about that theft thing also with 5.7L being so sought after.
Drove by lot yesterday had a white 23 limited crew max with 40k miles asking 42, 499. Next to it was a 21 silver limited crew max with 42k miles and asking 43, 499.
My outlook is as long as you are happy and you really enjoy your truck value won't matter 😊...thanks for giving all us honest and accurate information Mark
You bought at the wrong time! Not just a time in the inflated market but a new generation that has major issues even if this generation were to go up 2024s and down would not be an ideal year to purchase. Thanks for the transparency tho
My 2020 SR5 TRD OFF Road DC has 54,000 miles on it now and I will be keeping it until Hell freezes over and the Devil straps on ice skates !!
At 66 years of age, It very well may be the last truck I will have to buy.
Could out last me !😁
I would agree.
I always wonder what kind of skates satan would buy
@TundraDude34 The Devil doesn't buy his skates. He takes them from people who didn't buy Toyota trucks!
I was thinking CCM Tacks 🤣
I’m 72, on my 3rd Tundra, 2020 DC Sport the latest, don’t want the V6 Turbo, won’t buy one. Might just ride mine into the sunset…..
Oh wow and that made you happy. I’m happy for you.
So happy I made the choice to order a 21 Pro, 22 and up Tundra pricing is pretty wild.
My 2020 1794, 41,293 miles, paid off kbb says trade in 42,354
Great content!
Keep grinding
Fill the void
You wont never catch up, after 18 months the truck will be worth even less. Tundra’s are ridiculously over priced for what you get.
True, if you didn't jump ship in the early days of the recall you're essentially screwed. Toyota really said let's have our ride and die people ride their bank accounts down with out reputation.
Are the other manufacturers any different?
@vitkobylka6432 so far I've had a way more pleasant experience with GMC in the short 6 months than toyota has given me in the last 10 years.
My 21 AG w/ 28k miles is paid off. Keepin it forever. Wouldnt have a full size truck w/ a v6, ever never ever never lol. Luv my 21
21 sr5 20k miles. Owe 25k trade in 35k. Saw a pearl 1794 today at the dealership looked sexy as hell but I’ll keep my 21 for sure
You should get values from multiple sources to get a better picture of the trade in value. I've sold vrhicles to Carmax, Carvana, etc... THe offers can vary widely by if they want it or not. If they don't have any you will get a higher offer than if they have a bunch of that vehicle. Your transparency is appreciated.
Its just a general idea of value. At the dealership, its always a different story. I use KBB for consistency purposes
I bought a 2024 Limited crew max 4x4 back in August of this year it came with a 3 inch TRD lift from the factory , and I’m just loving this truck , just paid it off today and not looking to sell or trade it for at least 10-12 years. Honestly this may be my last truck I buy , because I know the next gen tundra will most likely be a full hybrid or electric and those I will not touch .
You bought it! As we all know cars and trucks are best bought 3-5 years old if you don’t mind buying used and cross your fingers 🤞🏼the original owner kept up with the maintenance and didn’t drive it hard.
Personally I have a trust issue so I would have to buy new and face the reality that I’m driving in a depreciating vehicle that won’t see equity until 5-6 years later when I pay it off.
With our economy coming back and interest rates getting lower. Just get exactly what new Tundra you want to keep and hopefully get low 1-2% APR like they did before. Of course buying cash will get you a better deal but that’s a lot of cash to invest in a depreciating asset.
In my area, 21’s are holding value much better than 22 on.
I’m pretty much in the same boat I have a 24 1794 LE. My dealer offered me $60k. It stickers for $78k, I gave about $73k. I owe $30k so it’ll be fine. But it is a little depressing to loose $15k in value with in 6k miles. I wasn’t going to sell it, I just wanted to see what they would offer.
Long live the Gen 2.5 pre safety sense!
'21 Tundra Platinum. Bought new for $50K, owe nothing. Whoop! (Love it btw)
My uncle was an air traffic controller, now teaches the new systems to the up and comers 😁
Good thing about your lease is you can turn back in at end of contract.and walk away.👍Or you can buy outright the value agreement on the truck. Good protection in our current environment 👍
With the supply out there, it doesn't surprise me. You got a deal which means plenty of others are getting deals. While sales are strong, supply clearly trumps demand by a long shot. The prices are just absolute insanity. I couldn't justify a new truck at this point. I'll just have to be content with my 17 Tundra. :)
Nothing wrong with a 2017! 😁
I would image that a 2017 Tundra would still last you another 200K to 300K miles.
@@bobby3944 I ran my 07 to 160k or so and it was going very strong. I have 85k on this one. It will likely outlast my contentment with it. LOL
@@ProCoach2373 I understand. That is why I traded my 2010 for a 2021. It is nice to know they will last for a very long time if you need it though.
'17 dble cab SR5 w/trd package, 110k miles, mid $20's value last I checked. Only thing I may trade it for is same truck 20 or 21 model year. Paid off long ago.
I am looking for a 2021 Tundra, and they seem to be as expensive as a newer version 23 or 24. My 22 Tacoma is holding its value very well, but I don’t see the newer model Tundras holding their values.
23 Limited with roughly 19k miles with a trade in value of $45K. Bought it for $63K in November of 22.
I buy Toyota/lexus because they hold their value so well. I bought a 2020 Camry hybrid. Put 30k miles on it. Sold it last month for $2,000 MORE than what I paid.
In 2021, I sold my 2020 sequoia TRD PRO for $1,000 less than what I paid after putting 29k miles on it. I realize these examples are unusual because I think the Covid supply really screwed up used vehicle prices. But Toyotas are just great vehicles to buy for many reasons, including residual sales.
Yea man, covid trade in values were crazy
You are going to laugh but I bought a 2021 Sienna FWD XLE for $38,900 out the door with an MSRP of $42,000. Work was going to switch us out of company cars and pay us to drive our own and I had 2 older dogs, perfect vehicle for both. Carvana paid $49,700 for it at the end of 2021 with 8,000 miles on it. They sold it for $53,000! CRAZY COVID times. I'll never see that appreciation for a vehicle again. Now I have a 2018 Tundra as a result. LOL Also I am steering clear of any of Toyota's turbo vehicles until they regain their reliability and quality ratings again.
@ made about $10k on a vehicle you drove for a year. Definitely crazy times that we’ll likely never see again.
These new Tacomas and Tundras aren’t going to retain their crazy values like past generations. It’ll likely be the same for the 6th Gen 4runners and Land Cruiser. The quality and reliability just isn’t there. Be happy you leased it.
Theres no value being held. Trade in value for my 24 limited offroad was $50k the dealer said when i tried to get rid of it with 1200 miles 🤦♂️was $65k new trade in now is $50k. Thats a huge loss. Sounds like the same thing for your truck
I thought that was kind of the rule, you lose 30% on any new vehicle as soon as you drive it off the lot?
My local toyota dealerships lot is loaded with trucks now. It was empty for the last 3 years.
Hi Mark, I guess you could compare trucks from the big 3 and really see how the Tundra is holding up.
A vehicle is NOT an investment. I have a 22 TRD PRO and I love mine. Ultimately that’s all I care about. Not to mention I own my truck so I’m not paying interest.
All vehicles are continuously depreciating assets. For however long you own them. You only have equity in the vehicle once it’s paid off. This Tundra with a 70k list price - which has lost 20k in three months - will continue to depreciate greater than what your pay off would be until you get near the very end of your loan term. Maybe the last year of your note. With that your transparency is to be applauded.
Great example, most new vehicles right now seem to be losing 30% from the moment of purchase. Glad you were able to get that 10% off msrp. Still crazy how much depreciation for a Toyota truck.
What it would cost to replace is how you should value it if you bought it to have/use. The spread on cars is massive right now
The 3rd gen Tacos hold their value really well. All the engine issues dont help Tundras resale value either. It is best to keep it and keep making those payments :)
I really like the 1794 trim
Me too 👍🏼
They need to put a V8 back into the trucks !!
Different subject for discussion: For those who own a 22-24 regular gas engine, do any of you have 1. A whirring noise when accelerating (45+ mph) 2. A light squeaky noise when turbo is engaged? I didn't hear any of these noises before hitting 1200 miles. Just wondering if these are any potential signs of engine failure.
Those are broken parts my guy. Mine had the same issues. I had to take it to 3 dealers until the tech finally realized fittings and things were broken. Shortly after that my window on the driver side stopped working and so did my ac compressor since all of the tube's disconnected.
It was later told to be affected by the recall. The moment I heard that I turned around and found another truck because I don't want a rebuilt engine on a new truck. I've said it before if you didn't jump ship earlier you're screwed. I got my 22 for 50 and a GMC dealer took it for 44k and I ended up getting a 24 Sierra 5.3. I only lost 6 k but I drove that tundra around a lot. By 20k I had engine knock. Good luck homie. Hopefully you can afford to keep it or afford another. I would jump ship.
Also if you didn't pay it off like most people did you're gonna be at a loss. I only owed like 6k on that truck. So yeah
@@mickeyyy007 Mine was built around June/July of 2024, which means majority if not all, engines from 24 are also faulty. It looks like they'll eventually extend the recall all the way to 24 models. I guess I'll put as much mileage as I can since they're gonna be putting in a brand new engine, not a rebuilt one. Sucks either way since the truck won't be the same because no technician can replace the engine like the way they do it at factories. Thanks for letting me know. At least I know what to expect. Unfortunately I couldn't find any other trucks I like.
My 2024 1794 has been sitting at the dealer since December 9. According to them they may have to do a short block replacement. Cylinder 5 is not looking good. 4813 miles on it.
Keep us updated!
Yes, please keep us updated. I’m in the queue with my ‘23 1794.
@tedolsen6251 wow! That's crazy hope it goes smooth.
Try to fight for a long block, if they’re doing that for others they should do it for you.
I have the 1794 LIMITED EDITION and I can't find anything on the value, please see what is out there in a future episode.
22 Silverado LT TB 30k miles. Owe 24k and worth 45k. Purchased the truck 8 months ago
I was surprised looking at one a couple months ago at the quality of the leather, I swear it’s the same pleather they use in random Camry… I really used to love Toyota but they’ve turned into GMC from 2003
I see a trend here..value doesnt hold on these, old gens value do hold, imagine value after u “hold onto for quite a long time” u would have just as much viewership if you had a 2012 paid off. Your 1794 is not bringing the views, its you and what you do. Great job on the channel, dump that burden while you can. You are in the 1794 because the Pro was too much of a financial burden right? This sounds like definition of insanity
A few things here, the 1794 has been bringing in the views big time since i got it. Go look back at every video i made regarding it over the past few months and you will see. Its actually the most viewed Tundra ive owned over the duration its been with me. I got rid of the Pro because AT THE TIME, it wasn’t worth paying what i was vs the interest in the trim at that point. Don’t worry about me brother, just keeping you guys updated through the ownership
Why's anyone surprised that you are underwater after 3 months on any car? Once all the recalls and issues are fixed, it will have better value retention. Too much negative press around it right now.
I think its more the amount under. But it will come back to the surface as time passes (i hope 😂)
@TundraDude34 My 2022 GX holds its value like crazy but I was still underwater the first yr. It seems pretty normal to me.
2020 sr5 crewmax trd off road 66,000 miles. paid $45,000 new kbb trade in vale is $36,000
I thought you were leasing it? How can you be underwater on a lease? Unless you paid more than msrp at time of purchase.
Yes i am leasing it, but im showing you what is owed (if i buyout or trade) vs what it is worth through the ownership
Mine is $61,367 trade-in value I paid $63,050 I owe $0.00 😂 cash is king baby
I sold my 22 offroad in 24 for a GMC, got the tundra for 52k, drove 50k miles and was affected by the recall and the dealer took it for 44. 6k for a unreliable truck for two years was enough. Btw i received my tundra with a bunch of broken parts. So glad i left this brand.
Did you get an oil change yet?
I love my 1794! Roughly 700 miles now on it about 1 month in!
Next month, its going in for a 5k oil change and an attempt to correct the fit and finish stuff
@@TundraDude34 Ugh.. I know it's a lease so really not your truck per se but does it mean you're not a believer in an early / break-in oil change at 800 / 1200 miles? Or have you decided not to do it precisely because.. it's a lease?
Nice value. Its doesn’t matter. It’s going to last for a very long time. Plus the CHROME is free! -Chromedog
Happy Holidays!
Hey bud! Happy holidays!
Good video man. Only the older tundras hold their value. The new ones tank worse than a f150. Ford and GM dealers in my area won’t even take them on trade in. Nobody wants them and the good old days are gone..sorry.
Leasing new vehicles is better than buying a new one
Liking my 23 4Runner, saved up and paid for new last year, I think it will hold its value better than the Tundra, No thank you for molten spinning blobs of metal under my hood, Mama always said if you can't pay for something when you buy it you can't afford it! vehicle payments are a curse don't do it!😇 Merle said best "I got no one left to blame but Mama tried Mama tried!"
if you’re leasing your vehicle, you should’ve kept your 2021 TRD pro army green which you probably would’ve owned outright by now and just rented tundras for your channel that’s in essence what you’re doing now
I have a family member who bought the 2022, 1794 package with every option and hybrid. Plus a huge markup because it was one of the first ones out. I know he is way over $100K into it. It’s a work truck and already been in a wreck. I bet he couldn’t get $30k for it.
The markup and wreck will certainly not help!
I have the same Truck you have but in windchill pearl and I love it and I have 25,000 miles on it and I have 15,000 left to pay. It is a 2023 model with no recall.
For context, I own a 2013 single cab tundra trd supercharged, I also own a 2019 trd pro 4runner supercharged, when I saw where toyota was going I decided to upgrade my daily to a 2020 trd pro sequoia with a supercharger. These new toyotas are actually pretty terrible for being useful trucks, they get just as poop mpgs as the old ultra reliable 5.7 when towing or hauling, and without the option for a supercharger I feel they are overall a downgrade. 5.7 supercharged is ~515 hp ~550 ftlbstq
Take it to Carmax and see what they say
KBB in my experience has always been on the very low end
Wholesalers know these V6 Twins are horrible and won't hold value. The 5.7s in nice condition are actually gaining value because people want them especially Pros.
The markup is so high on new Tundras their resale values are going to be lower from here on out.. The same has been happening with the New generation Tacoma.
Brother you STARTED underwater with this...and went 1794 foot deeper than you were....😮
And i couldn’t be happier 😁
This is y I went with my 2022 tundra trd pro because of the value …has better value then all tundras my truck 2022 tundra trd pro has 22700 in excellent condition has a value on kbb 56450
Unless you got it on a good deal during 22 then you took a loss homie. Do you not remember that they were upcharged. That truck new was like 70k+, you're at 50 realistically with a 20k loss
Its common to be underwater for the first year or 2.
It was known to hold its value. Not sure that’s true anymore
Did you lease or finance? The sad reality is when Toyota got rid of the V8 a lot of people went to other brands that have a V8. Also Toyota was known to be basic and reliable. When they have to heavily discount vehicles they typically don’t hold the value as well. A perfect example is Ram
Sales are way up on the 22 Tundra compared to the 2nd gen. In fact this years sales are slated to be the best since 2007.
2024 is the 2nd best sales year ever for Tundra. 07 will still be #1
All them bad engines are hurting the new Tundra. I will keep my 17 with the 5.7 V8 with 67 thousand on it
I don't wanna look up the value simply for setting off the Google spam lol
Anyone who thinks a half ton gasser is worth paying $66,000 dollars for is delusional.....
I guess a lot of us our delusional than 😁
Holy crap… 2021 TRD Pro. 16000 miles, could probably get 60K
Trade in, probably high 40s/low 50s. Honest dealer would sell for 55-57
Wow. Thats plummeted!! And thats a 24 1794. If that was a V8 I guarantee it would be higher!! Higher by 5-7k!
When you remove Toyota's reliability and quality reputation, other brands are better. This from a 2018 Tundra SR5 4x4 owner. When I replace it, it won't be the new Tundra since I'd have to buy an extended warranty for it as I would other brands. I didn't buy one on the 2018.
On the positive side you are not seeing anything as bad as EV Truck depreciation.
Keep it 10 years or more and not worry.
Hi there, question, have you driven the new gen Tundra yet?
@@TundraDude34 No, no interest in them. I haven't driven any of the competition either because I am not in the market. Funny thing is my company provided "car" is a 2020 Chevy Silverado 2.7L Turbo 4 cylinder 1 wheel drive. It's ok but am surprised at the off the line power and is used as a commuter car. I have owned 2 ford Eco Boosts in the past. 2018 Expedition and 2022 Ford Edge ST. I am not buying any turbo vehicle in the future even though they have nice low RPM power. Too many things to go wrong on them. The main reason I sought out and purchased the 2018 last year. I wanted 10 year ownership truck with low repairs.
@@TundraDude34 new gen is so cheaply made when it comes to the body its not even funny. Whole front is one big plastic piece held up by plastic clips. Same goes for rear bumper and bed. On top of it they charge you $15K more for this crap when the production cost probably stayed the same (even with inflation) because they used cheaper solution for body parts.
When new on lot tundras are discounted by $10 grand used tundras drop big as well. New gen isn't holding value like the prior gens.
Pin stripes on a truck drop the value by at least $3000. 😂
You say you’ll be in it for a long time. Will you still be in it after your engine takes a 💩, which is highly likely?
Think of the content potential 😁
Put a new motor in it yet😮??
No sir. So far, Engine is running strong
Buy new? Drop your shorts.
You bought a half ton pick up truck with a sticker price of 70K? let me ask you this, how much money have you earned using that truck?…..🤔 way too many people in this country have more dollars then sense. And if you have a 66K “note” on this vehicle…. GL to you….
Toyota has pretty much gone the way of GM and Ram. Sweet trucks but poorly built and poor QC. I'm a Toyota guy too! I bought a 2000 Limited new and kept it for 16 years. I had ZERO problems with it and it was a first year build too! Now look at Toyota! There more about building pretty over- tech trucks with cheap parts than building a quality long lasting, trouble free truck. A damn shame too!!!!
Good luck guy with your truck and thanks for the information!
Toyota fanboys and apologists crack me up. They make it seem as if buying a Toyota truck is a great investment.
The current Gen Tundra and Tacoma will go down as the worst yet.
KBB and other sites that give you ESTIMATED value are useless. The value is only as great as what a buyer is willing to pay.
Vehicles are depreciating assets
Yes sir, but i’m still going to update the value throughout the ownership
You only win if you drive it forever, proven by Gurus and Apostles of automotive truth. In most instances the cost of the repair is miniscule compared to the cost of a new vehicle if you have maintained your current vehicle.
Well , with all the problems, you knew this going in. Toyo USED to hold good value, better than others, but that is gone for now. I know you lease and write it off, but its still gonna cost you. You gonna pay for that new truck smell. Lately , that smell is not good.
that kbb value is right where I paid for my new to me 2023 1794. They had it listed at 55K with 8k miles on the odometer.
Toyota always fixes their issues! Every model, every year. They improve them constantly. That’s why they last. Yes these recalls are a big one. It will be fine. I remeber the head gasket issues of the nineties of the 3.4l tacomas and 4 runners. I took mine in. The gave me 100 bucks and a loaner and turned it around in 2 days. Never had a problem after that. Those 3.4s are still getting 4-600k miles on them. American junk can’t touch that. In fact in Colorado my buddy who I pushed into a 2015 tundra from a beat up Chevy. Leased a limited for 3 years. He loved it. Sadly got a huge dent in the tail gate and hail damage which they only charged him 800 bucks when he turned it in. The dealer said had it not had damage they would have wrote him a check when he turned it in because the equity retained. NO AMERICAN VEHICLES HOLD VALUE LIKE THAT. I can go on and on with similar stories. Debt is dumb for sure. But a Toyota minimizes your risk. I ran a shop and was a tech for almost a decade. If only Toyotas existed, the shop wouldn’t exist
I have a 2023 platinum I bought new . I love it no problems yet. I have changed the oil 3-times its has 9000 miles on it. I think it’s better than my other 2006 tundra limited in every way.I had it for 11-years it got totaled hit in the rear by Simi. But the new one makes me feel better. I still miss my old one, though it was simple. The new ones have way too much stuff on them.😊❤😊
This new V6 not helping Toyota hell dodge is bringing da v8 back
@TundraDude34, the new Tundra V6 truck is a gamble with the dice
I live close to Atlantic City, im ready 🤣
Shame Toyota tarnished their reputation of being reliable.
Do you make enough from this channel to justify all the money that is lost on trading in your depreciated Tundras?
I’ve only had one Tundra that I traded with negative equity, and that one was the 23. Do you think I would make moves if I couldn’t financially? Give me a little credit now! 😁
3 months in and trying to dump a tundra. It's a piece of junk. Keep it and hopefully you're engine doesn't puke out.
It no way am I trying to “dump” my Tundra. I give updates through ownership, including value check ins.
But then I’d have to buy something else 😢
That’s a huge loss in 3 months, wow…..
I hope the climb back to even starts soon! Lol
@@TundraDude34 LOL Good luck!
@ I hope so too for you .. sadly vehicles depreciate .... however, Toyota is about the best you can do for resale value... best wishes
Yeah this trucks are gonna be worse than dodge resale value, we have a 24 tundra 1794 hybrid getting a short block for spun bearing, Toyota probably extending the recall to 24’s once they sell the rest of them, if they actually want fix this mess, throw in the 5.7 back until they know what there doing with this small engines max out with turbos
Did you have any warning signs it was going bad? Doubt it will be worse than rams.
@ you’ll start hearing knocking in the engine, I’m a Toyota tech, we’ve done more short blocks in the last year than 5.7 engines in the last 15year in the shop, hopefully re-values don’t get that bad, but if these engine don’t hold up, once warranty is out, customer out of pocket are gonna be steep, $25k range