Professor Victor Von Hellfire being arched by red death would be the perfect combination of awesomely intense fighting and highly courteous professional relationships outside of office hours
@@MantaRaydiated They would go to each others cookouts. Babysit each others kid. God help you if you threatened the other ones family during an Arch. They would need a bucket and mop for any sort of funeral or last rights.
Unfortunately, I think Victor is in a entirely different league than Red Death, seeing as red deaths only super power is a flying horse and the ability to channel Liam Neeson whereas Victors superpower is the ability to fly, conjure hellfire from his hands, and being composed of some form of metal.
An invincible flame throwing metal flying super genius is a Level 5? Either the rating system is broken, or dude can hide his power level better than Krillin.
Plus the guy doesn't seem to have a base of operations or even some super science stuff to steal. He is just a regular teacher who happens to be related to that world's version of Dr. Doom. Reputation, henchmen, lair and vehicle are also counted in the Guild Ranking system. If he had those, coupled with his reputation he would probably be a level 9 or 10. Also he may refuse to participate and thus stay at 5. If he was a 10 he would have to fight Red Death or similar every week and that would take away from his humanitarian work, which he seems to value more than playing superhero in costume.
Equally matched AGRESSION. He says “I’m not gonna fight you” lol. He probably wouldn’t have if his students weren’t endangered. Personal Hygene might be a factor though...probably smells like plants and chalk.
It's probably because he's not really involved in the whole super science/superhero/supervillain world. He's probably just there because of his father. The guy has a pretty normal life except for the superpowers
I'd just like to remind everyone that the Monarch's last arch was a doctor specialising in hemmeroid removal. It's understandable he'd make this kind of mistake. And hilarious.
He's also got a severe lack of resources, it seems, which also is counted. He's got no backup, no fortress, no super science lab, etc. If Monarch came prepared he could basically run circles around the guy and denying him a straight fight
Kate Grant The problem is that he seems to want to have a more normal life and not show off his powers. If he used his super powers he could probably be a level 7 or 8 on his own. Let's see just based on this scene he has as least a higher state of invulnerability that could probably stop bullets. He can shoot out exploding fire balls from his hand and finally he can fly or levitate. So far one of the few stronger villains shown would be Red Death. Remember he is a 10.
I love how he was completely and utterly ok with being threatened, attacked, assaulted, insulted, but the moment his student was put as risk, the gloves (and skin) come right off.
I love the idea of the son of a big time Silver Age villain getting a regular job even though he's also a high-level power. He's Scott Evil all grown up and got over his daddy issues.
Awww. But yeah. I would TOTALLY buy that comic! Seriously, in a world of superheroes and supervillains, here's a guy, father a villain, himself granted powers, just living an ordinary life. And occasionally someone comes to him for a "thwarting" or something! That would definitely be a fun little one-off! (I'd actually be curious as to how they'd make that into a continuing series, probably having to rely on what's happening hero/villain-wise in the background, at least to keep it from getting stale.)
The Monarch needs to stop getting paired with bad fits. Dr Dugong & that one random doctor gut were way too low level to be his arch, while JJ & Von Hellfire were way too strong. Hell, when Sgt Hatred was packing heat, Rusty was a bad match because his troops were under-equipped for handling guns. At least Samson mostly stuck to melee...
It is tough JJ played it straight. What I mean is that he was honest and genuinely a good guy. So if the Monarch managed to out maneuver him through deception he may beat JJ, but otherwise JJ would stomp him.
Also Dr. Hellfire is probably only a level 4 arch because he does not want to show off his power. If he would go all out he would probably be a level or two under Red Death.
Several Treaty of Tolerance Violations here: (According to the Guild of Calamitous Intents' own PR video): 1) Disrespecting personal boundaries. The Monarch attacks in the middle of class on a college campus, putting young students at risk. That's got to be a big treaty violation right there. 2) Physically attacking an arch who refuses to engage with you. One of these guys , either Hellfire or the Monarch, is in violation of the arching rules. You either sign up for the rules and play by them, or you don't. 3) Taking civilian hostages not part of the arching pact. 4) Extreme mismatch of power levels. First, Monarch chooses an arch that lives underwater and collects.......cuttlefish. Next, he takes on an arch that could best the most powerful villain in the Guild. Does the Monarch do any research at All when choosing an arch, and for that matter, does the Guild even review the matches before approving them?? Guess I'd better send in my resume as an arch coordinator......
On point 4 isn't it equally matched 'aggression' - not power? Power is a factor, but things like Henchmen, money, technology, they all count too, and Victor Von Helping is A: on a teachers budget and B: not exactly stocking up on such things. The system probably wasn't really designed for situations like this one, where somebody was (most likely) signed up non-consensually and only counts as a level 5 from power alone.
There's always going to be politics in play, from humiliating your competition to brushing over minor violations for your own convenience to outright breaking rules because you want to. When you give supervillains clout, some are going to use it to break as many rules as they think they can get away with, and the same goes for "super scientists" like Jonas.
@@Ahandsomeface yeah I'm with you on that one, I mean he throws fire balls at people and he can melt any thing or anyone into a pile of molten crap or something.
As someone that likes Dr. Doom. I seriously would read a comic with Victor Von Hellfire and I thought Red Death was awesome. I hope that it turns out he is a crown prince of some fictional western european country in exile.
I like how the biggest baddasses (Professor Avon Hellfire, Red Death, etc) are only really legitimately pissed if you go after the innocents around them like their students or family.
@@campfortson4387 Brock killed a bartender for making a joke about his mullet, he was just bloodthirsty and looking for any reason to kill a guy Late season Brock might care though
Because she didn't want Monarch to kill Sunshine, so it was either Sunshine Beam so Monarch loses an actual fight, or hope and pray he doesn't kill Sunshine like he did Wonder Boy
He was actually given a folder with his backstort, Hellfire is the son of a villain and his dad wanted him to follow in his foot steps but decided to become some liberal weenie professor, either way its awesome that he's just the reverse of Dr.doom.
Oh a perfect example, it's like when you look at famously neutral nations like Sweden or Switzerland... Then you see how big their military is. Being reluctant to fight is not the same as not knowing how.
@@JamesTobiasStewart The story goes that a German officer was in Switzerland on vacation. While there, he met a man who happened to also be an officer in the Swiss army. While talking, the German jokingly asked "The German army is twice as strong as the Swiss army. What would you do if Germany invaded Switzerland?" The Swiss officer replied, in all seriousness, "Shoot twice and go home."
well he is the son of a supervillain, if he could choose he would probably want something more relatable. But it is his given name and when he is angry I tells you just how much he is going to ruin your day
@@KaaneDragonShinobi true. but threaten his students and he will let you know his true name and true face and all will know him and... I mean thank you for come today class
@@funkmantim2661 I can totally see that. Red: you know i was thinking my cute Ragamuffin could be quite the botanist when she grows up, but honestly i just wanna see her excel at anything that she puts he mind too...* has Victor in headlock* whatcha think Victor: honestly.... it's good to see a dad be as openminded but really, if you wanted to talk we could've done this more civilized. Red: Yeah i know this seemed like a good idea at the time... Victor: ugh... fine i'll feed into it...* throws a fireball in Red's face* i mean i get you want to think about her future...but you might be going TOO far ahead, she's what...1st grade 2nd grade? Red: yeah but things can happen...might get her mother's brains and be in college at 14... Victor: wait your wife went to college at 14...? Red: No...but she is as intelligent as she is beautiful.
I don't think it would be much of an arching. Red is a strict professional and would not endanger an innocent for the sake of an arching since, much like his own family, he would see it as "out of bounds" while Victor's physical nature would make him impervious to traditional combat and his emotional nature leaves very little exploit. Neither would benefit from the process so it'd be a total wash (plus since Victor is only considered a 5, due to his pacifism, it'd be too under Red's radar to even bother)
who knows? This show has been an instant classic since it first started, there's a lot that should be done to get them bigger and I think a comic would definitely be a great way to go
Here's how I'd imagine if Red Death arched the Professor (I'm just calling him professor cuz his name is pretty long: *Red Death charges into the class on his steed* Red Death: *in his villainous voice* "Professor I have come for you Mwahahaha!" Professor: "Could you wait ten minutes, I'm just finishing a class?" Red Death *in his normal voice* "Oh sure I can wait, I'll just wait around the campus square in the meantime." *flies out through the hole in the window* *They eventually meet in the college campus square and commence a battle of epic proportions, then after some time an alarm on Red Death's watch goes off.* Red Death: "Oh quitting time already, want to grab a coffee?" Professor: *in their metallic endoskeleton* "Sure, I think the campus coffee place is still open this time of day and I'll pay if you want?" Red Death: "Great... I think the wife and I are hoping our daughter can go to this college in the future... Looks quite promising for my special girl." [SCENE] That's how I think it would go down at least XD
I don’t normally watch this show in full episodes have I enjoy it, but for that scene alone you just described I would absolutely watch a full episode because it would take a full episode to start them off right and do them justice
God, his compassion for his students is insane. He seems scary, but you know you could go to him if you were having trouble with assignment or were dealing with problems at home or something and he would be patient as fuck!
I love how the Monarch says hello to Dean. Like they're kind of friends. It's sweet. Shame that Dean is busy hating everything about his life at the moment.
The Monarch just being so nonchalant about it just makes it worse. Heck, the Monarch looks happy to see him and doesn't even appreciate how annoying he is towards Dean.
The monarch at this point may as well be Doc's frenemy, yeah he hates him but he can have moments where they just chill, he even knows his kids on a personal bases. They're family afterall, it is kinda nice how Hank seems to get along better with the Monarch, and Dean gets along better with Rusty. I wonder if now that the movies out, the rules have shifted with what the monarch is capable of getting away with? *Spoilers for those that haven't seen the movie* The monarch being Rusty's imperfect clone might make him classified as equal to or almost equal to Rusty, in the guilds and OSI's eyes. If that's the case does that mean Brock who was assigned to protect Doctor Venture is now incapable of harming the Monarch? Also I wonder if the monarch being an imperfect Rusty means he has the right to take partial custody of Dean and Hank? Granted they're grown up now so I guess not but still would be funny if he took Rusty to court just to be petty or for child support. I wonder if the check to leave Dean and his family alone would come into play? There's just so many more stories to share it really sucks this show got cancelled.
@@cgecko3 I don't think being a clone makes you the same person. I think it's more something where they are allowed to define their relationship. And it seems like both of them would rather be enemies. Which, as we have seen, isn't the least healthy relationship they could have
@@rosesweetcharlotte There's so much open ended nuance behind that philosophically speaking. They are two very different people yet they are also quite literally cut from the same cloth. I agree that they aren't the same they have enough to distinguish them from eachother but it is very interesting to think how other characters might perceive them now.
Damn, between Hellfire and Red Death, Venture Bros has been absolutely knocking it out of the park with super heroes/villains I would want to see get their own series.
The two of them make great examples of really powerful superhumans, with a high degree of lethality, who are nevertheless highly polite and respectful outside of combat situations. I suppose the difference (besides their moral alignments) is that Red Death, for all that he respects the work life balance, does enjoy his work as a supervillain, while Von Hellfire refused to engage until his students were threatened. Which is also probably why Red Death is a 10 but Von Hellfire is only a 5, the former is a long term part of this setup, while the latter seems to want nothing to do with arching.
Dammit, Gary! We all know Malc... er... The Mighty Monarch rarely does his homework. That's why it's up to you to know that you're arching an iron-clad, flying, flamethrower guy before you go running-in without a clue what you're even trying to steal or accomplish!
Everyone acting like Monarch could have taken him because “he’s a level 5 arch” first off, arch levels aren’t power levels. This isn’t dbz, get out of here with that. Secondly, Hellfire doesn’t fight his arches. Most likely they’ve never been in a position where they decided to take a hostage, so they probably just attempt to hurt him, it doesn’t work, so they leave. Monarch however sees this is not the case. Get over your angry faces number battles.
Yeah, in the episode they were shocked he was only a level 5 and throughtout the season the show constantly references level as being multiple factors such as assets, henchmen, even personal grooming. This dude in this episode literally was being shown to not be a super scientist but just a regular teacher
I honestly how they can convey how much of a bigger man Prof Vic is by simply showing him politely turning the other cheek til one of his students is threatened
There has to be rules for people who don't want to participate in arching or being arched regarding family/friends, because if police won't help you'd probably be in the clear to defend yourself from this stuff..
Afqwa Ah, but what of the arched friends/family? In this situation, would Dean/Sirena be restrained by general laws or rules of OSI/Guild should they defended themselves in a manner in which the villain is injured/killed due to the villain causing them as bystanders to be involved in their arch by way of their lives being threatened.
@@ignisking759 I think they'd be allowed to defend themselves, and indeed encouraged, but ultimately what's protecting Serena is Wide Whale. Wasn't this expanded on in the 1st/2nd/3rd season when Monarch went after Jonas Venture Jr? I thought the gambit Dr. Mrs. The Monarch set up was that arching Jr. gave Monarch periphery arching rights to Rusty? And we know both Dr. Dugong and this Hellfire person are relations to fairly high ranking members of the Guild, but neither is exempted from being arched (though if what Victor says can be taken at face value, it's possible his pater is hoping a stream of jerks in costume will make his son snap). The Guild isn't a business, it's a protection racket, like Grodd's Secret Society. They care first and foremost for their villainous members. It's just easier to keep the police and OSI from coming down on everyone's necks if some guidelines are established. Dr. Mrs. The Monarch did tell Jonas Jr. the Guild would take extreme retribution if he killed the Monarch, and it seems Wide Whale couldn't actually attack him despite having a personal grudge to do so with.
As established in The Lepidopterists (however you spell it) the Guild can and does sanction relatives of arches to be valid targets in certain circumstances; the Monarch uses this loophole to arch Venture after Jonas Jr retaliates with disproportionate force against him.
He's been asking himself that his entire life. Which is ironic, as that was Dr. Venture's main complaint about his Own childhood growing up; and then he turned around and did the same thing to his own kids....
1:01 it was at this point Monarch knew he f12ked up Also who else thinks that Professor Victor Von Hellfire and Red Death could get along incredibly well
Dr. Doom is neither a hero nor a villain. He is Doom. The Master of Latveria, beloved by his people and feared by every other national power in the world. All he cares about is bringing the world to peace and saving it by bringing it into his rule.
They usually keep things pretty open to what they want when they parody. The whole thing started off as a parody of Johnny Quest and other 80 shows like that. They've just branched out more and more to make it their own work.
It seems, and manages at the same to be better than the original version (the Doom of that movie) and the character of this series which was originally created to be a Dr. Doom parody, Baron Ünderbheit; this series can always surprise with new and interesting characters even if they appear just for a little bit.
He probably just refuses to participate in most arches. Honestly if Monarch decided to just go and spray paint his car, Von Hellfire would have just signed the papers and The Monarch would have had a 'successful' arch.
To be fair, The Monarch has a habit of rushing into fights that could end VERY badly for him. Hell, he's been disregarding the Guild and it's authority for a LONG time.
When you consider that Sirena is Wide Wale's daughter, Dean has O.S.I. protection, the Monarch and Two Ton 21 having each other's backs, Professor Victor Von Hellfire might actually be the least dangerous person in that room. He won't get mad unless you mess with his students as far as we know.
I love how 21 always tried to reason with the Monarch and just gets screamed at to do what he says. Which usually leads to them getting in deeper shit.
When he started melting I started laughing thinking it was so over the top and basically the Monarch is completely screwed, and when he starts burning up his clothes while doing that cliche swirling power lift, I lost it. XD
Going off his earlier conversation when Dean wanted to drop science all together, it seems like he teaches a lot of different types of science classes.
1:061:20 its just me or his entire hate speech sounds like a space marine? I mean you could put "for the emperor" at the end and no one could see the diference
Iron body Victor von... Wowwww...people really got it wrong when they decided Underbite was a Victor Von Doom reference.i mean yeah he had a country but...
Now this is a Professor i would have liked to have at our School! So much shit wouldn't had happend. "Alright i have enough! You can threaten me, destroy the Classroom or some other kind of stupid shit but you don't harm my Students. Feel the Wrath! of Professor Victor van Hellfire!" +FWOSH-BAAM-CRUNCH+ "And this Students is how you skin a living Human being, any Questions?" "Yes Professor. Did we have to do this in the Practical Part of our Exams?"
If I were The Mighty Monarch and 21, I’d be even more afraid of Wide Wale after they menaced Sirena!!!!!! I have a feeling that Guild Arching Rules would go out the window in that particular circumstance. That, plus Wide Wale is pretty much Tony Soprano and Don Corleone rolled up in one. And Wide Wale’s bodyguard is Samson-class.
This is like those many RPGs where you missed that one low level enemy early game and then when you troll around the starting area at level 70 or something they try starting shit with you.
God damn it why can't we just get one more season just the end it all we had already got in the payoff of finding out their brothers officially one more good send-off season
I love that since it's equally matched aggression, Victor is a five. It's not about what he can do, it's about what he chooses to do and his accomplishments. If it was just "This guy is THIS GOOD" (he's arguably the most threatening hero in the show), he'd be a 10. I love that this show established these rules and stuck to them.
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Professor Victor Von Hellfire being arched by red death would be the perfect combination of awesomely intense fighting and highly courteous professional relationships outside of office hours
They would fight and then later have a cup of coffee and talk about how the family is doing.
@@MantaRaydiated They would go to each others cookouts. Babysit each others kid. God help you if you threatened the other ones family during an Arch. They would need a bucket and mop for any sort of funeral or last rights.
I would watch the hell out of that
Unfortunately, I think Victor is in a entirely different league than Red Death, seeing as red deaths only super power is a flying horse and the ability to channel Liam Neeson whereas Victors superpower is the ability to fly, conjure hellfire from his hands, and being composed of some form of metal.
@@aproxy7263 The Monarchs only super power was being minted but he was still a level 10 :b
The Monarch’s whole character is basically that bird meme “The risk I took was calculated, but boy am I bad at math.”
That and/or bad at noticing variables
_"He might not be good at it, but he loves it. And I love him"_ - Dr. Mrs the Monarch
I just love how the whole time that Victor Von Hellfire is giving his speech you just hear Monarch in the background kind of trying to calm him down 🤣
Yup, he's gets to monologue because he's ignoring monarch lol
Well the monarch LITERALLY broke his own foot kicking this guy in the nuts, during which he didn't even flinch.
Probably dishes as well as he takes.
I would be too if Dr Dooms son tried to throw a fireball at me.
“Woaaah” 😂😂😂😂
Just goes to show you: don’t start what you can’t finish
An invincible flame throwing metal flying super genius is a Level 5? Either the rating system is broken, or dude can hide his power level better than Krillin.
He probably refuses to fight back/escalate unless his students are threatened. Dude could be a 9 easily, but he ain't about that life.
Plus the guy doesn't seem to have a base of operations or even some super science stuff to steal. He is just a regular teacher who happens to be related to that world's version of Dr. Doom.
Reputation, henchmen, lair and vehicle are also counted in the Guild Ranking system. If he had those, coupled with his reputation he would probably be a level 9 or 10.
Also he may refuse to participate and thus stay at 5. If he was a 10 he would have to fight Red Death or similar every week and that would take away from his humanitarian work, which he seems to value more than playing superhero in costume.
Equally matched AGRESSION.
He says “I’m not gonna fight you” lol.
He probably wouldn’t have if his students weren’t endangered. Personal Hygene might be a factor though...probably smells like plants and chalk.
GameGhost1
Lol, plants, chalk and burned hair and skin
It's probably because he's not really involved in the whole super science/superhero/supervillain world. He's probably just there because of his father. The guy has a pretty normal life except for the superpowers
I like how 21 tries to warn the Monarch that Sirena is Wide Whale’s daughter.
He’s always looking out for his best friend.
And he was never gonna kill her, but he was willing to threaten her for him
With a friend like that, 21 will never need an enemy.
I'd just like to remind everyone that the Monarch's last arch was a doctor specialising in hemmeroid removal. It's understandable he'd make this kind of mistake. And hilarious.
He normally wont fight back.
He's also got a severe lack of resources, it seems, which also is counted.
He's got no backup, no fortress, no super science lab, etc.
If Monarch came prepared he could basically run circles around the guy and denying him a straight fight
Kate Grant
The problem is that he seems to want to have a more normal life and not show off his powers. If he used his super powers he could probably be a level 7 or 8 on his own.
Let's see just based on this scene he has as least a higher state of invulnerability that could probably stop bullets. He can shoot out exploding fire balls from his hand and finally he can fly or levitate. So far one of the few stronger villains shown would be Red Death. Remember he is a 10.
Who was his last arch? The dr. Doogone guy?
@@atom_bomb_77 Some dentist or something. It was during the Blue Morpho stuff.
I love how he was completely and utterly ok with being threatened, attacked, assaulted, insulted, but the moment his student was put as risk, the gloves (and skin) come right off.
Chaotic good?
@@ashes2steel Yup.
I mean... The safety of the student always comes first in most classrooms
Tbh he's practically invincible, there's nothing Monarch can really do to him so he's not worried in the slightest.
well, yeah. he's made of metal. there's very little they can actively do to harm him.
The Professor is only level 5 because he chooses to be passive.
That really says something about his power level XD
I like that fact that Victor could seemingly give himself any disguise, yet he decided he wanted to really rock the middle aged professor look.
Mans is ising as Carl Sagan
He probably doesn't consider it a disguise as much as an expression of how he sees himself.
@@misterturkturkle and Kyle MacLachan as Paul Atredes
To be fair, it is a pretty classy look. Maybe needs a different haircut, but not bad overall
I love the idea of the son of a big time Silver Age villain getting a regular job even though he's also a high-level power. He's Scott Evil all grown up and got over his daddy issues.
Awww. But yeah. I would TOTALLY buy that comic! Seriously, in a world of superheroes and supervillains, here's a guy, father a villain, himself granted powers, just living an ordinary life. And occasionally someone comes to him for a "thwarting" or something! That would definitely be a fun little one-off! (I'd actually be curious as to how they'd make that into a continuing series, probably having to rely on what's happening hero/villain-wise in the background, at least to keep it from getting stale.)
"Daddy wasn't there..."
@@shadowwatcher3957 I'd be very surprised if Astro City hadn't done a story like that.
He certainly cares about his students.
Hmmmmmmmmmm good call. I hadn't considered that.
He and Koro-sensei would te along pretty well
Well it does look like it’s night time there so nighttime classes I bet
Giving Korosensei vibes
Real teacher of the year material
Poor Monarch. He really needs to read up on his enemies that may have super powers.
He read the guy's profile, and knew his dad was some big time supervillain who tortured him trying to get him in the family business.
The Monarch needs to stop getting paired with bad fits. Dr Dugong & that one random doctor gut were way too low level to be his arch, while JJ & Von Hellfire were way too strong. Hell, when Sgt Hatred was packing heat, Rusty was a bad match because his troops were under-equipped for handling guns. At least Samson mostly stuck to melee...
JJ is like what it'd be like if Rusty were actually competent, so it's hard to believe that the Monarch could take him in a serious fight.
It is tough JJ played it straight. What I mean is that he was honest and genuinely a good guy. So if the Monarch managed to out maneuver him through deception he may beat JJ, but otherwise JJ would stomp him.
Also Dr. Hellfire is probably only a level 4 arch because he does not want to show off his power. If he would go all out he would probably be a level or two under Red Death.
Several Treaty of Tolerance Violations here: (According to the Guild of Calamitous Intents' own PR video):
1) Disrespecting personal boundaries. The Monarch attacks in the middle of class on a college campus, putting young students at risk. That's got to be a big treaty violation right there.
2) Physically attacking an arch who refuses to engage with you. One of these guys , either Hellfire or the Monarch, is in violation of the arching rules. You either sign up for the rules and play by them, or you don't.
3) Taking civilian hostages not part of the arching pact.
4) Extreme mismatch of power levels. First, Monarch chooses an arch that lives underwater and collects.......cuttlefish. Next, he takes on an arch that could best the most powerful villain in the Guild. Does the Monarch do any research at All when choosing an arch, and for that matter, does the Guild even review the matches before approving them??
Guess I'd better send in my resume as an arch coordinator......
Guild went to shit without sovereign to administrate smh.
On point 4 isn't it equally matched 'aggression' - not power? Power is a factor, but things like Henchmen, money, technology, they all count too, and Victor Von Helping is A: on a teachers budget and B: not exactly stocking up on such things. The system probably wasn't really designed for situations like this one, where somebody was (most likely) signed up non-consensually and only counts as a level 5 from power alone.
There's always going to be politics in play, from humiliating your competition to brushing over minor violations for your own convenience to outright breaking rules because you want to. When you give supervillains clout, some are going to use it to break as many rules as they think they can get away with, and the same goes for "super scientists" like Jonas.
Also fairly certain he didn’t choose his arches.
Do the daughter of a level 10 antagonist and the son of a level 10 protagonist really count as "civilians" though?
Okay now that's a cool teacher!
I would say "hot" more then cool.
drop his class online, he just burst thru your dorm room window
@@Ahandsomeface yeah I'm with you on that one, I mean he throws fire balls at people and he can melt any thing or anyone into a pile of molten crap or something.
Totally
As someone that likes Dr. Doom. I seriously would read a comic with Victor Von Hellfire and I thought Red Death was awesome. I hope that it turns out he is a crown prince of some fictional western european country in exile.
Underland already took that role.
Yeah, but i guess i saw Baron Underbheit as more Apocalypse with a little Dr. Doom. Plus they haven't revisted Underland in forever if i am correct.
Besides his dad supposedly already fills a Doom roll
His dad is the classic Dr doom while this prof von hellfire is kind of like the movie versions. Or ultimate universe.
True though; I'm loving their new characters like Von Hellfire and Red Death.
I like how the biggest baddasses (Professor Avon Hellfire, Red Death, etc) are only really legitimately pissed if you go after the innocents around them like their students or family.
Or hell, even Brock.
Professionals have standards
@@campfortson4387 Brock killed a bartender for making a joke about his mullet, he was just bloodthirsty and looking for any reason to kill a guy
Late season Brock might care though
This is why you do research before you go arching
Remember when he tried to beat Captain "Sunshine" with solar power after doing his homework?
@@adventuroushero1229 and Dr. Mrs. The Monarch did nothing to stop him feom building the ray gun.
A Friendly UA-cam Commenter And that's why he needs his wife.
Because she didn't want Monarch to kill Sunshine, so it was either Sunshine Beam so Monarch loses an actual fight, or hope and pray he doesn't kill Sunshine like he did Wonder Boy
He was actually given a folder with his backstort, Hellfire is the son of a villain and his dad wanted him to follow in his foot steps but decided to become some liberal weenie professor, either way its awesome that he's just the reverse of Dr.doom.
Professor.victor vonhellfyre is a perfect example of the difference between peaceful and harmless.
Yep
Oh a perfect example, it's like when you look at famously neutral nations like Sweden or Switzerland... Then you see how big their military is.
Being reluctant to fight is not the same as not knowing how.
@@JamesTobiasStewart The story goes that a German officer was in Switzerland on vacation. While there, he met a man who happened to also be an officer in the Swiss army. While talking, the German jokingly asked "The German army is twice as strong as the Swiss army. What would you do if Germany invaded Switzerland?" The Swiss officer replied, in all seriousness, "Shoot twice and go home."
@@JamesTobiasStewart e.g. Switzerland designing a line of state of the art world class fighter jets starting with the Saab 35 Draken.
@@atomicskull6405*Sweden
I love how power wise this guy is overpowered but has a low rating because he doesn't have a villain mentality.
Victor von hellfire. Now that's a badass name fit for someone like him
The man sounds like a space marine.
@@theimperiumofman102 All hail the god emperor of mankind and the great Imperium!
well he is the son of a supervillain, if he could choose he would probably want something more relatable. But it is his given name and when he is angry I tells you just how much he is going to ruin your day
@@sea-envy3137 His placard at his desk reads Victor von Helper
He's a whomesome boi when his students aren't being threatened with decapitation.
@@KaaneDragonShinobi true. but threaten his students and he will let you know his true name and true face and all will know him and... I mean thank you for come today class
This is like what would happen if the Secret Society of Super-Villains tried sending Killer Moth after Captain Atom.
Pre or post Underworld Unleashed Moth?
Disrespectful, but horribly true
@@SuperWolseydefinitely pre, Charaxes might actually do some serious damage.
Victor Von Hellfire VS. Red Death. My eyeballs need to see this arching.
I'd rather see them talk over coffee or something, just because ones a "good guy" and the others a "bad guy" it doesn't mean they have to fight.
@@tacodog767 Or they can do both, have a fight while talking about maybe red death's daughter's future in college maybe?
@@funkmantim2661 I can totally see that.
Red: you know i was thinking my cute Ragamuffin could be quite the botanist when she grows up, but honestly i just wanna see her excel at anything that she puts he mind too...* has Victor in headlock* whatcha think
Victor: honestly.... it's good to see a dad be as openminded but really, if you wanted to talk we could've done this more civilized.
Red: Yeah i know this seemed like a good idea at the time...
Victor: ugh... fine i'll feed into it...* throws a fireball in Red's face* i mean i get you want to think about her future...but you might be going TOO far ahead, she's what...1st grade 2nd grade?
Red: yeah but things can happen...might get her mother's brains and be in college at 14...
Victor: wait your wife went to college at 14...?
Red: No...but she is as intelligent as she is beautiful.
I don't think it would be much of an arching. Red is a strict professional and would not endanger an innocent for the sake of an arching since, much like his own family, he would see it as "out of bounds" while Victor's physical nature would make him impervious to traditional combat and his emotional nature leaves very little exploit. Neither would benefit from the process so it'd be a total wash (plus since Victor is only considered a 5, due to his pacifism, it'd be too under Red's radar to even bother)
@@Zarryon12 I loved reading that.
Holy shit at least half of the cast from the venture bros could legitimately have their own real comics, Victor bin hellfire, Doc Venture Sr., etc
Any comic that has Rusty's bastard of a father as the lead is going to get dark fast.
Yeah...I can't imagine any comic with Jonas Venture going over to well with people. Victor von Hellfire though? Sign me up
Not to mention the Order of the Triad
Evilmike42 that comment somehow brought both joy and disappointment within me
who knows? This show has been an instant classic since it first started, there's a lot that should be done to get them bigger and I think a comic would definitely be a great way to go
Harvey Birdman: "I'll take the case!"
Victor Von Hellfire: "I'll melt your face!"
I knew he sounded familiar thank you.
God, I want that crossover to happen
Alright, professor.
Here's how I'd imagine if Red Death arched the Professor (I'm just calling him professor cuz his name is pretty long:
*Red Death charges into the class on his steed*
Red Death: *in his villainous voice* "Professor I have come for you Mwahahaha!"
Professor: "Could you wait ten minutes, I'm just finishing a class?"
Red Death *in his normal voice* "Oh sure I can wait, I'll just wait around the campus square in the meantime."
*flies out through the hole in the window*
*They eventually meet in the college campus square and commence a battle of epic proportions, then after some time an alarm on Red Death's watch goes off.*
Red Death: "Oh quitting time already, want to grab a coffee?"
Professor: *in their metallic endoskeleton* "Sure, I think the campus coffee place is still open this time of day and I'll pay if you want?"
Red Death: "Great... I think the wife and I are hoping our daughter can go to this college in the future... Looks quite promising for my special girl."
[SCENE]
That's how I think it would go down at least XD
I don’t normally watch this show in full episodes have I enjoy it, but for that scene alone you just described I would absolutely watch a full episode because it would take a full episode to start them off right and do them justice
@Emperorgonzo1 red death has several episodes building his character and I can safely say that's almost definitely how he'd react
It's like Carl Sagan and Dr. Doom had combined into one. It's genius.
Fu-sion-Ha
I like how he says hi to Dean like they’re friends and he didn’t try to kill Dean and Hank multiple times.
They're the arch equivalent of old friends at this point. I love it.
it was after he realized dean was his nephew he kept stalking him
@@masakasamaMonarch has put out hits on them, he just never quite put in the effort to kill them as he did others
God, his compassion for his students is insane. He seems scary, but you know you could go to him if you were having trouble with assignment or were dealing with problems at home or something and he would be patient as fuck!
never piss off Carl Sagan
Holy shit I never noticed.
I like how The Mighty Monarch takes a moment to say hey to Dean. Like he's genuinely polite. Lolz!
After all the history they have, they may as well just consider themselves acquaintances. Most older heroes and villains act like that.
I love how the Monarch says hello to Dean. Like they're kind of friends. It's sweet. Shame that Dean is busy hating everything about his life at the moment.
The Monarch just being so nonchalant about it just makes it worse. Heck, the Monarch looks happy to see him and doesn't even appreciate how annoying he is towards Dean.
The monarch at this point may as well be Doc's frenemy, yeah he hates him but he can have moments where they just chill, he even knows his kids on a personal bases. They're family afterall, it is kinda nice how Hank seems to get along better with the Monarch, and Dean gets along better with Rusty. I wonder if now that the movies out, the rules have shifted with what the monarch is capable of getting away with?
*Spoilers for those that haven't seen the movie*
The monarch being Rusty's imperfect clone might make him classified as equal to or almost equal to Rusty, in the guilds and OSI's eyes. If that's the case does that mean Brock who was assigned to protect Doctor Venture is now incapable of harming the Monarch? Also I wonder if the monarch being an imperfect Rusty means he has the right to take partial custody of Dean and Hank? Granted they're grown up now so I guess not but still would be funny if he took Rusty to court just to be petty or for child support. I wonder if the check to leave Dean and his family alone would come into play? There's just so many more stories to share it really sucks this show got cancelled.
@@cgecko3 I don't think being a clone makes you the same person. I think it's more something where they are allowed to define their relationship. And it seems like both of them would rather be enemies. Which, as we have seen, isn't the least healthy relationship they could have
@@rosesweetcharlotte There's so much open ended nuance behind that philosophically speaking. They are two very different people yet they are also quite literally cut from the same cloth. I agree that they aren't the same they have enough to distinguish them from eachother but it is very interesting to think how other characters might perceive them now.
“Victor Von Hellfire” is an awesome name.
Proffesor Victor von Hellfire is a METAL AF name holy crap
Damn, between Hellfire and Red Death, Venture Bros has been absolutely knocking it out of the park with super heroes/villains I would want to see get their own series.
The two of them make great examples of really powerful superhumans, with a high degree of lethality, who are nevertheless highly polite and respectful outside of combat situations.
I suppose the difference (besides their moral alignments) is that Red Death, for all that he respects the work life balance, does enjoy his work as a supervillain, while Von Hellfire refused to engage until his students were threatened. Which is also probably why Red Death is a 10 but Von Hellfire is only a 5, the former is a long term part of this setup, while the latter seems to want nothing to do with arching.
Monarch: Okay, we may have overcorrected from Dr. Dugong!
I love the voice transition of Victor as he starts to hover!! Its so manacing and incredibly Badass!
Dammit, Gary! We all know Malc... er... The Mighty Monarch rarely does his homework. That's why it's up to you to know that you're arching an iron-clad, flying, flamethrower guy before you go running-in without a clue what you're even trying to steal or accomplish!
The Monarch was wear air pods, he couldn't hear him!
Everyone acting like Monarch could have taken him because “he’s a level 5 arch” first off, arch levels aren’t power levels. This isn’t dbz, get out of here with that. Secondly, Hellfire doesn’t fight his arches. Most likely they’ve never been in a position where they decided to take a hostage, so they probably just attempt to hurt him, it doesn’t work, so they leave. Monarch however sees this is not the case. Get over your angry faces number battles.
Yeah, in the episode they were shocked he was only a level 5 and throughtout the season the show constantly references level as being multiple factors such as assets, henchmen, even personal grooming. This dude in this episode literally was being shown to not be a super scientist but just a regular teacher
I honestly how they can convey how much of a bigger man Prof Vic is by simply showing him politely turning the other cheek til one of his students is threatened
There has to be rules for people who don't want to participate in arching or being arched regarding family/friends, because if police won't help you'd probably be in the clear to defend yourself from this stuff..
I think we're about to see that rule in action.
Afqwa
Ah, but what of the arched friends/family? In this situation, would Dean/Sirena be restrained by general laws or rules of OSI/Guild should they defended themselves in a manner in which the villain is injured/killed due to the villain causing them as bystanders to be involved in their arch by way of their lives being threatened.
@@ignisking759 I think they'd be allowed to defend themselves, and indeed encouraged, but ultimately what's protecting Serena is Wide Whale.
Wasn't this expanded on in the 1st/2nd/3rd season when Monarch went after Jonas Venture Jr? I thought the gambit Dr. Mrs. The Monarch set up was that arching Jr. gave Monarch periphery arching rights to Rusty? And we know both Dr. Dugong and this Hellfire person are relations to fairly high ranking members of the Guild, but neither is exempted from being arched (though if what Victor says can be taken at face value, it's possible his pater is hoping a stream of jerks in costume will make his son snap).
The Guild isn't a business, it's a protection racket, like Grodd's Secret Society. They care first and foremost for their villainous members. It's just easier to keep the police and OSI from coming down on everyone's necks if some guidelines are established. Dr. Mrs. The Monarch did tell Jonas Jr. the Guild would take extreme retribution if he killed the Monarch, and it seems Wide Whale couldn't actually attack him despite having a personal grudge to do so with.
Shouldn't the law of self defense would already cover it
As established in The Lepidopterists (however you spell it) the Guild can and does sanction relatives of arches to be valid targets in certain circumstances; the Monarch uses this loophole to arch Venture after Jonas Jr retaliates with disproportionate force against him.
Guild rating system needs new hires, whoever made captain atom over here a level 5 needs a reevaluation
Well the whole guilt is a bunch of rip off the legion of doom
Damn. I've seen the Monarch screw up many times in MANY ways throughout the course of this show, but he DEFINITELY reached a new level here.
I like how Monarch says hello to Dean like long-time acquaintances. It's like running into your old classmate on the bus.
Thank God it wasn't Red Death. Monarch would've been vaporized! Lol.
I’m fairly sure the man has no equal. The system would never let him be paired up with anyone for the safety and well-being of the arch
Why would he be arching Red Death, aren't they both supervillains? Did one of them become a superhero?
This guy isn't a supervillain hes the son of one but still the strongest person to ever appear is still Dr Henry Killenger and his magic murder bag
@@ColonelBragg Why I love this series in one sentence
they're both antagonists and Red Death is a level 10 also.
If the show ever comes back, hopefully hellfire comes back as a arch/“good guy”, his power is so great in pontential, he is in Red Death territory
I’d like to see him go toe to toe with red death
That’s what you get when you arch above your belt, and only arch one, single guy for more than 17 years
I like how Hellfire's voice becomes robotic when he transforms
Poor Dean. He really can’t get away from al the “freaks”
He's been asking himself that his entire life. Which is ironic, as that was Dr. Venture's main complaint about his Own childhood growing up; and then he turned around and did the same thing to his own kids....
Victor Von Hellfire?
How did you...
*sees transformation*
Never mind....
I have questions on alot of other things though.
I like how Monarch is totally chill with the Venture Bros.
How does this guys ahve a lower ema level than rusty
You can punch me in the face, kick me in the balls, but you do not threaten my students.
Best teacher ever.
Would've been awesome if he had actually said that.
He's a super hero but he's built like a super villain.
Monarch: "I f^^^ked up!"
1:01 it was at this point Monarch knew he f12ked up
Also who else thinks that Professor Victor Von Hellfire and Red Death could get along incredibly well
I wish I had a teacher like that
We all wish that a metallic Carl Sagan was our teacher
I mean... Yeah... He at heart is a really good professor and I'd gladly take at least 300 of them for every community college in the world.
I know right? A teacher that truly cares for his students!
his last name is Hellfire. The Monarch should have seen this one coming.
00:15 Breaks clear glass to find treasure
So it's Dr Doom, but the 2015 version?
I'm confused, isn't Dr. Doom suppose to be a super villain? Why would the monarch be arching him?
Dr. Doom is neither a hero nor a villain. He is Doom. The Master of Latveria, beloved by his people and feared by every other national power in the world. All he cares about is bringing the world to peace and saving it by bringing it into his rule.
Well this profesor doesn't really seem to reflect that if he's suppose to be a parody of Doctor Doom.
They usually keep things pretty open to what they want when they parody. The whole thing started off as a parody of Johnny Quest and other 80 shows like that. They've just branched out more and more to make it their own work.
It seems, and manages at the same to be better than the original version (the Doom of that movie) and the character of this series which was originally created to be a Dr. Doom parody, Baron Ünderbheit; this series can always surprise with new and interesting characters even if they appear just for a little bit.
How is this guy a level 5 protagonist? The guild did not it's homework on this one...
Chuksie Abani No henchmen, no villain mobile, no base of operations/lair, plus I don't think he even cares about arching
He probably just refuses to participate in most arches. Honestly if Monarch decided to just go and spray paint his car, Von Hellfire would have just signed the papers and The Monarch would have had a 'successful' arch.
They are under new management. Takes a while to know your clients.
He normally wont fight back but the monarch had to take a student hostage just to get him to do something.
@monokhem Brock was probably 8-9 of those levels on his own.
I like how Dean is just so annoyed and Sirena is just so meh about it. Gotta love how this is so normal for all of them in the Venture-verse.
Is that Harvey Birdman's voice!?:D
Yes it is, Gary Cole is the voice of Victor Von Helping (Hellfire)
I'll Take The Arch!!!
I love his “filled with rage” voice
Don’t recall hearing it that often
that moment of realization when you figure out that the whole situation here is Victor's dad being the epitome of the 'c'mon, do something' meme.
Literally the definition of F around and find out.
This was definitely The Monarch’s “I have cuttlefish” moment
Lol monarch jumped way out of his league.
Equally matched aggression is why hes only a level 5
0:35 poor 21 that hit sounded like it broke something
Surprised they're willing to threaten Widewhale's daughter like that.
To be fair, The Monarch has a habit of rushing into fights that could end VERY badly for him. Hell, he's been disregarding the Guild and it's authority for a LONG time.
Yup, even 21 thought it was a bad idea.
@@mikejoseph1609 and he had unforseen help (i.e. Phantom Limb's machinations)
@@SuperWolsey Exactly!
When you consider that Sirena is Wide Wale's daughter, Dean has O.S.I. protection, the Monarch and Two Ton 21 having each other's backs, Professor Victor Von Hellfire might actually be the least dangerous person in that room. He won't get mad unless you mess with his students as far as we know.
Haha the moment he realizes dr venture isn't the pinnacle of arch nemesis
holy the animation is great!
metasprite it's really come a long way from its humble beginnings as far as animation.
Why else does it take an entire decade to get a new season.
@@LazyPirate8 The writing, same reason anime takes 5 years between seasons, except they get a comic first
@@LazyPirate8 art takes time
Professor Victor von hellfire,
That is such a badass name
Victor Von Hellfire is like that Professor at Hogwarts you wanted to have as a teacher.
As the old quote goes:
"It was at that moment he knew... he fucked up".
Wish we got to see more of this guy
I love how 21 always tried to reason with the Monarch and just gets screamed at to do what he says. Which usually leads to them getting in deeper shit.
Plot twist: Victor doesn't want to fight because he's a pacifist, he doesn't want to fight because it would be too easy
When he started melting I started laughing thinking it was so over the top and basically the Monarch is completely screwed, and when he starts burning up his clothes while doing that cliche swirling power lift, I lost it. XD
Is he supposed to look at least partially like Carl Sagan?
Sure seems like it. If they had made him a physicist instead of a botanist, I would've said it was a definite reference.
Going off his earlier conversation when Dean wanted to drop science all together, it seems like he teaches a lot of different types of science classes.
Then again, although Sagans primary studies were in physics and astronomy, Cosmos was still quite general.
0:30 Every loot-based ARPG ever.
“WE’RE HERE TO FIGHT YOU & STEAL YOUR SHIT.” LMAO.
Words can't describe how happy I am that this show is finally coming back
:(
I would read an entire 40 year comic series about Professor Victor Von Hellfire
Victor von hellfire = if Dr. DOOM was a good guy
That slow realization that you have really stepped in it.
Me as a super villain teacher:
"Do what you will with me but you do NOT THREATEN MY STUDENTS!!!"
1:06 1:20 its just me or his entire hate speech sounds like a space marine? I mean you could put "for the emperor" at the end and no one could see the diference
I wanna fight between Victor Von Hellfire and Red Death
Red Death can vaporize stuff with his doom scythe. Von Hellfire can't step up to that.
I miss this show
Iron body
Victor von...
Wowwww...people really got it wrong when they decided Underbite was a Victor Von Doom reference.i mean yeah he had a country but...
Now this is a Professor i would have liked to have at our School! So much shit wouldn't had happend.
"Alright i have enough! You can threaten me, destroy the Classroom or some other kind of stupid shit but you don't harm my Students. Feel the Wrath! of Professor Victor van Hellfire!"
+FWOSH-BAAM-CRUNCH+
"And this Students is how you skin a living Human being, any Questions?"
"Yes Professor. Did we have to do this in the Practical Part of our Exams?"
If I were The Mighty Monarch and 21, I’d be even more afraid of Wide Wale after they menaced Sirena!!!!!! I have a feeling that Guild Arching Rules would go out the window in that particular circumstance.
That, plus Wide Wale is pretty much Tony Soprano and Don Corleone rolled up in one. And Wide Wale’s bodyguard is Samson-class.
I feel like Red Death and him would get along so well
This is like those many RPGs where you missed that one low level enemy early game and then when you troll around the starting area at level 70 or something they try starting shit with you.
No really ever commented on Monarch jus all friendly non chalantly going "Hi Dean Venture!"
God damn it why can't we just get one more season just the end it all we had already got in the payoff of finding out their brothers officially one more good send-off season
The movie is still being made, so at least we have that to look forward to.
I love that since it's equally matched aggression, Victor is a five. It's not about what he can do, it's about what he chooses to do and his accomplishments.
If it was just "This guy is THIS GOOD" (he's arguably the most threatening hero in the show), he'd be a 10.
I love that this show established these rules and stuck to them.
Yeah, he seems like he has really calmed down. He only went after Monarch because he was mad he was threatening his students
Von Hellfire is actually a super dope name...I might have to use that for something.
Dr Doom if he wanted a quiet life and only had so much control over his ego