Rusty is being magnificently restrained considering he’s faced with the two organizations who, as a whole, represent everything that destroyed his childhood.
to be fair, this man has just condescendingly referred to a gathering of high end villains and government agents, one of which being Brock Samson, as children. the kind of equalizing factor when someones going to call you on your bullshit despite how weak they are compared to you is a big power move
Cory Hooper True, but as a counterpoint, Rusty is also wholly unimpressed by these people on a very genuine level. The theatrics, the show of force, the menace; he’s seen it all before to the point of being almost bored of it. Sure, they could kill him. So what? People have been trying to do that since before he was out of training pants. In a way his ability to not give a fuck about all the pomp and circumstance and cut to the heart of the matter without any formality or concern for social correctness made him uniquely qualified to oversee this summit.
He was always trying to cast a shadow, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Rusty didn't condemn a super successful research and development company to obsolescence, he inherited it in a nose dive that he was even less capable to pull out of than his dad was. In a world that glorified Jonas Venture (Sr) so far as to glorify his exploits in television (interviews, photo ops) and cartoons (The Rusty Boy Adventurer cartoons), Sr found himself at odds making super scientific ends meet. I'll bet everything he had at one point or another was being developed for someone, _for money,_ to use as a villain (the gas he was using in his underground society, the experimental jet, A.I. tech, a shrink/growth ray). And for every public failing, like the Helper recall, there were a *slew* of private disasters I'm sure they just swept under the rug and those disasters are _costly!_ I would wager Jonas Sr dies on Gargantua-1 after he's exposed for being an underground villain tech developer, slowly turning into a villain over time, and killed before it can be discovered in the past and do something scary like: Turn Billy into the most terrifying villain the world knows because his boyhood hero and idol (son excluded) turned out to be the biggest villain of all!
When you think about it... This summit was never about both groups finding common ground. This was Jonas' excuse to humiliate both organizations and laugh at them. Rusty is not only the adult in this scene, he surpasses Jonas by actually making these people find common ground for the better and actually forces them to act like adults.
It's not that hard, but still. Yeah. As much as it hurts to say, informing your kids that total fairness is impossible and that you have to deal with what you got is a legitimate lesson that needs to be taught. Otherwise, you end up will stalemates like this one.
Pretty sure adults need to take that lesson to heart too, Chris. All diplomatic screw-ups are made by people either not willing to compromise even a little or screwing up an agreement due to ego and feelings of unfairness and last I checked kids weren't the ones making the screw-ups.
The best thing about this is that he's pretty damn spot-on with the whole children comparison. The whole superhero/ supervillain/ super spy thing is just a really big game of "cops and robbers" or "cowboys and indians" when you really think about it.
Serpentking789 B-Mask actually did a whole video on that exact topic. Basically, you have a bunch of former heroes and villains clinging desperately to the roles of their youth because they are afraid to embrace the larger world that is adulthood and confront their deficiencies as people. They just bury the fighting in a bunch of bureaucratic nonsense to hide how immature the whole thing is.
Which makes it all the scarier since the whole reason for these accords is everyone knows the villains would be way worse without rules to both restrict and protect them; they like using the kid gloves but have access to so much worse. While the OSI barely has the moral high ground given how paranoid, over-reacting and often outright fascist they are. It's the one case where Rusty's traumatic life actually helps him because he knows all about how this works and has plenty of contempt for and familiarity with both sides, and the point isn't to make either side happy but give them a feeling of stability and establish a status quo.
I like how a good chunk of the characters in this show would a force to reckoned with if they were able to get over some thing about them. Rusty would be a top dog if he could get over his daddy issues, the Monarch would be an outstanding villain if he weren’t obsessed with Rusty, and many more characters have one thing holding them back from being so terrifyingly powerful. It’s nice.
The key to Monarch and Rusty is that they are both half of Jonas. Monarch has all the flair, ambition, charisma and cunning with none of competence. Rusty has all the intellect but can't get past the laziness.
Really, the sanest and most competent and capable person in the whole series has got to be Red Death. Intelligence, flair, sense of morals, epic villainy, and a damn good husband and father. I think the biggest reason he's not even _more_ dangerous is because of his wife's pushing him to hang up his cape, so to speak.
thats why characters like red death, brock and 21 are absolute powerhouses, they have most of their personal issues solved and can actually function logically
Thing is I’m pretty sure monarchs ability to be a good villain is fuelled by said hatred of rusty, and rusty himself ain’t even that good of a scientist let’s be real
I love the diversity of reactions here (1:10) a little after when the OSI and GCI members are called "children" for the second time, and what the reactions tell about the characters. - Phantom Limb looks maybe a bit disdainful or like he's just ignoring Rusty, but he could be thinking about it. - Dr. Mrs. The Monarch is just plain insulted and not giving Rusty the time of day, though she was listening to him for a little while (if you watch you can see when she turns her shoulder). - Red Mantle and Dragoon both look decently ashamed/guilty, Red Mantle more so. - Colonel Gathers has chronic "I must cross my arms if I'm not using them," that plus the shades makes it a bit difficult to parse his emotions, but he's hunching his shoulders a lot more than he was earlier, seeming like he's also a little ashamed. - Brock just looks like he was caught with his hand in the cookie jar. - Snoopy's just trying to busy himself with paperwork like he's not there. - Shore Leave is having a reaction similar to Dr. Mrs. The Monarch and looking like a kid angrily in timeout (he's even pouting). Their reactions if anything reaaally just back up what Rusty was saying about them being kids. He's not really wrong, is he?
To be fair to Dr. Mrs. The Monarch, she was the one who got Rusty to call them a child, so it's less her not listening and more pouting that she accidentally proved him right.
Or secret punitive clauses- remember both groups have screwed him and his family over, imagine if the next time they try it turns out its against the treaty. HAH!
The thing people seem to forget about Rusty is that while he may be mediocre as a so called super scientist, he’s a _damned_ good adventurer. He’s learned not only how to survive but to thrive in this world of mad scientists, super powered weirdos, SHIELDesque government agents, secret societies, demonic entities and costumed freaks constantly threatening to exploit, maim or kill him. He knows how these nutbags think, and he knows how to use it against them. If he weren’t so wrapped up in his daddy issues and constantly getting in his own way as a result of his own insecurities or greed, he’d be a force to be reckoned with. God help them all if he ever actually becomes a healthy, functioning individual.
Honestly, thats what makes rusty an interesting character. He is great at the adventure stuff but sucks at the mundane stuff where he struggles to "get his shit together". without the life-or-death situations where he has to be decisive, he is indecisive. Without urgency, he procrastinates or gets distracted. his insecurities, greed and sloth are his big personal failings, but he actually has unrealized potential, which is both interesting, but also sad.
@@colin8696908 Funny enough while his Mini Brother had his life together he really did not seem to do well with the adventure stuff. From arranging parties with Villians next to "heroes" that were clearly doomed to fail, or him not understanding monarch and the whole arch villain thing.
@@BlueHero45 Also, he wasn't raised by Jonas Sr. That was a plus for him, but I don't believe he ever learned that his father was a horrible human being and is the main reason why his brother ended up as he did.
Sometimes, not often, Rusty really shows how smart and pragmatic he can be when he really applies himself. He's not stupid or weak, he just is so scared of failure that he puts in little effort and acts like things are impossible, but when he really tries, he succeeds.
He’s spent so long trying to live up to peoples expectations of his father while a) lacking his father’s skill set and having an entirely separate one and b) his father’s reputation being built entirely on an empire of lies that when he finally stops caring about living up to that myth, he’s a perfectly serviceable individual. He blends perfectly between the various organizations just because he’s equally fed up with all their shit and will call them out for it.
I think thats why his early rivals in the show were "doctor impossible" and an insane brother/clone of himself in a butterfly costume. They just represent his own insecurities.
Lol it's a good thing JJ was never around to hear Rusty call Jonas Sr. a shitty parent. He would have denied it or made an excuse since he never experienced the abuse or manipulation personally.
@@t.c.thompson2359 Her pout is, frankly, super childish and is up there with Brock's open mouthed shock as some of the great expressions of the series.
I was so expecting Dr. Venture to morph back into Killinger and make it a gag where Rusty was off on vacation somewhere but this was 100x better and showed growth in his character.
I love how Rusty has grown throughout the series, in small ways, but they all build up to these moments in the end where he's the only one who can see past the nonsense. Also a huge part of what makes this scene one of my favorites in the whole show is how great James Urbaniak is at delivering these lines.
One of the rare times where Rusty is a great and respectable character. Despite everything, he humbles the leaders of the biggest operations and gets them to settle their stuff like adults.
In Hindsight, Jonas was a bigger failure, as alot of the crap Rusty had to deal with was what his Dad left behind, as revealed by the old venture team later on. Jonas was a super smart and talented Manchild, who quickly got bored with things and did something else without caring what was left when he did. He didn't give a shit about the outcomes of his actions. The amount of people Jonas abused and abandoned to cruel fates that Rusty in later life had to deal with makes Rusty the better man, Jonas' success were a smokescreen to how much of an awful person he really was and if the public knew who he really was, he wouldn't be the celebrated hero he is in the venture bro's world. The worst part of Rusty living his Jonas' shadow is that shadow is a web of lies and misdeeds to protect one man's ego, and Rusty knows that on some level.
Moments like these really show you how, underneath all the self absorption and narcissistic tendencies, Rusty can accomplish a great deal, and be a great voice of reason.
Problem is, in recent times we’ve seen one side unilaterally decide that no negotiation is a viable option especially when their whole goal is to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of the system
It's not weird that Rusty is the voice of reason, it's weird that he talked mad shit to people far more intimidating and threatening than him right to their face. Imagine any other context where Rusty could call Brock, Hunter and Phantom Limb a baby, much less just one of them and walk away being congratulated for it.
The thing is, he talks smack to everyone all the time, including Brock. It probably comes with growing up around folks as high tier as the OG Team Venture and having his childhood be Ground Zero for them all to demonstrate how screwed up they all were, especially his own dad.
Plus, as the moderator for the convention, neither side could afford to alienate him. After all, if the guy who makes sure the scales are balanced is pissed at you, those scales may end up a bit uneven. Plus they don't want to look bad in front of the other side.
Jonas Venture will look at a group of kids fighting during a soccer game and laugh. Rusty would see the same and run up to the kids shouting, “STOP FUCKIN SCREAMING, YOU KIDS WANTED TO PLAY SOCCER SO YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES!!!”- Steak Bentley, The Venture Bros and failure.
My Dad taught me and my brother how to compromise one day by asking what we wanted to eat. We wanted different things, so instead of showing favoritism he said he'd drive straight until we made up our minds. We argued for over an hour, driving from the residential suburbs to the major city in the county off of streets instead of highways. Everytime we passed a restaurant he'd ask us if we wanted it, then we'd argue it out in the car. Eventually we saw a restaurant that, from the outside, looked run down and scummy. It wasn't in a good area, but me and my brother compromised because we were starting to get light headed. The inside of the restaurant had alot of red and gold decor, it looked awesome compared to the shitty exterior. The food was some of the best I ever had, and in the end we learned to not be stupid and try some newer food stuff.
You know, if your definition of fairness is getting everything you want, then going to a meeting like that I’d kind of pointless and might as well default back to attempting to *take* everything you want.
Rusty really stepped it up this season, probably his best moments came from this one. Even though he's still very cynical and disenfranchised with the guild and heroes lifestyle, he still managed to take the role of an authority figure because he alone understands just how idiotic and crazy things can get without somebody putting their foot down to control all the craziness between the factions.
I love moments like these that show that Rusty, although he's not the smartest or most accomplished character out there, showcases an experienced and somewhat wise mind. Under all that egoism, self-centeredness, low-self esteem and sass, there's an actual mature adult that understands things as they are and isn't afraid of calling out people for their immaturity. There was a small but similar moment in "A Very Venture Halloween", when he told Dermott to go back outside and knock the door because he barged into the room, and when he said "Seriously?", Rusty just looked at him and blinked slowly, and then Dermott went and actually did it. It was such a parent move.
0:47 “NEWS FLASH! My dad was a shitty parent. But when my boys cry about fairness, I remind them fairness is the philosophical tooth fairy. THERE IS NO FAIRNESS!!!” Considering at every aspect of his life he gets screwed over regardless of his intentions that statement couldn’t be any more true for Rusty.
I love when people say "getting" like it's some development that wasn't already around. When were adults not in some way angry self-absorbed children? I'd love to hear your response on this.
@@EmptyMan000 There were times when that kind of pettiness wasn't indulged to the kind of degree that it is now. Yes, there was always opposition, that's a given, but you can certainly trace a lot of the vacuous refusal to cooperate to fairly recently. I mean, it wasn't until recent that the supposed leader of the free world would be permanently glued to their phone getting into embarrassing Twitter feuds. And I'm fairly certain the complete lack of self awareness that's also come about is relatively new.
They're not getting childish, they've just stopped hiding the fact that they're whiny fucking children who will fuck everyone else over to get what they want immediately, with zero regard for who they're hurting. Politics has always been disgustingly self-absorbed and manipulative, it's only now that information is vastly more accessible, so the veneer of civility is rapidly dropping.
@@GiratinaofFury I'm glad you're certain, but you're pretty wrong on that too. A lack of self-awareness walks hand in hand with acting childish, mainly because it depends on not thinking one is acting children. All the unreasonable lot think they are reasonable, it's that same self-centered worldview that is often ascribed to children. You say there wasn't a time when it wasn't so divulged. I say you're wrong in that it was always divulged and you just couldn't see, and because you weren't there because no such time existed.
Jonas Sr. was in fact a supervillain that took the most joy in convincing others to love him by making his self serving actions benefit the public JUST enough to be considered a hero. Ingenious, resourceful, and one of the worst human beings ever to walk the face of the Earth.
Rusty as the voice of reason... and a successful one at that. Between this and all, ALL of the super science, Magic, or whatever else (LOOKING AT YOU, MR MURDERBAG), now has the world NOT been obliterated yet?
"You won't get EVERYTHING, but you'll get SOMETHING. Stop with this "fairness" crap and make some compromises. Then go home to your friends and brag about how much you got 'em! OR... you can go back and go 'oH! wE dIdN't GeT _EVERYTHING_ wE wAnTeD, sO wE gOt _NOTHING_ !!! bEcAuSe We'Re BiG BABIES!'"
Doc is the only one in the room with known parenting experience, which is why he is the only one to understand what is happening. (Brock has cared for the boys, but he doesnt really parent them he is still formerly their bodyguard and that dynamic is constant thruought the whole show, even if he does love them. Also he has had illegitemate kids and actively avoids them, ala Spanikopita)
Thank you. The consensus is Brock is the better parent cause he saves the boys and sometimes listens to them, but it feels so much that everyone likes him cause he’s the cool parent to Rusty’s flawed and realistic one
I just love Brock's reaction to being called a child; does he get angry? No, he's shocked and realizes how true it is.
Didn’t catch that, thanks!
Season 1 Brock might've reacted a little bit differently.
@@ASingleSpaghetti It ironically shows that he’s grown up a bit.
@@stingerjohnny9951 It may also have something to do with the fact that this is coming from *rusty* of all people.
he's also shocked because 'wait, when did Rusty grow a spine?'
“My dad was a shitty parent!”
Understatement of the century right there Rusty.
Plus rusty having a shitty parent is one of the most relatable things about him
He named his child rusty ffs
@Игорь Чернышов that's even worse
he was a villain
"Dad" isn't the word I'd use to describe the late Jonas Venture, a more accurate term would be "sperm doner."
Rusty is being magnificently restrained considering he’s faced with the two organizations who, as a whole, represent everything that destroyed his childhood.
Eh his dad did more damage then them.
@tenkenroo his dad was practically a branch of OSI
Edit: and was more in kahoots with the guild than most in universe people realize
And he is now on the same place his father used to be too, both on the literal and figurative sense.
Good point.
They really gave him a massive W in season 7
I feel like this is the moment when Rusty decided to stop living in his father's shadow, and start casting one of his own.
Strangely appropriate.
to be fair, this man has just condescendingly referred to a gathering of high end villains and government agents, one of which being Brock Samson, as children. the kind of equalizing factor when someones going to call you on your bullshit despite how weak they are compared to you is a big power move
Cory Hooper True, but as a counterpoint, Rusty is also wholly unimpressed by these people on a very genuine level. The theatrics, the show of force, the menace; he’s seen it all before to the point of being almost bored of it.
Sure, they could kill him. So what? People have been trying to do that since before he was out of training pants. In a way his ability to not give a fuck about all the pomp and circumstance and cut to the heart of the matter without any formality or concern for social correctness made him uniquely qualified to oversee this summit.
He was always trying to cast a shadow, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Rusty didn't condemn a super successful research and development company to obsolescence, he inherited it in a nose dive that he was even less capable to pull out of than his dad was.
In a world that glorified Jonas Venture (Sr) so far as to glorify his exploits in television (interviews, photo ops) and cartoons (The Rusty Boy Adventurer cartoons), Sr found himself at odds making super scientific ends meet. I'll bet everything he had at one point or another was being developed for someone, _for money,_ to use as a villain (the gas he was using in his underground society, the experimental jet, A.I. tech, a shrink/growth ray). And for every public failing, like the Helper recall, there were a *slew* of private disasters I'm sure they just swept under the rug and those disasters are _costly!_
I would wager Jonas Sr dies on Gargantua-1 after he's exposed for being an underground villain tech developer, slowly turning into a villain over time, and killed before it can be discovered in the past and do something scary like: Turn Billy into the most terrifying villain the world knows because his boyhood hero and idol (son excluded) turned out to be the biggest villain of all!
@@landonletterman831 Jonas's real fate was revealed in the last season.
When you think about it... This summit was never about both groups finding common ground.
This was Jonas' excuse to humiliate both organizations and laugh at them.
Rusty is not only the adult in this scene, he surpasses Jonas by actually making these people find common ground for the better and actually forces them to act like adults.
Jonas was the enabler
Rusty was the wake up call
If I recall, this is like, the second time they've ever done this.
@Oni_Manga_Land i think the summit is yearly but the agreement wasn't changed except like twice
>humiliate and laugh at them
Jonas did that to a lot of people.
So they can get on with killing each other while wearing goofy costumes.
Adults.
Rusty isn't a good parent but hes a better one than Jonas
It's not that hard, but still. Yeah. As much as it hurts to say, informing your kids that total fairness is impossible and that you have to deal with what you got is a legitimate lesson that needs to be taught. Otherwise, you end up will stalemates like this one.
very bismark style diplomacy, get an agreement by making them deal by what they can get out screwing their rival rather than what they get themselves
Pretty sure adults need to take that lesson to heart too, Chris. All diplomatic screw-ups are made by people either not willing to compromise even a little or screwing up an agreement due to ego and feelings of unfairness and last I checked kids weren't the ones making the screw-ups.
By like a smidgen
To be fair, that isnt exactly hard..
"NEWSFLASH MY DAD WAS A SHITTY PARENT" lmao gets me everytime
The saddest thing about all this is how much of Rusty's speech is so applicable to real life.
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Agree, booked marked it and going to let my kids listen to this clip. It's as down to earth to as it gets.
i think the opposite is true too though compromise is a two way street.
If only we had this kind of reasoning in controversial discussion instead of trying to kill one another
Need to play this for Congress.
You know you're immature when RUSTY is the voice of reason.
The best thing about this is that he's pretty damn spot-on with the whole children comparison. The whole superhero/ supervillain/ super spy thing is just a really big game of "cops and robbers" or "cowboys and indians" when you really think about it.
@@Serpentking789 it is not a man's dream but a Boy's Paradise, a never-ending game of cowboys and Indians
Serpentking789 B-Mask actually did a whole video on that exact topic. Basically, you have a bunch of former heroes and villains clinging desperately to the roles of their youth because they are afraid to embrace the larger world that is adulthood and confront their deficiencies as people. They just bury the fighting in a bunch of bureaucratic nonsense to hide how immature the whole thing is.
Which makes it all the scarier since the whole reason for these accords is everyone knows the villains would be way worse without rules to both restrict and protect them; they like using the kid gloves but have access to so much worse. While the OSI barely has the moral high ground given how paranoid, over-reacting and often outright fascist they are.
It's the one case where Rusty's traumatic life actually helps him because he knows all about how this works and has plenty of contempt for and familiarity with both sides, and the point isn't to make either side happy but give them a feeling of stability and establish a status quo.
@@KingOfElectricNinjas so the treaty is the Comics Code Authority?
I like how a good chunk of the characters in this show would a force to reckoned with if they were able to get over some thing about them. Rusty would be a top dog if he could get over his daddy issues, the Monarch would be an outstanding villain if he weren’t obsessed with Rusty, and many more characters have one thing holding them back from being so terrifyingly powerful. It’s nice.
The key to Monarch and Rusty is that they are both half of Jonas. Monarch has all the flair, ambition, charisma and cunning with none of competence. Rusty has all the intellect but can't get past the laziness.
Really, the sanest and most competent and capable person in the whole series has got to be Red Death. Intelligence, flair, sense of morals, epic villainy, and a damn good husband and father. I think the biggest reason he's not even _more_ dangerous is because of his wife's pushing him to hang up his cape, so to speak.
thats why characters like red death, brock and 21 are absolute powerhouses, they have most of their personal issues solved and can actually function logically
And thus, the theme of failure rears it head.
Thing is I’m pretty sure monarchs ability to be a good villain is fuelled by said hatred of rusty, and rusty himself ain’t even that good of a scientist let’s be real
I love the diversity of reactions here (1:10) a little after when the OSI and GCI members are called "children" for the second time, and what the reactions tell about the characters.
- Phantom Limb looks maybe a bit disdainful or like he's just ignoring Rusty, but he could be thinking about it.
- Dr. Mrs. The Monarch is just plain insulted and not giving Rusty the time of day, though she was listening to him for a little while (if you watch you can see when she turns her shoulder).
- Red Mantle and Dragoon both look decently ashamed/guilty, Red Mantle more so.
- Colonel Gathers has chronic "I must cross my arms if I'm not using them," that plus the shades makes it a bit difficult to parse his emotions, but he's hunching his shoulders a lot more than he was earlier, seeming like he's also a little ashamed.
- Brock just looks like he was caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
- Snoopy's just trying to busy himself with paperwork like he's not there.
- Shore Leave is having a reaction similar to Dr. Mrs. The Monarch and looking like a kid angrily in timeout (he's even pouting).
Their reactions if anything reaaally just back up what Rusty was saying about them being kids. He's not really wrong, is he?
To be fair to Dr. Mrs. The Monarch, she was the one who got Rusty to call them a child, so it's less her not listening and more pouting that she accidentally proved him right.
I secretly hope Rusty added a clause where both the OSI and the Guild have to pay him dues.
That was what i was expecting to be in the stinger for that episode. Kinda dissapointed it wasn't.
Or secret punitive clauses- remember both groups have screwed him and his family over, imagine if the next time they try it turns out its against the treaty. HAH!
Ehhh I think he cares too much for Brock to really do that
Guys that does seem like the kind of shady under anything he would do
it's most likely that's the first thing he asked, though I don't see why since he was given his brother company and became extremely rich
OMG. Did Rusty just become the voice of reason? He might actually be better than Jonas Sr.
lets see how this pans out first
Thats... not really a high bar.
@@Lorgar64 Out of universe, maybe, but in-universe Jonas Sr. is still considered a legend.
I mean he got a 15-year-old pregnant but...
Didn't he try to own up to that and get shut down? More than Jonas ever did.
The thing people seem to forget about Rusty is that while he may be mediocre as a so called super scientist, he’s a _damned_ good adventurer.
He’s learned not only how to survive but to thrive in this world of mad scientists, super powered weirdos, SHIELDesque government agents, secret societies, demonic entities and costumed freaks constantly threatening to exploit, maim or kill him.
He knows how these nutbags think, and he knows how to use it against them.
If he weren’t so wrapped up in his daddy issues and constantly getting in his own way as a result of his own insecurities or greed, he’d be a force to be reckoned with.
God help them all if he ever actually becomes a healthy, functioning individual.
Honestly, thats what makes rusty an interesting character. He is great at the adventure stuff but sucks at the mundane stuff where he struggles to "get his shit together". without the life-or-death situations where he has to be decisive, he is indecisive. Without urgency, he procrastinates or gets distracted. his insecurities, greed and sloth are his big personal failings, but he actually has unrealized potential, which is both interesting, but also sad.
It's that was his mini me brother represents. A non toxic more successful version of himself.
@@colin8696908 Funny enough while his Mini Brother had his life together he really did not seem to do well with the adventure stuff. From arranging parties with Villians next to "heroes" that were clearly doomed to fail, or him not understanding monarch and the whole arch villain thing.
@@BlueHero45 Also, he wasn't raised by Jonas Sr. That was a plus for him, but I don't believe he ever learned that his father was a horrible human being and is the main reason why his brother ended up as he did.
I honestly think one day Rusty will accidentally get his shit together and become a threat to the Guild and OSI
Sometimes, not often, Rusty really shows how smart and pragmatic he can be when he really applies himself. He's not stupid or weak, he just is so scared of failure that he puts in little effort and acts like things are impossible, but when he really tries, he succeeds.
He’s spent so long trying to live up to peoples expectations of his father while a) lacking his father’s skill set and having an entirely separate one and b) his father’s reputation being built entirely on an empire of lies that when he finally stops caring about living up to that myth, he’s a perfectly serviceable individual. He blends perfectly between the various organizations just because he’s equally fed up with all their shit and will call them out for it.
I think thats why his early rivals in the show were "doctor impossible" and an insane brother/clone of himself in a butterfly costume. They just represent his own insecurities.
Their reactions to Rusty snapping at them are great
Lol it's a good thing JJ was never around to hear Rusty call Jonas Sr. a shitty parent. He would have denied it or made an excuse since he never experienced the abuse or manipulation personally.
I liked how pissed Miss Monarch got at being directly called children, with him making it clear he meant her to
I mean honestly, I’d probably react the same as Brock if _Rusty Fucking Venture_ suddenly became the voice of reason in the room.
@@t.c.thompson2359 Her pout is, frankly, super childish and is up there with Brock's open mouthed shock as some of the great expressions of the series.
@@t.c.thompson2359 I thought she was getting mad at the guys thing
"Compromise, my friend, is the essence of diplomacy, and diplomacy is the cornerstone of love. Sweeeeeet looooove."
And a good compromise leaves everyone equally miserable. Ergo, love is finding someone with whom you can be equally miserable.
Quite right, Dr. K.! One moment, I'll be up to help you get your umbrella unstuck.
I was so expecting Dr. Venture to morph back into Killinger and make it a gag where Rusty was off on vacation somewhere but this was 100x better and showed growth in his character.
@@richiem5112 Or rather finding someone who makes the misery worth it.
@@AwfulWaffle8474 true
We never really see much of him last season sadly.
0:58
I love how he rolls with that and doubles down on the children line.
I love how Rusty has grown throughout the series, in small ways, but they all build up to these moments in the end where he's the only one who can see past the nonsense.
Also a huge part of what makes this scene one of my favorites in the whole show is how great James Urbaniak is at delivering these lines.
It probably really helps that he's talking to both sides after they've both had major shake-ups with both organizations losing its old guard.
When Rusty puts his mind to it, he can move mountains. Instead, he's so self-absorbed and putting himself in the equation.
This is one of the first times I've been impressed with Rusty.
tarts n sweets same
why do i have a feeling this is going to come back to bite everyone's ass
Wait. Creating Venturestien wasn't impressive enough for you?
Henchman Twenty1 I believe they mean in terms of character, not skill.
@Nohbdy First time for everything.
"Look, you won't get everything, but you'll get SOMETHING! Stop with this 'fairness' crap and make some compromises!"
But to be fair is to compromise?
NEVER COMPROMISE, NOT EVEN IN THE FACE OF ARMAGEDDON!
Diplomacy in a nutshell. A good compromise leaves everybody a little unhappy.
@@TheCockeyez hhhhhhheeeeyyy...that rorshaq reference tho
I think that was the point Rusty was making fairness is often one sided what is fair to you can be unfair to others and vice versa.
One of the rare times where Rusty is a great and respectable character. Despite everything, he humbles the leaders of the biggest operations and gets them to settle their stuff like adults.
We need to have Dr Venture do this in front of congress.
The art of compromise is NO one walks away happy.
"I swear, I will practice more if we ever do this again!"
It's shit like this that keeps me coming back to TVB. :)
Rusty can be greater than Jonas if he just tries, he usually comes across as a failure, be here he schools his dad, the O.S.I, and the guild
Seems fitting that now, in season 7, he's really moving out of the shadow of his father, so to speak.
He had to put away the feelings of doubt, self-loathing, stinking thinking and dilly dallying.
In Hindsight, Jonas was a bigger failure, as alot of the crap Rusty had to deal with was what his Dad left behind, as revealed by the old venture team later on. Jonas was a super smart and talented Manchild, who quickly got bored with things and did something else without caring what was left when he did. He didn't give a shit about the outcomes of his actions. The amount of people Jonas abused and abandoned to cruel fates that Rusty in later life had to deal with makes Rusty the better man, Jonas' success were a smokescreen to how much of an awful person he really was and if the public knew who he really was, he wouldn't be the celebrated hero he is in the venture bro's world. The worst part of Rusty living his Jonas' shadow is that shadow is a web of lies and misdeeds to protect one man's ego, and Rusty knows that on some level.
"What did you guys come here for?!"
"Um!"
"Fine, not guys. What did you *CHILDREN* come here for?!"
Oh my god, rusty actually did something really
cool for once
Nelosn Portis until it backfires
Moments like these really show you how, underneath all the self absorption and narcissistic tendencies, Rusty can accomplish a great deal, and be a great voice of reason.
"[...] Oh, we didn't get everything we wanted so we got nothin'"
I shall remember this quote for ever
That awkward moment when Rusty breaks down partisan Politics in less than 2mins
You beat me to this! LMAO!
Problem is, in recent times we’ve seen one side unilaterally decide that no negotiation is a viable option especially when their whole goal is to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of the system
It's not weird that Rusty is the voice of reason, it's weird that he talked mad shit to people far more intimidating and threatening than him right to their face. Imagine any other context where Rusty could call Brock, Hunter and Phantom Limb a baby, much less just one of them and walk away being congratulated for it.
The thing is, he talks smack to everyone all the time, including Brock. It probably comes with growing up around folks as high tier as the OG Team Venture and having his childhood be Ground Zero for them all to demonstrate how screwed up they all were, especially his own dad.
Plus, as the moderator for the convention, neither side could afford to alienate him. After all, if the guy who makes sure the scales are balanced is pissed at you, those scales may end up a bit uneven. Plus they don't want to look bad in front of the other side.
Jonas Venture will look at a group of kids fighting during a soccer game and laugh. Rusty would see the same and run up to the kids shouting, “STOP FUCKIN SCREAMING, YOU KIDS WANTED TO PLAY SOCCER SO YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES!!!”- Steak Bentley, The Venture Bros and failure.
saw that. great video.
"I swear, I will practice more if we ever do this again!" it shits like that helps put a little giggle in everything.
Rusty's shining moment.
Here he's honestly feeling like... himself, not trapped in the past.
My Dad taught me and my brother how to compromise one day by asking what we wanted to eat. We wanted different things, so instead of showing favoritism he said he'd drive straight until we made up our minds. We argued for over an hour, driving from the residential suburbs to the major city in the county off of streets instead of highways. Everytime we passed a restaurant he'd ask us if we wanted it, then we'd argue it out in the car. Eventually we saw a restaurant that, from the outside, looked run down and scummy. It wasn't in a good area, but me and my brother compromised because we were starting to get light headed. The inside of the restaurant had alot of red and gold decor, it looked awesome compared to the shitty exterior. The food was some of the best I ever had, and in the end we learned to not be stupid and try some newer food stuff.
That is a Fantastic story, thanks for sharing that
Well, what's the name of it?! can't be hogging all the good food for yourself!
@@collinarter2470 It was a Chinese Restaurant, I don't remember the name at all. I've been there twice.
That's awesome
@@collinarter2470 There's a great local Chinese place in Utah called David's Kitchen, if that's any consolation.
I love how even the normally mature Dr. Mrs. The Monarch gets smoked by Rusty when she tries to high-road his use of "guys."
I gotta say, this is the most sense Rusty has ever made.
Compromise is when both parties walk away equally dissatisfied.
Good on him.
I seriously wasn't expecting anything amazing like that from Rusty.
That speech really made the episode.
you can say that again.
"Why do you guys..
Fine not guys, Why do you CHILDREN even come here?"
absolute gold
I like how dr. Girlfriend turns her head. She was like “whatever”
The look on Brock's face when Doc called them children is priceless.
I feel like this video should be played in congress every morning
You know, if your definition of fairness is getting everything you want, then going to a meeting like that I’d kind of pointless and might as well default back to attempting to *take* everything you want.
Both sides start calling Rusty "Dr. Venture." unironically after this.
Dr. Venture finally grows up and takes charge. It only took him 41 years.
Just like Jamie Lannister
@@TheKillingThrow But without the sister banging.
@@TheKillingThrow But without the incest and pushing children out windows.
Rusty really stepped it up this season, probably his best moments came from this one. Even though he's still very cynical and disenfranchised with the guild and heroes lifestyle, he still managed to take the role of an authority figure because he alone understands just how idiotic and crazy things can get without somebody putting their foot down to control all the craziness between the factions.
This is literally one of his most competent moments in the entire series.
I love moments like these that show that Rusty, although he's not the smartest or most accomplished character out there, showcases an experienced and somewhat wise mind. Under all that egoism, self-centeredness, low-self esteem and sass, there's an actual mature adult that understands things as they are and isn't afraid of calling out people for their immaturity.
There was a small but similar moment in "A Very Venture Halloween", when he told Dermott to go back outside and knock the door because he barged into the room, and when he said "Seriously?", Rusty just looked at him and blinked slowly, and then Dermott went and actually did it. It was such a parent move.
Actual moment of maturity, clarity and intelligence from Rusty.
Basically the same speech you gotta give the Stormcloacks and the Imperials during the council at High Hrothgar
International diplomacy in a nutshell.
Pretty much our politics in general now a days.
True
Minus the Rusty factor though.
@@blitzkrieg8776 Could use a Rusty to tell them where to get off......
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this.... Wish we had the Rusty factor tho.
I predict this'll be in a "Best of Rusty Venture"
This is the best put and best explained course of action that I believe arguably everyone needs to hear right now
0:47 “NEWS FLASH! My dad was a shitty parent. But when my boys cry about fairness, I remind them fairness is the philosophical tooth fairy. THERE IS NO FAIRNESS!!!”
Considering at every aspect of his life he gets screwed over regardless of his intentions that statement couldn’t be any more true for Rusty.
This is so relevant to this year(2024) it's almost scary.
Ironically, Rusty's crappy parenting skills allowed him to be a good negotiator
Gotta say, I am shocked seeing Rusty pull off this level of parenting
You don't often get to see Dr. Venture being the voice a reason but God damn does he make a good argument.
If only rusty was there when the company I worked for was negotiating our contract
"I swear I'll practice more if we ever do this again!" 🤣
I love that gag!
Rusty is always the reluctant but effective parent
Dude, when Rusty is the voice of reason..........you need to reevaluate..........EVERYTHING!!
This needs to be played for EVERY Politician EVERY Time they meet up.
When Doc is the adult in the room...
Surprisingly relevant, particularly in a world where the "adults" are getting childish.
I love when people say "getting" like it's some development that wasn't already around. When were adults not in some way angry self-absorbed children? I'd love to hear your response on this.
Huh, didn't notice that the first time through but that's pretty clever.
@@EmptyMan000 There were times when that kind of pettiness wasn't indulged to the kind of degree that it is now. Yes, there was always opposition, that's a given, but you can certainly trace a lot of the vacuous refusal to cooperate to fairly recently. I mean, it wasn't until recent that the supposed leader of the free world would be permanently glued to their phone getting into embarrassing Twitter feuds.
And I'm fairly certain the complete lack of self awareness that's also come about is relatively new.
They're not getting childish, they've just stopped hiding the fact that they're whiny fucking children who will fuck everyone else over to get what they want immediately, with zero regard for who they're hurting. Politics has always been disgustingly self-absorbed and manipulative, it's only now that information is vastly more accessible, so the veneer of civility is rapidly dropping.
@@GiratinaofFury I'm glad you're certain, but you're pretty wrong on that too. A lack of self-awareness walks hand in hand with acting childish, mainly because it depends on not thinking one is acting children. All the unreasonable lot think they are reasonable, it's that same self-centered worldview that is often ascribed to children. You say there wasn't a time when it wasn't so divulged. I say you're wrong in that it was always divulged and you just couldn't see, and because you weren't there because no such time existed.
It was quite shocking to see Rusty acting as an actual, functioning adult for once.
*_fairness is philosophical tooth fairy!_*
i fuckin love Doc in his brilliant cynicism
Let's e-mail this to all our congressmen
A surprising amount of people need to hear this.
I like that when dr Mrs. the monarch is a stickler about the guy comment rusty picks a more condescending thing to call them out of spite.
Probably the best moments of doc ever .
God when will the new season come out .
I started to miss them .
If more politicians were Venture Bros fans, the world would be in a better state right now.
Jonas Sr. was in fact a supervillain that took the most joy in convincing others to love him by making his self serving actions benefit the public JUST enough to be considered a hero.
Ingenious, resourceful, and one of the worst human beings ever to walk the face of the Earth.
Accurate depiction of the Republicans and Democrats trying to approve the next Stimulus Check.
Always accurate
When I saw this episode I was shocked at how competent Rusty suddenly was.
I love the moments where Doc gets to shine.
Somebody needs to send this to congress
Even Brock is acting like a child getting scolded, that's hilarious!
I would pay to watch someone give this lecture to Congress
I know Dr Venture isn’t perfect, but hot dang does it feel alright when he’s the one person who’s correct & everyone else knows they’re wrong.
Can that speech be played at the UN, it seems like it may help....
Holy crap… I just realized that dock is actually the adult in this whole thing
This is the best satire of political compromise ever.
Holy shit! this actually shows that Rusty is capable of learning from his fathers and, even better, his own faillings.
What the... Rusty just owned. Is he allowed to do that?
*leans into a ref* "I'm being told that he can"
He has his moments. Like when he woke up from his coma, took charge, and put Dean in the shower when he had ants on his ass.
According to the new rules he set, he is allowed to own everybody at least once per season
Compromise is the essence of diplomacy.
And love. 🎶Sweet love....🎶
I love conflict and resolution situations like this 👍
Rusty as the voice of reason... and a successful one at that. Between this and all, ALL of the super science, Magic, or whatever else (LOOKING AT YOU, MR MURDERBAG), now has the world NOT been obliterated yet?
"You won't get EVERYTHING, but you'll get SOMETHING. Stop with this "fairness" crap and make some compromises. Then go home to your friends and brag about how much you got 'em! OR... you can go back and go 'oH! wE dIdN't GeT _EVERYTHING_ wE wAnTeD, sO wE gOt _NOTHING_ !!! bEcAuSe We'Re BiG BABIES!'"
Seeing brock dressed down and actually look ashamed is alarming.
Seeing it done by Rusty Venture is the moment you know you fucked up.
They really are just really powerful LARPers huh? XD
That's the point. They wanted to keep playing their game so they created a bureaucracy to manage said game.
this was rusty's time to shine and he get's the recognition, it actually works out in the end, rare in this show
This seems like Rusty's first genuine moment of triumph in the show.
Shore Leave looks so out of place in a dress uniform. Out of place, and uncomfortable.
Ya he needs hot pants with that suit or something
I mean he does look damn good in a turtleneck tho
At least he won the pool fight
It's more than likely that he was wearing his genital formal wear underneath it.
Long pants sap his powers.
Doc is the only one in the room with known parenting experience, which is why he is the only one to understand what is happening. (Brock has cared for the boys, but he doesnt really parent them he is still formerly their bodyguard and that dynamic is constant thruought the whole show, even if he does love them. Also he has had illegitemate kids and actively avoids them, ala Spanikopita)
Thank you. The consensus is Brock is the better parent cause he saves the boys and sometimes listens to them, but it feels so much that everyone likes him cause he’s the cool parent to Rusty’s flawed and realistic one
1:07 - 1:26
Could someone show this to Congress.
Please?
I think this episode was inspired by Congress being near useless the last couple of years.
@@Deadlyaztec27 as well as just general discourse where no one can agree on anything anymore.
"Perfect is the enemy of good"
because we’re big BAY BEEEEEs
I suddenly feel a burgeoning sense of genuine concern, when Rusty is being the reasonable one.