I had a 1987 14' Glasstream in 1988 & 1989 while in the air force and it was one of my favorite boats! I would sometimes fish that thing 3 times a week preparing for tournaments and it was beautiful and trouble free :) I sold it for what I paid for it 2 years later.
You have not ridden in a procraft lmao, they ride so dang smooth, even had guys who have owned stratos, Phoenix, ranger, etc compliment how nice it rides. Not a single issue here. 👎🏼 bad take
I have a 98 procraft. Mine rides good, I havent had the issues you talk about but there are a few things that i dont like. 1. Loses alot of speed in turns and takes a while to build back up. 2. Hole shot is kinda slow. 3. Lots of water coming over the back if you dont make a perfect stop
My father bought a Bayliner in 1989 with a force 125. We ran that boat for 30 years with no problems. Yes it wasn’t the fastest in the world, but it never gave us problems. Just replaced it in 2019.
I must of gotten lucky with my 94 Procraft V-180B had it about 12 years and been a great boat and one of the best riding boats I been in and I've rode in alot of brands lol i have a 2015 skeeter zx250 now also but still love my Procraft and take it out too
My first "big boat" was a winner tournament 2 in 2007. I was 18 and it had been garage kept its whole life and didnt have a scratch on it. I ran it for probably 5 years and loved it. I think that was the first year they didnt out wood in them but i could be wrong
To be fair Bayliners had Forces because they owned Force.... My family had one since new. My dad was meticulous with maintenance and never had much of an issue with it it was 30% less than most other comparable rigs. Of course it was a 1980s glass boat so fit and finish wasnt much even taken care of, and you are right about the ride...
I had a 1997 200 Bass PRO CRAFT with a 200 MERCURY. Most stable boat I've ever been in. Little tough in rough water. Didn't get wet. 67 mph. Loved that boat. Still wished I had that boat.
@@TeamMarineService I LOVE WATCHING YOUR CREATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE ON WHAT GAS YOU WOULD RECOMMEND ON OLDER MOTORS. LIKE MINE... 2003 250 XS RACING. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
Many days I would have loved to have had just about any of those boats! Glad that I now have a tin boat. My first and only glass boat was a 1978 TomBoy. 14 feet of crap with a 35 Johnson! I think I paid like 2800 bucks, boat, motor, trailer. And I was happy cause I could go fishing! Love your videos Andy. You keep it real.
I’ve got a 97 Cajun and it is light years ahead of it’s time. It’s 19 foot, has more storage and handles big water better than any that size I’ve ridden in. Also doesn’t have a stress crack anywhere
Got 31 years out of my 1988 17 foot Bayliner Bass Boat with 85 HP Force. Just repowered it last summer when the Force gave out. It went to the shop only 2 times in all those years. Put a fair amount of bass into the boat as well. All the original accessories are present including seats with no rips and motorguide. Did the radio, the cb, the bilge pump once and that was it. Fresh new Mercury on it with a couple of extra horses and it was good as new. Keeping the water out of them in the off-season, was all anyone needed to do to keep them from falling apart.
Well, you are wrong about the procraft. I owned a procraft back in the early 80ies for 6 years. Absolutely one of the best boats I've ever owned. It was not a wet ride at all and I fished big water like Guntersville, Seminole, Pickwick, Wilson and others. And it was one of fastest boats on the water at the time.
I had to laugh with no.1,omg,Bayliner bass boat,a guy brought one to me for work,said it was porpoising on plane,well he put a merc 150 on it and completely destroyed the transom,it was like jello,lucky he didn't die,then I sold him a procraft 18' that the guy couldn't pay the bill,I scored that day!
Love the list. Owned a 1988 bass trophy with the force 125 new. Loved that boat even though it was junk. Sold it in 2002. That boat is still running the lower Colorado river today. Still smoking and overheating, but never left me stranded. My optimax has let me down more than I can count. Crazy.
I bet you weren’t 25 doing your best impersonating of Bo Duke on Lake Ontario with it! I managed to separate the deck from the hull of my Brute 3 when it was 6 months old. I replaced it with a Ranger and broke everything except the boat. Sheared the bolts out of the trim pump and the upper motor mounts.
I owned a 89 Rajun Cajun that served me well for 18 years and Cajun was a great product until the company was sold and the product went downhill quickly. But why would I try to explain this to someone who endorses Suzuki 🤣
Good list of bad boats except... The Skeeter Wrangler. That boat was innovative for it’s time. Back in the late 70s John Storie bought a Wrangler, brought it back to Mountain Home AK, splashed the hull and used it as the basis of the first Champion Super-V boats. So without the Wrangler, our beloved Champion wouldn’t have been.
1985 ProCraft 1510V with a 50hp Johnson. I must have got lucky. It rides nice, stay dry and very happy with the stability. Planes out nice and handles bends of the lake very well. The Johnson may only do 30mph on a good day, although this ProCraft I am very happy with. Great Shape Too!
I owned a 1996 Cajun 185 for 20 years . Rode decent . It was fast and it got on plane fast. Don’t think it had the fit and finish of something like a Ranger or a Champion but it was a pretty good boat and it lasted a long time.
Bought a new Procraft with the Tower of Power. Took my Dad to Tennessee to Crappie fish. Sitting in the water 24 hours and it was taking on water and sinking. Tried the bilge pump on a new boat and the motor came on but it would not pump. Had to trailer it every day to let the water run out. Got home and sold it to my supervisor at work who was a douche. We weren’t friends after that😂
Just got my grandpas 87 Bayliner bass boat. It’s never had any problems for the past 20 years he has had it. Yes the front deck is a little soft but it’s 30 plus’s years old and I’m 6’3” and 255 pounds.
Man I have a 1992 tidecraft and it's been a very dependable boat. The transom is still in solid condition. Still glides across the lake. I will say the gel coat is getting bad. But as for the hull no soft spots. I will admit I can't afford a high dollar boat and I've kept up with maintenance and upgrades and I've been pleased with this old boat.
I had a tidecraft wildfire,150 merc…fast as hell….broke transom 3 times,split it from bow eye to plug once…my 1st real bass boat….worked on it as much as I fished in it….bought a new 1995 Champ 186,took trolling motor ,graphs,batteries,the Merc 150 and put it on the Champion….cut the tidecraft up with a chainsaw and put it in the dumpster
I have a 1994 Astro still runs like the day I bought it. 135 Merc 17’ 6 paid 14,000. I fish out of it every week. What are your thoughts on this brand. Thanks née subscriber.
Haha, love your videos. I actually have a 1989 Tidecraft with an old Merc 175 Blackmax lol. For as old as it is, it’s still going strong. You can tell it’s a 1989 but it does what I need it to.
Correct on the Skeeter Wrangler. Mine had the deck coming off and looked like it was made by a drunk on Saturday morning. Badly finished gel coat. Also dealer sold it without dual steering and was a bear to drive.
I bought a Tidecraft Spitfire V15 and had to put a floor and stringers in it. Did not have complete coverage of glass and resin on the stringers from the factory.
My dad owned a boat shop in south Louisiana in the 80s and 90s and even though he had new boats he built and sold, his bread and butter was replacing floors decks stringers and transoms in those old skeeters.
My dad had a 1994 Cajun Travis edition 21 1/2 ft with a 200 hp Johnson Venom. it was about 14 years old when he bought it and it was in great shape. The only issue was the typical power pack on the Johnson.
I loved my Cajun. Had a 19' with a Johnson 200 on it. Ran mid 60's all day and rode great! Wasn't the prettiest thing to look at, but it fished well. Only thing I had to do was replace the floor. But, you take almost any 1980's bass boat and they all had wood floor. And they all rotted.
Used to have a Bayliner Bass Striker 1710 with 75 Force (dads) when i was younger. Did have to waste leave time replacing decking one year. Carbs took some getting used to but otherwise no issues. That one did get sold off. We never had another bass boat.
Don’t understand what makes em junk to you,ya don’t explain anything,just an opinion base on colors aren’t your favorite,and the love for the word junk,just cuz ya say it doesn’t make it so!! Happy holidays
I noticed that to....and he doesn't realize he works at a boat shop, so your going to get all the messed up made on a Friday boats....he's not seeing the boats that's been on the water sense the 80s and is still going.
I have a 1990 Cajun Mastercraft Up here in Montana. 3-4 owner boat. Super heavy. The floor is terrible. But honestly, in MT it's hard to find a good fiberglass bass boat under 10 grand thats used. The best part about the Cajun is the Motor. So reliable. The worst part is the hatches are ALL WOOD. There heavy and built with cheap hardware. I also can never find any original or used parts for it. (because it wasn't very popular) Another odd thing I felt was the the seat cushions right in front of the dash and the walk way right up to the Bow of the boat. Someday Ill replace the floors or buy a new boat. But Last terrible thing was the electrical. I had redo ALL of it. and I mean ALLLLL of it. Great video. Thank you.
I don't know much about the Winner Bass Boats, however the Winner Bay boats and sport boats, in my opinion are one of the best boats made behind the Grady White. Why do I say this? The Hull on them is indestructible, they do not have wood stringers and the transom has no wood in them. They are Rot free boats. The Hull itself is over 2 inches thick. I have a 1989 Winner Marathon 2050 and every dealer that has seen this boat has had nothing but great things to say about the design and durability of these boats. These hulls will not crack. This boat has been in my family since it was new, and we have seen 12 Ft swells in this thing. It has taken a beating. It was on a boat lift at my family's property and got a direct hit from Hurricane Ian where it's at in Southwest Florida. The boat lift is galvanized steel, and it broke in half, and 2 pilings broke in half as well.The boat had some minor scuffs on the hull and scratched decals. I took it to a repair shop they inspected it, touched up the gel coat and when they checked everything over and said, these are super strong boats with a solid hull and transom. Then I did more research on them, sure enough found out the US military used Winner Boats for decades because of the durability. But like I said I don't know much about the winner bass boats.
I literally have an appointment to see a garage kept Procraft 1989 195V this week. 200HP V^ Evenrude, two lawrance fishfinders, new minn kota trolling motor, service records, shiny like new, low hours etc... Looks great and was thinking about buying. Would it be okay for local tournaments? Is Procraft really that bad guys?
My first bass boat, before I knew any better, was a Tidecraft. It was awful. Since then I have owned multiple ProCraft boats. The first one was an ‘85 model. Although it did ride a bit wet, it was a good, solid boat. They changed the hulls in the ‘90’s and it was a whole new ballgame. Not wet at all. Rode and handled well. Very fishable. Excellent value. I would love to have another later model ProCraft. His dislike for ProCraft had to be their earlier boats because their later boats were nice.
Have a 1998 Hydrasportsb196 sc. older newer style design by Earl Benz before he formed Triton. No wood in hull. All composite. Boat has been garage kept and still looks great and rides great. Fairly fast hull. Some older bass boats are awesome. I will never sell this boat. Have you ever heard of this model? Not many built or left around I’m guessing.
No, haven't ridden one of those gems. Yet. My question for you Mark is can you get one of Lowrance HDS scope with Active Target Sonar for evaluation? Have any of your sponsored anglers use Lowrance? If you have, how does it stack up to the Hummingbird and the Garmin? Stay safe guys.
Here in Georgia, Glasstream sold a bunch of boats back in the 80s/early 90s. I have fished out of ProCraft and a lot of the Glasstreams. Hey...we didn’t know any better.
Great Video ! Couldn't agree more but please keep in mind yes the Bayliner Bass Trophy was JUNK but the Trophy line is very vast leading into the larger Pilothouse models and yachts . I have a 1982 Bayliner 2270 Explorer built for Alaska and I love it . Orwin Edson was a smart man . Dumped the company off to Bruinswick in 1986 , he saw the jet skis coming to destroy his cheap hydroplane market , along with Bass Pro with their boats . So he stuck with the yacht market and gave away millions to charity . Check out the 1980's Before Bruinswick Bayliner Explorerers & Trophies that were built for Alaska . They're a whole different class of boats . Bayliner was the worlds largest recreational boat manufacteur . Today it's Bass Pro . Didn't they just buy Hatteras ? Great Company .
Hey I have a Suzuki 350 outboard on my boat. I am using the my wedge but don’t want to ruin my seals. Do you recommend a transom saver for the big Suzuki?
Skeeter Wrangler ran super great in 1979 with 150 V6. Not much could run with them on top end. They are splashed off a Hydrostream boat bottom. Fast fast fast. Construction wasnt very good, but the design was right for the era. We sold them !! When you where in grade school.!
I got a 83 Bass Tracker it's nothing special only cost me $3,000 it's in great condition painted up like a duck hunting boat I love it it's Beast get a lot of compliments on it caught thousands of fish out of it. Get er done👍
"GlassStream" i believe is a nod to Hydrostream as they used the ventura and viper hulls basically. same guy that started Champion aka the best of the best. i have a 1990 HydraBass 1700. basically nothing quicker in the 1/8th mile at the outboard drags. considering i got it for free, its an AWESOME boat. so far its taken a big heavy Suzuki DTV6 2 stroke with no problem, and rode so smooth at 80mph you could drive it one handed. since then ive used it to test my rebuilt OMC motors. V4's and V6's and its been wonderful. not sure why you think they are bad other than "the compartments are junk"... but they arent mine are all aluminum like most.and the ride is harsh because again its got a high performace hydrostream hull so its a compromise. but when on the pad, it rides really great. its not a walleye boat!
Before you got to the bayliner....I already knew it was gonna be a bayliner. I had one, worse purchase ever, I felt more confident in my 14' jon boat with a clapped out 15hp. Traded it for a lawn tractor 🤣
I had a Cajun and it was junk. Saw a guy delaminate a Glass Stream the first day he had it on the Hudson. My buddy warrantied 6 Tide Crafts in one year, I think the best one lasted 5 weeks. Good list!
I had a Bayliner trophy bass and yeah it was junk but I rebuilt the whole thing ripped it all out built new decks and wasn't unhappy with it but its heavy as hell.And yeah there's no taking off fast lol
My 1984 tidecraft has one thing to its credit, it floats, I have scrapped everything, all the wiring, I closed all the wells , I repaired the deck in the center and bow. I sold the horrible 115hp mariner that loved to get you out to the middle of the lake and break down. I scrapped the gas tank for a portable and have a 25hp johnson on it now with a tiller. The steering wheel is for my 7 year grandson so he can pretend to drive but other than all that its been good to me. Lol
Completely agree about ProCraft. Fished 2 tournament seasons with a 2005 210 super pro. Very wet and unstable for me. If you came off plane too fast water would come up to the console!
This brings back memories, I had a 1983 Tidecraft Wildfire with a Merc black max 150,had that boat for 9 years before I sunk it .Rough water cracked the hull and down it went,ha ha ,that was a bad day in flat rock! Also had a transom so bad that if you looked back at the motor while running the motor was flopping so bad it looked as though it was waving at you. At that time it was all state of the art , lots of good tournament catches for an investment of 11,000 total ,not the worst money ever spent.But in retrospect you are probably right in your assesment !!
Vexus AVX1880, or 1980 dual console. you can hook up and go fish tournaments. Mine came with dual helix 9s , Ipilot. 36k towed it home. The options mine came with embarrasses my buddy’s for what they had to pay for their rangers /Lunds (pop rivet junk , just paying for the name comes with no options) , talk to Kenny here in Ohio at fisherman’s central. He will hook u up
Worked on every one you named.....100% agreed. I even had to re gelcoat and carpet a chrysler boat with a chrysler 100hp for a customer......im permanently scared for it
Pro Craft was number 10 LMMFAO YOu do realize that clun and Horton ran those boats for a long time. And if you’re hating on a procraft just hate on a nitro made by the same company bro! And they was nothing wrong with those old Cajun boats.
Almost bought a Quantum with a Force outboard for my first bass boat, luckily a buddy talked me out of it. Bought a Champion instead, never regretted buying a Champ! Great list, literally laughed out loud during the list recap!!
I have a 79 Skeeter Wrangler 150. Has the first 150 Black Max on it. Low hours everything works. Garbage yes but I paid 600 bucks for it trailer and all. That is a win for a snakehead boat
I had a winner and loved it after it got me across lake Harris with 6 foot swealso 2 guys with me thought they were gonna die. I had a out of the water numerous times and slam down had it Seven years look as good the day a sold it as a day I bought it.
I fish mostly inshore- I’ve never heard of most of these boats - but brother- I believe everything you said about all of them - because bayliner is by far the biggest piece of flotsam ever made- period
Not gunna lie I have an 87 bayliner 😩 it was given to me so I can’t complain much...and I’ve ran it for 3 years.. I hate it, but it’s honestly not that bad it gets me on the water I just make sure I bring tools and keep the batteries charged in case I gotta troll back to the dock 😂😂😂
Hey this has nothing to do with this video but I just watched an older video where you talked about evinrude ending production, you mention you were excited for electric outboards and I though that was a very good opinion. There’s not much out there but they would be a huge upgrade in every way and be cleaner for the water. Evinrude could come out with an electric motor and just rock the market and it would be very cool. They could easily make one but how much distance could we get and how much do the batteries weigh. By the time I get a boat in about 7 years because I’m 23 I hope to have an electric option. Anyways great video!
Ive seen that bayliner Hahahaha!! It looks awful. However, I had a 95 Astro S-17B with a 120 Force motor. Used that thing for 4 years ALOT! Never had an issue with it. Maybe I sold it just in time.
I always wanted a Skeeter Wrangler, with a pumped up 2.4 Merc, just to say I had the Balls to drive that Chine walkin', turn slidin', piece of chopper gun and plywood over 70. Other than that, yeah you can keep it.
I got a 1996 Cajun 186s. Rock solid boat. Other than carpets, I put nothing into this boat. Why are they gone? Bought by Ranger and ranger closed them.
Love the videos man. I run a 1987 Champion 184 dc super v fish and ski model with a blackmax 200hp. All the goodies, trim, hot foot jack plate. She rips and rides so nice.
@@TeamMarineService Yes, It is holding up very well. I have taken some rough water with it and it rode incredibly comfortably. I have no complaints about the boat. The boat performs like I would expect it too and I have high expectations from a boat.
I own a procraft 200 and can't part with it. I've never gotten wet, and fixed everything that's warn out with ease compared to my 2 rangers and nitro. And at 67mph GPS was faster that the rest
Bahaha. Love it. My very first boat I owned was a Bayliner Capri cobra with a force 125. Learned to work on out boards from that motor, also learned about rot. I have some good pics of it if you want them. Had it torn all the way down the the stringer seats about to glass in New ones when I found the transom rotted out and hauled it off to the dump. Good learning experience is all I can say about it.
Hey Team Marine, do you have a recommendation on where to go to marine mechanic school. And also wanna say thanks again for fixing my destroyed lower during the High school Nationals last year!
84 winner 880 17'6'' 150 Johnson gt 10 years still looks new and awesome ride 67 GPS no jack plate . Winner is the original bass boat. Many others copied the hull design. Stratos POS
My first boat was a 73 Chrysler bass runner with stick steering. Terrible in rough water, had a 65hp evenrude. My uncle had a skeeter wrangler years ago too
I have a Cajun mach vI and my buddy runs a Cajun brat both boats are from 1979 and still out getting it done. There bothe the sparkle blue also. Love these boats the Mach v1 should be talked about more
I had a 1987 14' Glasstream in 1988 & 1989 while in the air force and it was one of my favorite boats! I would sometimes fish that thing 3 times a week preparing for tournaments and it was beautiful and trouble free :) I sold it for what I paid for it 2 years later.
If it was so great, why did you sell it?!?
@@DogGuy19 I got assigned to RAF Bentwaters in England.
You have not ridden in a procraft lmao, they ride so dang smooth, even had guys who have owned stratos, Phoenix, ranger, etc compliment how nice it rides. Not a single issue here. 👎🏼 bad take
That implies that Stratos, Phoenix and Ranger's ride good then right? Lol
@TeamMarineService yea I still have my stratos 201 and love it
I have a 98 procraft. Mine rides good, I havent had the issues you talk about but there are a few things that i dont like. 1. Loses alot of speed in turns and takes a while to build back up. 2. Hole shot is kinda slow. 3. Lots of water coming over the back if you dont make a perfect stop
My father bought a Bayliner in 1989 with a force 125. We ran that boat for 30 years with no problems. Yes it wasn’t the fastest in the world, but it never gave us problems. Just replaced it in 2019.
Wow that's great to hear Keith! Sounds like ya got a good one!
I must of gotten lucky with my 94 Procraft V-180B had it about 12 years and been a great boat and one of the best riding boats I been in and I've rode in alot of brands lol i have a 2015 skeeter zx250 now also but still love my Procraft and take it out too
My first "big boat" was a winner tournament 2 in 2007. I was 18 and it had been garage kept its whole life and didnt have a scratch on it. I ran it for probably 5 years and loved it. I think that was the first year they didnt out wood in them but i could be wrong
To be fair Bayliners had Forces because they owned Force.... My family had one since new. My dad was meticulous with maintenance and never had much of an issue with it it was 30% less than most other comparable rigs. Of course it was a 1980s glass boat so fit and finish wasnt much even taken care of, and you are right about the ride...
Bought a Cajun boat a year ago and absolutely love it!
I’ve got a 1990 cajun with a 120hp Johnson and love it!
i have a 96 ragin cajun 180sc love it rides great
1979 mach vI it’s a sick boat
Love my 1998 Cajun fish and ski with Johnson 150
Love my Quantum! Except I had to replace the decking, carpets, seats, and redo the gelcoat. Other than that...
I had a 1997 200 Bass PRO CRAFT with a 200 MERCURY. Most stable boat I've ever been in. Little tough in rough water. Didn't get wet. 67 mph. Loved that boat. Still wished I had that boat.
Nice! Glad ya had a positive experience with it
@@TeamMarineService I LOVE WATCHING YOUR CREATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE ON WHAT GAS YOU WOULD RECOMMEND ON OLDER MOTORS. LIKE MINE... 2003 250 XS RACING. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
I have the Exact same boat. A bit more stable than my dads Cobra. Rough water, its not near as good as the Cobra, but its not bad to me.
U never owned a ranger lol
@@reddawng43x91 I've owned 3 Rangers. Great boats as well.
Many days I would have loved to have had just about any of those boats! Glad that I now have a tin boat. My first and only glass boat was a 1978 TomBoy. 14 feet of crap with a 35 Johnson! I think I paid like 2800 bucks, boat, motor, trailer. And I was happy cause I could go fishing! Love your videos Andy. You keep it real.
I’ve got a 97 Cajun and it is light years ahead of it’s time. It’s 19 foot, has more storage and handles big water better than any that size I’ve ridden in. Also doesn’t have a stress crack anywhere
That's great! Glad it's holding up for ya!
I’ve got a 1990 that’s amazing!
@@briankron6558 Is yours aluminum? Looking at getting one locally. Would love your opinion.
ya iv got a 96 180sc and it rides great
Got 31 years out of my 1988 17 foot Bayliner Bass Boat with 85 HP Force. Just repowered it last summer when the Force gave out. It went to the shop only 2 times in all those years. Put a fair amount of bass into the boat as well. All the original accessories are present including seats with no rips and motorguide. Did the radio, the cb, the bilge pump once and that was it. Fresh new Mercury on it with a couple of extra horses and it was good as new. Keeping the water out of them in the off-season, was all anyone needed to do to keep them from falling apart.
😂😂😂 I would never spend hard earned money for a expensive Mercury outboard and put it on a 35 year old Bayliner bass boat! 😭🤣
Well, you are wrong about the procraft. I owned a procraft back in the early 80ies for 6 years. Absolutely one of the best boats I've ever owned. It was not a wet ride at all and I fished big water like Guntersville, Seminole, Pickwick, Wilson and others. And it was one of fastest boats on the water at the time.
I had to laugh with no.1,omg,Bayliner bass boat,a guy brought one to me for work,said it was porpoising on plane,well he put a merc 150 on it and completely destroyed the transom,it was like jello,lucky he didn't die,then I sold him a procraft 18' that the guy couldn't pay the bill,I scored that day!
No.... your wrong. You're the guy that would say " I had a toaster once that would shock me whenever I used it...but it made some great toast!" 🤡
Stupid people say stupid things.
I have a 87’ glasstream with a 87’ merc 115 I like the boat. Rides a lot better than i thought it would. Also moves pretty good for a 115.
I bought a brand new procraft in 07 pro 176 with a four stroke never got wet an still running strong
Love the list. Owned a 1988 bass trophy with the force 125 new. Loved that boat even though it was junk. Sold it in 2002. That boat is still running the lower Colorado river today. Still smoking and overheating, but never left me stranded. My optimax has let me down more than I can count. Crazy.
Not a fan of the optimax? I’m about to buy one. Should I be worried?
Got a 96 Cajun Green Bay Packer Green and Gold still running and looking good
Go Pack Go!
I bet you weren’t 25 doing your best impersonating of Bo Duke on Lake Ontario with it! I managed to separate the deck from the hull of my Brute 3 when it was 6 months old. I replaced it with a Ranger and broke everything except the boat. Sheared the bolts out of the trim pump and the upper motor mounts.
I owned a 89 Rajun Cajun that served me well for 18 years and Cajun was a great product until the company was sold and the product went downhill quickly. But why would I try to explain this to someone who endorses Suzuki 🤣
I’ve got a 1990 and love it!!
@@troystockdale5474 I heard Suzuki has a great 4 stroke
Would love to see a top 10 list of dicountiued boat brands. Great video as always from you and the crew!
PLEAZZZZE!!!! Yes, best deal for the money! 115, 150, 200 and 250 boats! Give top 3 boats for each motor level.
Me too! Had a Sprint for years loved that boat ! Zero issues!!!
Well the top two would be champion and then gambler.
Would love to see this. Still running my Cobra 216 every week.
@@alphacapo gambler is still made
I've got a 1977 Cajun I restored, its been in my family since day 1. I like it of course. Sentimental mainly but now just fine!
I’ve never owned a boat but even I got a good laugh about Chrysler making a bass boat 🤣
Good list of bad boats except... The Skeeter Wrangler. That boat was innovative for it’s time. Back in the late 70s John Storie bought a Wrangler, brought it back to Mountain Home AK, splashed the hull and used it as the basis of the first Champion Super-V boats. So without the Wrangler, our beloved Champion wouldn’t have been.
1985 ProCraft 1510V with a 50hp Johnson. I must have got lucky. It rides nice, stay dry and very happy with the stability. Planes out nice and handles bends of the lake very well. The Johnson may only do 30mph on a good day, although this ProCraft I am very happy with. Great Shape Too!
I owned a 1996 Cajun 185 for 20 years . Rode decent . It was fast and it got on plane fast. Don’t think it had the fit and finish of something like a Ranger or a Champion but it was a pretty good boat and it lasted a long time.
I’ve got a 1990 and love it!
Some youngsters dont understand history ?
We sold them for a couple of years and they where good boats
Me and by buddy both have Cajuns from 1979 there both still solid
Bought a new Procraft with the Tower of Power. Took my Dad to Tennessee to Crappie fish. Sitting in the water 24 hours and it was taking on water and sinking. Tried the bilge pump on a new boat and the motor came on but it would not pump. Had to trailer it every day to let the water run out. Got home and sold it to my supervisor at work who was a douche. We weren’t friends after that😂
Just got my grandpas 87 Bayliner bass boat. It’s never had any problems for the past 20 years he has had it. Yes the front deck is a little soft but it’s 30 plus’s years old and I’m 6’3” and 255 pounds.
Man I have a 1992 tidecraft and it's been a very dependable boat. The transom is still in solid condition. Still glides across the lake. I will say the gel coat is getting bad. But as for the hull no soft spots. I will admit I can't afford a high dollar boat and I've kept up with maintenance and upgrades and I've been pleased with this old boat.
Can't say I agree about the Procraft. Grandads got a newer one and its a dry riding boat.
We got an 08 and it’s fast rides nice and it’s dry
I had a tidecraft wildfire,150 merc…fast as hell….broke transom 3 times,split it from bow eye to plug once…my 1st real bass boat….worked on it as much as I fished in it….bought a new 1995 Champ 186,took trolling motor ,graphs,batteries,the Merc 150 and put it on the Champion….cut the tidecraft up with a chainsaw and put it in the dumpster
I have a 1994 Astro still runs like the day I bought it. 135 Merc 17’ 6 paid 14,000. I fish out of it every week. What are your thoughts on this brand. Thanks née subscriber.
@C B best boat I ever owned. Take it our every week.
@@davidkeith8687 good boats. I had a 95 S17 - B . Really liked it. They was popular back 94-98.
Haha, love your videos. I actually have a 1989 Tidecraft with an old Merc 175 Blackmax lol. For as old as it is, it’s still going strong. You can tell it’s a 1989 but it does what I need it to.
Correct on the Skeeter Wrangler. Mine had the deck coming off and looked like it was made by a drunk on Saturday morning. Badly finished gel coat. Also dealer sold it without dual steering and was a bear to drive.
I own a 171 Cajun other than having to replace all of the wood decking with cooks board I love it
That was supposed to say coosa lol
I bought a Tidecraft Spitfire V15 and had to put a floor and stringers in it. Did not have complete coverage of glass and resin on the stringers from the factory.
My dad owned a boat shop in south Louisiana in the 80s and 90s and even though he had new boats he built and sold, his bread and butter was replacing floors decks stringers and transoms in those old skeeters.
Love this, LMMFAO ! Great Video
My dad had a 1994 Cajun Travis edition 21 1/2 ft with a 200 hp Johnson Venom. it was about 14 years old when he bought it and it was in great shape. The only issue was the typical power pack on the Johnson.
I loved my Cajun. Had a 19' with a Johnson 200 on it. Ran mid 60's all day and rode great! Wasn't the prettiest thing to look at, but it fished well. Only thing I had to do was replace the floor. But, you take almost any 1980's bass boat and they all had wood floor. And they all rotted.
My 200 super pro procraft is badass!! Kinda.
Used to have a Bayliner Bass Striker 1710 with 75 Force (dads) when i was younger. Did have to waste leave time replacing decking one year. Carbs took some getting used to but otherwise no issues. That one did get sold off. We never had another bass boat.
I actually won my very first bass tournament from a Bayliner trophy w/ a 60ish HP force. Memories lol.
Don’t understand what makes em junk to you,ya don’t explain anything,just an opinion base on colors aren’t your favorite,and the love for the word junk,just cuz ya say it doesn’t make it so!! Happy holidays
I noticed that to....and he doesn't realize he works at a boat shop, so your going to get all the messed up made on a Friday boats....he's not seeing the boats that's been on the water sense the 80s and is still going.
I have a 1990 Cajun Mastercraft Up here in Montana. 3-4 owner boat. Super heavy. The floor is terrible. But honestly, in MT it's hard to find a good fiberglass bass boat under 10 grand thats used. The best part about the Cajun is the Motor. So reliable. The worst part is the hatches are ALL WOOD. There heavy and built with cheap hardware. I also can never find any original or used parts for it. (because it wasn't very popular) Another odd thing I felt was the the seat cushions right in front of the dash and the walk way right up to the Bow of the boat. Someday Ill replace the floors or buy a new boat. But Last terrible thing was the electrical. I had redo ALL of it. and I mean ALLLLL of it. Great video. Thank you.
Have a 1990 cajun 1850... Use it for inshore/nearshore fishing.. rides smooth, handles perfectly.
I’ve got a 1990 too. Love it!
@@briankron6558 absolutely a bastard to get parts for😂
I don't know much about the Winner Bass Boats, however the Winner Bay boats and sport boats, in my opinion are one of the best boats made behind the Grady White. Why do I say this? The Hull on them is indestructible, they do not have wood stringers and the transom has no wood in them. They are Rot free boats. The Hull itself is over 2 inches thick. I have a 1989 Winner Marathon 2050 and every dealer that has seen this boat has had nothing but great things to say about the design and durability of these boats. These hulls will not crack. This boat has been in my family since it was new, and we have seen 12 Ft swells in this thing. It has taken a beating. It was on a boat lift at my family's property and got a direct hit from Hurricane Ian where it's at in Southwest Florida. The boat lift is galvanized steel, and it broke in half, and 2 pilings broke in half as well.The boat had some minor scuffs on the hull and scratched decals. I took it to a repair shop they inspected it, touched up the gel coat and when they checked everything over and said, these are super strong boats with a solid hull and transom. Then I did more research on them, sure enough found out the US military used Winner Boats for decades because of the durability. But like I said I don't know much about the winner bass boats.
Winner bass boats are fine. Idk what he got into.
I literally have an appointment to see a garage kept Procraft 1989 195V this week. 200HP V^ Evenrude, two lawrance fishfinders, new minn kota trolling motor, service records, shiny like new, low hours etc... Looks great and was thinking about buying. Would it be okay for local tournaments? Is Procraft really that bad guys?
If it's in your price range and you like it then it's perfect in our opinion. It's a very wet ride in our experience
My first bass boat, before I knew any better, was a Tidecraft. It was awful. Since then I have owned multiple ProCraft boats. The first one was an ‘85 model. Although it did ride a bit wet, it was a good, solid boat. They changed the hulls in the ‘90’s and it was a whole new ballgame. Not wet at all. Rode and handled well. Very fishable. Excellent value. I would love to have another later model ProCraft. His dislike for ProCraft had to be their earlier boats because their later boats were nice.
I got a 95 180 b and yea its a little wet but I do enjoy the procrafts I've been in 2 and enjoyed them
No I have had mine for 20 years it's still going strong don't get wet either
Have a 1998 Hydrasportsb196 sc. older newer style design by Earl Benz before he formed Triton. No wood in hull. All composite. Boat has been garage kept and still looks great and rides great.
Fairly fast hull. Some older bass boats are awesome. I will never sell this boat.
Have you ever heard of this model? Not many built or left around I’m guessing.
Hey Andy what is your opionion on the 90s era javelin boats? Thanks for your time
We weren't big fans personally. They were Triton's before Triton.
Had a Bayliner Bass Striker 1810 at one point that had a 85hp Force. Hated the motor but the boat was ok for what it was at the time.
Brown and green bass boats are awesome! I love those 80's colors.
I owned a procraft 1750v. It was an awesome boat
No, haven't ridden one of those gems. Yet. My question for you Mark is can you get one of Lowrance HDS scope with Active Target Sonar for evaluation? Have any of your sponsored anglers use Lowrance? If you have, how does it stack up to the Hummingbird and the Garmin? Stay safe guys.
Here in Georgia, Glasstream sold a bunch of boats back in the 80s/early 90s. I have fished out of ProCraft and a lot of the Glasstreams. Hey...we didn’t know any better.
I have a glasstream and it’s a solid boat. 1985 was evidently a good year lol
Great Video ! Couldn't agree more but please keep in mind yes the Bayliner Bass Trophy was JUNK but the Trophy line is very vast leading into the larger Pilothouse models and yachts . I have a 1982 Bayliner 2270 Explorer built for Alaska and I love it . Orwin Edson was a smart man . Dumped the company off to Bruinswick in 1986 , he saw the jet skis coming to destroy his cheap hydroplane market , along with Bass Pro with their boats . So he stuck with the yacht market and gave away millions to charity . Check out the 1980's Before Bruinswick Bayliner Explorerers & Trophies that were built for Alaska . They're a whole different class of boats . Bayliner was the worlds largest recreational boat manufacteur . Today it's Bass Pro . Didn't they just buy Hatteras ? Great Company .
Hey I have a Suzuki 350 outboard on my boat. I am using the my wedge but don’t want to ruin my seals. Do you recommend a transom saver for the big Suzuki?
Skeeter Wrangler ran super great in 1979 with 150 V6. Not much could run with them on top end. They are splashed off a Hydrostream boat bottom. Fast fast fast. Construction wasnt very good, but the design was right for the era. We sold them !! When you where in grade school.!
I got a 83 Bass Tracker it's nothing special only cost me $3,000 it's in great condition painted up like a duck hunting boat I love it it's Beast get a lot of compliments on it caught thousands of fish out of it.
Get er done👍
"GlassStream" i believe is a nod to Hydrostream as they used the ventura and viper hulls basically. same guy that started Champion aka the best of the best. i have a 1990 HydraBass 1700. basically nothing quicker in the 1/8th mile at the outboard drags. considering i got it for free, its an AWESOME boat. so far its taken a big heavy Suzuki DTV6 2 stroke with no problem, and rode so smooth at 80mph you could drive it one handed. since then ive used it to test my rebuilt OMC motors. V4's and V6's and its been wonderful. not sure why you think they are bad other than "the compartments are junk"... but they arent mine are all aluminum like most.and the ride is harsh because again its got a high performace hydrostream hull so its a compromise. but when on the pad, it rides really great. its not a walleye boat!
Proud owner of a bayliner cobra 1903 with force 150 first boat I've owned. Gets the job done!
Still holding up well for ya Brandon?
@@TeamMarineService second summer with it no complaints engine starts right up
I had a Bass scalper it was my first bass boat. I ran that boat for 5years it was a tank super heavy.
I won my second tournament out of that boat.
Before you got to the bayliner....I already knew it was gonna be a bayliner. I had one, worse purchase ever, I felt more confident in my 14' jon boat with a clapped out 15hp. Traded it for a lawn tractor 🤣
Hahaha solid trade Chris!!!
I had a Cajun and it was junk. Saw a guy delaminate a Glass Stream the first day he had it on the Hudson. My buddy warrantied 6 Tide Crafts in one year, I think the best one lasted 5 weeks. Good list!
The Hudson broke a lot of boats back in the day, Ed. So did the St. Lawrence.
I had a Bayliner trophy bass and yeah it was junk but I rebuilt the whole thing ripped it all out built new decks and wasn't unhappy with it but its heavy as hell.And yeah there's no taking off fast lol
My 1984 tidecraft has one thing to its credit, it floats, I have scrapped everything, all the wiring, I closed all the wells , I repaired the deck in the center and bow. I sold the horrible 115hp mariner that loved to get you out to the middle of the lake and break down. I scrapped the gas tank for a portable and have a 25hp johnson on it now with a tiller. The steering wheel is for my 7 year grandson so he can pretend to drive but other than all that its been good to me. Lol
Completely agree about ProCraft. Fished 2 tournament seasons with a 2005 210 super pro. Very wet and unstable for me. If you came off plane too fast water would come up to the console!
Just bought a 1995 pro craft 180 B lol I hope its not this bad lol
This brings back memories, I had a 1983 Tidecraft Wildfire with a Merc black max 150,had that boat for 9 years before I sunk it .Rough water cracked the hull and down it went,ha ha ,that was a bad day in flat rock! Also had a transom so bad that if you looked back at the motor while running the motor was flopping so bad it looked as though it was waving at you. At that time it was all state of the art , lots of good tournament catches for an investment of 11,000 total ,not the worst money ever spent.But in retrospect you are probably right in your assesment !!
Love the vids and stay safe also keep it up
Thanks Ryan! You stay safe too buddy
Looking to buy my first new bass boat you should do a top 5 for beginners.
Vexus AVX1880, or 1980 dual console. you can hook up and go fish tournaments. Mine came with dual helix 9s , Ipilot. 36k towed it home. The options mine came with embarrasses my buddy’s for what they had to pay for their rangers /Lunds (pop rivet junk , just paying for the name comes with no options) , talk to Kenny here in Ohio at fisherman’s central. He will hook u up
@@bigbeef8935 I'm down in Arkansas there are a couple of dealers a little closer to me but I've been doing hard research on them
@@bigbeef8935 I would not classify Vexus as a beginner boat; at least from what I have heard.
Worked on every one you named.....100% agreed. I even had to re gelcoat and carpet a chrysler boat with a chrysler 100hp for a customer......im permanently scared for it
Owned a Winner for a number of years absolutely loved the boat👍👍
What you think about sprint bass boats i own one and I think its amazing rides smooth and is quick
Pro Craft was number 10 LMMFAO
YOu do realize that clun and Horton ran those boats for a long time. And if you’re hating on a procraft just hate on a nitro made by the same company bro! And they was nothing wrong with those old Cajun boats.
Hey we aren't Nitro fans either! ;)
Almost bought a Quantum with a Force outboard for my first bass boat, luckily a buddy talked me out of it. Bought a Champion instead, never regretted buying a Champ!
Great list, literally laughed out loud during the list recap!!
Wow buy that buddy a beer for sure! Great decision! Haha
I have a 79 Skeeter Wrangler 150. Has the first 150 Black Max on it. Low hours everything works. Garbage yes but I paid 600 bucks for it trailer and all. That is a win for a snakehead boat
That is a win! Great price
Yeah, but Bil Dance's blue and white Procraft sure was pretty, of course he never had to use the big motor...
I had a winner and loved it after it got me across lake Harris with 6 foot swealso 2 guys with me thought they were gonna die.
I had a out of the water numerous times and slam down had it Seven years look as good the day a sold it as a day I bought it.
I had the Chrysler bass boat. Gave it away. The bow caved in on lake Berryessa about a month later 😂
I fish mostly inshore- I’ve never heard of most of these boats - but brother- I believe everything you said about all of them - because bayliner is by far the biggest piece of flotsam ever made- period
What do you think of the Sprint 207 pro tournament bass boat? I know they no longer make them but how are the hulls.
Not gunna lie I have an 87 bayliner 😩 it was given to me so I can’t complain much...and I’ve ran it for 3 years.. I hate it, but it’s honestly not that bad it gets me on the water I just make sure I bring tools and keep the batteries charged in case I gotta troll back to the dock 😂😂😂
Hey this has nothing to do with this video but I just watched an older video where you talked about evinrude ending production, you mention you were excited for electric outboards and I though that was a very good opinion. There’s not much out there but they would be a huge upgrade in every way and be cleaner for the water. Evinrude could come out with an electric motor and just rock the market and it would be very cool. They could easily make one but how much distance could we get and how much do the batteries weigh. By the time I get a boat in about 7 years because I’m 23 I hope to have an electric option.
Anyways great video!
Ive seen that bayliner Hahahaha!! It looks awful. However, I had a 95 Astro S-17B with a 120 Force motor. Used that thing for 4 years ALOT! Never had an issue with it. Maybe I sold it just in time.
I always wanted a Skeeter Wrangler, with a pumped up 2.4 Merc, just to say I had the Balls to drive that Chine walkin', turn slidin', piece of chopper gun and plywood over 70. Other than that, yeah you can keep it.
I got a 1996 Cajun 186s. Rock solid boat. Other than carpets, I put nothing into this boat.
Why are they gone?
Bought by Ranger and ranger closed them.
Love the videos man. I run a 1987 Champion 184 dc super v fish and ski model with a blackmax 200hp. All the goodies, trim, hot foot jack plate. She rips and rides so nice.
I own a procraft and have no problems with it. I dont get wet like this guy talks about. Ever thought of operator error?
Is it holding up well for ya Jaron?
@@TeamMarineService Yes, It is holding up very well. I have taken some rough water with it and it rode incredibly comfortably. I have no complaints about the boat. The boat performs like I would expect it too and I have high expectations from a boat.
I own a procraft 200 and can't part with it. I've never gotten wet, and fixed everything that's warn out with ease compared to my 2 rangers and nitro. And at 67mph GPS was faster that the rest
@@joewinkler2168mine gets me wet alot
I had picked bayliner as #1 and I don't even own one. The ride a had in one was horrendous and it was new! Lol!
Bahaha. Love it. My very first boat I owned was a Bayliner Capri cobra with a force 125. Learned to work on out boards from that motor, also learned about rot. I have some good pics of it if you want them. Had it torn all the way down the the stringer seats about to glass in New ones when I found the transom rotted out and hauled it off to the dump. Good learning experience is all I can say about it.
Hey man you didn’t have to come for my glass treat I love it
Bayliner made a bass boat? Or at least attempted too?
They sure tried to! 🤣
Love this video had to watch it again, keep them coming.
Any experience with HydraSports? Looking at a 1995 185E this weekend
Hey Team Marine, do you have a recommendation on where to go to marine mechanic school. And also wanna say thanks again for fixing my destroyed lower during the High school Nationals last year!
MMI in Florida
@@TeamMarineService can you do a top ten on Stratos boat I own a 21xl pro star
Pretty solid list...I don't think I could add anything to these. Not a big fan of Nitro's overall construction but it's TONS better than all these.
84 winner 880 17'6'' 150 Johnson gt 10 years still looks new and awesome ride 67 GPS no jack plate . Winner is the original bass boat. Many others copied the hull design. Stratos POS
My first boat was a 73 Chrysler bass runner with stick steering. Terrible in rough water, had a 65hp evenrude. My uncle had a skeeter wrangler years ago too
Would love to see some walleye boat comparisons, not just bass boats all the time
I have a 88 15’ Glasstream with a Johnny 110.... it is crap but screams on a smooth day! They are junk LOL Motor still runs strong and Smokey!
I have a Cajun mach vI and my buddy runs a Cajun brat both boats are from 1979 and still out getting it done. There bothe the sparkle blue also. Love these boats the Mach v1 should be talked about more
In Alaska they used to refer to Bayliners as "disposable boats".
That's a nationwide reference 😂
HAHAHA!!!!