@@luisramrod9121well prophet Mohammad pbuh wasn’t an angel he was a human like all other prophets, and when a human experiences something supernatural their first reaction is fear.
Absolutely! We can't use the classical else Qur'an will be a mess all over the place. So you lets stick to Shabir's😊 ....at least that can make Muslims sleep at night without second guessing the Qur'an to commit shirk
It is Allah that deceived everyone into believing that Jesus was crucified and then raised again. Incompetent Allah could not even preserve the gospel message so that all peoples of the world could only have a corrupted gospel to follow. All of the blame falls squarely on Allah.
1:18 A breathalyzer is a device for estimating blood alcohol content, not for determining whether or not someone is still breathing. Please, let the Quran speak more.
God did not make it for all people to believe that Jesus died. Only for the disbelievers. The apostles were the only ones who knew the truth that Jesus ascended to Heaven. This was then written in the Bible for the people who did not know that Jesus ascended to Heaven to know that he did. People did not believe, although God wanted them to know that Jesus had ascended to Heaven. As for this leading to "mass conversion" to Christianity, I don't understand how that would result in that.
I love how he misquoted Hosea (it was talking about the people morning of Christ death and on the 3rd day they will be revived from morning because that's when he comes back to life) and not even use the multitude of scriptures in the actual gospel
When Allah introduced himself to Mohammed as the “Best of Deceivers or Schemers” in Quran 3:54, Allah was un-avoidably (or necessarily) saying to Mohammed, “All my followers are deceivers and schemers.” Thus, it follows naturally that every Muslim who seeks Allah’s favors must adhere (or embrace) some elements of deception called “Taqiyya-lism”. Example: Every Muslim knows about the death penalty for questioning or leaving Islam. In Quran 4:89, Allah says, “…If they turn back (away from Islam), take (hold of) them and kill them wherever you find them…” The “Taqiyya-lism” is unveiled when a Muslim invites you to join the “peaceful” Islam while simultaneously (at the same time) hiding from you the part that demands your death should you leave Islam. * Contrast that with “The True Religion of God”. There is no deception in the Son of God, the Son of David, the Son of Man - The Seed of Abraham. In Christianity, anything less than honesty is evil - the work of Satan, the Curse of God.
3:54 "And they planned, but The God planned, and The God is the best planner." According to my own translation of Classical Arabic which I trust is more honest than your source. Proverbs 19:21 espouses much the same concept: “Many are the plans in a person’s heart, but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails.” (Hebrew is a future project so I'm just using an existing English translation.) As to 4:89, There is no penalty for leaving the religion of Islam. There is a penalty of death for those who pretend to be Muslims but in fact conspire with the enemies of the believers to harm the community. There are no apostates in Islam because there is no compulsion in religion. Apostasy is a Christian belief. The state does reserve the right to prosecute traitors. If your brother Christian became a Muslim you (assuming modern western standards not historical Christian standards) would tolerate that, but if its WW2 and your neighbor became a Nazi spy then he should be put to death. If they are conspiring with murderers to commit murder, are they not also murderers themselves? There are of course many Muslims who love God and do evil in his name because they are ignorant of his word, and there are many non-Muslims who do not love God but are still guided by him to do good on earth. I don't know for certain what I am doing, I am just a man doing my best to understand what was revealed by The Merciful One. Let's take a minute here and walk through what you just said. You are a person who claims the prophet Jesus is equal with The One, which is the most unforgiveable sin according to your own holy book, the Bible. You are a person who puts the writings of liars and conspiracies of pagans before the word, fragmented and misremembered as it is, of the prophets. You finish by claiming that God is Satan, and that those deceived by Satan are righteous. How can you keep on this path and not enter the promised fire that consumes men and their idols? I hope you reflect on this. Warm regards.
@@evanfreshman2450 Quran 33:36 reads, “It is not fitting for a believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision.” * But what is both Allah and Mohammed’s position on one who abandon his Islamic faith? Muhammed says, “Kill him.” - Sahih Sunan an-Nasa’I 4059: Messenger of Allah said, “Whoever changes his religion, kill him.” Does Allah agree with Muhammed - to kill a Muslim who loses his faith? Absolutely yes! In Quran 4:89, Allah says, “…If they turn back (away from Islam), take (hold of) them and kill them wherever you find them…” * Again, it is not fitting for a believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision. * You added this: “Let's take a minute here and walk through what you just said. You are a person who claims the prophet Jesus is equal with The One, which is the most unforgiveable sin according to your own holy book, the Bible.” * You seemed to misinterpret my claim - perhaps, you did it deliberately. But let me correct you about my claim on “The One”. “The One” in this case, I presume, is God. Jesus is not equal to “The One”, but rather Jesus is equal to each one of the other two within “The One”. * Let me say it another way: “The One”, in Judaism and Christianity, is a composite unity of three distinct Persons - (1) Father, (2) Word of the Father, and (3) Spirit of the Father. Jesus is not equal to “The One”, but rather Jesus is equal to each one of the other two within “The One”. * With all due respect to your intellectuality, from the beginning of creation, all peoples, all tribes, and all nations have understood the word “one” as that which is singular (or alone, with no partner); but has within its singularity (or aloneness) a “unity” and a “diversity”. Example: The water molecule is one (single, alone, with no partner). But within the “oneness” of the water molecule, there are two different chemical elements: (1) Hydrogen and (2) Oxygen or (H2O). Time consists of three different periods: (1) Past, (2) Present, and (3) Future. Each period is referred to as "time". * No human being, no science, and no technology know of a kind of “one” in which there is no unity and diversity. * I hope you reflect on this. Warm regards.
They must just go and follow their confused decent of Ishmael, why is even Moses and David in their Koran, confused religion. They lie too and their things are not having a proper prof.
@@123dsj123 As to 33:36, not quite what it says but yes, to not bog down in how its phrased, the revelation of God by his prophet is the law, and to knowingly go against it is clearly sinful. You're citing a rather large book written 300 years later, it contains some 12,000 various historical accounts with impressive citations. You however fail to cite the chain of transmission. an-Nasa'I records that 'Imran ibn Musa said that 'Abd al Warith said Ayyub said 'Ikrimah said Ibn Abbas said that the Prophet said x, and also, you've a very controversial statement and you've chosen the version with no context, 4060 at least has the context. Unless it's in the Quran it's not so simple as Muslims believe Muhammad said, "Whoever changes his religion, kill him." Best case scenario for you what we have is Muhammed's cousin saying, in the years after Muhammed's death, that he heard a rumor that Ali, the prophet's son in law had burned some rebels to death. He then points out that Muhammed had forbidden burning as a means of execution, although he did agree the rebels should have been executed as Muhammad had said to. The only part of it I accept is that Muhammad had opposed burning people. The man said it was wrong when people needlessly killed ants. Okay but that's based on Neoplatonism, not Judaism. I'm not disputing that Paul was a Christian Platonist, I'm disputing that Paul was a Jew given his Greek proclivities, his persecution of the early church, his rabid antisemitism, and hatred of women. There is no trinity in Judaism. God does not have three persons. Originally there was only one God in Christianity. Then they decided that Jesus was also a God but not in the same way God was God. Then they realized that's probably not right, Jesus and God were pretty much two sides of the same coin. Then they got confused about the Holy Spirit, then they had a good fight about it. In the end they decided there were probably three sides of the same coin. No wait that doesn't make sense either... 1600 years later I still have no idea what they're talking about. Neither do you. No one does, because it's irrational.
@@monikatobias7061 If you have questions feel free to ask them. Also, its usually spelled Al-Quran, although in English "The Recitation" is perfectly fine.
It is a Muslim belief that an enemy of Jesus was crucified, so it acts as a punishment for whoever it was, similar to how Allah punished the city of Lut, Ad', Thamud, Pharaoh and his soldiers etc. However, I'm not sure the Qur'an actually mentions whether someone was replaced in place of Jesus to crucified, Allah says: "and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him-it was only made to appear so. Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever-only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him." 4:157 So it could be that it was simply made to appear so. And ALLAH KNOWS BEST.
According to the Quran, This is what Jews said at the time of his crucifixion: “That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah"; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.” Surah 4:157 According to the Bible: This is what the Jews said, when mocking Jesus during his crucifixion. “He trusts in God; let God rescue Him now, if He delights in Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ” Matthew 27:43 Marks account In the same way the chief priests and the teachers of the law mocked him among themselves. “He saved others,” they said, “but he can’t save himself!” Mark 15:31: Which of these accounts of what the Jews said, during the crucifixion, is a better reason to rescue Jesus from the cross? The Quran or the Bible’s account?
How can you believe a man that live over 500years over the eye witness of JESUS Matthew, mark , Luke , and John they where eye witness Muhammad was not
It does not matter when a prophet is sent, truth is truth . Also is paul a eye witness? ”No”. The torah was was thousand of years before the gospels does that mean we cant believe in them?
Funny how the gospel of John was the last written Gospel which was least likely to even meet or see Jesus PBUH and yet its the only gospel to refer to Jesus being God...
3:187. Allah received a pledge from those who were given the Scripture: “You shall proclaim it to the people, and not conceal it.” But they disregarded it behind their backs, and exchanged it for a small price. What a miserable exchange they made.
@@Phantom-xp2co The Bible being corrupted is an inference made under the notions that the word of God has been distorted in the past and that it seemingly does not align. Thus, the most reasonable explanation is what doesn't align is either a corruption or misinterpretation. The Qur'an does not directly state it, it's just a conclusion people have come to
@@imaadhaq540 yes, you are correct. The Quran never said that the Bible was corrupted. If anything it says the opposite, that the Bible and the Gospel confirm the Quran
You didn’t even answer the question WHY DID ALLAH PUT HIS FACE OF THE CROSS. You just keep blaming the christian just tell us IF ALLAH KNEW WHIS WOULD HAPPEN WHY DID HE MAKE IT THIS WAY
The Qur'an openly states many times that Allah is the 'best deceiver'. The Arabic word used here is "ماكر" "maakir", coming from the root m-k-r م-ك-ر, with the word Makr "مكر" meaning deception.
Nope مكر doesn't mean deception it more like cunning or intelligence, it can used both in a positive or a negative context , it's kinda like "they try to dig holes for god , but god digs a bigger hole , and god is the best digger of holes" O Lord, You have deceived me and I was deceived; You have overcome me and prevailed. I have become a laughingstock all day long; Everyone mocks me.(Jeremiah 20:7) Then I said, “Ah, Lord God! Surely You have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘You will have peace’; whereas a sword touches the throat.”(Jeremiah 4:10)
@@ارث-م8ز There is a difference when someone say "you deceived me" then when someone calls themselves a deceiver. Allah calls himself a deceiver of all deceivers. The Lord God/ Jesus never ever refers to himself as the deceiver of all deceivers. He refers to himself as Holy.
I am Muslim . Yet Always notice this dancing technique and get disappointed.But I like him because he sometimes gives some different perspective or atleast address the problem or admit a possible problem is there.
Uncertainty of Jesus death does not explain away how they got a whole other person to look identical to Jesus. This was a weak arguement. There may have been uncertainty of his death, but no inkling of their uncertainty it was Jesus.
"Uncertainty of Jesus death does not explain away how they got a whole other person to look identical to Jesus" The point of the video was not to prove this. He briefly mentions it at the start in attempt to try and follow the thought process *behind* the question, not the answer
And the father? And the holy spirit? Also then you have quite a few kings. and many sons of God. Genesis 6:2 Then the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were very beautiful, and took as wives whatever they pleased. Genesis 6:4 At that time the giants were on earth; and also after the time when the sons of God joined the daughters of men and gave birth to them - these are the warriors who were in the distant past, the highly celebrated ones. Job 1:6 Now it came to pass one day that the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. Job 2:1 Now it came to pass one day that the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the LORD. Job 38:7 under the rejoicing of the morning stars all together, when all the sons of God shouted for joy?
When your Christian Jesus died, the real king who never dies which is “one” saved the real Jesus of Islam the son of Mary (son of man! Looks familiar?) God is one because there’s only one creator and Jesus is a prophet of God: And this is eternal life that they may know you the ONLY TRUE GOD and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. Bingo You deny even your bible, stop worshipping yourself.
The Quran denies that he was crucified at all. That's deception Dr Shabbir and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him-it was only made to appear so.1 Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever-only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.
Shameful to see my comments are being removed by Let the quran speak. What are you ashamed of. Can your quran not stand any critique without you getting so embarrassed you have to censor comments. Shows an underlying weakness on your part. Shameful.
I love in the Koran, where Muhammad was riding a flying winged cow to a temple in Jerusalem. That didn't even exist at the time . But let's not question muhammad you know what happens
There is no such description, winged cow,in Quran, stop making yourself look blinkered on social media, secondly it was the place in Jerusalem, mount temple. the place is significant, surroundings & structural buildings change with. I suppose that wouldn't make sense to you 😂.. the winged cow ws mentioned by some hustorian, so is the deemed a description from God. .No,
They sent a half blind Roman soldier to pierce his ribs to make sure he was dead while on the Cross. Jesus's Blood fell into his eyes and his eyes were miraculously HEALED. Then he said ...." Truly this was the SON OF GOD" . His name was LONGINUS... He left the Roman army to be a follower of Christ. His name became SAINT LONGINUS. He was killed for preaching the gospel. 🙏
I reading the Quran and I wanted to know the opinion of islam scholers about this and also ordinary Muslims! This with open thoughts without prior assessment and I come to realize that they have no answer! They have no answer, the Muslims. What a strange answer he just gave!? a breathing tester? people don't know it back then? They were confused about what they saw because Jesus did not die on the cross, although we know nothing about it and have no idea, but Allah knows best. Wow🫣 and the worst of it is that he does not answer why Allah did this and deceived us, except to say that He did not deceive us, but we deceived ourselves. What!!!!!?
so you're saying jesus asked one of his companions to sacrifice themselves for him? that sounds like the selfishness of kings and men.... surely not the actions of the born prophet.
You cannot tell us here that Jesus was not dead. Because the Bible clearly says he died and rose after 3 days from the dead. As your Book tells the complete oposite. In Islam there is no garanty to go to Heaven. Even Mohammed was not sure where he will go. In the Bible Jesus did not die for a show but he died on the Cross for sacrifice for our sins and to get us out of darkness. Make sure to read the Bible and Compare it to the Quran. May the almighty God guide you. Amin
In your bible people are spoken of as dead, but they are not physically dead in the literal sense, ever heard let the dead bury the dead, one of them was not dead, even the disciples in the bible id not take it as literal as pauline christians, Mark 9:10 They kept the matter to themselves, discussing what “rising from the dead” meant, open to other interpretations
@@youwhat491 you taking verses out of the context. Like the devil when he tried to deceive jesus. Corinthians 6:14: "And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power." Romans 6:9: "We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him.
@@besttutorials4534 even today people on life support machines who end up recovering say 'they came back from the dead', they were dismissed as dead but they came through despite expectations, anyone who has a similar brush with death is called this. what leaves doubts in peoples minds is that only days later on sunday morning, reports of jesus being seen ALIVE, every homicide detective knows you consider a person as dead AFTER they are last seen alive
Then why Jesus was replaced by other person? The act of replacing him is work of Allah correct? My problem is when Allah replaced Jesus with another person. That is 100% act of deception.
@@Heartbreak_Kidd what are you talking about? Allah put someone to deceive eye witnesses. The holy Quraa’n replied to your question in Chapter An-Nisa No.4/157 which states the following verse :- ١٥٧. وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا ٱلْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ ٱللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ ۚ وَإِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱخْتَلَفُوا۟ فِيهِ لَفِى شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ ۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلَّا ٱتِّبَاعَ ٱلظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًۢا 157-(And because of their saying (in boast), ”We killed Messiah ’Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allâh,” - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of ’Eesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ’Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary).)
@@Heartbreak_Kidd He made an illusion to those present to make it appear as if it were Jesus! that is deception plain and simple. God is not a deceiver, the devil is the ultimate deceiver. Jesus even appeared before the disciples after his death to show them the holes in his hands and wound in his side from the crucifixion!. 24 Now Thomas (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.” 26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” 28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
Strangely, u don't know who is the real Jesus In ur bible it says no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; they will lift you up in their hands. So god raised him up and he did not get crucified because ur bible says so
Shabir Ally's dwells on the English rendering of a verb (exepneusen) in verse 37, and doesn't bother to explore the original Greek. He also fails to explore how best to understand the expression. The principle that context should inform meaning, is abandoned for conjecture. He ignores other verses in the same chapter that could've helped him understand the meaning. 39. And when the centurion, who stood there in front of Jesus, saw how he *died,* he said, “Surely this man was the Son of God!” 43 Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent member of the Council, who was himself waiting for the kingdom of God, went boldly to Pilate and asked for *Jesus’ body.* 44 Pilate was surprised to hear that he was already *dead.* Summoning the centurion, he asked him if Jesus had already *died.* 45 When he learned from the centurion that *it was so,* he gave the body to Joseph. 46 So Joseph bought some linen cloth, *took down the body,* wrapped it in the linen, and placed *it* in a tomb cut out of rock. Then he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb. Shabir Ally wants us to believe that if you don't have a breathe analyser, you would be unable to tell if a person is dead. Who is speaking? The Quran or Shabir?
"Shabir Ally wants us to believe that if you don't have a breathe analyser, you would be unable to tell if a person is dead." Not his point. The point he was making is that they only perceived that Jesus was dead without knowing if he was truly dead. The verses you gave of people thinking he was dead/treating him as if so has no contradiction to that
@@imaadhaq540 But why did they come to "perceive that Jesus was dead"? The simplest explanation would be that it appeared so to them. Note that Shabir does not dispute this! But what evidence has Shabir brought to make us think that their conclusion that Jesus was dead was "hasty"? 1. He focused on the English rendering of a verb 2. He appealed to their lack of a breathe analyzer 3. He appealed to Pilate's surprise at Jesus' early death 4. He appealed to critical scholarship to suggest that piercing reported by John was "invented". 5. He appealed vaguely to a prophecy in Hosea 6:1-2 But Shabir fails in all of these points because 1a. He fails to explore how best to understand the original Greek 2b. Pre-modern societies had generally reliable means of determining death -- More so executioners who were in charge of the crucifixion. 3c. He fails to mention that Pilate confirmed Jesus' death with a centurion. 4d. Critical scholarship generally accepts that Jesus was executed by the Romans. The very thing he tries to argue against. 5e. The people or person who is being revived and later restored was "torn into pieces" and "injured" by God. Does Shabir believe that God caused Jesus to suffer on the cross?? And why would God do that? Again, Shabir fails because he is not being honest with the text.
This is relevant, but in my opinion, this may easily be one of the many places where Allah swt speaks in a reversed manner, meaning he uses a word which usually means something, and changes the meaning, for irony purposes and vice-versa, Allah knows best. For instance, Allah tells bad people he will "reward" them with punishment. And now he tells bad people again, that he is a better "deceiver", so they do evil by deceiving, by Allah does good while doing the same thing... So it's funny Christians want to tell us Allah is evil because he "deceives", but they literally mistranslate their scripture and add verses to deceive us into believing in their trinity, which wasn't even a doctrine taught by Jesus pbuh even according to their already twisted records... Subhanallah, you truly shall know them for their fruits. The majority fruits of Islam are people believing what the prophets believe, and acting with good character like them, even dressing like them in white thobes... And the today's fruits of Christianity... are people doing major sins and asking a Pastor to forgive them so they can sin tranquilly again (not all do this, but a lot do) To clarify, in Islam we are also saved by grace, because no one will enter jannah for their deeds... BUT, in our religion we don't put that exposed, it's something more chill, so we don't go wild... In Christianity the main thing they boast about is that they are already forgiven because another person carried the burden of their sins... (which isn't even exactly what their scriptures say btw) And again, if Christian Apologists who critizise Islam showed a great moral character, perhaps I would think "good fruits, they may be in truth" but it's the other way around, David wood is literally a psycopath, and burn's other people's holy book and does filthy stuff... the same with the major ones... Christian Princess is literally a deceiver... why do Christians have a deceiver as the main "anti islam scholar"??? Why? Think about it...
Don't use people unbiblical character to discredit the teaching of Jesus the saviour of the world. Especially when your book says to strike your wife if they disobey you Quran 4:34 Also says kill those who leave Islam Bukhari 6922 To top it off the devil (allah) says to fight the unbelievers Quran 9:29
Up to now Shabir has not addressed the issue of the deception of Allah. He rambles on and on. The question still remains, did Allah deceive the people?
I am so sorry to say this my intelligent lady.... your dad is a very good deceiver just like whoever tries to describe God in the Quran. He is a very smart man when it comes to deception. He has mastered the art of deceit. Wow...this interview was a classic. The Quran translated to English is full of deception. It's something sad enough for Allah to have chosen someone who can't read nor write to reveal his message, it's another tragedy for Allah not to have spoken clearly to his unlearned messenger....now the entire followers and readers would now need to rely on the interpretations of scholars to understand the word of Allah. You can not read Quran today in English and not see thousands of parentheses and commentaries that distorts the entire meaning. THE WHOLE NARRATIVE IS FLAWED MY DEAR SISTER
I don’t know what do you follow but do little research and ask any Arab Christian (Coptic Christian) what is Arabic for God he or she will say Allah. English is not the only language in this world
One second Dr shabila: Jesus was made to look like he was crucified. Next second: Jesus was crucified, but saved at the last second….. How inconsistent are these muslims?
I got “speared” in the side from quite serious appendectomy. But leaving the whole episode of whether crucified or not so doubtful(even Quran doesn’t add anything)God left open an avenue for even Muslims to deny his second coming, and the consequent upon it is the abomination that’ll follow as everyone perched on the seat of Mohammed feels free to pass his dictates
Very respectfully, Judas nor anyone hung on the cross but Jesus himself. However he didn’t die. Matthew 12:38 The sign of Jonah. Was Jonah dead or alive in the belly of the whale ?
Very respectfully, you must let the text interpret itself and not pursue an analogy beyond the intent of the speaker. Jesus was not swallowed by a fish and he did not preach to Ninevah. He did, however, prophesy his own death, submit to his pursuers, speak to his disciples from the cross, lie inside a tomb for 3 days, and resurrect to tell his disciples and the world.
@@QuranforTheWest Matthew 12:38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you." Matthew 16:21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
Please read the entire book of Jonah. You should notice in chapter 2 Jonah shares the prayer he made before the fish took him. Clearly Jonah did die because he said that he called from the belly of Sheol. Do you know what is Sheol? Throughout the prayer it is clear that Jonah drowned and then God brought him back to life and the fish brought him back to land. Just like Jonah did die and did go to Sheol, so did Jesus die and go to Sheol.
They always bring up the Bible lol there religion cannot stand on its own at all. And marks Gospel was through the holy ghost who knew exactly when Jesus last breath was
@@Noxxiie Listen to who he refers to. He will name a scholar and pretend that is all the is necessary to prove his point. That is the Appeal to Authority fallacy.
@@fidelcatsro6948 No, Muhammad made up that Jesus didn't die. Why do you believe Muhammad considering his immoral reputation over the witnesses from the days of Jesus?
@@charlesmuhmanson3928 when talking about events 2000 years ago, you need to appeal to some sort of historical authority. It’s impossible to retell the events from a primary source. So I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make?
BELIEVE IN JESUS GOD. John 1:1, 14 (KJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the *Word was God.* And the *Word was made flesh,* and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:10 (KJV) He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. Luke 1:68 (KJV) Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people. Philippians 2:6-7 (KJV) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Colossians 2:9 (KJV) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. John 8:57-58 (KJV) Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. John 5:46 (KJV) For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. John 8:19 (KJV) Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 14:7-9 (KJV) If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 20:28-29 (KJV) And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. 1 John 5:20 (KJV) And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. 1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. GOD IS LIGHT 1 John 1:5 (KJV) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, *that God is light,* and in him is no darkness at all. John 1:9 (KJV) That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. John 8:12 (KJV) Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, *I am the light of the world:* he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. GOD IS FIRST AND LAST. Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; *I am the first, and I am the last;* and beside me there is no God. Revelation 1:17-18 (KJV) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Revelation 22:12-13 (KJV) And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. GOD NAME JESUS CHRIST. Isaiah 52:6 (KJV) Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I. Zechariah 14:9 (KJV) And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. *WARRING* John 8:24 (KJV) *I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.*
Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. Christianity isn't even based on eyewitness testimony. The closest we have to it are several letters written decades later by someone called Paulos who might have been a Jew, though he prefers to quote Greeks, dismissed the Halakhah, called Jesus a God, made enemies of the disciples, and for good measure hated women. A man who never met Jesus or studied with any known apostles or their known students. Islam has the Quran. Christianity is based on a couple unauthenticated hadith.
Paul met the resurrected Jesus, and his testimony strengthens the testimony of Matthew, John, and Peter. Surely if you reject the first century gospel witness, you must reject the 9th century hadith.
@@peterhwang352 Paul met Jesus the same way Joseph Smith did. There are no complete first century gospels. They were tampered with by later writers. The earliest surviving manuscript of the New Testament is a few words in Greek on a piece of Papyrus from the second century which doesn't quite match the current wording, several words are missing based on the position of the surviving letters, although its close enough that it is definitely part of the gospel of John. I believe that God gave Muhammed authority to legislate beyond the revelation because he was the best of men and knew what God revealed to him to be true. His law is superior to that of any other law, So, as an example, when Muhammed and the Muslims in Mecca prayed Northwest to the alignment of the Kaaba and Aqsa that was not explicitly revealed by God, but it was a good practice. In Medina God commanded them to pray South towards Mecca, this changed the practice from that which was good to that which is better. This is how I understand abrogation. I'm something of a Quranist, or at least Quran first in my thinking. If I knew everything that the prophet said and everything that he didn't say I would obey him. I do not know. I can only use reason.
@@evanfreshman2450 Lack of 1st century manuscripts does not mean the gospels are not complete in the 1st century. So many references to them by the early church fathers, so many historical and archeological references that attest to 1st century composition. And yes, papyrus fragments dating to the 2nd century. Contrast that to the sirah of ibn Hisham, composed in the 9th century, 2 centuries after supposed Muhammad. And what is the earliest manuscript for that? If you want to be consistent, you know absolutely nothing about the real Muhammad or who actually composed the Quran.
@@peterhwang352 The Sirah is a biography about Muhammed. It may well contain mistakes. The Quran is The Book. It does not (I mean there will obviously be mistakes in individual manuscripts, but they aren't passed on indefinitely and allowed to proliferate, they get caught.)
@@evanfreshman2450 Well, you have no idea who wrote the Quran and under what circumstances. It is so poorly written that it provides zero context. It could very well be written by someone with schizophrenia given its lack of context, flight of ideas, delusions of grandeur...
There is no uncertainty that he died on the cross. All of the accounts are the same that he died on the cross. You’re just making things up. Be very careful of this. Read Galatians 1:8. It says if you teach anything other than what is in the Bible, you will be a cursed. Don’t curse yourself!
So does Shabbir Ally basically believe in the swoon theory? But then if that's the case then why would Allah allow such a humiliation of one of the greatest prophets?
This is the actual verse from the koran. Reference: 4 : 157 ( "And [for] their saying, "INDEED, WE HAVE KILLED THE MESSIAH, JESUS, THE SON OF MARY. the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.") Straight away this does not make sense. What Jew in his right mind would say "INDEED, WE HAVE KILLED THE MESSIAH, JESUS, THE SON OF MARY." Not one would say this and claim to be a Jew. The Jewish people were desperately waiting for the Messiah to arrive and rescue them from their enemies. They would have welcomed him with open arms as their Savior if they actually realized who he was.This is where the KORAN gets it BLATANTLY WRONG. To make the Koran read correctly it should say, " Indeed, We have killed the FALSE Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary." The Jews actually thought that Jesus was the false Messiah and that is why they told Pontius Pilate (The Roman ruler at the time) to allow them to put to death Jesus as a FALSE Messiah and they would accept their decision on themselves and the generations of their children after them. For the Koran to get something wrong and so blatantly wrong proves that it can not be from an all knowing, all wise God. Please do not delete my comment as you have in the past but make an attempt to answer my allegations if you are honest.
Which J-w would say this ... Mark 15:32 Let this Messiah, this king of Israel, come down now from the cross, that we may see and believe.” Those crucified with him also heaped insults on him.
@@youwhat491 Thank you for strengthening my argument with the verse from the Holy Bible. Reference Mark 15 : 32. You say " Which Jews would say this.... The answer is, the exact Jews that did not believe Jesus was the real Messiah. The ones that thought the man on the cross was a false Messiah. These are the Jews that prove the Koran is false. The Koran states the Jews said this and I quote. "INDEED, WE HAVE KILLED THE MESSIAH, JESUS, THE SON OF MARY." Again I say " What Jew in his right mind would want to kill the Messiah that they were waiting for.The one that would save them from their enemies?" The Jews that were calling for Jesus to come down from the cross believed that Jesus was a FALSE MESSIAH.
@@momonotever8847 i dont know what you are, are you a Jew or what, it seems you are unaware in both cases they are mocking, and being sarcastic, a reference to the one claiming to be the Messiah, my point is still valid
@@youwhat491 I tried to reply to your comment but Let the quran speak saw fit to remove it. I hope you got to read it before they did so. Shameful on their part that they can not stand any critique of their faith. Shows a definite weakness on their part.
Guys, don’t blame Allah-he just course-corrected seven centuries later! 😂 Here’s how it went down: Allah in the 1st century: ‘Okay, so here’s the plan-I’m gonna make it look like Jesus was crucified. Yep, people will see him on the cross, see him die, and then we’ll spread rumors of him rising again. Oh, and I’ll help his followers share this story far and wide for the next several centuries. Everyone will think Jesus is divine. Perfect!’ Fast forward to the 7th century… Allah: ‘Oof, okay, awkward! Soooo, I guess now’s the time to reveal that I faked the whole thing. Surprise! That wasn’t Jesus on the cross, I pulled a switcheroo and made it look like it. He’s actually chilling with me. But hey, my bad for letting a whole world religion form around this misunderstanding. Let me send Muhammad to clean this up!’ And that’s the plot twist, folks: 600 years of divine “Gotcha!” followed by a new script. It’s like Allah dropped the biggest prank in history and then tried to tell everyone it was just a social experiment. 😂
If you go on to test Allah, Allah (swt) will surely deceive you. Allah (swt) caused the photo-ID of jesus to be dead in the minds of people as mentioned in (Quran Chapter 22 Verses 5, where 'not knowing anything after having known' is equated with death as follows, [.....And among you is he who is taken in [early] death, and among you is he who is returned to the most decrepit [old] age so that he knows, after once having knowledge, nothing. ....]) . Hence Jews and all mankind had no way to find who was jesus and who was not. So no jesus was hanged on the cross to begin with. So there is no deception here.
muslims should not be embarrased in holding to the belief that jesus was not even put on the cross, let alone be killed. Allah can keep his plan secret, especially when the enemy had decided to plan against jesus and keep it secret.
Allah fooled everyone, all the disciples, the roman empire, all the people who knew Jesus and who were present during the crucifiction. The actual translation Quran 3:54 is referring to Allah as the "greatest of all deceivers". Hmm sounds familiar
Allah never deceive his creation, is rather we the humans who deceive our self's , Allah saved jesus while he was present no there no point in the heaven is mention in that Arya, jesus survived crucifixion and travelled extensively to India
You make absolutely no sense at all. At what point was Jesus replaced by someone who looked like him? Why for 600 years no one said or thought like thus? Finally, the koran says Allah deceived people into believing Jesus was crucified. Why? Why would God deceive people about this? You make no sense at all as much if the koran makes no sense.
Dogma won't let an intelligent man think intelligently. Medically speaking resurrection seems more likely than "appearing" to be dead. What's the big hang up? Why can't God resurrect whomever He wants? 😒 🤔
Surah 3 54 states that Allah is the best of deceivers, and so it is necessary for Dr. Ally to explain how Allah deceived everyone. That is why he is forced to do this. But the Christian God is the Way, the Truth, the Life, and the Resurrection!
@@peterhwang352 3:54 "And they planned, but The God planned, and The God is the best planner." According to my own translation of Classical Arabic which I trust is more honest than your source. Proverbs 19:21 espouses much the same concept: “Many are the plans in a person’s heart, but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails.” Not my own translation, we're not discussing the validity of the Tanakh, so I don't feel a need to go in and translate the Hebrew for you. The Quran is very clearly derived from the same source as the Jewish scriptures, either through the will of God or a vast highly implausible Arabian conspiracy.
@@evanfreshman2450 Part of the problem is that many English translations of the Quran whitewash it. The word "plan" does not fully communicate the hostility and deception of the Arabic root "makr". You are sure that if the devil imitates the word of God then they are surely from the same source?
@@peterhwang352 No, most English translations blackwash it. Meem Kaf Reh is to plot or scheme. That is to say to plan in secret. They made plans Jesus did not know about but God knew and God made plans they did not know about and in the end Gods plans succeed and human plans do not succeed unless God allows them to. Muhammed never lied, he only told people truths that they didn't expect. So too God doesn't lie, nor does he reveal himself unless he chooses to.
So he didn'T actually answer the question.Why did he do it?And why lie for 600 years?A lying god?Oh right it's the humans who pulled of this scam,god has nothing to do with it,doesn`t Quran say allah made it look like they crucified jesus..?So allah was the author of it.
@@varunsriram286 They were persecuted by the Jewish authorities for questioning the state of the scriptures. John the Baptist was beheaded and his followers the Mandaeans carried on his message as best they could. There was a plot to kill Jesus which the Quran says failed, but what exactly transpired is unclear. His followers continued his mission but James his disciple and brother was reported to have been stoned to death and the Jewish Christians (Muslims) in Jerusalem were persecuted. Peter was martyred by the Romans, Andrew by the Greeks, etc. Not to mention Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE. There's no record of anything from them, they were martyred and driven underground. The only early source which survives is the portion of the Epistles which can actually be attributed to Paul, and we know for a fact he was not an actual Apostle. The entire New Testament is fabricated. What does God have to do with it any more than he has to do with Hesiod's Theogony or any other work? Is it God's fault that L. Ron Hubbard invented scientology?
These titles are offensive I won't be watching but had to comment, as a Muslim I don't cone this. If its a question asked.... thats a question no need for a video on such a a topic Auzubillah! I have unsurprised. This isn't the 1st time using titles that are not good there are definitely better ways to title the videos I do not care if its " a question thats asked". If its answered, leave the title as q and a on various topics or whatev3r. There is no need to try "grab people's attention"-which is just click bait even if its the actual title of what the video is. Still not needed and again not the first time .
While the phrasing is unfortunate (“they plotted against him, but Allah is the best of plotters”) and it brings Allah down to the level of the plotters, the better understanding of the verse would be as “they plotted against Jesus, but Allah’s Will is mightier than all human plotting”. Again - the writers of the Quran did not think it straight :) If the Christian readers of the Quran understood that the early Muslims were, in essence - followers of Jesus who did not believe that Jesus is equal to God but that Jesus died and resurrected as the martyr of belief - they would drop their hatred toward Islam. The early Islam is nothing like the Islam of today (just like the early “Christianity” is nothing like Christianity today).
@fidel catsro there is no need to tell me to calm so we when 1. No one was at all talking to you I made a comment to the people who keep titling these ISLAMIC videos in like this when there is *no* need.. I do *not* need your reply or anything of the like. Or others who want to comment same nonsense! I made my comment unsubsribed- finished. Like I mentioned in my comment this is not the first time . Keep replying to me or others I will just keep blocking. They keep making titles like this, and others might not also be happy or think it's good God only knows. Its disgusting how some people just try to argue for no reason -I said what said.
@@MBiernat0711 Translation 1- Allah is best of the Planners Translation 2- Allah is the Best of the Plotters Translation 3 Allah is the Best of the Deceivers Translation 4 - Allah is the Best of the Chefs lol Which one is it lol?
It is not the commentaries that claim that Allah deceived but the Quran itself in 3:54. "And they deceived (makr), and Allah deceived, and Allah is the best of deceivers." This is why Dr. Ally is obliged to insert some form of deception into the clear gospel narrative.
naaaah your christian idol deceived you!! Paul, Ezekiel, and Jeremiah said God deceives people (Ezekiel 14:8-10 ; Jeremiah20:7 ; 2Thessalonians2:11-12). -youre welcome! 🐱👍🏿
The 3:54 means that Allah’s plan is to deprive Jesus of life, have Jesus killed - and then “lift” him or resurrect him. The Quran is simply saying that the Jews planned to killed Jesus, but Allah had better plans in that after Jesus died, Allah resurrected him. This is so clear and plain written in the Quran - it is amazing how the Muslim readers are missing it. It could not be more plain to read that the Quran actually speaks of Jesus’ death and resurrection. Ironically- the Quran speaks against people who “twist the scripture” either by their tongues or by writing some other accounts. Can you believe how MASSIVE the irony is here? Virtually ALL Muslim scholars are condemned by the Quran - all those who insist that Jesus did not die nor was resurrected, but create “alternate” interpretations of substitute
Did they have a breathalyzer? Lol. What a terrible assessment made once again made by Ali. As if 1st century Roman’s who specialized in killings couldn’t tell wether a person was dead or not. Ali again shows the Muslim need to make elaborate stories to scenarios to assume their followers that Jesus did not die. Because if he didn’t die, then they don’t have to explain the resurrection, which historians agree died by crucifixion and buried in a borrowed grave by Joseph of Aramatias. This detail alone reflects that the ppl knew where his body was buried and by whom. But mister Ali fails to critically analyze this because you can’t be a Muslim if you state Jesus died, as they claim to honor him as a prophet but deny his divinity. As if God could not raise him from the dead. Jesus stated he would bodily resurrect as this could be empirically tested. The account show he shows himself to others and they were certain he was raised from the dead, to the point they were willing to die. Please read the New Testament on your own and draw your conclusion on what was written, despite Muslims holding that the Bible was corrupted but are will to use it for their arguments to prove a point. Non sense
For a common Muslim there is no difference in basic beliefs and practices of Islam; unless someone want to be a research scholar in Islam then he or she go to the proper school or university that teaches and do research in Islam as if someone want to be medical doctor or engineer will go to medical or engineering school to get appropriate knowledge and education But as everyone cannot be a doctor or engineer similarly not every Muslim can be a research scholar or Aalim in Islam
@@attarehman6030 but there are so many sects and all are in hell except one. The common Muslim nowadays doesnt have many reliable scholars to look up to from whom he can directly ask questions. A Muslim has to seek knowledge and when seeking knowledge is where you find this problem. For the most part you are right and I am just troubling myself too much by these questions which keep me anxious and worried
@@Rushour-16 don't worry, just try to do the compulsory actions as a Muslim, like keeping up with the 5 daily prayers, fasting in Ramadan, and continue to ask Allah to guide you and keep you on the straight path. Perhaps listen to lectures from Nouman Ali Khan and Mufti Menk, they explain things nicely. May Allah SWT bless you and guide you all the way to His Jannah!✨.. Ameen. 🤲🏼
The careful reading of the Quran indicates that, perhaps, the Quran writers very much believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus (and John the Baptist). When the Quran says “they did not kill nor crucify him”, it does not mean that Jesus did not die on the cross. It means that the JEWS did not kill him. Why? Because the Quran believes that when people kill each other it is through the agency of Allah. In other words -/ it is only Allah who has the power to give life and take life back. Also - the Quran believes that those who are killed in the cause of Allah, don’t REALLY die, but it SEEMS as if they died. This phrase (“didn’t die, but it SEEMED as if died”) is used at least twice in reference to martyrs before it is applied to Jesus. As such - Jesus is the most important martyr who died and resurrected for the cause of Allah - and John the Baptist as well (the Quran includes the Sabians and their veneration of John, in its folds). Shabir Ally - maybe instead of studying the Christian scriptures so carefully - it would be better for you to study the Quran??
The Roman soldiers walked right up to him to break his legs but didn’t bother because he “is already dead”.
Repent and believe the Gospel
Go and study your bible orgin😂
@@thamimahmed6108Mohammed started sweating and was scared when he got his first revelations…. angels do not produce these sensations rather peace
@@luisramrod9121 you sure about it?
@@luisramrod9121well prophet Mohammad pbuh wasn’t an angel he was a human like all other prophets, and when a human experiences something supernatural their first reaction is fear.
Amem ❤❤❤
In other words, the classical interpretation can be discarded because for sure it proves your god a deceiver. Well-done Dr Shabir
Absolutely! We can't use the classical else Qur'an will be a mess all over the place. So you lets stick to Shabir's😊 ....at least that can make Muslims sleep at night without second guessing the Qur'an to commit shirk
The later church deceived by turning a man into an idol, its not God' s fault
It is Allah that deceived everyone into believing that Jesus was crucified and then raised again. Incompetent Allah could not even preserve the gospel message so that all peoples of the world could only have a corrupted gospel to follow. All of the blame falls squarely on Allah.
And then Allah couldn't even preserve a decently reliable account of his beloved "my whole reason for creating the universe" prophet!
Ameen
Isnt the Black Stone an Idol or does that argument only work against Christians?
@@peterhwang352 The Bible couldnt even get Joseph father correct, was it Heli or Jacob??? yet you believe what paul tells you on Jesus??
A man came 600years after Jesus to tell us false story
Basicallly 😂
ypu do realize jews can say the same about christians right..
@@luisramrod9121none of your gospel writers wrote when jesus Pbuh was alive
That's one
Go read about the post hoc fallacy
It does not matter when a prophet is sent, truth is truth. Jews will say the same thing, does that mean the gospels are fake?
A New Testament came 1000years after Moses to tell us false stories
I like how respectful and analytical the commentator is
1:18 A breathalyzer is a device for estimating blood alcohol content, not for determining whether or not someone is still breathing. Please, let the Quran speak more.
so what he used the wrong word. he’s not saying thats from the quran.
He wouldn't know he don't drink but You sound very familiar with the old breathalyzer Geezer
Still waiting for the answer … Why god made it so that people would believe Jesus died which would result im massive conversion to Christianit?
Cause he didn’t. We have freedom in Christ
Read first timothy chapter 4 verse 1 and Matthew 24 then u will definitely convert
God did not make it for all people to believe that Jesus died. Only for the disbelievers. The apostles were the only ones who knew the truth that Jesus ascended to Heaven. This was then written in the Bible for the people who did not know that Jesus ascended to Heaven to know that he did. People did not believe, although God wanted them to know that Jesus had ascended to Heaven. As for this leading to "mass conversion" to Christianity, I don't understand how that would result in that.
@@MrDesperate-b9m ur writing ur OWN view?
@@GodIsMonotheism ye sorry i didnt clarify that
I love how he misquoted Hosea (it was talking about the people morning of Christ death and on the 3rd day they will be revived from morning because that's when he comes back to life) and not even use the multitude of scriptures in the actual gospel
When Allah introduced himself to Mohammed as the “Best of Deceivers or Schemers” in Quran 3:54, Allah was un-avoidably (or necessarily) saying to Mohammed, “All my followers are deceivers and schemers.” Thus, it follows naturally that every Muslim who seeks Allah’s favors must adhere (or embrace) some elements of deception called “Taqiyya-lism”. Example: Every Muslim knows about the death penalty for questioning or leaving Islam. In Quran 4:89, Allah says, “…If they turn back (away from Islam), take (hold of) them and kill them wherever you find them…” The “Taqiyya-lism” is unveiled when a Muslim invites you to join the “peaceful” Islam while simultaneously (at the same time) hiding from you the part that demands your death should you leave Islam.
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Contrast that with “The True Religion of God”. There is no deception in the Son of God, the Son of David, the Son of Man - The Seed of Abraham. In Christianity, anything less than honesty is evil - the work of Satan, the Curse of God.
3:54 "And they planned, but The God planned, and The God is the best planner." According to my own translation of Classical Arabic which I trust is more honest than your source. Proverbs 19:21 espouses much the same concept: “Many are the plans in a person’s heart, but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails.” (Hebrew is a future project so I'm just using an existing English translation.)
As to 4:89, There is no penalty for leaving the religion of Islam. There is a penalty of death for those who pretend to be Muslims but in fact conspire with the enemies of the believers to harm the community. There are no apostates in Islam because there is no compulsion in religion. Apostasy is a Christian belief. The state does reserve the right to prosecute traitors. If your brother Christian became a Muslim you (assuming modern western standards not historical Christian standards) would tolerate that, but if its WW2 and your neighbor became a Nazi spy then he should be put to death. If they are conspiring with murderers to commit murder, are they not also murderers themselves? There are of course many Muslims who love God and do evil in his name because they are ignorant of his word, and there are many non-Muslims who do not love God but are still guided by him to do good on earth. I don't know for certain what I am doing, I am just a man doing my best to understand what was revealed by The Merciful One.
Let's take a minute here and walk through what you just said. You are a person who claims the prophet Jesus is equal with The One, which is the most unforgiveable sin according to your own holy book, the Bible. You are a person who puts the writings of liars and conspiracies of pagans before the word, fragmented and misremembered as it is, of the prophets. You finish by claiming that God is Satan, and that those deceived by Satan are righteous. How can you keep on this path and not enter the promised fire that consumes men and their idols?
I hope you reflect on this. Warm regards.
@@evanfreshman2450 Quran 33:36 reads, “It is not fitting for a believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision.”
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But what is both Allah and Mohammed’s position on one who abandon his Islamic faith? Muhammed says, “Kill him.” - Sahih Sunan an-Nasa’I 4059: Messenger of Allah said, “Whoever changes his religion, kill him.” Does Allah agree with Muhammed - to kill a Muslim who loses his faith? Absolutely yes! In Quran 4:89, Allah says, “…If they turn back (away from Islam), take (hold of) them and kill them wherever you find them…”
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Again, it is not fitting for a believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision.
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You added this: “Let's take a minute here and walk through what you just said. You are a person who claims the prophet Jesus is equal with The One, which is the most unforgiveable sin according to your own holy book, the Bible.”
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You seemed to misinterpret my claim - perhaps, you did it deliberately. But let me correct you about my claim on “The One”. “The One” in this case, I presume, is God. Jesus is not equal to “The One”, but rather Jesus is equal to each one of the other two within “The One”.
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Let me say it another way: “The One”, in Judaism and Christianity, is a composite unity of three distinct Persons - (1) Father, (2) Word of the Father, and (3) Spirit of the Father. Jesus is not equal to “The One”, but rather Jesus is equal to each one of the other two within “The One”.
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With all due respect to your intellectuality, from the beginning of creation, all peoples, all tribes, and all nations have understood the word “one” as that which is singular (or alone, with no partner); but has within its singularity (or aloneness) a “unity” and a “diversity”. Example: The water molecule is one (single, alone, with no partner). But within the “oneness” of the water molecule, there are two different chemical elements: (1) Hydrogen and (2) Oxygen or (H2O). Time consists of three different periods: (1) Past, (2) Present, and (3) Future. Each period is referred to as "time".
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No human being, no science, and no technology know of a kind of “one” in which there is no unity and diversity.
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I hope you reflect on this. Warm regards.
They must just go and follow their confused decent of Ishmael, why is even Moses and David in their Koran, confused religion. They lie too and their things are not having a proper prof.
@@123dsj123 As to 33:36, not quite what it says but yes, to not bog down in how its phrased, the revelation of God by his prophet is the law, and to knowingly go against it is clearly sinful.
You're citing a rather large book written 300 years later, it contains some 12,000 various historical accounts with impressive citations. You however fail to cite the chain of transmission. an-Nasa'I records that 'Imran ibn Musa said that 'Abd al Warith said Ayyub said 'Ikrimah said Ibn Abbas said that the Prophet said x, and also, you've a very controversial statement and you've chosen the version with no context, 4060 at least has the context. Unless it's in the Quran it's not so simple as Muslims believe Muhammad said, "Whoever changes his religion, kill him." Best case scenario for you what we have is Muhammed's cousin saying, in the years after Muhammed's death, that he heard a rumor that Ali, the prophet's son in law had burned some rebels to death. He then points out that Muhammed had forbidden burning as a means of execution, although he did agree the rebels should have been executed as Muhammad had said to. The only part of it I accept is that Muhammad had opposed burning people. The man said it was wrong when people needlessly killed ants.
Okay but that's based on Neoplatonism, not Judaism. I'm not disputing that Paul was a Christian Platonist, I'm disputing that Paul was a Jew given his Greek proclivities, his persecution of the early church, his rabid antisemitism, and hatred of women. There is no trinity in Judaism. God does not have three persons. Originally there was only one God in Christianity. Then they decided that Jesus was also a God but not in the same way God was God. Then they realized that's probably not right, Jesus and God were pretty much two sides of the same coin. Then they got confused about the Holy Spirit, then they had a good fight about it. In the end they decided there were probably three sides of the same coin. No wait that doesn't make sense either... 1600 years later I still have no idea what they're talking about. Neither do you. No one does, because it's irrational.
@@monikatobias7061 If you have questions feel free to ask them. Also, its usually spelled Al-Quran, although in English "The Recitation" is perfectly fine.
This doesn’t answer the question about why Allah put a different Jesus on the cross to fool the Jews
It is a Muslim belief that an enemy of Jesus was crucified, so it acts as a punishment for whoever it was, similar to how Allah punished the city of Lut, Ad', Thamud, Pharaoh and his soldiers etc. However, I'm not sure the Qur'an actually mentions whether someone was replaced in place of Jesus to crucified, Allah says:
"and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him-it was only made to appear so. Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever-only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him." 4:157
So it could be that it was simply made to appear so. And ALLAH KNOWS BEST.
@@vibstudios2505Allah is shaytan, you lost child.
@@vibstudios2505 This is not supported by any scripture
It doesn't ever state that this happened
According to the Quran,
This is what Jews said at the time of his crucifixion:
“That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah"; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.” Surah 4:157
According to the Bible:
This is what the Jews said, when mocking Jesus during his crucifixion.
“He trusts in God; let God rescue Him now, if He delights in Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ”
Matthew 27:43
Marks account
In the same way the chief priests and the teachers of the law mocked him among themselves. “He saved others,” they said, “but he can’t save himself!”
Mark 15:31:
Which of these accounts of what the Jews said, during the crucifixion, is a better reason to rescue Jesus from the cross?
The Quran or the Bible’s account?
How can you believe a man that live over 500years over the eye witness of JESUS Matthew, mark , Luke , and John they where eye witness Muhammad was not
Muhamamd ﷺ had eye witnesses lol
@@dd123.- why lie about it ?
It does not matter when a prophet is sent, truth is truth . Also is paul a eye witness? ”No”. The torah was was thousand of years before the gospels does that mean we cant believe in them?
Funny how the gospel of John was the last written Gospel which was least likely to even meet or see Jesus PBUH and yet its the only gospel to refer to Jesus being God...
3:187. Allah received a pledge from those who were given the Scripture: “You shall proclaim it to the people, and not conceal it.” But they disregarded it behind their backs, and exchanged it for a small price. What a miserable exchange they made.
This is according to quran though!
What did they even changed I the book??
Is the Quran we have today original?
Who is uthman, zaid, hafs? Thought?
@@cocoalfaridah5831 yes sister, the Qur'an is original and unlike the Bibles, there is only One Qur'an.
@@Nasema7how can be the Bible corrupted, according to your Quran?
@@Phantom-xp2co The Bible being corrupted is an inference made under the notions that the word of God has been distorted in the past and that it seemingly does not align. Thus, the most reasonable explanation is what doesn't align is either a corruption or misinterpretation. The Qur'an does not directly state it, it's just a conclusion people have come to
@@imaadhaq540 yes, you are correct.
The Quran never said that the Bible was corrupted.
If anything it says the opposite, that the Bible and the Gospel confirm the Quran
You didn’t even answer the question WHY DID ALLAH PUT HIS FACE OF THE CROSS. You just keep blaming the christian just tell us IF ALLAH KNEW WHIS WOULD HAPPEN WHY DID HE MAKE IT THIS WAY
The Qur'an openly states many times that Allah is the 'best deceiver'. The Arabic word used here is "ماكر" "maakir", coming from the root m-k-r م-ك-ر, with the word Makr "مكر" meaning deception.
Nope مكر doesn't mean deception it more like cunning or intelligence, it can used both in a positive or a negative context , it's kinda like "they try to dig holes for god , but god digs a bigger hole , and god is the best digger of holes"
O Lord, You have deceived me and I was deceived;
You have overcome me and prevailed.
I have become a laughingstock all day long;
Everyone mocks me.(Jeremiah 20:7)
Then I said, “Ah, Lord God! Surely You have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘You will have peace’; whereas a sword touches the throat.”(Jeremiah 4:10)
it means planner lol
@@dd123.-he still deceived people
It also means schemer
@@ارث-م8ز
There is a difference when someone say "you deceived me" then when someone calls themselves a deceiver.
Allah calls himself a deceiver of all deceivers.
The Lord God/ Jesus never ever refers to himself as the deceiver of all deceivers.
He refers to himself as Holy.
What a way to dance around the question. Lol.
🤣 you need a breathalyzer test to know when someone is not breathing stupidy is really amazing 🤣😂
I am Muslim . Yet Always notice this dancing technique and get disappointed.But I like him because he sometimes gives some different perspective or atleast address the problem or admit a possible problem is there.
Uncertainty of Jesus death does not explain away how they got a whole other person to look identical to Jesus. This was a weak arguement. There may have been uncertainty of his death, but no inkling of their uncertainty it was Jesus.
"Uncertainty of Jesus death does not explain away how they got a whole other person to look identical to Jesus"
The point of the video was not to prove this. He briefly mentions it at the start in attempt to try and follow the thought process *behind* the question, not the answer
JESUS is king 👑
And the father? And the holy spirit? Also then you have quite a few kings. and many sons of God.
Genesis 6:2
Then the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were very beautiful, and took as wives whatever they pleased.
Genesis 6:4
At that time the giants were on earth; and also after the time when the sons of God joined the daughters of men and gave birth to them - these are the warriors who were in the distant past, the highly celebrated ones.
Job 1:6
Now it came to pass one day that the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.
Job 2:1
Now it came to pass one day that the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the LORD.
Job 38:7
under the rejoicing of the morning stars all together, when all the sons of God shouted for joy?
AMEN 🙏🏾
No he isn’t
He is king but not God 😅
When your Christian Jesus died, the real king who never dies which is “one” saved the real Jesus of Islam the son of Mary (son of man! Looks familiar?)
God is one because there’s only one creator and Jesus is a prophet of God:
And this is eternal life that they may know you the ONLY TRUE GOD and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. Bingo
You deny even your bible, stop worshipping yourself.
The Quran denies that he was crucified at all. That's deception Dr Shabbir
and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him-it was only made to appear so.1 Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever-only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.
Correct!
Shameful to see my comments are being removed by Let the quran speak. What are you ashamed of. Can your quran not stand any critique without you getting so embarrassed you have to censor comments. Shows an underlying weakness on your part. Shameful.
Titus 2:13 Bible . Jesus is God
I love in the Koran, where Muhammad was riding a flying winged cow to a temple in Jerusalem. That didn't even exist at the time . But let's not question muhammad you know what happens
There is no such description, winged cow,in Quran, stop making yourself look blinkered on social media, secondly it was the place in Jerusalem, mount temple. the place is significant, surroundings & structural buildings change with. I suppose that wouldn't make sense to you 😂.. the winged cow ws mentioned by some hustorian, so is the deemed a description from God. .No,
I'll bite:
Can you give me the reference to the verse in the Quran, or did you just make that up
They sent a half blind Roman soldier to pierce his ribs to make sure he was dead while on the Cross. Jesus's Blood fell into his eyes and his eyes were miraculously HEALED. Then he said ...." Truly this was the SON OF GOD" . His name was LONGINUS... He left the Roman army to be a follower of Christ. His name became SAINT LONGINUS. He was killed for preaching the gospel. 🙏
It doesn't say anywhere that he was healed by I can see why you would say that
God nature is truth. So, if that God does deceive, that means that God that deceive is NOT a God.
Is it God who deceived us, oh please
I reading the Quran and I wanted to know the opinion of islam scholers about this and also ordinary Muslims! This with open thoughts without prior assessment and I come to realize that they have no answer! They have no answer, the Muslims. What a strange answer he just gave!? a breathing tester? people don't know it back then? They were confused about what they saw because Jesus did not die on the cross, although we know nothing about it and have no idea, but Allah knows best. Wow🫣
and the worst of it is that he does not answer why Allah did this and deceived us, except to say that He did not deceive us, but we deceived ourselves. What!!!!!?
Who else knows that was some nonsense 😂 but like the bible says you will know them by their fruit.
so you're saying jesus asked one of his companions to sacrifice themselves for him?
that sounds like the selfishness of kings and men....
surely not the actions of the born prophet.
Seem like you don't know the answer, just wait the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ...
We believe in the 2nd coming too lmao
Jesus loves y'all
You cannot tell us here that Jesus was not dead. Because the Bible clearly says he died and rose after 3 days from the dead. As your Book tells the complete oposite. In Islam there is no garanty to go to Heaven. Even Mohammed was not sure where he will go. In the Bible Jesus did not die for a show but he died on the Cross for sacrifice for our sins and to get us out of darkness. Make sure to read the Bible and Compare it to the Quran. May the almighty God guide you. Amin
In your bible people are spoken of as dead, but they are not physically dead in the literal sense, ever heard let the dead bury the dead, one of them was not dead, even the disciples in the bible id not take it as literal as pauline christians, Mark 9:10 They kept the matter to themselves, discussing what “rising from the dead” meant, open to other interpretations
@@youwhat491 you taking verses out of the context. Like the devil when he tried to deceive jesus. Corinthians 6:14: "And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power." Romans 6:9: "We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him.
@@besttutorials4534 even today people on life support machines who end up recovering say 'they came back from the dead',
they were dismissed as dead but they came through despite expectations, anyone who has a similar brush with death is called this.
what leaves doubts in peoples minds is that only days later on sunday morning, reports of jesus being seen ALIVE, every homicide detective knows you consider a person as dead AFTER they are last seen alive
@@youwhat491 Romans 6:10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
Muhammad ﷺ knew where he'd go
1:33 she even lookin at him like “uhhhh”
Then why Jesus was replaced by other person? The act of replacing him is work of Allah correct? My problem is when Allah replaced Jesus with another person. That is 100% act of deception.
He didn't replace him, pay attention. All God did was lift Jesus up to heaven.
@@Heartbreak_Kidd what are you talking about? Allah put someone to deceive eye witnesses.
The holy Quraa’n replied to your question in Chapter An-Nisa No.4/157 which states the following verse :-
١٥٧. وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا ٱلْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ ٱللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ ۚ وَإِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱخْتَلَفُوا۟ فِيهِ لَفِى شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ ۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلَّا ٱتِّبَاعَ ٱلظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًۢا
157-(And because of their saying (in boast), ”We killed Messiah ’Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allâh,” - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of ’Eesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ’Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary).)
@@Heartbreak_Kidd He made an illusion to those present to make it appear as if it were Jesus! that is deception plain and simple. God is not a deceiver, the devil is the ultimate deceiver. Jesus even appeared before the disciples after his death to show them the holes in his hands and wound in his side from the crucifixion!.
24 Now Thomas (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”
26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
It strange Allah not know Jesus Hebrew name 😕
sorry what. quran was revealed in arabia, then it makes sense for him to communicate in arabbic lol
He does
@@dd123.- He didn't. That's what makes it hilarious
@@lahleholivia7398 yes, that is exact. haha
Strangely, u don't know who is the real Jesus In ur bible it says no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; they will lift you up in their hands. So god raised him up and he did not get crucified because ur bible says so
Deceived such that All the people there +Gospel writers agreed that Jesus Christ died
Indeed Allah is the Best of Deceivers
Shabir Ally's dwells on the English rendering of a verb (exepneusen) in verse 37, and doesn't bother to explore the original Greek. He also fails to explore how best to understand the expression.
The principle that context should inform meaning, is abandoned for conjecture. He ignores other verses in the same chapter that could've helped him understand the meaning.
39. And when the centurion, who stood there in front of Jesus, saw how he *died,* he said, “Surely this man was the Son of God!”
43 Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent member of the Council, who was himself waiting for the kingdom of God, went boldly to Pilate and asked for *Jesus’ body.*
44 Pilate was surprised to hear that he was already *dead.* Summoning the centurion, he asked him if Jesus had already *died.*
45 When he learned from the centurion that *it was so,* he gave the body to Joseph.
46 So Joseph bought some linen cloth, *took down the body,* wrapped it in the linen, and placed *it* in a tomb cut out of rock. Then he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb.
Shabir Ally wants us to believe that if you don't have a breathe analyser, you would be unable to tell if a person is dead.
Who is speaking? The Quran or Shabir?
"Shabir Ally wants us to believe that if you don't have a breathe analyser, you would be unable to tell if a person is dead."
Not his point. The point he was making is that they only perceived that Jesus was dead without knowing if he was truly dead. The verses you gave of people thinking he was dead/treating him as if so has no contradiction to that
@@imaadhaq540 But why did they come to "perceive that Jesus was dead"? The simplest explanation would be that it appeared so to them. Note that Shabir does not dispute this!
But what evidence has Shabir brought to make us think that their conclusion that Jesus was dead was "hasty"?
1. He focused on the English rendering of a verb
2. He appealed to their lack of a breathe analyzer
3. He appealed to Pilate's surprise at Jesus' early death
4. He appealed to critical scholarship to suggest that piercing reported by John was "invented".
5. He appealed vaguely to a prophecy in Hosea 6:1-2
But Shabir fails in all of these points because
1a. He fails to explore how best to understand the original Greek
2b. Pre-modern societies had generally reliable means of determining death -- More so executioners who were in charge of the crucifixion.
3c. He fails to mention that Pilate confirmed Jesus' death with a centurion.
4d. Critical scholarship generally accepts that Jesus was executed by the Romans. The very thing he tries to argue against.
5e. The people or person who is being revived and later restored was "torn into pieces" and "injured" by God. Does Shabir believe that God caused Jesus to suffer on the cross?? And why would God do that?
Again, Shabir fails because he is not being honest with the text.
This is relevant, but in my opinion, this may easily be one of the many places where Allah swt speaks in a reversed manner, meaning he uses a word which usually means something, and changes the meaning, for irony purposes and vice-versa, Allah knows best.
For instance, Allah tells bad people he will "reward" them with punishment.
And now he tells bad people again, that he is a better "deceiver", so they do evil by deceiving, by Allah does good while doing the same thing...
So it's funny Christians want to tell us Allah is evil because he "deceives", but they literally mistranslate their scripture and add verses to deceive us into believing in their trinity, which wasn't even a doctrine taught by Jesus pbuh even according to their already twisted records...
Subhanallah, you truly shall know them for their fruits.
The majority fruits of Islam are people believing what the prophets believe, and acting with good character like them, even dressing like them in white thobes...
And the today's fruits of Christianity... are people doing major sins and asking a Pastor to forgive them so they can sin tranquilly again (not all do this, but a lot do)
To clarify, in Islam we are also saved by grace, because no one will enter jannah for their deeds... BUT, in our religion we don't put that exposed, it's something more chill, so we don't go wild...
In Christianity the main thing they boast about is that they are already forgiven because another person carried the burden of their sins... (which isn't even exactly what their scriptures say btw)
And again, if Christian Apologists who critizise Islam showed a great moral character, perhaps I would think "good fruits, they may be in truth" but it's the other way around, David wood is literally a psycopath, and burn's other people's holy book and does filthy stuff... the same with the major ones... Christian Princess is literally a deceiver... why do Christians have a deceiver as the main "anti islam scholar"??? Why? Think about it...
Don't use people unbiblical character to discredit the teaching of Jesus the saviour of the world. Especially when your book says to strike your wife if they disobey you Quran 4:34
Also says kill those who leave Islam Bukhari 6922
To top it off the devil (allah) says to fight the unbelievers Quran 9:29
Up to now Shabir has not addressed the issue of the deception of Allah. He rambles on and on. The question still remains, did Allah deceive the people?
The God in the Bible doesnt misleads people, only Satan does.
I am so sorry to say this my intelligent lady.... your dad is a very good deceiver just like whoever tries to describe God in the Quran.
He is a very smart man when it comes to deception. He has mastered the art of deceit.
Wow...this interview was a classic.
The Quran translated to English is full of deception.
It's something sad enough for Allah to have chosen someone who can't read nor write to reveal his message, it's another tragedy for Allah not to have spoken clearly to his unlearned messenger....now the entire followers and readers would now need to rely on the interpretations of scholars to understand the word of Allah.
You can not read Quran today in English and not see thousands of parentheses and commentaries that distorts the entire meaning.
THE WHOLE NARRATIVE IS FLAWED MY DEAR SISTER
I don’t know what do you follow but do little research and ask any Arab Christian (Coptic Christian) what is Arabic for God he or she will say Allah. English is not the only language in this world
@@attarehman6030 God does not deceive.
One second Dr shabila: Jesus was made to look like he was crucified.
Next second: Jesus was crucified, but saved at the last second….. How inconsistent are these muslims?
I got “speared” in the side from quite serious appendectomy. But leaving the whole episode of whether crucified or not so doubtful(even Quran doesn’t add anything)God left open an avenue for even Muslims to deny his second coming, and the consequent upon it is the abomination that’ll follow as everyone perched on the seat of Mohammed feels free to pass his dictates
Like... What?
What part of being crucified, stabbed in the side by a spear, and thrown in a grave for three days is ambiguous to you?
@@franciscoscaramanga9396 I have no recollection that it happened to me. How’s that?
Very respectfully,
Judas nor anyone hung on the cross but Jesus himself. However he didn’t die.
Matthew 12:38
The sign of Jonah.
Was Jonah dead or alive in the belly of the whale ?
Very respectfully, you must let the text interpret itself and not pursue an analogy beyond the intent of the speaker. Jesus was not swallowed by a fish and he did not preach to Ninevah. He did, however, prophesy his own death, submit to his pursuers, speak to his disciples from the cross, lie inside a tomb for 3 days, and resurrect to tell his disciples and the world.
@@peterhwang352 Matthew 12:38
@@QuranforTheWest Yes? Jesus draws a comparison with Jonah...
@@QuranforTheWest
Matthew 12:38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you."
Matthew 16:21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
Please read the entire book of Jonah. You should notice in chapter 2 Jonah shares the prayer he made before the fish took him. Clearly Jonah did die because he said that he called from the belly of Sheol. Do you know what is Sheol? Throughout the prayer it is clear that Jonah drowned and then God brought him back to life and the fish brought him back to land.
Just like Jonah did die and did go to Sheol, so did Jesus die and go to Sheol.
They always bring up the Bible lol there religion cannot stand on its own at all. And marks Gospel was through the holy ghost who knew exactly when Jesus last breath was
Dr. Shabir is using the Appeal to authority fallacy with claiming Jesus did not die.
of cos Jesus didnt die, your church made it all up!
And who’s authority are you suggesting he is appealing to?
@@Noxxiie Listen to who he refers to. He will name a scholar and pretend that is all the is necessary to prove his point. That is the Appeal to Authority fallacy.
@@fidelcatsro6948 No, Muhammad made up that Jesus didn't die. Why do you believe Muhammad considering his immoral reputation over the witnesses from the days of Jesus?
@@charlesmuhmanson3928 when talking about events 2000 years ago, you need to appeal to some sort of historical authority. It’s impossible to retell the events from a primary source. So I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make?
BELIEVE IN JESUS GOD.
John 1:1, 14 (KJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the *Word was God.*
And the *Word was made flesh,* and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 1:10 (KJV) He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Luke 1:68 (KJV) Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people.
Philippians 2:6-7 (KJV) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Colossians 2:9 (KJV) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
John 8:57-58 (KJV) Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.
John 5:46 (KJV) For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
John 8:19 (KJV) Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
John 14:7-9 (KJV) If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 20:28-29 (KJV) And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
1 John 5:20 (KJV) And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
GOD IS LIGHT
1 John 1:5 (KJV) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, *that God is light,* and in him is no darkness at all.
John 1:9 (KJV) That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
John 8:12 (KJV) Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, *I am the light of the world:* he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
GOD IS FIRST AND LAST.
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; *I am the first, and I am the last;* and beside me there is no God.
Revelation 1:17-18 (KJV) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Revelation 22:12-13 (KJV) And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
GOD NAME JESUS CHRIST.
Isaiah 52:6 (KJV) Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
Zechariah 14:9 (KJV) And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
*WARRING*
John 8:24 (KJV) *I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.*
Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. Christianity isn't even based on eyewitness testimony. The closest we have to it are several letters written decades later by someone called Paulos who might have been a Jew, though he prefers to quote Greeks, dismissed the Halakhah, called Jesus a God, made enemies of the disciples, and for good measure hated women. A man who never met Jesus or studied with any known apostles or their known students. Islam has the Quran. Christianity is based on a couple unauthenticated hadith.
Paul met the resurrected Jesus, and his testimony strengthens the testimony of Matthew, John, and Peter. Surely if you reject the first century gospel witness, you must reject the 9th century hadith.
@@peterhwang352 Paul met Jesus the same way Joseph Smith did. There are no complete first century gospels. They were tampered with by later writers. The earliest surviving manuscript of the New Testament is a few words in Greek on a piece of Papyrus from the second century which doesn't quite match the current wording, several words are missing based on the position of the surviving letters, although its close enough that it is definitely part of the gospel of John.
I believe that God gave Muhammed authority to legislate beyond the revelation because he was the best of men and knew what God revealed to him to be true. His law is superior to that of any other law, So, as an example, when Muhammed and the Muslims in Mecca prayed Northwest to the alignment of the Kaaba and Aqsa that was not explicitly revealed by God, but it was a good practice. In Medina God commanded them to pray South towards Mecca, this changed the practice from that which was good to that which is better. This is how I understand abrogation.
I'm something of a Quranist, or at least Quran first in my thinking. If I knew everything that the prophet said and everything that he didn't say I would obey him. I do not know. I can only use reason.
@@evanfreshman2450 Lack of 1st century manuscripts does not mean the gospels are not complete in the 1st century. So many references to them by the early church fathers, so many historical and archeological references that attest to 1st century composition. And yes, papyrus fragments dating to the 2nd century.
Contrast that to the sirah of ibn Hisham, composed in the 9th century, 2 centuries after supposed Muhammad. And what is the earliest manuscript for that? If you want to be consistent, you know absolutely nothing about the real Muhammad or who actually composed the Quran.
@@peterhwang352 The Sirah is a biography about Muhammed. It may well contain mistakes. The Quran is The Book. It does not (I mean there will obviously be mistakes in individual manuscripts, but they aren't passed on indefinitely and allowed to proliferate, they get caught.)
@@evanfreshman2450 Well, you have no idea who wrote the Quran and under what circumstances. It is so poorly written that it provides zero context. It could very well be written by someone with schizophrenia given its lack of context, flight of ideas, delusions of grandeur...
There is no uncertainty that he died on the cross. All of the accounts are the same that he died on the cross. You’re just making things up. Be very careful of this. Read Galatians 1:8. It says if you teach anything other than what is in the Bible, you will be a cursed. Don’t curse yourself!
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So does Shabbir Ally basically believe in the swoon theory? But then if that's the case then why would Allah allow such a humiliation of one of the greatest prophets?
This is the actual verse from the koran. Reference: 4 : 157 ( "And [for] their saying, "INDEED, WE HAVE KILLED THE MESSIAH, JESUS, THE SON OF MARY. the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.")
Straight away this does not make sense. What Jew in his right mind would say "INDEED, WE HAVE KILLED THE MESSIAH, JESUS, THE SON OF MARY." Not one would say this and claim to be a Jew. The Jewish people were desperately waiting for the Messiah to arrive and rescue them from their enemies. They would have welcomed him with open arms as their Savior if they actually realized who he was.This is where the KORAN gets it BLATANTLY WRONG. To make the Koran read correctly it should say, " Indeed, We have killed the FALSE Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary." The Jews actually thought that Jesus was the false Messiah and that is why they told Pontius Pilate (The Roman ruler at the time) to allow them to put to death Jesus as a FALSE Messiah and they would accept their decision on themselves and the generations of their children after them.
For the Koran to get something wrong and so blatantly wrong proves that it can not be from an all knowing, all wise God. Please do not delete my comment as you have in the past but make an attempt to answer my allegations if you are honest.
Which J-w would say this ...
Mark 15:32 Let this Messiah, this king of Israel, come down now from the cross, that we may see and believe.” Those crucified with him also heaped insults on him.
@@youwhat491 Thank you for strengthening my argument with the verse from the Holy Bible. Reference Mark 15 : 32.
You say " Which Jews would say this.... The answer is, the exact Jews that did not believe Jesus was the real Messiah. The ones that thought the man on the cross was a false Messiah. These are the Jews that prove the Koran is false. The Koran states the Jews said this and I quote. "INDEED, WE HAVE KILLED THE MESSIAH, JESUS, THE SON OF MARY." Again I say " What Jew in his right mind would want to kill the Messiah that they were waiting for.The one that would save them from their enemies?" The Jews that were calling for Jesus to come down from the cross believed that Jesus was a FALSE MESSIAH.
@@momonotever8847 i dont know what you are, are you a Jew or what, it seems you are unaware in both cases they are mocking, and being sarcastic, a reference to the one claiming to be the Messiah, my point is still valid
@@youwhat491 I tried to reply to your comment but Let the quran speak saw fit to remove it. I hope you got to read it before they did so. Shameful on their part that they can not stand any critique of their faith. Shows a definite weakness on their part.
@@youwhat491obviously the pharasies they ordered his exaction
Speculation. Not scholarship.
Guys, don’t blame Allah-he just course-corrected seven centuries later! 😂 Here’s how it went down:
Allah in the 1st century: ‘Okay, so here’s the plan-I’m gonna make it look like Jesus was crucified. Yep, people will see him on the cross, see him die, and then we’ll spread rumors of him rising again. Oh, and I’ll help his followers share this story far and wide for the next several centuries. Everyone will think Jesus is divine. Perfect!’
Fast forward to the 7th century…
Allah: ‘Oof, okay, awkward! Soooo, I guess now’s the time to reveal that I faked the whole thing. Surprise! That wasn’t Jesus on the cross, I pulled a switcheroo and made it look like it. He’s actually chilling with me. But hey, my bad for letting a whole world religion form around this misunderstanding. Let me send Muhammad to clean this up!’
And that’s the plot twist, folks: 600 years of divine “Gotcha!” followed by a new script. It’s like Allah dropped the biggest prank in history and then tried to tell everyone it was just a social experiment. 😂
No, that was satan, oh wait- yeah the greatest deceivers adds that up nicely.
If you go on to test Allah, Allah (swt) will surely deceive you. Allah (swt) caused the photo-ID of jesus to be dead in the minds of people as mentioned in (Quran Chapter 22 Verses 5, where 'not knowing anything after having known' is equated with death as follows, [.....And among you is he who is taken in [early] death, and among you is he who is returned to the most decrepit [old] age so that he knows, after once having knowledge, nothing. ....]) . Hence Jews and all mankind had no way to find who was jesus and who was not. So no jesus was hanged on the cross to begin with. So there is no deception here.
Shabir "modern commentators are not an authoritative source on John's Gospel"
So no answer whatsoever?
The biggest Cope 😂 and such an insult of the people’s intelligence of the time
muslims should not be embarrased in holding to the belief that jesus was not even put on the cross, let alone be killed.
Allah can keep his plan secret, especially when the enemy had decided to plan against jesus and keep it secret.
Allah fooled everyone, all the disciples, the roman empire, all the people who knew Jesus and who were present during the crucifiction. The actual translation Quran 3:54 is referring to Allah as the "greatest of all deceivers". Hmm sounds familiar
Islam evidences is always from certain and certain scholar..no the quran😂😂😂😂
Notice he doesn’t actually read the verses. He just tells you what they say. Look up the verses he mentions they’re not saying what he says.
Allah never deceive his creation, is rather we the humans who deceive our self's , Allah saved jesus while he was present no there no point in the heaven is mention in that Arya, jesus survived crucifixion and travelled extensively to India
So God made it appear that Jesus died on thd cross in order to make a joke? Or was this a test to see how gullible Jesus's followers were?
You make absolutely no sense at all. At what point was Jesus replaced by someone who looked like him? Why for 600 years no one said or thought like thus? Finally, the koran says Allah deceived people into believing Jesus was crucified. Why? Why would God deceive people about this? You make no sense at all as much if the koran makes no sense.
Dogma won't let an intelligent man think intelligently. Medically speaking resurrection seems more likely than "appearing" to be dead. What's the big hang up? Why can't God resurrect whomever He wants? 😒 🤔
Surah 3 54 states that Allah is the best of deceivers, and so it is necessary for Dr. Ally to explain how Allah deceived everyone. That is why he is forced to do this. But the Christian God is the Way, the Truth, the Life, and the Resurrection!
@@peterhwang352 3:54 "And they planned, but The God planned, and The God is the best planner." According to my own translation of Classical Arabic which I trust is more honest than your source. Proverbs 19:21 espouses much the same concept: “Many are the plans in a person’s heart, but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails.” Not my own translation, we're not discussing the validity of the Tanakh, so I don't feel a need to go in and translate the Hebrew for you. The Quran is very clearly derived from the same source as the Jewish scriptures, either through the will of God or a vast highly implausible Arabian conspiracy.
@@evanfreshman2450 Part of the problem is that many English translations of the Quran whitewash it. The word "plan" does not fully communicate the hostility and deception of the Arabic root "makr". You are sure that if the devil imitates the word of God then they are surely from the same source?
@@peterhwang352 No, most English translations blackwash it. Meem Kaf Reh is to plot or scheme. That is to say to plan in secret. They made plans Jesus did not know about but God knew and God made plans they did not know about and in the end Gods plans succeed and human plans do not succeed unless God allows them to. Muhammed never lied, he only told people truths that they didn't expect. So too God doesn't lie, nor does he reveal himself unless he chooses to.
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Allah is the best deceiver indeed!
If Christian believe in the death of Jesus and created the bigger religion, it is allah fault..
So he didn'T actually answer the question.Why did he do it?And why lie for 600 years?A lying god?Oh right it's the humans who pulled of this scam,god has nothing to do with it,doesn`t Quran say allah made it look like they crucified jesus..?So allah was the author of it.
Every thing about jesus writen about him in the bible was finish when jesus died on the cross😅
The roman soldiers knew he was dead it why they stabed him instead of braking his legs
Sounds legit ...
Ive heard this objection from christians and i dont find it to be a strong one
@@varunsriram286 They were persecuted by the Jewish authorities for questioning the state of the scriptures. John the Baptist was beheaded and his followers the Mandaeans carried on his message as best they could. There was a plot to kill Jesus which the Quran says failed, but what exactly transpired is unclear. His followers continued his mission but James his disciple and brother was reported to have been stoned to death and the Jewish Christians (Muslims) in Jerusalem were persecuted. Peter was martyred by the Romans, Andrew by the Greeks, etc. Not to mention Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE. There's no record of anything from them, they were martyred and driven underground. The only early source which survives is the portion of the Epistles which can actually be attributed to Paul, and we know for a fact he was not an actual Apostle. The entire New Testament is fabricated. What does God have to do with it any more than he has to do with Hesiod's Theogony or any other work? Is it God's fault that L. Ron Hubbard invented scientology?
@@varunsriram286 Facts! Good job brother.
Because allah is shaytan. @wwilson4433
Allah is the best of deceivers. Word of God says Devil is the best of deceivers.
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In Bibel , the Devil is the Deciver.
Jesus controversies are necessary evil to remind us (Muslims) time to time for forthcoming of Dajjal, Qyamah and a Comforter (Jesus).
This is comical, so much ambiguity and hoop jumping. Weak answer
Tape decoders of ghamdi can not explain any thing....tell that to shzad sleem jahil.
These titles are offensive I won't be watching but had to comment, as a Muslim I don't cone this. If its a question asked.... thats a question no need for a video on such a a topic Auzubillah! I have unsurprised.
This isn't the 1st time using titles that are not good there are definitely better ways to title the videos I do not care if its " a question thats asked". If its answered, leave the title as q and a on various topics or whatev3r. There is no need to try "grab people's attention"-which is just click bait even if its the actual title of what the video is. Still not needed and again not the first time .
these are questions asked by people being addressed, calm down take some b1 vitamin
While the phrasing is unfortunate (“they plotted against him, but Allah is the best of plotters”) and it brings Allah down to the level of the plotters, the better understanding of the verse would be as “they plotted against Jesus, but Allah’s Will is mightier than all human plotting”. Again - the writers of the Quran did not think it straight :)
If the Christian readers of the Quran understood that the early Muslims were, in essence - followers of Jesus who did not believe that Jesus is equal to God but that Jesus died and resurrected as the martyr of belief - they would drop their hatred toward Islam. The early Islam is nothing like the Islam of today (just like the early “Christianity” is nothing like Christianity today).
@fidel catsro there is no need to tell me to calm so we when 1. No one was at all talking to you I made a comment to the people who keep titling these ISLAMIC videos in like this when there is *no* need.. I do *not* need your reply or anything of the like. Or others who want to comment same nonsense!
I made my comment unsubsribed- finished. Like I mentioned in my comment this is not the first time . Keep replying to me or others I will just keep blocking. They keep making titles like this, and others might not also be happy or think it's good God only knows.
Its disgusting how some people just try to argue for no reason -I said what said.
@Monika Benay thank you. I understood that it is q and a but my thing is there's no need for that kind of title.
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Translation 1- Allah is best of the Planners
Translation 2- Allah is the Best of the Plotters
Translation 3 Allah is the Best of the Deceivers
Translation 4 - Allah is the Best of the Chefs lol
Which one is it lol?
isnt Allah the great deceiver?
Overwhelming Islamic Evidence that Jesus did not die- “Did they have a breathalyzer…” lol I don’t know about anybody else but Im convinced 😅
What a disingenuous way to explain away the question by Shabir Ali.
My sentiments exactly. I have never heard anyone talk so much absurdity and malarkey to try and circumvent obvious stupidity in his koran.
It is not the commentaries that claim that Allah deceived but the Quran itself in 3:54. "And they deceived (makr), and Allah deceived, and Allah is the best of deceivers."
This is why Dr. Ally is obliged to insert some form of deception into the clear gospel narrative.
naaaah your christian idol deceived you!!
Paul, Ezekiel, and Jeremiah said God deceives people (Ezekiel 14:8-10 ; Jeremiah20:7 ; 2Thessalonians2:11-12).
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The 3:54 means that Allah’s plan is to deprive Jesus of life, have Jesus killed - and then “lift” him or resurrect him. The Quran is simply saying that the Jews planned to killed Jesus, but Allah had better plans in that after Jesus died, Allah resurrected him. This is so clear and plain written in the Quran - it is amazing how the Muslim readers are missing it. It could not be more plain to read that the Quran actually speaks of Jesus’ death and resurrection.
Ironically- the Quran speaks against people who “twist the scripture” either by their tongues or by writing some other accounts. Can you believe how MASSIVE the irony is here? Virtually ALL Muslim scholars are condemned by the Quran - all those who insist that Jesus did not die nor was resurrected, but create “alternate” interpretations of substitute
total BS
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Did they have a breathalyzer? Lol. What a terrible assessment made once again made by Ali. As if 1st century Roman’s who specialized in killings couldn’t tell wether a person was dead or not. Ali again shows the Muslim need to make elaborate stories to scenarios to assume their followers that Jesus did not die. Because if he didn’t die, then they don’t have to explain the resurrection, which historians agree died by crucifixion and buried in a borrowed grave by Joseph of Aramatias. This detail alone reflects that the ppl knew where his body was buried and by whom. But mister Ali fails to critically analyze this because you can’t be a Muslim if you state Jesus died, as they claim to honor him as a prophet but deny his divinity. As if God could not raise him from the dead. Jesus stated he would bodily resurrect as this could be empirically tested. The account show he shows himself to others and they were certain he was raised from the dead, to the point they were willing to die. Please read the New Testament on your own and draw your conclusion on what was written, despite Muslims holding that the Bible was corrupted but are will to use it for their arguments to prove a point. Non sense
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For a common Muslim there is no difference in basic beliefs and practices of Islam; unless someone want to be a research scholar in Islam then he or she go to the proper school or university that teaches and do research in Islam as if someone want to be medical doctor or engineer will go to medical or engineering school to get appropriate knowledge and education But as everyone cannot be a doctor or engineer similarly not every Muslim can be a research scholar or Aalim in Islam
@@attarehman6030 but there are so many sects and all are in hell except one. The common Muslim nowadays doesnt have many reliable scholars to look up to from whom he can directly ask questions. A Muslim has to seek knowledge and when seeking knowledge is where you find this problem. For the most part you are right and I am just troubling myself too much by these questions which keep me anxious and worried
@@Rushour-16 don't worry, just try to do the compulsory actions as a Muslim, like keeping up with the 5 daily prayers, fasting in Ramadan, and continue to ask Allah to guide you and keep you on the straight path.
Perhaps listen to lectures from Nouman Ali Khan and Mufti Menk, they explain things nicely.
May Allah SWT bless you and guide you all the way to His Jannah!✨.. Ameen. 🤲🏼
Don’t follow a sect. Follow the Quran
@@Rushour-16what sects are you on about? And who said they’ll go hell except one
Shabir missed his calling as a used car salesman!
What did they find up your mother's
The careful reading of the Quran indicates that, perhaps, the Quran writers very much believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus (and John the Baptist). When the Quran says “they did not kill nor crucify him”, it does not mean that Jesus did not die on the cross. It means that the JEWS did not kill him. Why? Because the Quran believes that when people kill each other it is through the agency of Allah. In other words -/ it is only Allah who has the power to give life and take life back.
Also - the Quran believes that those who are killed in the cause of Allah, don’t REALLY die, but it SEEMS as if they died. This phrase (“didn’t die, but it SEEMED as if died”) is used at least twice in reference to martyrs before it is applied to Jesus.
As such - Jesus is the most important martyr who died and resurrected for the cause of Allah - and John the Baptist as well (the Quran includes the Sabians and their veneration of John, in its folds).
Shabir Ally - maybe instead of studying the Christian scriptures so carefully - it would be better for you to study the Quran??
So Allah did not do it? It just apeerd so? like a islamc wonder or somthing?