Can ANY Laptop Beat a MacBook Air? [Intel vs AMD vs Snapdragon vs Apple]

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @Thetechchap
    @Thetechchap  2 місяці тому +37

    Chaps! Macbook or Windows Laptop??
    CORRECTION: 9:58 The MacBook/Surface Laptop text is the wrong way round - oops!

    • @seungisanrin
      @seungisanrin 2 місяці тому

      What is a window? 😂😂

    • @kristen-johnshearman2696
      @kristen-johnshearman2696 2 місяці тому

      Macbook all day

    • @kato1557
      @kato1557 2 місяці тому +2

      I was a Windows user ever since getting my first laptop as a teenager. But in February this year I decided to change to a 13-inch M2 MacBook Air and I have not looked back since. Absolutely smooth performance with no overheating nor any technical glitches whatsoever in the 8 months I have had it. The beautiful midnight color is a cherry on top, absolutely gorgeously light and thin. I can see my MacBook lasting for years to come.
      My latest Windows laptop was an ASUS Zenbook which gave me problems as quickly as 3 weeks old. I had to go to the ASUS service centre no less than 6 times in my one year duration with the laptop and the technician would always not be able to explain what hardware is causing the issues I was facing like a randomly unresponsive touchpad, perpetual unadjustable screen dimming etc. They could only tell me to uninstall the latest Windows update every time I faced an issue.

    • @miles_tails0511
      @miles_tails0511 2 місяці тому +4

      Windows because file explorer, multi-instance app tiling, maximize window not opening new desktops, and clipboard history. I had a MacBook for coding in internship, it’s decent for Unix & coding stuff, but once I do multitasking, files management & adobe, I simply can’t bring myself to relearn the whole Ctrl-Opt-Cmd scheme vs Ctrl-Win-Alt scheme.
      Also, windows always sports wackier hardware. I can live with the bugs, which are very few and far between since I switched to surface, no bloatware too :)
      Before 2016: whatever my fam had in the trash
      2016-2023: Dell XPS
      2024: Surface Laptop Studio 2

    • @tonexbot
      @tonexbot 2 місяці тому

      I like what macOS offers but Windows is the only OS for me.

  • @aras_aras_aras_aras
    @aras_aras_aras_aras 2 місяці тому +254

    One might find the Macbook Air the best option, but it is not convincing if its drawbacks are not mentioned:
    - It has only a 60 Hz IPS screen (this is written in the video, though) with a slow response time so scrolling causes blurry images and text,
    - it doesn't support more than two monitors including the internal screen,
    - it has a more limited port selection,
    - it is not reported how much the performance drops in a sustained load (like when the benchmarks are run multiple times successively), and
    - it is not possible to upgrade the storage and Apple charges you a lot for this.

    • @frozencold199
      @frozencold199 2 місяці тому +14

      Just goes to show how much of a advantage apple has on the market, they are still about a year ahead in terms of performance and batterylife and this is ONLY the macbook air... m4 chips drop soon too

    • @aras_aras_aras_aras
      @aras_aras_aras_aras 2 місяці тому +48

      @@frozencold199 I agree on the efficiency, but it shouldn't be a reason to ignore its drawbacks

    • @ThomasAndy-qu8dp
      @ThomasAndy-qu8dp 2 місяці тому +28

      Apple use their "brand recognition" to charge people with ridiculous prices.
      Seriously, they might make great hardware but the price is just a ripoff the moment you want to upgrade the ram and storage.

    • @levskilevov4888
      @levskilevov4888 2 місяці тому +5

      And remember... you can find a good deal for Intel/AMD laptops with a way bigger screen 16" vs 13.3" Air ( with limited port selection, performance drops). Also there is still laptops with upgradable storage(like Asus with new AMD 370 chip)

    • @shaun1900
      @shaun1900 2 місяці тому +17

      People complaining about 60HZ on a macbook, generally need to get out more and get a life. Always shouting my windows laptop screen is 120hz - BUT its slower, has a wind turbine fan, its battery life is crap, its build quality is crap, its resale is terrible, its keyboard is mushy, terrible track pad - BUT yeah 120hz.

  • @Shag1077
    @Shag1077 2 місяці тому +82

    To be fair, the Asus Zenbook S16 is pushing a 16" 3K 120Hz OLED

    • @Luke-qs2cg
      @Luke-qs2cg Місяць тому +2

      So is this 14" lol

    • @GojoBoiAlt1
      @GojoBoiAlt1 Місяць тому +4

      @@Luke-qs2cg 14 inch is also 120 hz oled...

    • @zakishere.
      @zakishere. 14 днів тому

      @@GojoBoiAlt1 Credit to the S16; the S14 is less bright ( But I guess he change them to similar britness)

  • @sameerghayya3203
    @sameerghayya3203 2 місяці тому +112

    New Ryzen Chips really underrated. they hit the middle ground between performance and having a cutting edge TSMC node for better battery life. sad that you wouldn't see them in many good laptops with some sacrifices as companies still prefer Intel

    • @techsamurai11
      @techsamurai11 2 місяці тому +4

      I bought an Asus Zenbook for $800 with the AMD 8840 for my daughter. It’s 25% faster than my 2 year old Lenovo AIO Yoga 7 with the 5800H. Twice as fast in Octane as my 4-5 year old Dell XPS 15 inch which cost 2.5 times more. If only the chassis was the new ceraluminum, it’d beat all of them.

    • @kaczan3
      @kaczan3 2 місяці тому

      I love the new AMD chips, but I don't love it that they are paired with OLED :(

    • @techsamurai11
      @techsamurai11 2 місяці тому +4

      @@kaczan3 what's wrong with OLED?

    • @Vision33r
      @Vision33r 2 місяці тому +1

      @@techsamurai11 No good for gaming, slow refresh.

    • @techsamurai11
      @techsamurai11 2 місяці тому +5

      @@Vision33r realistically, how many of these laptops can handle graphics over 60 fps? An oled with 900 brightness would be something special. Granted, the current panels are a bit dim compared to my old xps but once they have tandem, they'll be amazing like my xps.

  • @Burbanana
    @Burbanana 2 місяці тому +99

    Macbook uses 60hz and not an OLED screen so they use much less battery. Most Windows laptops on here use OLED, except for the Surface Laptop.

    • @Thetechchap
      @Thetechchap  2 місяці тому +19

      that's a good point

    • @theothernodude3139
      @theothernodude3139 2 місяці тому +25

      OLED consumes less battery compared to LCD, due to the individual pixels that light up vs the entire screen.
      For the refresh rate, some windows computers (such as the Surface 7) uses a variable refresh rate, which means lower refresh for less demanding tasks and higher refresh for more demanding tasks. Although not a consistent 60hz, you shouldn’t see a significant difference in battery drain when compared to 60hz on lighter to medium based tasks.
      Lastly, the MacBook air’s battery is generally smaller than Window PCs. Even a MacBook Pro which has MicroLED, variable refresh rate (1-120hz), and bigger battery should and will outperform the Air.

    • @sandorbence2067
      @sandorbence2067 2 місяці тому +28

      @@theothernodude3139 OLED only consumes less if you watch dark content, on brighter content in needs significantly more power. Plus there's a big efficiency loss if start scaling up the screen size, that always has been a weak point of OLED (and that's why it was mainly used in phone screens just as recently). That said, panel technology has improved a lot and new innovation like dual layer OLED look promising so maybe in the next 2-3 gen you won't have the power penalty. For now you can still count with 2-3 hours less screen time for this laptop class.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 місяці тому +6

      Most of the OLED laptops have a much larger battery to compensate for the OLED. Also, if they have dynamic refresh then 120Hz may even have better battery consumption. For example if you are reading or typing then they should reduce to 24hz or less. The general take for dynamic 120hz is that it does not benefit unless you are playing games all the time, and even then they may run at 60FPS on these iGPUs. I have tested this theory on my MB Pro using dynamic and 60hz doing the same stuff and they are pretty much the same though I do not play games.

    • @Burbanana
      @Burbanana 2 місяці тому +5

      @@andyH_England Actually most of them dont have a bigger battery to compensate, no idea where you got that from. Plus OLED just draws way more all the time. MB Air 15 uses about 67Wh battery whilst most of these OLED laptops have around 70wh. That far from compensates the power draw. Dynamic refresh isn't a standard and depends on how it is implemented on driver level and manufacturer. Moot point basically.

  • @tbogdane
    @tbogdane 2 місяці тому +225

    If SD is this good now, I can't imagine what the next versions will be like.

    • @MangoPickleGaming
      @MangoPickleGaming 2 місяці тому +31

      exactly, snapdragon is not on 3nm yet! it is going to be another nice jump next year.

    • @BhargavGadekar69
      @BhargavGadekar69 2 місяці тому +45

      They just lack GPU that's it, if they fixed it in 2nd gen then it'll be dead end for apple

    • @kubotite9168
      @kubotite9168 2 місяці тому +24

      did you see the 8 gen 4 bench mark..its insane..if that chip using the next gen Oryon than the X Elite one..they seem have the performance to go head to head with M4..it just that windows on ARM holding the chip back

    • @christianr.5868
      @christianr.5868 2 місяці тому +6

      Hoping for a better gpu and better emulation. And especially better software support

    • @MangoPickleGaming
      @MangoPickleGaming 2 місяці тому +6

      @@BhargavGadekar69 their phone chips are going to come with a much better GPU this year and I think same will be true for next gen of laptop chips.

  • @myyoutubehandle-rr
    @myyoutubehandle-rr 2 місяці тому +19

    The very first factor in most people’s decision making should be the operating system. I’m a windows guy - tried Mac OS for 6 months but didn’t like it, which is disappointing because the Hardware is great.
    For the Windows laptops, I think the Intel Core Series 2 is the standout. No compatibility issues, great battery life and outstanding single core performance, which I would argue, is more important than multi core for most people purchasing these types of laptops.
    Great video.

    • @antonioaxn
      @antonioaxn 2 місяці тому

      How about the new intel corr series in terms of heat and fan noise?

    • @basicelement
      @basicelement Місяць тому

      Windows offers freedom

    • @roronoazero814
      @roronoazero814 Місяць тому

      @@antonioaxn THEY ARE VERY GOOD , 40DB OR 30DB at max

  • @russelloutthere
    @russelloutthere 2 місяці тому +55

    Two comments that I don't remember being discussed:
    1. Storage speed/performance
    2. The fact that the windows devices have touch screens

    • @kennyP105
      @kennyP105 2 місяці тому +6

      Niether have anything to do with the processor

    • @russelloutthere
      @russelloutthere 2 місяці тому +3

      Understood. However given the multiple facets/criteria that Tom used to give different recommendations (including Price and Battery life). Storage speed (eg. Bandwidth through integrated CPU) and Windows devices having touch screens are factors for consideration. Especially as the 60hz screen on the Macbook Air were highlighted.

    • @EggheadAssasin
      @EggheadAssasin 2 місяці тому

      Touchscreens are overrated in laptops. I had one and only time I used it was accidental touches when trying to point out stuff on my screen to people

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 2 місяці тому +9

      @russelloutthere I love that I can add a new SSD within the same gen on a Windows laptop. Usually, with far better read & write speeds than the ones laptop manufacturers provide at a reasonable cost. Up to 7k read speeds with gen 4 SSDs and up to 6,700 write speeds.
      The M3 Macbook Air with 512GB of storage still gets mid 3k read & write speeds. Far worse for pulling saved files/games or uploading documents/videos/code.

    • @hajjdawood
      @hajjdawood 2 місяці тому

      @@akin242002 Who is playing games / encoding videos / compiling code on a macbook air, a fanless ultrabook?

  • @nikhilagarwal5295
    @nikhilagarwal5295 2 місяці тому +35

    @11:30 tbf the surface and macbook roughly weigh the same. So I don't think the the size of battery should be given kudos. Same with iPhones, they come with smaller batteries but weigh significantly higher than other phones. It should ideally be weight/minutes rather than mAH/minute.

  • @TroubleMakerLT
    @TroubleMakerLT 2 місяці тому +59

    ordered the Asus Zenbook S14 with new Intel chip, cant wait to use it, changing my old 2020 Lenovo Legion 5 laptop which cant hold more then 1.5hours on baterry.

    • @Thetechchap
      @Thetechchap  2 місяці тому +13

      Good choice!

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium 2 місяці тому

      Good on you! I'm running drone footage frame extraction (FFMPEG) and photogrammetry (Metashape/RealityCapture) workloads on my laptop so Strix Halo in 6 months with RX 7600-class integrated graphics is what I'm going for.

    • @mihaelk1938
      @mihaelk1938 2 місяці тому

      Why not swap the battery only 🤣

    • @TroubleMakerLT
      @TroubleMakerLT 2 місяці тому +7

      @@mihaelk1938 im still gonna use it as my main work pc/laptop it will just stay indors and will be connected to the monitor /keyboard. Dont worry im not throwing it away.

    • @eshendias6833
      @eshendias6833 2 місяці тому

      My Dell G3 from 2021 needs to be plugged in all time. Battery capacity is 0%. And I carry this to college everyday.

  • @jia7833
    @jia7833 2 місяці тому +115

    intel ultra 2 with 32gb memory. good luck with whatever you do on a macbook with 8gb memory.

    • @TamasKiss-yk4st
      @TamasKiss-yk4st 2 місяці тому +14

      Well, it's still able to finish the most demanding benchmarks with judt 8GB RAM, where Windows just simply throw an error and tell you it's need 16GB RAM to do that.. 😂 and guess what, in average usage the other tasks are lighter, and not demanding that much from the laptop.. (sure it's not healthy for the SSD on long term, but still keeping the price better like any competitor.. the 2020 M1 laptops was still $700 in 2024, alias you was able to sell your $999 laptop for about $600 after 4 years of usage, Snapdragon had models what already dropped $400 price in just 3 weeks because of bad sales, they already discounted it when it wasn't even 1 month old.. and if the brand new is $400 cheaper you will never sell your 1 months old laptop on close to the original price, you must undercut it with at least $500 to sell that 1 months old laptop..)

    • @ezrareimer
      @ezrareimer 2 місяці тому +13

      My 8gb Macbook has never been a problem, when editing video it plays back heavy 4k timelines perfectly every time

    • @kevingut5354
      @kevingut5354 2 місяці тому +25

      @@TamasKiss-yk4st The thing people forget: "mac os" is more like "linux" generally "Unix" and windows is just some company that is shit. So installl linux on a pc with low ram will also do the trick.

    • @kevingut5354
      @kevingut5354 2 місяці тому +8

      @@ezrareimer You have to look at the swap. a mac can use the sdd as ram if there is ram need.

    • @YasinHasan
      @YasinHasan 2 місяці тому +8

      @@TamasKiss-yk4st nice story bro, that never happened 😂😂

  • @CF542
    @CF542 2 місяці тому +10

    I bought my daughter the Surface Laptop 7 for school to replace her MacBook Air and she's in love with. It's probably the closest for a direct replacement on design and battery life

    • @Thatbeardedguy86
      @Thatbeardedguy86 10 годин тому

      Still working for her? Just worried that my kid will run into program compatibility issues in school.

  • @FierroSev
    @FierroSev 2 місяці тому +4

    Picked up the S16 with the 370 and the thing is a beauty. X86 with all day battery and good enough iGPU for some light gaming. Now a days it feels less about the CPU and more about other things like screen size and ram. I had to go for a 16 inch laptop and could not be any more happier with it. Linux support is finally to the point where 6.12 rc2 supports all hardware. Running Endevour on it. Plus it is great to know if I ever need the power, it is there. It would bother me if I went with the lunar lake varient.
    Finally a quiet x86 laptop, it is amazing.

  • @wisdomyaw03
    @wisdomyaw03 2 місяці тому +2

    13:00 How did you get a lower score for the MacBook Air on battery? It's supposed to be the same both on battery and plugged in.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 місяці тому +2

      It is; something went wrong there unless he did back to back tests and ran the battery test after he had not let it cool down. With no fan, scientific tests need to be regulated otherwise you get anomalies like that.

    • @MLWJ1993
      @MLWJ1993 2 місяці тому

      It probably thermal throttled because the Air model is passively cooled.

  • @AkashSharma-ef5mq
    @AkashSharma-ef5mq 2 місяці тому +21

    "It's exciting stuff, if you are a nerd", caught me off guard.

  • @MShahzaibAli4076
    @MShahzaibAli4076 2 місяці тому +2

    There's a mistake at 10:03 in labeling the laptops. Specs of Surface Laptop and MacBook are labeled in the opposite way 😅

  • @sanchigordon6282
    @sanchigordon6282 2 місяці тому +3

    The real asnwer is to use the laptop/computer and OS that you're most productive with - most people are more productive with either macOS or Windows as standard.
    The actual choice is then within the machines that can run the OS you're most productive with, which model is best suited to what you intend to use it for?

    • @SocratesWasRight
      @SocratesWasRight 2 місяці тому

      Imdeed. I often use Power BI Desktop and advanced Excel features, which do not run on Macs. Some Mac users probably have similar requirements on their side. Software is the key deciding factor, after that come the other considerations.

  • @GustavoHenriqueCunhaCalanzani
    @GustavoHenriqueCunhaCalanzani 2 місяці тому +2

    Just a notice: XeSS and FSR don't use the same scale factor. Since version 1.3, you should use balanced profile to match FSR and DLSS (2.0x factor)

  • @Chemzborgor
    @Chemzborgor 2 місяці тому +2

    For me whats surprising is that apple has complete control over their hardware and software, and windows devices are scattered between different choices of componentsand brand but are actually becoming competitive with apples unified system, thats pretty darn good

  • @bruceparker3139
    @bruceparker3139 2 місяці тому +5

    Finally we are at the place where we can choose any laptop as per pur liking without worrying about battery or performance.
    I guess now laptop story is same as mobile phones

  • @RidwanGosal
    @RidwanGosal 2 місяці тому +16

    I think few macbook users had realized that Intel and SD had caught up, heck, Intel had caught up one year after M1 but it was on HP business notebook line.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 місяці тому +2

      You are comparing recently released 2024 laptops with 2023 M3 chip, so wait for the M4 which according to leaked benchmarks will be miles clear again, maybe as much as two generations. And of course, what Intel fans forget is that there are the MB Pro 14 (M3 Pro) that destroy these Intels and because they are being discontinued are as cheap or cheaper than many Intel Gen 2 Core Ultras.

    • @RidwanGosal
      @RidwanGosal 2 місяці тому +1

      No, I was talking about battery life. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

    • @housepianist
      @housepianist 2 місяці тому +5

      ⁠@@andyH_EnglandI have an M2 MacBook Air and it’s probably more powerful and efficient than these Windows laptops. But admittedly, it’s good to see Intel, Snapdragon, etc, improving the hardware to run Windows more effectively.

    • @Skaratak
      @Skaratak 2 місяці тому

      There are still M4 Pro and Max. But even M4 is better.

    • @-Blue-_
      @-Blue-_ 2 місяці тому

      @@andyH_England miles clear again lol

  • @BigPaco213
    @BigPaco213 2 місяці тому +20

    Sold my macbook pro M1 and got the Macbook Air M3 and im super happy with the speed boost. i use lightroom to edit photos

    • @fasn279
      @fasn279 2 місяці тому +1

      what ram?

  • @BigBoss7777777
    @BigBoss7777777 Місяць тому +6

    The Tech Chap is actually such an Apple fanboy. How are you still recommending the Macbook Air over the Asus Zenbook S14? The S14 has a significantly better screen, 30% better battery life, significantly better for gaming, faster charging, double the ram for the same price, bigger screen and it’s lighter. In what world is the Macbook a better buy? Apple fanboy alert.

    • @QuantumCanvas07
      @QuantumCanvas07 День тому +1

      It's all about the software kid. I was a Windows user for a decade. I won't go back there even for free

    • @BigBoss7777777
      @BigBoss7777777 День тому +1

      @ Apple software is extremely limited and closed off, so yeah it is about the software too ‘kid’. All that power on the Macs are wasted unless you’re a content creator which most people aren’t.

    • @QuantumCanvas07
      @QuantumCanvas07 День тому

      @@BigBoss7777777 I'm a developer and usually only reply to comments on weekends. Macs have a solid place in the development ecosystem for good reason. Not everyone is a high-school gamer or modder, there's a world beyond that. We prefer staying as close to a linux like environment as possible. Setting up Docker on Windows is a huge pain. Honestly, I like the closed ecosystem as long as my work runs smoothly and integrates seamlessly with my other Apple devices. I’m not here to troubleshoot errors and driver issues every week lol. Windows for ARM is poorly optimized right now but I do hope Windows laptops catch up to macbook someday.

    • @BigBoss7777777
      @BigBoss7777777 День тому +1

      @@QuantumCanvas07 Well then you’re an incredibly small minority aren’t you. For general population the best equivalent priced Windows laptops are superior to Macs. Better screens, better battery life, more ram, more SSD space, better GPU, the option to game. The snobbery around Mac users is embarrassing these days, you’re paying more money for subpar specs. Great CPU but they gimp you on everything else.

    • @Thatbeardedguy86
      @Thatbeardedguy86 10 годин тому

      ​@@BigBoss7777777 I run Windows and Linux but I've used Mac before. One thing you can't deny Macs have is the build quality. Trackpads are hands down the best. The new Surface Laptop is the first laptop to match it. Speakers are top notch too. And no fans is nice when it's on your lap. Spec for spec per dollar Windows generally wins out.

  • @whiskeyshots
    @whiskeyshots Місяць тому +1

    I bought a Surface Laptop with the X-Elite chip, and I am super happy with it. The build quality is top notch, the performance is excellent, and the battery life is mind blowing. I am able to go two full days without touching the charger. If you only do casual gaming, MS Office, and web browsing, you will have no problems with it. The only thing I have not been able to overcome is being able to install the VPN client for my company on the laptop. VPN clients are basically drivers and can't run under emulation, so if you need a VPN client installed, you need to check that before buying for sure.

  • @PerezChilli
    @PerezChilli Місяць тому

    10:00 you've placed wrong specs on laptop screens, SD X Elite and M3 messed up

  • @TrainMePlease
    @TrainMePlease 7 днів тому

    So, which of those windows machines is the best for DaVinci Resolve video editing?

  • @akin242002
    @akin242002 2 місяці тому +6

    Picking between the MacBook Air and the Intel Lunar Lake, I would pick the Intel one. Full X86 software compatibility, good iGPU light 1080p gaming, better port selection, good single core performance, adjustable SSD, and excellent battery life. The only thing I would lose out on would be the stability of MacOs and class leading single core CPU performance.

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 2 місяці тому

      @zeuronplana8541 Funny because I personally use Windows 11 Pro for my setup.

    • @zeuronplana8541
      @zeuronplana8541 2 місяці тому

      @@akin242002 me too,if u get the original windows 11/11 pro it's stable.

    • @hajjdawood
      @hajjdawood 2 місяці тому

      macOS has essentially full software compatibility. The fact that the core OS was built to run on any processor and Apple's tight software controls made the transition a breeze. Now I only see 1-2 apps on my mac that are still running in Intel mode without any issues. I only know if its an intel app if I manually check in Activity Monitor. Apples's built in GPU is great for gaming, I have an M1 Max that can play most games on Ultra

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 2 місяці тому

      @hajjdawood MacOS does not have full software compatibility. Engineers can not use Solidworks software, and analysts can not use Power BI. Whoever told you that flat out lied.

    • @zeuronplana8541
      @zeuronplana8541 2 місяці тому

      @@akin242002 there r some programs that dont run on mac os for med schools that ive visited

  • @elshanmovsumov5806
    @elshanmovsumov5806 2 місяці тому +1

    Is the laptop with lunar lake processor as snappy as a macbook or the surface laptop 7 X elite?

    • @stevin2204
      @stevin2204 2 місяці тому

      Definitely, since it is now come with SOC design.

  • @lowkeygaming4716
    @lowkeygaming4716 2 місяці тому +8

    I really like your humour in this vid. I didn't expect it since most of your vids are serious. 😂

    • @Thetechchap
      @Thetechchap  2 місяці тому +6

      No fun was had making this video

  • @andrewchang4915
    @andrewchang4915 2 місяці тому

    9:57 the descriptions don't seem to match the laptops?

  • @10hitscombo
    @10hitscombo 2 місяці тому +1

    I didn't expect Intel manage to catch up that fast and get a very close result compare to others processor. With very good battery life and graphic performance of intel Core Ultra series 2, is there still reasons to go for arms snapdragon x elite chip? The snapdragon x elite may have compatibility issue with old x86 software and games. But with current state of all of those processor chips, is there still any reason for software developers to rewrite their software in arm architecture or end user to choose snapdragon x elite with arm architecture? Or we all could probably just back to intel x86 chip?

    • @10hitscombo
      @10hitscombo 2 місяці тому

      As I look more into it. The intel Ram is 4x the M3. But the result is still below M3 in most catagory not to mention the upcoming M4 for mac. I wonder about the battery size comparison.

  • @TalonsTech
    @TalonsTech 2 місяці тому +1

    Picked up the S14 with 258v and it's an absolutely banger ultrabook with an useful iGPU.

  • @andelson
    @andelson 2 місяці тому

    On 9:57 min, are you sure about which device is each one?

  • @sachafievet3131
    @sachafievet3131 2 місяці тому +1

    I think you have achieved for you the perfect style and balance of technicality and entertainment for a large audience, good job! I really liked the clear graphs/bars

  • @Horrrrrrrrst
    @Horrrrrrrrst 2 місяці тому

    Hey, you may want to look at the sound quality. Every "s" sound in this video is extremely painful. Don't know if that's a microphone problem or a editing problem.

  • @firststep490
    @firststep490 2 місяці тому

    I'm planning to build a setup for my color grading work, do you think AMD will be useful?

  • @ohwhatworld5851
    @ohwhatworld5851 2 місяці тому +2

    It would be good if Intal gave us an option to adjust the wattage ourselves. So we could enable a low wattage when on battery, and higher wattage when plugged in and need more performance. I don't know why manufacturers don't allow this.

    • @infochannel8705
      @infochannel8705 2 місяці тому

      @@ohwhatworld5851Manufacturer is the one who control wattage when on battery or plugged in but it's either too conservative or too aggressive.
      I recommend throttle stop (idk it works with lunar lake yet) but I am using tiger lake (11th gen) and it's a live safer

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 2 місяці тому +2

      Crikey its 2024 and this should just happen. You do not need to play around with multiple settings on a Mac to get it to be efficient when needed. Ridiculous and I have no idea why this is still acceptable in Windows land.

  • @zikrikamarulzaman3435
    @zikrikamarulzaman3435 2 місяці тому

    Wait how was the battery life on the ultra 7 258v?

  • @pneuma23093
    @pneuma23093 2 місяці тому +2

    I’m so happy that the Intel design team has really stepped up their game and proved that x86 isn’t that inefficient compared to arm. Would’ve been exciting to see how Jim Keller’s Royal Core designs would’ve impacted the CPU design landscape. Too bad Pat canned the project.
    Aren’t the video loop tests mostly dependent on the media engine and display engine rather than on the CPU?
    I hope their foundry division can get back on par with the market leader in TSMC with the looming geopolitical implications.
    I’m getting a lunar lake laptop soon. Availability sucks here in India so I don’t know when I can get one.

    • @madjoubah6549
      @madjoubah6549 2 місяці тому

      Intel was lazy as they had zero competition for laptops , now they steped UP a bit late. This lunar lake had to be released in 2021 at least .

    • @pneuma23093
      @pneuma23093 2 місяці тому

      @@madjoubah6549 yeah. But I’m happy with this. The video playback performance and efficiency is everything for me. I can finally ditch the tablet.

    • @auritro3903
      @auritro3903 2 місяці тому

      @@madjoubah6549 True. But hey, better late than never, I guess.

  • @amalchandran5112
    @amalchandran5112 2 місяці тому

    For an embedded software developer, is MacBook Air 16 512 a good choice?

  • @mikasaackerman1290
    @mikasaackerman1290 2 місяці тому

    I’m doing ICT for my higher education and I need a laptop which one do you recommend ?I have never used a Mac book before

    • @infochannel8705
      @infochannel8705 2 місяці тому +1

      If you need specialized engineering software then MacBook and Snapdragon is NOT an option. I use MPLAB IDE and ARM is not compatible. Go with x86, Intel or AMD both are great

  • @drfyzziks1
    @drfyzziks1 2 місяці тому +8

    It has been 0 days since @Thetechchap posted a video with "Macbook KILLER" in the title 😆

    • @Thetechchap
      @Thetechchap  2 місяці тому +1

      I know but this one is ironic 😅

  • @billymania11
    @billymania11 2 місяці тому +9

    For me the Intel chip is the right choice as I work in the enterprise space where X86 compatibility is key. The other chips are very nice and for the right use-case, will do the job. As I predicted a couple of year back, it was going to be easy for Intel to catch up. Going forward, things become more difficult for all the chip vendors. Architectural breakthroughs will have to be implemented to keep advancing. We'll see whose labs have their ducks in a row.

  • @duffyrides
    @duffyrides 2 місяці тому

    Hey Tech chap. Which windows laptop did you prefer in Davinci resolve ? Intel or AMD ? I’m running the MSI 16 AI Evo released in the beginning of this year and it’s great value but not quite as polished /fast in Davinci as my 2021 MacBook Pro 14 (M1 Pro). Curious on the windows performance on your side in Davinci. Thanks !

  • @ericx2764
    @ericx2764 Місяць тому

    Should i buy Air M3 or wait for air m4 next year? Just wanna switch from window to macos.

    • @modaecriacao
      @modaecriacao Місяць тому

      depends on what you need, I got an Imac with m4 and one 13 inches m3 they are absolutely amazing and intuitive to use, I too was switching over from windows... if you are a heavy user and run blender etc just wait up for the m4

    • @ericx2764
      @ericx2764 Місяць тому

      @ thank you. Actually, I have ROG strix g18 for heavy load purposes but it is too big and battery suck. And I wanna get a macbook as for secondary device but not sure what spec to get. I’m considering 1. Mac Air M3 with 8gb ram 512 Rom, 2. Mac Air M3 with 16gb ram 512 rom & 3. Macbook pro M3 16gb ram 512 rom. My budget is slim but afraid to make wrong decision xD.

  • @zsombi2
    @zsombi2 2 місяці тому

    Great video! I’ve never had a Mac before, but now I have a big decision to make. I’m a basic user with no demanding tasks. I currently have a Lenovo Legion Y520, which is 8 years old, and now I’m considering either the Apple MacBook Air M3 base model or the Asus ZenBook 14 OLED with a 1st gen Intel Core Ultra 7-155H, 16GB RAM, and 1TB storage. Which would you recommend between these two?

    • @Bhanucirium
      @Bhanucirium 2 місяці тому

      Macbook Air M3 base model is better .

  • @UnKnown-wc6fr
    @UnKnown-wc6fr Місяць тому

    I've just recently purchased the MacBook Air 15.3 - Midnight with M3 chip, 8-core CPU, 10-Core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine. It was 24 GB unified memory and also 1TB SSD storage. Looking forward to using it. It's my first time using a apple product

  • @BirkAnders
    @BirkAnders 2 місяці тому

    @Thetechchap thanks for this awesome comparison! How is the battery life when using teams? I currently have an M1 Pro Macbook Pro 14" that is due for an upgrade. Since I spend most of my workday in MS Teams which drains my battery in 4-5 hours, I was wondering which chip would handle that task the best. Apple M3, SD XE or Intel Core Ultra 2? Thanks

  • @bhoibrothers1
    @bhoibrothers1 2 місяці тому

    Can you please suggest best 2in1 laptop with OLED within 1100usd

  • @gunnersph
    @gunnersph 2 місяці тому

    Planning to buy the Series 1 Zenbook 14 or MSI Prestige 13 AI Evo...... the Series 2 will likely come next year here in the Philippines....
    is it worth the wait?

    • @infochannel8705
      @infochannel8705 2 місяці тому +1

      Depends on your use cases, series 1 is better for multi-threaded performance because it's high TDP and cores (that can change with Arrow lake), series 2 is very optimized for ultrabook that demands good single thread performance. If battery life and iGPU performance are important, go with series 2, but if you want high performance multihreaded either go with AMD 370 or series 1

  • @adeelabbasi7375
    @adeelabbasi7375 2 місяці тому +6

    10:50 laptops touching eachother is not fair. some may have side ways exhaust and middle onces done even get relative fresh air as sides ones, so more heat less efficiency

    • @infochannel8705
      @infochannel8705 2 місяці тому

      What the heck are you talking about, none of them have side exhaust AMD, Intel, SD, Mac doesn't have a fan). You can clearly see all angles in the first 5 minutes of the video. Maybe see first before commenting

    • @adeelabbasi7375
      @adeelabbasi7375 2 місяці тому

      @@infochannel8705 😁😁 okay good then. but any if the middle notebook sucks air from down side. i might suck heated air of left right notebooks? nah? 😁

    • @infochannel8705
      @infochannel8705 2 місяці тому

      @@adeelabbasi7375 ​Yes, it is a real issue FOR A REAL INTENSIVE APPLICATION. So you are missing A BIG point, the battery test is just a youtube playback, if doing that the laptop already overheating then it fails as a laptop, even my phone can stay cool when playing youtube videos, I can 100% say that doing that does nothing to the result.

  • @VicharB
    @VicharB 2 місяці тому +1

    If I were to go for a new laptop my choice definitely will be AMD 370/375, hopefully able to run ~55W at max when needed. Currently my EliteBook 7840U/32GB is sufficient for me. Looking forward to ThinkPads and Elitebooks 13"/14" options to come in order to consider upgrade, or maybe wait for Zen 6 later.

  • @mahir786able
    @mahir786able 19 днів тому

    just got an Macbook M4 pro and thinking to change to the asus Zenbook S14

  • @rep10101
    @rep10101 Місяць тому +2

    The Macbook Air 13” M4 will be out soon with 16G RAM

    • @celestiallynne690
      @celestiallynne690 Місяць тому

      When do you think it will be out? I was considering getting the M3 but know thinking of waiting, hoping also the m4 is not 60 hrz

  • @Yakuzichacha
    @Yakuzichacha 2 місяці тому

    hey man, great review as always! I have a question, would really appreciate if you could answer that. How bad is the heating issue on the S16 Ryzen AI HX 370? I have heard and read reviews that quite a lot of people have returned their laptops due to overheating. I would be using it only for basic tasks like some Excel modelling, basic chrome stuff, youtube videos and occasionally watch a movie or two. Would that push it so much that it overheats?
    Thanks in advance :)

    • @infochannel8705
      @infochannel8705 2 місяці тому +2

      everyday use should be fine, although lots of review says that S16 can only sustain 22-23W when under constant load, that is quite low for AI HX 370, the processor can only sustain 1.8GHz. If i were you I would look for other chassis that can sustain at least 28W during prolonged load. So yes, others returned this laptop because it is unable to handle long multicore task which contradicts this processor purpose.

    • @Yakuzichacha
      @Yakuzichacha 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the info, ​@@infochannel8705 😄 only asus is offering this processor in my country right now and that too only in the 16 inch form factor, so I'll maybe wait for others to come out with their laptops too and see how's the heating issue been tackled.

  • @Nikick83
    @Nikick83 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video. I agree since I want Windows laptop, I'm probably going to the lunar lake ones. Now the question is, which one? I haven't seen too many comparisons of the different brands. Right now I hear a lot about either the zenbook s14, which you have shown or the Lenovo aura. Thoughts?

  • @AssassinsFear
    @AssassinsFear 2 місяці тому

    I wonder how long it'll take to get to picometer processor transistors

  • @amirparsanoori77
    @amirparsanoori77 2 місяці тому +9

    I think a balance between battery life and multi-core performance is the best choice so i will go on AMD side👌
    But I am truely impressed with the intel performance ❤ i had never expected that !
    This shows that we are going to see more neck a neck compatition soon

    • @auritro3903
      @auritro3903 2 місяці тому +1

      Exactly my point. I'm considering getting either a new Lunar Lake laptop or a Strix Point laptop as someone who does both productivity and gaming applications, but also wants the long battery life.

  • @PureshowGaming
    @PureshowGaming 2 місяці тому

    Hey here !
    I'm looking for a 16" laptop for photo editing (Raw 33 Mpx, ~ 50 Mo each) with a good battery life so I can edit on the go.
    I've 2000€ budget, do you have any recommandations ?
    So far, my favorite is the Asus Zenbook S16 (UM5606)

  • @samareshdas767
    @samareshdas767 Місяць тому

    11:36 we got tom saying that before GTA 6😂😂😂

  • @Gentleinvestor001
    @Gentleinvestor001 2 місяці тому

    What games were those?

  • @BobJCYR
    @BobJCYR 2 місяці тому

    I would agree that Intel is my best bet.
    But if, here in Canada I look to Asus, they have 2 variants prices at 1300$ and 1800$.
    It would be helpful to have your guidance. Do I have to spend 40% more for a top version ?

  • @RailgunNZ
    @RailgunNZ Місяць тому

    Great video. Nice to have competition in the thin and light category. Would have been great if these come out before I got my MacBook Air M2. For a laptop I want great battery life, compact and light, reasonable performance, and reasonable price.

  • @techsimplified24
    @techsimplified24 2 місяці тому

    choosing a Laptop for my needs has been quite a whirlwind for me since the debut of the Snapdragon chip Laptops. But as I learnt more about those, I choose to stay in the traditional x86 Laptops than the ARM due to App compatibility. If I were to use ARM, I would go for the M3 Pro MacBook, and on the other hand, I would be using an AMD Ryzen AI chip for more demanding tasks than going over to Intel's side due to the baked in RAM and whatnot.

  • @benjoe429
    @benjoe429 2 місяці тому

    For me, A laptop is a testbench device for all my applications/coding. Factors that matter the most in order: 1: compatibility with applications (so currently x86), 1: battery life and lightweight, 2: performance . I would love to have a 14-inch Intel 200s device with Nvidia GPU (a 3050 would be fine, to test CUDA programming)

  • @DaneReidVoiceOver
    @DaneReidVoiceOver 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm a PC user but Macs have the best overall hardware. Quiet, powerful even unplugged, long battery, great design, exceptional speakers and touch pad and more. I just can't get past Mac os. That all said, there is no such thing as a bad computer anymore. PC's are super capable now. Anything more powerful than M1 is enough for every user

  • @Rb_mikky
    @Rb_mikky 2 місяці тому

    is M2 air a good choice?

  • @ABGTZ
    @ABGTZ 2 місяці тому

    Great video mate!

  • @Techonsapevole
    @Techonsapevole 2 місяці тому +1

    Please do this test also with Linux

  • @ahmedidriss7191
    @ahmedidriss7191 2 місяці тому

    @ 9:30 You swapped the X-Elite and the Mac

  • @tortysoft
    @tortysoft 2 місяці тому

    M4 air 15 inch if it exists please 16Gb. If not, the M3 Air low end and a Mac Mini as a base station M4 external storage. Access with RVNC+sound I think.

  • @narutodayo
    @narutodayo 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm just annoyed that there aren't 16" laptops with matte screens that have these new CPUs.

  • @TeofilBejan-lg2rt
    @TeofilBejan-lg2rt 2 місяці тому

    9:57 bro the MacBook doesn't have the snapdragon x elite chip

  • @lastsonofthewest2444
    @lastsonofthewest2444 2 місяці тому +4

    I use vMIX (Windows only) to stream live events, and it tends to require a dedicated GPU. Normally, all of us have either pre Strix Point Asus ProArt Laptops, or MSI. They are big, heavy machines, that must be plugged in, both for performance, and because they have 1-2 hours of battery life, at reduced performance on battery. We are testing the new ProArt P16 laptops on Strix Point (AI 370). Pretty good, they have Nvidia 4070's. BUT, we all would love to have a few less POUNDS to carry on flights, and really hoping to see some great things from the Intel Core Gen 2 series. Ideally, we would like $2000-2500 USD price points, 64 GB soldered on RAM, and either Nvidia, or Battlemage (next gen Intel Arc) dedicated GPU's. That having been said, sent my daughter off to college with a rather nice Samsung 16" with Snapdragon, which she loves. Got it on sale for a bit more than $1000. Insane value! Oh, great video!

  • @Vision33r
    @Vision33r 2 місяці тому

    Cloud computing makes performance on a laptop not really important for me but in the future for the masses. Get one with a decent size screen and a good keyboard. All processing in the future will be done in the cloud so it will be less important for big specs.

  • @AceAku
    @AceAku 2 місяці тому +1

    I'd love to see your methodology for the game testing considering I've seen tests where the Intel still can't even match a steam deck.

    • @Thetechchap
      @Thetechchap  2 місяці тому +2

      well, 1080p medium settings with Xess (where applicable) - and ran game benchmarks or used an average from a period of repeatable gameplay. The Arc Xe2 is a big improvement

    • @AceAku
      @AceAku 2 місяці тому

      @@Thetechchap Thanks, appreciate the feedback

    • @lasue7244
      @lasue7244 2 місяці тому +1

      If you have seen the ETA Prime's video, that was a bunch of baloney. So many mistakes.

    • @AceAku
      @AceAku 2 місяці тому

      @@lasue7244 yeah thats the one I was talking about. I did'nt realise, what do you mean?

  • @robertopontelli4902
    @robertopontelli4902 2 місяці тому

    Chaps, do you think we will see Surfave Pro 11 with Lunar Lake?

  • @Kianlewis445
    @Kianlewis445 2 місяці тому

    Great video as always 😊.

  • @8aravindk
    @8aravindk 2 місяці тому

    Excellent video. The 14 inch variants of the Ryzen laptops seem like the sweet spot, especially in Canada.

  • @taoooyz5044
    @taoooyz5044 2 місяці тому

    I believe with future driver update, sp can at least gain 20%+ performance in GPU.

  • @GodUchihaTempest
    @GodUchihaTempest 2 місяці тому +1

    I love my Chromebook yes it can be limited for certain stuff but it does what i need it too fast and reliable only spent 400 on it would refuse too spend more for an mac book or anything else

  • @adityashimoga432
    @adityashimoga432 2 місяці тому

    13:00
    Damn apple m3’s performance fell by whopping 30+% going from plugged in to on battery
    Wasn’t expecting that

  • @highground66
    @highground66 2 місяці тому

    I'd do anything just to get off of windows. Hate the direction that that os's been going in lately. Transfered to macos a while ago and can't see myself switching back

  • @BriefNerdOriginal
    @BriefNerdOriginal 2 місяці тому

    If you compare processors, then please weigh the duration on the battery capacities. If you compare laptops, then please use some with comparable basic specs such as size. This review is well done, if you do not think.

  • @Dog3D
    @Dog3D 2 місяці тому +11

    2:47 these companies need to stop putting stickers in such egregious spots like this. A lot of normies will leave it on and make the laptop look like shit and outdated
    Not only that, but the stickers are misaligned like what 😭

  • @OzyurtGaming-rp8fz
    @OzyurtGaming-rp8fz 2 місяці тому

    I wonder if all battery tests were done at 60hz. It would effect the results a lot in my opinion.

  • @alex_riakhin
    @alex_riakhin 2 місяці тому

    But I can't run Xcode on these, can I?

    • @uranblut
      @uranblut 2 місяці тому

      you know the answer

  • @desmondatkinson4642
    @desmondatkinson4642 2 місяці тому

    I very recently bought an M3 MacBook Air with 16GB RAM/512 GB storage for £1349 at John Lewis, so it is very competitive against those other machines.

  • @malman_is_boiiii
    @malman_is_boiiii 2 місяці тому

    The exact Snapdragon redemption I was hoping for ever since their 2021-2022 years.

  • @goddygesta
    @goddygesta 2 місяці тому

    Nice video edits

  • @HMiah21
    @HMiah21 2 місяці тому +2

    Would love to see a review of the HP Omnibook Ultra Flip 14 when it comes out!

  • @Xenshen1
    @Xenshen1 2 місяці тому +4

    Love your video. It's looking hard. I've tried Strix point. And Snapdragon. Waiting on Intel ultra 2 258

  • @abaj006
    @abaj006 2 місяці тому

    Lunar lake is good, but too weak when plugged in. On the other hand, the Snapdragon and Ryzen are workstation class when plugged in and get good enough battery life on the go.

  • @RobloxianX
    @RobloxianX Місяць тому

    Honestly, a Dell XPS 13 is looking like a better and better option with each passing day. 120hz at the same 1600p resolution, with a way thinner bezel, and a more powerful CPU and GPU at a cheaper price. The only downside is the lack of function keys, but if you're coming from a Touchbar Mac it won't be an issue

  • @mish6568
    @mish6568 2 місяці тому

    I'm using Ryzen since 2017 and I love it. I don't think I will switch it to a different one anytime soon.

  • @OmarSerajKazi
    @OmarSerajKazi 2 місяці тому

    Surface Pro Laptop is the winner for me. ARM apps are coming daily. Running x86 apps under emulation just got a huge update. I'm a writer and an engineer. NPU is vital for improved image editing and video conferencing.

  • @symbioticbuddy4494
    @symbioticbuddy4494 2 місяці тому

    What do you mean by affordable

  • @doppavee4309
    @doppavee4309 2 місяці тому

    The new Snapdragon chip is a beast, however, the lack of app compatibility is a huge dealbreaker so it's probably better to go with Intel or AMD since they aren't that far behind in performance.

  • @Markh7772
    @Markh7772 2 місяці тому

    The new ultra core processors seems very promising. However I just got a m3 MacBook Air, and certainly no windows laptop ive own in the past comes close to the build quality of MacBook. Sure it the base model with 8gb is low but it's never slowed down on me. I do like the fanless design as it absolutely silent.

  • @fredrickbambino
    @fredrickbambino 2 місяці тому +4

    First gen SD chips are pretty close to Mac figures
    Give em a few years and imagine how good it’ll get

    • @theredmonkey
      @theredmonkey 2 місяці тому

      That’s the top SnapDragon and the bottom M3 though. Don’t get me wrong, I am all for it but with AMD and Intel improving so much and SD having incompatibility issues will that doom it? I hope not.