Top 5 PS4 Problems With Solutions

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  • @BillCollins53
    @BillCollins53 5 років тому +1282

    If you've got cockroaches in your ps4 you just need to find a new place to live...

    • @Zeroshiki
      @Zeroshiki 5 років тому +95

      Legit, I have *_never_* had any bugs in a console before.

    • @BOi-_-u_5PTID
      @BOi-_-u_5PTID 4 роки тому +49

      Dude I found a dead ant in my ps4

    • @magnusFTS
      @magnusFTS 4 роки тому +1

      Basically

    • @NoseyBonk5599
      @NoseyBonk5599 4 роки тому +3

      William Collins I found a dead fly

    • @BillCollins53
      @BillCollins53 4 роки тому +70

      @@NoseyBonk5599 a fly is one thing. Seeing Cockroaches is usually a sign there are many more where you cant see them.

  • @khaki714
    @khaki714 5 років тому +1099

    I think SONY engineers need to watch this video.

    • @nicksendolce4978
      @nicksendolce4978 5 років тому +18

      exactly

    • @frankwiddifield7520
      @frankwiddifield7520 5 років тому +11

      Sony ps4 problems are dirty production lines, micro dust in the air will create poor solder joints.

    • @richardgarcia6201
      @richardgarcia6201 5 років тому +11

      They speak Chinese

    • @johnsprogis5742
      @johnsprogis5742 5 років тому +5

      I am not a fan boy, like x box and Sony but it is always funny to see Sony has issues as well

    • @cody2289
      @cody2289 5 років тому +13

      @@frankwiddifield7520 i have had my ps4 for 6 years and i had no problems at all

  • @Simion_T
    @Simion_T 4 роки тому +299

    6th common problem: Dad threw the console out of the window

    • @scropioyt4155
      @scropioyt4155 4 роки тому +9

      Why because I play fortnite to much 😂

    • @jaydenbautista1762
      @jaydenbautista1762 4 роки тому +13

      @@scropioyt4155 my mom wrecked my ps4 because I'm not smart enough to get strait A's ☹️

    • @yeetmaster9558
      @yeetmaster9558 4 роки тому +9

      @@jaydenbautista1762 Straight*

    • @jaydenbautista1762
      @jaydenbautista1762 4 роки тому +13

      @@yeetmaster9558 see wut I mean

    • @larryhickman8866
      @larryhickman8866 4 роки тому +1

      Not thru it out the windows how’s that a problem solve 😂😂😂😂

  • @dresian
    @dresian 5 років тому +88

    I’m incredibly surprised to hear one of the most common problems isn’t with the touch sensitive buttons on the original PS4 that cause it to turn itself on/off and eject the disc sporadically, considering how many people experience this

    • @MarbleThumbs
      @MarbleThumbs Рік тому +1

      Had a PC that would reboot itself randomly, spent months trying to isolate the problem, unplugged the touch reset button, problem solved.

    • @stephencook7337
      @stephencook7337 Рік тому

      Probably because you can’t really fix those issues. You just have to be careful with them…

    • @teamafot3001
      @teamafot3001 Рік тому

      Hi i have a ps4 white light problem and need advice.
      So i traded a faulty xbox one original for a supposed faulty ps4 original from a person that fixes consoles that wanted the Xbox for spares.
      So on the day i got home with the ps4 i used my ps3 cables to power it on and it miraculously powered on which surprised me as the controller was connected properly using the usb cable.
      But i saw the screen flash black then back to the home screen which i didn't know what is was then it did it once more and was displaying perfectly.
      After about 5 mins of waiting for it too show some errors or switching off because i did not expect it to work i plugged in my usb speakers to the other usb port on the front while the controller was plugged in.
      That was when the screen went black instantly. I didn't know what happened and pressed the eject button and a copy of GTA 5 came out which means the console was still powered on.
      When i plug the controller and speakers in on my ps3 super slim at the same time is says too many devices drawing power something like that.
      So i think it drew too much power on the ps4 and caused a wlod on the ps4.
      Im trying to do a home repair with minimal tools and if you could give me some idea of what the usb ports could have shorted eg a transistor or fuses or something.
      It still powers on and everything but that was the defining factor i think that contributed to the white light of death.
      Any recommendations would help as ive watched a lot of UA-cam videos and most are the ic chip or some transistor .
      Its a original ps4 with wlod

  • @ericsmith393
    @ericsmith393 3 роки тому +20

    Just wanna say thank you so much man with your help I fully repaired two ps 4 consoles this morning from disk drive to board , your tutorial covered literally everything I need to know and needed to do , thank you so much for all the input .

  • @dynatwenty
    @dynatwenty 4 роки тому +70

    Problem 6: trying to run Cyberpunk 2077.
    Solution: None.

    • @Old_Skool4Life
      @Old_Skool4Life 3 роки тому

      But cyberpunk on ps5 and xbox series x runs smoothly!

    • @dynatwenty
      @dynatwenty 3 роки тому +1

      @@Old_Skool4Life cool!

    • @sabagegelashvili916
      @sabagegelashvili916 3 роки тому +3

      @@Old_Skool4Life still a garbage game lmfao

    • @aceofspades8792
      @aceofspades8792 3 роки тому

      @@sabagegelashvili916 still no one asked ur opinion lmfao

    • @sabagegelashvili916
      @sabagegelashvili916 3 роки тому +1

      @@aceofspades8792 and no one asked for your comment,Lmfao!

  • @therubbisholdgamer2183
    @therubbisholdgamer2183 5 років тому +424

    Got an ebay PS4 for £70 including postage with a broken disk drive opened it up and found a coin jammed in the mechanism and that was all that was wrong with it :)

    • @Oliverfarmer
      @Oliverfarmer 5 років тому +22

      The Rubbish Old Gamer lucky you

    • @elgigante2001
      @elgigante2001 5 років тому +25

      Same here, I bought one for $90 with broken disc drive as well. I found a nickel in it and the rollers just needed a quick wipe down with IPA, and works just fine now.

    • @pancake376
      @pancake376 5 років тому +5

      Soul Blaster lol who knows

    • @gustavofaceoff4338
      @gustavofaceoff4338 5 років тому +1

      🤣🤣

    • @kevincrossland1898
      @kevincrossland1898 5 років тому +37

      @@Sorvyn it's like an arcade game, you have to put coins into the slot to play

  • @Deeplycloseted435
    @Deeplycloseted435 6 років тому +12

    Nice video. My PS4 has been the most reliable Playstation I’ve ever owned since my OG Playstation, not PSOne, but just plain old Playstation ala 1996. PS2 had disc read problems, so I bought a slim, and PS3 I had repaired four times, and bought another.
    PS4 has been rock solid so far. I use it everyday, between 2-10 hours a day as its our entertainment center basically. Plays blurays, youtube, Hulu, HBOgo, Netflix, Amazon, etc.

  • @dandy7876
    @dandy7876 4 роки тому +103

    nobody:
    Sony: “send us your ps4 so we can replace the hard drive for you, then we will clean the parts and that will be an extra 75-125$”

    • @itsDevChaudhary
      @itsDevChaudhary 4 роки тому +1

      Cowboy beboop ❤️

    • @ogungbemioluwadamilola3925
      @ogungbemioluwadamilola3925 3 роки тому +1

      RYANSROOM617 on instagram was able to get my ps4 out of safe mode for me .. thank you Ryan he’s a pro hacker and legit 💯 .. you can also call him +1 303-219-8042

    • @sabagegelashvili916
      @sabagegelashvili916 3 роки тому +1

      @@ogungbemioluwadamilola3925 you needed helpt getting your ps4 out of safe mode?

    • @warlordofvideogameglitches
      @warlordofvideogameglitches 3 роки тому

      Its 155 dollars to set it to the repair shop.

    • @UNCLEMCDonald41
      @UNCLEMCDonald41 8 місяців тому

      ⁠@@sabagegelashvili916hey do you have any idea of what I can do to fix it? Mine is showing safe mode and Turing of

  • @honspeter6208
    @honspeter6208 7 років тому +577

    And now i'm really paranoid that my ps4 will break any moment ! Thanks i guess

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  7 років тому +54

      Ha, ha...you're welcome! Lots and lots of PS4's never have problems. These are just the most common repairs I see at my repair shop.

    • @adonian
      @adonian 7 років тому +3

      TronicsFix I have 4 ps4's. One for me and one for each kid. Mine is the one with physical buttons, the other three have capacitive buttons and one has the eject whenever the hell it feels like problem. I have removed the rubber foot and constantly clean it are there any other ways to fix that?

    • @MrDebexYT
      @MrDebexYT 7 років тому +2

      +adonian Open your ps4 and place a piece of sticky tape over the eject sensor, I also had this issue with the first ps4 I bought. Then to eject a disk you have to use your controller through the menu.

    • @amylee9092
      @amylee9092 7 років тому +1

      Should have bought a Wii U like any sane gamer! Good luck legally playing all of Nintendo's greats, suckers! Power is always trumped by FEATURES! Suck it, Sony!

    • @bondovwvw
      @bondovwvw 7 років тому +2

      I would love to have a rear USB port on my PS4. I have the launch edition I don't know if the pro or any of the other ones have a rear USB?

  • @johnsl7293
    @johnsl7293 5 років тому +4

    My Ps4 has always been plugged into a power strip and I've been having the blue light problem as well. Glad there is still a possibility for me to fix my ps4 without getting a hardware fix/ps4 replacement.

  • @bluedash24
    @bluedash24 5 років тому +25

    Hey, this is a very informative video! I appreciate having this compilation of common problems with these consoles so that in case anything does happen I can be sure to be prepared, or in the very least informed. I’m familiar with most of these problems, but the fixes are very useful to keep in mind! However, I do have a question that may or may not be completely unrelated to any of the issues mentioned here:
    I have a FAT model PS4 (it’s a limited edition though so I believe it does have some slight improvements like power use in comparison to the launch models). Sometimes when I’m playing it, I may hear this quiet little “beep” coming from within the system. It’s not nearly as loud as the powering off or overheating beep, but it can be heard if you’re paying attention. I am not sure if it occurs in random increments or not, but it is somewhat concerning to me whenever I do hear it. I can’t recall if this was always something that happened, as the first couple of years I’ve had it have been a little blurry, but I do in fact believe this has been occurring for the past 2 years or so. Is this a sign of some unknown issue or is it the machinery within the console just doing it’s normal stuff whilst running? Thanks.

  • @erikaluna8432
    @erikaluna8432 6 років тому +131

    you are in everything 100% right. I don’t know why people are stupied and dislike, sorry

  • @jdhorton1432
    @jdhorton1432 5 років тому +21

    Wow! Thanks so much for taking time to share this information with us! Much appreciated! ✌🏾

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  5 років тому +2

      You're welcome!

    • @lprules5162
      @lprules5162 4 роки тому

      @@Tronicsfix I know I’m late but thank you and my ps4 still makes this rattling sound

    • @gtaplayboi6
      @gtaplayboi6 2 роки тому

      @@Tronicsfixneed a quick tip with my ps4 to save all my videos on my hard drive please bud im desperate

  • @waltercomunello121
    @waltercomunello121 5 років тому +10

    The solder balls cracking problem is common to all flip chips / BGA mountings (i.e. Xbox/PS2 onwards, strikingly prominent in the seventh generation with Xbox 360 and PS3) due to the redistribution of metals in the solder alloy and even on the copper pads themselves, that get sort of "eaten away" by solder to an extent. This thing is well known since the 90s in scientific articles, before even the PS2 came to be. Flip chips are basically time bombs likely to fail sooner or later IF serious heat sinking countermeasures are not taken. Redistribution of metal is faster at high temperatures. Board warping and solder ball cracking kick in earlier if the console isn't cooled down properly; this sort of design flaws contribute to the overall behaviour of the solder.
    Reballing isn't guaranteed to fix the problem; flip chips have tiny solder balls between the chip itself (that shiny rectangle on the smaller organic board) and the organic board, which is soldered directly on the motherboard. If those tiny solder balls fail, there ain't any "reballing" that can fix it, only a complete CPU/GPU/APU replacement with a brand new one.

    • @asakayosapro
      @asakayosapro 3 роки тому +6

      The real problem is crappy lead-free solder.
      Replacing the crappy fake lead-free solder with real leaded solder balls makes for proper reballing repairs as long as the chip itself as well as the actual pads on the board and the chip are not damaged.
      Some of the chips on the older consoles had RAM chips BGA-mounted on the processor chip base itself, and more often than not those would get bad as well; the fix was to de-lid the chip and attempt to reball those, but at that point the effort and time spent was only barely worth it to save the one chip - and all because of inferior solder, and the environmentalist crazies who made it happen.

  • @ra6865
    @ra6865 6 років тому +299

    1000 years in to the future. cockroaches dominate the planet beacuse of ps4.

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  6 років тому +12

      Ha, ha...plausible!

    • @lauratippytoes2446
      @lauratippytoes2446 5 років тому +2

      For real, though! 😡🤬😡 cockroaches.

    • @frantaskachanka
      @frantaskachanka 5 років тому +1

      @@Tronicsfix my ps4 turns of by its self after a few min. It does not turn on and off like you explained but just simply shuts off. Ive changed the power chord too, clean the fan and took it apart to tight every bolt now and then. What could it be?

    • @S.Ladd67
      @S.Ladd67 5 років тому

      @@frantaskachanka You need a replacement it sounds like, don't waist your time trying to fix it.

    • @kcuzumaki
      @kcuzumaki 5 років тому

      @@Tronicsfix where is tronicsfix located

  • @davidpoulson7172
    @davidpoulson7172 6 років тому +30

    Thank you for an informative and useful video. Your advice resurrected a non working PS4.

  • @IIDynamoDuckII
    @IIDynamoDuckII 5 років тому +25

    Yes, I bought a few ps4s that were broken and every one had a bad hdmi port, even had one that look like it had been repaired but the soldering was really bad. I never had a problem with my own personal day1 ps4 though and the hdmi has been plugged in/out 1000s of times

  • @grizzly9960
    @grizzly9960 6 років тому +12

    I love that T-Shirt lol. Can you imagine how huge that repair manual would be

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  6 років тому +6

      Ha, ha..that would be cool to see!

  • @abbasalkhafaji
    @abbasalkhafaji 5 років тому +143

    10:39 "being hot is not a problem"
    Now I am relieved 😌

    • @EhCloserLook
      @EhCloserLook 4 роки тому +8

      Abbas Alkhafaji This is something I’ve known since puberty.

    • @amandawilliams2266
      @amandawilliams2266 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah baby lol 😂

    • @prexull3446
      @prexull3446 4 роки тому +2

      Hahahahahahaha I thought the same thing 😂😂😂 to funny 🤣😭

    • @1015blakie
      @1015blakie 4 роки тому

      @@joshuabuilds3051 tried to clean it and the controller doesn’t work now 😔

    • @andreilucian10
      @andreilucian10 3 роки тому

      What about EXTRA HOT? :))

  • @eriksforestryvision8751
    @eriksforestryvision8751 2 роки тому

    It's amazing this is 5years ago. My slim shuts of after 1-2 seconds. Took it apart 2-3 years ago due to the disk drive dust cover fell off into the drive. Used your videos to help me take it apart etc. Worked for about 6-9 months and then the blue light of death.
    I'll attempt the washer trick, thanks for the great informative videos!

  • @jdthompson8783
    @jdthompson8783 5 років тому +48

    I thought I had the CPU ball problem and had almost given up hope, but all it needed was some thermal paste! Boom!

    • @mikekaze7175
      @mikekaze7175 5 років тому +8

      how old is your ps4 ?

    • @hernanisilva10
      @hernanisilva10 3 роки тому +1

      It's dead now 😂

    • @andrewmccroy3267
      @andrewmccroy3267 3 роки тому +1

      I hope that's the only problem with my PS4

    • @jdthompson8783
      @jdthompson8783 3 роки тому +1

      @@hernanisilva10 still goin strong! but I had to replace the power supply

    • @jdthompson8783
      @jdthompson8783 3 роки тому +1

      @@andrewmccroy3267 Mine eventually was a power supply problem. it's hard to diagnose, i rigged up an old PC power supply to test it (not the safest thing to do but there are some guides out there)

  • @jonsilvermt1771
    @jonsilvermt1771 5 років тому +87

    "there's a bug in the system" lol XD

    • @Simion_T
      @Simion_T 4 роки тому +2

      God is the mighty developer

  • @BOB88o
    @BOB88o 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks!

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the support! Glad this video helped you out.

  • @YinxZork
    @YinxZork 7 років тому +27

    I love your video because you explained everything so well and easy too understand
    Thanks

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  7 років тому +1

      Glad you liked it!

    • @amylee9092
      @amylee9092 7 років тому

      Jinxzork Say screw it and buy a Wii U or Switch!

  • @erolgazi9867
    @erolgazi9867 5 років тому +24

    I have this „unknown disk“ error, i just have to tap three times on the top while PS4 starts reading disc.

    • @ccovnottz
      @ccovnottz 4 роки тому +6

      Could be crap stopping the laser move to read the disc, tapping it probably helps the laser dislodge itself so it can move to read the disc. so try cleaning inside the drive mate.

  • @arijitnaskar3028
    @arijitnaskar3028 4 роки тому +1

    After watching so many videos and experience that you have, I am writing to you With all due respect and love from India🙏.
    My PS4 just broke down 2 days back..it all started with a freeze in the screen while playing battlefield 4 campaign mode. Then wen I switched on the PS4, it said " checking system storage" and then it switched off again. After that they asked to reinstall the 7.55 update in USB and reboot.i also did that...since then I have been keeping on doing the same.
    Sometimes after initialization, system does turn on and wen I try loading games from cd or downloading apps, I have noticed that it takes alot of time to load a game from the CD which is very unusual.
    In a while it lags, system freezes or turns black automatically.
    Finally system asks for the 7.55 update in a USB again.
    With all hope I am writing to you and praying you to provide a solution for my above issue..Thanks bhaiya( Back in India it means elder brother)🙏

  • @mariopalma5557
    @mariopalma5557 7 років тому +226

    "There's bugs in the system..." Keep in mind, a new patch release doesn't resolve the problem... LMFAO

    • @DustinBruce31
      @DustinBruce31 7 років тому +2

      Mário Palma failure is not an option, it comes bundled with the software...

    • @MostLuckiest
      @MostLuckiest 6 років тому

      small dab of silicone adhesive or more perm contact cement and trimmed pieces of window screen over the vents .. ez fix

    • @notdoingthisanymorelol
      @notdoingthisanymorelol 6 років тому +4

      A new update just slows down the original ps4 and slim just so you make your mind and buy a ps4 pro :v

    • @AlexiaVon
      @AlexiaVon 6 років тому +1

      Apples favourite game

    • @pinklightninggacha
      @pinklightninggacha 5 років тому

      @@TommyTom21 which launch model there's been three versions launched

  • @ericgeneric5548
    @ericgeneric5548 7 років тому +159

    "there's bugs in the system" lol, and I thought bugs in software were bad.

    • @amyhoard1222
      @amyhoard1222 5 років тому +9

      So that means we have both buggy games due to unfinished games being released and bugs in the ps4 itself cause they make a great bug hotel >

    • @sparkz1554
      @sparkz1554 5 років тому +1

      @Irfan Spirtovic they get up to all sorts of antics they do :D

    • @pinklightninggacha
      @pinklightninggacha 5 років тому

      @@amyhoard1222 they do not make a great bug hotel they make an expensive nightmare after cocky's take out the power supply and the power supply's pcb is rarely fit for repair when they are done

    • @awilliams1701
      @awilliams1701 5 років тому +2

      Actually that's where that term originated. Computers used to be mechanical. A bug in your program would literally be a bug in your program. When computers became electrical and more complex the term stuck with it.

    • @larry7274
      @larry7274 5 років тому +1

      🤣😂

  • @duchuyle3258
    @duchuyle3258 2 роки тому

    Just fixed my PlayStation4 with the help of this video. All I needed was a new HDMI cable. Whew

  • @lanceshelton5024
    @lanceshelton5024 3 роки тому +3

    I really enjoy watching your repair and educational videos! Your delicate work doesn't go unnoticed.. If I ever need work on mine I would love for you to help me out with the repair.

    • @CHETLER
      @CHETLER 2 роки тому +2

      honestly give it a go yourself, follow a tutorial, be delicate and organise the parts you won't go wrong. done a ps3, ps4 and ps4 pro myself upgrading and replacing parts and installing new thermal paste.

  • @volcanix8850
    @volcanix8850 4 роки тому +20

    When I turn my ps4 on everything goes fine for just like 8-10 minutes and suddenly some glitched dots come on the screen (on any monitor) and it suddenly turns off.
    I went to a repairing shop and i got to know that the ps4 processor needs to be fixed others said that the motherboard has a problem.
    Now I dont know whats true and dont know wat to do

    • @BootBC_
      @BootBC_ 4 роки тому

      Buy a new ps4

    • @justin-fb8qn
      @justin-fb8qn 4 роки тому +1

      Heeduz mine turns on put first it says checking storage status then it loads up the ps4 dashboard and then it has the white light and ive done factory reset my ps4 and it didnt help so im trying to download my game and it wont download and then when i try to delete it it goes black screen then turns back on like its just turning back on

    • @daveys_gaming_corner
      @daveys_gaming_corner 4 роки тому +1

      Thats overheating my guy clean the APU heatsink reapply thermal paste

    • @KushKrazyGang
      @KushKrazyGang 4 роки тому

      Mines doing the same thing. It will stay on for 10 minutes then shut down on it's own. Not to mention its lagging to

    • @ruffryder1990
      @ruffryder1990 4 роки тому

      @@justin-fb8qn sounds like hard drive failure on urs

  • @UltimatelyEverything
    @UltimatelyEverything Рік тому

    Steve is the best person to go to when it comes to electrical devices i'd trust him 100% if i left any of mine with him for a repair or maybe a good clean and i'd pay him whatever he wants for the job.

  • @eluminaryxarrais7735
    @eluminaryxarrais7735 7 років тому +174

    I have over 10,000 hours on my ps4 I got it within a month of release, never had a single issue.

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  7 років тому +40

      Most Ps4's don't have any issues.

    • @bryansmith1881
      @bryansmith1881 7 років тому +5

      I've heard that if you have the ps4 running in stand mode, the solder will slip. unless you have a stand with a base fan cooling the system.

    • @bentennyson2398
      @bentennyson2398 7 років тому +4

      Bryan Smith I've had my ps4 like that for 3 weeks now and no problem.

    • @verndelap
      @verndelap 7 років тому +2

      i got mine a week after release and i forget to turn it off all the time, leaving it on for days sometimes even, and i have yet to have any problems with my PS4 at all. i probably got well past 10,000 hours myself. lol

    • @magnus00125
      @magnus00125 7 років тому

      I have a ps4 slim. I hope its more reliable than ps3 fat

  • @indikaprabash8084
    @indikaprabash8084 6 років тому +5

    PERFECT EXPLANATION,THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
    HIGHLY APPRECIATED,
    CHEERS 🍻 FROM DENMARK 🇩🇰

  • @lisabyerly5513
    @lisabyerly5513 4 роки тому

    Someone gave me a PS4 that was broken and by what they told me I figured it was the fan I took it apart after watching a UA-cam video on how to do it and it was full I'm dead cockroaches and dander I cleaned it out I changed the fan and I now have a working PS4. Thanks to all the info you have put out there I am grateful.

    • @lisabyerly5513
      @lisabyerly5513 4 роки тому

      Oh I also got rid of the Cockroach infestation in his house ask me how. No I will tell you it was the syringes of poison don't buy the little bits just go get a bunch of those syringes and empty them out all over the place it will kill them all but you also have to keep doing it for a couple of months till you get every last egg that hatches just keep putting that stuff out

    • @ogungbemioluwadamilola3925
      @ogungbemioluwadamilola3925 4 роки тому

      Ok so this pc was built in 2010 i changed the old parts with new one but when i start pc the monitor showed no display and the usb ports stoped working, then i met RYANSROOM617 on Instagram he help me setup my PC back and is working perfectly, he also helped my kids unbanned their ps4 .. He's a pro hacker and legit 👩‍💻
      You can also text him on WhatsApp +1 442 233 0240... ... try him his service is affordable ...

  • @lusly258
    @lusly258 5 років тому +11

    One thing you didn’t mention is the PS4 ejection discs, it’s a huge problem. Can you do a video on a fix, or how to fix this please, or suggestions

  • @ozoneswiftak
    @ozoneswiftak 5 років тому +18

    Thank you. I'm gonna swapp the dvd board back on to my new dvd drive. If I would have known this I would not have ordered a new blue ray player/ drive but just the laser. So everyone else knows. Just replace the laser.

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  5 років тому +2

      Yep, just replace the laser unless there's more wrong with the drive.

    • @ozoneswiftak
      @ozoneswiftak 5 років тому +2

      It's working now!!! Thank you.

    • @kspade8751
      @kspade8751 4 роки тому

      How much does it cost for a replacement laser and where do you go to buy one

    • @heresjonny.
      @heresjonny. 3 роки тому

      @@kspade8751 amazon and less than 20$

  • @QuietSniperX
    @QuietSniperX 4 роки тому

    I have just refurbished my first PS4 slim this evening. Bought it super cheap off eBay and fixed it for my own use and I never transferred the circuit board off the blueray drive to the new drive and its working fine. No errors or issues. Replaced the HDD with an SSD, replaced the blueray drive and the fan and put new thermal paste on the cpu. The amount of dust inside it was unreal, it wasn't dust bunnies so much as dust walls. And it stank of cigarette smoke. Had a thorough cleansing with isopropyl alcohol .

  • @Artimes.
    @Artimes. 4 роки тому +6

    As most support specialists know, doing a complete format and repartition of a drive will most likely fix any kind of curroption on a disk drive. But the problem is how do you recover the lost data during this procedure when the PS4 drive is not recognizable to windows. How do you salvage the drive from a GPT protected partition that does not allow you to use any disk checking tools or any sort of diagnostics. That is the big 1 million dollar question that needs to be answered and I been searching and searching for hrs trying to find a damn resolution to this problem. Recovering the data > Reformated the hardrive > reinstalling the drive with the new firmware update > and finally, restoring all your data to the new formatted drive. Anyone have any solutations at all with how to perform these tasks.

    • @ledumpsterfire6474
      @ledumpsterfire6474 2 роки тому

      Agreed, but it's probably going to take some serious reverse engineering workarounds to figure that out.
      If people could do it easily, Sony would lose out on all the money they make because people tragically lost a year worth of save data, leading them to buy PS+ for the save data cloud backups for the future. Make it easy enough for the average person to just pop it into their computer and recover the data, they lose out on all but the laziest of offline gamers' money.

  • @feathersareheavierthansteel
    @feathersareheavierthansteel 7 років тому +36

    I placed my Ps4 inside a pantyhose, because positive results from my pc. No dust, no bugs, no overheat.

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  7 років тому +10

      Interesting idea.

    • @awarely
      @awarely 7 років тому +9

      Kiryu Mekagojira I wanna see a picture of that I’m interested

    • @jakedizzle
      @jakedizzle 6 років тому +1

      That's actually a really good idea!!! Thank you.

    • @elizabethbostick7119
      @elizabethbostick7119 6 років тому +7

      What's a pantyhose

    • @zeelong1589
      @zeelong1589 6 років тому +2

      Lmao

  • @TheSummonkey
    @TheSummonkey 4 роки тому

    Thank you from a fellow pdx resident. I tore apart my ps4 to clean it out. I plugged everything back in and it gave the white light. I was already looking to buy a new one and tried a different HDMI cord and boom it worked.

  • @simon4casy
    @simon4casy 4 роки тому +8

    I laughed when he said "Your console is full of bugs"

    • @andreilucian10
      @andreilucian10 3 роки тому

      He has videos with ps4 full of bugs :))

  • @crowbarviking3890
    @crowbarviking3890 4 роки тому +2

    Old video but still gonna comment.
    The powerstrip issue could be due to a voltage drop.
    The longer the power line to the device is, the less voltage remains due to the resistance in the extended line.
    Now if it is a really cheap powerstrip, it could have really thin lines, which have a higher resistance.
    Or if you are far from the house / power net connection you also might have a voltage drop which adds to the power strip voltage drop.
    One could try to run the console on a regulated power supply and drop the voltage a bit.
    The US usually has 110V right? Maybe check how much you can lower it till you get that error.

  • @63meetrajaghara14
    @63meetrajaghara14 4 роки тому

    Thx for the overheating concept. I actually thought that my ps4 slim has fault and now I'm relieved. Thank you sir🙏

  • @callmexxjacobxx
    @callmexxjacobxx 4 роки тому +3

    I’ve always wondered if ps4 has had more overheating issues than xbox one because more people bought ps4 or because of design 🤔

    • @unknownhicks6473
      @unknownhicks6473 2 роки тому

      True asf my experience with over heat only is you just need to clean the fan and heat sink

  • @HiHi-jh2uz
    @HiHi-jh2uz 5 років тому +4

    I don’t plug things directly into the wall, as it will short the whole house (apparently).

  • @julianocampagna6058
    @julianocampagna6058 5 років тому

    Great video! I've already had the 1) Hdmi and 4) Dvd drive problems, now I should clean my 2015 ps4 to avoid the 3) Overheat problem

  • @burnouty
    @burnouty 5 років тому +8

    when i plug the HDMI cable to the monitor and i touch the end side of the cable i get zapped from it why does it do that

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  5 років тому +17

      Because there is voltage going through the cable.

    • @Danielle33384
      @Danielle33384 5 років тому +6

      TronicsFix 😂

  • @BumbleBee101
    @BumbleBee101 5 років тому +9

    When trying to fix blue light of death does the safe mode "fix" actually work?

    • @SuperChip16
      @SuperChip16 4 роки тому

      Not on my PS4. My PS4 restarts and restarts again in safe mode. Doesn’t exit safe mode while turn on.

  • @jaxtheax1
    @jaxtheax1 4 роки тому

    I watched your video for one minute and subscribed very professional educational and well put!!!! Keep up the good work

  • @zado5802
    @zado5802 4 роки тому +3

    I need help I changed my thermal paste to artic 5 I blew out everything in the PlayStation and even the fan is spotless but it always overheats and the fan gets very loud

    • @luchvk
      @luchvk 4 роки тому

      Three questions: How hot is the area where the console is? Also, how much thermal paste did you put? Lastly, did you tighten the processor clamp evenly?

    • @zado5802
      @zado5802 4 роки тому

      luchvk cold like a bit it’s a lil much tho I think I spread around but there was small extras around the place where we put the thermal paste and yes

  • @elitebanditsextras7025
    @elitebanditsextras7025 6 років тому +13

    My ps4 turns on but it starts to fade out in the middle of me playing

  • @BOB88o
    @BOB88o 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the post I was able to fix my ps4 pro by bending chip heat sink bracket just a little bit and thermal grease good as new !

  • @wastelandroach1312
    @wastelandroach1312 7 років тому +82

    Damn roaches. Always knocking out the power supply AND thinking it's funny. Nice T-shirt. I also own a space shuttle and the damn roaches knocked the power supply out of that too. Can I borrow your Haynes manual so I can get it up and running again?

    • @Avrelianvs1870123
      @Avrelianvs1870123 7 років тому +1

      Have you also checked the thrusters heat sinks ? They might be lurking in there too,waiting for the next move on the portal gun PSU.

    • @subarutime5089
      @subarutime5089 6 років тому

      Tony Terrasi a

    • @OGFallen-
      @OGFallen- 6 років тому

      Tony Terrasi 😂😂😂😂

    • @pinklightninggacha
      @pinklightninggacha 5 років тому

      Was it using a ps4 power supply I say stick with em mate don't switch to xbox I pulled one down and found out microsoft don't stick fuses in their power supply's whereas sony does

  • @EternalBeatbox
    @EternalBeatbox 5 років тому +3

    when my ps4 is off it beep constantly like someone is pressing the eject button and when i turn it on the disc drive starts up like it's trying to eject a disk
    i have to unplug the the AC cord from the wall when i sleep or it wakes me up its so annoying .

    • @ToldYouSo18
      @ToldYouSo18 5 років тому

      What version ps4 do you have? The one with the half glossy look or the matt?? The matt version has a mechanical button, could be this is stuck

    • @EternalBeatbox
      @EternalBeatbox 5 років тому

      @@ToldYouSo18 i have the 2014 model

  • @kevinmartin14
    @kevinmartin14 4 роки тому +1

    I watch you and I think you are amazing at what you do fixing all these gadgets expires me to do it myself

  • @tacticalbt1023
    @tacticalbt1023 7 років тому +104

    My ps4 has been in two floods and still works so I've been pretty lucky!! My Xbox one barley works and it hasn't been in any floods 😂

    • @KTlightning
      @KTlightning 7 років тому +10

      Blake Turner dude you are a lucky legend 😂

    • @hihi-mr6gb
      @hihi-mr6gb 6 років тому +3

      ps4s are light so they float. not the pro though

    • @leonneel
      @leonneel 6 років тому +5

      Fyi xbox one's are more reliable.

    • @notdoingthisanymorelol
      @notdoingthisanymorelol 6 років тому +4

      Your xbox will float too
      WiLl FlOaT tOo!.
      WILL FLOAT TOOOO

    • @nicoharjunpaa2912
      @nicoharjunpaa2912 6 років тому +5

      @@leonneel xbox can break any second theyre uselless unlike ps4

  • @meep_meep2951
    @meep_meep2951 5 років тому +9

    What should i do if one of the hdmi port pins is bent

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  5 років тому +5

      Unfortunately, the HDMI port will need to be replaced.

    • @foe_jah5453
      @foe_jah5453 4 роки тому

      TronicsFix my hdmi ports keeps skippibg

  • @FilipDautovic
    @FilipDautovic 2 роки тому

    Nice T-Shirt 👍😁
    Very informative video as always, no idea how I haven't watched it until now. I must say your videos have come a long way since 👍

  • @Anthony-gn7nh
    @Anthony-gn7nh 7 років тому +7

    Hello, I'm about to send my PS4 in for hdmi repair and where can I get a discount code from?

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  7 років тому +2

      Unfortunately, we don't have any discount codes...sorry about that.

    • @MartellThaCool
      @MartellThaCool 7 років тому +2

      TronicsFix hello there, sir 😀 sorry to bother you. how much do you fixed PS3 slim as it seems to be slowing down, frozen, crashes and non response time after time. I'm from Toledo Ohio and how much would it be for shipping and handling

    • @jeffreydesormeaux7058
      @jeffreydesormeaux7058 7 років тому

      Martell Tha Cool I just gotta tell you that it should be $15 to $20 for shipping and I'm not sure if @tronicsfix would repair a PS3 slim but you never know :/

  • @MikeGervasi
    @MikeGervasi 5 років тому +22

    Seems to me most common problem is the constant disc eject tones.

  • @hawkshadow22
    @hawkshadow22 4 дні тому +1

    Ps4 slim fan not spinning, replaced fan and thermal paste and deep cleaned system, new fan still not spinning at all. Help!!!

  • @crossxl5328
    @crossxl5328 5 років тому +7

    I accidentally dropped my ps4 and now the cover pops up and I’m trying to push it back in but it’s not budging

    • @ogungbemioluwadamilola3925
      @ogungbemioluwadamilola3925 3 роки тому

      RYANSROOM617 on instagram was able to get my ps4 out of safe mode for me .. thank you Ryan he’s a pro hacker and legit 💯 .. you can also call him +1 303-219-8042

  • @LotsaLOUD
    @LotsaLOUD 7 років тому +139

    ps4 random disc ejection

    • @JNR22B
      @JNR22B 7 років тому +8

      LotsaLOUD it's the dodgey touch buttons try first cleaning it and keep it constantly clean.
      Remove the rubber leg under the button and if it still continues you need to open it up and disable it and eject thru the in game menu

    • @amorale16
      @amorale16 7 років тому +1

      LotsaLOUD look up David Rutledge. he has a video fix. pretty simple and works.

    • @akatsukisixsixsix6522
      @akatsukisixsixsix6522 7 років тому +6

      Another common issue for random disc ejecting is the ps screw loosening, easy fix, remove the left top side of the ps4 (It slides off) and you'll see a very specific screw with the ps controller symbols, tighten that up a bit. Hopefully problem solved.

    • @wiseguy100
      @wiseguy100 7 років тому +8

      The gold plate scratch fix is the only way to 100% stop the auto eject issue.

    • @thehead69
      @thehead69 7 років тому

      this this is what i get

  • @danielzepeda9153
    @danielzepeda9153 2 роки тому

    Even today saving lives..the prongs on the hdmi port were folded up to the back many thx🙏🙏

  • @aminrafiq132
    @aminrafiq132 7 років тому +8

    Very useful information. Thanks.

  • @Raggs89
    @Raggs89 5 років тому +19

    lol I cant believe becoming infested with actual bugs is a legit problem xD Hats off to whom ever edited the video footage tho
    Question, I took apart my ps4 control to replace the x-axis switch on one of the thumb sticks, now instead of flashing blue when it (the controller) turns on it flashes red and half the time the light doesn't stay on even tho the controller is in fact on... what did I do -.- and is it fixable

  • @theflamingcube1976
    @theflamingcube1976 5 років тому +1

    I had the first problem and luckily it wasn't anything too complicated, i just had to switch my ps4 HDMI cable with my Xbox 360 HDMI cable, both still work

  • @insanevideos6580
    @insanevideos6580 5 років тому +6

    What about a disc inserting slowly

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  5 років тому +5

      Probably has dirty rollers.

    • @insanevideos6580
      @insanevideos6580 5 років тому +5

      @@Tronicsfix thank you very much now my disc insert into the ps4 perfectly fine after I cleaned the rollers thank you very much

  • @hammadkhalidshaikh3279
    @hammadkhalidshaikh3279 5 років тому +34

    You forgot the sixth most important Point . ' Girlfriends crashing/Damaging your consoles" :(

    • @sarahmcglauflin6134
      @sarahmcglauflin6134 5 років тому +3

      I have serious doubts that the person making this comment actually has a girlfriend.

    • @miinaemad749
      @miinaemad749 4 роки тому +1

      @@sarahmcglauflin6134 stfu please

    • @sarahmcglauflin6134
      @sarahmcglauflin6134 4 роки тому

      @@miinaemad749 Gladly, if you'll do the same.

  • @sergiodiaz8630
    @sergiodiaz8630 3 роки тому

    I guess that shows ps4's should be taken care of carefully,my mom would be thinking the ps4 is overheating because it feels hot,and I just sold a ps4 that didnt display on screen,very informative video👍

  • @Mert-nn7ib
    @Mert-nn7ib 5 років тому +3

    Mine keeps saying system software error and try’s to fix database and that’s on loop 😭

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  5 років тому +2

      Could be a hard drive issue

    • @Mert-nn7ib
      @Mert-nn7ib 5 років тому

      TronicsFix thanks for the response. But a lot of people got the same issue at the same time like a month ago . I’m just gonna find a store where they can fix it i will probably make it worse

    • @ericbecerra2786
      @ericbecerra2786 4 роки тому +1

      @@Mert-nn7ib did u ever figure out the problem?

    • @Mert-nn7ib
      @Mert-nn7ib 4 роки тому

      Eric Becerra yes my hard drive was damaged i had to change it and now it works fine 😂

    • @foetnitem4317
      @foetnitem4317 4 роки тому

      @Mert does ur ps4 work now

  • @elFulberto
    @elFulberto 5 років тому +6

    11:10 I misheard it as "there are some real kamikazes of overheating"...

  • @RobinStrower
    @RobinStrower 5 років тому +1

    Great video! I always thought SONY promised bug free gaming in their consoles xD
    Subscribed.
    All the best,
    Robin

  • @slowga4215
    @slowga4215 5 років тому +10

    Up voted just for the shirt... I want one.

  • @Tdizzle2010
    @Tdizzle2010 6 років тому +4

    I got the 1st gen destiny white ps4 and only problem i had was it spitting the game out while playing it in result you have to remove the bottom rubber bumper

    • @amyhoard1222
      @amyhoard1222 5 років тому +1

      Or you start digitally downloading games so there are no discs to spit out in the 1st place...

  • @nextpill1013
    @nextpill1013 3 роки тому +1

    I get the ce-30005-8 cannot start application error i can't play games that require disc

  • @redacted5221
    @redacted5221 5 років тому +10

    this ain’t my type of job, my phobia of cockroaches said no.

    • @redacted5221
      @redacted5221 5 років тому +3

      ??? bruh I said this ain’t my type of job

    • @1015blakie
      @1015blakie 4 роки тому

      Same I hate cockroaches 🤢 why they look like that

  • @MrDjamison
    @MrDjamison 5 років тому +3

    My pro keeps freezing and lagging on screen transitions and all my downloaded games

    • @Marxz.x
      @Marxz.x 5 років тому

      same

    • @spade3510
      @spade3510 5 років тому

      Did u fixed it ?

    • @Marxz.x
      @Marxz.x 5 років тому

      @@spade3510 nope

    • @spade3510
      @spade3510 5 років тому

      @@Marxz.x i got a new problem now my ps4 beeps 3 times and turned off after 2mins

    • @lostindacloudss
      @lostindacloudss 5 років тому

      darrell jamison put your PS4 on safe mode, then select option #5 which should be to "rebuild the database". That options fixes lag/freezing issues, corrupted data etc.

  • @im_ur_doomsayer2783
    @im_ur_doomsayer2783 4 роки тому

    BTW your channel is awesome I have learned a lot from all the consoles.

  • @Sun-Tzu-
    @Sun-Tzu- 5 років тому +4

    I can't find a single company that will fix my PS4s.

    • @hottyboyrepo911
      @hottyboyrepo911 5 років тому

      How about you go to the sony website and pay $150 to have it fixed

    • @Sun-Tzu-
      @Sun-Tzu- 5 років тому

      @@hottyboyrepo911 I've had it for too long, they only fix it within the first year, and they pretty much just send you another one. I ended up just buying another one.

    • @hottyboyrepo911
      @hottyboyrepo911 5 років тому +1

      @@Sun-Tzu- I sent mine to have it fixed but it did cost $150.00 Cuz it was out of warranty but yeah mines a simple fix

  • @baderlionheart
    @baderlionheart 7 років тому +5

    Hi,
    I have a problem with my PS4. I searched my issue but never found anything similar.
    I bought my PS4 2 months after it launched.
    It was running smoothly until very recently. It started it kick me out of my games, not any game, games with high computing powers (that's what I noticed) such as MGSV, Mass Effect, The last of us, and Bllodborne.
    some other games, I play them for hours and it never kicked me out once.
    I cleaned it many times, and opened it and cleaned the heat sink without any improvements.
    any advice on this?

  • @shuttlecommander
    @shuttlecommander 3 роки тому +1

    Geez I never had this many issues with a console before. My PS3 worked flawlessly.

  • @alijaffarshah4542
    @alijaffarshah4542 5 років тому +3

    Guys can someone help. My ps4 pro was recently cleaned but when the fan get louder its starts to make this crackling sound. I'm scared

  • @terrylee2524
    @terrylee2524 4 роки тому +3

    I've had my PS4 for over 6 years I clean it once a month. Never had any problems.
    Only thing I hate with this old model its very loud whatever game I choose to play.

  • @lloydisaacs415
    @lloydisaacs415 4 роки тому

    This guy knows he's stuff im English and I sometimes can't understand fully what he talking about not saying a about the guy he's work is top class im just trying to find out what i can do thanks for your help.

  • @andres8213
    @andres8213 4 роки тому +9

    Me watching him say "blinking blue light" from start to the end. *in mind* I have no chance 😭 time to get a new playstation 😭😭

    • @mzkeia2u
      @mzkeia2u 4 роки тому

      That part

    • @lanalyamin
      @lanalyamin 4 роки тому +1

      My ps4 blinks White 😔😔😔

  • @GhostVanguard
    @GhostVanguard 7 років тому +5

    What about your controller randomly cutting out and requiring a restart to get it to connect again?
    Usual scenario: I pause and have to go do something. Controller cuts out, I come back and press ps4 button but controller doesn't cut back on. The only way I can get it to reconnect is by powering off the console all the way. Controller reset doesn't work, connecting with usb wire doesn't work and using two other working controllers (one just purchased two weeks ago) doesn't work. The only info I can find online is it may be the Bluetooth antenna. Could you help a brotha out?

    • @farmdays1939
      @farmdays1939 7 років тому +1

      charge it and keep it plug in

    • @patrickmilesquintana21
      @patrickmilesquintana21 6 років тому +1

      Same problem, thought i was the only one. Tried with multiple controllers but doesen’t work

  • @rolandobendeck5998
    @rolandobendeck5998 4 роки тому +1

    I have a problem with my PS4 in which the controller suddenly shuts off and the screen just keeps going.

    • @goldplex
      @goldplex 4 роки тому

      same have u fixed it and if so how

  • @jarrod2x892
    @jarrod2x892 5 років тому +5

    My ps4 act up every time I try to turn it on thank you

  • @oneshotbwurii7355
    @oneshotbwurii7355 7 років тому +7

    Too bad there is no solution for the L3 sprint

    • @glory3767
      @glory3767 6 років тому

      Nathan Robinson I’ve fixed it before I just don’t remember how exactly

    • @daniel_960_
      @daniel_960_ 6 років тому

      There is. It’s pretty simple, just open up controller and put something under the button. Just search on UA-cam for a video showing it.

    • @justinneill3261
      @justinneill3261 6 років тому

      All i did was take my controller and and sprayed wd40 in the joystick let it dry and haven't had a problem since

    • @toastbuster9050
      @toastbuster9050 6 років тому

      Take it apart and spray Electric dialect down there. Wd40 works but is hard on plastic.

  • @Scrapla1
    @Scrapla1 5 років тому

    Had a roller fall off its track and fixed it easily after watching your video.

    • @darkskin8192
      @darkskin8192 5 років тому

      Sam Scrapla what screwdriver do u u we to take it apart lt look like a foreign screw

  • @gabrieltavares9741
    @gabrieltavares9741 7 років тому +4

    My PS4 slim turns off when I'm playing injustice 2, in others games it runs just fine, what should I do ? Sorry for the English, im brasilian.

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  7 років тому +4

      Unfortunately there's just no way for me to know what's wrong with it without being able to test it.

    • @paulwittek2660
      @paulwittek2660 7 років тому +2

      That sounds like an overheating issue. Injustice 2 is known for making the PS4 run hot.

    • @joeldelpaso4365
      @joeldelpaso4365 6 років тому +1

      gabriel tavares USE MR FREEZE AS AVATAR THEN TAKE A POTION AND 3 ELIXIRS THAT SHOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM LMAO : )

  • @ekarilil
    @ekarilil 7 років тому +5

    Can you please make a video explaining how to reach and clean the heat sink?

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  7 років тому +5

      Sure...I do have teardowns on every console that will show that info.

    • @randallrosenberg4964
      @randallrosenberg4964 7 років тому

      TronicsFix , I have had my ps4 system since release. All of the sudden neither of my USB ports are working AND my storage is disappearing. (Max storage dropped to 360gb after deleting some data) I tested the USB with a brand new controller and got nothing. I tried resetting to default and now I'm stuck because it wants the controller plugged in and the PS button pushed to move forward. Is this a motherboard fix? Or is there a way to bypass this? I have a keyboard that for some reason did work before I reset to default.

  • @VHVDRAGON
    @VHVDRAGON 5 років тому +1

    Love your videos, full of great info!

  • @bennyyazzie3557
    @bennyyazzie3557 7 років тому +8

    I have a question? my ps4 has a problem of it always disconnecting the controllers.

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  7 років тому +4

      From any distance?

    • @bennyyazzie3557
      @bennyyazzie3557 7 років тому

      TronicsFix Yeah From any distance, I would usually play games for about an hour and it would disconnect or it would move the character around constantly without me holding the controller I also thought it was the controllers but I got a new one and its still doing the same thing on that new controller

    • @Def-five
      @Def-five 7 років тому

      Benny Yazzie i have the same problem i need HELP

    • @yedidmendoza3886
      @yedidmendoza3886 7 років тому

      My ps4 does the same character just starts walking and control powers off and won't connect I have to restart all over making me lose all my progress due to non save

    • @shneakyclips7823
      @shneakyclips7823 7 років тому

      That's also a problem with my Xbox 360

  • @tayxwrld4031
    @tayxwrld4031 5 років тому +7

    Can you fix my PS4 if I ship it to you

  • @breezzey5853
    @breezzey5853 4 роки тому

    Love your vids by the way

  • @dynamicdarry
    @dynamicdarry 7 років тому +4

    can you do one of these videos for the psvr

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  7 років тому +2

      Maybe...thanks for the idea.