How Cummins Nearly Won Indy 500 With A Truck Engine
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00:00 Intro
00:44 Head of Cummins
01:48 Reason for racing
02:37 1930s Indy 500 attempts
03:38 1950 Indy 500 Green Hornet
04:46 Building a weapon
05:42 Clever chassis design
06:21 Indy 500 engine specs
07:30 Tremendous success
08:29 The engine failure
09:20 Right time to end
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I remember when the Audi TDI went to Lemans, everyone laughed. When they got the podium, everyone cried.
AUDI do build Powerful Engines . Always have from the Auto Union days .
I miss my old 87 audi 5000 quattro with the inline 5 cylinder. Got hit by a drunk frat boy and was totalled. Did so much dumb stuff in that car on local dirt roads, and even some forestry service trails 😂
@Bill M man that sucks, that car sounds awesome
Le Mans
@@fordf-25056th 5th 8th
You've outdone yourself, VisioRacer! I'm an ex-Cummins employee, and you hit all the historical high spots. When I started at Cummins in 1990 the 1952 car was still on display at corporate headquarters, they were that proud of it. The effort that Cummins put forth to build a car that would allow its heavy diesel to be competitive influenced Indy car design until the end of the roadster era.
The only story that surpasses Cummins 1952 effort with the diesel taking pole position is Penske's 1994 effort with the pushrod Ilmor 500i engine that won the race. Both were effectively banned by rules changes for the next year.
Ooooo. I worked on a couple Cummins at my last job. Mostly QSB4.5 and QSF2.3 or whatever the F series literage was. I loved the 4B but the F was a bit of a turd. Good motor mostly but it was picky about fuel and we clogged the injectors feeding it Jet fuel when the B series didn't care at all. And it took the OEM for the equipment a couple months to get injectors for the F motors. But they were both great to work on. Just overall designed well.
Do you mind if I ask what you worked on at Cummins?
@@philtheairplanemechanic Advanced technology V12 28-liter tank engine. And then a turbocharged lean-burn natural gas engine derived from the C-series.
It is a story of amazing creativity . I have a V 504 in my garage. Not really sure where it's going. I would love to put it into a built car or small truck for towing a trailer as a car or as a light truck with four wheel drive. Not as a toy but for practical use.
@@andyharman3022 the hot stuff! I love the Abrams turbine, but a diesel power train is so much more efficient on an armoured vehicle.
Wow I had no idea Cummins had been racing at Indianapolis with a diesel! Thanks for bringing this story to us!
Never heard about this mad endeavour. Always thought Audi TDI in LeMan was the first and only serious diesel race cars ever.
We always learn something on this channel...
Anyway, the fact that the car still runs today and sounds totally not like a sluggish diesel is another win for Cummins.
SEAT, the Spanish brand of the VW group, won the German Touring Championship with a Leon TDI a few years ago.
I've seen the 1950 car in the flesh at the Indianapolis museum. Neat!
The 1952 car sounds a lot like a modern Cummins diesel, the sort of engine you would find in a big pickup. These videos always have amazing soundtracks. 😍
I would love to see a video on Isuzu Diesels someday. They (at least ones from the 70’s-00’s) are nearly indestructible, and being so durable are highly tunable, especially with forced induction. They will run until the sun runs out of hydrogen, especially with double row timing chains, iron heads, cylinder sleeves and inline Bosch mechanical injection pumps.
I think you'd like to watch isuzu diesel drag races in thailand... One of them can reach 1000 HP from a 4 banger diesel... Just search it in youtube
Thats one realy good idea
Thoose type vids is what i like in this chanel
All Isuzu engines are not indestructibles. Ask Opel, Honda or Renault
@@briegleruyet4139you donkey, you're specifically ignoring he is specifically talking about the diesels
Too bad they could never properly assemble an SUV that didn't break or rust into oblivion
VisioRacer, you never fail to come up with the goods. Tremendous!
Very interesting video! Thanks for the information and the old film clips. Fascinating that the diesel guys get far more HP today. I like that this project was kept quiet to prevent last minute rule changes.
After the race, they hooked up the trailer, and the Cummins race car towed the tools & spare tires home.
hahaha wow!
And probably towed a few other cars home too
Lol...the sound of that thing was making my iPad vibrate - no lie! What a beautiful sound too, that entire car was beautiful. I love the long hood and the way the grille looked!
Very interesting. It is impressive that Cummins is responsible for Indy cars having independent suspension and a few other innovations!
Gotta be the best sounding Diesel I’ve ever heard.
Thank you for teaching me this lesson in automotive history :)!
I'm an engine technology geek too and you're one of the only car channels I've watched most videos of. Thanks a lot for the interesting work!
Thanks!
Pretty keen Cummins fan myself. For such a long time the fueling was the same principle that seems to work really effectively. That dependable workable system is where the greatness began.
Hi, Always nice videos. and well illustrated with very interesting period documents. Always good job👍🏻
As often with race cars, they are 'rolling laboratories' for trying innovations considered or actually later used in production vehicles. For Cummins, they were based in Indiana, the Indy 500 was as now one of the biggest motor vehicle races in the world, they wanted to promote their diesel engines for use in trucks and it was successful even if failed to finish. As this video also noted, it encouraged the concept of flat or pancake diesel engines in certain applications as well as 'flat' style engines in race cars at Indy and other forms of oval racing as well as 'roadster' drive train and body designs until rear engine designs in the early to mid-1960's.
Great video, didn't know that Cummins raced with a diesel engine. Audi always said that they were the first but now I'll know. 🙂
1st at Le Mans......
I’ve always loved your old list formats but this documentary style is excellent.
Great job on this video. You’re the best!
Very interesting video with lots of technical details. Thank you !
These cummins engines seem like a cool idea hopefully they end up with a good following
I hope someday they produce a 5.9 liter... I have a feeling it will be a hit!
@@atomicwedgie8176
Maybe a 10.9 as well....
Hopefully they'll one day produce a 14 liter inline 6😊
Hell yeah, finally!
These vehicles are irreplaceable, priceless antiques. You're never going to hear their engines in anger.
Do a search on u tube for 1952 Indy 500 race
@@waynescott1338 Yeah I know, I saw every single film with this car, problem is, it’s an old, optical recording, it’s very distorted... But yeah, You can clearly hear this beast revving over 4000 rpm. Sadly, no turbo noises :(
Another excellent video VisioRacer👍
Well now that's a great idea for a movie!
Great info thanks for the video
Damn it's been a while since I have seen a video from you suggested on my playlist - hope you're doing well mate!
When you know the story
But you wanna hear it from Visioracer anyways.
Luv my Cummins
Gay
Seen that crazy Patrol Cummins the Skid Factory made? It's insane.
my cat loves u too! 🐱♥️♥️♥️
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Lol it suck....gasoline engine for win:)
"If you learned something, it's never a loss."
nice little video 👍
Gran trabajo, 👌👌👌 excelente, como siempre. Un saludo desde Madrid, España.
Fantastic content.
Another great story thanks
Gud vid 😍 as always sir 😉.
The heads and Ego's of every Tow mirror out Cummins boi just multiplied 100x
One look at pikes peak, shows all the crazy stuff in motorsports
7:30 Lordy, the snarl of a big straight six! Nothin' like it. Nothin'.
I bet you cummins could have actually won if they figured out a good way to get the turbo up higher without damageing the aerodynamic profile of the car.
Front suspension is independent but rear is beam axle.
sounds amazing even for a diesel
Very nice good job
Great story.
There's literally an Audi commerical, I think for Quattro but it may be for their TDI's, that is based around Gandhi's quote "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
2:18 I thought the majority of Hall Scott high horsepower truck engines were Propane or Natural Gas powered engines just like the one picture here. My friends father drove one for years hauling produce in California, he said it was the king of the road for a long time back than
The car Gran Turismo was too scared to diss
Well why there is not more diesel race cars?
Its really not that hard build for example GT3 one,V6 4.0L Twin turbo Diesel 600Hp/800Nm!
3:02 Wait Supercharger on diesel engine?That is something new to me:)
Fantastic
id love if you made a video on a brazilian truck, fnm or as its called in brazil, fenemê
I like how I'm not seeing clouds of bro smoke from this engine
I don't understand why people wouldn't believe diesel engines would be good for endurance racing.
There are usually horsepower limits which diesel engines can reach.
Sure they may be heavier, but they're also more fuel efficient so you don't have to stop for fuel so much, or you can offset the weight with less fuel.
They also have much flatter power curves so you can stay in max power for much longer, not to mention possibly hit peak power earlier and then just stay there.
Then there's the reliability.
Guess which vehicle drives for hours and hours on the road. A truck.
this should be made into movie
I’m surprised they did come back the next year and win but I’m sure all the gasoline guys protested it right out of the competition the one thing people don’t know is how a diesel is designed to run full tilt all day and all night, outpacing gas engines with mileage and reliability 🇺🇸🐾✌️
Honorable mention is the Peugeot 908 that raced at Le Mans as well and kicked Audi's ass in the 2010 event
I like how the No 28 Cummings Diesel Special looks like a hotdog on wheels 🌭
Yeahp, I'm a Diesel fan as well due to their high torque available at low revs...!!!
Then you should be interested in a steam engine. Doesn't matter if the torque is at high or low revs, what matters is for how broad of an rev range it can maintain it. The M1 Abrams has a engine with about 350 nm of torque, but it does it at 30,000 RPM.
That car is beautiful
You are still surprising me.
at 2:17 > Imagine when they started growing .. .
Funnily enough my surname is Cummins and I go like a clapper 😂😂😂
"How Cummins Diesel Won The Indianapolis 500" it didnt,
"How Cummins Diesel was the fastest on The Indianapolis 500" is the correct one
It won/achieved, what was set as a goal. It was not meant as a racing victory. I thought it would spark some questions to convince viewers to click on the video.
@VisioRacer it achieved his goals and got new valuable information . But no indianapolis 500. Like you say the car didn't finish. And never raced again. So until today no diésel has ever won indy 500. But well you can make a video of othe car that almost won indy 500. STP Turbocar, a bearing failed 4 laps before the ending
@@lavawolf666 Yes, I could
Now that's cool!!
Wow! we should make Cummins motorcycles too!!
🐱👍🏿
You would essentially never have to use the throttle to pull away from a spot. Fuel mileage could be astronomical or abyssmal for a motorcycle. The rear tire would be chewed up quite often with all that torque when applied
But the added weight would be horrendous and the vibrations would shake your bones(even rubber mounted)
If Cummins made a small displacement diesel engine, that woudl be interesting with a turbo or two slapped on top
@@someguy95202 liter triple cylinder 2 stroke cummins supercharged dieselbusa
🐱👍🏿
@@fidelcatsro6948 holy shit
That sounds awsome
Put that thing in a goldwing or a lightweight naked bike and boom
@@someguy9520 exhaust goes like clunka clunka vroom vroom..
Torque is the only force. Large slow turning motors can acheive the same thing as a small displacement engine wound out to the nines. Torque is manipulated by the transmission. I would rather have a 11-13L diesel in my pickup than a 3.5L or 6.7L. It would litterally idle down the highway. And last 1.5 million miles
LOL.... HP is what you are using son.
@lookwhatyoudid5907 hp is just and equation for work over time. It doesn't not exist with out torque and rpm. Torque is the only force at play.
A very good job, spoiled by a bad title.
I'm sitting here wondering how much a me Frank costs? If you have to ask it's not a car you can afford to run! Beautiful looking car, very sixties futuristic. 🔥😈🔥
Sweet😊
VisioRacer coming clutch with the yummy brain food... Skrrt skrrt bussin respectfully or whatever Zoomer lingo is being used these days 😜
3:42
I wonder should they have visited Germany to get some ideas on diesel engines that might have improved their racing engines? Just a thought.
First car to do the 500 miles on one tank of fuel
Miller's, aside, I thought all American racing engines were from Trucks, Oilers or otherwise?
Diesel ❤️
OK... This was a technical achievement for Cummins, bit it did NOT "nearly win" Indy. If it had completed the 500 miles, the best the car would have done was probably third, and that's assuming the tires didn't come apart in a turn. Again, interesting...but you didn't have to overstate the case.
cummins was a nut
Cummins😊
It would be more accurate to call the engine a highly developed example.
it ain't no gansta
like a front midship
rear tractioned
I6 turbo diesel injected.
wannit ganstier?
slant it 85°,
drive it by the left,
and paint it like the Sun
Hot dog paint scheme vroom vroom vroom
👍😎👍
The title is click bait!! Cummins never won the Indy 500.
I see that very few see the victory of reaching their goal of the increase in sales and reputation.
Diesel is so much better to drive than petrol. All that torque combined with an auto box is the ultimate lazy drivers car.
Torque wins races
Nope, power, airodynamics and handling wins races. Torque and RPM doesn't matter unless you got enough of both.
It must be noted.. a 2 stroke diesel made by either DETROIT DIESEL or Catapiller is much better at developing power..
6 in a row ready to tow
8 in a vee well you can imagine
✋🏼🇦🇺👍🏼
It didn’t win the race, just the pole.
Great observation...
They did win the sales and reputation they sought for
I remember the days when diversity wasn't so controversial
6=8
are there no AMERICAN narrators?
so it didn't win the indy 500.
Repeat after me,
Cummins
Cummings
Cummins
See the Difference?¿?
this Documentary makes is look as if an American had invented the Diesel Engine - we need to mention here that it was RUDOLPH DIESEL, a German Engineer and Inventor!
Tough engines
These days zero diversiity. Boring.