How Cummins Nearly Won Indy 500 With A Truck Engine

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    00:00 Intro
    00:44 Head of Cummins
    01:48 Reason for racing
    02:37 1930s Indy 500 attempts
    03:38 1950 Indy 500 Green Hornet
    04:46 Building a weapon
    05:42 Clever chassis design
    06:21 Indy 500 engine specs
    07:30 Tremendous success
    08:29 The engine failure
    09:20 Right time to end
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    This video is fair use under U.S. copyright law because it is transformative in nature, uses no more of the original than necessary and has no adverse effect on the market for the original work.
    - Credits -
    “Cummins - History of Innovation - Indianapolis 500” by CumminsCareers
    • Cummins - History of I...
    “Le Mans - Diesel War - Tribute” by RaceComp
    • Le Mans - Diesel War -...
    “All Audi R10 vs Peugeot 908 Battles | LMP1 2007 - 2008” by Motor Racing Clips
    • All Audi R10 vs Peugeo...
    “Cummins 1952 Diesel Special Indy 500 COLD START” by MrPizzaman09
    • Cummins 1952 Diesel Sp...
    “Diesel Race Car. Diesel Indy Car 1952. Cummins Diesel.” by Moviecraft Inc.
    • Diesel Race Car. Diese...
    “Cummins History: 1935 Diesel Passenger Car” by Cummins
    • Cummins History: 1935 ...
    “1950 Peterbilt with 275 Cummins” by Dan thomas
    • 1950 Peterbilt with 27...
    “Clessie's Diesel-Powered 'Stunts' at the Indianapolis 500 | Clessie Cummins: Hoosier Inventor | WTIU” by WTIU & WFIU - Indiana Public Media
    • Clessie's Diesel-Power...
    “Cummins History: 1931 Coast-to-Coast with Clessie Cummins” by CumminsEngines
    • Cummins History: 1931...
    “Cummins - History of Innovation - Indianapolis 500” by CumminsCareers
    • Cummins - History of I...
    “Cummins Indy 28” by Tony Shaull
    • Cummins Indy 28
    “Cummins Diesel Engine Sets Lap Record at 1952 Indy 500” by TodaysTrucking
    • Cummins Diesel Engine ...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 174

  • @JohnnyAFG81
    @JohnnyAFG81 Рік тому +248

    I remember when the Audi TDI went to Lemans, everyone laughed. When they got the podium, everyone cried.

    • @johncunningham4820
      @johncunningham4820 Рік тому +17

      AUDI do build Powerful Engines . Always have from the Auto Union days .

    • @UmmmmmmmWhat
      @UmmmmmmmWhat Рік тому +15

      I miss my old 87 audi 5000 quattro with the inline 5 cylinder. Got hit by a drunk frat boy and was totalled. Did so much dumb stuff in that car on local dirt roads, and even some forestry service trails 😂

    • @fordf-2505
      @fordf-2505 Рік тому +6

      ​@Bill M man that sucks, that car sounds awesome

    • @briegleruyet4139
      @briegleruyet4139 Рік тому +1

      Le Mans

    • @frankivey6570
      @frankivey6570 Рік тому

      ​@@fordf-25056th 5th 8th

  • @andyharman3022
    @andyharman3022 Рік тому +120

    You've outdone yourself, VisioRacer! I'm an ex-Cummins employee, and you hit all the historical high spots. When I started at Cummins in 1990 the 1952 car was still on display at corporate headquarters, they were that proud of it. The effort that Cummins put forth to build a car that would allow its heavy diesel to be competitive influenced Indy car design until the end of the roadster era.
    The only story that surpasses Cummins 1952 effort with the diesel taking pole position is Penske's 1994 effort with the pushrod Ilmor 500i engine that won the race. Both were effectively banned by rules changes for the next year.

    • @philtheairplanemechanic
      @philtheairplanemechanic Рік тому +2

      Ooooo. I worked on a couple Cummins at my last job. Mostly QSB4.5 and QSF2.3 or whatever the F series literage was. I loved the 4B but the F was a bit of a turd. Good motor mostly but it was picky about fuel and we clogged the injectors feeding it Jet fuel when the B series didn't care at all. And it took the OEM for the equipment a couple months to get injectors for the F motors. But they were both great to work on. Just overall designed well.

    • @philtheairplanemechanic
      @philtheairplanemechanic Рік тому +2

      Do you mind if I ask what you worked on at Cummins?

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 Рік тому +4

      @@philtheairplanemechanic Advanced technology V12 28-liter tank engine. And then a turbocharged lean-burn natural gas engine derived from the C-series.

    • @jackrichards1863
      @jackrichards1863 Рік тому +1

      It is a story of amazing creativity . I have a V 504 in my garage. Not really sure where it's going. I would love to put it into a built car or small truck for towing a trailer as a car or as a light truck with four wheel drive. Not as a toy but for practical use.

    • @tojiroh
      @tojiroh Рік тому +1

      @@andyharman3022 the hot stuff! I love the Abrams turbine, but a diesel power train is so much more efficient on an armoured vehicle.

  • @epicseadragon1692
    @epicseadragon1692 Рік тому +26

    Wow I had no idea Cummins had been racing at Indianapolis with a diesel! Thanks for bringing this story to us!

  • @Damien.D
    @Damien.D Рік тому +17

    Never heard about this mad endeavour. Always thought Audi TDI in LeMan was the first and only serious diesel race cars ever.
    We always learn something on this channel...
    Anyway, the fact that the car still runs today and sounds totally not like a sluggish diesel is another win for Cummins.

    • @alexisg311
      @alexisg311 Рік тому

      SEAT, the Spanish brand of the VW group, won the German Touring Championship with a Leon TDI a few years ago.

  • @marsgal42
    @marsgal42 Рік тому +14

    I've seen the 1950 car in the flesh at the Indianapolis museum. Neat!
    The 1952 car sounds a lot like a modern Cummins diesel, the sort of engine you would find in a big pickup. These videos always have amazing soundtracks. 😍

  • @stoneylonesome4062
    @stoneylonesome4062 Рік тому +58

    I would love to see a video on Isuzu Diesels someday. They (at least ones from the 70’s-00’s) are nearly indestructible, and being so durable are highly tunable, especially with forced induction. They will run until the sun runs out of hydrogen, especially with double row timing chains, iron heads, cylinder sleeves and inline Bosch mechanical injection pumps.

    • @muhammadabrooramrullah996
      @muhammadabrooramrullah996 Рік тому +12

      I think you'd like to watch isuzu diesel drag races in thailand... One of them can reach 1000 HP from a 4 banger diesel... Just search it in youtube

    • @themistsouhlarakis9415
      @themistsouhlarakis9415 Рік тому +3

      Thats one realy good idea
      Thoose type vids is what i like in this chanel

    • @briegleruyet4139
      @briegleruyet4139 Рік тому +2

      All Isuzu engines are not indestructibles. Ask Opel, Honda or Renault

    • @danielescobar7618
      @danielescobar7618 Рік тому

      ​@@briegleruyet4139you donkey, you're specifically ignoring he is specifically talking about the diesels

    • @CaptHollister
      @CaptHollister Рік тому +5

      Too bad they could never properly assemble an SUV that didn't break or rust into oblivion

  • @Hydrogenblonde
    @Hydrogenblonde Рік тому +11

    VisioRacer, you never fail to come up with the goods. Tremendous!

  • @cujet
    @cujet Рік тому +6

    Very interesting video! Thanks for the information and the old film clips. Fascinating that the diesel guys get far more HP today. I like that this project was kept quiet to prevent last minute rule changes.

  • @Iowa599
    @Iowa599 Рік тому +10

    After the race, they hooked up the trailer, and the Cummins race car towed the tools & spare tires home.

  • @mikejohnson5900
    @mikejohnson5900 Рік тому +1

    Lol...the sound of that thing was making my iPad vibrate - no lie! What a beautiful sound too, that entire car was beautiful. I love the long hood and the way the grille looked!

  • @Brian-uy2tj
    @Brian-uy2tj Рік тому +3

    Very interesting. It is impressive that Cummins is responsible for Indy cars having independent suspension and a few other innovations!

  • @ExBenzi2
    @ExBenzi2 Рік тому +3

    Gotta be the best sounding Diesel I’ve ever heard.
    Thank you for teaching me this lesson in automotive history :)!

  • @lqr824
    @lqr824 Рік тому +8

    I'm an engine technology geek too and you're one of the only car channels I've watched most videos of. Thanks a lot for the interesting work!

  • @jackrichards1863
    @jackrichards1863 Рік тому +1

    Pretty keen Cummins fan myself. For such a long time the fueling was the same principle that seems to work really effectively. That dependable workable system is where the greatness began.

  • @ThePontiacgto65
    @ThePontiacgto65 Рік тому +4

    Hi, Always nice videos. and well illustrated with very interesting period documents. Always good job👍🏻

  • @leonb2637
    @leonb2637 Рік тому +2

    As often with race cars, they are 'rolling laboratories' for trying innovations considered or actually later used in production vehicles. For Cummins, they were based in Indiana, the Indy 500 was as now one of the biggest motor vehicle races in the world, they wanted to promote their diesel engines for use in trucks and it was successful even if failed to finish. As this video also noted, it encouraged the concept of flat or pancake diesel engines in certain applications as well as 'flat' style engines in race cars at Indy and other forms of oval racing as well as 'roadster' drive train and body designs until rear engine designs in the early to mid-1960's.

  • @Tom-wl9sx
    @Tom-wl9sx Рік тому +5

    Great video, didn't know that Cummins raced with a diesel engine. Audi always said that they were the first but now I'll know. 🙂

  • @FlatlanderGear
    @FlatlanderGear Рік тому +2

    I’ve always loved your old list formats but this documentary style is excellent.

  • @Commander-McBragg
    @Commander-McBragg Рік тому +4

    Great job on this video. You’re the best!

  • @cyrildrewery6654
    @cyrildrewery6654 Рік тому +2

    Very interesting video with lots of technical details. Thank you !

  • @JimmyCasket02
    @JimmyCasket02 Рік тому +10

    These cummins engines seem like a cool idea hopefully they end up with a good following

    • @atomicwedgie8176
      @atomicwedgie8176 Рік тому +2

      I hope someday they produce a 5.9 liter... I have a feeling it will be a hit!

    • @JohnSmith-yv6eq
      @JohnSmith-yv6eq Рік тому +1

      @@atomicwedgie8176
      Maybe a 10.9 as well....

    • @bmad1386
      @bmad1386 Рік тому

      Hopefully they'll one day produce a 14 liter inline 6😊

  • @vapno92
    @vapno92 Рік тому +5

    Hell yeah, finally!

    • @marsgal42
      @marsgal42 Рік тому

      These vehicles are irreplaceable, priceless antiques. You're never going to hear their engines in anger.

    • @waynescott1338
      @waynescott1338 Рік тому

      Do a search on u tube for 1952 Indy 500 race

    • @vapno92
      @vapno92 Рік тому

      @@waynescott1338 Yeah I know, I saw every single film with this car, problem is, it’s an old, optical recording, it’s very distorted... But yeah, You can clearly hear this beast revving over 4000 rpm. Sadly, no turbo noises :(

  • @MachineintheMonkey
    @MachineintheMonkey Рік тому +1

    Another excellent video VisioRacer👍

  • @johnsheetz6639
    @johnsheetz6639 Рік тому +2

    Well now that's a great idea for a movie!

  • @litefoot900
    @litefoot900 Рік тому +1

    Great info thanks for the video

  • @SGR_Blackout
    @SGR_Blackout Рік тому +1

    Damn it's been a while since I have seen a video from you suggested on my playlist - hope you're doing well mate!

  • @fastinradfordable
    @fastinradfordable Рік тому +2

    When you know the story
    But you wanna hear it from Visioracer anyways.

  • @Maj_Kasul
    @Maj_Kasul Рік тому +8

    Luv my Cummins

    • @dyoung1998
      @dyoung1998 Рік тому

      Gay

    • @justcruise241
      @justcruise241 Рік тому

      Seen that crazy Patrol Cummins the Skid Factory made? It's insane.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 Рік тому +1

      my cat loves u too! 🐱♥️♥️♥️

    • @Xayuap
      @Xayuap Рік тому

      ew

    • @joe125ful
      @joe125ful Рік тому

      Lol it suck....gasoline engine for win:)

  • @WvlfDarkfire
    @WvlfDarkfire Рік тому +1

    "If you learned something, it's never a loss."

  • @stevenkerry3101
    @stevenkerry3101 Рік тому +2

    nice little video 👍

  • @alexisg311
    @alexisg311 Рік тому +1

    Gran trabajo, 👌👌👌 excelente, como siempre. Un saludo desde Madrid, España.

  • @TundeEszlari
    @TundeEszlari Рік тому +2

    Fantastic content.

  • @gmarshall1026
    @gmarshall1026 Рік тому +1

    Another great story thanks

  • @mcjdubpower
    @mcjdubpower Рік тому +1

    Gud vid 😍 as always sir 😉.

  • @johncholmes643
    @johncholmes643 Рік тому

    The heads and Ego's of every Tow mirror out Cummins boi just multiplied 100x

  • @NicholasMavrikBrandt
    @NicholasMavrikBrandt Рік тому +1

    One look at pikes peak, shows all the crazy stuff in motorsports

  • @mescko
    @mescko 2 місяці тому

    7:30 Lordy, the snarl of a big straight six! Nothin' like it. Nothin'.

  • @KristofferEk
    @KristofferEk Рік тому +3

    I bet you cummins could have actually won if they figured out a good way to get the turbo up higher without damageing the aerodynamic profile of the car.

  • @jedgarsquink
    @jedgarsquink Рік тому +1

    Front suspension is independent but rear is beam axle.

  • @geraldmanda5573
    @geraldmanda5573 Рік тому +2

    sounds amazing even for a diesel

  • @robertpierce1981
    @robertpierce1981 Рік тому +2

    Very nice good job

  • @76629online
    @76629online Рік тому +3

    Great story.

  • @connarcomstock161
    @connarcomstock161 11 місяців тому

    There's literally an Audi commerical, I think for Quattro but it may be for their TDI's, that is based around Gandhi's quote "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

  • @K-Effect
    @K-Effect 9 місяців тому

    2:18 I thought the majority of Hall Scott high horsepower truck engines were Propane or Natural Gas powered engines just like the one picture here. My friends father drove one for years hauling produce in California, he said it was the king of the road for a long time back than

  • @NLynchOEcake
    @NLynchOEcake Рік тому

    The car Gran Turismo was too scared to diss

  • @joe125ful
    @joe125ful Рік тому +1

    Well why there is not more diesel race cars?
    Its really not that hard build for example GT3 one,V6 4.0L Twin turbo Diesel 600Hp/800Nm!
    3:02 Wait Supercharger on diesel engine?That is something new to me:)

  • @rogerdc7279
    @rogerdc7279 Рік тому

    Fantastic

  • @kaiosobreira
    @kaiosobreira Рік тому +2

    id love if you made a video on a brazilian truck, fnm or as its called in brazil, fenemê

  • @fuse8052
    @fuse8052 Рік тому

    I like how I'm not seeing clouds of bro smoke from this engine

  • @Rose_Butterfly98
    @Rose_Butterfly98 Рік тому

    I don't understand why people wouldn't believe diesel engines would be good for endurance racing.
    There are usually horsepower limits which diesel engines can reach.
    Sure they may be heavier, but they're also more fuel efficient so you don't have to stop for fuel so much, or you can offset the weight with less fuel.
    They also have much flatter power curves so you can stay in max power for much longer, not to mention possibly hit peak power earlier and then just stay there.
    Then there's the reliability.
    Guess which vehicle drives for hours and hours on the road. A truck.

  • @rikukerola3844
    @rikukerola3844 6 місяців тому

    this should be made into movie

  • @deborahchesser7375
    @deborahchesser7375 Рік тому

    I’m surprised they did come back the next year and win but I’m sure all the gasoline guys protested it right out of the competition the one thing people don’t know is how a diesel is designed to run full tilt all day and all night, outpacing gas engines with mileage and reliability 🇺🇸🐾✌️

  • @TheSilverShadow17
    @TheSilverShadow17 Рік тому

    Honorable mention is the Peugeot 908 that raced at Le Mans as well and kicked Audi's ass in the 2010 event

  • @CyanRooper
    @CyanRooper Рік тому

    I like how the No 28 Cummings Diesel Special looks like a hotdog on wheels 🌭

  • @lmwlmw4468
    @lmwlmw4468 Рік тому +1

    Yeahp, I'm a Diesel fan as well due to their high torque available at low revs...!!!

    • @TheEsseboy
      @TheEsseboy Рік тому

      Then you should be interested in a steam engine. Doesn't matter if the torque is at high or low revs, what matters is for how broad of an rev range it can maintain it. The M1 Abrams has a engine with about 350 nm of torque, but it does it at 30,000 RPM.

  • @ksmith1298
    @ksmith1298 Рік тому

    That car is beautiful

  • @paulfisker
    @paulfisker Рік тому +1

    You are still surprising me.

  • @shawnfoxfirth9684
    @shawnfoxfirth9684 Рік тому

    at 2:17 > Imagine when they started growing .. .

  • @neddy1287
    @neddy1287 Рік тому

    Funnily enough my surname is Cummins and I go like a clapper 😂😂😂

  • @lavawolf666
    @lavawolf666 Рік тому +1

    "How Cummins Diesel Won The Indianapolis 500" it didnt,
    "How Cummins Diesel was the fastest on The Indianapolis 500" is the correct one

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  Рік тому

      It won/achieved, what was set as a goal. It was not meant as a racing victory. I thought it would spark some questions to convince viewers to click on the video.

    • @lavawolf666
      @lavawolf666 Рік тому +1

      @VisioRacer it achieved his goals and got new valuable information . But no indianapolis 500. Like you say the car didn't finish. And never raced again. So until today no diésel has ever won indy 500. But well you can make a video of othe car that almost won indy 500. STP Turbocar, a bearing failed 4 laps before the ending

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  Рік тому

      @@lavawolf666 Yes, I could

  • @warrenfloyd1484
    @warrenfloyd1484 Рік тому

    Now that's cool!!

  • @fidelcatsro6948
    @fidelcatsro6948 Рік тому +1

    Wow! we should make Cummins motorcycles too!!
    🐱👍🏿

    • @someguy9520
      @someguy9520 Рік тому +1

      You would essentially never have to use the throttle to pull away from a spot. Fuel mileage could be astronomical or abyssmal for a motorcycle. The rear tire would be chewed up quite often with all that torque when applied
      But the added weight would be horrendous and the vibrations would shake your bones(even rubber mounted)
      If Cummins made a small displacement diesel engine, that woudl be interesting with a turbo or two slapped on top

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 Рік тому

      ​​@@someguy95202 liter triple cylinder 2 stroke cummins supercharged dieselbusa
      🐱👍🏿

    • @someguy9520
      @someguy9520 Рік тому +1

      @@fidelcatsro6948 holy shit
      That sounds awsome
      Put that thing in a goldwing or a lightweight naked bike and boom

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 Рік тому

      @@someguy9520 exhaust goes like clunka clunka vroom vroom..

  • @jnk26
    @jnk26 Рік тому +1

    Torque is the only force. Large slow turning motors can acheive the same thing as a small displacement engine wound out to the nines. Torque is manipulated by the transmission. I would rather have a 11-13L diesel in my pickup than a 3.5L or 6.7L. It would litterally idle down the highway. And last 1.5 million miles

    • @Look_What_You_Did
      @Look_What_You_Did Рік тому

      LOL.... HP is what you are using son.

    • @jnk26
      @jnk26 Рік тому +2

      @lookwhatyoudid5907 hp is just and equation for work over time. It doesn't not exist with out torque and rpm. Torque is the only force at play.

  • @andreamassara590
    @andreamassara590 Рік тому +2

    A very good job, spoiled by a bad title.

  • @capt.bart.roberts4975
    @capt.bart.roberts4975 Рік тому

    I'm sitting here wondering how much a me Frank costs? If you have to ask it's not a car you can afford to run! Beautiful looking car, very sixties futuristic. 🔥😈🔥

  • @Orygunner67
    @Orygunner67 Рік тому

    Sweet😊

  • @tojiroh
    @tojiroh Рік тому

    VisioRacer coming clutch with the yummy brain food... Skrrt skrrt bussin respectfully or whatever Zoomer lingo is being used these days 😜

  • @Velocitist
    @Velocitist Рік тому

    3:42

  • @anthonyxuereb792
    @anthonyxuereb792 Рік тому

    I wonder should they have visited Germany to get some ideas on diesel engines that might have improved their racing engines? Just a thought.

  • @royaltee5896
    @royaltee5896 Рік тому

    First car to do the 500 miles on one tank of fuel

  • @stephenscholes4758
    @stephenscholes4758 Рік тому

    Miller's, aside, I thought all American racing engines were from Trucks, Oilers or otherwise?

  • @-DC-
    @-DC- Рік тому

    Diesel ❤️

  • @rustyturner431
    @rustyturner431 Рік тому

    OK... This was a technical achievement for Cummins, bit it did NOT "nearly win" Indy. If it had completed the 500 miles, the best the car would have done was probably third, and that's assuming the tires didn't come apart in a turn. Again, interesting...but you didn't have to overstate the case.

  • @technodrone313
    @technodrone313 Рік тому

    cummins was a nut

  • @dannymostarac1799
    @dannymostarac1799 Рік тому

    Cummins😊

  • @misterhipster9509
    @misterhipster9509 Рік тому

    It would be more accurate to call the engine a highly developed example.

  • @Xayuap
    @Xayuap Рік тому

    it ain't no gansta
    like a front midship
    rear tractioned
    I6 turbo diesel injected.
    wannit ganstier?
    slant it 85°,
    drive it by the left,
    and paint it like the Sun

  • @danielescobar7618
    @danielescobar7618 Рік тому

    Hot dog paint scheme vroom vroom vroom

  • @Orygunner67
    @Orygunner67 Рік тому

    👍😎👍

  • @Mbartel500
    @Mbartel500 Рік тому +2

    The title is click bait!! Cummins never won the Indy 500.

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  Рік тому

      I see that very few see the victory of reaching their goal of the increase in sales and reputation.

  • @msgretrogamer
    @msgretrogamer 11 місяців тому

    Diesel is so much better to drive than petrol. All that torque combined with an auto box is the ultimate lazy drivers car.

  • @Ninja_Revenge
    @Ninja_Revenge Рік тому

    Torque wins races

    • @TheEsseboy
      @TheEsseboy Рік тому

      Nope, power, airodynamics and handling wins races. Torque and RPM doesn't matter unless you got enough of both.

  • @thomasburke7995
    @thomasburke7995 Рік тому +1

    It must be noted.. a 2 stroke diesel made by either DETROIT DIESEL or Catapiller is much better at developing power..

  • @timothylessing4774
    @timothylessing4774 Рік тому

    6 in a row ready to tow
    8 in a vee well you can imagine

  • @aquilaaudax6033
    @aquilaaudax6033 Рік тому

    ✋🏼🇦🇺👍🏼

  • @softwave1662
    @softwave1662 Рік тому +1

    It didn’t win the race, just the pole.

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 Рік тому

      Great observation...

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  Рік тому +1

      They did win the sales and reputation they sought for

  • @m.k_dk7622
    @m.k_dk7622 Рік тому

    I remember the days when diversity wasn't so controversial

  • @timothylessing4774
    @timothylessing4774 Рік тому

    6=8

  • @tooge47
    @tooge47 Рік тому

    are there no AMERICAN narrators?

  • @sleebanger
    @sleebanger Рік тому

    so it didn't win the indy 500.

  • @timothylessing4774
    @timothylessing4774 Рік тому

    Repeat after me,
    Cummins
    Cummings
    Cummins
    See the Difference?¿?

  • @FRITZI999
    @FRITZI999 Рік тому

    this Documentary makes is look as if an American had invented the Diesel Engine - we need to mention here that it was RUDOLPH DIESEL, a German Engineer and Inventor!

  • @mojo3008
    @mojo3008 Рік тому

    Tough engines

  • @eleventy-seven
    @eleventy-seven Рік тому

    These days zero diversiity. Boring.