From two engines to six wheels: the oddities of the Indy 500

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  • Опубліковано 12 кві 2024
  • The Indianapolis Motor Speedway has always been a fertile ground for new ideas. Over decades of competition, many innovations have emerged at the Brickyard along with numerous oddities, often in attempts to gain some advantage without any theoretical basis. Employing a blend of technique and practical exploration, constructors tried a bit of everything in their designs, from cars with two engines to prototypes with the suspension of a regular car. Even without achieving significant results, these models have left their mark on the history of the 500 miles for their complete extravagance (and in some cases, lack of common sense) employed in their projects.
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    Music:
    Futureshock by @SeansSoundtracksAndGaming
    • Futureshock (HD)
    Narration by ElevenLabs:
    www.elevenlabs.io
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    Source:
    www.motorsportmemorial.org/LWF...
    www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/t...
    www.conceptcarz.com/z18216/hu...
    www.gtplanet.net/forum/thread...
    flatout.com.br/eagle-aircraft...
    www.conceptcarz.com/z20354/hu...
    www.motorsportmemorial.org/LWF...
    #INDY500 #indycar
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  • @RacingLineChannel
    @RacingLineChannel  Місяць тому +10

    CORRECTION: At 2:28 the correct text is: 'In the early 1960s, rear-engine cars began to dominate the racing world, bringing an end to the era of front-engine models.' Thanks @donwest5387 and @allareasindex7984 for notifying me!

  • @Dlweta57
    @Dlweta57 Місяць тому +12

    Landed here by accident, really enjoyed this delve into to the history of Indy cars, many thanks

  • @robertlevasseur6843
    @robertlevasseur6843 Місяць тому +9

    Indy car history is so colorful, unlike F1 which is much more evolutionary. I vividly remember the turbine powered car in the 1960s. It was crazy but effective.

    • @coldlakealta4043
      @coldlakealta4043 Місяць тому +1

      brought to us by our friend Andy Granatelli, the STP man

  • @powertothesheeple5422
    @powertothesheeple5422 Місяць тому +6

    The irony of being an aricraft engineer who designed the least aerodynamic car to ever see the brickyard 🤣🤣

  • @joest23
    @joest23 Місяць тому +8

    Fantastic video. Great photos, footage that I have never seen, and cars that I did not know about despite being a huge IndyCar fan. A+

  • @pughoneycutt1986
    @pughoneycutt1986 Місяць тому +21

    You forgot the Mickie Thompson car with the 12 inch wheels

    • @61rampy65
      @61rampy65 Місяць тому +1

      Good call. Those tires turned out to be the future of how race (and street) tires were designed.

  • @SelectCircle
    @SelectCircle 15 днів тому +1

    I'm just barely old enough to remember when Indy cars were experimental. It was a thrill to tune in to the race back then. And I was dismayed when uniformity of design was instituted. What a bore.

  • @stephenphillip5656
    @stephenphillip5656 Місяць тому +2

    And there's me thinking that the 1975 Tyrell P34 F1 car was the first one with 6 wheels... Every day is a schoolday!
    Excellent video - thank you.

    • @61rampy65
      @61rampy65 Місяць тому

      You may want to google the Reeves Octoauto and the Sextoauto. From 1908 (I think), the Octo had 4 front and 4 rear tires. The Sexto had 2 front and 4 back tires. These were street cars, not race cars. Not many were sold!

  • @cdjhyoung
    @cdjhyoung Місяць тому +21

    A 13th place finish is a failure for one car, but a 12th place finish is the proof of success for another? Pretty dicey opinions being offered here.

    • @RacingLineChannel
      @RacingLineChannel  Місяць тому +10

      Actually, I think I cut out a lot of information in the final version of the video, including about these two. The Liquid Suspension started in 13th place and finished in 13th place. The Clancy Special started in 21st place. Additionally, the LS was heavily tested by several good drivers, and there was some anticipation around it (so much so that MG advertised using images of the car). The CS did not.

    • @alias19
      @alias19 Місяць тому +8

      Think of Max Verstappen in 13th (failure) vs. Logan Sargeant in 12th (success).

    • @jacobmassey3897
      @jacobmassey3897 Місяць тому +2

      Well 12th is one place better than 13th.

    • @feelincrispy7053
      @feelincrispy7053 Місяць тому +1

      Ackchyually ☝️🥸

    • @pommunist
      @pommunist Місяць тому +2

      Finishing the race is better than not finishing

  • @mikego18753
    @mikego18753 Місяць тому +7

    VERY ENJOYABLE VID.

  • @G.S.W.SewmesomeMusic
    @G.S.W.SewmesomeMusic Місяць тому +4

    Indy was known for innovation and not just in the snake pit!👍

  • @bloqk16
    @bloqk16 Місяць тому +11

    I was familiar with all the cars in this video with the exception of the Eagle Aircraft . . . that was new to me.
    In the intro of this video, I'm most appreciative of the producer to inform the viewers of the AI generated narration.
    Lastly, I was familiar with the race driver Paul Russo, whom drove that twin-engined car at Indy. He was a talented and brave driver, as he also had a history of racing the powerful NOVI roadster in that era, too.

  • @yippeeclawyay2591
    @yippeeclawyay2591 Місяць тому +8

    This is a really well made video for a channel of a small size, ai voices aren’t the best to start with as it won’t get you too far, but the footage you used is great

  • @K-Effect
    @K-Effect Місяць тому +2

    1:29 That seat must’ve been hot sitting on top of those super chargers

  • @coolruehle
    @coolruehle Місяць тому +1

    That Clancy special looks like a flippin road grader!!

  • @davidshiveley4508
    @davidshiveley4508 Місяць тому +2

    You forgot the STP PAXTON TURBOCAR. it was entered in the '67 event with PARNELLI JONES driving. It blew a transmission bearing with 8 laps to go.

    • @RacingLineChannel
      @RacingLineChannel  Місяць тому +2

      In fact, I made a video about the Turbo Paxton and the Lotus 56 two years ago. The problem is that it's on my first channel (in brazilian portuguese) Over time, I'll translate and bring it here!

  • @ElTio.45-70
    @ElTio.45-70 Місяць тому +5

    Liquid Suspension, BMCs trade name for that suspension was Hydrolastic, don't know why they used other name in the USA market.

    • @RacingLineChannel
      @RacingLineChannel  Місяць тому +2

      BMC probably did that to give a sense of exclusivity to their product, even though it's something already present in other cars. It makes the product "feel special."

    • @terrystevens5261
      @terrystevens5261 Місяць тому +1

      @@RacingLineChannel Hydrolastic suspension was invented by British rubber engineer Alex Moulton, it was first used on a production car called the Morris 1100. (BMC)

    • @coldlakealta4043
      @coldlakealta4043 Місяць тому

      I had Hydrolastic in my Minis. Fantastic ride and road handling. They were (and still are) very successful race and rally cars. They are great fun to watch at vintage racing as they kick butt over much more powerful cars, including some "classics".

    • @61rampy65
      @61rampy65 Місяць тому

      @@terrystevens5261 Moulton also made a bicycle with a rubber suspension, but I think he only made one.

  • @jasmijnariel
    @jasmijnariel Місяць тому

    5:29 such a gorgeous car❤

  • @noydb-1
    @noydb-1 Місяць тому +19

    It was way better when a team could make its own car and each car was different than its competitors. Now Indycar is just a spec series with one car and two engine choices, yawn.

    • @61rampy65
      @61rampy65 Місяць тому +3

      Just like NASCAR.

    • @josephfraumeni2829
      @josephfraumeni2829 15 днів тому +1

      only because speeds are way faster today its about safety today the time tryles at indy speed LAP 239!! MPH

    • @Looney2ing
      @Looney2ing 9 днів тому +1

      That's formula 1.

  • @feelincrispy7053
    @feelincrispy7053 Місяць тому +2

    Hilarious how that their thinking for adding more grip was adding more wheels and not just widening the wheels lol

    • @jasmijnariel
      @jasmijnariel Місяць тому

      Remember planes with 12wings? 😅

  • @bob_._.
    @bob_._. Місяць тому +2

    "The Indianapolis Motor Speedway used to be a fertile ground for new ideas." - I fixed your opening line for you. I think carbon fiber chassis was the last innovation to come from there and that was over 40 years ago.

    • @DennisMerwood-xk8wp
      @DennisMerwood-xk8wp Місяць тому

      First carbon fiber chassis ~ Google: McLaren MP4/1. Not an Indy innovation, Bob.

  • @bbrod14
    @bbrod14 Місяць тому

    Torn: love that this type of content is out ther and it clearly comes from a good place, but not into AI vids at all.

  • @anonymousplanetfambly4598
    @anonymousplanetfambly4598 Місяць тому

    Roger Penske experimented where it counted with the Ilmor 2-valve. Innovation has always had a prominent place in motorsports...but some of the wackier ideas weren't presented quite so publicly as a debut at Indy. They were quietly swept under the rug and forgotten with time. These are the crazier ones for sure.

  • @oldschool1993
    @oldschool1993 Місяць тому

    I believe that the twin Coach Special of 1941 used components from the Gulf-Miller car of 1939 which was the first rear engine car to run at Indianapolis.

  • @sw653j
    @sw653j 14 днів тому

    No mention of the powerplant in the Eagle Aircraft car?

  • @9rjharper
    @9rjharper Місяць тому +3

    Nah. Every single concept was based on a theory. Good or bad. Of course they were, and it’s kinda weird to say otherwise. They were a bunch of smart dudes, trying cool stuff in an era without the privilege of data that we have now. It was a much cooler time.

  • @donwest5387
    @donwest5387 Місяць тому +2

    they where all rear-wheel drive. you mean rear mid-engine (Lotus)

  • @user-ks8pf5yk4m
    @user-ks8pf5yk4m 11 днів тому +1

    I used to be a sign painter and did lettering for race cars decades ago. Never got near anything big time like an Indy car. What I can't figure out is at 4:24, some of the worst-looking lettering ever seen for "Pat Clancy Spl" and the number is on this magnificent car that must've had tens of thousands of man hours and in today's money, hundreds of thousands if not millions, of dollars into its development. So they just let some mechanic or random guy do a half-baked job on that lettering? Like they couldn't have found some legitimate sign painter to spend a couple hours doing it up right? That looks worse than the graphics on a jalopy at the average small town dirt track. Ridiculous!

  • @alexprost7505
    @alexprost7505 Місяць тому

    Последний болид возможно затаившийся трансформер

  • @rogerclyde2720
    @rogerclyde2720 23 дні тому +2

    Indy used to be a place of development that anyone could challenge even from there home Garage, now everything seems to be canned and cloned and cost millions of dollars to compete, a great Tax write off for the rich. I would like to see a race where the cap in spending is 50k and the builders had to use their own ingenuity.

  • @alepaz1099
    @alepaz1099 Місяць тому +6

    A guy who builds aircraft doesn't know anything about aerodynamics? 🤯🤷‍♂

    • @gemanscombe4985
      @gemanscombe4985 Місяць тому +1

      That close to the ground, not so much. About suspension settings, nearly nothing - but was willing to make changes in secret! Guy needed a tune-up.

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings Місяць тому +2

      6:40 In contrast to whoever wrote this script, we see a plane's wing shape. I suppose the engineer did have an idea. 70 years later, we can all say there would have been better solutions. I hope to not come across thus channel so soon again.

    • @soundofdreams1034
      @soundofdreams1034 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@needfoolthingsThe wing appeared later on the car (and the video mentions this). Look for images of the car during the practices, there's no wing at the beginning. Don't be so butthurt

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings Місяць тому

      @@soundofdreams1034 I'm talking about the shape of the front wheel with its front and rear ... whatchamacallit, skirts?

  • @curtisnewton895
    @curtisnewton895 29 днів тому

    2:06 how the fuck do some people manage to have no brakes and no steering at the same time, at that speed....

  • @StephanBuchin
    @StephanBuchin Місяць тому

    I must admit I am deeply impressed by the AI voice in this video.

  • @nelsonbergman7706
    @nelsonbergman7706 Місяць тому +2

    Indy has a great history but its glory days are behind it. Too many other series to attract drivers and money.

  • @grinningg
    @grinningg Місяць тому

    balls driving that!

  • @allareasindex7984
    @allareasindex7984 Місяць тому

    Rear wheel drive is not the same as rear engine.

  • @timothyproksch2915
    @timothyproksch2915 Місяць тому

    Run what you brung

  • @briantaylor9285
    @briantaylor9285 29 днів тому

    Wilson waa clueless. Wow.

  • @JoeLocastro
    @JoeLocastro Місяць тому +13

    I will professionally narrate your videos for free if you promise not to use AI again for voice over.

    • @KillyJoe
      @KillyJoe 12 днів тому +1

      Are you like me. Ai narrated videos make me sick. It just screams to me oh a video made by someone that doesn’t have a clue what they are talking about and found a topic they could make a video about

    • @Sajuuk
      @Sajuuk 9 днів тому +1

      There's AI voices that sound annoying af and AI voices that sound perfectly OK. Don't conflate the two. I know of many UA-camrs who's voices are worse than any AI.
      And don't attack AI just because it's AI.

  • @donwest5387
    @donwest5387 Місяць тому +1

    4 rear wheels doesn't want to turn

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings Місяць тому

      Of course, in American "racing", you don't have to turn...

    • @1dave301
      @1dave301 19 днів тому

      I had a 2 axle car trailer. One day, a friend had borrowed it to tow his car to my shop. At one point, I had to walk along side the trailer's tires while he was backing the loaded trailer and turning sharply. So much scuffing sounds and creaking, etc. I felt sorry for that trailer and the tires. Semi trucks and other vehicles w/o steerable rear axles go thru the same thing, of course.

  • @user-ks8pf5yk4m
    @user-ks8pf5yk4m 11 днів тому

    Not always. Not for years. It used to be. Now it's saccharine entertainment, every car the same, no experimentation, no true competitive innovation.

  • @markskrobis9841
    @markskrobis9841 Місяць тому +1

    So much uncalled for negativity in the comments. Wow. @RacingLineChannel Don't let the b*st*rds grind you down. I took alook at your other channel. I would love to see more videos translated to English and posted here.

    • @markskrobis9841
      @markskrobis9841 Місяць тому

      I looked through more of the comments. Most were positive. Anyway, I still want more of your older content translated. Keep up the good work.

    • @RacingLineChannel
      @RacingLineChannel  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much! It's good to know that my content has reached other audiences beyond the original. I learned early on to ignore most of the haters, but I admit it can be quite toxic. Thank you for the support!

  • @user-hk5zb4oi7i
    @user-hk5zb4oi7i Місяць тому +1

    only listen to human beings. Rule 1.

  • @feedboy2112
    @feedboy2112 Місяць тому +1

    First and last time watching your channel.
    Narration by AI? No thank you.

  • @joehomoky2393
    @joehomoky2393 Місяць тому +2

    Maybe it’s just me but why’d we get away from this in the Indy series/ Indy 500. So many innovations, Half baked ideas and interesting tech. All the racing is sooo boring now

    • @alanluscombe8a553
      @alanluscombe8a553 22 дні тому

      Racing isn’t boring you just don’t like proper motor racing. Racing is closer and more competitive now than any other time. If you wanna see high tech massive innovation look at f1. The cars aren’t all equal they all have different approaches to the same parts. You pay for that though cause teams with cash that make good on innovation actions blow the field away and win damn near every race due to it.

    • @SelectCircle
      @SelectCircle 15 днів тому

      Will there ever be an experimental racing league again? 8 /

    • @1984jns
      @1984jns 13 днів тому

      There's still great minds and strategies, and usually the 500 is a decent race, not to mention the indy series quality of racing as a whole.

  • @9rjharper
    @9rjharper Місяць тому +5

    Honestly, you have a pretty snotty attitude about these guys and these cars. “Lack of common sense”? Weird take, and COMPLETE bs. Who do you think they were? They were accomplished racecar engineers and fabricators, breaking new ground. It’s strange of you to look back, with the benefit of decades racecars of all sorts, including these, and say they “lacked common sense”. Have some perspective and respect.

    • @DennisMerwood-xk8wp
      @DennisMerwood-xk8wp Місяць тому

      The Yanks NEVER broke new ground at Indy. It took the Europeans in 1963 to do that.
      Except for Granatelli's turbine car.