My father once had a 1994 T4 with the NA 1.9 diesel 4-cylinder....It wasn't quite as low as the 49bhp version in this video, but I think it was like 61 or 65, which even just pulling the van was sloooooooooooow. It was rated to carry 800kg as well, so I dread to think how horrible it must have been loaded up to the max weight. It had a towbar too, so in theory you'd have been able to make it even worse!
What a difference....our Transporter Mk4 2.5 TDI from 2000 uses less than 7 l/100 km. Most of the time it runs non-turbo'ed anyway, sadly. Starts kicking in at ~2400 rpm which you're basically only going to hit in fifth. I'd like to point out though that vans usually have a (strongly) reduced gear ratio on all gears in the transmission which makes them accelerate slower by standard, not just because of low power output. Obviously, this is done to allow the van to carry a lot of weight while still being able to accelerate, although slowly.
My father had a Benz W123 with the four pots, two liters OM617... 55 whole Hp SAE . 0-100 km/h in the low 30 seconds, 124 km/h max speed... And he managed to rake in a speeding ticket on a steep up-hill, just to be able to brag that he could get the thing to go (any) fast. God, I still miss him.
My buddy had a 6.2 L Detroit in his old Chevy. That poor truck when through hell and back with over 300k miles, spent its life pulling stuff it had no business pulling and living on the red line. It has an inspection hole now in the side of the block but it gave me a whole new level of respect for the 6.2
I thoroughly enjoyed my two years driving my Seat Ibiza with it's 1.9SDi engine. I once averaged 67.9mpg from one full tank . I've never had a car go so far on a gallon of fuel!
Thats so cool! Dont know why people care that much about power. I have 1.5dci and after opening wastegate so it has no boost i basically have 1.5l NA diesel and it lowered my fuel consumption. Power is barely relevant if its enough to drive
remuaja84 If I remember correctly, the NA version of the OM606 still holds the record as having the highest specific output of any mass produced diesel. Also, the turbo version is capable of producing obscene amounts of power. Some consider it the pinnacle of pre-combustion chamber design. This is what makes the OM606 so great, the fact that it makes use of oldschool mechanical in-line injection and a pre-combustion chamber.
Nimeni Defapt Because they don't have a turbo, which makes them louder and more pronounced than turbo diesels, and have a more pure sound like a gasoline engine.
Not true. I have a 14 year old Daewoo Matiz with over 100,000 miles on it and it runs like new. You just have to change its oil every 3000 miles like I did and it runs great. The amazing thing is that the Matiz is also faster than some of the cars in this video. I had a Peugeot 306 1.9d which is slower.
I do. It's a gasoline engine, after all.. :D Shame, it's a 90's car & still has lower specific output than 40-years-older pushrod 327ci small block (~72hp/l)
I drive a VW Caddy with a 1.9 SDI for work and I honestly didn't think there were slower cars haha. Every time I get in my 115 hp Honda after work it feels like a super car.
My father still has Skoda Fabia with 1.9 SDI engine. It's actually 64HP as others said already. It's not the fastest thing in the world, but fuel consumption is really low and reliability of these engines is great.
smaller springs (to plant the car closer to the ground) and bigger, lighter rims can make driveability better in a racetrack if its done well. i dont get this show car thing. its makes no sense to me
that doesnt look like its good on the racetrack lol. show car is a good looking car that is purely made to look good (every stanced car ever) and this fabia doesnt have any performance potential.
Don't even get me started on the UK car scene's over saturation of Mk7 Ford Fiestas...Most of them are base models with those stupid pop and bang maps. First, they don't even sound good, they're just loud, and second, my 97 Mazda 323f that only has 115 bhp can keep up with them
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VW SDI 1.9 has 68HP 50KW... 35HP per liter, old engine developed from 1.7D, 1.9D in Skoda Felicia has 64hp 33,75 hp per liter. Old VW 1.6D engine has 55hp, which is almost 35hp/l.
The 7.3 navistar used by Ford before mid 1993 model year is not turbo, The earlier 6.9 was even less power and torque. The factory turbo 7.3 was available mid '93 to mid '94 when the Powerstroke turbo arrived.
Man I love this channel. videos of best sounding italian v6 side to side with a big list of horrendously sluggish diesels... I can satisfy my lust for mechanical contraptions whatever they are :)
I kinda expected to see the Mercedes OM615. A 2L 4pot which originally produced 55hp (27.5 per L) but the later version developed a stonking 60hp. It was practically impossible to kill and during its production powered 80-90% of all german taxis.
Regarding the "VW SDI" Engine: They're not all "SDI", SDI only means that it's a NA Diesel with direct injection, the older versions of those engines had a Whirlchamber (indirect injection). I believe the last ones with Whirlchamber were in the Skoda Felicias up to 2000 (something I bought this week...). As far as pace goes, it's actually overexaggerated by people looking at the numbers. A Diesel has more narrow rev band and thus provides a higher amount of power at lower revs. In everyday driving, you would (hopefully) not rev out any engine anyway. Let me give you a real world comparsion: A Skoda (VW) 1.9D with 64PS (47kw) @ 4800RPM: At 1500RPM has 120Nm Torque and about 25PS/18kw. At 3000rpm, you have 124Nm Torque and about 50PS/37kw. Now we compare a Honda S2000 with 241PS (177kw) @ 8800RPM: At 1500RPM it has about 30PS/22kw and about 120Nm Torque. At 3000RPM it has about 80PS/59kw and about 190Nm Torque. At 3000RPM in the highest gear, my Skoda would sit at 70mph or 113km/h, the S2000 due to shorter gears just a bit lower. Obviously, you could just floor it in a lower gear and use more power (= fuel) and Turbo/Supercharged Cars would blow the Torque figures to a entirely different level. I picked the comparsion just to visualize how little power you use/need to drive at legal/economical speeds.
I think one of the best van is Iveco Turbo Daily.I owned one for a four years.Bought it with 620000km,sold it with 1350000.2.5 Direct Injection TD,92hp.Max speed was 125km/h,but acceleration was far better then others in same class.Rated at 1500kg,you can overtake other vehichles with ease in fifth gear.When cargo space is empty,you don't need first gear to start.Going downhill with full cargo in first gear,and forget about the breakes.I was king of the vans on hilly roads.The only dissadvantage was,under 1800 rpm,it has big turbo lag.I mean really BIG.Also as time goes on and milage also,on low temperatures,when starting the cold engine,it shaked the all body until heat up a little.
I'm the proud owner of a '98 Nissan Almera with 2 litres and an astonishing power of 75 hp... and I thought it was slow. But it's absolutely indestructible, I think its engine has been forged in Mordor. I've never had a breakdown or whatsoever and if you know how to deal with the gearbox, you can travel at a normal pace just like everybody else.
What size truck you got and what are you your mpg's like? I have considered the Banks kit it, but really like the economy on the NA 6.2...not worried about winning street races these days 😊
Duallys man...gotta love the capacity and the look, but they kill ya on mileage 😅 You'd be maybe a couple mpg better with singles. I use the Transforce A/Ts and I am touching 1000kms all-highway kms with conservative driving on 34 gallons 😄
I daily an Ibiza 1.9 SDI from 2000 now and I can't say anything bad about performance for a N/A diesel. Yes it's slow but I have absolutely no problems merging in traffic etc. including entering expressways. Year ago I drove a Mazda 323 1.7D and I was getting a new job while being completely broke and didn't even have money to fuel it up, so I put old motor and transmission oil in the tank. It probably needed over a full minute from 0 to 100 km/h and I drove it 40km one way to work everyday, somehow got it up to 120-130 km/h and even overtook people if I got a solid run up from behind. Did it for 2 weeks until a dude paid off the car parts he bought from me "in credit" and I could fill it up. It smoked on the oil but stopped smoking within 100km when it went back to diesel fuel. On regular diesel fuel it would happily run up to 160 km/h where it would sit at rev governor in 5th gear. Small 13" wheels, a short gearbox and being a ~1000kg box helped (in both cases, Ibiza and Mazda)
My non-turbo gas 740 is decent...but only after stripping close to 300 pounds out of it! 😂 The NA D24 cars are crazy slow though, they really need the turbo.
i must be a weird guy cause i prefer sound over power, if i can't pass someone on the highway i don't care, as long i love the sound my vehicle makes! i love 6.2 Detroit!!!!!!!!!!!
My dad had a 1957 Mercedes-Benz 180D. The thing probably weighed close to 4,000 pounds and with the tiny naturally aspirated 4-cylinder Diesel, made slow an exaggeration. That was back in the day when you flashed your lights and waved at other Benz drivers; there were so few on the road. Back in the early 1960s, Diesel cost around $0.15/gallon and the car got over 30 miles/gallon.
Nice to see some stuff from Flexiny here. His whole channel is a remarkable collection of old junk and neglected vehicles that they fix up. The Mercedes diesels he's done don't take much to get running after years and years of sitting.
Old London buses put up a ffair fight here. 11 litre displacement and 120 HP to the wheels on a good day. The turbocharged 8+ litre engines that are used more commonly aren't much more powerful if at all but they have better low end torque and volumetric efficiency and are quite a bit better on fuel. Still more thirsty than a Jag XF (and I'm not talking about the diesel version!!)
OM 606 was built in 5 or 6 different variants, and last NA variant was built by 1997. After 1997 all engines from 606 series have had turbo charger, and output of 177 HP with over 300 Nm torque at 1500 rpm.
hasnfefer If I remember correctly, the NA version of the OM606 still holds the record as having the highest specific output of any mass produced diesel. Also, the turbo version is capable of producing obscene amounts of power. Some consider it the pinnacle of pre-combustion chamber design. This is what makes the OM606 so great, the fact that it makes use of oldschool mechanical in-line injection and a pre-combustion chamber.
I had a 7.3 idi NA diesel in a ford f250. I didn't win many races, but it had great pulling power and sounded nice with a straight pipe. Mine was turned up, but stock, their fuel mileage is actually pretty good for a truck that big.
I got a Saxo with de 1.5D engine. It's terribly slow on the straights(57hp), but you can't imagine what that chassis does in very narrow twisty roads. Just awesome!
my landcruiser is a 4.2 litre straight 6 diesel and it only puts put 128hp at the crank but also 285nm of torque. and its a japanese engine. but also one of the most reliable engines ever made. still has the power to do a burnout as well
i have a 2.5 i4 NA diesel isuzu pickup truck, 54kw(72hp), 29hp/litre lmao its very slow but it has a 520,000km unopened engine and still runs like brand new so im very happy
Brilliant and interesting as usual ;) Let me point out though that you forgot about the worst Opel engines in terms of power The OHC four 1.6 diesel delivering 54 hp and the horrible CIH four diesel (2.0 with 57 hp, 2.1 with 60 hp and 2.3 with 65 hp) I think at least one of them should have been included, but I cannot blame you if you didn't know about them :D
This seriously needs a part 2 considering those heavier diesel engines with even lower specific power outputs. Take a Gardner 6LXB puttng out 188bhp (at its maximum state of tune) with 10.45 L displacement for instance.
The 57hp 1527cc was a v good unit with up to 78.5mpg and 100mph in the citroen ax. It was also just below 1549cc unlike most other diesels so qualified for almost half the uk road tax.
okok so for the D24, the heads issues are only on the 240 Volvo and due to some errors in the measurements. They need good care otherwise they'll fail. But well maintained they are pretty much bulletproof, simply not a bulletproof as the really good redblocks
Hey, that's pretty great to me ! They are still fast to me, i thought they were really really super slow but they are actually doing a good job, and they are also reliable and economic I wish i had one of those
It goes to show how amazing modern turbo diesels are. I am surprised that some of these smokers survived for so long. In the UK large truck diesels were transformed in the 70s by efficient turbos. Until then they had been grim.
You really need to consider torque as well as power when comparing diesels to petrol/gas engines! As you didn't mention any diesels from Mitsubishi, they can't be too sluggish! I just love the way my '95 Pajero J-top (soft-top swb) just cruises up hills without needing change down, but it is an inter-cooled turbo & the 2.5L is well matched to the weight of the vehicle (about 2/3 that of the wagon)!
Back in 2002 I had a citroen xantia for 2 years 1.9 I dont think that was turbo my only memory of it was how slow it was but engine was super reliable unlike the hydropnematic suspension that killed it.
The OM606 is actually the most powerful NA diesel engine ever built so far, by hp/liter. I've had an OM616, two OM617's, one OM604 and an OM605 and they are bulletproof engines, oil change in 15 minutes and you're ready for another 10000K!
I love a high revving petrol which rewards you for driving carefully but have driven a Land Rover with an ex-Humvee Detroit 6.2 and manual box. That thing will pull away in third/high without touching the throttle and the power just of idle is amazing. Of course if you rev it you don't really get any more than that but for towing and recovery work it's amazing. In fact I would go as far as to say it could do with an auto 'box, and I despise autos.
The Volkswagen D24 was originally a five cylinder engine it was Volvo which added the extra cylinder. In Turbo Diesel form in the Volvo 760 GLE it was the fast Diesel vehicle in the world at the time according to Volvo.
Hey, most of the cars I used to have could have gone on that list. VW T3 1.6liter 50hp, VW Taro 2.4liter 80hp and Nissan Patrol 3.3 95hp. Can´t beat an understressed diesel engine for getting you there and back everytime.
Passed my driving test in a Fiesta diesel that lacked both a turbo and power steering. If you haven't driven one of these up a steep hill, you don't know pain 😂
my dad drives a natural Aspirated 4zyl Diesel Mercedes C class from 1994 - it has 95hp. its enough to get from point a to point b. and it sounds like a fucking ship diesel from outside - but its really quiet inside!
I had a Mercedes 200 diesel, 1976, it used 38 sec to reach 100 km/h. ;)
Johnny 280zx still more fun than most cars today. Todays cars have no soul, should i say
Indestructible
@@teme5529 I agree with you
My mercedes didnt reach 100
Do you mean 8 biznis days?
so these are the engines that they put in GTA Cars huh?
Don’t make fun of my 23.7L V24
They look like ur going fast when ur actually really really slow
@@Pepperoni_Toni 🤣🤣
@@Pepperoni_Toni that has the twin nitro super bearings in it right?
You know whats the worst combo?- 2.4l i5 VW n/a ~50kW engine in VW transporter- eats at least 12l/100km of diesel and accelerates like a snail
Aurimas Knieža yea true, its way to little for a van
My father once had a 1994 T4 with the NA 1.9 diesel 4-cylinder....It wasn't quite as low as the 49bhp version in this video, but I think it was like 61 or 65, which even just pulling the van was sloooooooooooow. It was rated to carry 800kg as well, so I dread to think how horrible it must have been loaded up to the max weight. It had a towbar too, so in theory you'd have been able to make it even worse!
What a difference....our Transporter Mk4 2.5 TDI from 2000 uses less than 7 l/100 km. Most of the time it runs non-turbo'ed anyway, sadly. Starts kicking in at ~2400 rpm which you're basically only going to hit in fifth. I'd like to point out though that vans usually have a (strongly) reduced gear ratio on all gears in the transmission which makes them accelerate slower by standard, not just because of low power output. Obviously, this is done to allow the van to carry a lot of weight while still being able to accelerate, although slowly.
T3 with 1.6d...get on my level boi
My 1987 VW Golf, 1.6D with 54HP only uses 4.5L/100km (on the highway)
beat that! :D
My father had a Benz W123 with the four pots, two liters OM617... 55 whole Hp SAE .
0-100 km/h in the low 30 seconds, 124 km/h max speed...
And he managed to rake in a speeding ticket on a steep up-hill, just to be able to brag that he could get the thing to go (any) fast.
God, I still miss him.
Da Botz
The four-banger was the OM616 engine.
Thanks... still 55hp, which makes an impressive 27.5 hp/litre and 37 hp/ton.
A nail.
Nice.
Best comment here
@@gregorymalchuk272the om616 is a 2.4l,the 55hp version he's talking about is the pre-1980 om615
My buddy had a 6.2 L Detroit in his old Chevy. That poor truck when through hell and back with over 300k miles, spent its life pulling stuff it had no business pulling and living on the red line. It has an inspection hole now in the side of the block but it gave me a whole new level of respect for the 6.2
Those rims on the Beemer were just horrendous.
Weren’t they!!
I thoroughly enjoyed my two years driving my Seat Ibiza with it's 1.9SDi engine.
I once averaged 67.9mpg from one full tank . I've never had a car go so far on a gallon of fuel!
Thats so cool! Dont know why people care that much about power. I have 1.5dci and after opening wastegate so it has no boost i basically have 1.5l NA diesel and it lowered my fuel consumption. Power is barely relevant if its enough to drive
I think my boat engine would qualify: Volvo BM 1053 engine from 1956...
3.3 litre and 35 bhp.
Let's not talk about the 1052 then XD
I think their destination was 10 hp per 1 litre.And they got even more.So powerful!!!
I love my 6.2 even though it`s lazy as hell. Reliable and sweet sounding with straight pipes and not very thirsty either
Yeah those 6.2s can run all day at 2000 and hardly use a gallon. Great motors except for their glow plug design and timing setup.
The first one actually has the most specific power output of commercial NA diesels :D
remuaja84 was going to say, the OM606 kicks arse
Absolutely
Just what it says on the tin. The opposite of the video title.
remuaja84 If I remember correctly, the NA version of the OM606 still holds the record as having the highest specific output of any mass produced diesel. Also, the turbo version is capable of producing obscene amounts of power. Some consider it the pinnacle of pre-combustion chamber design. This is what makes the OM606 so great, the fact that it makes use of oldschool mechanical in-line injection and a pre-combustion chamber.
did anyone notice that the exhausts of these na diesels sound very close to gasoline engines?
Nimeni Defapt
Not at all
those mercedes sounded like BMW Inline's
Nimeni Defapt Because they don't have a turbo, which makes them louder and more pronounced than turbo diesels, and have a more pure sound like a gasoline engine.
Nimeni Defapt I did with the 6.2 but why is that
yes but ten times more smoke out of them as well haha
Mercedes OM636 had 39hp from 1.76L engine, about 22 bhp/litre. Was used in Mercedes Unimog trucks in 1960s and 1970s.
Would you believe that an 800cc Daewoo Matiz has a higher specific output than these NA diesels? (62.8 bhp / litre)
Josh Bacon haha yeah but a Daewoo Matiz is knackered by the time it's worn in xD JK
Not true. I have a 14 year old Daewoo Matiz with over 100,000 miles on it and it runs like new. You just have to change its oil every 3000 miles like I did and it runs great.
The amazing thing is that the Matiz is also faster than some of the cars in this video. I had a Peugeot 306 1.9d which is slower.
Yes, because specific output has nothing to do with displacement
Try a VAG diesel that runs like new at 200,000 :)
I do. It's a gasoline engine, after all.. :D
Shame, it's a 90's car & still has lower specific output than 40-years-older pushrod 327ci small block (~72hp/l)
9:00 that Old's engine delivers more power from exhaust gases than at the wheels.
I drive a VW Caddy with a 1.9 SDI for work and I honestly didn't think there were slower cars haha. Every time I get in my 115 hp Honda after work it feels like a super car.
My father still has Skoda Fabia with 1.9 SDI engine. It's actually 64HP as others said already. It's not the fastest thing in the world, but fuel consumption is really low and reliability of these engines is great.
In the diesel world torque > power means better fuel economy
who was the madman who riced out that Skoda?? its an 1.9 SDI slow as fuck. not a Polo GTI!!!
so you need to have a high performance variant of the car to make it a show car with big rims and no driveability
That's Poland for you
smaller springs (to plant the car closer to the ground) and bigger, lighter rims can make driveability better in a racetrack if its done well. i dont get this show car thing. its makes no sense to me
u stupid kid sdi is very good engine !!! 1 000 000km normal for this engine !! non turbo non electric easy engine good construption only no power a ?
that doesnt look like its good on the racetrack lol. show car is a good looking car that is purely made to look good (every stanced car ever) and this fabia doesnt have any performance potential.
I always find it amusing when people put some racing wheels on a slow car :) Or even difusors, spoilers and other wannabefast stuff :D
Don't even get me started on the UK car scene's over saturation of Mk7 Ford Fiestas...Most of them are base models with those stupid pop and bang maps. First, they don't even sound good, they're just loud, and second, my 97 Mazda 323f that only has 115 bhp can keep up with them
Just want to say... I have been watching you for a very long time... 25K in fact. Not only have your videos dramatically improved from then to now, your English has come a long way too. It keeps getting better!! Keep up the good work!
I like how you do 'special' top 10. This one was perfect for a good laugh!
VW SDI 1.9 has 68HP 50KW... 35HP per liter, old engine developed from 1.7D, 1.9D in Skoda Felicia has 64hp 33,75 hp per liter. Old VW 1.6D engine has 55hp, which is almost 35hp/l.
Had an Opel Ascona C with 1.6 NA diesel producing 40kW (55HP).
The car's body was junk but that engine was reliable AF!
I'm glad Visio you have made something about diesels. Thanks for another great video!
Ford 7.3 idi making 185 hp/ 25.34 hp per litre
While that's terrible, it doesn't fit here since it's turbocharged.
masterofThardus they had the 7.3 idi which was used for a couple years then for 1 production year in 1994 they had a turbo variant
The 7.3 navistar used by Ford before mid 1993 model year is not turbo, The earlier 6.9 was even less power and torque. The factory turbo 7.3 was available mid '93 to mid '94 when the Powerstroke turbo arrived.
Dale Bryant - My mistake. I saw 7.3 and my mind immediately put "powerstroke" where it said "idi."
excellent video again!!!!! makes me proud of my VW 1,9 D ( the one before SDi)
Man I love this channel. videos of best sounding italian v6 side to side with a big list of horrendously sluggish diesels... I can satisfy my lust for mechanical contraptions whatever they are :)
OM606 for life. Man, I wish I had an E300D or 300D.
I kinda expected to see the Mercedes OM615. A 2L 4pot which originally produced 55hp (27.5 per L) but the later version developed a stonking 60hp. It was practically impossible to kill and during its production powered 80-90% of all german taxis.
Regarding the "VW SDI" Engine: They're not all "SDI", SDI only means that it's a NA Diesel with direct injection, the older versions of those engines had a Whirlchamber (indirect injection). I believe the last ones with Whirlchamber were in the Skoda Felicias up to 2000 (something I bought this week...).
As far as pace goes, it's actually overexaggerated by people looking at the numbers. A Diesel has more narrow rev band and thus provides a higher amount of power at lower revs.
In everyday driving, you would (hopefully) not rev out any engine anyway.
Let me give you a real world comparsion:
A Skoda (VW) 1.9D with 64PS (47kw) @ 4800RPM:
At 1500RPM has 120Nm Torque and about 25PS/18kw.
At 3000rpm, you have 124Nm Torque and about 50PS/37kw.
Now we compare a Honda S2000 with 241PS (177kw) @ 8800RPM:
At 1500RPM it has about 30PS/22kw and about 120Nm Torque.
At 3000RPM it has about 80PS/59kw and about 190Nm Torque.
At 3000RPM in the highest gear, my Skoda would sit at 70mph or 113km/h, the S2000 due to shorter gears just a bit lower.
Obviously, you could just floor it in a lower gear and use more power (= fuel) and Turbo/Supercharged Cars would blow the Torque figures to a entirely different level.
I picked the comparsion just to visualize how little power you use/need to drive at legal/economical speeds.
a diesel without a turbo is like a cigarette without a light
That's right! Your life will be longer just like the life of the engine.
I think one of the best van is Iveco Turbo Daily.I owned one for a four years.Bought it with 620000km,sold it with 1350000.2.5 Direct Injection TD,92hp.Max speed was 125km/h,but acceleration was far better then others in same class.Rated at 1500kg,you can overtake other vehichles with ease in fifth gear.When cargo space is empty,you don't need first gear to start.Going downhill with full cargo in first gear,and forget about the breakes.I was king of the vans on hilly roads.The only dissadvantage was,under 1800 rpm,it has big turbo lag.I mean really BIG.Also as time goes on and milage also,on low temperatures,when starting the cold engine,it shaked the all body until heat up a little.
these reminds me of american gas engines
Andy [Xvixx] Camaro IROC-Z lol.
Yeah because everyone relates old N/A diesel to an LS3...
jmelzer That Camaro's engine revs low, has relatively low power for how large the engine is, but has a lot of torque, just like a Diesel.
400+hp stock. Real low power.
the 5.0 is also bigger and heavier than the ls3
I'm the proud owner of a '98 Nissan Almera with 2 litres and an astonishing power of 75 hp... and I thought it was slow. But it's absolutely indestructible, I think its engine has been forged in Mordor. I've never had a breakdown or whatsoever and if you know how to deal with the gearbox, you can travel at a normal pace just like everybody else.
Man...I love my 6.2 diesel!! My 5000lb 4x4 GMC 2500 uses less fuel on the highway than my 2.3 NA gas Volvo!! 😀
Cool, I got a 6.5.
What size truck you got and what are you your mpg's like?
I have considered the Banks kit it, but really like the economy on the NA 6.2...not worried about winning street races these days 😊
lol It's a 1 ton 2 door dully, 10000lb 2wd and I think about 16 in town and 20ish on the highway, it's hard to tell (my trip meter is messed up).
Duallys man...gotta love the capacity and the look, but they kill ya on mileage 😅
You'd be maybe a couple mpg better with singles. I use the Transforce A/Ts and I am touching 1000kms all-highway kms with conservative driving on 34 gallons 😄
1991 K2500 ext. cab long bed
The NA OM606 makes the same HP figure as my turbo 603 - the 24V head really makes a difference! The NA engine has less torque of course.
Nice video 👍I had the VW Golf 1.9d with 64 hp. You actually could tune it by tune the pump this gave it a performance boost of 15ps 😎
American Mechanical Engineers :Let's put some volume and pistons to this shit and we are done.
Mehmet Cumhur pretty much sums it up
They sound really decent!
I daily an Ibiza 1.9 SDI from 2000 now and I can't say anything bad about performance for a N/A diesel. Yes it's slow but I have absolutely no problems merging in traffic etc. including entering expressways. Year ago I drove a Mazda 323 1.7D and I was getting a new job while being completely broke and didn't even have money to fuel it up, so I put old motor and transmission oil in the tank. It probably needed over a full minute from 0 to 100 km/h and I drove it 40km one way to work everyday, somehow got it up to 120-130 km/h and even overtook people if I got a solid run up from behind. Did it for 2 weeks until a dude paid off the car parts he bought from me "in credit" and I could fill it up. It smoked on the oil but stopped smoking within 100km when it went back to diesel fuel.
On regular diesel fuel it would happily run up to 160 km/h where it would sit at rev governor in 5th gear.
Small 13" wheels, a short gearbox and being a ~1000kg box helped (in both cases, Ibiza and Mazda)
1.6l vw with 54bhp right here! :D but hey, power is not the only thing that makes driving fun. Stay save y'all
10 hp/weight ratio cars or bikes. You have good content. Keep up!
I have a 2006 Volkswagen gol country (a south american car) has a 1.9 diesel (no turbo) and makes 46hp
Argentina?
A non-turbo Brick, that can't be very much fun.
My non-turbo gas 740 is decent...but only after stripping close to 300 pounds out of it! 😂 The NA D24 cars are crazy slow though, they really need the turbo.
we are talking about bricks (old square Volvos), the psa crap you mentioned cant even compare to volvos
Even in a small French car it takes 17-18 seconds to get to 100km/h. It has enough power to make them roll on the highway I guess.
i must be a weird guy cause i prefer sound over power, if i can't pass someone on the highway i don't care, as long i love the sound my vehicle makes! i love 6.2 Detroit!!!!!!!!!!!
First car I ever owned was a Volvo 760 diesel which was great fun and quite frugal.
It did have the VW 2.4L I6 turbo though.
Those NA V8 diesels sound like exquisite.
My dad had a 1957 Mercedes-Benz 180D. The thing probably weighed close to 4,000 pounds and with the tiny naturally aspirated 4-cylinder Diesel, made slow an exaggeration. That was back in the day when you flashed your lights and waved at other Benz drivers; there were so few on the road.
Back in the early 1960s, Diesel cost around $0.15/gallon and the car got over 30 miles/gallon.
you forgot international harvester 420 used in ford f250 1983-86, made about 21.8 hp per litre.
I think your facts om the Volkswagen d24 is wrong, they were not produced from 1993 to 2001, but from 1978 to 1995. And the output was 82hp, not 69hp
Nice to see some stuff from Flexiny here. His whole channel is a remarkable collection of old junk and neglected vehicles that they fix up. The Mercedes diesels he's done don't take much to get running after years and years of sitting.
Was not expecting that drift show. Made me laugh, cause that would be me. lol 4:37
Actualy VW 1.9 sdi's have 50 kW (69HP), not 50 hp.
They have 64 hp.
jospi2 But only in fabia
Roman Károly In Fabia, Octavia, Golf, Polo, Ibiza etc.
Miko 00 Ok! Im from Slovakia so for me mainstream is fabia.
Miko 00 In octavia 50kw 133nm
Old London buses put up a ffair fight here. 11 litre displacement and 120 HP to the wheels on a good day. The turbocharged 8+ litre engines that are used more commonly aren't much more powerful if at all but they have better low end torque and volumetric efficiency and are quite a bit better on fuel. Still more thirsty than a Jag XF (and I'm not talking about the diesel version!!)
Who in their right mind walks into a dealer and gets excited by these slugs and then buys one. By the way I love you videos they are very informative,
Actually, the TUD5 stands for Turbo Ultra Diesel 5. It's the fastest diesel ever produced.
One neat part about the Olds diesels is they can be converted to gas, and bored out from 350ci to over 400ci. (5,735cc to over 6,558cc)
OM 606 was built in 5 or 6 different variants, and last NA variant was built by 1997. After 1997 all engines from 606 series have had turbo charger, and output of 177 HP with over 300 Nm torque at 1500 rpm.
hasnfefer If I remember correctly, the NA version of the OM606 still holds the record as having the highest specific output of any mass produced diesel. Also, the turbo version is capable of producing obscene amounts of power. Some consider it the pinnacle of pre-combustion chamber design. This is what makes the OM606 so great, the fact that it makes use of oldschool mechanical in-line injection and a pre-combustion chamber.
Yes I didn’t expect to see it on this list atall actually lol, it revs incredibly freely aswell,
1.9 sdi has 64-69hp i think.....
Luca Brecel exactly what i wanted to post here
Visio racer knows nothing about cars or english language, here are all sdi enginesen.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDI_(engine)
60hp in the VW Transporter
Correcto
Correct. What Visio was wrong about was that the 49hp 1.9 engine was of the original SD variant, NOT the SDI (which was 64hp)
I had a 7.3 idi NA diesel in a ford f250. I didn't win many races, but it had great pulling power and sounded nice with a straight pipe. Mine was turned up, but stock, their fuel mileage is actually pretty good for a truck that big.
I got a Saxo with de 1.5D engine. It's terribly slow on the straights(57hp), but you can't imagine what that chassis does in very narrow twisty roads. Just awesome!
A friend of mine has one too, ahaha so slow that makes us laugh. In the highway is superslow and very noisy and high rpm's
Bruno Miguel
So true jajaja I'm always the last. But I spend in diesel less than half the money my friends do
my landcruiser is a 4.2 litre straight 6 diesel and it only puts put 128hp at the crank but also 285nm of torque. and its a japanese engine. but also one of the most reliable engines ever made. still has the power to do a burnout as well
I love the idle of an inline 6 diesel, so if I can find one I might try and get an old Volvo with the D24, with a turbo preferably
i have a 2.5 i4 NA diesel isuzu pickup truck, 54kw(72hp), 29hp/litre lmao its very slow but it has a 520,000km unopened engine and still runs like brand new so im very happy
Brilliant and interesting as usual ;)
Let me point out though that you forgot about the worst Opel engines in terms of power
The OHC four 1.6 diesel delivering 54 hp and the horrible CIH four diesel (2.0 with 57 hp, 2.1 with 60 hp and 2.3 with 65 hp)
I think at least one of them should have been included, but I cannot blame you if you didn't know about them :D
The Americans hey, fuel prices getting ridiculous? We'll make a V8....
Every problem in the world can be solved with a V8
If it didnt notice, that 6.2 V8 diesel is capable of 26mpg in a large truck and 30mpg with a rear gear change.. Back in 1980s..
@@DarkLinkAD And my old 80's Peugeot with a gasoline engine gets 43 MPG. So?
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge Which is abysmal by comparison.. Your Peugeot weighs less than 1/3rd the weight, yet only gets 43mpg.
@@DarkLinkAD Well try finding me another full sized european sedan from the era that gets better gas mileage while having a 0-100 time of 10 seconds.
I remember the Peugeot XD engine, it was also used in some Mahindra trucks too.
This seriously needs a part 2 considering those heavier diesel engines with even lower specific power outputs. Take a Gardner 6LXB puttng out 188bhp (at its maximum state of tune) with 10.45 L displacement for instance.
I really really like your channel man, keep up the insanely good work!
The 57hp 1527cc was a v good unit with up to 78.5mpg and 100mph in the citroen ax. It was also just below 1549cc unlike most other diesels so qualified for almost half the uk road tax.
That dog at 3:15 is killing :D
sierra can drift with any engine :D lol
Why do you think I want one lol
okok so for the D24, the heads issues are only on the 240 Volvo and due to some errors in the measurements. They need good care otherwise they'll fail. But well maintained they are pretty much bulletproof, simply not a bulletproof as the really good redblocks
Hey, that's pretty great to me !
They are still fast to me, i thought they were really really super slow but they are actually doing a good job, and they are also reliable and economic
I wish i had one of those
Surprising how much more willing to rev NA diesels are than modern TDs.
It goes to show how amazing modern turbo diesels are. I am surprised that some of these smokers survived for so long. In the UK large truck diesels were transformed in the 70s by efficient turbos. Until then they had been grim.
my dad's friend had a chevy deisel in high school. they had to worry whether it would take them home from wherever they would go in it
You really need to consider torque as well as power when comparing diesels to petrol/gas engines! As you didn't mention any diesels from Mitsubishi, they can't be too sluggish! I just love the way my '95 Pajero J-top (soft-top swb) just cruises up hills without needing change down, but it is an inter-cooled turbo & the 2.5L is well matched to the weight of the vehicle (about 2/3 that of the wagon)!
Back in 2002 I had a citroen xantia for 2 years 1.9 I dont think that was turbo my only memory of it was how slow it was but engine was super reliable unlike the hydropnematic suspension that killed it.
I think a least power per liter motorcycle video would be great too.
The OM606 is actually the most powerful NA diesel engine ever built so far, by hp/liter. I've had an OM616, two OM617's, one OM604 and an OM605 and they are bulletproof engines, oil change in 15 minutes and you're ready for another 10000K!
tricked out PSATUD5, 0-100kmh is 16 seconds, nice job bro you really showed us
Its funny how the D24 is considered the best engine ever amongst Volvo lovers on the swedish countryside
Thank you very much, you helped me for my university project!
Really? Glad to be helpful then
I love a high revving petrol which rewards you for driving carefully but have driven a Land Rover with an ex-Humvee Detroit 6.2 and manual box. That thing will pull away in third/high without touching the throttle and the power just of idle is amazing. Of course if you rev it you don't really get any more than that but for towing and recovery work it's amazing. In fact I would go as far as to say it could do with an auto 'box, and I despise autos.
The Volkswagen D24 was originally a five cylinder engine it was Volvo which added the extra cylinder.
In Turbo Diesel form in the
Volvo 760 GLE it was the fast Diesel vehicle in the world at the time according to Volvo.
I wanted to know opposite, highest power per litre N/A diesel ?
I actually had a Peugeot 106 1.5 litre diesel, it was insanely economical !
OM606 is just the best. You can tuning this engine a lot. Actually OM606 with turbo is just so good.
The m21 sounds really nice
I have the VW SDI in my golf mk4 and soon imma replace it with a 2.0 gas engine
also this SDI that I have atm has 546,000 kilometers on it
3:13 HAPPY DIESEL-DOG SPOTTED!!! :D :D :D
4:57 even on a wet surface 67 hp isn't enough
Hey, most of the cars I used to have could have gone on that list. VW T3 1.6liter 50hp, VW Taro 2.4liter 80hp and Nissan Patrol 3.3 95hp. Can´t beat an understressed diesel engine for getting you there and back everytime.
Wow some of those diesels sounds so fucking good :)
Tell me about my Golf II 1.6 Diesel with 3 speed auto xD said to have had 55hp :P
Does yours start in cold weather?
@Blazenko Jakovljevic Non engine with a timing belt, can be the best engine ever.
Audi 80 b3 1,6 D 55hp too lol
Passed my driving test in a Fiesta diesel that lacked both a turbo and power steering. If you haven't driven one of these up a steep hill, you don't know pain 😂
What did they say in the fast and furious movie.
You could either tow it or push it across the finish line
I daily drive a VW T3 with the CS Engine (1.6L) NA Diesel. 50 PS, but feels like 5 :D
mitsubishi 4D55 NA 28.2 hp/L 2.346 cm3 and 65hp. moving a L300 pickup that regularly loads 1000kg with relative ease.
This literally made my day.
my dad drives a natural Aspirated 4zyl Diesel Mercedes C class from 1994 - it has 95hp. its enough to get from point a to point b. and it sounds like a fucking ship diesel from outside - but its really quiet inside!
AM general quickly dropped the GM manufactured Detroit engines for the superiorly built GE version due to reliability issues, typically found with GM.