Just ran into this video of planning my sled for about 2 years. That you included Paoson in this video was amazing, Ive been trying to get started on that same workbench for all this time
Glad I could help! I'm still working on editing the video of my build that I did after all this research. It should be out before the end of the month! Thanks for watching!
finally a review video i agree with. i actually sent a message to tools daily last week telling them that their video on crosscut sleds was missing some of the more important ones and here is a video a few days later showcasing a lot of the ones i mentioned lol. Glad you did it because i like the idea of people finding out about the great makers and growing the world of woodworking. I totally agree about paoson btw. His stuff is absolutely amazing and probably the most over engineered stuff ive ever seen. Hes beyond great
I love that you covered s number in one video. Better yet, there were 3 i hadn't found myself. Not important, but why do you keep using "left" for the right side and "right" for the left? Am I misting the wrong terms for my table?
Thank you! I'm using right in the left in the video as if I'm the table saw operator. But from the angle of the videos it's going to be opposite most of the time. That being said I am dyslexic and could have misspoken at some point. 😂
I built Tamar's version (because I too have a job site-sized saw) but rather than adding t-tracks to the base, I cut slots for the Microjig clamps. Works perfectly for me!
I started with Tamar’s plans. I made some minor adjustments and it been working great for me. I may use the microjig slots when I get ready to replace it.
Thank you! I took all of my favorite features from these videos and designed a sled with them in it. I've got the sled built but, i'm having trouble finding time to edit the video.
One sled that seems to get over looked is the one by John Heisz. It's very simple with two runners and a stop block. The reason I grab this one the most often is, it's very light which I store on the side of my table saw. I've built other sleds buts John's sled gets used 99% of the time.
I'll have to look that one up. I don't have a lot of room to store multiple sleds, so I built one with all the features. It's got some weight to it. I see the usefulness in having a smaller/simpler sled for small parts
Great video and you have a new subscriber. This is the best compilation of the best Table saw sleds. I have a long playlist of jigs and I could possibly delete all of the ones for the table saw sled and replace them with this video alone. Thank you for sharing and God bless.
btw, not to throw more ideas at you but for your crosscut sled, consider incorporating the microjig grooves into it and it may allow you to remove the fence and other ideas
The essential 'feature' missing from ALL of these sleds is the crown guard. Some even have no front and rear shroud guard. I use 6mm clear polycarbonate sheet- you can see everything, safely. They also all use a base, which both reduces the blade height, and negates the point of that expensive cast iron table. My sled has no base, the guide bars are flush with the surface.
Great video. Quick question... I'm BRAND spanking new to wood working...are cross cut sleds and miter gauges very similar or completely different accessories?
Thank you! Welcome to woodworking! Great question! They can preform similar functions. To start let's look at crosscut vs miter. A crosscut is a 90 degree cut. A miter is a cut other than 90 degrees such as 45 or 30 degrees. You can do a crosscut with a miter gauge but with larger work pieces a sled can be safer and more accurate since it supports more of the work piece. A miter gauge is more for cutting miters on smaller pieces. Crosscut sleds were originally to make 90 degree cuts on larger boards easier to handle but now some crosscut sleds also have jigs that can be attached for cutting miters.
Most miter gauges, especially the ones that come with tablesaws, don’t have a good way of holding the workpiece to the gauge. So you have to use your hand and the piece can slip. When I finally built a simple crosscut sled, which included a clamp for the workpiece, I was impressed by how safe and accurate the cut felt because everything was locked down. A lot of the sleds reviewed here have a lot of features and try to do everything. But it’s totally viable to make a few separate, simpler, lighter sleds as you need them.
I have a "jobsite" saw for occasional use, and I find the included miter gauge to be inadequate even for my meager skills. I researched sled builds for months before deciding not to build my own. Instead, bought a left-side Dubby Jr.
Nice Video - well done! I look forward to seeing your new sled after you have done so much research. Keep up the good work. I wood address you by your first name, but you don't give it in your video, might be something to think about when you start your video's. 🤩 Lowell
Thank you! I'm excited to build it and show y'all what I've come up with! There's so many times I'll watch these videos back and go man I forgot to include this or that. Thanks for the feedback about including my name. -Michael
Thank you! There were a lot of sleds to check out on UA-cam. I must have missed it. I'll have to look it up or if you have the link you can drop it here and I'll check it out!
Are you close to finishing your own sled based on the best of these ideas? I was curious to what you have ended up with as I'm getting ready to build my first one.
I'm actually finishing it this weekend! I'll start editing the video next week. My goal is to have the video out in two weeks but I tend to underestimate how long it takes to edit video...
@@jsodeman1 man, at the risk of sounding like a contractor, it's going to take just a little while longer. 😂 I forgot how much less time I have during our summer schedule when the kids are out of school.
@@jsodeman1 I did get the build plans done and up on my website. You can click on the link to my plans and look at the few screenshots I have there. That'll probably give you an idea of my design.
@@RedemptionWoodcraft I got impatient and bought your plans. Can you provide a link to where you got the aluminum rods? Seem to have a hard time finding them on Amazon without going to steel. Thanks! Still anxious to see your build video.
None of those sleds use microjig dovetail clamps. I would say all other clamping concepts for a sled are more or less outdated after those clamps arrived. No expensive t-tracks needed, no need to thicken the sled to accomodate t-tracks, way quicker to work with than other hold down systems. Also a feature to stop the sled in the outfeed table runner tracks to prevent it from travelling too far and cutting your fingers off at the exit side feels like a mandatory feature on a sled applying for a top position.
I just picked up some of the microjig dovetail clamps and they are awesome. When I was researching for this video I didn't find any sleds that had them and had forgot about seeing them on other jigs. If I end up building another sled I'll be using them. I subscribed to you channel and am going to have to check out your jigs!
@RedemptionWoodcraft Thanks! Took a few years for those clamps to take off and most of "the big ones" who's sleds you found seems late to the party so not strange you didn't find any. I don't go all in on microjigs products but these clamps and a cross pattern on the sled let you clamp anything in any angle anywhere. Some examples in their own video below. ua-cam.com/video/lnpYut2XgLQ/v-deo.htmlsi=s33Hfs3onosfcKKA P.s. If you like jigs I have a few of them yes. Recommend watching at least the first minutes of "the superjig" to see it's capabilities.
I guess paoson was the first one who made adjustable kerf . Atleast the first sled i saw with adjustable kerf was his and i made one myself based on his design and i’m glad i stole his design . Its the best sled i made till now
sweetie. take a breath. the five cut method is not the hardest thing anyone has ever had to do. everyone can do it. it takes about an hour. it makes your sled more accurate. just take the time to do the job right.
Interesting, but those are way too complicated And speaking of complicated, check out the "two cut method" for squaring up a sled fence. SO much easier!
Thanks for watching! That's what's awesome about about building your own sled. You can make it as simple or complex as you want depending on what you do as a woodworker. I have to look up the two cut method. Thank s for the tip.
Leaving a comment to hopefully make the UA-cam algorithm get your videos more views. Loved you selection - hard to pick just 7 out of the hundreds of crosscut sled videos that are on YT. I saw one years ago where the shape was changed from regular rectangle to make the final unit lighter. Took me quite a while to find it again. ua-cam.com/video/nXNp9S1JTGc/v-deo.html in case you haven't seen it. Not totally in favour of all his ideas other than to say that doing something different is worth trying. Evidently he got a lot of comments saying it wasn't a safe design so he made a second video to discuss those comments.
Thank you! There are a lot, I was originally going to do ten but I found after about 7 they all started to blur together. I haven't seen this one yet, I'll have to watch it. I am considering lightening my next sled by cutting it like 3x3 or CReeves. Haven't decided yet. The weight of my old sled didn't bother me.
A million screw holes to line up the fence? Really? 1 extra screw hole hardly qualifies as a "million". Good grief. And why would it need to be adjustable? Once it's square it should never need adjustment again; unless your adjustable fence slips.
Thanks for this video brother. I have seen some of those videos but not all of them.
Thank you for watching!
Just ran into this video of planning my sled for about 2 years. That you included Paoson in this video was amazing, Ive been trying to get started on that same workbench for all this time
Paoson has some awesome stuff! Thanks for watching!
I just starting to look at cross cut sled videos. Yours came up first. Thank for saving me a lot of time.
Glad I could help! I'm still working on editing the video of my build that I did after all this research. It should be out before the end of the month! Thanks for watching!
finally a review video i agree with. i actually sent a message to tools daily last week telling them that their video on crosscut sleds was missing some of the more important ones and here is a video a few days later showcasing a lot of the ones i mentioned lol. Glad you did it because i like the idea of people finding out about the great makers and growing the world of woodworking. I totally agree about paoson btw. His stuff is absolutely amazing and probably the most over engineered stuff ive ever seen. Hes beyond great
Thank you! I appreciate that!
Brilliant concept. Picked mine to build.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
PS Woodworking is the best!!! Not only for this project...
It's crazy how good his stuff is!
I love that you covered s number in one video. Better yet, there were 3 i hadn't found myself.
Not important, but why do you keep using "left" for the right side and "right" for the left? Am I misting the wrong terms for my table?
Thank you!
I'm using right in the left in the video as if I'm the table saw operator. But from the angle of the videos it's going to be opposite most of the time. That being said I am dyslexic and could have misspoken at some point. 😂
Nice video, thank you!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
A flip up stop is a must for a good sled.
Agreed! That's why I will never buy a KM stop for a crosscut sled
That's awesome. Referencing the "grippy surface" on number 1, could you just use grip tape like on stairs or truck running boards?
I don't see why you couldn't but, it might be too aggressive, some of that grip tape is almost sandpaper.
I built Tamar's version (because I too have a job site-sized saw) but rather than adding t-tracks to the base, I cut slots for the Microjig clamps. Works perfectly for me!
I've heard great things about the Microjig clamps!
Thanks for watching!
I started with Tamar’s plans. I made some minor adjustments and it been working great for me. I may use the microjig slots when I get ready to replace it.
My guy!
Jonathan! Thanks for watching and being kind enough to drop a comment!
Once you see mine you will be making you another one lol Great video!
Can't wait to see it!
This is a great video topic. Well done!
Thank you! I appreciate that!
I made a similar Paoson dewalt table on my tiny channel 😊 Very good comparison video excellent choice of too 5 😊😊
Thank you! I took all of my favorite features from these videos and designed a sled with them in it. I've got the sled built but, i'm having trouble finding time to edit the video.
One sled that seems to get over looked is the one by John Heisz. It's very simple with two runners and a stop block. The reason I grab this one the most often is, it's very light which I store on the side of my table saw. I've built other sleds buts John's sled gets used 99% of the time.
I'll have to look that one up.
I don't have a lot of room to store multiple sleds, so I built one with all the features. It's got some weight to it. I see the usefulness in having a smaller/simpler sled for small parts
Great video and you have a new subscriber. This is the best compilation of the best Table saw sleds. I have a long playlist of jigs and I could possibly delete all of the ones for the table saw sled and replace them with this video alone. Thank you for sharing and God bless.
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it!
btw, not to throw more ideas at you but for your crosscut sled, consider incorporating the microjig grooves into it and it may allow you to remove the fence and other ideas
Thought about that but I've already got a bunch of t-track I was going to use and set up the back fence the way that Kings did
The essential 'feature' missing from ALL of these sleds is the crown guard. Some even have no front and rear shroud guard. I use 6mm clear polycarbonate sheet- you can see everything, safely.
They also all use a base, which both reduces the blade height, and negates the point of that expensive cast iron table. My sled has no base, the guide bars are flush with the surface.
All great and cool to watch but all too engineered for my simple needs! Thank you
That's what's awesome about crosscut sleds, you can build it to your needs!
Thank you for watching!
Great video. Quick question... I'm BRAND spanking new to wood working...are cross cut sleds and miter gauges very similar or completely different accessories?
Thank you! Welcome to woodworking! Great question!
They can preform similar functions. To start let's look at crosscut vs miter.
A crosscut is a 90 degree cut. A miter is a cut other than 90 degrees such as 45 or 30 degrees.
You can do a crosscut with a miter gauge but with larger work pieces a sled can be safer and more accurate since it supports more of the work piece. A miter gauge is more for cutting miters on smaller pieces. Crosscut sleds were originally to make 90 degree cuts on larger boards easier to handle but now some crosscut sleds also have jigs that can be attached for cutting miters.
@@RedemptionWoodcraft Wow.. thank you for that detailed response. Much appreciated. You have a new subscriber!
Most miter gauges, especially the ones that come with tablesaws, don’t have a good way of holding the workpiece to the gauge. So you have to use your hand and the piece can slip. When I finally built a simple crosscut sled, which included a clamp for the workpiece, I was impressed by how safe and accurate the cut felt because everything was locked down.
A lot of the sleds reviewed here have a lot of features and try to do everything. But it’s totally viable to make a few separate, simpler, lighter sleds as you need them.
@@MaxG628 Thanks for that information. I bought a secondary miter gauge but looks like I’ll be building my own soon. Thanks again
I have a "jobsite" saw for occasional use, and I find the included miter gauge to be inadequate even for my meager skills. I researched sled builds for months before deciding not to build my own. Instead, bought a left-side Dubby Jr.
Nice! That looks like a cool sled. I finally finished mine. That video should be dropping this weekend.
Nice Video - well done! I look forward to seeing your new sled after you have done so much research. Keep up the good work. I wood address you by your first name, but you don't give it in your video, might be something to think about when you start your video's. 🤩
Lowell
Thank you! I'm excited to build it and show y'all what I've come up with!
There's so many times I'll watch these videos back and go man I forgot to include this or that. Thanks for the feedback about including my name.
-Michael
Did you consider Nick Ferry's crosscut sled and it just didn't make the cut (no pun intended)? I just found your channel. Keep up the great work.
Thank you!
There were a lot of sleds to check out on UA-cam. I must have missed it. I'll have to look it up or if you have the link you can drop it here and I'll check it out!
You need to look at Matthias Wendell. He is an actual engineer and has some of the best approaches to his woodworking out there.
Thanks for the suggestion! I went and subscribed to his channel so I can watch it later!
Are you close to finishing your own sled based on the best of these ideas? I was curious to what you have ended up with as I'm getting ready to build my first one.
I'm actually finishing it this weekend! I'll start editing the video next week. My goal is to have the video out in two weeks but I tend to underestimate how long it takes to edit video...
You have to be close to finishing your the video by now.
@@jsodeman1 man, at the risk of sounding like a contractor, it's going to take just a little while longer. 😂 I forgot how much less time I have during our summer schedule when the kids are out of school.
@@jsodeman1 I did get the build plans done and up on my website. You can click on the link to my plans and look at the few screenshots I have there. That'll probably give you an idea of my design.
@@RedemptionWoodcraft I got impatient and bought your plans. Can you provide a link to where you got the aluminum rods? Seem to have a hard time finding them on Amazon without going to steel. Thanks! Still anxious to see your build video.
None of those sleds use microjig dovetail clamps. I would say all other clamping concepts for a sled are more or less outdated after those clamps arrived. No expensive t-tracks needed, no need to thicken the sled to accomodate t-tracks, way quicker to work with than other hold down systems. Also a feature to stop the sled in the outfeed table runner tracks to prevent it from travelling too far and cutting your fingers off at the exit side feels like a mandatory feature on a sled applying for a top position.
I just picked up some of the microjig dovetail clamps and they are awesome. When I was researching for this video I didn't find any sleds that had them and had forgot about seeing them on other jigs. If I end up building another sled I'll be using them.
I subscribed to you channel and am going to have to check out your jigs!
@RedemptionWoodcraft Thanks! Took a few years for those clamps to take off and most of "the big ones" who's sleds you found seems late to the party so not strange you didn't find any. I don't go all in on microjigs products but these clamps and a cross pattern on the sled let you clamp anything in any angle anywhere. Some examples in their own video below. ua-cam.com/video/lnpYut2XgLQ/v-deo.htmlsi=s33Hfs3onosfcKKA
P.s. If you like jigs I have a few of them yes. Recommend watching at least the first minutes of "the superjig" to see it's capabilities.
I guess paoson was the first one who made adjustable kerf . Atleast the first sled i saw with adjustable kerf was his and i made one myself based on his design and i’m glad i stole his design . Its the best sled i made till now
Not sure who did it first but it's a great idea!
Thanks for watching!
re: lightening up the sled: I saw someone cut holes in their base, and then apply a solid piece of laminate on the top.
That's an interesting idea to get rid of some weight.
Or remove the base altogether. Then you can use that cast iron table you spent so much on. All you need are metal guide rails and a front and back.
sweetie. take a breath. the five cut method is not the hardest thing anyone has ever had to do. everyone can do it. it takes about an hour. it makes your sled more accurate. just take the time to do the job right.
Interesting, but those are way too complicated And speaking of complicated, check out the "two cut method" for squaring up a sled fence. SO much easier!
Thanks for watching!
That's what's awesome about about building your own sled. You can make it as simple or complex as you want depending on what you do as a woodworker.
I have to look up the two cut method. Thank s for the tip.
One day you americans will discover sliding tables saws
They're over here. Just to big for my shop.
Thanks for watching
FYI, phenolic is pronounced fen-all-ick.
Thank you for that info.
Leaving a comment to hopefully make the UA-cam algorithm get your videos more views.
Loved you selection - hard to pick just 7 out of the hundreds of crosscut sled videos that are on YT.
I saw one years ago where the shape was changed from regular rectangle to make the final unit lighter.
Took me quite a while to find it again. ua-cam.com/video/nXNp9S1JTGc/v-deo.html in case you haven't seen it.
Not totally in favour of all his ideas other than to say that doing something different is worth trying. Evidently he got a lot of comments saying it wasn't a safe design so he made a second video to discuss those comments.
Thank you!
There are a lot, I was originally going to do ten but I found after about 7 they all started to blur together.
I haven't seen this one yet, I'll have to watch it. I am considering lightening my next sled by cutting it like 3x3 or CReeves. Haven't decided yet. The weight of my old sled didn't bother me.
A million screw holes to line up the fence? Really? 1 extra screw hole hardly qualifies as a "million". Good grief. And why would it need to be adjustable? Once it's square it should never need adjustment again; unless your adjustable fence slips.
complation? LOL Dude it's pronounced Comp IL ATION. You already lost me.
What can I say, Hooked On Phonics didn't work for me.
Wow. You must be perfect. 🙄