What a wonderful job by all the people associated with this project to get this airplane back in the air. I can't imagine the amount of time effort and money it took to get to this point. I last flew 637 in the RCAF on 28 Feb 1964 , 52 years ago, while training at Cold Lake Alberta. What an airplane!
Thanks for your service Gord. What an experience to have flown the missle with a man in it. The climb out depicted in the video was no slouch, using the previous F-16 as a comparison.
Actually, the F-104's "howling" wasn't because of the J-79 engine, but because of the inlet design on the F-104. If you notice other J-79 powered aircraft, like the F-4 don't howl.
It's from the exhaust/AB duct. All J-79's howl to a degree but the 104 is he most recognized for it. It is specifically the exhaust nozzles with the short "turkey feathers". Almost all Starfighters had them as did F-4C's and older. The long nozzle like the F-104S, F-4E, etc don't howl like this. Its the shape of the convergent-divergent shape and cooling air inlet combo that makes that glorious noise. Even with the older Phantoms having the short nozzle the way cooling air is drawn in is different and it sounds different.
Thank you for letting the world enjoy this project. Hope to see you at airshows in Europe. I flew the F 104 until 1972 in the RDAF ....best time in my life! KER
ua-cam.com/video/gAFFD_D3Ko0/v-deo.html Enclosed is a link to newly upload of the original F-104G's flying from Aalborg from mid 60's. The film is recorded by pilots and technicians in squadron 726 in summer 1969. Originally a "silent movie", but dubbed by use of the sound from CF-104D 637 and speak by Mogens Viggo Hansen (pilot name MOV). Thank you very much for the wonderful GE J79 sound! //Anders Viggo Hansen
Since My childhood i Have Been obsessed with F-104, theres no other plane to rival its beauty, only P-38 And P-51 come close. Can you tell us how was it to fly? Something specific, its high speed manouverability For example? To My knowledge F-104 was quite an agile Fighter when flying over mach 1? Did you ever try its turning limits?
The sound of my childhood. Every day I heard that sound, the low passages, the sonic booms. Every time I hear this sound, I think back to those magical moments
@@AndreaTemporale Mi pare tu sia italiano, ti rispondo in italiano. Io abitavo a circa 1 ora da Villafranca e ad 1 ora da Istrana, in un paesino della pianura padana. Casualmente però era la direttrice dove passavano, praticamente ogni giorno, voli militari. I più numerosi erano 104G di Villafranca e i 104S di Istrana. La discriminante era il rumore, se emettevano l'ululato famoso erano i G, altrimenti sapevi che erano gli S. Passavano bassi, molto bassi e i bang sonici erano quasi quotidiani. Con il tempo i voli diminuirono e, nei primi anni 2000, vedevi solo Tornado ed AMX e con sempre meno frequenza (da ogni giorno, a poche volte a settimana, fino a poche volte al mese). Ma a fine anni 80, primi 90, passava di tutto, oltre ai nostri, vedevi F-16, A-10, elicotteri vari, aerei da trasporto, le quote operative erano sempre basse, era bellissimo.
I grew up on the base in Cold Lake, Alberta. That jet, the CF-5 and the T-33 were the aircraft in operation. You could tell each jet by sound. So awesome!
Someone mentioned more smoke. Let's examine that a bit. There are some that may believe that it is purely "old" technology versus newer technology. It isn't that simple. Obviously everyone who looks at this aircraft admires it's design and it actually looks like it's fast. The J 79, developed by general electric in the early 1950s is a turbojet design, and it has an axial compressor with variable geometry compressor blades. In order to achieve the ratio of 12 to 1 for compressor efficiency for the US Air Force, water was injected which raised the thrust. These high-performance engines were designed to operate well above the speed of sound, actually at Mach 2. Have you ever seen a fuel burning funny car when it idols? It shakes and it burns very rich and you can smell it. But when you hit the gas, the engine purrs. This is what you have with a J 79, it is a higher performance, balls to the walls engine and at the speed you are seeing it in this video, it's like the funny car thats idling. when it idols, it's smokes a bit. It was never meant to be flown around a circuit at 350 kn, you know? I'll tell you another thing, do you know one of the reasons why that F-16 is shadowing this aircraft? Well, guess what kind of engine a F/16 has in it? You guessed it, variant of the original J 79 the J 79 Dash 19. I think someone in the comments mention that the F-16 might be annoying, well on the first flight of a high-performance aircraft you would want to have a Chase plane and the only one that could actually keep up with it was,,, you guessed it. The J 79 was developed by general electric not so much for the starfighter but for the strategic air command to have a Mach-2 bomber, and that was the B 58 hustler. Also to share this engine, the ubiquitous MDF/4 phantom II, also the A-5 Vigilant
My father was a mecanic in the Dutch airforce. As it so happened, those magnificent Kelly creations flew over our house quit a bit at very low level. Unforgettable, it's pure magic.
A friend of mine told an interesting story from a few years ago. Being out of active duty in the USAF and not yet employed as a civilian pilot he was in the (air natl guard, I think ) and flew an ancient transport or tanker, whatever was available to get the air time. One day he was ready to go, but he had to wait behind 2 regular air force people in F106's, while they waited for their avionics to warm up so they could go. Then somebody else who apparently had enough rank so he did not have to wait came out of the hanger in an F-104, passed the 3 waiting planes, got off the ground right away and went right straight up for quite a considerable distance. My friend enjoyed watching the 2 F-106 men, obviously much impressed, watching their colleague keep on going up in his 104. IMHO, even though the 104 may have not been the easiest plane to fly, the very essence of being a fighter plane is to get up there where the action is so you can do some damage before the enemy gets the job done and goes home, and the 104 seemed to be good at that. Today we do not have to worry so much about being easy to fly; I understand that the space shuttle was impossible for a human to fly without the computer, because by the time the human noticed that a correction was necessary, the shuttle did not have the ability to get back. Seems to me the people designing the next generation of planes, which will be more maneuverable because they will not need to limit the G forces, not having a human pilot, will probably learn a lot from the 104. :-)
I lived near CFB Cold Lake Alberta Canada. The Starfigher would sneak up at you if you didn’t see it coming, low level-high speed, and scare the crap out of you until you got your senses back, then it was complete admiration.
My Dad Was part of the 58th Tactical Fighter Training Wing, Fighting 69th,back at Luke AFB,IN Pheonx,AZ in THE 70S,I grow up with this plane,man it brings back memories,THANK YOU
Congratulations!! I used to work on F104's in the RNLAF and it still is my favorite airplane, for sure I 'll do anything to see one flying again, hopefully it will join some airshows!
A great big "Well done!" to all involved with this project! I have great memories of the Starfighters at Prestwick Airport when I was a kid at Prestwick High School (now Prestwick Academy) from 1967-1971. Scottish Aviation had the contract to perform maintenance on the Starfighters in Europe in those days, so they were a very regular sight. These days, Prestwick's airport code is PIK, but back in those days it was PWK. In my head, I can still hear the VHF beacon broadcasting it in morse - di-dah-dah-dit, di-dah-dah, dah-di-da! Our teachers always had to pause what they were saying when the F104's took off, as the school was so close to the runway. I'd also forgotten just how much black smoke those J79 engines chucked out at low speed though. We always saw plenty of it when they were coming in to land. When they opened them up though, the exhaust was pretty clean as Douglas Shreve says in his comment. We used to see them take off and go vertical over the sea, from just past the end of the runway, usually in pairs, but sometimes three at a time taking off together in formation along the runway. With the afterburners on and the power on to go vertical, all you saw was the heat trail from the rear with no black smoke. The only time that I got really close to a Starfighter was at one of the Prestwick Air Shows, when they had one out on display. I was amazed at just how thin and short the wings were.
Growing up living on Air Force Bases with a dad who was an Air Force pilot in the early 60s, this sound really brings back memories. Thanks for sharing.
Just fantastic! Great job to you and the team that restored this. I was just in Beaune, France and saw several of these derelict in a collection. It is amazing to see one flying. Thanks for making the video!
Smokie traills and howling nozzles....i love it! Nothing comes close to the 104. Nice to see it in the air again! The 104 deserves it, cause it is a true legend.
What an awesome video. I really get the chills from all these noises! Also very interesting to see how fast the F16 and how slow the f104 looks when they both travel at the same pace with their gear down. Truly a flying rocket ;)
Awsome footage. Awsome sound. Simply accelerating. Congratulations to Starfighterens venner who made this come true, and to the pilot. I wonder if he got any sleep that night.
Great video! I had a private tour at the aviation museum at Gardermoen, and was allowed to climb into 469. Walked around with a stupid grin on my face for the rest of the day.
So cool to see and hear again. Brings me back to my younger days. Could easely tell what would take off from Kjeller, either the f-104 or a f5, first the destinct howl, than the roumble, making the vindows vibrating like hell :)
i grew up as US expat with the F-104 flying around overhead. Would drown out my dad's sermons (church was next to Taoyuan AB)... there's nothing like the distinctive howl of the Star Fighter :)
Great scenery.......by hey ! Who cares about scenery...Congratulations on giving this mighty bird wings again.Made me smile when you see both in the sky from afar...just which one with the nice smokey tail is 637 ?World needs more classic jets.Thank you.
The biggest problem with the early GE J79 engines was its smoky exhaust with later ones not being as bad. I wonder how difficult it would be to install a more modern F100-PW-229 engine which has a lot more thrust, is lighter in weight and has a smaller diameter?
Not much point... the 104 was limited by the skin temperatures on the fiberglass nacelles at the engine intakes. The Canadians replaced them with stainless steel ones to do a record attempt in 1967 for the Canadian Centennial celebrations and managed to get another 200 knots out of it before they had to worry about other parts melting too. It already set time to climb and altitude records unmodified (and modified ones got to 120,000 feet and Mach 2.2)
F104 is the most stunning aircraft ever build. And she is the boss in the air! The pilot who flew this, told that when he gave a little trottle and accelerate, the F16 did not manage to follow
Maybe, but you can also tell who is the boss, by watching who is most aggressiv when accelerate. A F104 go faster, higher and climb more aggressive than F16.
kosh1 done forget, the starfighter has a really high stall speed. probably the most of any fighter in Nato history. by its nature it took off and landed at a much higher rate of speed...plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
SanFranciscoBay The sound is fun here, but I live close to an Air Force Base. The F-16s are bad enough! When on the phone, both parties know to stop talking until the flight passes over and heads west! The 104 always struck me as more of a rocket than a jet! Every year when the usual holidays in summer brought the airshows and airplanes to the air base nearby. The biggest treat for me was to actually get inside some of the planes, and even sit in the cockpit of some planes! A young boy or teenager sitting in a legendary plane was pretty close to whatever a drug high must be like. Since I've never used drugs, I'm just assuming, but I'd bet those of more worldly experience will back me up. I'll probably never qualify for pilot licensing and training due to health issues, but I can at least sit behind the pilot. I've never sat behind in a jet, but I will find a way, even if I have to go to Russia and pay a fortune!
Hey question for all you guys who worked on them. Why do they seem to run so rich? That trail of smoke is like a steam train. Most beautiful fighter ever.
Absolutely fantastic...!!! Is this aircraft privately owned? And what's the purpose of flying her again? It must be costing someone a fortune to fly such a complex aircraft again....
Andrew Ward there is a handful still flying. they are relatively basic. compared to modern day fighters. it's probably the last fighter a private person could own. although there is a harrier that is privately owned.
Ronald Tartaglia . Thanks for your reply, it is wonderful to see her flying again. I merely asked as a licensed aircraft maintenance engineer, ex RAF, I handled a few 104 starfighters when the came to the UK on exercise, including Norwegian 104s. I remember fondly replenishing fuels and oils and remember the hydraulic service panel that dropped down at the rear to facilitate easy replenishment of gases in the hydraulic accumulators. Is this aircraft available to visit? I love to come and see it and the guys that did this wonderful job. I own my very own Pacific Hunter and rebuild the black Hawker Hunter that is resident in Norway, WV 318.....
What a wonderful job by all the people associated with this project to get this airplane back in the air. I can't imagine the amount of time effort and money it took to get to this point. I last flew 637 in the RCAF on 28 Feb 1964 , 52 years ago, while training at Cold Lake Alberta. What an airplane!
Sir, do you have any patches remained on your closet from that era?
Thanks for your service Gord. What an experience to have flown the missle with a man in it.
The climb out depicted in the video was no slouch, using the previous F-16 as a comparison.
Gordon Price that's incredible that you flew the exact same jet.
That black smoke tail and that howling sound. So cute! Thanks for sharing
F-104 sound is the best engine noise ever (and thanks you don´t put any music on the video so we can enjoy it)
1:39 that j79 whistle sound when it's build thrust. Best sound turbojet engine ever. It sound like a living creature.
Actually, the F-104's "howling" wasn't because of the J-79 engine, but because of the inlet design on the F-104. If you notice other J-79 powered aircraft, like the F-4 don't howl.
Every bird that had the J79 in it made that smoky howl F4, A5, B58 and the 104
It's from the exhaust/AB duct. All J-79's howl to a degree but the 104 is he most recognized for it. It is specifically the exhaust nozzles with the short "turkey feathers". Almost all Starfighters had them as did F-4C's and older. The long nozzle like the F-104S, F-4E, etc don't howl like this. Its the shape of the convergent-divergent shape and cooling air inlet combo that makes that glorious noise. Even with the older Phantoms having the short nozzle the way cooling air is drawn in is different and it sounds different.
Thank you for letting the world enjoy this project. Hope to see you at airshows in Europe.
I flew the F 104 until 1972 in the RDAF ....best time in my life!
KER
search for starfighter sola f.example. To see this summers event from this wonderfull craft
ua-cam.com/video/gAFFD_D3Ko0/v-deo.html
Enclosed is a link to newly upload of the original F-104G's flying from Aalborg from mid 60's.
The film is recorded by pilots and technicians in squadron 726 in summer 1969.
Originally a "silent movie", but dubbed by use of the sound from CF-104D 637 and speak by Mogens Viggo Hansen (pilot name MOV).
Thank you very much for the wonderful GE J79 sound!
//Anders Viggo Hansen
Since My childhood i Have Been obsessed with F-104, theres no other plane to rival its beauty, only P-38 And P-51 come close.
Can you tell us how was it to fly? Something specific, its high speed manouverability For example? To My knowledge F-104 was quite an agile Fighter when flying over mach 1? Did you ever try its turning limits?
The sound of my childhood. Every day I heard that sound, the low passages, the sonic booms. Every time I hear this sound, I think back to those magical moments
Yes, yes. Lived next to the JaboG 32 on the Lechfeld for 40 years. 😃
Where?
Istrana, cervia, Grosseto?
@@AndreaTemporale Mi pare tu sia italiano, ti rispondo in italiano. Io abitavo a circa 1 ora da Villafranca e ad 1 ora da Istrana, in un paesino della pianura padana. Casualmente però era la direttrice dove passavano, praticamente ogni giorno, voli militari. I più numerosi erano 104G di Villafranca e i 104S di Istrana. La discriminante era il rumore, se emettevano l'ululato famoso erano i G, altrimenti sapevi che erano gli S. Passavano bassi, molto bassi e i bang sonici erano quasi quotidiani. Con il tempo i voli diminuirono e, nei primi anni 2000, vedevi solo Tornado ed AMX e con sempre meno frequenza (da ogni giorno, a poche volte a settimana, fino a poche volte al mese). Ma a fine anni 80, primi 90, passava di tutto, oltre ai nostri, vedevi F-16, A-10, elicotteri vari, aerei da trasporto, le quote operative erano sempre basse, era bellissimo.
@@lucarinaldo83 sisi italiano, meglio dire friulano 😅
@@lucarinaldo83 tornado immagino da ghedi
Fantastic footage. No talk, no music. Just awesomness and sound from hell
I grew up on the base in Cold Lake, Alberta. That jet, the CF-5 and the T-33 were the aircraft in operation. You could tell each jet by sound. So awesome!
Wonderful, I can't get enough of such shots. STARFIGTHER THE MOST BEAUTIFUL BIRD IN THE WORLD FOR ME.How I miss him.
The sound of freedom! How I missed it! Great job, congrats from Southern Germany!
All you folks that worked on this wonderful project should be VERY Proud ! Well done !
A great plane is a great plane. After 70 years, still looks awesome.
Someone mentioned more smoke. Let's examine that a bit. There are some that may believe that it is purely "old" technology versus newer technology. It isn't that simple. Obviously everyone who looks at this aircraft admires it's design and it actually looks like it's fast. The J 79, developed by general electric in the early 1950s is a turbojet design, and it has an axial compressor with variable geometry compressor blades. In order to achieve the ratio of 12 to 1 for compressor efficiency for the US Air Force, water was injected which raised the thrust. These high-performance engines were designed to operate well above the speed of sound, actually at Mach 2. Have you ever seen a fuel burning funny car when it idols? It shakes and it burns very rich and you can smell it. But when you hit the gas, the engine purrs. This is what you have with a J 79, it is a higher performance, balls to the walls engine and at the speed you are seeing it in this video, it's like the funny car thats idling. when it idols, it's smokes a bit. It was never meant to be flown around a circuit at 350 kn, you know? I'll tell you another thing, do you know one of the reasons why that F-16 is shadowing this aircraft? Well, guess what kind of engine a F/16 has in it? You guessed it, variant of the original J 79 the J 79 Dash 19. I think someone in the comments mention that the F-16 might be annoying, well on the first flight of a high-performance aircraft you would want to have a Chase plane and the only one that could actually keep up with it was,,, you guessed it. The J 79 was developed by general electric not so much for the starfighter but for the strategic air command to have a Mach-2 bomber, and that was the B 58 hustler. Also to share this engine, the ubiquitous MDF/4 phantom II, also the A-5 Vigilant
"it actually looks like it's fast." Very much so, they called it the missle with a man in it.
Good disertation there Doug, you know your stuff.
Well, the F-16 uses a PW F100 engine.
F16's use a F100-220 or a GE unit.
The XB-70 flew with a variant of the J79 also.
My father was a mecanic in the Dutch airforce. As it so happened, those magnificent Kelly creations flew over our house quit a bit at very low level. Unforgettable, it's pure magic.
A friend of mine told an interesting story from a few years ago. Being out of active duty in the USAF and not yet employed as a civilian pilot he was in the (air natl guard, I think ) and flew an ancient transport or tanker, whatever was available to get the air time. One day he was ready to go, but he had to wait behind 2 regular air force people in F106's, while they waited for their avionics to warm up so they could go. Then somebody else who apparently had enough rank so he did not have to wait came out of the hanger in an F-104, passed the 3 waiting planes, got off the ground right away and went right straight up for quite a considerable distance. My friend enjoyed watching the 2 F-106 men, obviously much impressed, watching their colleague keep on going up in his 104. IMHO, even though the 104 may have not been the easiest plane to fly, the very essence of being a fighter plane is to get up there where the action is so you can do some damage before the enemy gets the job done and goes home, and the 104 seemed to be good at that. Today we do not have to worry so much about being easy to fly; I understand that the space shuttle was impossible for a human to fly without the computer, because by the time the human noticed that a correction was necessary, the shuttle did not have the ability to get back. Seems to me the people designing the next generation of planes, which will be more maneuverable because they will not need to limit the G forces, not having a human pilot, will probably learn a lot from the 104. :-)
I lived near CFB Cold Lake Alberta Canada. The Starfigher would sneak up at you if you didn’t see it coming, low level-high speed, and scare the crap out of you until you got your senses back, then it was complete admiration.
My Dad Was part of the 58th Tactical Fighter Training Wing, Fighting 69th,back at Luke AFB,IN Pheonx,AZ in THE 70S,I grow up with this plane,man it brings back memories,THANK YOU
Congratulations!! I used to work on F104's in the RNLAF and it still is my favorite airplane, for sure I 'll do anything to see one flying again, hopefully it will join some airshows!
A great big "Well done!" to all involved with this project! I have great memories of the Starfighters at Prestwick Airport when I was a kid at Prestwick High School (now Prestwick Academy) from 1967-1971. Scottish Aviation had the contract to perform maintenance on the Starfighters in Europe in those days, so they were a very regular sight. These days, Prestwick's airport code is PIK, but back in those days it was PWK. In my head, I can still hear the VHF beacon broadcasting it in morse - di-dah-dah-dit, di-dah-dah, dah-di-da! Our teachers always had to pause what they were saying when the F104's took off, as the school was so close to the runway. I'd also forgotten just how much black smoke those J79 engines chucked out at low speed though. We always saw plenty of it when they were coming in to land. When they opened them up though, the exhaust was pretty clean as Douglas Shreve says in his comment. We used to see them take off and go vertical over the sea, from just past the end of the runway, usually in pairs, but sometimes three at a time taking off together in formation along the runway. With the afterburners on and the power on to go vertical, all you saw was the heat trail from the rear with no black smoke. The only time that I got really close to a Starfighter was at one of the Prestwick Air Shows, when they had one out on display. I was amazed at just how thin and short the wings were.
Growing up living on Air Force Bases with a dad who was an Air Force pilot in the early 60s, this sound really brings back memories. Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely wonderful to watch!
Thank you so so much!
Just fantastic! Great job to you and the team that restored this. I was just in Beaune, France and saw several of these derelict in a collection. It is amazing to see one flying. Thanks for making the video!
F104. Absolutely my favorite plane, period! Haven’t enjoyed watching something this exciting since my wife dressed up like a maid. Wow to both.
You wisely chose a nice quiet spot so the sound comes out great! (despite the annoying F-16 hanging around). Thanks!
Lol ! Agreed.
Smokie traills and howling nozzles....i love it!
Nothing comes close to the 104. Nice to see it in the air again!
The 104 deserves it, cause it is a true legend.
Amazing footage! Thanks for sharing and kudos to all who made this happen.
Thank you for sharing. Thats an impressive lens/ the distinctive howl of the 104 and j-79
great job filming this exciting moment!
The sound, the smoke, THE shape ...... it takes me back :)
That was so cool to see and hear, just WOW!
Thanks for sharing Mr. Stranden!
Fantastic sights and sounds!
Beautiful video. Thank so much
Just found this vid on here, fantastic footage, many thanks :)
Sounds amazing
What an awesome video. I really get the chills from all these noises!
Also very interesting to see how fast the F16 and how slow the f104 looks when they both travel at the same pace with their gear down. Truly a flying rocket ;)
Great stuff. Love the sound!!
Thanks for posting! Fantastic!
Congratulations! Great work Norway!
Roar of the F-104. Awesome video 👍👌👏
what is amazing is that that F- 104 is 60 years old, but it would still smoke that F- 16. literally and figuratively.😁
Awsome footage. Awsome sound. Simply accelerating. Congratulations to Starfighterens venner who made this come true, and to the pilot. I wonder if he got any sleep that night.
LOVE its looks and whistling roar. "A missile with a man in it." I envy those who flew it. Beautiful.
Awesome video!
I still miss the howl of the Starfighter.
Greetings from The Netherlands
Love that primal howl of that engine at part throttle.
Great video! I had a private tour at the aviation museum at Gardermoen, and was allowed to climb into 469. Walked around with a stupid grin on my face for the rest of the day.
Kjempebra filmet! For en fantastisk begivenhet. Skulle så gjerne ha vært der.
So cool to see and hear again. Brings me back to my younger days. Could easely tell what would take off from Kjeller, either the f-104 or a f5, first the destinct howl, than the roumble, making the vindows vibrating like hell :)
Love the sound of the J-79! Dad wasca 104 IP in the 60's. He still can't make up his mind which was his favorite: F-86 or F-104.
Awesome video!
Ah The Haul! Love that sound
Great landing vid of the 104
i grew up as US expat with the F-104 flying around overhead. Would drown out my dad's sermons (church was next to Taoyuan AB)... there's nothing like the distinctive howl of the Star Fighter :)
Thanks for share.
Best plane and best sound.
i swear this video have the longest freaking starfighter howl ever, lol
absolutely fantastic
My two favorite jets ever good stuff
incredible sound of this starfighter in the air bij Bodo .
Great scenery.......by hey ! Who cares about scenery...Congratulations on giving this mighty bird wings again.Made me smile when you see both in the sky from afar...just which one with the nice smokey tail is 637 ?World needs more classic jets.Thank you.
Awesome,just Awesome!!!
Absolutely fantastic video, i turn the volume of my speakers very loud, that the table gets in vibration
beautiful
helt fantastisk video. gleder med til tirsdag da den skal til torp
It looks like the Starfighter Pilot, try, landing Maneuver and the F-16 Pilot watch what he do ;-) nice Video
You can see the tip vortices in the exhaust.
The Starfighter howl is there too.
this howl like a wolf at 1:39 , it sounds so good.....
what a noise :D i love it
Noisy and loud like a hysterical tiger
Fantastico sempre bellissimo unico❤
It's an F-16 that takes off in the beginning of the video. The Starfighter folllows after that.
Wow, what a camera..! Out of focus the most important moments! Superb!
Gotta get one for myself!
You can hear the distinctive PW nozzle actuator wheeeeeeeet! on the F-16 as it idles to slow down on approach as it chases the 104 too.
I heard that too!
Used to get Canadian f104s at manston in UK occasionally
Wish they still had the F-16/J79 prototype still flying
1:37 Holy shit the entire takeoff is just beautiful
Wow great!
32TFS Aviation Mach 2 coffin.
I wanna see that thing at airpower in austria - would be awesome!
On the radio prior to take off, the F16 Pilot said to the F104 Pilot "Please don't make me look slow."
i was in this Aircraft F-TF-194G..............in Greece.........wowwwww..........the sound!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)
Jikes that must have been an exiting and slightly terrifying test flight....
You can always tell if the fighter is older, they leave black trails behind them.
Looks like his wingman is struggling to stay in formation when he adds power. :D
The biggest problem with the early GE J79 engines was its smoky exhaust with later ones not being as bad. I wonder how difficult it would be to install a more modern F100-PW-229 engine which has a lot more thrust, is lighter in weight and has a smaller diameter?
Not much point... the 104 was limited by the skin temperatures on the fiberglass nacelles at the engine intakes. The Canadians replaced them with stainless steel ones to do a record attempt in 1967 for the Canadian Centennial celebrations and managed to get another 200 knots out of it before they had to worry about other parts melting too. It already set time to climb and altitude records unmodified (and modified ones got to 120,000 feet and Mach 2.2)
F104 is the most stunning aircraft ever build. And she is the boss in the air! The pilot who flew this, told that when he gave a little trottle and accelerate, the F16 did not manage to follow
kosh1 of course not. the f 104 is a beast.
kosh1 I would love to see a race between f104, F4,f16 first to 600 wins
Is it another F16 you see in the backround at 6:09?
WOW!
You can tell which one is the newer """ecofriendly""" by the smoke trail. :)
Maybe, but you can also tell who is the boss, by watching who is most aggressiv when accelerate. A F104 go faster, higher and climb more aggressive than F16.
Probably because it was just following the star of the show at a leisure pace. If shit had to go down, it would be another story.
Deses: the starfighter is faster. leave it to Kelly Johnson. he was a bad ass.😎
kosh1 done forget, the starfighter has a really high stall speed. probably the most of any fighter in Nato history. by its nature it took off and landed at a much higher rate of speed...plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
interesting to see how much dirtier the older jets contrails are in comparison to the F16
The howling J-79
As my grandpa said, it's a jet engine with a cockpit and wings. I'd like to fly it.
Wooooooohhhhwwwwww! :-)
The security across the river was keeping an eye on you
Anyone notice @ 6:27 and 9:09 the turbulence generated by the wing also shape the exhaust smoke into a wing lol
3:38 the fly over sound of the F104.
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SanFranciscoBay The sound is fun here, but I live close to an Air Force Base. The F-16s are bad enough! When on the phone, both parties know to stop talking until the flight passes over and heads west!
The 104 always struck me as more of a rocket than a jet! Every year when the usual holidays in summer brought the airshows and airplanes to the air base nearby. The biggest treat for me was to actually get inside some of the planes, and even sit in the cockpit of some planes! A young boy or teenager sitting in a legendary plane was pretty close to whatever a drug high must be like. Since I've never used drugs, I'm just assuming, but I'd bet those of more worldly experience will back me up. I'll probably never qualify for pilot licensing and training due to health issues, but I can at least sit behind the pilot. I've never sat behind in a jet, but I will find a way, even if I have to go to Russia and pay a fortune!
The sound of the 70’s at airshows and Soesterberg The Netherlands, camp new Amsterdam..wolfhounds..F15’s
That howl!😁😁😁
the sound turbine from the hell!
That beautiful telltale howl at 1:39 says it all. Here comes a Starfighter!
Hey question for all you guys who worked on them. Why do they seem to run so rich? That trail of smoke is like a steam train. Most beautiful fighter ever.
Absolutely fantastic...!!! Is this aircraft privately owned? And what's the purpose of flying her again? It must be costing someone a fortune to fly such a complex aircraft again....
Andrew Ward there is a handful still flying. they are relatively basic. compared to modern day fighters. it's probably the last fighter a private person could own. although there is a harrier that is privately owned.
Ronald Tartaglia . Thanks for your reply, it is wonderful to see her flying again. I merely asked as a licensed aircraft maintenance engineer, ex RAF, I handled a few 104 starfighters when the came to the UK on exercise, including Norwegian 104s. I remember fondly replenishing fuels and oils and remember the hydraulic service panel that dropped down at the rear to facilitate easy replenishment of gases in the hydraulic accumulators. Is this aircraft available to visit? I love to come and see it and the guys that did this wonderful job. I own my very own Pacific Hunter and rebuild the black Hawker Hunter that is resident in Norway, WV 318.....