3rd option: put the speaker on the tripod first, while it's still in a relatively low position, then grab the pole with one hand, hold it close to your shoulder and extend the tripod while holding the lower part of the tripod down with your other hand. While lifting the speaker with one hand might seem much harder than lifting it with two hands, because you can hold it close to your shoulder, it's actually not harder than lifting it overhead with two hands. And you can lift it higher this way.
Sick videos man, my buddy has been DJing for a year now and i started with him a couple months ago. I have always been a tech geek and I must say I am hooked! Me and my buddy decided to go on our own and we are getting all new equipment. Your videos are my GOTO. Love it bud, keep it up!
Seriously great info Rick. Too many DJ's around here laughed at me for having the speakers so high and would always question me on it. On the flip side I always get compliments from the elderly saying the music and speeches were at a perfect level for them. Once the dance starts and you turn the speakers into the floor guests that want the music will gravitate to it. You even taught me about the 8ft rule, so thank you sir.
8:30 Great you pointed this out. So many people are not aware of this and it's very important, especially for subwoofers. I always place subs within 2.5 feet or more than 8 feet from a wall, never in between, as that can cause cancellations.
Great tutorial /advice Rick, simple quick easy to easy understand with the diagrams/demos. What I do for the long rooms sometimes is use a wireless satellite speaker.
+WeddingDJBusiness that is also a very great option to do with long rooms if you have the ability to do it. Or even tap into the house system if they have one that sounds good
Dear DJ Rick, Great vid, lotsa tips for a musician DJing for schools. I always setup in a long skinny gym, actually half the whole gym. There's a partition in between. I've been setting up at the long end, not in the middle of the width. Your tip makes great sense! I'm doing the annual Halloween Dance tomorrow all day. I'm gonna try your tip about setting up width wise to see of it makes a difference after all these years. It does make sense, though. Cover the shortest distance. I always get the tops up above the heads of the crowd for better coverage and have been corner loading my little subwoofer. Your way should be very different for sure. Gonna be fun, in a good way to try it! Thanks for the excellent advice!
Hi DJ Shukes from pandemonium disco in my experience when I am booked for gigs in sports hall they erect internal gazebo so acoustics are improved excellent topics Rick Webb
Suggestion for a way to set up all tops? I currently run 4×15's and have a 12' top as a monitor.. should I pole mount all 4? Mount 2 and leave 2 on the floor? What's gonna give me the best sound without having a sub in my set up? Thank you!!!
All 4 on poles. The added bass of putting 2 on the floor really isnt worth the overall loss in ouput you will get because the sound will not travel. So yeah all 4 on poles
@@DJRickWeb awesome! Thank you! I do smaller rave type events (200 people), and people typically crowd the booth..I wanted to maximize my sound with what we have while still being able to have em run hard for several hours.. we do DJ change overs and each DJ brings their own controller/cdjs.. should I be running to ANOTHER mixer before going directly to the speakers as well?
Rick for a young man your very knowledgeable. I've learned lots, and for an old boy that's good. Knowledge is power, and if you think you know it all.... take up golf. 🤣🤣
Great vid - love this channel! I do want to say adding a third speaker to a two speaker set up will add a little bit of volume (approximately 1.76 db). The reason is because dB is a logarithmic scale. Doubling the speakers (assuming they are all at the same volume) will add about 3 db to the set up, but you can figure out how many dB's the additional speaker add by taking 10log(b/a), where "a" is the number of speakers you had in your initial set up, and "b" is the number of speakers in your new set up. So in this case if you go from 2 speakers to 3, you take 10log(3/2) which is right around 1.76 dB. If you go from 1 to 2 you take 10log(2/1), or just 10log(2) and that gets you right around 3 dB (This is log base 10, not the natural log). Sorry to get too mathy there, but anyway thanks a lot for all of these helpful videos!
OMG I donr that long way in the gym one time it wasnt great with the sound but the kids had fun, it was ok I made it throw the night and got good compliments.
Hi can you please discuss pricing and how much equipment to bring because many times you as a dj want to put as many lights and systems but people don't seem to have no ideas for example big gym they want 4 speakers when you really need double the system
what are some good heavy bass drivers in a dual 12 inch drivers setup to provide bass in party environment for 100-80 people? and is this even possible with 12 inch subs? hope to hear some advice
Well I have to say Rick you’ve done it outstanding job on this one I agree with everything that you just said good job but if you want to challenging hall try hockey arena their lots of fun cheers man
There are some errors in this video. Not trying to be rude or disrespectful. Most of my experience has been in live sound, and I carry out the technical side of things for our DJ. One thing I wanted to mention is that lower and mid range frequencies travel differently than higher frequencies. Higher frequencies are more directional than lower ones. One would not want to get their speakers "as high as they can", but an average height relative to where people would hear both drivers from the speaker as correctly as possible. When the music was being mixed in the studio, that's how the engineer's reference monitors were setup and the music mixed accordingly. Also, the manufacturers build the speakers in the same basic balanced way. Getting the speakers so high they pass over everyone's head now enhances the acoustical and reverberation properties in the room potentially causing "mud" and "boominess" effects. IF...you had to get the speakers drastically high to cover a large room you'd want the ability to be able to tilt them downwards. Which means, now you're possibly looking at trusses and rigging. Yes, higher frequencies have a higher peak amplitude, but also remember (such as according to the specs on a JBL EON 615) the HF driver is going to be operating at about 1/3rd RMS power as the LF driver. If you have a sub, the top's LF driver becomes a MF only driver if hi-passed, and the sub is operating around 2-3 times the power of the MF driver. IF YOU ARE RUNNING A SUB, YOU NEED TO HI-PASS FILTER YOUR TOPS. This creates headroom and clarity in your system. All that said, the power outputs balance everything out. The manufacturer already took care of this. Your job with speaker placement is getting them in a position to where all frequencies are able to take the most direct path to all ears as possible. Also, when dealing with multiple cabinets doing the same job (aka covering same frequencies and spaces) keep time in mind, and how those speakers could interact with each other. Most of us are probably not doing events that require arrays to be setup, so I digress on that lol. I always bring a digital mixing desk that our DJ mixer passes through. It allows for all processing, routing, and expansion capabilities that we may need at a gig. For example, I've had gigs where we ran time delays in a long narrow room. Or, places where we decided to run 2 speakers zones. Officiant miking, toast mic, DJ mic, or quick and dirty room tuning. I digress, but at the end of the day you all should do what you think sounds the best with what you have. Keep in mind, it's not all about the gear. It's how good you are at running it.
Thanks for the tips ! Also I have a question about spl or Db or watts. How much do you need for lets say 100 people? Is there a calculation or with your experience to say you need 3 watts per person ? How do you calculate the amount of speakers for the number of persons with a gig. Sorry for my English. Thanks In advance!
Good tips you gave in this video Rick for the average mobile DJ's, but you know you could take the game a step higher if you spoke about pro placement to avoid cancellations and create real hotspots, since some configurations that you showed can create cancelations in the middle of the dancefloor depening on how far is a speaker from the other
Sub frequencies are non-directional. Wall placement is good to get a little more throw. However, if you are using more than 1 sub do not separate them and place them in the corners. Subs frequencies have some strange characteristics. The best way to place subs is to have next to each other or even other cabs. The subs will actually couple doubling their output. Let me explain coupling in case this is new. Coupling is very common in car audio. Have you ever wondered why most car sub boxes are double speakers? Manufactures build these boxes to take advantage of coupling. Basically, when 2 or more subs are placed next to each other they actually double the volume output using the same amount of power. Subs can also use your top cabs to couple somewhat as long as the tops are close to your sub cabs. This is why many Dj sub manufacturers put a pole mount on top of their subs. And here you thought it was just for convenience. You want to take advantage of coupling, especially as a mobile DJ. You get more power with less equipment. Send me a message if you need or want more information about coupling dynamics or anything audio related.
I had a verry long room with dance floor in the middle also this venue had a stage about 20ft x20ft venue was verry long u have stage and dance floor infront. so i coupled 4 subs in the midle and 2 speakers on each side spread out ahould i put the tops ontop of the stage. Because what i did was put them at the the bottom and added 1 apeaker on each side as fills total i had 6 tops 4 to cover the short distance and 2 on each side to cover the silent areas to the side. What do u recomend speaker set up with a stage
+dj rick webb great video! I've been in pro audio and an active dj for over 20 years and everything you said was spot on for the beginner dj with questionable speaker placement. Especially about adding db and multiplying speaker counts. There's one thing I want to address and thats how you turn in the top boxes, HORN COVERAGE!!! If a cabinet horn has a 60 deg horizontal and 40 deg vert, if you turn them in and the placements are too far back ie a foot off the wall and spaced 10-15 feet apart one can experience the sudden FEEDBACK when making announcements on mic. I'd advise the beginner to map out the speaker placement to know how far to turn them in before show starts. In most cases I set up my speakers 12 feet apart and I set up in between them pointing straight a head with bottom of mid speaker at 5 foot 10 inches from ground but I use monitors on stands for my mixes that give me front fill. Also If a dj introduces them self at the venue to the event manager 30 days before event to do what we call a "site survey" they can ask how the room will be set up and can make requests on how there set up will work best to the venue. But if need be to where they may be set up on the wrong side of venue like you mentioned one can be prepared with enough cables to make sound system work. They can set me up anywhere and I always come prepared plus if need be they will (the venue) move there set up to help you if you ask in advance. Hope this is helpful
Same process you have two outputs from the mixer. Any more than that just link them to the first speakers and bring them up to the same almost peaking level.
in physics, then lower are the frequency's then they go widely (around the speaker box) and inverse then higher are frequency tnen more focused are the projection but what you think about to please speaker near to wall to increase low's by reflection from wall? just asking?
Hi I have a pub of 1200sq ft dance floor area which is almost square in shape for which I purchased a mackie thump 15 A and mackie 18s sub along with their prodx4 digital mixer what more speakers do you suggest for a good sound quality from every sides for a dj gig....
Time stamping my notes 1:47 ; Yes. High as possible but rule as thumb... You want it to clear your head. Why? Soundwaves. 2:30 ; Yeah, sound waves. The less stuff it has to clear, the easier it can travel. It will actually make you LOUDER. =) 3:42; This is why (among other reasons) why some tops have that screw on knob. You can do it with speakers without one, but that technique it easier with stands with lightning knobs on them. Most industry standard tops have this. 5:28 Well, sort of. You need to double the wattage, which in turn is "doubling" the speakers. So If I want more sound from my 500 watt speaker, I would need to double it to 1000 watts. The dcb gain from adding additional speakers by the way is extremely minimal. If sound "quiet" when you walk around a room, adding speakers to fill those dead areas is helpful. The father you get from the sound wave source, the weaker the wave will be. So think about that when you factor in venue size. 6:48; In short, at the start of the night, facing them outward. Once the dance floor fills, face them inward. However, avoid how IN you go. Theres a sweet spot that you can direct them where you can be BUMPING but if a client needs to walk up and tell you something, you can hear them. 9:15; 1-8ft is correct. Never up against the wall. We fight a lot of demons that cannot allow us to have 8 feet. 14:23 ; Buy a boogieboard =) yeah but all that paper stuff, Rick is correct.
Do you have any vids for how to make a single speaker sound good in a boomy or echoey medium sized square shaped room EG. an art gallery space that has no sound treatment and veneer tile panels on the floor (not carpet)
It looks as if your speakers are kind of far away from the end of your dj booth/table. How do you keep patrons from stepping on your wires etc when coming to request songs?? It seems to me if there is a path full of cables vs. a clear path......people always choose the path with the cables.......so frustrating. I actually had someone step on a speaker wire, it pulled the qtr inch out of the speaker, and broke the tip off. Any ideas/help is appreciated.
Great tips for those who need it. But when you own JBL PRX or any other high end speaker at that level, you can place them any where in the room. You can even do outdoor events with no problem. All you do is turn them like you mention when it time to rock out. That's the reason why they cost so much.
When I get book I normally get my spot given by the hall or club manager with outlets with 120 volts to 220 volts on one breaker. So power doesn't trip and go out. That's the main problem Djs always had in the city.
@@djrafaelralphwilliams7911 no. Outside events same principles for tops applies on the sub end you just got to remember you have no walls for coupling.
I have some JBL Eons at home and have them above my head in my DJ room, is that correct? I know that is correct at a gig . They do look good at 7ft in the room!
I done lots of discos with only 2 speakers, and never had the luxury of stands, i couldnt afford them at the time The closest i have ever got to having my speakers raised is when i have been on a stage, about 3 feet up, that was ok I actually used the fact that there was that gap right in between and at the front of the speakers to my advantage, it was a presentation night, so there was a guy with my mic stood right in front of me, and it reduced the feedback greatly 😁
i just have a question about a brand of speakers, i currently have 2 harbinger 600w speaker, i personally like these speakers but i just want something with a little more sound, im looking into some alto speakers, would you recommend these speakers?
+DJ TONY you will notice a difference in sound if you upgrade to some altos as they are around twice the power. Personally if you can I would save up and get a set of qsc k12s, jbl prx 715/815s, or ev ekx 15 tops. Those will give you plenty of volume to work with and you probably wont have to upgrade for a long time after compared to the altos. Most people I know with altos upgrade sortly after getting them. Look at used options through guitar center always a great deal to pick up used gear.
DJ Rick Web thanks for the suggestion, right now qsc's and jbl's are out of my price range since im still in school, and just started working, but i do plan on upgrading once i get more experiences and have a morr reliable income
I reccomend the Ev zlx series. I used just one of the 12s for over 20 events with over 50 people, I now have 2, the throw distance on these are ridiculous, same db rating throught a 50 ft room. Just did a dance with 150 people, they did perfect for 12s
I use 1000W Mackie Thump 15s about $350-$400 a piece. zzounds has 2 speakers stands and carrier bags for $999. They are really light and sound great. Have a really nice low end which removes the need for subs at smaller venues. I'm looking to buy the 1200W Thump 18 sub that goes with the series for when i do school events.
+Angel Canales no real good spot for that honestly. Because the best spot would be to fly the speakers from the ceiling. If people are along both sides than you need to setup on the ends and you would really like to be able to run speakers on the opposite side as well. Pr have really loud speakers
ponypruhest watch your horn tho. Reflections from ceiling will affect ur sq by alot. If you plan to put your top near the ceiling, downward tilt your speaker stand to avoid any unwanted room sound reflections
Hey Rick thanks for these vids... Question: I know you do a lot of proms in high school gyms.... I'm currently running a pair of Mackie SRM 550 tops with a single 15" sub and it suits my needs for weddings up to around 200ish people. I was worried if I reached out to some high schools I wouldn't have enough power to fill a decent gym. Your thoughts?
+Matthew Johnson I would agree with you there but remember not all schools being the 200 plus crowds. I do 2 to 3 a yesr tbat only bring maybe 50 to 150 amd your system would do just fine. Also remeber you can always rent gear to start off. Just figure the cost of renting a pair of 18 subs into your cost to do the gig and start contacting schools. I think your tops xan handel 250 ish maybe 300 with a low pass filter runing on them paired with 2 decent 18s.
Great video, love to see a video on sub placement too. Is it better to have them spread out with each speaker or grouped together in front of the DJ booth?
+Dj B-Rod tops doesnt matter since they dont produce enough bass for placing them together to make a difference its more important to worry about the coverage patterns they produce. Subs are different as you will see in that upcoming video as coupling them increases there output
Hey web, how can you avoid or cancel the echo on a gym or big place ? I had a gig on a gym i took 4 15" top , but there some echo that destroy my sound..
+DAVID ESPINAL use the down fire tilt feature. If you speaker can do it. Qsc, jbl l, and i think some ev can do this. Where the speaker actually is aimed down towards the people. Other then that unless you can hamg some fabric/drapes on the back walls to absorb the sound your out of luck
So say i had two speakers on each side, one facing inwards and another facing outwards, and the same on the other side (kinda like this) /\ ---- /\ (the slashes being speakers and the line being the booth, facing the top of the comment) would that increase coverenge by alot?
Well depends on the room and the speakers. Each speaker on the spec sheet has a degree measure of coverage. So if you paired to you could increase the spread of the speaker
You need to make sure the horn portion is above your ear level. Ideally the the horn should be about 7 ft in the air. The sub portion of the speaker can be ear level
NO!! pheeeww!!, the average person is 5 something there isn't going to be too many people at a gig that is over 6'3" unless you are attending a Goliath Giant Person's party then I would say yes lift it higher but, at most gigs people are shorter than 6 feet, so use common sense , good gracious!!!
I got a DDjsb3 I need to get a pair of powered speakers.I got 210 inch powered speakers I need to go up higher do you recommend 12 or 15 and what brand Do you recommend
dj rick this video came on time for me because i have 4 gigs coming up. now i have to ask you this: i have a important question to ask:will you or someone can please tell me the max capacity of people to use this system ( rockville rpg2x15 package pa system mixer/amp+15" speakers+stands+mics+bluetooth) as well as come in a party without anything else? i have 4 gigs coming up starting on May 5 2018. please respond at soon at possible. tk
As soon as I heard the first tip, I started taking notes because I knew this was going to be a good video.
I keep coming back to your drawings when I need a sound coverage refresher, really appreciate you sharing these!!
Solid advice, thanks Rick. I've been DJing for years by plugging straight into the venue's set ups. But I just got my first PA pair
I look at speaker placement videos often. Without a doubt, this is the best one yet.
+t.reid.dj thanks!!! I tried to make it as easy to understand as possible with a lot of detail still
Just use four speakers then there is no need to be moving speakers and there total coverage.
Long wall short wall if you bring enough sound it will not matter.
3rd option: put the speaker on the tripod first, while it's still in a relatively low position, then grab the pole with one hand, hold it close to your shoulder and extend the tripod while holding the lower part of the tripod down with your other hand.
While lifting the speaker with one hand might seem much harder than lifting it with two hands, because you can hold it close to your shoulder, it's actually not harder than lifting it overhead with two hands. And you can lift it higher this way.
Sick videos man, my buddy has been DJing for a year now and i started with him a couple months ago. I have always been a tech geek and I must say I am hooked! Me and my buddy decided to go on our own and we are getting all new equipment. Your videos are my GOTO. Love it bud, keep it up!
Seriously great info Rick. Too many DJ's around here laughed at me for having the speakers so high and would always question me on it. On the flip side I always get compliments from the elderly saying the music and speeches were at a perfect level for them. Once the dance starts and you turn the speakers into the floor guests that want the music will gravitate to it.
You even taught me about the 8ft rule, so thank you sir.
8:30 Great you pointed this out. So many people are not aware of this and it's very important, especially for subwoofers. I always place subs within 2.5 feet or more than 8 feet from a wall, never in between, as that can cause cancellations.
Great tutorial /advice Rick, simple quick easy to easy understand with the diagrams/demos. What I do for the long rooms sometimes is use a wireless satellite speaker.
+WeddingDJBusiness that is also a very great option to do with long rooms if you have the ability to do it. Or even tap into the house system if they have one that sounds good
Dear DJ Rick, Great vid, lotsa tips for a musician DJing for schools. I always setup in a long skinny gym, actually half the whole gym. There's a partition in between. I've been setting up at the long end, not in the middle of the width. Your tip makes great sense! I'm doing the annual Halloween Dance tomorrow all day. I'm gonna try your tip about setting up width wise to see of it makes a difference after all these years. It does make sense, though. Cover the shortest distance. I always get the tops up above the heads of the crowd for better coverage and have been corner loading my little subwoofer. Your way should be very different for sure. Gonna be fun, in a good way to try it! Thanks for the excellent advice!
Attack the shortest distance. Darn good advice. Thanks for the refresh!
Man...thank you!!! You really helped me a lot!! Appreciate you!
Hi DJ Shukes from pandemonium disco in my experience when I am booked for gigs in sports hall they erect internal gazebo so acoustics are improved excellent topics Rick Webb
Suggestion for a way to set up all tops? I currently run 4×15's and have a 12' top as a monitor.. should I pole mount all 4? Mount 2 and leave 2 on the floor? What's gonna give me the best sound without having a sub in my set up? Thank you!!!
All 4 on poles. The added bass of putting 2 on the floor really isnt worth the overall loss in ouput you will get because the sound will not travel. So yeah all 4 on poles
@@DJRickWeb awesome! Thank you! I do smaller rave type events (200 people), and people typically crowd the booth..I wanted to maximize my sound with what we have while still being able to have em run hard for several hours.. we do DJ change overs and each DJ brings their own controller/cdjs.. should I be running to ANOTHER mixer before going directly to the speakers as well?
love these videos man I usually dj at bars and venues with setups ready for me this is super helpful as im djing a prom soon!
Great video!! I would’ve loved to see a diagram on how to position speakers and mics to prevent feedback..
Hi Rick, very good tips and tricks. One question to ask: should I setup my system in mono or stereo mode and what is the difference in performance ?
Personal preference really. It doesnt make a difference. Super picky audio people only use stereo but in reality it doesn't matter.
This video is gonna make the wedding I have this Friday soooo much better! thanks!!!👍👍
+Ethan Murphy no problem this video covers a lot of requested questions I get all the time and it is also information that is not that relevant online
Great video. This will really help. Can't wait for that subwoofer video. Keep up the good work
+Garrett Hoffman no problem. It should be out next week sometime
Ok thank you. I'll be looking forward to i
Garrett Hoffman Preferred Sub Woofer placement would be against a wall in corners with your tops on speaker stands.
Great video Rick. DJ in UK loving your wisdom. Would love to hear some guidance on music organisation when you have time.
Great info Rick. Thanks!
Rick for a young man your very knowledgeable. I've learned lots, and for an old boy that's good. Knowledge is power, and if you think you know it all.... take up golf. 🤣🤣
Thanks for the tips! I gave you a shout out in my last gig log! I tried a kickstart for my gig! It was the grape one! I really liked it!
+KySo Entertainment haha dont get to into the kick starts as me. Lol. Not a healthy habit
Great vid - love this channel! I do want to say adding a third speaker to a two speaker set up will add a little bit of volume (approximately 1.76 db). The reason is because dB is a logarithmic scale. Doubling the speakers (assuming they are all at the same volume) will add about 3 db to the set up, but you can figure out how many dB's the additional speaker add by taking 10log(b/a), where "a" is the number of speakers you had in your initial set up, and "b" is the number of speakers in your new set up. So in this case if you go from 2 speakers to 3, you take 10log(3/2) which is right around 1.76 dB. If you go from 1 to 2 you take 10log(2/1), or just 10log(2) and that gets you right around 3 dB (This is log base 10, not the natural log). Sorry to get too mathy there, but anyway thanks a lot for all of these helpful videos!
OMG I donr that long way in the gym one time it wasnt great with the sound but the kids had fun, it was ok I made it throw the night and got good compliments.
DJ K2 what speakers?
great vid man!! keep up the series!
+Kushal Gossai thanks
please show different setups for 4 Tops. (dj booth covered aswell)
Hi can you please discuss pricing and how much equipment to bring because many times you as a dj want to put as many lights and systems but people don't seem to have no ideas for example big gym they want 4 speakers when you really need double the system
There is way to much variety in events and in general people have different levels of enough speaker and volume.
Great Presentation , comments by DJ Starchild
Love the illustration ....thanks
What do u think about speakers on top of a 2 meter totem for approximately 200-250 people wedding setting? Is that too high? Jw
Absolutely not that's perfect height for a large crowd like that 6.5ft.
Thanks! Fast reply. Keep up the great vids bro.
Very detailed and informative. Thanks so much.
If someone was doing an outdoor event what kind of outdoor or indoor generator power what he use?
Depends heavy on budget
@@DJRickWeb I mean how much watt needed 100 watt or 500 watt or is it amps?
Depends
new learnings from you bro.. thank you
what are some good heavy bass drivers in a dual 12 inch drivers setup to provide bass in party environment for 100-80 people? and is this even possible with 12 inch subs? hope to hear some advice
Absolutely qsc ksub is a great option. Get two of them
Exactly what I needed 👍🏻. Thanks so much 🙌🏼
Well I have to say Rick you’ve done it outstanding job on this one I agree with everything that you just said good job but if you want to challenging hall try hockey arena their lots of fun cheers man
There are some errors in this video. Not trying to be rude or disrespectful. Most of my experience has been in live sound, and I carry out the technical side of things for our DJ.
One thing I wanted to mention is that lower and mid range frequencies travel differently than higher frequencies. Higher frequencies are more directional than lower ones. One would not want to get their speakers "as high as they can", but an average height relative to where people would hear both drivers from the speaker as correctly as possible. When the music was being mixed in the studio, that's how the engineer's reference monitors were setup and the music mixed accordingly. Also, the manufacturers build the speakers in the same basic balanced way. Getting the speakers so high they pass over everyone's head now enhances the acoustical and reverberation properties in the room potentially causing "mud" and "boominess" effects.
IF...you had to get the speakers drastically high to cover a large room you'd want the ability to be able to tilt them downwards. Which means, now you're possibly looking at trusses and rigging.
Yes, higher frequencies have a higher peak amplitude, but also remember (such as according to the specs on a JBL EON 615) the HF driver is going to be operating at about 1/3rd RMS power as the LF driver. If you have a sub, the top's LF driver becomes a MF only driver if hi-passed, and the sub is operating around 2-3 times the power of the MF driver.
IF YOU ARE RUNNING A SUB, YOU NEED TO HI-PASS FILTER YOUR TOPS. This creates headroom and clarity in your system. All that said, the power outputs balance everything out. The manufacturer already took care of this. Your job with speaker placement is getting them in a position to where all frequencies are able to take the most direct path to all ears as possible.
Also, when dealing with multiple cabinets doing the same job (aka covering same frequencies and spaces) keep time in mind, and how those speakers could interact with each other. Most of us are probably not doing events that require arrays to be setup, so I digress on that lol.
I always bring a digital mixing desk that our DJ mixer passes through. It allows for all processing, routing, and expansion capabilities that we may need at a gig. For example, I've had gigs where we ran time delays in a long narrow room. Or, places where we decided to run 2 speakers zones. Officiant miking, toast mic, DJ mic, or quick and dirty room tuning.
I digress, but at the end of the day you all should do what you think sounds the best with what you have. Keep in mind, it's not all about the gear. It's how good you are at running it.
Theory is one thing practical is another
Awesome Video Rick!! Thanks.... 👍👍😊
Great Video Dj RICK 👍🏾
Thanks for the tips !
Also I have a question about spl or Db or watts. How much do you need for lets say 100 people? Is there a calculation or with your experience to say you need 3 watts per person ? How do you calculate the amount of speakers for the number of persons with a gig. Sorry for my English. Thanks In advance!
There isn't really a way to calculated anything. It's mainly a if you know you know thing. Over time you develop an ear for what is enough sound
@@DJRickWeb Wich setup you use when you have a wedding? Wich tops and how many and Wich subs how many
Good tips you gave in this video Rick for the average mobile DJ's, but you know you could take the game a step higher if you spoke about pro placement to avoid cancellations and create real hotspots, since some configurations that you showed can create cancelations in the middle of the dancefloor depening on how far is a speaker from the other
Another great video!!!
Big thanks for everything you do!!!!!
10: 25 what is the minimum width between speakers to avoid interference or frequency subtraction ?
Its different for different types of speakers but in general 20ft works well
Great video man, thanks
Thank you so much, very helpful
Thanx, super. Next time subwoofer placement? :-)
Hahaha, you said it at the end of the video.....
+Ivan vH coming soon
Ivan vH Preferred Sub Woofer placement would be against a wall in corners with your tops on speaker stands.
Sub frequencies are non-directional. Wall placement is good to get a little more throw. However, if you are using more than 1 sub do not separate them and place them in the corners. Subs frequencies have some strange characteristics. The best way to place subs is to have next to each other or even other cabs. The subs will actually couple doubling their output. Let me explain coupling in case this is new. Coupling is very common in car audio. Have you ever wondered why most car sub boxes are double speakers? Manufactures build these boxes to take advantage of coupling. Basically, when 2 or more subs are placed next to each other they actually double the volume output using the same amount of power. Subs can also use your top cabs to couple somewhat as long as the tops are close to your sub cabs. This is why many Dj sub manufacturers put a pole mount on top of their subs. And here you thought it was just for convenience. You want to take advantage of coupling, especially as a mobile DJ. You get more power with less equipment. Send me a message if you need or want more information about coupling dynamics or anything audio related.
5:23 You can trust me... I stayed at a Holiday inn Express...😂
I had a verry long room with dance floor in the middle also this venue had a stage about 20ft x20ft venue was verry long u have stage and dance floor infront. so i coupled 4 subs in the midle and 2 speakers on each side spread out ahould i put the tops ontop of the stage. Because what i did was put them at the the bottom and added 1 apeaker on each side as fills total i had 6 tops 4 to cover the short distance and 2 on each side to cover the silent areas to the side. What do u recomend speaker set up with a stage
+dj rick webb great video! I've been in pro audio and an active dj for over 20 years and everything you said was spot on for the beginner dj with questionable speaker placement. Especially about adding db and multiplying speaker counts. There's one thing I want to address and thats how you turn in the top boxes, HORN COVERAGE!!! If a cabinet horn has a 60 deg horizontal and 40 deg vert, if you turn them in and the placements are too far back ie a foot off the wall and spaced 10-15 feet apart one can experience the sudden FEEDBACK when making announcements on mic. I'd advise the beginner to map out the speaker placement to know how far to turn them in before show starts. In most cases I set up my speakers 12 feet apart and I set up in between them pointing straight a head with bottom of mid speaker at 5 foot 10 inches from ground but I use monitors on stands for my mixes that give me front fill. Also If a dj introduces them self at the venue to the event manager 30 days before event to do what we call a "site survey" they can ask how the room will be set up and can make requests on how there set up will work best to the venue. But if need be to where they may be set up on the wrong side of venue like you mentioned one can be prepared with enough cables to make sound system work. They can set me up anywhere and I always come prepared plus if need be they will (the venue) move there set up to help you if you ask in advance. Hope this is helpful
Great. But how do u add other speakers?
Same process you have two outputs from the mixer. Any more than that just link them to the first speakers and bring them up to the same almost peaking level.
in physics, then lower are the frequency's then they go widely (around the speaker box) and inverse then higher are frequency tnen more focused are the projection
but what you think about to please speaker near to wall to increase low's by reflection from wall? just asking?
You dont gain much compared to say a sub.
Hi I have a pub of 1200sq ft dance floor area which is almost square in shape for which I purchased a mackie thump 15 A and mackie 18s sub along with their prodx4 digital mixer what more speakers do you suggest for a good sound quality from every sides for a dj gig....
I have to see the venue to give a proposal sorry
DJ Rick Web but it’s in India
Time stamping my notes
1:47 ; Yes. High as possible but rule as thumb... You want it to clear your head. Why? Soundwaves.
2:30 ; Yeah, sound waves. The less stuff it has to clear, the easier it can travel. It will actually make you LOUDER. =)
3:42; This is why (among other reasons) why some tops have that screw on knob. You can do it with speakers without one, but that technique it easier with stands with lightning knobs on them. Most industry standard tops have this.
5:28 Well, sort of. You need to double the wattage, which in turn is "doubling" the speakers. So If I want more sound from my 500 watt speaker, I would need to double it to 1000 watts. The dcb gain from adding additional speakers by the way is extremely minimal. If sound "quiet" when you walk around a room, adding speakers to fill those dead areas is helpful. The father you get from the sound wave source, the weaker the wave will be. So think about that when you factor in venue size.
6:48; In short, at the start of the night, facing them outward. Once the dance floor fills, face them inward. However, avoid how IN you go. Theres a sweet spot that you can direct them where you can be BUMPING but if a client needs to walk up and tell you something, you can hear them.
9:15; 1-8ft is correct. Never up against the wall. We fight a lot of demons that cannot allow us to have 8 feet.
14:23 ; Buy a boogieboard =) yeah but all that paper stuff, Rick is correct.
+Joe Lewis haha. Love the time stamp comments
👍good tips bruh
Thanks man good info 🎶🎶🏌🏾♂️
Do you have any vids for how to make a single speaker sound good in a boomy or echoey medium sized square shaped room EG. an art gallery space that has no sound treatment and veneer tile panels on the floor (not carpet)
Spread speakers out along the narrow wall. If you can angle down do it and put speakers high up. Otherwise you have to deal with it
Top tips, thanks for taking the time to make this video and upload and share, Top man 'DJ Rick Web'
It looks as if your speakers are kind of far away from the end of your dj booth/table. How do you keep patrons from stepping on your wires etc when coming to request songs?? It seems to me if there is a path full of cables vs. a clear path......people always choose the path with the cables.......so frustrating. I actually had someone step on a speaker wire, it pulled the qtr inch out of the speaker, and broke the tip off. Any ideas/help is appreciated.
Any suggestions if it's an outdoor wedding, on grass?
+TheRomosapien9 bring black mats to cover the cords. Done this before
Dj Rick Webb what about wedding song request and mixing in some of todays hitts
Thanks for the tips bro .
Great tips for those who need it. But when you own JBL PRX or any other high end speaker at that level, you can place them any where in the room. You can even do outdoor events with no problem. All you do is turn them like you mention when it time to rock out. That's the reason why they cost so much.
+Ray Rosario pretty true because they have the power to play from just about any postion in a room.
When I get book I normally get my spot given by the hall or club manager with outlets with 120 volts to 220 volts on one breaker. So power doesn't trip and go out. That's the main problem Djs always had in the city.
Do you have any advice if you have high ceilings with that echo sound?
If you can use tall speakers stands and use the downwards pole mount option
Thanks man - that really help.
Thank You so much this was a great video.
Welcome
How can you place your speakers in an outdoor event e.g a football field
All 4 corners pointing in.
Great video man! Thanks a lot.
Thanks for the info,
Would the same apply for subwoofers also X2?
No see the subwoofer placement video for those tips. The dynamics of bass are a lot different then tops
Thanks, got it. Do you a video for outside events?
@@djrafaelralphwilliams7911 no. Outside events same principles for tops applies on the sub end you just got to remember you have no walls for coupling.
Had three gigs recently, two outside one inside. You method works, it sounded better than ever! Thanks for your tips.
Wow saved this video, and took notes
Well put video rick thanks for the tips 👍🏽
I have some JBL Eons at home and have them above my head in my DJ room, is that correct? I know that is correct at a gig . They do look good at 7ft in the room!
Very useful tips thanks👌🏾🎤
I done lots of discos with only 2 speakers, and never had the luxury of stands, i couldnt afford them at the time
The closest i have ever got to having my speakers raised is when i have been on a stage, about 3 feet up, that was ok
I actually used the fact that there was that gap right in between and at the front of the speakers to my advantage, it was a presentation night, so there was a guy with my mic stood right in front of me, and it reduced the feedback greatly 😁
Killer brother!! Useful information
+DJ Brandon thanks as always brandon
DJ Rick Web
No problem bro!!
Good vid bro. Thanks for the info.
i just have a question about a brand of speakers, i currently have 2 harbinger 600w speaker, i personally like these speakers but i just want something with a little more sound, im looking into some alto speakers, would you recommend these speakers?
+DJ TONY you will notice a difference in sound if you upgrade to some altos as they are around twice the power. Personally if you can I would save up and get a set of qsc k12s, jbl prx 715/815s, or ev ekx 15 tops. Those will give you plenty of volume to work with and you probably wont have to upgrade for a long time after compared to the altos. Most people I know with altos upgrade sortly after getting them. Look at used options through guitar center always a great deal to pick up used gear.
DJ Rick Web thanks for the suggestion, right now qsc's and jbl's are out of my price range since im still in school, and just started working, but i do plan on upgrading once i get more experiences and have a morr reliable income
+DJ TONY I used harbinger speakers for 3 years and saved up to buy prx speakers
I reccomend the Ev zlx series. I used just one of the 12s for over 20 events with over 50 people, I now have 2, the throw distance on these are ridiculous, same db rating throught a 50 ft room. Just did a dance with 150 people, they did perfect for 12s
I use 1000W Mackie Thump 15s about $350-$400 a piece. zzounds has 2 speakers stands and carrier bags for $999. They are really light and sound great. Have a really nice low end which removes the need for subs at smaller venues. I'm looking to buy the 1200W Thump 18 sub that goes with the series for when i do school events.
great educational video bro kep it up..
very good infro helped a lot thanks
Thanks for the speaker placement video.
very good explanation
What about to setup in a gym for a high school pep rally or basketball game
+Angel Canales no real good spot for that honestly. Because the best spot would be to fly the speakers from the ceiling. If people are along both sides than you need to setup on the ends and you would really like to be able to run speakers on the opposite side as well. Pr have really loud speakers
Great STUFF. man!!
Thanks Rick.. much needed info!
+Marvin Crawford welcome
wow thanks bro, this really helps!
+DJ Noy welcome
Low ceiling height? Aka, can I put the speakers too close to the ceiling?
Nope put it right at the ceiling if it's that low
ponypruhest watch your horn tho. Reflections from ceiling will affect ur sq by alot.
If you plan to put your top near the ceiling, downward tilt your speaker stand to avoid any unwanted room sound reflections
Hey Rick thanks for these vids... Question: I know you do a lot of proms in high school gyms.... I'm currently running a pair of Mackie SRM 550 tops with a single 15" sub and it suits my needs for weddings up to around 200ish people. I was worried if I reached out to some high schools I wouldn't have enough power to fill a decent gym. Your thoughts?
+Matthew Johnson I would agree with you there but remember not all schools being the 200 plus crowds. I do 2 to 3 a yesr tbat only bring maybe 50 to 150 amd your system would do just fine. Also remeber you can always rent gear to start off. Just figure the cost of renting a pair of 18 subs into your cost to do the gig and start contacting schools. I think your tops xan handel 250 ish maybe 300 with a low pass filter runing on them paired with 2 decent 18s.
I really enjoy this channel
Great video, love to see a video on sub placement too. Is it better to have them spread out with each speaker or grouped together in front of the DJ booth?
+Dj B-Rod tops doesnt matter since they dont produce enough bass for placing them together to make a difference its more important to worry about the coverage patterns they produce. Subs are different as you will see in that upcoming video as coupling them increases there output
Useful! Thanks very much!
can u give an advice for outdoor setup
Sure
Thank you so much. Great speaker tips.
Hey web, how can you avoid or cancel the echo on a gym or big place ? I had a gig on a gym i took 4 15" top , but there some echo that destroy my sound..
+DAVID ESPINAL use the down fire tilt feature. If you speaker can do it. Qsc, jbl l, and i think some ev can do this. Where the speaker actually is aimed down towards the people. Other then that unless you can hamg some fabric/drapes on the back walls to absorb the sound your out of luck
So say i had two speakers on each side, one facing inwards and another facing outwards, and the same on the other side (kinda like this) /\ ---- /\ (the slashes being speakers and the line being the booth, facing the top of the comment) would that increase coverenge by alot?
Well depends on the room and the speakers. Each speaker on the spec sheet has a degree measure of coverage. So if you paired to you could increase the spread of the speaker
@@DJRickWeb Its for a school courtyard which is a very awkward shape at the end of the courtyard.
What about subwoofer placement
There is a video on that
I'm 6ft 3 inches should I raise my 300w two speaker system as high as possible as I listen to them in my flat aswel they reach upto 20khz Down to 45hz
You need to make sure the horn portion is above your ear level. Ideally the the horn should be about 7 ft in the air. The sub portion of the speaker can be ear level
NO!! pheeeww!!, the average person is 5 something there isn't going to be too many people at a gig that is over 6'3" unless you are attending a Goliath Giant Person's party then I would say yes lift it higher but, at most gigs people are shorter than 6 feet, so use common sense , good gracious!!!
I got a DDjsb3 I need to get a pair of powered speakers.I got 210 inch powered speakers I need to go up higher do you recommend 12 or 15 and what brand Do you recommend
See video on best speakers
dj rick this video came on time for me because i have 4 gigs coming up. now i have to ask you this:
i have a important question to ask:will you or someone can please tell me the max capacity of people to use this system ( rockville rpg2x15 package pa system mixer/amp+15" speakers+stands+mics+bluetooth) as well as come in a party without anything else? i have 4 gigs coming up starting on May 5 2018. please respond at soon at possible. tk
Maybe 150.
DJ Rick Web ok tk dj rick. keep up
So basically, it can be on the floor too where it isn’t at ur ear level either ?
Good stuff.