He wanted out from under the thumbs of both Dumbledore and Voldemort. I think he figured death would be more peaceful than living as he was, and there was a chance to reunite with Lily on the other side.
You realize that Snape applying for the job each year, and not getting it was an act right? It was a story made up by both Dumbledore & Snape, so when Voldermort eventually came back, Snape had a plausible excuse to go back to the DeathEaters.... He says as much to Bellatrix & Narcissa in the HBP. He wasn't looking for a way out. He would never abandon Lily's son like that. He may not have liked Harry, but he was protecting him for Lily. He wouldn't have left that obligation for anything.
Exactly!! This is the whole point of always. When snaps realizes Harry is suppose to die and he hates it because he is lily’s son and he has and will always love her
Is it said he actually applied each year? I can't recal. The point gets across though. I mean it was very common knowledge he wanted the job. For him to year on year on year not get it would make the point come a cross.
I've always considered the problem with the defense of the dark arts' teacher position more of a coincidence/sort of an honest bad luck streak, rather than an actual curse on a job title. Pretty sure Snape just thought his predecessors (before he finally got the job) were just all incompetent, unsuitable, sub par teachers, tho
Except in HBP it is confirmed that the position is cursed and Dumbledore knew it, he's the one who confirms the rumors of it being jinxed. (Also Snape and Dumbledore both confirm that Snape wanting the position was just a ruse)
30 years of not having a single teacher in that position for more than a year is not a coincidence. It's definitely jinxed. Add to the fact that it started right after Voldy got turned down.
I would have to disagree partially with that statement. I do believe snape wanted the possibility to finally rest, but I don't believe for a second that snape regarded himself as being under dumbledores control, or that he held the current fanvision of an evil dumbledore. The way I interpret snapes relationship with dumbledore is through snapes perspective. Hogwarts is his home, and dumbledore is the only person in the world that truelly knows him, and there is an enormous amount of mutual trust. I therefore think that snape regarded dumbledore as his best and only true friend and mentor, altough he absolutely cared for hogwarts as his home and his collegues, but in a more superficial way.
yes! people keep spewing this evil Dumbledore and I just think it's too harsh. he just did what he had to do bc he knew that ppl would not be able to defeat voldemort without making sacrifices. Snape grew up with Dumbledore, admiring him and probably considering him somewhat of a father figure bc he was the only adult that ever told him he was intelligent, while slughorn ignored him in favour of James, for example. also, I believe snape's morals are very similar to Dumbledore's
U mean the same man that told him to shut the fuck up when Sev almost got killed to a werewolf because otherwise it would be known Dumbledore let a highly dangerous creature into a school full of children breaking the law. Not to mention it would get his favorite gryffindors into trouble. He made Snape have a life debt to Potter. Never stopping the bullying. The same Dumbledore that said what will u give me in return for protecting my own order members when told they were in danger and how they needed protection. The same Dumbledore that let Sirius Black rot in Azkaban so Harry wouldn't grow up spoiled and would go along with quote "Raised like a pig for slaughter"
@shefihameed9334 Do you realize Severus Snape had no one who loved or cared about him. That he was maybe tired of a life of being bullied and enslaved. That the one person he was obsessively in love with had chosen to marry his childhood bully and have that person's child. Abandoned him over a stupid word said in a situation caused by the man she would later marry. Who wouldn't be super depressed. Doesn't mean you set depressed people up for death. Dumbledore was part of the ruin that was Severus Snape's life. In fact Dumbledore is the main character responsible for ruining a lot of people's lives by not taking responsibility properly as both a teacher and headmaster.
Snape followed Dumbledore's plan until the moment he died. There's no way Snape wanted "out." He even took up the post of being the headmaster to fulfill his promise to protect the school after Dumbledore's gone. Everything that Snape did after he became Dumbledore's person was to repent for Lily's death. In his final moment, Snape was begging Voldemort to let him go back into the school to find Harry because he NEEDED to deliver Dumbledore's final instruction to Harry. If he lived, I doubt his relationship with Harry would improve but there would at least be respect between them. Although I can't remember if there was a line in the book where it explains why he was applying for the cursed post every year, one thing is for sure. Snape was not such a coward. (Prince's Tale book 7.)
Man if I was Snape I’d have already swan dived off Yavenclaw tower during Harry’s first year. No way I’m dealing with mr. Golden boy for 7 school years 💀💀💀
You also need to realise that Dumbledore never give the position to Snape because he wanted to protect him from the curse and was forced to give it to him in the end because he only trust him at point
As a kid I thought he wanted the position to break the curse. He was exceptional with the Dark Arts, going so far as to make a potential lethal (pretty damn lethal if you don't know the specific healing spell) at 16, so finding a counter curse should be in the realm of possibility. It is sad knowing he never truly valued his life, but he did at least do the future generations proud. He was a strict instructor who made sure his students learned, even if his methods were unsavory and cruel
I thought it was how empty he felt without Lily in his world that he no longer wanted to be haunted by her ghost. Everytime he looks in Harry's eyes you see Snapes tone change and face softens like a distant memory of loved ones coming back. He was in mental agony, severely depressed, and alone. What do severely depressed people with regret do? Find an out!😢
I have no doubt he was severely depressed and wanted to be with Lily. He does blame himself for her death, however, and sometimes (not all) a guilty conscience will cause a person to want to right that wrong. Living until he's no longer useful to her/ her family was his self-established punishment IMO Snape was canonically a Potions Master by 21 (1982). He had access to obscure and forgotten recipes and knowledge capable of creating more, vast knowledge of lethal (to one's self and others) spells and curses and access to a Forest of potential deadly plants and animals. He had plenty of options, and chose not to take the out until Harry was an adult and the horcruxes almost completely destroyed. It is Highly likely that he was trying to use the position for self-sacrificial reasons, but he also had easier, quicker and guaranteed ways to end himself than a year long teaching job that in the 5 years we witnessed have only 1 actual death. 3 of the professors suffer fates worse than death after leaving so that was more likely to happen than him die in June
Man, the more and more I learn about Snape, the more appealing his character becomes to me, and my respect for him also grows with it day by day. Snape is, without a doubt, the most grey and three dimensional character in the whole HP franchise.
I believe that snape asked every year for that position because not only did he not value his life but i think it wasn't about him being out of Dumbledore's control but getting out of Voldemort's control.he didnt want to work for the person who killed the woman he loved.
Or Severus might have just wanted a way to get to see Lily again. He was clearly still in love with her, sohe might have seen being unalived by th curse as a way to see her again. You never know.
Yeah namely with the theory where the Peverell brothers are represented by Voldemort (Antioch), Snape (Cadmus, the one who wanted to bring a loved one from the dead), Harry (Ignotus). Then again, in this same theory, Dumbledore represents death.
My theory is that Snape enjoyed the dark arts and since he used to be a death eater he knew he could teach students how to defend themselves from them. Dumbledore refused to give him the position because he was too valuable to lose (because as we all know, the position is cursed). Snape and Dumbledore had a very trusting relationship and Snape's loyalty to Lily never faded even though she's dead, so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't take her killer's side.
Yeah I don't think Dumbledore explains it. Iirc Snape at one point asks why Dumbledore won't give him the job and asks if it's because he doesn't trust Snape
@@TheCumberCoIlective or maybe because Snape could be against the idea that Dumbledore was sending a person every year in a cursed position, with a high risk of losing the job, or his mind, or his memory ... Or his life😳
I'm not sure if Fawkes would have been able to heal Dumbledore. That ring contained a fragment of Voldemort's soul, and (if I remember correctly) horcruxes are considered one of the darkest forms of magic. Pure evil. Healing something like that is different to curing Basilisk venom. And a clash between something that dark and Fawkes (literally the exact opposite) might have caused some unfavorable reaction. Besides, Snape only managed to temporarily trap the curse in Dumbledore's hand, and he's an expert on both potions and the Dark Arts, not to mention that he knew Voldemort quite 'intimately', which may have been useful. If there was some way to cure the curse he probably would have known.
They don’t need to die or leave Hogwarts at the end if the year, they just need to not be DADA teacher consecutively after that year when they were DADA teacher. Snape was DADA teacher in HBP but he didn’t die or leave Hogwarts at the end of that year. He was Headmaster of Hogwarts the next year.
And now you also realize that because Dumbledore is a genius he knew that Snape knew about the curse so he wouldn't give it to him because he needs Snape to kill him and then him to explain everything to Harry after his death😢
I’m sorry for him having to suffer through that pain. He didn’t care for his own life and gave the care he deserved to harry, who wasn’t even his child. Severus just needed someone to hold him and love him and understand him. He never had that. This is also why he probably put himself in danger to protect Harry from Lupin in POA.
or out of his guilt and pain or maybe he was genius who could've broken tbe curse even albus couldn't and planned to do it as soon he got it and let the others pay the prize for taking his dream job
I had a theory that Dumbledore was weaponizing the curse to expose and oust the inconpetent ones. It fits for Quirrell and Lockhart. But it falls apart. Lupin was great. Dumbledore didn't know that Moody was actually BCJ, and both real Moody and polyjuiced BCJ were great. Umbridge was a plant that Dumbledore had no say over. And Snape had to move to the next phase of the mission at the end of the year/after Dumbledore's death.
Thats one of the reasons im not a huge fan of dumbledore. He not only raised harry like a pig going to slaughter, he also waited to the “right” time to give Snape his wish to be the DADA professor. Yet another parallel between Snape and Harrys lives. J K Rowling is a genius at weaving together an epic story!
I think he just wanted his life back PERIOD he was used as a puppet most of his life via either dumbledore, voldemort and the death eaters etc... poor guy just wanted it all to be over 😢
and the fact that severus would have began teaching almost immediately after graduation makes it even more tragic. when harry began attending he was only in his 20's. and considering severus' childhood and background, there's huge potential for dumbledore to have been grooming him for over a decade and into that position in the first place.
I always thought he wanted the job as he found a way to break the curse, also meaning nobody else would have to suffer the fate of past teachers taking the post
This made me realize that wants you said let that absorb. I sent it to my Harry Potter loveing friend cause if I am going to be sad she is going to be sad with me
and think about this, he was working for both sides right and both sides killed the love of his life, voldemort with the actual killing and dumbledore with failing to protect her. he just wanted to be with her, he protected harry for as long as he could
Having the position does not imply dying. Actually, the only one who died at the end of the year was Quirell (and Barty if you count him but he was an usurper and Moody had accepted the job for only one year anyway).
🤯 holy shit! I never knew this plot and character information! Reading books really does make such a difference versus just watching a movie or tv show!
He didn’t have the only person he was living for and he saw that person out of reach everyday, (harry) that traumatizing and I would want the same thing.
Severus Snape wanted to teach D.A.D.A. for years, but Albus Dumbledore denied him the job repeatedly, partly for fear of Snape straying back towards the darkness, and partly to keep him around for longer, given the curse on the position. I doubt Snape would want to die before Harry, He loved Lily so much that he’d do anything for her even after death which would be Protecting Harry also not to forget he also owed James Potter for when James saved Snape from werewolf Lupin.
I recently had a hilarious realisation about snape (I’m a snape hater but I don’t think it matters too much in this sense) Snape famously hated the marauders. So he was living his life relatively happy because they were all out of his life: one in prison, two dead and one somewhere doing something but away from snape so he wasn’t too bothered. Now in a few years time he ended up teaching Harry who famously looked like James, then Lupin returned to Hogwarts and they had to work together, being actual colleagues (and then later he’d interact with him regularly through the order) then he found out Peter was alive and Sirius was out of prison and he had to interact with them both: in the order with Sirius and on death eater meetings with Peter. He was probably losing sleep every night expecting James to resurrect somehow and come back to kick his arse😂
I like this theory but also could have thought that he could beat voldermorts curse as he is a very powerful wizard himself and understood the dark arts very well
Basically no one knew Tom Riddle applied for the job and Dumbledore only guessed at the fact Voldemort cursed. So no, it wasn’t common knowledge and Snape wanted the job because he was good at it and liked that job.
another way to read it is that Snape knew 1st hand just how fanatical and dangerous the forces Voldemort would send against Harry, he also took of his oath over Lilly's corpse to do his best to protect her son which was reaffirmed later with Albus ... so he wanted the job so he could teach Harry how to look after himself, because oaths and pacts sealed in blood and on the spirits of the dead are some seriously powerful magic!
I immediately thought of the scene in the movie where umbridge questions snape and she says "you initially applied for the dark arts position." And then " but you were unsuccessful?" Like if id known this information that scene would have been very different
for years nothing happened and Dumbledore never asked him to do anything in that time because Voldemort was weak. So for 10 years he was in a very comfortable position with Dumbledore's protection against the Death Eaters, there's no way he wanted out in that time. He applied every year because 1. he didn't know it was cursed or 2. to keep the front that he "wanted the job" so when Voldemort came back, he had an excuse. It was until the events of the 6th book, that he started to feel it was too much and even then, he didn't abandoned Dumbledore because of Lily.
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"Has it ever crossed your brilliant mind that I don't want to do this anymore"
-Severus Snape
Which means he didn’t want to kill him . He had to .
He hated his own life, and simply adored Dumbledores, he couldn’t kill the one life that gave him a purpose 😢😢
He wanted out from under the thumbs of both Dumbledore and Voldemort. I think he figured death would be more peaceful than living as he was, and there was a chance to reunite with Lily on the other side.
Might have gotten awkward if James was there too
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In some ways Dumbledore wasn't much different from Voldemort.
It's like the red shirts on star trek. They always die
@@okidokidraws I totally agree. They were two sides of the same coin. Dumbledore could have very easily been a Dark Wizard.
Childhood me: I hate Snape
Adult me: I am Snape
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Hahahahaha yeah
You abuse child and try poisoning their pets?
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Facts 😭
You realize that Snape applying for the job each year, and not getting it was an act right? It was a story made up by both Dumbledore & Snape, so when Voldermort eventually came back, Snape had a plausible excuse to go back to the DeathEaters.... He says as much to Bellatrix & Narcissa in the HBP. He wasn't looking for a way out. He would never abandon Lily's son like that. He may not have liked Harry, but he was protecting him for Lily. He wouldn't have left that obligation for anything.
yes exactly
Exactly!! This is the whole point of always. When snaps realizes Harry is suppose to die and he hates it because he is lily’s son and he has and will always love her
Finally! Someone who actually read and understood the books❤
Is it said he actually applied each year? I can't recal. The point gets across though. I mean it was very common knowledge he wanted the job. For him to year on year on year not get it would make the point come a cross.
Weeeeell, in the memory he gives Harry while dying, he IS repeatedly trying to abandon Harry by getting Dumbledore to expell him.
“No snape I’m not letting you have that job” Dumbledore said calmly as snape suffers
I've always considered the problem with the defense of the dark arts' teacher position more of a coincidence/sort of an honest bad luck streak, rather than an actual curse on a job title.
Pretty sure Snape just thought his predecessors (before he finally got the job) were just all incompetent, unsuitable, sub par teachers, tho
Blame Dumbledore for hiring them.
Except in HBP it is confirmed that the position is cursed and Dumbledore knew it, he's the one who confirms the rumors of it being jinxed. (Also Snape and Dumbledore both confirm that Snape wanting the position was just a ruse)
In the books it was mentioned Tom riddle cursed the job, which is WHY those people had little ‘accidents’ and ‘coincidences’
30 years of not having a single teacher in that position for more than a year is not a coincidence. It's definitely jinxed. Add to the fact that it started right after Voldy got turned down.
I would have to disagree partially with that statement. I do believe snape wanted the possibility to finally rest, but I don't believe for a second that snape regarded himself as being under dumbledores control, or that he held the current fanvision of an evil dumbledore. The way I interpret snapes relationship with dumbledore is through snapes perspective. Hogwarts is his home, and dumbledore is the only person in the world that truelly knows him, and there is an enormous amount of mutual trust. I therefore think that snape regarded dumbledore as his best and only true friend and mentor, altough he absolutely cared for hogwarts as his home and his collegues, but in a more superficial way.
yes! people keep spewing this evil Dumbledore and I just think it's too harsh. he just did what he had to do bc he knew that ppl would not be able to defeat voldemort without making sacrifices. Snape grew up with Dumbledore, admiring him and probably considering him somewhat of a father figure bc he was the only adult that ever told him he was intelligent, while slughorn ignored him in favour of James, for example. also, I believe snape's morals are very similar to Dumbledore's
U mean the same man that told him to shut the fuck up when Sev almost got killed to a werewolf because otherwise it would be known Dumbledore let a highly dangerous creature into a school full of children breaking the law. Not to mention it would get his favorite gryffindors into trouble. He made Snape have a life debt to Potter. Never stopping the bullying.
The same Dumbledore that said what will u give me in return for protecting my own order members when told they were in danger and how they needed protection.
The same Dumbledore that let Sirius Black rot in Azkaban so Harry wouldn't grow up spoiled and would go along with quote "Raised like a pig for slaughter"
@shefihameed9334 Do you realize Severus Snape had no one who loved or cared about him. That he was maybe tired of a life of being bullied and enslaved. That the one person he was obsessively in love with had chosen to marry his childhood bully and have that person's child. Abandoned him over a stupid word said in a situation caused by the man she would later marry. Who wouldn't be super depressed. Doesn't mean you set depressed people up for death. Dumbledore was part of the ruin that was Severus Snape's life. In fact Dumbledore is the main character responsible for ruining a lot of people's lives by not taking responsibility properly as both a teacher and headmaster.
Snape followed Dumbledore's plan until the moment he died. There's no way Snape wanted "out." He even took up the post of being the headmaster to fulfill his promise to protect the school after Dumbledore's gone. Everything that Snape did after he became Dumbledore's person was to repent for Lily's death. In his final moment, Snape was begging Voldemort to let him go back into the school to find Harry because he NEEDED to deliver Dumbledore's final instruction to Harry. If he lived, I doubt his relationship with Harry would improve but there would at least be respect between them. Although I can't remember if there was a line in the book where it explains why he was applying for the cursed post every year, one thing is for sure. Snape was not such a coward. (Prince's Tale book 7.)
I just love Professor Snape!
Man if I was Snape I’d have already swan dived off Yavenclaw tower during Harry’s first year. No way I’m dealing with mr. Golden boy for 7 school years 💀💀💀
Yeah I agree
You also need to realise that Dumbledore never give the position to Snape because he wanted to protect him from the curse and was forced to give it to him in the end because he only trust him at point
As a kid I thought he wanted the position to break the curse. He was exceptional with the Dark Arts, going so far as to make a potential lethal (pretty damn lethal if you don't know the specific healing spell) at 16, so finding a counter curse should be in the realm of possibility. It is sad knowing he never truly valued his life, but he did at least do the future generations proud. He was a strict instructor who made sure his students learned, even if his methods were unsavory and cruel
I thought it was how empty he felt without Lily in his world that he no longer wanted to be haunted by her ghost. Everytime he looks in Harry's eyes you see Snapes tone change and face softens like a distant memory of loved ones coming back. He was in mental agony, severely depressed, and alone. What do severely depressed people with regret do? Find an out!😢
I have no doubt he was severely depressed and wanted to be with Lily. He does blame himself for her death, however, and sometimes (not all) a guilty conscience will cause a person to want to right that wrong. Living until he's no longer useful to her/ her family was his self-established punishment IMO
Snape was canonically a Potions Master by 21 (1982). He had access to obscure and forgotten recipes and knowledge capable of creating more, vast knowledge of lethal (to one's self and others) spells and curses and access to a Forest of potential deadly plants and animals. He had plenty of options, and chose not to take the out until Harry was an adult and the horcruxes almost completely destroyed.
It is Highly likely that he was trying to use the position for self-sacrificial reasons, but he also had easier, quicker and guaranteed ways to end himself than a year long teaching job that in the 5 years we witnessed have only 1 actual death. 3 of the professors suffer fates worse than death after leaving so that was more likely to happen than him die in June
Man, the more and more I learn about Snape, the more appealing his character becomes to me, and my respect for him also grows with it day by day. Snape is, without a doubt, the most grey and three dimensional character in the whole HP franchise.
I also now realized that he had to watch a friend die (that muggle studdies teacher) because of that deal.
Wow, that's dark. It also makes a lot of sense.
Her: goog morning, here is a really tragic Harry Potter realization to kick start your day
Me watching this at midnight: 👁️ 👄 👁️
not even a Harry Potter fan and I feel this 😭😭😭
She didn't push the soda tab down, why didn't she push the tab down
Because it's not required for drinking.
@@jigglypuff52 I don't care she gave me an existential crisis
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Worry about your own soda tab love
Woah it all adds up now
I hated snape until I found out his past and the good things about him-In the movies I couldn't care less about book snape
I believe that snape asked every year for that position because not only did he not value his life but i think it wasn't about him being out of Dumbledore's control but getting out of Voldemort's control.he didnt want to work for the person who killed the woman he loved.
Help I'm crying😭🖐
Or Severus might have just wanted a way to get to see Lily again. He was clearly still in love with her, sohe might have seen being unalived by th curse as a way to see her again. You never know.
Yeah namely with the theory where the Peverell brothers are represented by Voldemort (Antioch), Snape (Cadmus, the one who wanted to bring a loved one from the dead), Harry (Ignotus).
Then again, in this same theory, Dumbledore represents death.
Obsessed*
@@crispysatyr0355 why do you think he was obsessed rather than love her?
Only one DA died. That's not part of the Jinx
@@Alex-qf4ut Maybe because Snape literally asked Voldemort to kill Lilly's child and husband and only went to Dumbledore when Voldemort refused.
What's more shocking is that you opened that with a spoon😮
Considering Snape was trying way before Harry got there... not sure you have a point here.
Yeah
My theory is that Snape enjoyed the dark arts and since he used to be a death eater he knew he could teach students how to defend themselves from them. Dumbledore refused to give him the position because he was too valuable to lose (because as we all know, the position is cursed). Snape and Dumbledore had a very trusting relationship and Snape's loyalty to Lily never faded even though she's dead, so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't take her killer's side.
We all know snape is the stand in for the peverell brother with his resurrection stone once the 7th book came out.
That level of dark magic definitely required a human sacrifice
That's correct, actually I thought thats already common knowledge in the HP community ... however its so sad how Snape suffers :(
As an adult I realized that fiction writers have deadlines and need sleep too.
Snape may have just believed he was the only one who would be able to beat the curse, and it sort of lines up with his character.
Holy fuck… never thought about this… damn it makes so much sense :)
Not when you have read the books it doesn't lol.
From these comments you’d swear dumbledore chained snape in the dungeons and forced him to remain at hogwarts 😂
I think he didn't know for sure, but Dumbledore wouldn't let him because of the curse
Yeah I don't think Dumbledore explains it. Iirc Snape at one point asks why Dumbledore won't give him the job and asks if it's because he doesn't trust Snape
@@TheCumberCoIlective or maybe because Snape could be against the idea that Dumbledore was sending a person every year in a cursed position, with a high risk of losing the job, or his mind, or his memory ... Or his life😳
Dumbledore plotted and schemed his own death. Really, you couldn't do anything about that ring curse?! Fwakes cured basilisk venom.
Fawkes didn't offer
I'm not sure if Fawkes would have been able to heal Dumbledore. That ring contained a fragment of Voldemort's soul, and (if I remember correctly) horcruxes are considered one of the darkest forms of magic. Pure evil. Healing something like that is different to curing Basilisk venom. And a clash between something that dark and Fawkes (literally the exact opposite) might have caused some unfavorable reaction.
Besides, Snape only managed to temporarily trap the curse in Dumbledore's hand, and he's an expert on both potions and the Dark Arts, not to mention that he knew Voldemort quite 'intimately', which may have been useful. If there was some way to cure the curse he probably would have known.
They don’t need to die or leave Hogwarts at the end if the year, they just need to not be DADA teacher consecutively after that year when they were DADA teacher.
Snape was DADA teacher in HBP but he didn’t die or leave Hogwarts at the end of that year. He was Headmaster of Hogwarts the next year.
the marauders fan in me; “meh f snivellus”
I don't blame snape wanting to pick, but if James was still there, I'd know for a FACT James is his first thought 😂
i think that he played this as he played bulling students to show that he is badguy and voldemort would bellived that he is still on his side
Ok I'm 15 not an adult but damn thats dark even for Snape
It doesn't tell how badly he wants out of Dumbledore's control. It tells how badly he wanted out of a life in a world where Lily was dead.
I always thought of it as Snape wanting to protect the others from being cursed.
Untrue. He would’ve done anything to protect Lily’s son despite how much he hated James. That’s why he begged D to help him.
ok but his death made a lot of people to cry 😢 😭
I seriously hope there’s no sev haters here bc it feels like heaven living amongst peeps who love him and understand him
I also think that Dumbledore also knew (obviously) about the curse and didn’t want to let go of severous
Snape would have not wanted that if lily didn't die😭
And now you also realize that because Dumbledore is a genius he knew that Snape knew about the curse so he wouldn't give it to him because he needs Snape to kill him and then him to explain everything to Harry after his death😢
Actually snae littterally was so loyal to dumbledore he litterrally saved harry like a million times he didnt want to die
“I wish I where dead “-Severus snape , Harry Potter and the deathly hallows
I’m sorry for him having to suffer through that pain. He didn’t care for his own life and gave the care he deserved to harry, who wasn’t even his child. Severus just needed someone to hold him and love him and understand him. He never had that. This is also why he probably put himself in danger to protect Harry from Lupin in POA.
Or maybe he didn’t value his life any longer because Lily died. I think he was too proud to kill himself but wanted to die to “be with Lily”.
or out of his guilt and pain
or maybe he was genius who could've broken tbe curse even albus couldn't and planned to do it as soon he got it and let the others pay the prize for taking his dream job
Love the theory! Never thought about it that way! Really coooool! Keep it upppp!
I had a theory that Dumbledore was weaponizing the curse to expose and oust the inconpetent ones. It fits for Quirrell and Lockhart.
But it falls apart. Lupin was great. Dumbledore didn't know that Moody was actually BCJ, and both real Moody and polyjuiced BCJ were great. Umbridge was a plant that Dumbledore had no say over. And Snape had to move to the next phase of the mission at the end of the year/after Dumbledore's death.
And dumbledore knew that so he did not let him be a dada teacher as he needs him
Maybe that’s why in the last movie, (move 7 pt 2) when he died, he was kind of calm and didn’t seem afraid.
Wow that is actually a pretty clever realization. Good thinking. And thank you for making me cry lol.
Thats one of the reasons im not a huge fan of dumbledore. He not only raised harry like a pig going to slaughter, he also waited to the “right” time to give Snape his wish to be the DADA professor. Yet another parallel between Snape and Harrys lives. J K Rowling is a genius at weaving together an epic story!
Stop. Im. Sobbing. Right. Now.
I think he just wanted his life back PERIOD he was used as a puppet most of his life via either dumbledore, voldemort and the death eaters etc... poor guy just wanted it all to be over 😢
and the fact that severus would have began teaching almost immediately after graduation makes it even more tragic. when harry began attending he was only in his 20's. and considering severus' childhood and background, there's huge potential for dumbledore to have been grooming him for over a decade and into that position in the first place.
Quick correction, Snape was about 21 when he started teaching at Hogwarts. He was 31 in Harry's first year.
I always thought he wanted the job as he found a way to break the curse, also meaning nobody else would have to suffer the fate of past teachers taking the post
I actually realized this as a kid and my little mind couldn’t take it 😢
Yeah i realized that as a teen when i reread the books and was like oh my god.
Snape said it himself that Dumbledore used him
It means sometimes we are humble but sometimes we are rude😮
This made me realize that wants you said let that absorb. I sent it to my Harry Potter loveing friend cause if I am going to be sad she is going to be sad with me
and think about this, he was working for both sides right and both sides killed the love of his life, voldemort with the actual killing and dumbledore with failing to protect her. he just wanted to be with her, he protected harry for as long as he could
Severus wanted the position so he could be reunited with Lily 😭
bro its been like 5mins and my face is still stuck in a shocked expression😭😭😭
Snape Snape Severus Snape
Ive been a harry potter fan since i was 7 years old, im now 19 and will be 20 in a few months. And i only realised this NOW. Literally thank you omg
Having the position does not imply dying.
Actually, the only one who died at the end of the year was Quirell (and Barty if you count him but he was an usurper and Moody had accepted the job for only one year anyway).
Or he thought with his knowledge of the Dark Arts he could beat the curse.
Bro really said I dont want to do this anymore
when you finished i was like dam😮😮😮
Wow and it’s 3am I see this it’s really is great way to start my day 😊
🤯 holy shit! I never knew this plot and character information! Reading books really does make such a difference versus just watching a movie or tv show!
Whoa... I never thought about it like that. That's kind of dark.
I’m gonna be up till midnight thinking about this😂😢
Snape is the best and tragic hero
She be hitting me with all these facts I didn't know
He didn’t have the only person he was living for and he saw that person out of reach everyday, (harry) that traumatizing and I would want the same thing.
Severus Snape wanted to teach D.A.D.A. for years, but Albus Dumbledore denied him the job repeatedly, partly for fear of Snape straying back towards the darkness, and partly to keep him around for longer, given the curse on the position. I doubt Snape would want to die before Harry, He loved Lily so much that he’d do anything for her even after death which would be Protecting Harry also not to forget he also owed James Potter for when James saved Snape from werewolf Lupin.
I recently had a hilarious realisation about snape (I’m a snape hater but I don’t think it matters too much in this sense)
Snape famously hated the marauders.
So he was living his life relatively happy because they were all out of his life: one in prison, two dead and one somewhere doing something but away from snape so he wasn’t too bothered.
Now in a few years time he ended up teaching Harry who famously looked like James, then Lupin returned to Hogwarts and they had to work together, being actual colleagues (and then later he’d interact with him regularly through the order) then he found out Peter was alive and Sirius was out of prison and he had to interact with them both: in the order with Sirius and on death eater meetings with Peter. He was probably losing sleep every night expecting James to resurrect somehow and come back to kick his arse😂
Here's the saddest fact about Snape:
He died a virgin.
I like this theory but also could have thought that he could beat voldermorts curse as he is a very powerful wizard himself and understood the dark arts very well
Remus was going to stay as the dada teacher but he thougth of the parents concern on the kids tacher being a werewolf
Dang, this feels like us hating on squidwards as oppose to spongebob or Patric. Then becoming/understanding him when we grow older..
You made me cryyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Basically no one knew Tom Riddle applied for the job and Dumbledore only guessed at the fact Voldemort cursed. So no, it wasn’t common knowledge and Snape wanted the job because he was good at it and liked that job.
another way to read it is that Snape knew 1st hand just how fanatical and dangerous the forces Voldemort would send against Harry, he also took of his oath over Lilly's corpse to do his best to protect her son which was reaffirmed later with Albus ... so he wanted the job so he could teach Harry how to look after himself, because oaths and pacts sealed in blood and on the spirits of the dead are some seriously powerful magic!
Holy crap I genuinely never thought of this one!
Jesus - never thought about it like that! Appreciate the new insight
I immediately thought of the scene in the movie where umbridge questions snape and she says "you initially applied for the dark arts position." And then " but you were unsuccessful?" Like if id known this information that scene would have been very different
Another option is that he felt that he could defeat the curse.
for years nothing happened and Dumbledore never asked him to do anything in that time because Voldemort was weak. So for 10 years he was in a very comfortable position with Dumbledore's protection against the Death Eaters, there's no way he wanted out in that time. He applied every year because 1. he didn't know it was cursed or 2. to keep the front that he "wanted the job" so when Voldemort came back, he had an excuse.
It was until the events of the 6th book, that he started to feel it was too much and even then, he didn't abandoned Dumbledore because of Lily.
I'll just save this video and watch it 10 years llater😂😂
Me: Flip the theory *did she just open a coke can with a spoon*