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Can you please go back to your original intro? The music and the hand print, yellow tape and blood dripping from "Truly Criminal"?? It's so haunting....so much better. PLEASE???
Would you please put the basic details of the story in the description. Sometimes half way through I want to check the date, names, location it happened etc.
@@sebastianelytron8450 pull your tongue out of her ar*e mate! She's guilty end of story simple as that. She even wrote a letter of admission of guilt to her solicitor and claimed self defense all of a sudden!
It seems amazing that you can spend 14 years in prison and then just start your life all over again. She now has a new husband. What does Lee have. If this was in the US she would have received more time. I am struggling in life and she is thriving. Something is not right.
Chronic sexism in the justice system. Women get WAY less prison time for committing the same crimes as men do, in the US and UK an CAD and AU. It's despicable.
Granted bail, life sentence with 14 years, now released and a new husband, I seriously am at a LOSS how the judge served this? Are UK Judges ok? I wonder if they would hand the same sentence if their own son were murdered!!!! So frustrating hearing this. She shows zero remorse. Ugh this ruined my mood.
I just don’t get why they even use the phrase. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ LIFE in prison should mean you stay there until you DIE in prison- LIFE- as in you took one- you don’t get to have one.
I just want to compliment you on your channel & how you present your content. Your voice, the delivery, the accuracy of your information, the subtle eerie background music, the style in which you feature photos/videos, & the way you implement news pieces that pertain to a case, be it written documents or reporting from news anchors, it’s all so well executed. Thank you. You are one of my favorite channels.🥇🏆🥇
I agree with you. It's just so frustrating that people don't seem to understand that dead equals dead. These overreactions to simple things that lead to someone's death... Then the judge/jury just let them off! I don't know what to say about it.
I am very angry that this woman can go free after 14 years, the parents of Lee have lost theirs son forever and so has his daughter, she has lost her father forever. But the slapper Traci or whatever she is called now can get married ( brave man who married her) and live a life in freedom.
14 years?? FOURTEEN F****** YEARS??? HOW? Ppl can get 14 years for drug offences ffs. I don't know what's more disgusting...what she did...or what the "justice" system did??!! They let her out on bail after being charged with with MURDER, then after she was CONVICTED, they let her out of prison after just FOURTEEN YEARS time served??
"No need to ruin someone's whole life if they only MURDERED someone...Let her out in 14 years" - "Screw the victims" Mentality in the UK, Canada, Australia, NZ
Oldest story in every manipulative controlling womans life is "I'm pregnant", then "I had a miscarriage". But. Why do people think a baby can repair a damaged relationship? Babies only cause more stress and hardships for those already suffering. Having a baby is the very last thing they need. So sick and tired of woman popping out kids only to make them suffer being tossed around between two immature irresponsible adults.
As soon as my son was at the appropriate age to discuss it with him, I stressed that he NEVER EVER take a females word that she is on the pill, or for whatever reason she gives that she can’t get pregnant. If he isn’t ready to be a father, it’s up to him to make sure it doesn’t happen.
This woman truly is a monster. Really reminds me of Karla Homolka. My heart aches for Lee's parents and daughter. How Andrews was released after just 14 years for such a violent murder is incomprehensible. RIP Lee ❤️ Thank you for another amazing video. You are fast becoming one of my favourite true crime channels. Keep up the incredible work!
14 years for viciously ending the life of this young son and father ??? This is outraging !!! she got out, got married and is living her life to the fullest. I feel sorry for his daughter and parents.
That's why ppl, you don't go back to your abuse relationship multiple times and hoping that it would get better. It will get worsen if you insist on continuing on with your abusive partner. Walk away while you can. She's a psycho and it's unfortunate for lee that he didn't managed to get away
@Liv G I think we all r acutely aware of this, I would however mind people to steer clear of any advice from a clown with bad grammar -super creepy 😂😂😂
@@susanleslie4809 well, i do expect this kind of comment from certain 'type' of ppl like you. Different kind of psycho, don't u think. Oh yeah, don't take some advice from some clown, bla3, they are the bad ones. Lol
You're by far the best narrator on UA-cam! I'm a communication skills expert & hold interventions for my corporate clients. Your diction, tone, voice, word-emphasis, are all just amazing. You should start a true crime podcast, it'll be an instant success. The only other narrator that's somewhat in your league is Paranormal Scholar channel. It's an absolute delight to listen to you! Fantastic work ❤️
@@meddena I had not heard of this channel and so i went over to listen...He's good but makes the same common mistake of believing that quick speaking is good narration which just isn't true. Narrative is about your audience's comprehension & not about your quick reading/speaking ability!
@@twinny555 She stabbed the man over forty times. That's a psychopath. You can't rehabilitate a psychopath. Don't be dense. She got off lightly because of her gender.
She changed her name to Jenna Stephens. Tracie eventually met Phil Goldsworthy, 52,at work and convinced him to separate from his wife. Goldsworthy“s wife left the family homel and Tracie happily moved in. ,They got married, and is currently living with Phil Goldsworthy and his four children. I fear for those kids! Poor Lee 💔 In 2010 Danielle Harvey Lee's daughter and Karla Andrews Tracie's daughter found each other on Facebook and now are friends on social media,they were also pregnant at the same time!
Waited & was looking forward & saw it posted 30 seconds ago! I've always enjoyed your channel. Thank you very much for the compassionate & meticulous reporting. Greetings from Sweden!
Wait, a criminal was allowed to change her name? How does that protect others? I hope her husband was informed prior to marrying her, coz with her temperament...
You cannot even tell your spouse that your neighbour is on a list of paedo's if you obtain the info from the police. You cannot warn your other neighbours etc.
Wise after the event she presented as normal he accepted that it's a disservice to assume those with issues are ALL potential killers one cant generalise too much
I remember this when it happened! That photo of her at the press conference with black eyes was all over the front pages of the newspapers! I’m sure one of the headlines at the time was that she looked like a character from a cheap horror film!
Thing is there is many females like her that get away with how they treat guys today. She is already free and carrying on her life. If it was the other way round the guy would have gotten a longer sentence . Its how she lied and used her looks to try and cone everyone.
There's no evidence that it was pre-meditated. That isn't to say that it wasn't just that there's no basis for you asserting that so confidently. It's just as plausible, given her personality, that this was a crime of the heat the moment and the Swiss army knife was lying around the car and used in the heat of the moment.
People can say what they like about the length of the sentence, how in the hell does that judge sleep at night to say that Tracie wasn't a potential threat to anyone when she's on trial for murder?!
I remember a similar case where a woman killed her ex bf cause he broke up with her. The judge released her cause she “wasnt a threat.” She went on to kill herself and her own kid when she was out. Absolutely psychotic
Nice change up. I remember this crime being played out as it happen. I was 13. I didn't pay much attention to it but remember my parents talking about it and reading the news papers about it.
The content you two provide is about the best in the genre. I've posted it before, but this channel went to the top of my listafter watching two videos. This channel is going places. Please don't change. You're on to a brilliant thing, and people love it
We lived in a town about 15 mins away from where they lived, and I remember my mom saying she (Tracie) randomly came up to her when she was up the town and said how cute my brother was who was in a pushchair. Not long after she done what she did, my mom said it makes her skin crawl to think she met her 😣
You presentations are always impeccably.The research undertaken is always evident in the accuracy in the information presented. The sensitivity and empathy for the victims and their loved ones is so well done. Thank you for your videos. This channel is the most superior criminal channel imo.
it didn’t seem like it at first but after thinking about it: a swiss army knife is a brutal murder weapon. not because of the damage it would cause but the damage it would NOT cause. that would take dedication and would be horrifically intimate.
She hid it in one of her boots, and later disposed of it down the hospital’s toilet. Must have had to wrap in toilet paper. The mark the blood left in her boot was indicative of the knife. So how she went on to keep to her story is puzzling.
I will never understand how sentences can be so lenient for such horrific crimes☹like at least shouldn't they be serving more than drug dealers and thieves. & their lack of remorse should also be part of any parole consideration
Psychopaths are more likely to be released on parole early because they lie very convincingly about their remorse and how they have rehabilitated and will cause no future threat
So happy you uploaded. Recently found the channel and binged it so I was sad when I watched them all. You really should have more subscribers you do a lot of research and work to make these videos 💕
I went on a country walk earlier this year and ended up walking past Keepers Cottage and at the time I didn’t realise this was the spot where Lee was murdered. Only some weeks after, I realised the significance of where I’d walked. This is only a few miles from where I live and it reminded me of this awful incident. I know people that went to school with Tracie back in the day at Bridley Moor school in Redditch. RIP Lee. Such a sad case.
I knew Tracey and remember her working in Redditch Kingfisher Centre selling fake perfume. Also a very good friend of mine dated Tracey's younger sister. Andrew's should still be inside instead she has been given a new life etc at the tax payer's expense. British justice is shocking.
Tracie's brother, Lee, was a close friend of mine. We worked together. In 2010 we went to Germany together. I met Tracie's daughter when she was a baby. I met Tracie's mother. I never met Tracie.
I watch a lot of True Crime on UA-cam so was surprised to only find your channel in recent months to which I quickly subscribed. I really like how you present these cases. You've fast become one of my favourite channels on UA-cam and I look forward to your Saturday night cases. Well done on the sponsor, first of many I bet.
I’ve been binging your channel for the past few days. Thank you for all the free content! Your scripts are extremely well written and stand lengths above other seemingly similar channels.
i didn't wanna use the word evil cuz i'm all about body language and psychology but I saw evil in this woman.. it really bothered me during that press clip..her eyes are frightening
@@kimmyfreak200 you ain't kidding Kim , it's all wrong , all things considered , it's obviously cold and self serving. She must be a tough bitch too , he didn't look like a pushover . Straight in the neck or the face from this one then the rest eh. I say track her down and see how she's going publically. Update says what. Change her life immediately.
I came across your channel during a search for true crime related items. Your narration is wonderful, and the pace is perfect. A very fantastic video. This stuff isn't easy, I'm sure. Thank you for the time invested.
“It was self defence” yet has no wounds on her or barely any damage… and he has stab wounds on his *back* ? Sick when you do something like that and you can’t even take ownership and accept responsibility. And the justice system let her in this situation.. 14 years?!?
14 years, my God. How cheap has life become in our court system. She is a monster and evil. I didn't get Lee's infatuation, but he had issues, too. All that fighting, WOW!
I've been a subscriber for less than 6 months and I can say without a doubt that this is the best crime related youtube channel I have ever encountered upon or been subscribed to. You always present the cases with the utmost respect and sensitivity. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into these videos, it's highly appreciated.
I remember this case, she is a absolute monster, my thoughts are still with Lee's family, and his daughter Danielle. . Great upload, as always respectful, empathic and compassionate.
Thanks for another video. I split the top of my finger with a hedge trimmer and waiting in the ER and this is the best way to take my mind away. ❤ love from Ireland 🇮🇪 -Toxsik Prophet
As Sad as this is, the poor child left behind,once knowing her parent's see not any of them,is very sad for the child.Children are victim's too, in a silent way.Their memmories will alway's be there.
Lee looks a lot like my brother in law :( Sorta hits differently when the victims in these stories look so similar to family members :( Lee deserved so much better and so does his daughter, who had to grow up without her father :(
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Can you please go back to your original intro? The music and the hand print, yellow tape and blood dripping from "Truly Criminal"?? It's so haunting....so much better. PLEASE???
Would you please put the basic details of the story in the description. Sometimes half way through I want to check the date, names, location it happened etc.
this woman gave the meaning of" if i can't have him, no one will." to a whole different level.
just 14 yrs for Cold Blooded MURDER...she's just a leopard trying to change spots
Boy do I detest the leniency of the British justice system.
How she could sit holding his poor mums hand...telling her bullshit. Knowing what she did. Truly sick!
Don't be quick to judge. There is only circumstantial evidence pointing to her guilt.
@@sebastianelytron8450 *She admitted it idiot*
@@sebastianelytron8450 pull your tongue out of her ar*e mate! She's guilty end of story simple as that. She even wrote a letter of admission of guilt to her solicitor and claimed self defense all of a sudden!
@@sebastianelytron8450 She did it, simp.
@@sebastianelytron8450 and the partially true confession...
It seems amazing that you can spend 14 years in prison and then just start your life all over again. She now has a new husband. What does Lee have. If this was in the US she would have received more time. I am struggling in life and she is thriving. Something is not right.
Chronic sexism in the justice system. Women get WAY less prison time for committing the same crimes as men do, in the US and UK an CAD and AU. It's despicable.
I honestly understand how you feel. It seems like that's life: the good people suffer and the bad ones prosper
Granted bail, life sentence with 14 years, now released and a new husband, I seriously am at a LOSS how the judge served this? Are UK Judges ok? I wonder if they would hand the same sentence if their own son were murdered!!!! So frustrating hearing this. She shows zero remorse. Ugh this ruined my mood.
"Life in prison" doesn't mean much in Britain, does it?
I just don’t get why they even use the phrase. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
LIFE in prison should mean you stay there until you DIE in prison- LIFE- as in you took one- you don’t get to have one.
The fact that she was white, blonde and attractive definitely made a difference. That light sentence for such a violent murder is a joke.
Usually the short sentence, part of the 'life' sentence means you go before the parole board. If so, they got manipulated into setting her free.
Josi : it doesn't mean much anywhere else my dear.
@@JorgePetraglia2009 it does in America
I just want to compliment you on your channel & how you present your content. Your voice, the delivery, the accuracy of your information, the subtle eerie background music, the style in which you feature photos/videos, & the way you implement news pieces that pertain to a case, be it written documents or reporting from news anchors, it’s all so well executed. Thank you. You are one of my favorite channels.🥇🏆🥇
i couldnt agree more
Spot on,great channel
Well said !
I agree I love watching these and you don't use bells and whistles to get the people interested. Great Job
She doesn't sensationalise and I appreciate that, she narrates really well, makes housework a lot more enjoyable!
Another entitled person took an innocent man’s life and gets away with it. Basically it’s a slap on the face for Lee’s family with that sentence!
I agree with you. It's just so frustrating that people don't seem to understand that dead equals dead. These overreactions to simple things that lead to someone's death... Then the judge/jury just let them off! I don't know what to say about it.
Just devastating. She only served 14 years for murder. That's just wrong. God bless him and his family.
she did serve her recommended sentence though...
Wow...it's horrific that she is able to be out of jail and live her life freely after what she did.
I am very angry that this woman can go free after 14 years, the parents of Lee have lost theirs son forever and so has his daughter, she has lost her father forever. But the slapper Traci or whatever she is called now can get married ( brave man who married her) and live a life in freedom.
I hope the other prisoners make her life hell.
They are much softer in the UK than the US. She would have gotten a minimum of 25 yrs.
Women.
I think the rules for allowing someone out on parole have been strengthened.
He probably didn't know who she was and what she had done before he married her.
14 years?? FOURTEEN F****** YEARS??? HOW? Ppl can get 14 years for drug offences ffs. I don't know what's more disgusting...what she did...or what the "justice" system did??!! They let her out on bail after being charged with with MURDER, then after she was CONVICTED, they let her out of prison after just FOURTEEN YEARS time served??
"No need to ruin someone's whole life if they only MURDERED someone...Let her out in 14 years" - "Screw the victims" Mentality in the UK, Canada, Australia, NZ
When you bring unstable, psychotic people into your life, your family pays the price with you.
Perfectly put.
That's true. Just look at the mess Meghan Markle is causing having married Prince Harry. It's scary
@@vmm5163 His life has been shit from day one 🙄
@@georgia8592 Harry is still exploiting his "shit" life. He wants the "shit" money, his "shit" titles and his "shit" prestige
This is so true.
14 years in prison for such a violent crime is a miscarriage of JUSTICE!! SHE WILL BE JUDGED...
The court system will as well. Just sickening
Oldest story in every manipulative controlling womans life is "I'm pregnant", then "I had a miscarriage". But. Why do people think a baby can repair a damaged relationship? Babies only cause more stress and hardships for those already suffering. Having a baby is the very last thing they need. So sick and tired of woman popping out kids only to make them suffer being tossed around between two immature irresponsible adults.
They don't think as far as "How do we raise a baby and provide for it". They only think as far as "when I am pregnant, he won't leave".
So the guy has nothing to do in making her pregnant?
@@vmm5163 not, if she pokes holes in the condoms and lies about taking the pill/having an IUD.
As soon as my son was at the appropriate age to discuss it with him, I stressed that he NEVER EVER take a females word that she is on the pill, or for whatever reason she gives that she can’t get pregnant. If he isn’t ready to be a father, it’s up to him to make sure it doesn’t happen.
@@vmm5163 Not if she lied about it to keep him around, genius...
14 Years. The UK Justice system strikes again.
This woman truly is a monster. Really reminds me of Karla Homolka. My heart aches for Lee's parents and daughter. How Andrews was released after just 14 years for such a violent murder is incomprehensible. RIP Lee ❤️ Thank you for another amazing video. You are fast becoming one of my favourite true crime channels. Keep up the incredible work!
Oh, you are right. She is very much similar to Karla. That is creepy as hell.
That's who she reminds me of, I couldn't place it - Karla Holmolka - to a T!
Yeah, Karla Homolka is also out and remarried with children.
Also, she reminds me of Courteney Lowe (the wife of Kurt Cobain)
Yes, as a mum of two adult sons, she is the last person Id want to see through the door, she is awful 🤔
14 years for viciously ending the life of this young son and father ??? This is outraging !!! she got out, got married and is living her life to the fullest. I feel sorry for his daughter and parents.
I wondered if she had had an abortion when you said she told them she fell and had a miscarriage! I feel so sad for Lee's parents. So much loss.
I said something similar, she killed that baby
Or maybe she wasn't pregnant at all!
@@BurnItUpp2009 hmmm good point, I wonder if she was even around him during this time,if she even had a bump?!
She said she had an abortion
Shannon
It came out she had aborted lee's baby.
That's why ppl, you don't go back to your abuse relationship multiple times and hoping that it would get better. It will get worsen if you insist on continuing on with your abusive partner. Walk away while you can. She's a psycho and it's unfortunate for lee that he didn't managed to get away
@Liv G I think we all r acutely aware of this, I would however mind people to steer clear of any advice from a clown with bad grammar -super creepy 😂😂😂
@@susanleslie4809 well, i do expect this kind of comment from certain 'type' of ppl like you. Different kind of psycho, don't u think. Oh yeah, don't take some advice from some clown, bla3, they are the bad ones. Lol
@susanleslie4809 speaking of bad grammar, it’s ‘we are all’ not ‘we all r’, dumbo.
@@susanleslie4809 What a stupid comment.
Not nearly enough time served, she should have gotten life no chance of parole!!! She's a witch!! RIP🙏🙏
That's offensive to witches everywhere.
When you said she married I was shocked…I hope whoever she’s married to doesn’t have the same outcome.
Most men are just glad to be with a pretty female,they wouldn't leave even if evidence of such a situation was right in front of them🤦♀️
@@Texas_Made_ u think she’s pretty 😂
@@leaplingpuff no she is not.
@@leaplingpuff She's vile looking 🤣
Whatever fate awaits him, he chose it freely and willingly, so I don't really care... To each his own...
You're by far the best narrator on UA-cam! I'm a communication skills expert & hold interventions for my corporate clients. Your diction, tone, voice, word-emphasis, are all just amazing. You should start a true crime podcast, it'll be an instant success. The only other narrator that's somewhat in your league is Paranormal Scholar channel. It's an absolute delight to listen to you! Fantastic work ❤️
I'd say Mike from that chapter is pretty damn awesome as well
Simon from The Casual Criminalist is also great 🙃
@@meddena I had not heard of this channel and so i went over to listen...He's good but makes the same common mistake of believing that quick speaking is good narration which just isn't true. Narrative is about your audience's comprehension & not about your quick reading/speaking ability!
@@fannycrumplebuns538 hahaha good one
I don't find the delivery very natural at all. There's a reason why people with this kind of delivery don't make it onto TV or film narration.
14 YEARS FOR MURDER?!? That’s 🤬 up. Wow 😮 Poor guy’s family.
Great job!
Terrific job, as always. What is with the short minimum sentences there-14 year served? That's crazy.
Mitigating circumstances, efforts towards rehabilitation, second chances. People make mistakes.
@@twinny555 nobody who murders (out of cold blood) or rapes deserves another second chance
@@twinny555 because this was premeditated, I think she got off lightly and probably because she is a woman.
@@twinny555 She stabbed the man over forty times. That's a psychopath. You can't rehabilitate a psychopath. Don't be dense. She got off lightly because of her gender.
Someone should tell the UK justice system that 14 years isn't life in prison... That's a joke and an insult to the deceased and his family.
The way she looks up at the media… her face says she’s guilty as hell.
She changed her name to Jenna Stephens.
Tracie eventually met Phil Goldsworthy, 52,at work and convinced him to separate from his wife. Goldsworthy“s wife left the family homel and Tracie happily moved in.
,They got married, and is currently living with Phil Goldsworthy and his four children. I fear for those kids!
Poor Lee 💔
In 2010 Danielle Harvey Lee's daughter and Karla Andrews Tracie's daughter found each other on Facebook and now are friends on social media,they were also pregnant at the same time!
Waited & was looking forward & saw it posted 30 seconds ago! I've always enjoyed your channel. Thank you very much for the compassionate & meticulous reporting. Greetings from Sweden!
Aap Sweden se hai kya?? Aap kaha mein rehte hoo Sweden mein!!???
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Wait, a criminal was allowed to change her name? How does that protect others? I hope her husband was informed prior to marrying her, coz with her temperament...
It's normal procedure
It is a common thing in the UK. Criminals identities can be changed on leaving prison.
You cannot even tell your spouse that your neighbour is on a list of paedo's if you obtain the info from the police. You cannot warn your other neighbours etc.
Stop dating unstable people. The outcome is always bitter.
Not always. People can get on medication to control their symptoms.
Sorry, got to agree with Vincent on this one.
Wise after the event she presented as normal he accepted that it's a disservice to assume those with issues are ALL potential killers one cant generalise too much
I'm trying, been clean now for two and half years.
I don't really comment on UA-cam channels, but this one truly deserves praise!
This woman should not have been let out of prison after 14 years life means life i feel for lee s family RIP Lee 🙏
I remember this when it happened!
That photo of her at the press conference with black eyes was all over the front pages of the newspapers! I’m sure one of the headlines at the time was that she looked like a character from a cheap horror film!
That scene of her holding Maureens hands while she is absolutely spewing statements full of shit is heartbreaking
How disgusting it is watching her manipulate his family. Heartbreaking!!!!!
Premeditated murder.......she was never going to let that poor guy go and have a life without her.
Thing is there is many females like her that get away with how they treat guys today. She is already free and carrying on her life. If it was the other way round the guy would have gotten a longer sentence . Its how she lied and used her looks to try and cone everyone.
I truly believe it was calculated!! Also I certainly cannot imagine what his family has gone through!!
There's no evidence that it was pre-meditated. That isn't to say that it wasn't just that there's no basis for you asserting that so confidently. It's just as plausible, given her personality, that this was a crime of the heat the moment and the Swiss army knife was lying around the car and used in the heat of the moment.
A model...? 😂😂😂
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She is ridiculous and delusional!
She looks like Nancy Spungen.
A model T Ford, perhaps... 🤔
The word model is thrown around far to loosely these days! Lol
One of the Best true crime channel on UA-cam In my opinion. So entertaining keep it up
I am really beginning to get to like this channel now! It's well into my top 5 or maybe even top 3 now! Great, research and great work friends!
People can say what they like about the length of the sentence, how in the hell does that judge sleep at night to say that Tracie wasn't a potential threat to anyone when she's on trial for murder?!
I remember a similar case where a woman killed her ex bf cause he broke up with her. The judge released her cause she “wasnt a threat.” She went on to kill herself and her own kid when she was out. Absolutely psychotic
Anzi è proprio in casi come questo che una donna è un pericolo mortale per altri.
The UK needs to make their murder sentences more longer, like life! 14 years is a joke, and a slap to the face of the victims family…
She will not spend all that time in prison either.
Nice change up. I remember this crime being played out as it happen. I was 13. I didn't pay much attention to it but remember my parents talking about it and reading the news papers about it.
14 years, what a joke. Good job criminal justice system of the UK.
I want to compliment you on the transparent way you introduced your sponsor...That makes a HUGH difference...!
Absolutely loving this channel, but can’t agree with you on this one. Hate being interrupted to hear about a sponsor. Put it at the end or something.
Thank you so Truly Criminal for another extremely interesting case!!! I absolutely adore your videos!!!
The content you two provide is about the best in the genre. I've posted it before, but this channel went to the top of my listafter watching two videos. This channel is going places. Please don't change. You're on to a brilliant thing, and people love it
Thank you so much for your kind words, Les!
We lived in a town about 15 mins away from where they lived, and I remember my mom saying she (Tracie) randomly came up to her when she was up the town and said how cute my brother was who was in a pushchair. Not long after she done what she did, my mom said it makes her skin crawl to think she met her 😣
Same woman
You presentations are always impeccably.The research undertaken is always evident in the accuracy in the information presented. The sensitivity and empathy for the victims and their loved ones is so well done.
Thank you for your videos.
This channel is the most superior criminal channel imo.
I shared English classes with Tracie at school. So glad that was the totality of my association with her.
My wife went to school with her at Bridley Moor. She said Tracie never fitted in and was quite an insecure and “mousy” person.
it didn’t seem like it at first but after thinking about it: a swiss army knife is a brutal murder weapon. not because of the damage it would cause but the damage it would NOT cause. that would take dedication and would be horrifically intimate.
She hid it in one of her boots, and later disposed of it down the hospital’s toilet. Must have had to wrap in toilet paper. The mark the blood left in her boot was indicative of the knife. So how she went on to keep to her story is puzzling.
A real narcissist, that thing! Wanted to be a model? Delusional! Remember this, at the time. Tragic for the family.
She is a controlling evil abusive woman . I feel so sorry for Lee . RIP
I will never understand how sentences can be so lenient for such horrific crimes☹like at least shouldn't they be serving more than drug dealers and thieves. & their lack of remorse should also be part of any parole consideration
Psychopaths are more likely to be released on parole early because they lie very convincingly about their remorse and how they have rehabilitated and will cause no future threat
I’ve watched, this is Monsters and Explore with us. Some how this channel popped up on my phone earlier today. Glad it did!♥️
I follow those too. You should check out That Chapter. He's awesome!
@@angelab904 couldn’t agree more, Mike from That Chapter is brilliant, binge watched everything on his channel
@@amandasherlockhewkin3743 me too - some of That Chapter’s I’ve had on dozens of times. I hope he get YT credit for all those re-watches!!! Lol
So happy you uploaded. Recently found the channel and binged it so I was sad when I watched them all. You really should have more subscribers you do a lot of research and work to make these videos 💕
You deserve more followers! Your content is complete, well documented and easy to comprehend. I intend you get more followers now.
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kiss much arse?
What a toxic woman.. I feel terrible for Lees Mom.
she reminds me of katherine knight... minus the whole cannibal dismemberment thing
The judge has some loose screws.
Going to a pub always clams things down
Alcohol makes a bad situation worse.
Damn, thought it oystered things down. Harhar
Makes you wonder what he possibly saw in her to keep the relationship going for that long 🤔
My love the answer is simple thrry liked the same way of living Both toxic
LOOKS!
@@Texas_Made_ She didn’t look that good though
@@michellepaul8514 her skills in bed, she doesn’t have to be pretty just put out a lot
Sack animal .
If she was ever a ‘model’, then I’m the King of Siam.
Your videos are so well done.
No silly speech affectations, or bad editing.
They're factual, and you manage to cover so much detail. Thank you!
Sickens me when cold blooded murders get to live free lives. That should never happen. They took a life, they have no right to live freely 🤬
The British justices system is down right shit letting a killer out in 14 years.
I went on a country walk earlier this year and ended up walking past Keepers Cottage and at the time I didn’t realise this was the spot where Lee was murdered. Only some weeks after, I realised the significance of where I’d walked. This is only a few miles from where I live and it reminded me of this awful incident. I know people that went to school with Tracie back in the day at Bridley Moor school in Redditch. RIP Lee. Such a sad case.
I knew Tracey and remember her working in Redditch Kingfisher Centre selling fake perfume. Also a very good friend of mine dated Tracey's younger sister. Andrew's should still be inside instead she has been given a new life etc at the tax payer's expense. British justice is shocking.
Tracie's brother, Lee, was a close friend of mine. We worked together. In 2010 we went to Germany together. I met Tracie's daughter when she was a baby. I met Tracie's mother. I never met Tracie.
Her eyes tell the story. Something ain't right with home girl.
A big hello from Denmark 🇩🇰 Love your channel 👍☺️
People need to leave toxic relationships ASAP. Life is way too short. Please leave. 😔
Wow no shit?
I watch a lot of True Crime on UA-cam so was surprised to only find your channel in recent months to which I quickly subscribed. I really like how you present these cases. You've fast become one of my favourite channels on UA-cam and I look forward to your Saturday night cases.
Well done on the sponsor, first of many I bet.
I’ve been binging your channel for the past few days. Thank you for all the free content! Your scripts are extremely well written and stand lengths above other seemingly similar channels.
Thats a slap on the wrist for such a violent crime.
Great work on this. Not sure if any audio editing was done to the press conference clips, but if so - my ears are thankful.
Love that you girls keep the level of respect for the passed on, and their families high.
14 years what a joke, no punishment in UK for anything!
Amazing video! Congrats on your sponsor!! You guys deserve some recognition for all your work.
Yup it's all in the eyes...
Her body language gives it all away, she's creepy alright.
Good work girls.
She really is evil, her eyes say it all! She definitely shouldn’t have been let out of prison!
i didn't wanna use the word evil cuz i'm all about body language and psychology but I saw evil in this woman.. it really bothered me during that press clip..her eyes are frightening
@@kimmyfreak200 clearly your absolutely on point.
You have to know one to see one.
I know G?P's turning to psychology .
Dogs balls innit?
@@kimmyfreak200 you ain't kidding Kim , it's all wrong , all things considered , it's obviously cold and self serving.
She must be a tough bitch too , he didn't look like a pushover .
Straight in the neck or the face from this one then the rest eh.
I say track her down and see how she's going publically.
Update says what.
Change her life immediately.
She definitely had the crazy eyes.. creepy
I came across your channel during a search for true crime related items. Your narration is wonderful, and the pace is perfect. A very fantastic video.
This stuff isn't easy, I'm sure. Thank you for the time invested.
She is released for brutally murdering her own fiance just after 14 years ?? Shame on the judge and system for letting this happen.Disgusting!!!
There is so much rage in that woman. God help her kids and husband. If it gets stressful enough she will snap again.
“It was self defence” yet has no wounds on her or barely any damage… and he has stab wounds on his *back* ?
Sick when you do something like that and you can’t even take ownership and accept responsibility. And the justice system let her in this situation.. 14 years?!?
14 years, my God. How cheap has life become in our court system. She is a monster and evil. I didn't get Lee's infatuation, but he had issues, too. All that fighting, WOW!
Just look how quickly you have grown since the very start!! Well done mate! Still loving your work.
So interesting. Perfectly prepared as always 👍greetings from Poland 🙂🙂🙂
Your voice makes me to continuing watching here and not washing my dishes 🤨😆 thanks!
14 years is an insult to lee and his family.
I've been a subscriber for less than 6 months and I can say without a doubt that this is the best crime related youtube channel I have ever encountered upon or been subscribed to.
You always present the cases with the utmost respect and sensitivity. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into these videos, it's highly appreciated.
I remember this case, she is a absolute monster, my thoughts are still with Lee's family, and his daughter Danielle. . Great upload, as always respectful, empathic and compassionate.
An old story, well told. What are we to do about toxic couples? Or, domestic violence. I fear for the children always, another damaged generation.
Thanks for another video. I split the top of my finger with a hedge trimmer and waiting in the ER and this is the best way to take my mind away. ❤ love from Ireland 🇮🇪 -Toxsik Prophet
Oh my goodness! Get well soon and take care of yourself!! 🖤🖤
@@TrulyCriminal Thank you I will. Amazing videos lovely reply ❤
Your channel is a banger for sure🌹 - Ontarian
How is life in prison a sentence of only 14yrs? Is it like getting out for good behavior? Wondering from the US.
*What part of that is justice?
As Sad as this is, the poor child left behind,once knowing her parent's see not any of them,is very sad for the child.Children are victim's too, in a silent way.Their memmories will alway's be there.
Hello Anita yes exactly u are absolutely right. But UNFORTUNATELY people never think like u
Im praying for Lee's family and daughter,
Lee looks a lot like my brother in law :( Sorta hits differently when the victims in these stories look so similar to family members :(
Lee deserved so much better and so does his daughter, who had to grow up without her father :(
I know, it’s so sad as he looks like my husband who is from the UK and I can’t imagine what the family went through :(
how do you kill someone & get out & start a life like nothing ever happened...
I was just thinking the exact same thing
A model? Hmm. That’s optimistic of her.
Fourteen years seems like an awfully small amount of time for murdering someone!
Yes, Bravo to you and sis on your channel, truly great work..! 🤎⚘🤍