@Svyatoslav Fastovetsky Is that a serious question? Because his father is not a man. He is a selfish coward that took it upon himself to decide when that boys mothers' life would cease for all eternity. And he did so because he couldn't handle the fact that he was losing his family due to consequences of his own actions. Because she refused to be his punching bag. The boy speaking about what he saw happen to his mom, when he must have been scared out of his mind was braver than his cowardly abusive fathers actions by miles and miles.
I consume A LOT of true crime UA-cam (and podcasts) and you are one of the best. You keep it serious and don’t joke, but your style, and voice, don’t make it overly depressing. You’ll have 200k+ subscribers in a matter of months, you deserve them.
Totally agree!! Very interesting the way she presents her cases, top-notch delivery, and such a soothing voice as well. She deserves -- and will get -- tons more subscribers!
"You were gentle, kind and caring and that meant the world to me" honestly scorched my heart. That's what's normal, that's how it should be, and to her it was something so extraordinary 😔 She deserved that happiness..
@@tankthearc9875 Sorry nobody wants to have sex with you, babe. Because why else, if you’re not just bitter, would you assume there is anything wrong with having sex on the first date? Sex isn’t some leverage to keep for later; it’s fun and pleasurable for consenting adults. Sex does not sully a woman and ruin her worth. Maybe if you weren’t such a misogynist you might have had a partner?
Ladies ... the first time a man puts you down, get out ... this is the first sign of an abuser. Never think that it is a 'one off' remark. It's just the beginning of what's to come. MAXIMUM RESPECT comes from a REAL MAN.
Well said. I think one of the best agreements to have in a relationship is to agree to "never fight dirty." Yell and swear if that's how you fight, but don't call each other anything or demean each other. (Of course, it's better to be calm than fight at all. Just making a rough comparison to the worst alternative.) That's the red flag right away. Arguments are normal and so is controlled anger. Abuse is abuse, and one time is one too many.
this is 100% true. same for friends - no one should ever put you down or be amused at you being sad/distressed/upset, period. if a friend or partner ever puts you down or tries to make you feel less than, you need to start packing because they are testing to see what you will put up with. there are no exceptions.
excellent advice! I wish I had followed that but at least my Son nd I made it out alive, unlike this tragic lady. Heartbreaking for her kids and other loved ones. I hope they all find some peace and healing together.
It baffles me! It's the same pattern. With just a simple apology women forgive their abusers the first few times. Then they get to a point where they are stuck in a nightmare! Worse still in most cases they do not seek help from anyone until in some cases sadly it's too late! I cannot get my head around that for the life of me!!!!
YES !!!!! I heard say that the most dangerous time for a domestic abuse victim is when they are leaving the relationship...and please - you can see the red flags early on in the relationship - they are there for a reason...do not try to tell yourself it will get better !! It will NOT...and once you leave do not look back. Do not let roses, sweet talk, and promises lure you back. Please.
Preferably before you bear him 2 kids which will, very predictably, ensure that you have to deal with him for the next 16 years when she could have left him for years beforehand. She has to shoulder some responsibility for making such mindnumbinglyu stupid life decisions when the writing was clearly on the wall with 10ft high illuminous paint.
@@neiljohnson8121 I totally agree. These women think that fatherhood will change him . I am not victim blaming , it is ALL the fault of the abusive coward . But as a woman why would you bring innocent lives into a world of abuse. That is not fair . If you accept the abuse as an adult woman it’s up to you but you don’t have the right to bring innocent children to that life imo . These so called men bully and abuse anyone vulnerable this very much includes children. These abused women who say he didn’t abuse the children aren’t telling the truth imo. They want to pretend that he was a good father and as a mother she hadn’t failed her children imo .
Said he enjoyed every minute of killing her? 20 years is not long enough, cold blooded, left 3 children motherless, lied under oath. I wouldn't doubt he'd hurt someone when he gets out. His anger will just fester in prison.....
As a child who grew up in an abusive home, I feel deeply for what happened to Natalie and her children. Domestic abusers do not change ..... they only get worse.
I watched a documentary about this case a few years ago. Absolutely heartbreaking. Natalie finally met someone who made her happy and that absolute evil bastard couldn't just let her go and be happy. My heart breaks for her children. RIP Natalie ❤️
She would have gone from one abusive relation to another.. she thouht it was ok to bear kids with someone like this.. not only jeopardize her own but her kids life.. got bak with this monster and wat not.. also please dont say you dont know how hard it is.. and dont attack by saying i am blaming the victim.. but i cant stand such spineless lowlives
@@ms-mn3qv that's quiet an assumption. We have no clue what she would've done in the future, and to assume what you assumed is a bit disrespectful. Plenty of women or men successfully get out of abusive relationships after years of being codependent. You really do sound like you're trying to blame the victim.
I love that you make a tragedy sound like a tragedy and not try to entertain with jokes/unwanted figures of speech... I absolutely love your dictation.
genuinely curious of which creators you think make jokes / figures of speech in their content because I haven't found anybody that does. and I watch alot of true crime. No hate, just really curious.
I'm certain there are domestic violence sufferers watching and reading here. First of all I want to say that I am so sorry that the person you thought would love and protect you, has become the person who is harming you. I know about domestic violence from growing up in that type of environment. The one thing I would hope the victims would start learning to do, is to plan, prepare and leave QUIETLY. DO NOT TELL YOUR ABUSER ANYTHING, JUST GO. Do NOT tell him/her (women abuse too) that you are leaving. Do not tell them you are in love with someone else. Do not tell them you are going to stay with so and so for a couple of days. Do not even tell the kids what you are planning because they may innocently share with the abuser. Keep photos of your injuries. Keep a police log of your calls. I wish you all the best for a happier and safer future. God bless neighbors.
In 2018 my ex stabbed me multiple times. She got arrested and I flew back home the next day before she got out. She got mad that I didn’t bail her out and I never responded. Best decision ever
Hello, BC FB maybe you could answer my curiosity as to why people stay in an abusive relationship. This man hurt Natalie already on their first date!! Yet, despite many more instances of terrible abuse and insults, she stays with him, or returns to him.
That is the best advice you could possibly give to someone in an abusive relationship. And there are many, many, organizations to help people in this situation, with all the different types of help you could possibly need. Thank you!❤ (Sorry and heads up, my comment ended up MUCH longer than I intended lol) My first serious relationship at the very naive age of 19, went from him being a kind, doting, loving man, to an abusive man, in about 3 months. it all started when he took a job driving tractor trailers up and down the mountains. The first few weeks were great, and then things drastically changed when he decided to start using blow to keep himself awake longer while driving. This was never mentioned to me, and was a bit of a shock when I found out. He picked fights more and more and more, until things escalated and one Sunday he beat the living shit out of me. Then called the police to report me, because I had the audacity to push him away from me when he first angrily came at me, and I could clearly tell it wasn't going to end well. Already bruised by the time cops arrived, one male one female because of it being a domestic call, he denied hitting me with anything but a pillow, to which the officer angrily asked, "Was it filled with bricks??? We were both arrested because he wanted to charge me for a hitting him first. The cops felt terrible, but had to take me in. I got in the back of the woman cops car, and the first thing she did was apologize for having to take me in as well, and then asked if I'd be going back. I told her I didn't know what was even happening with anything else yet, nevermind the status of my relationship. She openly spoke about how often she sees this and that 9/10 women go back to abusive spouses, and that approximately 6/10 women unfortunately end up dead as statistics. She then pleaded with me to see the danger and walk away before it got too late, and that she would even help. I took her words to heart and decided I wasn't even going to give him a second chance. I really loved him and the hardest thing to do was to walk away from the man I wanted to spend my life with. To this day I still speak with that officer. She was so proud of me, and it was just so kind of her. I can't even imagine how different my life would be if I had stayed in that toxic situation. I am alive and safe, because she cared, along with my family and friends, who helped me through it. If you got this far into what was originally going to be a quick reply, then I appreciate you for hanging in there. Thanks, and stay safe.❤
Ladies, being abused and scared to death by your partner is not love. He will not change. He enjoys hurting and scaring you and your children. Leave him as fast as you can and do not tell him you are leaving. GET OUT!
I was being abused by my partner and when I finally decided to leave for good, I packed all my stuff and left while he was at work. I never left a note or anything that would tell him where I was. I’ve moved on and I’m now dating someone new. I really hope my ex partner doesn’t try to force me to come back to him…
During my work seminars in listening to and helping abuse victims, we learned abuse victims on average take 7-8 times/attempts to leave their abusers. During that time either family/friends give up on them, or they don't make it out alive. Truly tragic and I hope this info helps someone. Hold on a little longer for them, don't give up.
I wish it wouldn't come to that. I wish women would leave at the 1st sign the person is mentally, physically, & emotionally abusive. Instead they ignore it & make a million Excuses for staying. I've walked away from friends like this. Helping her clean up after he destroyed the house in a rage & watching her cry thousands of time. He would come back soon as tax time came then find a reason to leave again. She kept taking him back & we just got tired & left her to it. I realized no matter what he did to her she would keep going back. I miss my friend but I couldn't keep being apart of the madness. She has since passed away. 😥
What he said/mouthed to Natalie's grieving Mum and family at the end of his trial, shows what a vile person he is. Rest in Peace Natalie. Natalie would be very proud of her brave, honest good children.❤
Why the hell did her mum ring Paul to collect the baby when it wouldn’t settle and Natalie wasnt home?? She KNEW he was abusive. She KNEW Natalie had struggled to get away from him. She KNEW Natalie had gone out and that Paul wouldn’t be happy about that. I doubt Natalie would’ve approved of her mum calling Paul without talking to her first to collect her baby. Besides, babies cry! She was a mother herself, why did she think Paul would be able to deal with the baby better than she could? And why didn’t she ring Natalie for advice on how to settle baby first? And why didn’t she ring her and get permission for her to give baby to Paul? I would be FUCKING LIVID with my mother if she just dumped my baby with my abusive ex just because she couldn’t be bothered to deal with a crying baby for ONE NIGHT. There’s something not right there….🤔🤔 Edit- also she even told the 999operator that Paul was the main reason that she was concerned for her daughters safety, and yet she RANG HIM to take the baby?? WTF?!
Oh my gosh exactly my thoughts!! This made me angry! I know for a fact it was the mothers fault Natalie is dead.. like you said the mother only had the kids for one night if she could not handle the baby’s cry maybe she should have gone to the hospital if the baby is crying that bad... Also I really don’t believe that Natalie didn’t tell her mom where she was going to be while her mom had her kids over night.. and agreed knowing what Paul has done to Natalie and the fact that her family tried to get her away from him why in the world would she call him.. I 100% believe her mother had a lot to do with her death..
Ok I'm glad you highlighted this bc I thought I heard it wrong. 😤 This would explain why Nathalie could endure so much abuse from Paul... She's been enduring it her whole life with a conniving mother.
The fact that he made her sleep on the floor naked and kicked her if she moved and she still wanted to marry him is why we need to raise our girls with much greater self esteem.
I married a man who was violent when I was 18, days after I married him I had a black eye, I was pregnant with our son and he used to beat me up then and after I had my son, the marriage lasted 11 months and I finally got out of it.. I had worse to come regarding abusive men... I think I always thought I deserved it although was never sure why..my heart goes out to Natalie and her children, maybe she tried to change so many times for this evil man and finally knew there was nothing else she could do to stop him abusing her... and found someone better who knew her worth and that murdering b didn't like it
I hate it when people treat other people like they are objects. TF is with the "If she/he is not MINE, she/he won't be with anyone". Disgusting little pieces of sh!t. My heart is with Natalie's family, they all deserved better.
I grew up in a household like this. Thankfully, when I was 14, my mum got away. My dad finally gave up after two years of stalking and now they're both happy. Oddly, my dad hasn't been violent since, according to his long term partner. Who knows. It could have so easily ended like this. My heart goes out to Kirsty and her siblings
Girl I've been there.. My mom didn't just sit there and take his abuse tho.. She fought back and then left his dirty ass on his bday. He stalked us too.. I have night Terrors from the stalking
I lived in an abusive childhood. I think I came aware of it at about four years old. I used to be terrified that my mum and I would be killed. I’m 55 and still have nightmares where my father is trying to kill us. I’ve been seeing a great therapist for a long time and this sort of thing and thdd we repercussions come up Almost every session
I love how you review cases that I’ve never heard of before. Thank you! Your work is incredible! Women, if you are dating a man and he turns violent within a few weeks or months of dating (or ever), you MUST leave! He will not change! Make an escape plan, talk to family, speak with domestic violence organizations…get out! Your life depends on it. You don’t want to have children with these men! Please!! 🥺
Bare someone's child. Plural. Single moms should worry about their kids and not dating. They already failed at a relationship with the first sire. No man wants to raise another man's offspring.
@@Oliver-Closeoff saying that Natalie failed at the first relationship, is implying it was her fault. The husband failed her and the children by being an abusive man. Then he murdered her in front of her son.🥺 This is very sad, I feel sad for her family especially her children.😔😢 This was not Natalie’s fault, not even a little bit.
@@Oliver-Closeoff You are sick putting the blame on the woman. Why is it it was the woman fault, who might I remind you got murdered? My parents divorced, but not after my dad dented my mother's skull, beat out her teeth, broke her ribs, spat in her face and choked and sexually assaulted her constantly and I saw it all happen. She never searched love after that because she is absolutely traumatized, but even if she found it, would she have been second hand goods if we're going by your logic? Would she not have deserved something nice, because she had me and my sibling? My dad can go ahead and date girls my age right now and be happy because no way any of his kids are talking to him, two of his girlfriends getting restraining orders on him. You know, kids are not just kids from the mom, it takes two people to make a baby, maybe you never learned that. I hope every woman you try to pursue could see your comment here and run for the hills, and god forbid, have kids with you.
As soon as i heard the way he beat her at the beginning i knew he killed her..A man like THAT you never tell you went to another mans house. That sealed her fate.. RIP Natelie
Thanks for the case. Have been on a binge watching all the cases you've covered and it's solidified my opinion that your are among the best UA-camrs who cover true crime cases Most others joke or lighten the mood somewhat which is not what these type of cases deserve Thank you for covering these cases and giving the victims a voice
To the people saying, "WHY DIDNT SHE JUST LEAVE!!" clearly doesn't understand that, Leaving is not an event, it's a process. Natalie was on that process and was preparing to leave but sadly, she never finished it.
I know that these things happen but I guess I will never be able to understand.I have always told the men in my life - You may hit me one time but you have to sleep some time and when you do-watch out!! I feel sorry for these women but I want to shake them. Love yourself too much to put up with S**t from any man.
The first 7 years of my life was like this.. I watched my mother fight back tho and she left and he stalked us for 3 years practically. It wasn't that my mom was one of the ones in a cycle it was because she literally had no support from her own mother and she had to wait til she had some money. It's easier said than done for those of us just on the outside. You never know until you're on that situation. It's something I WON'T put up with because I started out life in that
It isn't simple no doubt. I read that it takes 8 tries to leave an abusive partner. I feel so bad for Natalie and her children. Her son heard what was happening. He drew a picture of what he saw for the police. That poor baby has to live with that trauma. Paul is a despicable POS. He deserves to rot in prison
The abuse started a few weeks in according to the story. She should have left then, when no innocent children were involved and she hadn’t gotten to a state of reliance. It truly is that simple.
Can’t tell u how much I luv ur channel!!! The way u tell the story is amazing and so gentle and respectful. Ur channel is gonna grow so fast!!! Gonna share ur videos to family and friends to try and get u more subs!!! God bless and much luv from Louisiana!!!
I always find it hard to thumbs up posts like this... It is terrible that they even exist, disgusting. Thank you for sharing the story, I truly feel for that woman and her family! ♥️
One of my friends almost lost her life .. my partner and I went to court as witnesses and she never showed up. She was so brainwashed by this guy. It still pains me to think about all the times I tried to get her to stay with us and be safe. She got out eventually but only after getting her eye socket and jaw smashed in. I still feel so much hatred towards the man responsible. He never got prison time or fined or anything. Too many get away with it until they murder someone and slip up.
The people behind this channel are so thoughtful and kind. Not only do you create great content, but you also look out for the subjects of your content by putting tip information in your videos and you look out for your viewers by putting resources in the description box. You are my favourite channel for true crime stories and I think you’re the best out there. Keep up the good work! PS, as a fellow Brit, it’s great to see some true crime from Britain, these stories are not nearly covered as much as American crime. Thank you for putting the spotlight on these victims stories and the trusts and foundations that support others.
This was a really sad story but you did it very well and I appreciate all the hard work that went into making this. I know it can't be easy having to research and gather information on such crimes but thank you for speaking for the victims period And I really enjoy your channel keep up the good work.
Oh, geez, I am so very sorry to hear that!!! Must have been so tragic for you and your family. Hope you guys just have been remembering all the good times you were able to share together. She is watching over you now in a better place.
Everything about your channel is respectfully and beautifully done. The way the case is gone over in such a respectful way and the links to help further victims. My friend has just been a victim of domestic violence resulting in her murder. It’s the worst to hear about what’s going on by news channels and such due to it’s still a open investigation and a new case. A lot of her case has been blunt and harsh to hear and read. The way you do things is very much appreciated!
This is a great true crime channel. I’ve seen all your videos and they are progressively getting better and better. Thank you and I look forward to more videos in the future!
Ya know what else is truly criminal? That this A++ channel doesn’t have more subs than it does, this is top shelf quality stuff. I haven’t watched an episode yet that I haven’t liked. Sending love and positive vibes from Tennessee ❤️❤️❤️
(Edit: Thank you so much for this episode!!) We need to teach about emotions and healthy reciprocating relationships and healthy social behavior in schools early on for prevention of domestic abuse and violence. We need to teach about and warn about those individuals who's emotions are ill and their practices in relationships (friends, workplace, family, extended family, neighbors, whoever in any relation), about toxic and manipulative behavior about coercive control, about healthy boundaries, about equality and about a human's right to be emotionally unharmed just as well as physically unharmed by other humans!
I came across your channel yesterday and I’ve been watching it nonstop since. I’ve been watching all different true crime platforms and yours is absolutely one of the best. Keep up the great work, professionalism and very detailed investigation with each case. I’m so glad I found this channel. Thank you!
Exactly let's raise our standards if you wouldnt accept a random stranger doing the same to you, don't justify mistreatment just because the person apologizes or says they love you
Natalie's mother should never have phoned Paul to fetch the baby as this was the nail in Natalie's coffin. Natalie's mother was aware that Paul had a history of abusing Natalie. There is enough evidence to convict this abuser without a body.
I was thinking the exact same thing. By calling him she basically let him know she was out with someone else. Why even call him to help with the baby knowing her daughter was just trying to have a night out
@@Ffeoli1039 yeah the mind boggles at the idiotic careless decisions people make especially regarding the safety of their children. She signed her own daughter's death warrent knowing full well what he was capable off. Wonder how she'll explain that to her grandchildren when they get older 😔😠
I follow so many people who cover true crime, the other day yours was recommended and I of course tuned in. I have to say the way you cover these stories far succeeds all of my current favorites that I follow! You get straight to the point and include so much detail! Can’t wait to catch up on all the videos you have already made!
He loved to see her miserable and couldn't accept the fact that she had finally found happiness. What a narcissistic low life. I just subbed to this channel, love that there is no loud background music and your narration is relaxing and clearly heard.
I’ve read about this tragic story before. Your telling of this case brought the true horror of living with an abusive, control freak home. I know, because I’ve been there. Fortunately I survived.
@@sidewalks22 - No! I left him 20 years ago, but I’ve never been able to trust another man since. Sadly my children (grown up now) still have to cope with his lies and manipulative behaviour 😪
@@annegriffith6905 im so glad you did; those relationships never end up well, sadly sometimes end up in crime. Cant imagine all the suffering you mustve gone through
That poor little boy seeing that. He was so brave to tell them what he saw. How terrible that he had to watch that. He doesn’t even understand it but had to go back to bed being scared. 😢 I hope he has the best help and support throughout his life. Hope he knows his mom loved him and would never leave him. I’m sure he loves his dad too. That’s what us really terrible here.
Thank you very much. Very well done :)! I don’t think she told him that she was seeing someone else that night. I believe he took her phone and saw the messages between her and the new man. Especially if her phone went off when Simon was texting her that night. I say this because that’s what my ex would do if he thought I could have been with someone else. I think she would have been way too afraid to tell him that.
The fact that he said “I loved every minute of it” is absolutely disgusting!! That woman did not have to go through that just because he did not want to see her happy
@@SeasonHeise-dj9dxthat’s very victim-blamey. Abusers make you question your reality. They will do and say anything to “make up” for the abuse and are amazing manipulators. She probably believed him when he said it would never happen again. A woman is dead, don’t make out like it’s her fault because she didn’t leave.
Truly Criminal and That Chapter are my two favorite true crime channels. Very very different approaches to the videos for sure, but definitely two of the best channels I know of.
This is my Aunty Natalie. Thankyou for covering the case in such a gentle way. ❤️
so sorry for your loss 💔
Sorry that you had to put up with that horrid monster.
How are her children doing now Zoe?
So sorry for your loss.
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Let's all just take a minute to give props to the son, who was a bigger man than his Dad will ever be.
Poor little fella. It's so sad for him. But he was brave and I hope his future is bright.
How can you know that?
@Svyatoslav Fastovetsky Is that a serious question?
Because his father is not a man. He is a selfish coward that took it upon himself to decide when that boys mothers' life would cease for all eternity. And he did so because he couldn't handle the fact that he was losing his family due to consequences of his own actions. Because she refused to be his punching bag.
The boy speaking about what he saw happen to his mom, when he must have been scared out of his mind was braver than his cowardly abusive fathers actions by miles and miles.
@@Kisha_can yes, but give it time. Perhaps the son will grow up to kill his partner as well.....
@Human Twotwentyone I don't even know what to think about such a stupid comment.
Props to the Little boy , he is so smart explaining everything, even drawing the crime scene ❤️
RIP Natalie ❤️
I consume A LOT of true crime UA-cam (and podcasts) and you are one of the best. You keep it serious and don’t joke, but your style, and voice, don’t make it overly depressing. You’ll have 200k+ subscribers in a matter of months, you deserve them.
Totally agree!! Very interesting the way she presents her cases, top-notch delivery, and such a soothing voice as well. She deserves -- and will get -- tons more subscribers!
I agree wholeheartedly
I agree!!!
So agree!
Definitely agree with you... Could you please share the other UA-cam channel that are on your fav list of crime stories
Poor baby curled up on the chair…I hope he is doing well in life
My heart was breaking for that child
Yes I sincerely hope he's doing ok He looked traumatized, poor heart.
I don't think so because now he has all this trauma..but I hope he can heal
Couldn’t agree more, sad they separated the kids too.
@@Maddy-jx9ve 😥😥😥
"You were gentle, kind and caring and that meant the world to me" honestly scorched my heart. That's what's normal, that's how it should be, and to her it was something so extraordinary 😔 She deserved that happiness..
So she slept with him on the first date? smh
@@tankthearc9875 this is kind of a weird time to make a fuss about that, don’t you think? 🤨
@@tankthearc9875 what does that have to do with you? Does it impact on your life? Why does it bother you?
Don’t bother interacting with the troll. They have previously commented on other videos saying “I don’t feel bad for her cause she was kind fat tbh”.
@@tankthearc9875 Sorry nobody wants to have sex with you, babe. Because why else, if you’re not just bitter, would you assume there is anything wrong with having sex on the first date? Sex isn’t some leverage to keep for later; it’s fun and pleasurable for consenting adults. Sex does not sully a woman and ruin her worth. Maybe if you weren’t such a misogynist you might have had a partner?
Women, plan quietly and run! Never tell your abuser ANYTHING.
absolutely, I did!
@@lizjones7220 , PROUD of you! Life will get better and better!
That's the only way I got out alive - good advice
@@lizjones7220 👍💕🕊
Liz Jones me tooo!! Im proud of u and me!
I remember this case. Poor little boy saw things no child should ever see
Ladies ... the first time a man puts you down, get out ... this is the first sign of an abuser. Never think that it is a 'one off' remark. It's just the beginning of what's to come. MAXIMUM RESPECT comes from a REAL MAN.
Well said. I think one of the best agreements to have in a relationship is to agree to "never fight dirty." Yell and swear if that's how you fight, but don't call each other anything or demean each other. (Of course, it's better to be calm than fight at all. Just making a rough comparison to the worst alternative.) That's the red flag right away. Arguments are normal and so is controlled anger. Abuse is abuse, and one time is one too many.
this is 100% true. same for friends - no one should ever put you down or be amused at you being sad/distressed/upset, period. if a friend or partner ever puts you down or tries to make you feel less than, you need to start packing because they are testing to see what you will put up with. there are no exceptions.
excellent advice! I wish I had followed that but at least my Son nd I made it out alive, unlike this tragic lady. Heartbreaking for her kids and other loved ones. I hope they all find some peace and healing together.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT END OF, GOD BLESS YOU I JUST HOPE PEOPLE READ AND SPREAD MESSAGE ON, IT NEVER HAPPEN IF MY DAUGHTER .
It baffles me! It's the same pattern. With just a simple apology women forgive their abusers the first few times. Then they get to a point where they are stuck in a nightmare! Worse still in most cases they do not seek help from anyone until in some cases sadly it's too late! I cannot get my head around that for the life of me!!!!
PEOPLE:Stop telling your abusers you're leaving them...LEAVE and LIVE!!!!!
Totally 👍👍👍👍
YES !!!!! I heard say that the most dangerous time for a domestic abuse victim is when they are leaving the relationship...and please - you can see the red flags early on in the relationship - they are there for a reason...do not try to tell yourself it will get better !! It will NOT...and once you leave do not look back. Do not let roses, sweet talk, and promises lure you back. Please.
🙄Easier said than done.
Preferably before you bear him 2 kids which will, very predictably, ensure that you have to deal with him for the next 16 years when she could have left him for years beforehand. She has to shoulder some responsibility for making such mindnumbinglyu stupid life decisions when the writing was clearly on the wall with 10ft high illuminous paint.
@@neiljohnson8121 I totally agree. These women think that fatherhood will change him . I am not victim blaming , it is ALL the fault of the abusive coward . But as a woman why would you bring innocent lives into a world of abuse. That is not fair . If you accept the abuse as an adult woman it’s up to you but you don’t have the right to bring innocent children to that life imo . These so called men bully and abuse anyone vulnerable this very much includes children. These abused women who say he didn’t abuse the children aren’t telling the truth imo. They want to pretend that he was a good father and as a mother she hadn’t failed her children imo .
Said he enjoyed every minute of killing her? 20 years is not long enough, cold blooded, left 3 children motherless, lied under oath. I wouldn't doubt he'd hurt someone when he gets out. His anger will just fester in prison.....
He looks cruel. It's in the lines in his face and especially his dead eyes.
I fear for the child who told innocently to the police about the rug.
judges dont really care, if they could some of these vile judges would love to just give the minimum sentences
How is that not also not an extra charge on top of his sentence?
Just because he can apply for parole in 20 years doesn't mean he will get it.
As a child who grew up in an abusive home, I feel deeply for what happened to Natalie and her children. Domestic abusers do not change ..... they only get worse.
Never tell your abuser your leaving, ladies! And *NEVER EVER EVER* go back into a car or meet him afterwards
Controlling and gaslight is how they get you.
And don't tell them you have a new partner
And NEVER believe them when they say they’ll change! Never engage in conversation….just get away.
That poor kid. Witnessing the immediate aftermath of his mother’s murder. I pray for him and his siblings.
I watched a documentary about this case a few years ago. Absolutely heartbreaking. Natalie finally met someone who made her happy and that absolute evil bastard couldn't just let her go and be happy. My heart breaks for her children. RIP Natalie ❤️
She should've done that to begin with. The effects of being a single mother smh.
She would have gone from one abusive relation to another.. she thouht it was ok to bear kids with someone like this.. not only jeopardize her own but her kids life.. got bak with this monster and wat not.. also please dont say you dont know how hard it is.. and dont attack by saying i am blaming the victim.. but i cant stand such spineless lowlives
@@ms-mn3qv that's quiet an assumption. We have no clue what she would've done in the future, and to assume what you assumed is a bit disrespectful. Plenty of women or men successfully get out of abusive relationships after years of being codependent. You really do sound like you're trying to blame the victim.
@@Ffeoli1039 maybe u are right but the thing is that if a woman is ok with endangering the life of her kids then my respect for her is gone
@@ms-mn3qv I guess there isn't anything wrong with that logic.
I love that you make a tragedy sound like a tragedy and not try to entertain with jokes/unwanted figures of speech... I absolutely love your dictation.
Same! I totally agree.
Oh that's the word I didn't know I needed to describe how I like her narration.
genuinely curious of which creators you think make jokes / figures of speech in their content because I haven't found anybody that does. and I watch alot of true crime. No hate, just really curious.
@@briannnaaX Probably ThatChapter. Mike has a sense of humor.
@@briannnaaX Mr Ballen , he waffles a bit...ego
What a smart little boy, how heartbreaking.
I'm certain there are domestic violence sufferers watching and reading here.
First of all I want to say that I am so sorry that the person you thought would love and protect you, has become the person who is harming you.
I know about domestic violence from growing up in that type of environment.
The one thing I would hope the victims would start learning to do, is to plan, prepare and leave QUIETLY. DO NOT TELL YOUR ABUSER ANYTHING, JUST GO.
Do NOT tell him/her (women abuse too) that you are leaving.
Do not tell them you are in love with someone else.
Do not tell them you are going to stay with so and so for a couple of days.
Do not even tell the kids what you are planning because they may innocently share with the abuser.
Keep photos of your injuries.
Keep a police log of your calls.
I wish you all the best for a happier and safer future. God bless neighbors.
In 2018 my ex stabbed me multiple times. She got arrested and I flew back home the next day before she got out. She got mad that I didn’t bail her out and I never responded. Best decision ever
Hello, BC FB maybe you could answer my curiosity as to why people stay in an abusive relationship. This man hurt Natalie already on their first date!! Yet, despite many more instances of terrible abuse and insults, she stays with him, or returns to him.
Good to share that advice. I'm sorry you learned those things from bitter experience. Very best wishes.
@@Findpype holy shit! Sorry you had to go through that :( glad you survived and gtfo of there.
That is the best advice you could possibly give to someone in an abusive relationship. And there are many, many, organizations to help people in this situation, with all the different types of help you could possibly need.
Thank you!❤
(Sorry and heads up, my comment ended up MUCH longer than I intended lol)
My first serious relationship at the very naive age of 19, went from him being a kind, doting, loving man, to an abusive man, in about 3 months. it all started when he took a job driving tractor trailers up and down the mountains. The first few weeks were great, and then things drastically changed when he decided to start using blow to keep himself awake longer while driving.
This was never mentioned to me, and was a bit of a shock when I found out.
He picked fights more and more and more, until things escalated and one Sunday he beat the living shit out of me. Then called the police to report me, because I had the audacity to push him away from me when he first angrily came at me, and I could clearly tell it wasn't going to end well.
Already bruised by the time cops arrived, one male one female because of it being a domestic call, he denied hitting me with anything but a pillow, to which the officer angrily asked, "Was it filled with bricks???
We were both arrested because he wanted to charge me for a hitting him first. The cops felt terrible, but had to take me in.
I got in the back of the woman cops car, and the first thing she did was apologize for having to take me in as well, and then asked if I'd be going back.
I told her I didn't know what was even happening with anything else yet, nevermind the status of my relationship.
She openly spoke about how often she sees this and that 9/10 women go back to abusive spouses, and that approximately 6/10 women unfortunately end up dead as statistics. She then pleaded
with me to see the danger and walk away before it got too late, and that she would even help.
I took her words to heart and decided I wasn't even going to give him a second chance. I really loved him and the hardest thing to do was to walk away from the man I wanted to spend my life with.
To this day I still speak with that officer. She was so proud of me, and it was just so kind of her.
I can't even imagine how different my life would be if I had stayed in that toxic situation.
I am alive and safe, because she cared, along with my family and friends, who helped me through it.
If you got this far into what was originally going to be a quick reply, then I appreciate you for hanging in there. Thanks, and stay safe.❤
Ladies, being abused and scared to death by your partner is not love. He will not change. He enjoys hurting and scaring you and your children. Leave him as fast as you can and do not tell him you are leaving. GET OUT!
I was being abused by my partner and when I finally decided to leave for good, I packed all my stuff and left while he was at work. I never left a note or anything that would tell him where I was. I’ve moved on and I’m now dating someone new. I really hope my ex partner doesn’t try to force me to come back to him…
PS breeding with the abuser will NOT HELP the situation. Just don’t do it.
Wonder if someone like literally has no where at all to go
@@jennyrichardson5213 I think there's a lot of people who have nowhere to go. It must be a horrible feeling to be so trapped.
They love control and power = abusers
I like this channel. Straight to the point with evidence. No personal opinion included.
During my work seminars in listening to and helping abuse victims, we learned abuse victims on average take 7-8 times/attempts to leave their abusers.
During that time either family/friends give up on them, or they don't make it out alive. Truly tragic and I hope this info helps someone. Hold on a little longer for them, don't give up.
They need a reiki healer!
www.bythewayhealth.com/10-amazing-health-benefits-reiki/
I wish it wouldn't come to that. I wish women would leave at the 1st sign the person is mentally, physically, & emotionally abusive. Instead they ignore it & make a million Excuses for staying. I've walked away from friends like this. Helping her clean up after he destroyed the house in a rage & watching her cry thousands of time. He would come back soon as tax time came then find a reason to leave again. She kept taking him back & we just got tired & left her to it. I realized no matter what he did to her she would keep going back. I miss my friend but I couldn't keep being apart of the madness. She has since passed away. 😥
What he said/mouthed to Natalie's grieving Mum and family at the end of his trial, shows what a vile person he is.
Rest in Peace Natalie. Natalie would be very proud of her brave, honest good children.❤
The drawings of the boy - so heartbreaking!
I hope another criminal will make him "love every minute" of his stay in jail.
Yes quite right, see how he likes it if another man teaches him a lesson or two. He only dares hit women the coward
Exactly.
100%
Every hour on the hour
Doubt it.
She was so happy on that cctv. Absolutely heartbreaking.
she was probably really happy with Paul too in the early stage of their relationship.
@@francisgerman5672 maybe? but it’s kind of an irrelevant point
100% happy on the cctv on her date
@@francisgerman5672 what's your point?
Why the hell did her mum ring Paul to collect the baby when it wouldn’t settle and Natalie wasnt home??
She KNEW he was abusive.
She KNEW Natalie had struggled to get away from him.
She KNEW Natalie had gone out and that Paul wouldn’t be happy about that.
I doubt Natalie would’ve approved of her mum calling Paul without talking to her first to collect her baby.
Besides, babies cry! She was a mother herself, why did she think Paul would be able to deal with the baby better than she could? And why didn’t she ring Natalie for advice on how to settle baby first? And why didn’t she ring her and get permission for her to give baby to Paul?
I would be FUCKING LIVID with my mother if she just dumped my baby with my abusive ex just because she couldn’t be bothered to deal with a crying baby for ONE NIGHT.
There’s something not right there….🤔🤔
Edit- also she even told the 999operator that Paul was the main reason that she was concerned for her daughters safety, and yet she RANG HIM to take the baby??
WTF?!
Exactly what I was thinking. very dumb action from her mum
Some mothers are jealous of their own daughters and do this kind of shit
Exactly
Oh my gosh exactly my thoughts!! This made me angry! I know for a fact it was the mothers fault Natalie is dead.. like you said the mother only had the kids for one night if she could not handle the baby’s cry maybe she should have gone to the hospital if the baby is crying that bad... Also I really don’t believe that Natalie didn’t tell her mom where she was going to be while her mom had her kids over night.. and agreed knowing what Paul has done to Natalie and the fact that her family tried to get her away from him why in the world would she call him.. I 100% believe her mother had a lot to do with her death..
Ok I'm glad you highlighted this bc I thought I heard it wrong. 😤 This would explain why Nathalie could endure so much abuse from Paul... She's been enduring it her whole life with a conniving mother.
The fact that he made her sleep on the floor naked and kicked her if she moved and she still wanted to marry him is why we need to raise our girls with much greater self esteem.
I married a man who was violent when I was 18, days after I married him I had a black eye, I was pregnant with our son and he used to beat me up then and after I had my son, the marriage lasted 11 months and I finally got out of it.. I had worse to come regarding abusive men... I think I always thought I deserved it although was never sure why..my heart goes out to Natalie and her children, maybe she tried to change so many times for this evil man and finally knew there was nothing else she could do to stop him abusing her... and found someone better who knew her worth and that murdering b didn't like it
No, this is why we need to raise men with much greater respect towards women & people in general. Tf.
@@bexx08There will always be evil in the world. We're never going to get rid of murderers completely. Let's not make ourselves easy targets.
It’s so sad to watch the cctv of her and Simon having a nice time; she looked so happy and carefree. I hope she RIP ♥️♥️
Such a sad, yet all too predictable story. Her children are working wonders though in prevention of violent domestic abuse in Natalie's memory.
I hate it when people treat other people like they are objects. TF is with the "If she/he is not MINE, she/he won't be with anyone". Disgusting little pieces of sh!t. My heart is with Natalie's family, they all deserved better.
Totally with ya.. Alright if gal dont wanna be with me.. Alright no problem.. Nobody is anybody's property..
They are entitled is what it is
I understand u so well maam
I grew up in a household like this. Thankfully, when I was 14, my mum got away. My dad finally gave up after two years of stalking and now they're both happy. Oddly, my dad hasn't been violent since, according to his long term partner. Who knows.
It could have so easily ended like this.
My heart goes out to Kirsty and her siblings
Girl I've been there.. My mom didn't just sit there and take his abuse tho.. She fought back and then left his dirty ass on his bday. He stalked us too.. I have night Terrors from the stalking
I lived in an abusive childhood. I think I came aware of it at about four years old. I used to be terrified that my mum and I would be killed. I’m 55 and still have nightmares where my father is trying to kill us. I’ve been seeing a great therapist for a long time and this sort of thing and thdd we repercussions come up
Almost every session
Oh
That’s so awful 😞
“that’s exactly what we’re saying”
Iconic
You could tell that the detectives were getting fed up with Paul’s BS.
🤣 Paul.. Nice try pal
Low self-esteem kills --- in more ways than one.
I love how you review cases that I’ve never heard of before. Thank you! Your work is incredible! Women, if you are dating a man and he turns violent within a few weeks or months of dating (or ever), you MUST leave! He will not change! Make an escape plan, talk to family, speak with domestic violence organizations…get out! Your life depends on it. You don’t want to have children with these men! Please!! 🥺
If a person raises a hand to you JUST ONCE, break it off FOR GOOD!!
It will never get better!!
He loved every minute... Disgusting. It is mind blowing how you can bare someones child.. And they kill you. I hate that.
I understand
Ur beautiful 🙂
Bare someone's child. Plural. Single moms should worry about their kids and not dating. They already failed at a relationship with the first sire. No man wants to raise another man's offspring.
@@Oliver-Closeoff saying that Natalie failed at the first relationship, is implying it was her fault. The husband failed her and the children by being an abusive man. Then he murdered her in front of her son.🥺 This is very sad, I feel sad for her family especially her children.😔😢 This was not Natalie’s fault, not even a little bit.
@@Oliver-Closeoff You are sick putting the blame on the woman. Why is it it was the woman fault, who might I remind you got murdered? My parents divorced, but not after my dad dented my mother's skull, beat out her teeth, broke her ribs, spat in her face and choked and sexually assaulted her constantly and I saw it all happen. She never searched love after that because she is absolutely traumatized, but even if she found it, would she have been second hand goods if we're going by your logic? Would she not have deserved something nice, because she had me and my sibling? My dad can go ahead and date girls my age right now and be happy because no way any of his kids are talking to him, two of his girlfriends getting restraining orders on him. You know, kids are not just kids from the mom, it takes two people to make a baby, maybe you never learned that. I hope every woman you try to pursue could see your comment here and run for the hills, and god forbid, have kids with you.
As soon as i heard the way he beat her at the beginning i knew he killed her..A man like THAT you never tell you went to another mans house. That sealed her fate.. RIP Natelie
It breaks my heart she left this world right when she had met a possible Soul mate to show her real Love. Rip Natalie ❣️🙏🏻
They went on one date…..soul mates?
Thanks for the case. Have been on a binge watching all the cases you've covered and it's solidified my opinion that your are among the best UA-camrs who cover true crime cases
Most others joke or lighten the mood somewhat which is not what these type of cases deserve
Thank you for covering these cases and giving the victims a voice
To the people saying, "WHY DIDNT SHE JUST LEAVE!!" clearly doesn't understand that, Leaving is not an event, it's a process. Natalie was on that process and was preparing to leave but sadly, she never finished it.
I know that these things happen but I guess I will never be able to understand.I have always told the men in my life - You may hit me one time but you have to sleep some time and when you do-watch out!! I feel sorry for these women but I want to shake them. Love yourself too much to put up with S**t from any man.
Lmao tell it girl
The first 7 years of my life was like this.. I watched my mother fight back tho and she left and he stalked us for 3 years practically. It wasn't that my mom was one of the ones in a cycle it was because she literally had no support from her own mother and she had to wait til she had some money. It's easier said than done for those of us just on the outside. You never know until you're on that situation. It's something I WON'T put up with because I started out life in that
It isn't simple no doubt. I read that it takes 8 tries to leave an abusive partner. I feel so bad for Natalie and her children. Her son heard what was happening. He drew a picture of what he saw for the police. That poor baby has to live with that trauma. Paul is a despicable POS. He deserves to rot in prison
The abuse started a few weeks in according to the story. She should have left then, when no innocent children were involved and she hadn’t gotten to a state of reliance. It truly is that simple.
Can’t tell u how much I luv ur channel!!! The way u tell the story is amazing and so gentle and respectful. Ur channel is gonna grow so fast!!! Gonna share ur videos to family and friends to try and get u more subs!!! God bless and much luv from Louisiana!!!
I always find it hard to thumbs up posts like this... It is terrible that they even exist, disgusting.
Thank you for sharing the story, I truly feel for that woman and her family! ♥️
One of my friends almost lost her life .. my partner and I went to court as witnesses and she never showed up. She was so brainwashed by this guy. It still pains me to think about all the times I tried to get her to stay with us and be safe. She got out eventually but only after getting her eye socket and jaw smashed in. I still feel so much hatred towards the man responsible. He never got prison time or fined or anything. Too many get away with it until they murder someone and slip up.
The people behind this channel are so thoughtful and kind. Not only do you create great content, but you also look out for the subjects of your content by putting tip information in your videos and you look out for your viewers by putting resources in the description box. You are my favourite channel for true crime stories and I think you’re the best out there. Keep up the good work!
PS, as a fellow Brit, it’s great to see some true crime from Britain, these stories are not nearly covered as much as American crime. Thank you for putting the spotlight on these victims stories and the trusts and foundations that support others.
This was a really sad story but you did it very well and I appreciate all the hard work that went into making this. I know it can't be easy having to research and gather information on such crimes but thank you for speaking for the victims period And I really enjoy your channel keep up the good work.
Sad. My sister also died from domestic violence 9 years ago.
Oh, geez, I am so very sorry to hear that!!! Must have been so tragic for you and your family. Hope you guys just have been remembering all the good times you were able to share together. She is watching over you now in a better place.
Oh my god I’m so so sorry for you and your family 😞😞😞
Love this channel...its better than national TV programmes
Everything about your channel is respectfully and beautifully done. The way the case is gone over in such a respectful way and the links to help further victims. My friend has just been a victim of domestic violence resulting in her murder. It’s the worst to hear about what’s going on by news channels and such due to it’s still a open investigation and a new case. A lot of her case has been blunt and harsh to hear and read. The way you do things is very much appreciated!
Your voice is so soothing. You are both so talented covering such awful crimes but presenting it in such a respectful way.
Poor Natalie
I hope she would be very proud of her children.. Especially her elder daughter.. So sad she never got to see them growing up..
This is so sad. Thank you for sharing her story. Natalie was a beautiful person and clearly a loving mother. Tragic.
Clearly a loving mother? Maybe she should have been the so called loving mother instead of trying to find a 3rd baby daddy. Just sayin.
Classic case of "if I can't have you, no one will". Natalie was finally free and happy and Paul could not handle it. Coward.
This made me cry! It's super hard to leave an abusive partner.. I pray no girl ever go thru this 💔
I would never understand why people hold on to their abusive partners. It’s so sad.
Best true crime channel on UA-cam.
Such an amazing channel and I so appreciate all the hard work you put into your videos!!!
Best youtube chanel in crime documentaries!! Keep up the good work!
This is a great true crime channel. I’ve seen all your videos and they are progressively getting better and better. Thank you and I look forward to more videos in the future!
Really well done piece, thank u for shining light on the issue. Heartbreaking.
Ya know what else is truly criminal? That this A++ channel doesn’t have more subs than it does, this is top shelf quality stuff. I haven’t watched an episode yet that I haven’t liked. Sending love and positive vibes from Tennessee ❤️❤️❤️
One of my new, favorite true crime UA-camrs! Nice voice, videos aren't too long, lots of pics included abd don't make jokes about serious cases.
He could not stand her being happy .. just look at her smiling at her new person. She was radiating happiness .. this truly breaks my heart ..
And this mouthing the words " I loved every minute" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To her family ???
Best crime channel of all time. And first
Her amazing kids honor the memory of their beloved mom. 🙏😌💞
(Edit: Thank you so much for this episode!!) We need to teach about emotions and healthy reciprocating relationships and healthy social behavior in schools early on for prevention of domestic abuse and violence. We need to teach about and warn about those individuals who's emotions are ill and their practices in relationships (friends, workplace, family, extended family, neighbors, whoever in any relation), about toxic and manipulative behavior about coercive control, about healthy boundaries, about equality and about a human's right to be emotionally unharmed just as well as physically unharmed by other humans!
So close to home. So very sad her poor children sisters and family r.i.p Natalie ❤
I came across your channel yesterday and I’ve been watching it nonstop since. I’ve been watching all different true crime platforms and yours is absolutely one of the best. Keep up the great work, professionalism and very detailed investigation with each case. I’m so glad I found this channel. Thank you!
The minute I'm made to sleep on the floor I'd be out of there horrid horrid man may you never rest in peace!
Or spat at her.
Please,before you get mad at me - I am not victim blaming. Why would she stay with that piece of garbage?
Exactly let's raise our standards if you wouldnt accept a random stranger doing the same to you, don't justify mistreatment just because the person apologizes or says they love you
Or 3 times cancelled wedding...
Natalie's mother should never have phoned Paul to fetch the baby as this was the nail in Natalie's coffin. Natalie's mother was aware that Paul had a history of abusing Natalie. There is enough evidence to convict this abuser without a body.
Yeah I agree the mum screwed up big time phoning that wack job about the children.
Yep. the mother knew what kind of pos he was but went ahead and phoned him any way while Natalie was out on a date. Really dumb.
I was thinking the exact same thing. By calling him she basically let him know she was out with someone else. Why even call him to help with the baby knowing her daughter was just trying to have a night out
I wonder if she realized this. Must have ate at her everyday.
@@Ffeoli1039 yeah the mind boggles at the idiotic careless decisions people make especially regarding the safety of their children. She signed her own daughter's death warrent knowing full well what he was capable off. Wonder how she'll explain that to her grandchildren when they get older 😔😠
I am ADDICTED to this channel!!!
I really like your style of these crime documentaries.
So, never give a toxic relationship, nor a narcissistic person a second chance. save your time..sometimes life..RIP Natalie.
I'm glad to her about your auntie. Zoe I wish you and your family peace
Kirstie go and be whatever you want to be and may the wind be behind you
Please keep posting about cases that haven't been done 100s over you are doing a great job
This is my new fave TC channel! Thanx for the brilliant case analysis’ 😘🇦🇺
I follow so many people who cover true crime, the other day yours was recommended and I of course tuned in. I have to say the way you cover these stories far succeeds all of my current favorites that I follow! You get straight to the point and include so much detail! Can’t wait to catch up on all the videos you have already made!
He loved to see her miserable and couldn't accept the fact that she had finally found happiness. What a narcissistic low life. I just subbed to this channel, love that there is no loud background music and your narration is relaxing and clearly heard.
I’ve read about this tragic story before. Your telling of this case brought the true horror of living with an abusive, control freak home. I know, because I’ve been there. Fortunately I survived.
Do you still live with him
@@sidewalks22 - No! I left him 20 years ago, but I’ve never been able to trust another man since. Sadly my children (grown up now) still have to cope with his lies and manipulative behaviour 😪
@@annegriffith6905 im so glad you did; those relationships never end up well, sadly sometimes end up in crime. Cant imagine all the suffering you mustve gone through
Such a sad subject, but you covered it beautifully. Thank you!
The abuse that Natalie suffered brought tears to my eyes my heart goes out to her children and family so heartbreaking
That poor little boy seeing that. He was so brave to tell them what he saw. How terrible that he had to watch that. He doesn’t even understand it but had to go back to bed being scared. 😢 I hope he has the best help and support throughout his life. Hope he knows his mom loved him and would never leave him. I’m sure he loves his dad too. That’s what us really terrible here.
That 6 year old boy is a hero. So intelligent and smart enough to tell them exactly what he saw and brave too ❤️
Thank you very much. Very well done :)!
I don’t think she told him that she was seeing someone else that night. I believe he took her phone and saw the messages between her and the new man. Especially if her phone went off when Simon was texting her that night. I say this because that’s what my ex would do if he thought I could have been with someone else. I think she would have been way too afraid to tell him that.
Even crimes I’ve seen before, done by others , I watch them on your channel, so professional
The fact that he said “I loved every minute of it” is absolutely disgusting!! That woman did not have to go through that just because he did not want to see her happy
He hurt her on their first date. I would love to know why someone stays with a person who abuses them.
I agree. Has to be a screw lose!
@@SeasonHeise-dj9dxthat’s very victim-blamey. Abusers make you question your reality. They will do and say anything to “make up” for the abuse and are amazing manipulators. She probably believed him when he said it would never happen again. A woman is dead, don’t make out like it’s her fault because she didn’t leave.
@@abbih220 She's not blaming the victim. She is saying that if abuse occurs on a 1st date, you can easily stop the relationship.
Trust me, you wouldn’t wanna be humbled and really understand why someone stays.
Thanks for bringing awareness to these cases, your channel is amazing!
I love your videos because they are so concise, no repetition, no long dragged out footage. Best crime video channel, thanks for uploading these!
Its so hard to leave and is the most dangerous part of being in an abusive relationship.. I'm so sorry she didn't get a chance to be happy with Simon
super sad....she be happy to know her daughter doing the right thing, beautiful good kid.
Perfect narration.
I love your voice you can tell a story. Even in bad times.
Love your style. Instantly subscribed! Terribly sad story (poor woman).
Best true crime on UA-cam
I've recent found your chanel and you are a great true crime story teller, your videos are well put together
Very sad. Love your channel you tell the cases with upmost respect.
Another great video guys, her poor children, and her poor family :(
Truly Criminal and That Chapter are my two favorite true crime channels. Very very different approaches to the videos for sure, but definitely two of the best channels I know of.
That chapter is terrible