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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- You’re only required to seek management approval for vacation requests in advance.
Forms submitted for leaves of absence for PN, SL, or CPN are just documentation provided management informing them of your leave and do not require management approval.
I submitted a form for two weeks off because I was getting married and going on my honeymoon. I gave the boss six months notice. Boss told me, “I’ll take a look and let you know if it’s approved.” I told her, “No, I wasn’t asking for approval. I’m merely letting you know as a courtesy. I will not be in the office for two weeks.” Some companies really think they control your whole life.
That’s ridiculous. If it was maybe just a few weeks before I could understand, but that’s half a goddamn year.
Exactly what I started doing about a year into my first job. Life was more enjoyable after that.
THIS!!!!
It’s nice to remind them what their title as “boss” actually entails instead of the power trip they think it is.
That's why one of my bosses one time called and said:
"We're really short staffed today"
I said:
"Ah man, that's rough"
She said:
"Yeeeeaaaaahhh, soooo, just letting you know"
I said:
"My condolences"
Then hung up
It should be a crime to offer PTO but never approve the vacation days.
"We're short staffed", that's YOUR problem
They don't "need" to approve it, you just have to give them advanced notice. If they retaliate, that's a good lawsuit here in the US.
It is a crime; that crime is *fraud.*
Say what you will about walmart but when i was their they treated my PTO as a court order.
@theelephantandtherider9536 yep, because it very nearly literally was.
Wally World is one of the few places that does follow labor laws religiously; not because they want to, but because they're so smegging huge that their labor violations become _class action lawsuits_ and Feds get involved. They've been torched more than once for doing that kind of thing.
"we're just super short staffed" is fun because it also means what are they gonna do, fire you and make it worse?
Worked for a small company once, let my boss know I needed some time off 6 months in advance and he told me to bring it up closer to the date. Asked again 3 months in advance and he said the same thing. Kept going like this for a while. At 1 month before the day I told him I was buying tickets and reserving a room and he really needed to let me know if there was going to be a problem and he still wouldn't commit.
3 days before I remind him that I'm leaving and he tells me I can't because he never approved it and he needed me there. I wouldn't have it. I told him that I gave him plenty of notice and plenty of chances to tell me no. Everything was paid for. Everybody knew I was coming. There was no way I could cancel at that point and if he really had a problem with it he could fire me, but I was leaving regardless.
When I came back after that, nobody said a damn thing, but every time I needed time off after that I didn't ask, I just told him I wasn't going to be there about a month in advance.
Is this... really how it works in the real world? Like if we save up enough PTO we can just leave whenever?
edit: yt keeps deleting my replies, if its not already obvious I dont got a job
@@apolloisnotashirt...
That's what pto is.
@@samuelevans738 dawg I aint got a job
@@apolloisnotashirt
Power tripping managers in your area would like to disagree.
@@samuelevans738 dawg I obviously aint got a job
I have used the line "My leave is not a choice for you. Your only choice is if i have a job when i get back"
It helps being the only one who knows the arcane magic of your company's software product
Ironically, I have exactly this kind of job security. Unfortunately I currently have too MUCH job security, because I'm the only one who can fix a lot of things if they break.
One would think that this would be a good thing, except it means that I can never TRULY be on vacation. 😅
@@leyrua yes you can. What are they gonna do? Threaten to let you go?
@@shadeblackwolf1508 They don't have to DO anything. If I leave a problem alone until I get back, it sometimes means _exponentially_ more headache for me to unravel whatever went wrong.
@@leyrua that's fair.
@@shadeblackwolf1508Also, if it's important enough, he's risking the company going under. In which case he may or may not be fired but definitely in need of a new job.
“We’re short staffed”
“Then you can’t afford to fire me”
Yes they can lmfao. If you refuse to be of actual use to the company and won’t actually show up and work then you’re not useful enough to keep around regardless of how short staffed it is
@@gotgunpowderthey got you licking the boots clean don’t they?
@@gotgunpowderhope your boss reads this bro
@@gotgunpowder Would agree wholehearted with you, IF this was only referring to lazy /drunk/stoned goodfernuthings who always just with no warning or reasonable excuse decide on a whim to show up late or whatever days they want when they're scheduled. I have worked with those. Very immature. That is not what is being discussed here. This is a person USING THEIR ALLOTED PTO, and TELLING THE BOSS IN ADVANCE about times they will be unavailable and hence DOING THE ADULT RESPONSIBILITY of keeping anyone who requires that information up to speed, as opposed to leaving them hanging without any store preparation. You should not be penalized for being off when yoy have to be, and only using the amount of time you get to be off as requested, instead of abusing it on a whim. You short of staff? Then hire more people or pay better, or cut store hours a bit. Maybe you can afford to ask somebody to switch hours or offer a temp job. Its not difficult for a boss to do their job, of being yknow, A BOSS, anymore than it needs to be difficult to be an employee who shows up every day and doesn't complain about it or slack off. If our job is to serve you, then your job FUNDAMENTALLY IN PRINCIPLE, is supporting the workers so that we may properly better work for you. Hence you have better functioning employees, hence you make better profit. See how that makes sense??
@@gotgunpowder👢 👅
To quote Ms. Eina Tulle from Danmachi - “If the absence of a single person causes the workflow to breakdown, it’s the organization’s fault”
Enjoy being poor then.
I asked for ONE day off at my job. I NEVER take days off. My boss said "we can't let you have off for the indefinite future" I put in my notice on the SPOT y'all. 😂 I also cashed out my PTO before I left; I had around 170 hours of PTO and my paycheck was HUGE. All because they couldn't give me a DAY. Don't let your employer control your life!
My employer doesn’t pay out banked PTO when you leave - in fact, they cancel any previously approved PTO the moment you hand your notice in. It’s in the handbook, so no clue if it’s legal or not. People have gotten fired on the spot for putting their two-weeks notice in before.
I’ve got ~70 hours of PTO banked that they’ve taken to denying my requests for, even on days where I’m sick. Just get me out already
@@GoogahgeeI don't think it's legal, but I have no clue.
@@tobimakkuraDepends on the state. There's no federal law, but 20 states require it, and all states require it if it's written into the contract.
@Googahgee I'd talk to a lawyer that specializes in labor disputes. Most states consider PTO as part of your pay. A blanket refusal to let you use it and punishment if you try sounds like an easy law suit if properly document it. (Any screenshots of company website that shows you have said banked PTO, employment contract you signed when you started working, etc)
@@Googahgee contact the department of labor, and a lawyer; that is *illegal,* all of it. Giving you "PTO" that you can't use is fraud.
We have unlimited PTO at my job. We don't even have to put in for it. Just stick it on the Outlook calendar and make sure people know we're not going to be in. Nobody's ever given a hard time about using it, either.
Unlimited PTO is actually considered a bad thing by many employee advocates. It can't be accumulated for payout, and people, on average, take less time off when they aren't allotted a certain amount annually. Employers KNOW this, which is why so many have started switching to Unlimited PTO. Your personal experience may differ, of course.
Lucky you! How nice it must be to be treated like a dedicated, intelligent professional. The rest of us have to struggle with scenarios like this video and/or chronic micromanagement.
Are you sure you mean pto? As in paid time off? How can you have unlimited paid time off lol. I could understand unlimited unpaid time off. But unlimited paid seems crazy lol.
Are you deadline-based, workwise?
@@CunnyMuncher Not really. I'm a programmer/web dev for a company that does medical records transfers. We work in two week sprints like most of the industry. It's generally desired that work items get completed by the end of the week, but it's understood that sometimes something ends up being more complicated than expected and taking longer, or there's some blockage preventing it from getting done. My boss and his boss are also experienced in the field and know how these things go.
Sometimes there will be some emergency where something on production won't be working correctly and we need to fix it immediately, but that doesn't happen too often.
Fight for your time off. Fight to have one full month off every year. Have a proper break. You’re not a machine and you’re not a corporate slave. It’s management’s stinking problem if they’re short staffed and shouldn’t fall to the workers in full in their gaps.
A whole MONTH?! Wow! I can't even imagine having a whole month off. We're forced to use our PTO if we have a sick day so it's almost impossible for me to manage more than a four day weekend!
@@dracofirex you might wanna have a full blown rebellion there… fight for your humanity and downtime…. Even though you shouldn’t have to. Join a union as well
@@Snezzleify There's no union for call centers, sadly. I have managed to get a small amount of influence with upper management and I've been working on them to be more reasonable. Things are actually BETTER than they used to be!
My last job would have holidays off. Like we were not allowed to work those days, the entire clinic.And then they would use our pto to cover them......yep@@Snezzleify
I work so much and have no life so I actually get bored if I have more than 3 days off in a row.
yes. You are not required to explain your PTO, neither receive calls from your boss during said time.
Isn‘t it even considered a „breach of resting time“ when you get work related calls during your off time?
@@blacky_Ninja Yep! And companies have been forced to pay back pay before over that exact issue.
@@blacky_Ninjathat all depends on your job.
Enjoy being jobless if you think like that
@@gotgunpowderironic
Her first mistake was picking up the phone.
Yup
It was for vindication. And she got it.
These videos make me feel just a bit better about being terminally unemployed.
Yeah, same.
@@smokinggnu6584
I love these. I wish I had been as brave as Veronica when I was working. I was always afraid of losing my job. Thankfully, I was able to retire at 60 years old and left all of that BS behind me.
Why are you terminally unemployed?
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206
Probably was one of those 7 interviews they wouldn‘t take for stupid reasons.
Because op is lazy and unemployable lol@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206
Looking at the comment section y'all too good hearted.
I ran a Jimmy Johns that only seemingly employed 16-17 yr olds, me being in me 20s at the time so by law I had to handle a ton of stuff that minors couldn't touch like knives, slicers, etc also I could not by company policy leave them alone in the store so I worked for years with no breaks at work.
Fast forward and I'm beat down, tired of dealing with the idiot assistant manager they sent to the store and decide man I need to go on vacation. To which I was denied, but the other managers from our sister store whos shift and shit I covered for their vacation didn't get denied (never make yourself kore valuable than your wage kids companies don't give a fuck about you) which lead to me waiting for us to get our usual big church catering for a Sunday, told the owners no worries, I'll handle it. So the night before I set up everything in the store like normal, set out all the extra stuff and just never came to open or unlock the store. The produce, profits and reputation they lost that day fucked em up pretty bad and forced the owners to start covering shifts nearly full time.
…Did you wind up going to jail or have charges pressed on you?
I mean, that’s just extreme enough that the question is warranted.
That’s… not illegal dawg
@@stetsonherrick8090 No it's called quitting 🤦
@@stetsonherrick8090 That doesn't mean it didn't have consequence, I still had to get employed again and it couldn't be with any company even remotely related to those cock suckers. Also you then have a giant gap on your resume because you can't reference them. Which wasn't a huge deal for me I just went to the next town over and got a higher paying job.
There are many cases where quitting is borderline illegal, context is important.
In this case I wouldn’t worry about it. Quitting in this case did not directly lead to loss of life or destruction of property.
1st time in a yr of working I asked for 2 days off, they “couldn’t” guarantee I could get it approved cuz someone might call out sick. So I called in sick for those two days, I had over 200 hrs of pto saved up by the time of that request. Now I just tell them I have to be gone these days and ask my coworker to cover for me and if she can’t I just add that they need to find someone to cover me.
200? Ive been working at where im at for a year and idek if ive gotten 20 hours of pto
@@BroodingAcornnow that's some bullshit
It almost annoys me how perfectly you captured that callus tone the boss gives you when they want to be mad but can't be cause you did nothing wrong. 😂 Well done!
Paid vacation time, it's part of your compensation. If you don't take it corporate saves money.
Not entirely, they have to withhold finds for a certain percentage of it. So if they need to cut overhead they will force employees to take pto. Its legal in some states and if it happens to you start job hunting cause that conpany doesnt value your time
i have never "asked" for time off.
i simply inform the company when there is a change in my availability.
if they refuse or push back then i just leave as planned and they can deal with it while im not there.
i have never once signed a reprimand of any kind.
Here in Germany you get atleast 24 days of vacation by law.
Currently at the beginning of a 4 week vacation
God it must be nice to live somewhere with sane work laws and regulations
Saving up to move there some day. I spent 6 months there almost a decade ago and it’s incredible there
It's similar in Poland. The boss will remind you and even push for you to get your yearly vacations, because they get in trouble if you don't do it.
@@kaksspl I'm ethnically over 60% polish, so that would also be an interesting place for me to live
The manager can approve pto, or I can take sick leave. Those are the two choices.
Do that enough where I work and they fire you for it.
@@dracofirex not if I have a doctor's note. Not where I live
@@TheHighborn A doctor's note might do it! It's mostly if you request PTO, it gets rejected, and then you call in "sick" that gets you flagged. The doctor's note would still flag the person for day 1 but not all following sick days. Oh and we are required to take PTO for our sick days whether we want to or not and our PTO is also our vacation time.
@@dracofirex I live in the EU, and it's company policy that everybody must use all their pto every year. There are mandatory days tho.
As for the doctor's note, it has to be shown as the first 15 sick days in a year mean I still get 75% of my wages for that time, and the next 15 days after at 50% if I'm not mistaken.
Also it's massively illegal to fire a sick person.
@@dracofirexand?
"Yeah, I submitted it 3 months ago. There was plenty of time to figure things out."
One time I actually *did* get a day off from work and when the schedule came out I still worked that day. I told my boss “What the heck you approved that day off for me and I’m still on it” and they said “Just find someone to cover you”. Boi I already was planned not to work that day and now I needed to find someone to cover a work day that I already was supposed to have off!
it's THEIR job to find someone to fill in. they wanted you to do their job
We had a great HR admin; she would remind you how much PTO you were owed and how much of that was going to expire come the first of next month.
(standard annual PTO was added on May 1st)
Almost every year I took a week or more off in March to not waste my PTO entitlement.
Earned 'time for time' PTO almost every month so that *or more* was usually quite a bit more.
This sounds so accurate. My workmates have actually had this problem quite a few times in the past. I felt so bad for Ms. Rachel when she had put in time off for an important doctor's appointment and they gave everyone else who requested it the day off but not her. What sucks even more is that not only did she was the first to request that day off 2 weeks in advance but she had been working every single day for the past month. I genuinely thought she was going to cry 🙁
I don't request days off.
I give notices of absence.
Well it must be nice because for most blue collar workers that results in termination. You pull that in retail, call center, factory or ware house then you get fired. Hell I got fired for having a seizure at work and falling out at my desk. It was a work hazard and I took an unexcused break. Verizon waited til after the holidays to terminate me because that's when being short staffed is convenient.
@@chrisscritchfield670that is, absolutely fucking illegal by the way. You can’t fire people for medical conditions and disabilities (obviously)
I had submitted a form for a funeral I had to go to and they had called me during the wake because it wasn’t “a sufficient notice ahead of time.” I was maxed out on PTO too and my manager approved me the day I submitted the form.
I loved that. I had a place try that stuff with me. "Ya know I requested this off three months in advance. Anything more than two weeks isn't me asking it's me telling you I won't be here. Now if it's within 2 weeks then it's a request." They didn't like that. I even got a call when i was in the military. Had my leave approved and they call me "hey so uh where you at? Why you not in formation." My dude I'm in an airport 5 states away. You have no power here. Lol
One of the very good things about being a pizza delivery guy is that whenever I want time off, I get it.
Wow Veronica looks super cute with this animation style
If PTO is part of your compensation, it is not subject to approval, although a manager might reasonably ask for advance warning or if you could make sure a particular task is handed off. People get sick without notice and people go to funerals for people they didn't expect to die and have dental emergencies and doctor appointments all the time. Those are no more important than attending your kid's school play or moving your friend into a new apartment. Your employer has no right to your private health or relationship details, so you can happily cite those in refuse to explain what you're taking earned leave for. Give reasonable notice when you can, but don't imply they have any right to the details, or refuse and tell you no. If they claim they're short-handed, firing you should be the last thing they do.
I know it's a bit, but I feel like they'd try to use it as grounds to terminate you later if they're actually short staffed atm.
Leaves are so members don’t need to feel guilty about choosing between taking care of their family, or keeping their jobs, and why they don’t require approval.
Vacation still needs approval from your manager and this is why it can be denied if they are short staffed. 👍🏻
@@CSEA-Chap42 Maybe in a fifth world nation like the US. Nowhere else can deny your leave as its a right not a privilege.
if you cant, or wont, properly staff your business to manage when staff take leave then thats a YOU problem, caused by your own incompetence. Your staff are not responsible for your failure to manage your business.
Wow this conversation is so unreal to me. I have not worked outside my home since the year 2000 but I can assure you that PTO wasn’t even a thing back then LOL. That would be the equivalent of playing hooky from school. If you need a doctor’s note to take a sick day how the heck do you just take personal time off from your 5 day a week job? Stat holidays and vacation time isn’t enough? My husband has worked for the same company for the past decade+. He’s never been late or taken a sick day. He took a few days off when we got married and was not paid for it. He’s never taken a single day of vacation. He has worked double shifts any time he was asked to. He has worked a 7 day schedule for months on end when needed. He has never said no to extra shifts or hours. He wouldn’t even call in if he was in hospital for fear of being replaced. I’m blown away at the way this Veronika treats her employers. I didn’t even know this generation single handedly changed the work force.
@@ResinEssenceByCheri
but I can assure you that PTO wasn’t even a thing back then LOL
Because paid annual lerave didnt exist in 2000....got it..rightttttttttttttttt....
He took a few days off when we got married and was not paid for it
I took three weeks off work in 2000 and got paid for every single day. Poor you.
He’s never taken a single day of vacation
Remember to put that on his gravestone.
I’m blown away at the way this Veronika treats her employers
What rock have you been hiding under for the last 70 years?
You are trolling...right?
@@ResinEssenceByCheri
I didn’t even know this generation single handedly changed the work force.
They didnt. its been this way for decades..outside, of course, the hellscape that is laughingly called "the greatest nation on earth"
Which it isnt.
Fun thing is LSC approved time in March then day before trip says have to work middle day because noone will cover and she will be out of state. Or calls day before working to say pull a shift starting ing 3hrs. Upper kept overlooking falsified documents,pay fraud...hope she goes to jail
I'm really lucky that 2/3 of my department's leadership are super chill and always approve my PTO
You could make an entire series just about the bullshit that hiring teams do.
My workplace refused to approve PTO I'd saved for years.
I work at a place that is short staffed and they have a mentality of "if people call in sick and its your day off, we gave you the day and we gotta lie in that bed now" instead of asking if i can come in, makes me feel lucky seeing this.
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Damn yall get PTO, unreal..
I used to work for the VA as an RN. I was also in the National Guard. We had to give our schedules to our manager as soon as it was given so they could plan the schedule around our drill.
Our schedules generally came out 2 weeks in advance. Made planning doctors appointments and events with the kids mearly impossible. She would 50/50 schedule me to work on my drill days. I'd show her the memorandum I'd given her months ago and remind her of the law. She'd pull the standard "I don't know if I can find coverage for you" spiel. We had 2 weeks of military leave so it was pretty much two paychecks for that day.
I quit once they absolutely slam dunked their handling of COVID (into the wrong hoop).
Is it weird that I book time off, not as vacay cause idk I feel they can decline that, but I book time off and say “I am communicating with you what days I am not here”
Like no you don’t get an option I am letting you know cause you can call I am not available.
I pulled this string a lot because coming out of the military, I knew nobody's life was on the line wherever i could be working next (I worked for a tire shop and then a department store after my discharge.)
If management doesnt play this card about PTO, they'll play it when it comes to early outs, sick days and overtime.
One of those companies I worked with intentionally kept me at 38 hours a week, so that I'd do the work of a fulltimer without the added benefits of insurance + PTO.
My boss threw something across the shop, so I left and got fired on the spot. My next company treated me better, but that was because they hired me on as a fulltime worker from the start: their parttimers get the same runaround I got when i was with my old company.
Bottom line, if you want respect, apply for only fulltime positions. Parttime positions are not meant to be permanent, even if they try to entice you with a fulltime position
If you submit PTO always punctuate it by stating you won't come in on those days, submitted some for a vacation myself before and told my boss I'd be across the country, to her surprise I was
Man, ever since my job went to 12 hour shifts, we're basically punished for using PTO at all.
One week, we have 3 days, and if we work the full 36 hours, we get the also get the extra 4 hours to make up a 40 hour week, but if we use our PTO at all, we only get the 36 hours.
The next week, we work 4 days, and if we work the full 48 hours, the extra 8 hours are paid out as OT, but if we use our PTO, the extra 8 hours are just straight pay.
Why punish your employees for having a life outside of work???
At my job if you got PTO don't request your day off, just call in the day of that your gonna use it
CFO here:
Take that leave! If any size company has a problem with it (and they weren't suddenly very short-staffed), they don't have their shit together. Period.
Just got through bs like this.
Hell I even understand putting it in a month or 2 earlier.
But when you follow their stupid game and they still deny you afterwards just take those days off anyway.
You played fair, they didn't , they can get bent or get over it.
This pisses me off so bad, cuz the conversation is so true....
PTO should never be a request it should be a warning.
PTO is one of those things that makes sense on paper, but tends to fall short in practice
Oh god you nailed the condescending tone too well
You forgot the part where the manager says "you've really put us in a bind, you should have reminded us."
Even a month in advance, and everyone that I work with knows it's unlikely to get your PTO approved.
I dont "request" days off. I let them know what days I won't be working. And I post in the work group chat asking for coverage. Nobody says a word in that thing, but I've asked, so nobody can say I didn't try. Nobody will say a word because I am the most valuable worker at that DQ. Ps, dont work at a DQ
Where I work the approvals are more or less automatic as long as its not a situation where more than half the staff all want the same week off. You fill out and hand in the form, supervisor puts it on the schedule and signs off on it. In the case of too many people want off at the same time we discuss it to see if anybody is willing and able to shift to a different week but its first come first served if nobody can or will. Thats the policy anyway, realistically its never come up because we tend to talk with our coworkers about our vacation plans well in advance and make sure we don't overlap too much.
What worst is when they take your pto for not using despite you scheduling enough
I just recently got my first job, and I guess I should consider myself lucky that during my interview they understood and would let me go for a family event for 3 days in July. I was worried they wouldn’t hire me because of that, because I’ve heard of people not getting hired/facing penalties/getting fired for just trying to take time off.
The only thing worse than dealing with this at a corporate level is at a small business. Since I basically run the business by myself, it’s a struggle to even get the boss/owner to give me a long weekend. Makes you want to go talk to HR… oh wait! That’s his wife!
Company advertises pto benefits and then get pissy when you use them.
Months ago I took two days off and scheduled them two weeks in advance, my boss tried to say I didn't give enough time for them to replace me on those days and I only responded that the had since last month to figure this out. I got my time off, but it did require two emails, and calling the DoN at the start of her shift just to complain. The next time I put in for time off it was approved immediately.
Moat companies only allow a certain amount of people to take off on the same day so you can't just say I won't be here unless you have sick time depending on the company
By law if you are scheduled to have the day off you 0 legal obligation to even pick up the phone It is not your responsibility as the employee to make up for the failings of your employer to properly maintain the schedule or the employee Labor hours.
Yet she wasn't scheduled for that day off. She jist decided to take it off. In the real world at actual companies, certain types of time off need to be approved or at least scheduled. Even being sick requires letting someone know in a certain period of time.
Ohh I had a manager like this and she did everything to not approve a week off
Love my job. Middle of a big project is the only time my parents can get free so we can all go visit my sister. Let my coworkers know, so long as I account for it and get my part done, all good.
Want to take off the week of my birthday? All good!
There’s only like 2 weeks each year that are off limits to PTO.
if your contract gives you a set amount of pto, then they are legally obligated to approve it or to give you a cash pay out of equivalent value
Just told my boss i wouldn't be there regardless (asked for a monday and friday). Not my fault you haven't had someone to cover my job for 3 months.
Chad ye olden businesses: "we're closed for the day because it's sunny out"
Modern businesses: "yes I know there's a tornado, but that's no excuse to be 5 minutes late"
We really have gone downhill
I end up using my PTO on migraines, but my boss never fails to approve my request, even if I have 0 hours left. We just have an understanding that I won't be paid for the time off if I'm out of PTO.
Good for you Veronica
Yea man some of these managers are hard headed. I used to work overnights at Waffle House and the schedule was good, but they change it and regret. One time they gave both me and my bro 2 days off and went out to drink at hooters. Some beers in u get called to come in not if I can. I said no I’m drunk. Then they offer Uber to go to work. One hour later I get another call of where aim i? Then my bro go a call saying that i was unavailable and he said no and said he’s drunk with me. They really wanted us to get a DUI for work when we are already treated like low class by the first shift and the manager.
Veronica's scowl in the thumbnail says it all.
I have quit jobs over not giving me my Vaca or PTO.
My boss is like this, even though pto is automatically approved if its 2 weeks out 😂
I remember in like 2018 I submitted leave for Christmas to have like 20-28 December off or something and I submitted it around July/August because I wanted to be sure I got in early. Heard nothing until like the week before and was sent a text from my mager saying something like "your leave for 19-30 december has been approved" and on the 19th my manager's boss calls me asking where I am and i said im on leave as approved and won't see them until next year since they were back like january or something.
Fast forward to 10th January and I'm being written up for taking "unapproved leave" despite me showing the text and proving I was given incorrect dates for my leave. Since I had no access to my leave request form I couldnt remember the exact dates since it was submitted like almost 6 months prior.
"Oh my pto was denied? Well shit looks like I'm calling in sick that day" nah but for real, it's nice working for a company where you can say I need a couple of days off in like 2 weeks says and they just go "say less"
I’ve had my company call me and tell me they need me back two days into a vacation. I told them unless they plan on putting me in a hotel on their time and send me new equipment at the hotel, it won’t happen.
I've never had a job that offered PTO as a benefit...
You fake the call dropping? I just tell them no. They do not pay me nearly enough to care about their issues.
No. She did not say that she was not going to be in that day or the next like she claims. She said she was submitting pto on that day. And it got declined. If she thinks that the company needs to just bend over and let her do whatever she wants with no consequences then she needs a new job.
Nah they pay us to work for them dude, we get to have PTO it's on our contract
Don't give em a choice. That's how you do it.
When a job won't let me take time off I quit that job.
Best way to have them give it to you is to tell them they can either approve of it, or give you your whole years worth of PTO in a check at the end of the year along with your paycheck. They legally cannot offer your PTO and not let you use it or cash out.
That's not necessarily true. For actual vacation time accumulated it is. But sick and pto may not roll over or be cashed put by every company
I am surprised that she didn't threaten to fire her.
Yeah whenever I'm out i get the side eye from my coworkers for having to pick up the slack. Yet they take all sorts of time off when they feel like it...
Same when my mom use to work in a main office of a school
Remember telling your place of employment you wont be available is NOT a request never take the fall for managements short sightedness
Worked at a mental health clinic on my last job. Our office was closed on all holidays, so no one could work, because it was closed
However, they would then take OUR PTO to cover the day that they forved us to take off. So if you had previously scheduled a day off in advance they would cancel it saying " oh the holiday took up your pto so you can't do that anymore." We had no choice in the matter
ngl that seems illegal
@thea_therian yeah, honestly it probably was...thank god i am at a much better job now.
Yeah it's illegal. If you weren't paid for the mandatory time off and they took it from your PTO it's literally wage theft.
Wait, that's illegal? Sam's Club would do this shit for holidays when I used to work there. Sure, you could tell them not to use your PTO, but then you wouldn't be getting paid for the holiday at all. I always felt like that was sketchy.
@@limetime9045 you guys are making me really sad 😭😭😭
Take back civil standards.
"Look. I will not be in this coming week. *Period.* What you need to do is let me know if you want me to come back afterwards or not."
Unionize
Mine was trying to fire me because i let them know like 11 months in advanced and they either threw out their calender or misplaced it on purpose
*turn on Airplane Mode during the call.
It will come on on their end as, "call was dropped', as opposed to just hanging up.
I have 4 days of sick time to use before the end of the fiscal year (june 30), and my boss is giving me crap about scheduling it to use it before i lose it. And when i would use it would ne on days where it diesnt impact anyone's schedule to cover me.
My job has elective for overtime. You get paid extra or you add it to your vacation pool. As of mid year i have doubled by vacation time from overtime and country legal system will have their balls in the vice if I don't go under double digits on it by yhe year end. My manager is asking me to take the PTO because hr is harassing him for excessive obertime and vacation days.
no Jeannette, *you* need *me*
This is why government jobs rule because i get pto and nobody can decline it when i use it.
We had a great pto amount at a old job but only would get approved by the managers. Well the shits wouldn't approve anyone's so at the end of the year they either could take the days at half pay or lose the days. So December comes and it's our busy seasona and we have half the work force out for 3+ weeks and there all asking us for ot. Fuck em, glad I left
"We just hired two people. Decided to take your advice and stop being so picky. You're fired."
"K bye lmao"
I mean, if a place is gonna fire you for using your pto to retain your sanity? Better off looking elsewhere. Dont forget the whole “use it or lose it” pto that also turns into “we cant approve any of the pto times youve listed.”
“But if i dont use it ill lose it.”
“You shouldnt have been so stingy with your pto then.”
What do I do when I'm required to submit my PTO and can only use my PTO for doctors appointments. When I do just take the PTO I'm slapped with something they call "unplanned time off" and written up.
Get FMLA
@@anjalE30 I don't qualify for FMLA because I have recently been promoted and to be promoted you have to move to another company, so I've lost my time in position and everything else that comes along with it.
I've been doing the job since 2013.
I thought the whole point of PTO was you can take it off for whatever the personal need is. Since when are you required to specify what the need is?
CSEA 42 and many other is so much better than CSAE 579. CSEA 579 and management hanging up on employee is outrageous
Tell me, what ist PTO? Is this an USA thing? You also have sick days, right?
I am from central europe, i don't understand the struggle in this Video entirely.
Thanks in advance.
EU here ... PTO Personal Time Off...
20 days par year, 1 day after year 1 then every full 5th year another day => PAR YEAR
example for 7 years at the job you get 20+1+1 day of that year that you take whenever you want...
rules: 1 day off => 3 workdays ahead, preferably 1 week
1 full week or more => 4/6 weeks in advance if you please.
If you need more, you can ask, there is no obligation to alowe any more.
Courtdays are seperate and your boss can take up his chances with the judge ... I'll wait...
I never understud the Murican/Japaneese problem with no days of and begging your boss for a day off + your boss calling you back in on your day off. My boss does not even get my phone number.
Isn't USA the land of the free? Or is only your boss free and are white/asian/black united on the stockmarked owned cotton feelds?
Don't worry soon the Africans and Muslims will take over your country and ya won't have work cheers m8 😂😂😂😂😂
I just have my work and managers numbers blocked on those days. 🤣
Thank you
This why having to asks 2weeks in advance is stupid.
Its not my fault that we're understaffed. That's a you problem. Not s me problem.