@@filiperoque1801 CW shows start fine or even good but then slowly or rapidly decline season after season. There being worse shows out there doesn’t really mean much
@@notserious6458 That makes Legends of Tomorrow the Anti-CW CW show as that started okay at best and ended with one of the stronger seasons that show had.
@@mrcroob8563 Because when I mean fine, I'm not saying CW shows are just mediocre shows, just that they are better than their trashy reputation. If you want "good" shows, the CW definitely has some: Supernatural, The 100, Nikita, The Originals, Smallville, Superman & Lois, iZombie, Stargirl and Legends of Tomorrow are all pretty good watches. Arrow and The Vampire Diaries have a couple rough seasons, but are still more good than bad. Riverdale is pretty great if you know what you're getting into. Plus there's some comedy shows like Jane the Virgin, Reaper and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend that are well regarded too. (I don't watch comedies, so I can't really say much about them).
Found it kind of funny Liv’s boyfriends died each season. Like we knew that Major was the one for her but come on, did you have to kill the competition?
ya the CWness sort of crept in here, and it made Major and especially Liv unlikable because of the speed at which they just flip flop and go from madly in love to i have a secret boyfriend/girlfriend. I get its a CW show and everyone needs to kiss everyone because that's how these shows work but when you show a long term committed relationship like what major and liv have, and then do this sorta stuff, i do not believe they are meant for eachother, and i don't really think Liv should be in any committed relationship.
@@SaiShiroKuro I just hated that Major and Liv were perfect for each other, but the show just kept delaying, breaking them apart and all that. It didn't make these characters unlikable, but it was super annoying and it ruined so much stuff...
@@retroshark8 i think some of it definitely made me view liv in a bad light, specifically in season 2 when major and liv break it off, and then there isn't even a full episode before Liv finds a new zombie boyfriend that she also actively feels bad enough about to hide it from major. definitely undermines the narrative that these two characters should end up together.
@@SaiShiroKuro It's a shame since otherwise this show (at least in my opinion) has great writing. I also noticed a similar thing with many other shows... WHY??!!! Instead of making a show with obvious, but good romance, they just don't (I'm probably that mad because romance is my favorite genre.) Few examples of that would be: "Buffy the vampire slayer", "vampire diaries"... "Lucifer" at first glance is also that way, but I believe that it isn't... Why???!!!
I always thought Blaine's final demise--being pushed down a well to go feral and be forgotten--was a sort of fitting end to him. All series he's always acted as an untouchable big shot, and what better punishment for someone like that than an ending devoid of dignity? No blaze of glory, no stare down with the hero dealing a finishing blow with final words....Just pushed from behind by his right hand underling. The fact that it mirrors the death he'd planned for his father just makes it better.
I loved Clive in this series, he got even better after he learned about Zombies. And the way they foreshadowed him being okay with things was hilariously done with D&D.
iZombie is such a hidden gem of a show. Had it's own style and so many great characters. Major is a great example. On paper and by description alone, he seems like an absolute joke, but over time, he became one of my favorites because the characters in this show actually have arcs and change over time. But the show remains fun and campy pretty much the whole time until the very end.
IZombie series 1 and about half of 2 is one of my favourite shows ever. Smart, punchy, well written, great characters, puppy and fun - really great. I reccomended it to a lot of people. The last season and the one before it may be my least favourite show ever made. I have never both loved and hated a show so much. By the time we got to people smuggling, her execution and her transformations from eating being so incredibly over the top in a way they never were before, I just hated it and was watching to see how much worse it could get. And to my shock they always managed to do it.
@@medes5597 Ya my wife and i were watching it together and dropped off quickly in season 2. it just goes from an interesting concept a show to a really formulaic show where you know the needle is never going to advance until the grand finale of the show.
I like iZombie at the start. I just hate the romantic relationships Liv and Major goes through. Like I know they want these two to end up with each other but give it actual development than excuses for them to break up and then get back together. I honestly feel like Liv has better compatibility with everyone else but Major.
Right? Early on, I was worried that Major was going to be Duncan Kane 2.0 and just the most boring, pointless requisite love interest dude. But it was set it up like that to the point even his name even being *Major Lilywhite* seems like an on the nose pun... then the season 1 arc happens and how it ends just blew me away. And it kept going from there.
I was young and dumb when I watched this show for the first time. 6 years and dating a polisci guy later and I clocked it immediately and promptly lost my shit
The thing about Liv's family/brother makes me so mad because there are these great deleted scenes from season 2 where Liv tells her brother the truth about her, and he comes out as gay to her, and they're really heartfelt and sweet and actually provid closure on that arc, but instead they're like, nah her family thinks she's awful and she doesn't talk to them for three years! Infuriating.
That iZombie having such a lacklustre ending in order for a season of Veronica Mars that killed Logan Echolls OFFSCREEN to be priortised is akin to the writer's strike cutting Pushing Daisies short in crimes against whimsical, camp TV shows, that have a unique way of finding out info from murder victims. Why must this super niche genre be so unlucky. To this day Pearl Jam's 'Just Breathe' makes me cry.
or the NBC cop show Life getting canned so Jay Leno could return to late night taking the 10 PM time slot that it and 4 other shows had (one for each week night). Never forget 5 shows got cancelled to play to Jay Leno's vanity.
@@ThestuffthatSaralikes I'll never give hope until one of the cast passes away. Hugh Dancy and Mads Mikkelsen were only talking last week of a 'Hannibal' revival. Bryan Fuller never says die, he says "the facts were these."
Didnt even know it was a cw show untill now because it obviously wasnt on cw channel in my country. Most CW shows seem riddled with plotholes and romances that go nowhere and im glad they didnt fall into those too many times in this show.
57:58 one thing i loved about Brother Love is how they made many of his teachings direct quotes from when we saw Blaine "visit" his dad in the well. Like what he says here about having them by their "short and curlies" or what becomes a sort of catch phrase for his newfound religiosity "god loves you. He means it" because Blaine would always leave his dad with "love you, mean it" (sarcastically i might add) while his dad was slowly losing his mind down in the well. So Blaine's dad thought Blaine's voice was the voice of god the whole time 😂 Just goes to show what excellent writing this show was capable of.
Nah literally stopped watching a video going into a deep dive over a movie I actually watched to see this, a show I not once stopped to see a single episode of.
The 3 frame message about how the dominatrix clip being the most replayed moment of the video made me rewatch it like 5 times to catch it. The self fulfilling prophecy is back.
Woah dude, this show rarely gets talked about so I'm really excited to watch. It's simply a charming and funny show. I really appreciate how they aren't afraid to break the status quo, especially in the later seasons. The characters are probably what carries it the most though, they're just all so damn likable. I think Major is one of the most unique characters I've ever seen. Sure there's stupid plot contrivances but at the end of day it's good fun, with some emotional beats that actually hit. The theme song is a banger too.
This is exactly how I felt about it. The formula change and mixup of the status quo kept it good for me personally. Yes the romances could be annoying and the ending was written in a rushed state with the time skip but overall it's one of my favorite shows
I loved this show, I remember watching this and Lucifer kinda side by side with an at-the-time partner and I agree some of the cases were kinda weak at times but the times where Liv goes off the rails from the brains was always fun to watch Side note: I love all the silly pun names in this show Live Moore, Meat Cute, Fillmore Graves, so good
@@Anonymousebean That's how I Always understood it. Maybe because of the German Synchronisation. We have very good voice actors but Sometimes that means some english words Sound different
don't forget about the Amazon stand-in, YouFreightEze (Euphrates) and its CEO, Ty Griss 😂 I just know they were cracking themselves up in the writers room
"the guy who voices the announcer in Ratchet: Deadlocked??" That's Cosmo from _Fairly OddParents,_ man! He was also the janitor in Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide
The actual best part about izombie is that if your relatives only ever watch NCIS, Criminal Minds, CSI, Blue Bloods, etc... it's something relatively tolerable you can get them to put on
When I found out the lead actress was a power ranger in one of the better PR seasons I was instantly into this show. Sadly it kinda slipped my mind after a while.
Between her and Eka Darville showing up in Jessica Jones, we only need one more to show up for the hat trick of RPM Rangers showing up in Comic Book Crime Dramas.
Can we all just applaud Rose McIver's work on this series? Having to play a diverse range of characteristics as Liv while remaining the same core character is NOT an easy task for an actor. It's fantastic to see where she went in her Career after starting out as a Guest child actor on "Hercules the legendary Journeys", but would've been most known before iZombie for her Tenure on "Power Rangers RPM". ...yes, Seriously. For those who've not seen, RPM's one of the REALLY good ones of that franchise, and probably the LAST good one ever made.
I always thought that actress from orphan black was the best with all the clones she played but Rose from iZombie beat her to it. So many different characters and she made them all work and that in a hilarious and sometimes serious way. Gosh she deserves so much more recognition
Im sure Ravi is everyone's favourite, hes mine too, but I love Clive's all seriousness-no bull persona, it makes it funnier when he gets into Liv and Ravi's shenanigans, like the D&D episode. Also im a sucker for the "new guy in town doesnt fit in, ends up making BFFs trope".
My favorite has always been Blaine! He got damaged and kinda destroyed by his own father and just became evil to stick it to him. I won’t apologize what he did but he did tried to redeem himself with his amnesia until Don E interfered with it lol Don E & Blaine were so hilarious together
This is honestly one of the few CW shows that I think holds up mostly well years later only things but really irked me is the ending but with what they had to work with and the limited time they had to make it happen I completely understand I also hate that seasons four and five were never released on DVD
I like to believe Howard Hamlin underwent zombification when his body was put under the meth lab, and took the name Blaine Debeers over the events of Breaking bad in the background, and several years later the zombie outbreak happens starting the events of The Walking Dead. It just makes too much sense if you never watched any of these shows.
I just got done watching Better Call Saul and this makes sense to me. Howard reminded me so much of well put together, human version of Blaine every time he was on screen...the actors even kinda sound similar. 🤣
I recently rewatched iZombie and there's an episode where one of Liv and Peyton's sorority sisters is drugged and killed while skydiving...her name was Holly White. I immediately thought of this comment. 🤣
iZombie season 1 was an absolute masterpiece. I loved this show and even my dad a very picky SciFi geek fell in love with it too. We watched the first season together religiously.
I would actually love to know if anyone ever watched both iZombie and Santa Clarita Diet. SCD came a few years after iZombie and even though it got canceled, it had a lot of the same fun energy and zombie shenanigans. Drew Barrymore plays the zombie and she is so likable and so goddamn funny as a Californian realtor turned zombie trying to be a mom and figure out what happened to her
I love both those shows. iZombie I think has such a strong first season that nothing after really captures the magic again, but SCD felt like it only got better with time, and I'm eternally sad it got canned. Abbey in that show is also my headcanon favourite representation of someone with ASPD. Absolutely no guilt, totally unphased by all the madness around her, constant risk-taking behaviour, but still with the capacity to care for the people close to her and a sense of morality, because those things don't just go away if you have a decent upbringing. There's an entire arc there that she never *quite* got where she's troubled by the fact she explicitly DOESN'T feel bad about killing a couple people.
Be prepared to bust some more. All the names. Major Lilywhite. Philmore Graves. Chase Graves. Redd Harrington. Eva More, Evan More. General Mills and Chakra Body (Ravi). This is just from this video. I remember rolling my eyes each episode to a rando name with double meanings.
@@bjwimer I never understood the major lilywhite thing. I just thought his name was weird but i guess it means majorly naive. Which doesnt really fit his character as he is very inquisitive but i guess thats the joke or the fact they could later call him major major for that one scene.
@@bjwimer If you love the punny names in this show, then may I suggest the TV show GRIMM. In one episode there's a deeply religious woman with the name JOAN VARK. (I SHIT YOU NOT.)
Major's my favorite character. Looked like a golden retriever at first, Major wastes no time doing some of the most insane things. Like hopping in a murderer's trunk in order to follow them around
Ooh this should be fun. One thing I have to say with this show, I love Major's story arc in the first season. The show isn't afraid to reveal things to its characters pretty quick which is nice for a show like this. EDIT: FUCK YES IT'S AWESOME
What I love most is how both Scratching and curing people in this show is like instantaneous. Like the body just knows "oh I got a scratch.. guess im a zombie now." like within a second.
I looked forward to this show every week. It’s one of my favorite shows and not enough people know about it. Even when the writing was subpar in the later seasons, the actors carried the show. They all have such great chemistry
I completely agree. After watching the first two seasons, I was so invested in the characters, that the flaws of the later seasons didn't really bother me. And that is thanks to the core cast. The cast had such amazing chemistry and charm. One of the best casts of any show, in my opinion.
Even with its flaws, iZombie is one of my favorite series. One of the highlights for me was the Rob Thomas... no, that one. at the end of s2, especially since I didn't know of the show runner/producer one, so I genuinely thought Matchbox 20 was not only the artist for the opening song (they're not) but dude had branched out.
I used to love this series so so much. I binge watched it with my mum and I specifically remember when Clive was running from the zombie after the outbreak in that one party and me and my mum were screaming and jumping so bad that she hit me in the face and gave me a nose bleed. Even if it is cheesy, it still holds a special place for me.
I got into it because I was a big Once Upon a Time fan at the time and Rose Mclver and David Anders were on that show as Tinker Bell and Dr. Frankenstein, so the fandom would bring up this show once in a awhile. I'm so glad it did because i fell in love with this show!!
Oh man I loooooved this show! Around the time that Major started working for Fillmore Graves, it just lost its appeal. As much as i tried to muddle through another episode, I just couldn't, no matter how much I had loved it before. Very good run down, glad I finally know what happened.
Kind of the same for me. I still watched it but I stopped when Seattle became a Zombie-city. I just .... can't watch this anymore. It was always kind of nice that Liz had to hide and lie to the public about the effects the brains had on her and that it was just ... normal.
Yeah. Like, season 2 was tolerable, it definitely had it's moments, but it started to get a bit less of it's own identity and the brain changes stopped being 'Liv gets a quirk from someone' and became more 'Liv's personality gets altered', which while it makes sense in the story (Liv deliberately doesn't fight the influence to get more/better visions), it was less entertaining to watch. Zombies being a freak accident because of a bad batch of drugs and a corrupt energy company is fun, making them generic Evil Corp who wants supersoldiers less so. Then the city got zombified and it became a whole different show.
i honestly think the most replayed part of the video is mostly replayed just to see what you wrote in the corner XD because i had to rewind to see what it was. A self fulfilling prophecy!!
I'd like to see retrospectives on Lucifer, The Expanse, and Agents of Shield in the future. Lucifer for it's great characters and compelling story arcs, The Expanse for a look at a book to show adaptation that's done well even if the show didn't finish the book series, and Agents of Shield for being a slice of MCU TV Pre-Disney+ that's well worth watching once it gets going.
Season 5 didn't go into the season knowing it was the final season. It was meant to end on the cliff hanger of the Morgue bombing. The final epilogue episode was tacked on in the final hour when they got the news it wasn't being renewed for another season.
I had to pause because this really sounds right up my alley, but I'll come back. After watching the pilot: I was right, I'm in love. I really love Psych and Hannibal, it also reminds me of Warm Bodies and Dead Like Me. Thanks for introducing me to so many new shows ❤️
I loved this show. The first season is actually quite amazing and I enjoyed season two a lot as well. I felt a bit iffy about season three but it was a fun run so I finished it. Never did check out the remaining two seasons so it'll be fun to see whatever happened and how it all ended. The only thing I know is that Blaine ends up in that well.
It's interesting seeing someone actually talk about this show because I never see it brought up really. All I know about it is that my parents worked on some stuff for it lmao
OK more intelligent comment. Making it early so you might mention this in the video. I loved the detail of the zombies getting all red-eyed crazy when they get a huge adrenaline shot. Throughout season one you see Blaine in situations that really ought to get him into that state. He murders constantly. Lowell stabs him out of nowhere. But he never, never gets those glowing red eyes of genuine passion until he's taunting Liv at the end of the season. Blaine is a true-strain psychopath.
Do Veronica Mars next!! So we can all come together and rant about how much we all hated the ending and how Rob Thomas ruined the entire franchise with a single choice.
Super late to the party, but I was on a camping trip with barely any service when they dropped the season early. I came back to civilization just to have my heart shattered in a million pieces which made it impossible until last year to rewatch the first 3 seasons (season 4 just does not exist to me). As meh as the finale of izombie is, I'm glad they all got their happy endings instead of claiming they were more interesting as damaged people.
My mom and I would watch this together and I'm super glad to see someone else who thinks it's really good! I feel like I never see anyone talking about iZombie!
Kudos on your scripting for this video, dude! I genuinely lol'd throughout. Very compelling retelling of a show I never watched but now feel like I have
Another quality video. Your insights are well expressed and frankly, educational, especially for anyone looking to get better at writing good TV. I look forward to these now. Especially after consuming most of your retrospectives. When the rest of the world finds you, they'll be in for a thick and juicy treat.
I said this when you announced you were doing iZombie. I read the premise and thought it sounded cheesy as F, sometimes I avoid series' that I don't think I'll find enjoyable. I watched the first episode for the sole purpose of being able to legitimately say how shit it was but I instantly fell in love with it. I don't even call it a guilty pleasure because I don't feel guilty about it. I know you have pointed out some legitimate issues but I enjoyed every second of it. I love the characters and the chemistry they have. For a comedy show, I also felt the arc for each season was acceptable, if it became overly complex then it would have taken away from the comedy. Malcolm Goodwin as Babineaux clearly has comic timing for his straight-man routine. Robert Buckly could have been saddled with an unlikeable and generic character in Lilywhite. Rahul Kohli brought an extra flavour to his role with his British sarcasm. (I'm British too) David Anders made for a great protagonist who, as dislikeable as he was, had a charm to him. Last but not least, Rose McIver did a fantastic job with the character she took on the various personalities, it was so much fun.
I’d love to see you take on House MD as a retrospective. The character is so fascinating and well performed but there’s so much filler… boring characters like Forman and compelling characters like Thirteen who never completes her arc. Endless procedure
@@HurricaneDDragon I found that his revolves around the episode ‘Broken’ wayyy too much. It’s a fantastic episode but it’s hardly reflective of what the show was. If anything it’s a one-off. Structurally I find it’s a bit all over the place too. It feels less like a series retrospective and more like a Gregory House character analysis
The good doctor is exactly this too. Every scene with Freddy Highmore is a winner, when it focuses on the rest of the cast it turns to low rent Grey's anatomy.
The first few seasons were magic. The last season was disappointingly preachy. After watching the series twice, I shared it with my 12-year old daughter last year and she was immediately hooked. She LOVED it and it was great to find something we can enjoy together. We are planning to rewatch it this summer, because season 1 especially makes the whole thing worthwhile.
Solid breakdown - I didn't dislike the rough parts as much as you did, but the supporting characters make up for so much of the weakness of the show. I'm shocked though that the songs only warranted a couple different mentions and not a footnote of it's own. I consider this show (at least the early seasons) amazingly scored and actually went out of my way to get the series discs they released (still waiting on the last two, likely in vain) just to ensure I'd have the series with the original soundtrack it was intended. To many of my other underloved series end up with their excellent songs replaced or straight up removed that I learned to jump on fast and get these copies while they're still fully entact.
the detail that always bothered me about this show was the unfinished liv and her brother storyline. like you said, they set up her getting close with him again then completely dropped it and next we see him is in season 5. but what frustrated me the most was that in s2 they filmed a storyline with him, coming to see her and respolving their issues, where she tells him she's a zombie andhe comes out as gay to her. it was SO infuriating to me as a young queer person that they filmed this whole thing, and added the first queer character that could possibly be semi-regular in the cast, and just fully dropped that. also in that episode, there is a scene where liv says "my brother is in the other room" which with everything related to him being deleted, it makes zero sense to have it there, and it's just a painful reminder of what we could've had. oh and i mean the lack of queer characters, I'm not saying every show should have them, but if you look at hannibal and crazy ex-girlfrend that you mentioned were a thing at the time, both shows had casual queer characters, so this is a them problem lmao. also a random detail i love, is the fact that both blaine and liv's actors were on once upon a time before this, and it's not uncommon for side characters in that show to come in and out with no explanation, so it wasn't weird when they weren't there (especially liv, her story was done), with blaine's actor he had the bleached hair for izombie and it was just funny when they randomly brought him back and were like what's with the hair lmao
They did what?! Aw man I had no idea, dammit that could've been really cool. I love the first season of this show to absolute death but whenever I reccomend it it's the only season I can reccomend without caveats, and stuff like this is why. It was all filmed too, that's such a waste...
I dunno about the rest of this, but that "my brother is in the other room" thing in the aired episode is a lie. Explicitly. It's in the episode where she has the brain of a compulsive liar even so you can't miss that fact unless you're being disingenuous and doing it on purpose.
iZombie will eternally be a favorite show. I've seen it like ten times and I know I'll rewatch it again. Its comforting but still exciting, quirky without being annoying, and such a unique take on zombie mythology and a police procedural. Love the entire cast, and although I prefer the first three seasons with the more urban fantasy masquerade in effect, the more True Blood-ish everyone knows about zombie seasons are still really enjoyable and interesting, and level up Peyton as a character in fun ways too. Whenever I see this cast on social media or in other projects it puts a huge smile on my face.
59:02 this should not have made me crack up as much as it did but the way it’s like oh yea this news channel is filming and they’re like murder on air is fine if we just point the camera up for a quick sec
i had thought i never finished watching this show... but watching this vid it came back to me that i did finish it, i was just so underwhelmed by the ending that i forgot about it
I really loved the season 2 finale! 2 seasons worth of build up, the tension of the show being about keeping the zombies fed to avoid apocalypse, really sets the tone for the Max Rager outbreak being what it should be: fucking terrifying. Once it went full Dead Rising, I honestly felt the dread. It was everything they were trying to avoid
Ok, ok, ok. This comment has nothing to do with iZombie, I watched 3 episodes and couldn't take it, which I should have known because I don't like zombie stuff but I digress. I came here to say that you are the man! The Breaking Bad Retrospective popped up in my recommendations and because it was about Breaking Bad I watched, duh. Now of course I've heard every kind of critique there is on the show but what I hadn't heard was one done by you. It was insightful, thoughtful, blah, blah, blah and blah. What I really loved is that you had me in tears with laughter. Your sick and snide attitude about the show and the people that view it, had me rotflmao. The way you went after the audience for not finding devastating death and destruction bad enough was classic. For certain show you are now my go to commentator. Congratulations.
For a couple years, iZombie was my favorite show on TV. Not necessarily the BEST, but, favorite. Yeah, season 5 is a step or 2 down from the rest of the series. But the rest of the series was on such a high step, I still think the final season is "okay". Just by comparison, the rest of the series is "good" to "great", so okay seems like a let down, even though theres a plethora of series out there who would be overjoyed with an okay final season.
I liked the OK ending of it. They didn’t knew they would get cancelled and pushed a little finale together. Better than Netflix shows who nearly all let u down lol
such great content and for someone who can put out long form videos so quickly. also, you cant call out most played segment of video, with a 1 second text promt that it took me 3 replays toeven read lmao. sneaky, but i got resepct.
I feel like Ravi's moping in s3 was more due to it being Blaine getting the girl than himself not getting it. Like, yeah that was part of it, but Blaine being the other guy is probably what caused the majority of the problem.
Man Logan Echolls just really went off the deep end after high school. And Veronica's dad chasing him all the way to Seattle just to work for the police department there? Incredible.
It's still a crime that Liv never ate the brains of a tourist from New Zealand so Rose could do an episode without using her American accent.
Not a brain, but she actually does go undercover using a New Zealand accent in the episode “My Really Fair Lady”
The ending was anti-climatic in my opinion, i was kinda disappointed
Despite doing well for a while due to a ready supply of brains iZombie eventually succumbed to its condition, being a CW show
CW shows are fine. There are way, way worse shows out there.
@@filiperoque1801 CW shows start fine or even good but then slowly or rapidly decline season after season. There being worse shows out there doesn’t really mean much
@@notserious6458 That makes Legends of Tomorrow the Anti-CW CW show as that started okay at best and ended with one of the stronger seasons that show had.
@@filiperoque1801 Ill never understand why people settle for fine when there's actually good content out there.
@@mrcroob8563 Because when I mean fine, I'm not saying CW shows are just mediocre shows, just that they are better than their trashy reputation. If you want "good" shows, the CW definitely has some: Supernatural, The 100, Nikita, The Originals, Smallville, Superman & Lois, iZombie, Stargirl and Legends of Tomorrow are all pretty good watches. Arrow and The Vampire Diaries have a couple rough seasons, but are still more good than bad. Riverdale is pretty great if you know what you're getting into. Plus there's some comedy shows like Jane the Virgin, Reaper and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend that are well regarded too. (I don't watch comedies, so I can't really say much about them).
Found it kind of funny Liv’s boyfriends died each season. Like we knew that Major was the one for her but come on, did you have to kill the competition?
tropes say kill their character to break them up for endgame ship, izombie heard kill *the* character 😂
ya the CWness sort of crept in here, and it made Major and especially Liv unlikable because of the speed at which they just flip flop and go from madly in love to i have a secret boyfriend/girlfriend. I get its a CW show and everyone needs to kiss everyone because that's how these shows work but when you show a long term committed relationship like what major and liv have, and then do this sorta stuff, i do not believe they are meant for eachother, and i don't really think Liv should be in any committed relationship.
@@SaiShiroKuro I just hated that Major and Liv were perfect for each other, but the show just kept delaying, breaking them apart and all that. It didn't make these characters unlikable, but it was super annoying and it ruined so much stuff...
@@retroshark8 i think some of it definitely made me view liv in a bad light, specifically in season 2 when major and liv break it off, and then there isn't even a full episode before Liv finds a new zombie boyfriend that she also actively feels bad enough about to hide it from major. definitely undermines the narrative that these two characters should end up together.
@@SaiShiroKuro It's a shame since otherwise this show (at least in my opinion) has great writing.
I also noticed a similar thing with many other shows... WHY??!!!
Instead of making a show with obvious, but good romance, they just don't (I'm probably that mad because romance is my favorite genre.) Few examples of that would be: "Buffy the vampire slayer", "vampire diaries"... "Lucifer" at first glance is also that way, but I believe that it isn't...
Why???!!!
I always thought Blaine's final demise--being pushed down a well to go feral and be forgotten--was a sort of fitting end to him. All series he's always acted as an untouchable big shot, and what better punishment for someone like that than an ending devoid of dignity? No blaze of glory, no stare down with the hero dealing a finishing blow with final words....Just pushed from behind by his right hand underling. The fact that it mirrors the death he'd planned for his father just makes it better.
Exactly, the fact that it's anticlimactic is perfect, it's exactly his fate
I didn’t think Don E deserved to end up in the well with him 😢 he was such a fun character I wanted a better end for him
@@Mindcrow the meat cute child murdere was before don e joined the cast in 2 I’m sure he would’ve been complicit in it
Yea like it was so anticlimactic that it was super satisfying like you said. Just left to rot.
@@elchegiannone Literally rot.
I loved Clive in this series, he got even better after he learned about Zombies. And the way they foreshadowed him being okay with things was hilariously done with D&D.
Seeing the main characters playing D&D, (in particular Peyton.) was really cute.
CLIVE IS SOOO UNDERRATED OMG I LOVE HIM
His reactions to Liv‘s characters she got from the brains were so much better after he learned the truth lol
@@GLBizzie I deffo need to rewatch iZombie.
iZombie is such a hidden gem of a show. Had it's own style and so many great characters. Major is a great example. On paper and by description alone, he seems like an absolute joke, but over time, he became one of my favorites because the characters in this show actually have arcs and change over time. But the show remains fun and campy pretty much the whole time until the very end.
IZombie series 1 and about half of 2 is one of my favourite shows ever. Smart, punchy, well written, great characters, puppy and fun - really great. I reccomended it to a lot of people.
The last season and the one before it may be my least favourite show ever made. I have never both loved and hated a show so much. By the time we got to people smuggling, her execution and her transformations from eating being so incredibly over the top in a way they never were before, I just hated it and was watching to see how much worse it could get. And to my shock they always managed to do it.
@@medes5597 Ya my wife and i were watching it together and dropped off quickly in season 2. it just goes from an interesting concept a show to a really formulaic show where you know the needle is never going to advance until the grand finale of the show.
I like iZombie at the start. I just hate the romantic relationships Liv and Major goes through. Like I know they want these two to end up with each other but give it actual development than excuses for them to break up and then get back together. I honestly feel like Liv has better compatibility with everyone else but Major.
Right? Early on, I was worried that Major was going to be Duncan Kane 2.0 and just the most boring, pointless requisite love interest dude. But it was set it up like that to the point even his name even being *Major Lilywhite* seems like an on the nose pun... then the season 1 arc happens and how it ends just blew me away. And it kept going from there.
@@Dragonatrix I felt the same
love how we brushed over that "Sir, they hit the tower" shot. Like, "sir, they zombified Seattle"
Which episode?
literally every time i remember they made a 9/11 reference i lose it it's so funny
omg, i'm not american and i completely missed that. what episode is it???
@@TheNinthGeneration1 it’s in the last few minutes of the Season 3 finale
I was young and dumb when I watched this show for the first time. 6 years and dating a polisci guy later and I clocked it immediately and promptly lost my shit
The thing about Liv's family/brother makes me so mad because there are these great deleted scenes from season 2 where Liv tells her brother the truth about her, and he comes out as gay to her, and they're really heartfelt and sweet and actually provid closure on that arc, but instead they're like, nah her family thinks she's awful and she doesn't talk to them for three years! Infuriating.
YES!! exactly!
Then only get in contact when it benefits them, not so much as a “sorry, we didn’t know” 😒
That iZombie having such a lacklustre ending in order for a season of Veronica Mars that killed Logan Echolls OFFSCREEN to be priortised is akin to the writer's strike cutting Pushing Daisies short in crimes against whimsical, camp TV shows, that have a unique way of finding out info from murder victims. Why must this super niche genre be so unlucky. To this day Pearl Jam's 'Just Breathe' makes me cry.
RIGHT?! I loved Veronica Mars and no fan of the show deserved how that season ended
or the NBC cop show Life getting canned so Jay Leno could return to late night taking the 10 PM time slot that it and 4 other shows had (one for each week night). Never forget 5 shows got cancelled to play to Jay Leno's vanity.
Ohhh!!!! “Pushing Daisy’s” is still one of those “if only it had all worked out it would’ve been AMAZING” campy, funny, with a great cast…❤
@@DanielRichards644Life Season 1 was perfect and the ending. But season 2 felt already like bullshit
@@ThestuffthatSaralikes I'll never give hope until one of the cast passes away. Hugh Dancy and Mads Mikkelsen were only talking last week of a 'Hannibal' revival. Bryan Fuller never says die, he says "the facts were these."
I love how violent this show was in comparison to other CW shows. It actually showed the gruesomeness of zombies.
Didnt even know it was a cw show untill now because it obviously wasnt on cw channel in my country. Most CW shows seem riddled with plotholes and romances that go nowhere and im glad they didnt fall into those too many times in this show.
57:58 one thing i loved about Brother Love is how they made many of his teachings direct quotes from when we saw Blaine "visit" his dad in the well. Like what he says here about having them by their "short and curlies" or what becomes a sort of catch phrase for his newfound religiosity "god loves you. He means it" because Blaine would always leave his dad with "love you, mean it" (sarcastically i might add) while his dad was slowly losing his mind down in the well. So Blaine's dad thought Blaine's voice was the voice of god the whole time 😂
Just goes to show what excellent writing this show was capable of.
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Honestly, I think that was my favourite part of the whole show, that brother love quoted blaine as god lol
... damn never noticed that
Robert Kneppler is always fantastic in everything he appears in so this at least was a guaranteed slam dunk
Another full series retrospective I will watch in its entirety, despite never having seen the show.
Yes.
You should watch. It’s a pretty fun show
Yes
Nah literally stopped watching a video going into a deep dive over a movie I actually watched to see this, a show I not once stopped to see a single episode of.
fr I just enjoy a good video essay, even if I know nothing about the subject. and slipmaker’s are so high quality !
The 3 frame message about how the dominatrix clip being the most replayed moment of the video made me rewatch it like 5 times to catch it. The self fulfilling prophecy is back.
There was a message on that scene?
38:59 bottom left of the screen "Five bucks says this winds up the "Most Replayed" part of the video"
Woah dude, this show rarely gets talked about so I'm really excited to watch.
It's simply a charming and funny show. I really appreciate how they aren't afraid to break the status quo, especially in the later seasons. The characters are probably what carries it the most though, they're just all so damn likable. I think Major is one of the most unique characters I've ever seen. Sure there's stupid plot contrivances but at the end of day it's good fun, with some emotional beats that actually hit.
The theme song is a banger too.
🎶I am
Already deeeeaad!🎶
This is exactly how I felt about it. The formula change and mixup of the status quo kept it good for me personally. Yes the romances could be annoying and the ending was written in a rushed state with the time skip but overall it's one of my favorite shows
I loved this show, I remember watching this and Lucifer kinda side by side with an at-the-time partner and I agree some of the cases were kinda weak at times but the times where Liv goes off the rails from the brains was always fun to watch
Side note: I love all the silly pun names in this show Live Moore, Meat Cute, Fillmore Graves, so good
I am now just noticing Fillmore Graves
wait it is meat CUTE? I always heared out Meat Cube
@@KaliqueClawthorne it's 'cute' like the trope
At least I'm pretty sure
@@Anonymousebean That's how I Always understood it.
Maybe because of the German Synchronisation. We have very good voice actors but Sometimes that means some english words Sound different
don't forget about the Amazon stand-in, YouFreightEze (Euphrates) and its CEO, Ty Griss 😂 I just know they were cracking themselves up in the writers room
I found this show by accident. Watched it BECAUSE the title seemed dumb. And fell in love. Thank you for reviewing!
Same lmao, now I've rewatched it like 5+ times
Same
@@Mel0nMelsame
"the guy who voices the announcer in Ratchet: Deadlocked??"
That's Cosmo from _Fairly OddParents,_ man! He was also the janitor in Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide
And the mantiance guy in big time rush!
And Veronica Mars' barely not sleazy lawyer.
The actual best part about izombie is that if your relatives only ever watch NCIS, Criminal Minds, CSI, Blue Bloods, etc... it's something relatively tolerable you can get them to put on
I will never forget the feeling of watching the Meat Cute massacre scene for the first time.
When I found out the lead actress was a power ranger in one of the better PR seasons I was instantly into this show. Sadly it kinda slipped my mind after a while.
Between her and Eka Darville showing up in Jessica Jones, we only need one more to show up for the hat trick of RPM Rangers showing up in Comic Book Crime Dramas.
@@samwill7259 are you thinking of Erin moriarty?! Izombie girl wasn’t in JJ as far as I can remember
@@-MrFozzy- Eka Darville, the RPM Red Ranger, my friend.
Also, did not realize Rose McIver was the lead in the Christmas Prince movies, which I feel dumb about now. I've watched all those movies AND iZombie.
Didn’t the girl that played tenaya become the lead on reign?
Loved this show and Ravi was defo my favourite
He was the best!
Same!
I'm so so happy the actor has gone on to be a regular in Mike Flanagan shows (Bly Manor, etc)
@@kells4315 yesss me too!
Can we all just applaud Rose McIver's work on this series? Having to play a diverse range of characteristics as Liv while remaining the same core character is NOT an easy task for an actor. It's fantastic to see where she went in her Career after starting out as a Guest child actor on "Hercules the legendary Journeys", but would've been most known before iZombie for her Tenure on "Power Rangers RPM".
...yes, Seriously. For those who've not seen, RPM's one of the REALLY good ones of that franchise, and probably the LAST good one ever made.
100% agree
I always thought that actress from orphan black was the best with all the clones she played but Rose from iZombie beat her to it. So many different characters and she made them all work and that in a hilarious and sometimes serious way. Gosh she deserves so much more recognition
Im sure Ravi is everyone's favourite, hes mine too, but I love Clive's all seriousness-no bull persona, it makes it funnier when he gets into Liv and Ravi's shenanigans, like the D&D episode. Also im a sucker for the "new guy in town doesnt fit in, ends up making BFFs trope".
I LOVED Ravi and always thought he’d make a great show all by himself…
My favorite has always been Blaine! He got damaged and kinda destroyed by his own father and just became evil to stick it to him. I won’t apologize what he did but he did tried to redeem himself with his amnesia until Don E interfered with it lol Don E & Blaine were so hilarious together
My sister would be scandalized that this review never mentions Minor. When Minor was put on a bus, we never recovered.
I was like "who is Minor" and then I remembered the dog. lol
@@Stargazer_Leysame LOL
poor baby deserved so much better
This is honestly one of the few CW shows that I think holds up mostly well years later only things but really irked me is the ending but with what they had to work with and the limited time they had to make it happen I completely understand I also hate that seasons four and five were never released on DVD
Well at least 1-3 are the golden plotlines and 4-5 feel more like filler stuff still fun but clearly they ran out of material.
Agreed
@@Jebu911Season 1-3 was peak ❤️ 4-5 the rushed era but still fun
@@GLBizzie Yeah they totally run outta good plotlines after 3rd season its still fun but its nothing like it was in its peak.
I like to believe Howard Hamlin underwent zombification when his body was put under the meth lab, and took the name Blaine Debeers over the events of Breaking bad in the background, and several years later the zombie outbreak happens starting the events of The Walking Dead.
It just makes too much sense if you never watched any of these shows.
I just got done watching Better Call Saul and this makes sense to me. Howard reminded me so much of well put together, human version of Blaine every time he was on screen...the actors even kinda sound similar. 🤣
I choose to believe your entirely correct. That's my new Canon. 🤣
god dammit now i see the resemblance 😭
I recently rewatched iZombie and there's an episode where one of Liv and Peyton's sorority sisters is drugged and killed while skydiving...her name was Holly White. I immediately thought of this comment. 🤣
Did I expect this series from you? Nope!
Did i scream “oh my god” in excitement and immediately click? YUP!
iZombie season 1 was an absolute masterpiece. I loved this show and even my dad a very picky SciFi geek fell in love with it too. We watched the first season together religiously.
I would actually love to know if anyone ever watched both iZombie and Santa Clarita Diet. SCD came a few years after iZombie and even though it got canceled, it had a lot of the same fun energy and zombie shenanigans. Drew Barrymore plays the zombie and she is so likable and so goddamn funny as a Californian realtor turned zombie trying to be a mom and figure out what happened to her
These are my two comfort shows
Man I forgot about Santa Clarita Diet! I really liked that show
Watched it after my second izombie rewatch.
two of my most fav shows SCD literally my favorite ever
I love both those shows. iZombie I think has such a strong first season that nothing after really captures the magic again, but SCD felt like it only got better with time, and I'm eternally sad it got canned.
Abbey in that show is also my headcanon favourite representation of someone with ASPD. Absolutely no guilt, totally unphased by all the madness around her, constant risk-taking behaviour, but still with the capacity to care for the people close to her and a sense of morality, because those things don't just go away if you have a decent upbringing. There's an entire arc there that she never *quite* got where she's troubled by the fact she explicitly DOESN'T feel bad about killing a couple people.
iZombie is definitely a underrated show. Yeah I wasn't perfect but it has its moments.
well imdb has it at 7.8 which i think is pretty fair. It has highs and lows on every season more highs on early seasons tho.
I remember actually busting out in laughter when I realized she's a zombie named Liv
Not just Liv,
Liv Moore!
Be prepared to bust some more. All the names. Major Lilywhite. Philmore Graves. Chase Graves. Redd Harrington. Eva More, Evan More. General Mills and Chakra Body (Ravi). This is just from this video. I remember rolling my eyes each episode to a rando name with double meanings.
@@bjwimer I never understood the major lilywhite thing. I just thought his name was weird but i guess it means majorly naive. Which doesnt really fit his character as he is very inquisitive but i guess thats the joke or the fact they could later call him major major for that one scene.
@@bjwimer If you love the punny names in this show, then may I suggest the TV show GRIMM. In one episode there's a deeply religious woman with the name JOAN VARK. (I SHIT YOU NOT.)
Major's my favorite character. Looked like a golden retriever at first, Major wastes no time doing some of the most insane things. Like hopping in a murderer's trunk in order to follow them around
Ooh this should be fun.
One thing I have to say with this show, I love Major's story arc in the first season. The show isn't afraid to reveal things to its characters pretty quick which is nice for a show like this.
EDIT: FUCK YES IT'S AWESOME
What I love most is how both Scratching and curing people in this show is like instantaneous.
Like the body just knows "oh I got a scratch.. guess im a zombie now." like within a second.
Finally someone giving izombie the appreciation it deserves!! Man, Major’s character descent is always so interesting to watch
I looked forward to this show every week. It’s one of my favorite shows and not enough people know about it.
Even when the writing was subpar in the later seasons, the actors carried the show. They all have such great chemistry
I completely agree. After watching the first two seasons, I was so invested in the characters, that the flaws of the later seasons didn't really bother me. And that is thanks to the core cast. The cast had such amazing chemistry and charm. One of the best casts of any show, in my opinion.
Even with its flaws, iZombie is one of my favorite series. One of the highlights for me was the Rob Thomas... no, that one. at the end of s2, especially since I didn't know of the show runner/producer one, so I genuinely thought Matchbox 20 was not only the artist for the opening song (they're not) but dude had branched out.
I used to love this series so so much. I binge watched it with my mum and I specifically remember when Clive was running from the zombie after the outbreak in that one party and me and my mum were screaming and jumping so bad that she hit me in the face and gave me a nose bleed. Even if it is cheesy, it still holds a special place for me.
I got into it because I was a big Once Upon a Time fan at the time and Rose Mclver and David Anders were on that show as Tinker Bell and Dr. Frankenstein, so the fandom would bring up this show once in a awhile. I'm so glad it did because i fell in love with this show!!
Holy shit, Rose McIver as Tinker Bell is perfect casting
I always used to explain iZombie to people as "Buffy but with Zombies" - an analogy that works (sort of). Love this show!
Such a great show, wished it had a bit better ending though.
screaming rn your series retrospectives happen to hit a sweet spot of shows i cycle through obsessions
Finally! Finallllyyy. A full long form video on Izombie. The universe is at peaceeee
I remember how much I loved the Rob Thomas playing at the corporate party. Also Rahul Kohli is the best! Great video mate!
Oh man I loooooved this show! Around the time that Major started working for Fillmore Graves, it just lost its appeal. As much as i tried to muddle through another episode, I just couldn't, no matter how much I had loved it before.
Very good run down, glad I finally know what happened.
Kind of the same for me. I still watched it but I stopped when Seattle became a Zombie-city. I just .... can't watch this anymore.
It was always kind of nice that Liz had to hide and lie to the public about the effects the brains had on her and that it was just ... normal.
Yeah. Like, season 2 was tolerable, it definitely had it's moments, but it started to get a bit less of it's own identity and the brain changes stopped being 'Liv gets a quirk from someone' and became more 'Liv's personality gets altered', which while it makes sense in the story (Liv deliberately doesn't fight the influence to get more/better visions), it was less entertaining to watch. Zombies being a freak accident because of a bad batch of drugs and a corrupt energy company is fun, making them generic Evil Corp who wants supersoldiers less so. Then the city got zombified and it became a whole different show.
@@KaliqueClawthorneSeason 3 should be watched completely. It’s so good. Season 4 and 5 were the ones meh
So glad you made a video about this hidden gem, I can't believe I wasn't subscribed to you before now.
Man this show was seriously hurting for some more coverage on in general, way too underrated
This was a show i saw the commercial for and thought it was gonna be terrible. I gave it a go out of curiosity and fell in love with the show.
Honestly when it was first airing, the first few seasons were my favorite show on tv at the time
i honestly think the most replayed part of the video is mostly replayed just to see what you wrote in the corner XD because i had to rewind to see what it was. A self fulfilling prophecy!!
I'd like to see retrospectives on Lucifer, The Expanse, and Agents of Shield in the future. Lucifer for it's great characters and compelling story arcs, The Expanse for a look at a book to show adaptation that's done well even if the show didn't finish the book series, and Agents of Shield for being a slice of MCU TV Pre-Disney+ that's well worth watching once it gets going.
Season 5 didn't go into the season knowing it was the final season. It was meant to end on the cliff hanger of the Morgue bombing. The final epilogue episode was tacked on in the final hour when they got the news it wasn't being renewed for another season.
That makes sense. That’s probably why Debby Durkin survived. They probably wanted to use her as the big bad of season 6.
I had to pause because this really sounds right up my alley, but I'll come back.
After watching the pilot: I was right, I'm in love. I really love Psych and Hannibal, it also reminds me of Warm Bodies and Dead Like Me. Thanks for introducing me to so many new shows ❤️
I haven't seen anyone talk about this show so thanks for covering the show!
I loved this show. The first season is actually quite amazing and I enjoyed season two a lot as well. I felt a bit iffy about season three but it was a fun run so I finished it. Never did check out the remaining two seasons so it'll be fun to see whatever happened and how it all ended. The only thing I know is that Blaine ends up in that well.
This show left my memory as soon as i finished watching season 1 back in like 2015, it's so wild to suddenly encounter a video essay about it.
It's interesting seeing someone actually talk about this show because I never see it brought up really.
All I know about it is that my parents worked on some stuff for it lmao
I got the first few seasons on dvd as a tween for Christmas and loved how campy the show was. An absolute favourite of mine
OK more intelligent comment. Making it early so you might mention this in the video. I loved the detail of the zombies getting all red-eyed crazy when they get a huge adrenaline shot. Throughout season one you see Blaine in situations that really ought to get him into that state. He murders constantly. Lowell stabs him out of nowhere. But he never, never gets those glowing red eyes of genuine passion until he's taunting Liv at the end of the season. Blaine is a true-strain psychopath.
the First 2 seasons were SO good ngl
Do Veronica Mars next!! So we can all come together and rant about how much we all hated the ending and how Rob Thomas ruined the entire franchise with a single choice.
Agreed 💯
Super late to the party, but I was on a camping trip with barely any service when they dropped the season early. I came back to civilization just to have my heart shattered in a million pieces which made it impossible until last year to rewatch the first 3 seasons (season 4 just does not exist to me). As meh as the finale of izombie is, I'm glad they all got their happy endings instead of claiming they were more interesting as damaged people.
My mom and I would watch this together and I'm super glad to see someone else who thinks it's really good! I feel like I never see anyone talking about iZombie!
Now this is my jam. Mike Allred is a fantastic comic creator and artist, otherwise I wouldn't have given this show a chance.
Kudos on your scripting for this video, dude! I genuinely lol'd throughout. Very compelling retelling of a show I never watched but now feel like I have
Fantastic video! And I definitely agree with them dropping the ball in the last season.
What i love about the first seasons of the show is that every character thinks their in a completely different genre of show
Another quality video. Your insights are well expressed and frankly, educational, especially for anyone looking to get better at writing good TV. I look forward to these now. Especially after consuming most of your retrospectives. When the rest of the world finds you, they'll be in for a thick and juicy treat.
That season 1 finale with Major coming in guns blazing was pretty damn badass.
I said this when you announced you were doing iZombie. I read the premise and thought it sounded cheesy as F, sometimes I avoid series' that I don't think I'll find enjoyable. I watched the first episode for the sole purpose of being able to legitimately say how shit it was but I instantly fell in love with it. I don't even call it a guilty pleasure because I don't feel guilty about it. I know you have pointed out some legitimate issues but I enjoyed every second of it. I love the characters and the chemistry they have. For a comedy show, I also felt the arc for each season was acceptable, if it became overly complex then it would have taken away from the comedy. Malcolm Goodwin as Babineaux clearly has comic timing for his straight-man routine. Robert Buckly could have been saddled with an unlikeable and generic character in Lilywhite. Rahul Kohli brought an extra flavour to his role with his British sarcasm. (I'm British too) David Anders made for a great protagonist who, as dislikeable as he was, had a charm to him. Last but not least, Rose McIver did a fantastic job with the character she took on the various personalities, it was so much fun.
I loved this series sm all the main characters were just so likeable!! Lmao I love Ravi and I loved how invested Clive got into D&D 😂😂
I love this show so much, definitely up there as one of my all time favourites
I’d love to see you take on House MD as a retrospective. The character is so fascinating and well performed but there’s so much filler… boring characters like Forman and compelling characters like Thirteen who never completes her arc. Endless procedure
Oh, I second this!
@@Chocolatepain Have you seen the House MD 6 part retrospective on UA-cam?
Jesse Tribble already did that excellently.
@@HurricaneDDragon I found that his revolves around the episode ‘Broken’ wayyy too much. It’s a fantastic episode but it’s hardly reflective of what the show was. If anything it’s a one-off. Structurally I find it’s a bit all over the place too. It feels less like a series retrospective and more like a Gregory House character analysis
The good doctor is exactly this too. Every scene with Freddy Highmore is a winner, when it focuses on the rest of the cast it turns to low rent Grey's anatomy.
iZombie was fantastic! Glad it gets some praise from time to time
Love your channel dude! You should review Bones! It's such a great show that's been mostly forgotten
The first few seasons were magic. The last season was disappointingly preachy.
After watching the series twice, I shared it with my 12-year old daughter last year and she was immediately hooked. She LOVED it and it was great to find something we can enjoy together. We are planning to rewatch it this summer, because season 1 especially makes the whole thing worthwhile.
I love seeing your reteospectives on these. I am gleefully awaiting both Peaky Blinders and Archer. I feel Archer would be a funny one
Never seen the show. But I’ll watch the retrospectives. Big up Slip maker.
One of the reasons why I checked out this show was because I found out that Liv's actress was Summer in Power Rangers RPM
Solid breakdown - I didn't dislike the rough parts as much as you did, but the supporting characters make up for so much of the weakness of the show. I'm shocked though that the songs only warranted a couple different mentions and not a footnote of it's own. I consider this show (at least the early seasons) amazingly scored and actually went out of my way to get the series discs they released (still waiting on the last two, likely in vain) just to ensure I'd have the series with the original soundtrack it was intended. To many of my other underloved series end up with their excellent songs replaced or straight up removed that I learned to jump on fast and get these copies while they're still fully entact.
the detail that always bothered me about this show was the unfinished liv and her brother storyline. like you said, they set up her getting close with him again then completely dropped it and next we see him is in season 5. but what frustrated me the most was that in s2 they filmed a storyline with him, coming to see her and respolving their issues, where she tells him she's a zombie andhe comes out as gay to her. it was SO infuriating to me as a young queer person that they filmed this whole thing, and added the first queer character that could possibly be semi-regular in the cast, and just fully dropped that. also in that episode, there is a scene where liv says "my brother is in the other room" which with everything related to him being deleted, it makes zero sense to have it there, and it's just a painful reminder of what we could've had. oh and i mean the lack of queer characters, I'm not saying every show should have them, but if you look at hannibal and crazy ex-girlfrend that you mentioned were a thing at the time, both shows had casual queer characters, so this is a them problem lmao.
also a random detail i love, is the fact that both blaine and liv's actors were on once upon a time before this, and it's not uncommon for side characters in that show to come in and out with no explanation, so it wasn't weird when they weren't there (especially liv, her story was done), with blaine's actor he had the bleached hair for izombie and it was just funny when they randomly brought him back and were like what's with the hair lmao
Ah geez, time to moan about the lgbqtpiasfebwocbrj+ representation again
@Kadaver Komplex exactly. They are like vegans. They gotta remind you who they are and how upset more people aren't it. Disgusting.
@@ransacked Hope you die mad about it 👍
They did what?! Aw man I had no idea, dammit that could've been really cool. I love the first season of this show to absolute death but whenever I reccomend it it's the only season I can reccomend without caveats, and stuff like this is why. It was all filmed too, that's such a waste...
I dunno about the rest of this, but that "my brother is in the other room" thing in the aired episode is a lie. Explicitly. It's in the episode where she has the brain of a compulsive liar even so you can't miss that fact unless you're being disingenuous and doing it on purpose.
god i love a good ds9 reference halfway through a video essay on my favourite shows as a teen
iZombie will eternally be a favorite show. I've seen it like ten times and I know I'll rewatch it again. Its comforting but still exciting, quirky without being annoying, and such a unique take on zombie mythology and a police procedural. Love the entire cast, and although I prefer the first three seasons with the more urban fantasy masquerade in effect, the more True Blood-ish everyone knows about zombie seasons are still really enjoyable and interesting, and level up Peyton as a character in fun ways too. Whenever I see this cast on social media or in other projects it puts a huge smile on my face.
Yeah Rahul Kohli was the best guy on twitter when he was still on twitter.
59:02 this should not have made me crack up as much as it did but the way it’s like oh yea this news channel is filming and they’re like murder on air is fine if we just point the camera up for a quick sec
the spike in replays at 10:57 has me rolling
Many people talking about how Blaine was apparently in Once Upon a Time, very few people talking about how Blaine was Hiro's Hero in "Heroes".
the "spinal tap drummer" joke was also made in Buffy, a show that feels very thematically similar to this one.
i had thought i never finished watching this show... but watching this vid it came back to me that i did finish it, i was just so underwhelmed by the ending that i forgot about it
Aww snap, new Slip Maker just dropped! Im hoping LOST makes it on your list sometime this year I’d love to hear your take on that series
ok first of all. this is a great video. second of all, the Urinetown reference was CRAZY ☠️☠️
I really loved the season 2 finale! 2 seasons worth of build up, the tension of the show being about keeping the zombies fed to avoid apocalypse, really sets the tone for the Max Rager outbreak being what it should be: fucking terrifying. Once it went full Dead Rising, I honestly felt the dread. It was everything they were trying to avoid
Ok, ok, ok. This comment has nothing to do with iZombie, I watched 3 episodes and couldn't take it, which I should have known because I don't like zombie stuff but I digress. I came here to say that you are the man! The Breaking Bad Retrospective popped up in my recommendations and because it was about Breaking Bad I watched, duh. Now of course I've heard every kind of critique there is on the show but what I hadn't heard was one done by you. It was insightful, thoughtful, blah, blah, blah and blah. What I really loved is that you had me in tears with laughter. Your sick and snide attitude about the show and the people that view it, had me rotflmao. The way you went after the audience for not finding devastating death and destruction bad enough was classic. For certain show you are now my go to commentator. Congratulations.
For a couple years, iZombie was my favorite show on TV. Not necessarily the BEST, but, favorite. Yeah, season 5 is a step or 2 down from the rest of the series. But the rest of the series was on such a high step, I still think the final season is "okay". Just by comparison, the rest of the series is "good" to "great", so okay seems like a let down, even though theres a plethora of series out there who would be overjoyed with an okay final season.
I liked the OK ending of it. They didn’t knew they would get cancelled and pushed a little finale together. Better than Netflix shows who nearly all let u down lol
I absolutely adored this show.
such great content and for someone who can put out long form videos so quickly. also, you cant call out most played segment of video, with a 1 second text promt that it took me 3 replays toeven read lmao. sneaky, but i got resepct.
I feel like Ravi's moping in s3 was more due to it being Blaine getting the girl than himself not getting it. Like, yeah that was part of it, but Blaine being the other guy is probably what caused the majority of the problem.
Yeah it makes sense, he's not misogynistic enough to be like "I deserve her" but he is knocked by being passed over for a child murderer.
Absolutely was hooked with every episode till the end 😢
Man Logan Echolls just really went off the deep end after high school. And Veronica's dad chasing him all the way to Seattle just to work for the police department there? Incredible.
Babe wake up, theres another series retrospect on a show Ive never watched. Time to watch it three times in a row
I love this show and wanted to rewatch it.
Idk if it’s mentioned but at 31:01 the name Fillmore graves made me chuckle