Community: Full Series Retrospective
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00:00 Intro
01:35 Season 1
11:15 Season 2
18:43 Season 3
28:04 Season 4
38:31 Season 5
48:08 Season 6
Community was a sitcom that aired on both NBC and Yahoo Screen from September 17, 2009 to June 2, 2015. The series follows the adventures of amoral lawyer Jeff Winger, who attends Greendale Community College to replace his fake bachelor's degree.
Created by Dan Harmon. Starring Joel McHale as Jeff Winger, Gillian Jacobs as Britta Perry, Danny Pudi as Abed Nadir, Yvette Nicole Brown as Shirley Bennett, Alison Brie as Annie Edison, Donald Glover as Troy Barnes, Ken Jeong as Benjamin Franklin Chang, Chevy Chase as Pierce Hawthrone, Jim Rash as Dean Craig Pelton, John Oliver as Professor Ian Duncan, Jonathan Banks as Professor Buzz Hickey, Paget Brewster as Frankie Dart, Keith David as Elroy Patashnik, Dino Stamatopoulos as Alex "Starburns" Osbourne, Richard Erdman as Leonard Rodriguez, Charley Koontz as Neil and Luke Youngblood as Magnitude.
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I thought I was hallucinating for a moment
I thought I was experiencing a different timeline for a moment. Oh shit did troy go get the pizza?!?
XD glad I saw this, I was tripping for a sec.
Really glad I wasn’t high when I started watching this. Although I thought I somehow unknowingly got high cause I could have sworn I saw all this before. It’s still worth watching again though! Six seasons and a movie!!
Fucking copyright bullshit strikes again, but at least there a fair and balanced system in place for these things to get resolved. Reupload!
I knew nothing about this show before watching this so I can handle a second watch with ease. Watch Chevy Chase be a complete asshole to everyone is something I could watch him do all day. He is so damn funny doing that, holy shit man.
unpopular(?) opinion: i don’t think season 5 and 6 are that bad. they’re nothing compared to the first three seasons but i really enjoyed both those seasons a lot
Theyre not bad ! People are just dramatic over sitcoms online
I actually think they are better then season 1. Not that season 1 is bad, but the show was still trying to find itself
I wholeheartedly agree. I think what alot of people seem to fail to see is that seasons 5 and 6 are an intentional departure from the first 4. It was always going to be dubious trying to course correct from season 4, but the departures of Chevy Chase, Donald Glover, and Yvette Nicole Brown, as well as Dan Harmon's growth and influence developed from working on Rick and Morty, ensured that replicating the exact magic of the series' first half would be impossible. I think some fans just can't accept that, and so rather instead of adapting with the show, they simply stayed in place, refusing to come along on the new journey, chalking it up to the last season and a half being "bad" as opposed to "different". There are inconsistencies to be sure, but overall the final 2 seasons are solid providers of great comedy (and Grifting 101 is the show's most underappreciated episode)
@@JeremyBearimy913 I love your name and i definitely really liked season 5 & 6 even though it lacked the original cast.
Your opinion isn't that unpopular. I'm not sure I put a lot of weight on the opinion of this content creator.
Chang, I think, is unfortunately a victím of flanderization. He was a character that was obviously unhinged, but he also did other things. He danced salsa, he was lonely and tried to get new friends, he was a competent villain, and he was savvy enough to fake himself into a job teaching spanish without actually knowing the language, but as the series progressed he got shaven down to only being unhinged, which was unfortunate for the character.
agreed
I love how his first characteristic you meantion is "he danced salsa"
@@MRF-bq7kq I know right? Probably his most redeeming feature IMO
i respectfully disagree, while i definitely prefer the old chang as a character, and he indeed “hasn’t been well utilized since”, his decent into madness always felt like a gradual thing to me
I kind of agree because he said he played paintball but and in the first one he was actually a threat. In the second one he is just a joke.
Jim Rash as the dean, is absolutely brilliant in this show and doesn't get the credit he deserves.
If you love Jim Rash, you know that he made parts of Season 4 enjoyable and that he and Chang shined so bright in S5&6 that they brought those two to the height of the series for me. Truly spectacular, 'Gay Dean' indeed.
Seriously, he deserves an Oscar! Presented by Angelina Jolie preferably, plus I'd like him to do something funny while accepting it.
...dare to dream.
the Dean was always my favorite character, but the best part is they have to dress him in slightly oversized shirts to make him seem tiny, but then when he goes shirtless or in the ice cream history episode when he has the beautiful dress, suddenly he's got a surprising amount of muscle
Dean a ling!
@@OzymandiasWasRightHe has an Oscar.
Season 6 has my favourite joke in the entire show when Jeff bursts in and yells "don't hire this woman" and abed says "thank god we're right it's the 5th time he's burst into a room yelling don't hire this woman"
who was the woman?
@@Sandux930 frankie
Season 6 also has my favorite joke during the e-mail episode. Alison Brie’s delivery of “I don’t think I was jumpy enough if my friends were able to STEAL MY BLOOD!” kills me every time.
Season 6 also has my favourite line when Jason mansuka rants about how the karate kid is really about mr miagi. I die every time he says “Ralph maccio showed up”
I love the interviewer pointing out h9w strange Frankie is. Because she's the straight man to Greendales weirdness but is really strange herself when dealing with normal people.
My favorite episode is Wedding Videography. "Now this is a man who knows how to marry his cousin!" is the best punchline hands down; You have to know the entirety of a character and the episode in order to fully appreciate it. It's like, this show is special because I had to give in to it for the best bits.
Wedding Videography is one of the best episodes of the show. Which is why you gotta give season 6 some respect
That's the thing about Season 6 with me: even though the majority of the season was kinda boring to me, at least it went out with a bang with the last two episodes being some of the best and funniest in the entire series
that end bit of the showrunner taking responsibility for the incest in the episode is one of my favourite moments in any show
I wish Elory would've been there longer. Like when Chevy left in season 4. That line was hilarious!
@@michaelvessel4604 Boring? Seriously? How? It was pretty fantastic from beginning to end, in fact, I'd argue that the last episodes were so good that they just make the earlier ones seem little lacking in comparison. The epic action of the final paintball, the 'incest episode', and the heartbreaking yet coldly hilarious finale with an iconic end credit that surmised the show and the darkest aspects of it tone so incredibly wel... the last two seasons were gold.
I love season 6. It would have been much better with Troy and pierce, but Frankie and Elroy are amazing, every scene with Frankie and the dean is guaranteed to make me laugh
I loved it too, you can tell they're working on a smaller budget but they make up with good dialogue and the skits at the end of the episodes are amazing
And Jesus wept
Frankie is such a great addiction to the show
When she called him a small dumb little man I was dying lol
Specifically I think the s6 paintball episode, marriage, and finale are some of my favorite episodes of the whole show and make up for some of the other episodes throughout the season being lackluster
Glad someone finally said it about Shirley: the writers clearly did not connect with her character on any level, and the portrayal of her suffers a lot because of that. The only episode where I get the impression that at least one writer on the staff connected with her in any sort of honest or meaningful or sympathetic way was Mixology Certification, and even then, that episode barely scratches the surface.
The thing that I find most telling about the writer's priorities and attention is that every character is important and brings something unique and meaningful to the point where if they're removed, something fundamentally changes (and this is observable when Chevy Chase and Donald Glover leave even!).... except Shirley. If you remove her, the show is basically exactly the same as it is already. Such an unfortunate wasted character
If you watch the DVDs behind the scenes they talk about it
Yeah, she could be a troubled but mature , hell there could be things aout christians she could play off, and mom, single mom ... She even could in welleaning overbearing attempts show how she gts sometimes into hardmode?! And s could make chrisin jokes.
One of hers coud easy add, her antering with britta could add i dont know, did they even bother to explore?!
and with th flandrization of chang, i guess it didnt help ,
love the show but with time the writers blatantly ignoring shirley becomes more and more obvious. it’s frustrating because there was definitely more that could have been done with her character
it'S hard making a character irredeamable evil, but still focusing on her for an episode.
"Dean becomes a weird stalker in Season 4" Bro in Season 3 the Dean literally spied on Jeff's emails and showed up the exact place he knew he'd be at and blackmailed him to spend time him. And it was in one of the funniest episodes of the series
The Dean was always fucking weird with Jeff. Touching him on the shoulder, all the innuendos that he made. Unless they wanted the Dean to remain the exact same character the entire run, of course they had to alter him. He would either go completely off Jeff, or turn it up.
but him moving next to jeff was really too much imo lol
i did not mind that character development whatsoever, seriously a highlight for me LMFAO
I give season 4 more credit than most because I think it had some of the best character moments in the entire show. That being said, the fact they had such a great premise of the Dean moving in next door to Jeff.. they do next to nothing with it. That's pretty unforgivable, there's so many great dynamics you could draw from there
Think he's trying to find additional problems with S4. In reality there's 2 or 3 solid episodes (with the Dean being a consistent uptick)
the most underappreciated moment in all of Community is when Kumail Nanjiani (an arabic man) is confused for a moment when he learns that Danny Pudi (an indian man) is supposed to be arabic.
"who is heckling me? oh of course its the indian guy"
"actually im arabic"
"oh, okay, lets go with that"
its such a small moment but it always makes me laugh
Isnt kumail from pakistan ?
@@yosrafaiz9857 yes
I actually liked season 6 Elroy was so good “ now this is a man who knows how to marry his cousin!” Is one of my favorite lines
Yeah Keith David is great and has some great scenes
I think the season 6 episodes weren't as good, but still had some of the best jokes of any of the seasons. JESUS WEPT
Community was truly special. The fried chicken episode really stood out to me as WOW THIS IS UNIQUE. I felt later seasons didn't deserve the amount of criticism they got. That said, felt like Britta really collapsed as a character more than anyone from s3 onwards. I'll never get tired of rewatching it
britta season 1 was too cringy for me
I read your third sentence as " I felt later seasons didn't deserve the amount of chicken they got" and I was really confused.
She's actually really strong in s4, and they seem to right her character back to the annoyingly helpful, good person she was meant to be initially. It seems like Harmon was incredibly bitter about anything and everything from season 4(other than Brie Larson apparently), and almost went out of his way to re-sabatoge Britta's character as much as possible. She goes from helping Jeff reconnect with his father in season 4, to literally shitting her pants while drunk in season 6.
I feel like the loss of Troy hurts Community a lot more in subtle ways than people think. At least to me, he came across as the heart of the show, and seasons 5 and 6 after his departure were like the heart of the whole thing was ripped out.
True, although I feel season 6 leaned into that heartlessness more which was why I likes it so much.
People say that "troy as heart" thing a lot, and I've never gotten why. Maybe I'm cynical but I believe that had he never left, no one would say that. If you really need (you don't, really) to tag a character as "the heart", it would likely be Abed.
@@Raktasdelespacio that's kinda the point. Troy doesn't seem like an integral part but when he isn't there the difference is very noticeable
@@BlitzerXYZ Then there's no point, the only reason we noticed is because he did leave. If Alison Brie had decided to go first, her absence would have been just as noticeable and people would be saying "Oh, she really was the heart of the show!", same for Dani Pudi and probably Joel McHale. Not that Troy wasn't up there too, I can't say the same for Shirley, Britta or Pierce, tbh (even the Dean and Chang seem more integral to the show).
What i'm saying is, even though Troy made a big difference, the show was fine without him, there are absolute gems in late S5 and S6; if the overall quality is irregular along those seasons, it's for varied reasons including budget, and the fact that most people involved were already a bit worn out and/or already focusing in something else. I don't think Troy leaving is the determining factor.
@@Raktasdelespacio watch remedial chaos theory. If troy leaves, all falls apart.
Although she wasn’t going to completely save the show, I think Frankie was a perfect addition to the crew in season 6. She felt amazingly fresh, while seeming so familiar. I truely wish we had gotten more of her.
Frankie doing Chang 😵😵😵😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Agree she was my fave part of season 6
It took me 4 rewatches to realise she played Kathy in friends😅
Yep, she really makes that season work Really rought new life.
Say whatever you want about season 6, the ending made me cry like a punk and probably will every time
The second hug between Jeff and Abed gets me every time
Also franky and th dean are amazing.
"Troy's birthday at a bar" is one of the _best_ episodes & a brief glimpse at the great missed-opportunity 'ship' that Troy & Annie would've been.
That episode is one of my favorites from that great conversation with Troy and Annie, a show of how Jeff and Britta or any adult are just as stupid as anyone else was a good lesson for Troy and even the audience in a way and I even liked a bit of Shirley and pierce stories even if they didn’t get much focus
I think a Troy and Annie relationship would've made more sense than a Troy and Britta. I think it would've made more comedic situations too.
@@Power11112 Jeff and Annie always felt weird not just for the fact that Annie was fresh out of High School and Jeff was well into his 30s. But Jeff and Britta were very much a thing for Season 1 and Annie even expressed how she felt gross about it. But then suddenly in S2, she's all infatuated with Jeff.
Agreed, it was hilarious, showed how immature and similar Jeff and Britta truly are, and had a great arc of maturity and learning that adults are stupid too for Troy. And I do kind of wish Troy and Annie got together, at least for awhile. I get the writers not trying to go for ships (even though they still do at times), but I feel they do have a great bond and could make for both endearing and funny character work. It would've at least been better than Troy x Britta and Jeff x Annie.
@@goodfellabeatsI always felt that Britta and Troy have a certain level of immaturity while Annie and Troy I honestly can't see at all. They are more like brother and sister to me.
Frankie has my single favorite bit of the entire series. In the Garrett wedding episode her awkward girl talk monologue before Jeff bursts in the room is the best piece of comedic acting in the entire show.
The entire series?!?
Yeah maybe the best in season 6, but not in the entire show….
My other sister is... aha... mentally re--PANTY RAID!!
That episode is golden. I hated how they did Britta dirty. Upon multiple viewings, I realized they didn't actually change her character, they just swapped Annie as Jeff romantic interest and Jeff's conscience. And I think that's awesome, because Britta needed to evolve as a character. Unfortunately Annie doesn't do the same. Once the show establishes Annie as the main woman and a support to Jeff, they are both stuck in those roles to the bitter end.
That's why the wedding episode is great. Everyone in the group goes solo, unburdened by their role in the group. I wish we got to see it.
And Frankie's epic line "And we need to get you away from Jeff". Like seriously, Annie is so amazing when she's being driven or goofing off with Abed and Troy. When she's with Jeff it's just creepy. It was cute at first, not so much in later seasons.
I guess that's a minor nitpick, wishing the characters would have more experimental pairings, instead defaulting into the same thing again and again.
Like I wanted to see more from Annie and Britta, Abed and Jeffrey, and basically anyone with Shirley.
paget brewster is a genius
One key point about Remedial Chaos Theory: It's all in Abed's head, so THAT'S why Troy leaving leads to catastrophe.
ohhhhhhhhhhh my god. oh my god
The fake clip shows were always my favorite. The entire point of a clip show is to make things easier and cheaper, but this was the direct opposite. Even though it's on a meta level, that concept is so funny to me
what are fake clip shows?
@@elijahnageli3202season 2 episode 21 and season 3 episode 19
@@elijahnageli3202 Clip shows (usually cost saver episodes that use clips from old episodes with a small amount of actual plot to serve as a through-line) that incorporate fake clips that were actually recorded specifically for the episode, Sunny also did one.
@@elijahnageli3202 like friends would have a clip episode most seasons that's just old footage reused, "Ross and Rachel's greatest hits" type shit. So community made fun of that trope by essentially flashing back to parts from episodes we never saw. There's an old west town adventure, there's a habitat for humanity event, there's a camping trip, there's the time Pierce was almost murdered by the cartel. All of these are shown without the context that the show feigns it has😂
It's pretty damn clever when you think about it
Seasons 1-3 are clearly the golden age of community but I really did love season 6. It felt different but familiar and I think it did a good job concluding the series.
Just finished watching season 3 and I think if it had ended there it would have been perfect IMO. No huge cliffhangers, everything seems to be resolved too.
@@CLA82529 I would rather sit through Season 4 20 times than lose seasons 5 & 6. Those are gems that need to be loved more than they are.
I guess, but Season 5 & 6 are the platinum age, better and refined in ways some people fail to understand, and advertising opts for Gold cuz it's easier to market.
season 6 is so underrated, the inclusion of Frankie and Elroy felt like a breath of fresh air to the cast. just wish we had more of them.
This is hella harsh I can't lie. For me, community is a character-driven show, and even in the gas leak year, I think that happens. There's exploration and revelation and I have way fewer problems with this show than a lot of other people apparently have. It's like abed says, you've got to let it phone it in from time to time; nothing is perfect, even the greatest TV show ever
YES! Thanks for putting this into words.
exactly, this video is extremely harsh that misses so many points of Season 4
The guy even kind of mentioned in the video how season 4 nailed the characters but mishandled the plots. I think that’s the best way to put it. The characters are there (maybe an inconsistency or two) but the storylines just aren’t nearly as good. The humor, I think, also took a different turn from the Harmon’s writers room. So the humor was different and for a lot of people it didn’t click the same way. Which is understandable. Humor is very subjective. While I find season 4 to be the weakest overall by a solid margin, I still found myself enjoying it when I watched it
Exactly, plus I have a sincere love for Season 6 and always will
Yeah. I can't finish watching this video. I'm getting Changry.
Here’s why I’m ok with Chang being lousy at paintball in s2
A) he wasn’t that great in the first season- Chang is a great pb player (according to Chang) and the only thing he did was mutually destroy Brita
B) his strategy in s1 is basically just to spam shoot and a plot point in s2 is the scarcity of bullets
yes he played horribly in s1 too lol.
@@jcp1296 they kind of implied that he took out everyone else that may’ve still been in the game before he encountered Britta and jeff
@@Power11112 by also doing spray and pray
You can't deny how cool it is to see Chang do a tribute to those kind of movies.
@@ThisIsNotYourFriend yes I can. I’m denying it. See? It’s easy
47:46 I don't think you quite understood that scene correctly - The show makes a big point of showing that only when thinking of Annie, he has an emotional reaction strong enough.
Exactly
Thought I was in the wrong for a second
naaahnah man, that's definitely not the point. he clearly looks at them all and collectively, even if pushed through by annie, they all fill the gauge, after he looks at all of them. sure it was conscious to have annie be the last one, but sure as hell just her would have not sufficed. but whatever, buried treasure or smth
@@elijahnageli3202 He literally looks away in panic as they turn around because he doesn't want Annie to see it was her causing that emotional reaction.
@@elijahnageli3202 Harmon says on the commentary, its meant to be Annie, not the group, but admits it wasnt shot as clearly as he wanted.
Season 6 is up there with the first three for me. It feels different, but it is very much comfort food for me. Elroy is fantastic in wedding videography, Frankie is amazing in every scene she is in. Her "Are you stupid?" monologue to the dean is one of the most quotable things in the show. Some of the storylines fall flat, but the chemistry is there. In season six those are characters who deeply know and love each other and that really pays off in the finale.
I think a huge part of the trouble with season 6's stories is the budget. Nearly every episode is shot entirely or almost entirely in the school. Very few new sets, props, costumes, etc. The writing was still there. It just wasn't allowed to be what it used to be so it had to become something else.
The dreamatorium episode is my favorite by far in the whole series but almost entirely because abed is a character I relate to and enjoy seeing more than the rest of the cast. I can understand how sometimes he might come off as selfish and manipulative but in the case of the pop fiction/my dinner with Andre episode but keep In mind he cannot properly communicate emotions easily without relying on something like a reference. He wanted to impress Jeff, he wanted to be seen as worth talking to and notably did not know about the party he was avoiding. He wasn't doing a prolonged movie reference just because he likes those he like genuinely wanted to talk with Jeff but does not feel capable of doing it without relying on his special interest. Maybe that sounds like a leap in logic but I'm autistic and sometimes in much more subtle ways I have to do the same things. Often his "selfishness" comes from the fact it's much more effort for him to understand other people
This has to be the hottest take I've ever seen
Dean didn’t start his obsession with Jeff in season 4. He was pretty much always that way. Especially in season 3
nah im rewatching and he shows up occasionally but seems to only start acting odd towards jeff in ep 13, s1. its still most of the show though.
@:3 :P Yeah, I realised that. He's always been weird towards Jeff. Earlier seasons were more under the radar
@@3p952the constant touching of Jeff was happening in the naked pool episode, so it was established well before s4.
nothing like watching this and them announcing the movie right after im done, couldn't be a better friday
waIT WHAT?! REALLY? Are you serious? Six seasons and a movie! YES!!!
love that for you
God… I can’t disagree more with what you said in season 6. I thought it was phenomenally made. Frankie might actually be one of my favourite characters in the show. Every line elroy had was hilarious.
right?
I had entitely forgotten she was in the show until this video, and had difficulty picturing her when mentioned, and I've seen the show at least 5 times over. Each to their own I guess!
I feel like the incest wedding episode deserves more praise, just for Keith David alone in that episode
Let's not forget Todd's speech, and... everything going on in that episode, honestly, it knocked everything out of the park. I think that's one episode where every second has me entertained for one reason or another, it still has insane highs on top of that. The characterisation is superb. What makes this episode for me is the realisation that everything happening in the episode is just the characters coming to terms with having to take Garrett, a secondary character, seriously. Chang is the only one who actually manages to do it, cuz he was in the same position once, and the rest of the time he's just happy to be on the table.
I personally feel that alison brie carried the show, with the "dean" being close second. There is just something about her voice and tone that is unique. The scene where she interrogates the yam killer just killed me. Same with the episode with the fake guns. Some jokes were very intelligent, and without realizing you are in for a ride... "And debra lets be clear, i want everything to get through the porn blocker. What do you mean everything? EVERYTHING!!!'
I actually think Alison Brie was the weakest link in the first season but she gradually grew into it. At the end, with Troy not being around, she was the true heart of the show while still having her own flaws and quirks.
she clearly put everything into her character since season one, and it pays off, bcs Annie is hard to hate!
Genuinely going to watch this entirely again because it was so good last time. I’m sure I’ll discover all sorts of new things on my first rewatch, as with the source material.
Samesies
One of the best series out there that also had no prompting by NBC
Same
'Now there's a man that knows his meatballs.'
Keith David is God's gift to comedy. He's so real his truth is funny
S1 Pierce did a lot of prat falling because Chevy insisted on it, not because they didn't know what to do with him. That's Chevy's forte and he felt the show wasn't utilizing his talent but Harmon wanted Pierce to be a different kind of character than Chevy was used to playing.
Also, I know these are your opinions but I think Seasons 5 and 6 are pretty good. The writing and humor is still every bit as intelligent as it always was but it was just a shame not having Troy, Pierce, and Shirley.
What surprised me the most after watching it for the first time was that I thought Abed's character was going to suffer immensely from Troy not being around, but while Troy's absence was certainly felt, it wasn't because of Abed. They still utilized him pretty well, and I do think that if it had been the other way around, then Troy's character would've suffered much more than Abed did.
"With no sign of a movie on the horizon"
The future brings wonderful news :)
Is there any kind of ETA yet or anything?
@@woodlefoof2 I think production has either begun or is scheduled, so that's good. Donald Glover might come on, Dan was uncharacteristically confident about it.
The ultimate B story is when you could see Abed doing stuff in the background of Season 2 Episode 3 "The Psychology of Letting Go"
The effort you make to ignore the Jeff/Annie storyline is pretty funny to me. "Thinking about all the study group"? Lol he was clearly thinking about Annie when that door open
The VR episode in season 6 is one of the funniest in the entire series for me, simple as that.
JESUS WEPT!!!
I adore the ridiculous ways that they have to interact with the VR world lmao. Like Pelton having to drown the file to delete it as he whispers at it to not resist and just let go is hysterically absurd
@@littlechickeyhudak “I set the time zone. I SET the TIME ZONE!!!”
“And my phone does that automatically.”
He missed the point of the episode entirely which is incredibly ironic considering he made a reference to cyberpunk 2077 in the same video, you'd think he get the episode and the jokes but alas tis not the case
Season 3 is my favorite because the high is just so good
Remedial Chaos Theory is one of the most fascinating episodes in this series. That's the nerdy, smart, funny writing I love. Dan Harmon at his best.
The incest wedding episode is one of the best community episodes. But unfortunately the rest of season 6 up to that isn't amazing. Still better than a lot of other sitcoms though
I disagree, I think the end of S6 is so good that it makes the rest of that truly stellar season seem lacking in comparison.
This video should be titled “Complaining about every little thing that bothered me about Community and completely dismissing the second half of season 5 & season 6”
Hahaha and making writing suggestions that are worse than what he’s complaining about.
I love how all of harmons fans just brush off how he acted towards meg and like it's just a 'tortured artist' thing.
FR like I love Community but they act like the real victim was Harmon for getting axed or the viewers for missing out on what the show might have been. Like, no there was a real woman that was negatively impacted because Harmon sexually harassed her.
Exactly this. “But he apologized so it’s okay!” Disgusting.
This might be a hot take:
He recognized what he did was not ok and apologized. I’m not saying that what he did is okay, but his victim forgave him so I think it’s ok for his fans to move past it as well (as long as they recognize what he did was wrong and don’t try to make excuses).
Because he publicly apologized to Megan Ganz, he was able to quell the drama, and let Megan Ganz advance her career. Because he didn’t try and fight her, being dan harmon’s victim is not what she’s known best for.
Should he have not taken advantage of her in the first place? Of course. But the reality is that this is a disease in Hollywood and most powerful men bury it.
He held himself accountable, made amends, and because of it both parties involved were able to move on to bigger and more successful projects. We should be encouraging more of this. Creating an environment where people try to become better but are too scared to admit there mistakes will not equal justice. It just means that there will be more women who stories are either ignored or contested.
@@PodyTheCirate It's ok if she herself thinks so and he's genuinely learned from it. From the few things I've heard, I can't confirm either one of those so Imma keep being skeptical.
Hm? Which fans? That was sh*tty, obviously, no one should ever act that way. I love Dan Harmon's work, and some aspects of himself that bleed in are also interesting to me, and I'm glad he got held accountable and felt the consequences of his actions to a degree. He held himself accountable, and where I don't see how something like that can truly be rectified, he's the closest I've seen anyone come to achieving that very thing. In all honest, that's better for Megan in my mind, because knowing she got past something horrid like that is genuinely inspiring. In that sense, while I agree that he paints a contentious character, I think we can allow his writing to stand for itself. That's where he shines anyway, the interpersonal skills not a factor in that, thankfully.
19:37
Losing its mojo? These are some of the best episodes in the series. I rewatch the Detective Chang episode monthly
Will smith's dad coming back in fresh prince of Bel-Air was a good dead beat dad moment. Epically thanks to uncle Phil afterwards
I had the same thought when he mentioned returning fathers on sitcoms
But that's just it- it wasn't good because of the 'deadbeat dad' thing. It was good because of the really positive fatherly relationship (with Phil).
@@alexandramckeown6826 FairPoint but I feel like it's impossible to have one without the other.
@@adelhardtlyl I suppose there's no answer to that question because there's no version of the episode where Will's dad just doesn't show up. I just think the emotional core is far more towards one side (Phil) than the other.
@@alexandramckeown6826 well that's because the emotional core of the whole show has to do with will reconnecting with a father figure. Imo
I think you really missed the mark on seasons 5 & 6.
And in season 5's finale, it was Annie. It was Jeff's love for Annie that opened the door. Harmon confirmed this.
To me, that makes the series finale even more impactful. Jeff liked Britta sexually and as a friend but he truly loved Annie, however neither one of them were ever at a place where they could go anywhere with it during the show's run so in the end, he just had to learn to let it go and accept that it wouldn't happen through no fault of their own.
Dammit, I sound like a 15 year old on Tumblr...!
@@AD240pCharlie Nah, love is cool, the real ships are worth thinking about.
They are so good, wouldn't trade them for the world. I hate when people look down on them.
i truly can't believe that. i'll watch the scene rn, but holy shit another comment said this and i replied thinkin they were talking out of their ass. harmon confirmed this? where? that is amazing and that it was somehow missed by this many people is beyond me
@@elijahnageli3202i wouldn't be surprised because dan harmon is a freak and that just ruined the scene for me
I think my main issue with the later Community seasons is how it betrays the premise, which at it's core is "a group of students taking classes at a community college". If you take that away, you're left with very little grounding for the story to take place.
What we have at the end is a flanderized excuse for familiar characters to get together and get into unjustified hijinks.
The last two seasons definitely have their strong moments. But the more you look, the more it seems like a slowly decaying corpse kept afloat by fans.
I chose to remember this show by its strongest moments, which exist in every season (yes, even the gas leak year) and enjoy the downward spiral into the later seasons.
The slow decline the last few seasons, limping through season 6 is actually fitting -- like a meta narrative on life and how we tend to romanticize the past. If you hold onto something too long, there's diminishing returns. We have to move on, move forward.
Naah
I quite appreciated the sentimentality of the last season, which probably had a greater impact due to the fact I was going through a sentimental period IRL when I watched it. Personally I rank it in 4th place, but that doesnt mean its bad. As a final season it was great.
Truthfully, that's why...(and I know I'm in the minority on this) I'm okay if there's never a movie. I think season 6 ended as well as it could have given all the cast changes and ultimately not even being on NBC
Slow decline? Are you insane? The show peaked at the end.
Yeah, its franky coming in and the budget meta jokes bactually used to give jeff, ok i fingd it refreshing how it forces via franky to try new things?!
That was actually impressive how this video took a pleasant memory of one of my favorite shows and complained about it for a very unpleasant hour.
6 SEASONS AND A MOVIE BABYYYYYYY ITS HAPPENING
Season 3’s goofiness makes it my favourite season of anything ever. Certainly a few misses but mostly amazing.
One of the things I find interesting about the Community fan base is how inconsistent it is in terms of favourite seasons.
I'm obligated to say 🗣now that's a man that knows how to reupload a video.
Season 6 is a grower, not a shower.
The words I would use to describe this series are:
Cool… cool cool cool!
What’s so sad is that abed probably would have gotten a greater gift if Chevy chase didn’t leave early during the filming of “digital estate planning”. He was supposed to have a heartfelt moment with abed who made his dad digitally play football with pierce in the game and they’d have hugged. He stormed out though because he was tired and it was the last day of filming so it never could have worked out. They never got that important relationship growth so pierce never cared for him strongly
Jim Rash as The Dean was definitely criminally underrated. There isn’t even a trace of The Dean in Rash’s interviews, which speaks volumes about his ability to act as a character whose mannerisms irk you for no *apparent* reason.
I enjoyed Community from start to finish, although I never watched critically, only for enjoyment. Almost time for a rewatch, will be thankful for every single episode that was made!
I genuinely loved seasons 5 and 6
Thank you, some people just don't get it. I wouldn't trade them for anything, the movie is like a sizzling brownie underneath the ice cream though, or at least I hope it lives up to that.
I love how the writers were aware of season 4 and it's drawbacks that they started referring to it in later seasons as the "gas leak year".
Yeah I'll watch this again, for my retrospective on your community retrospective.
Lol 😂
The season 2 premiere is likely the greatest season premiere of any show I’ve ever seen. It’s funny, weird, relatable, builds off of what was established in the last season, and perfectly sets the course for the episodes to come. It’s legitimately fantastic.
Gotta say, I’m a fan of the “missing dad” storylines in Always Sunny with Dennis/Dee and Charlie every time they come up. Sadly they concluded the “Charlie’s dad” thing last season, at least Bruce pops up every now and then though lol
Major shoutout to Jonathan Banks for gracing this show with his presence, even for just one season. One of my favorite actors.
I think every season was so creative and fulfilling in its own way. I genuinely loved the whole series, even if there were missing character, or different directors during season 4. It is brilliant and versatile.
I really honestly enjoyed the entire show it had a great soul, and terrific chemistry between between the entire cast and its many guest stars who all seemed to enjoy their roles.
I think Dan Harmon really created a great template and the show stayed pretty close to it till the end.....now lets have that film as promised.
The last 4 episodes leading up the series finale really saved season 6 and the finale.
Honestly it’s my favorite show as I’m willing to rewatch the series over and over again.
I had a scathing comment.. but you redeemed it in the last thing you said. I think perhaps yer deep appreciation of this show we love and a critical eye for a retrospective may have kept u from acknowledging the countless nuances and layered jokes peppered throughout every episode. I agreed w so much of what you said about the Americans series. Historical fiction owes the viewer much. But sitcoms.. my gawd they are the chocolate bar impulse buy at the grocery store check out of entertainment. Community remains it's own island among countless forgettable 30min syndicated romps. I love it for what it was i dont pine for what it should have or could have done. DGMW I sincerely enjoy your work on the shows we love. Just some honest feedback from a wholly personal place.
I remember watching the last episode of Season 6 and felt really emotional that Jeff and Annie never got together. And Jeff was the last person from the original group to remain in the campus. Not even Buzz Hickey is there and he was great.
Idk... That episode really strung a chord with me. And I remember being so emotional i actually cried.
I believe Jim Rash wrote the Freaky Friday episode of season 4, which is one of the best of that season.
Pierce was great for a time, but to me Elroy was a character that I would've love to see more of.
"I've got a brain the size of Jupiter. I'm nobody's 4th ghostbuster".
Though I disagree with about 60% of your opinions here, I really appreciate the video. Thanks for your hard work.
oh we got a movie on the way
This show was way ahead of its time
Ive recently been rewatching after all the movie rumors fired up again. Im simply in awe of this cast. Chevy aside, i dont think any actors could fake the way they bonded making this show. Seeing them reconnect for table reads, or random interviews, is all you need to see to realize this was a special show.
BTW favorite fun fact? Jim Rash (Dean) unexpectedly sold his home WAY faster than he planned, so Joel McHale told him to live with his family while he transitioned. He stayed 8 months. Adorable.
Also i totally agree Yvette Nicole Browns incredible talent and comedic delivery was not utilized as it should be. Seeing her for any event outside the show and its SO obvious the cast loved her and she has serious talent.
I just finished this series a few days ago, and I’m so sad it’s over, feels like saying goodbye to family
Watch it again sometime?
Season 6 had some really good stuff. One of my favorites has to be the after credits scene explaining why they were driving cross country with a giant hand. It was beautiful. Season 6 paintball episode was great. And the Honda episode.
Thanks for the reupload. This is a fantastic show which deserves more recognition, but was slightly hampered by its execution, and behind the scenes drama.
Bruh You’re everywhere
Having watched it a couple times, I think that the show never fully recovers from the hit of losing about half its cast (Pierce, Troy and Shirley plus Hickey and Duncan) in the span of one season. The additions where great but the mix was never as good as the original. However, they managed to end in a really high note: I would say that the last 3 episodes of season 6 are probably the best after Troy's departure.
In the rest of seasons I tend to agree: 1 was great but maybe too grounded, 3 was great but maybe too wacky, 2 was the perfect mix, 4 had a lot of problems but the biggest one is that (bar the Freaky Friday episode) it wasn't really funny.
27 years and just now I started Community. It quickly became my favorite show above all the ones I've seen my whole life. This show is a gem.
What I love about Community is the hypermeta narrative in which the characters are whatever they need them to be. It is the most GenX TV show ever.
One of the best moments to me was Annie's Christmas song, I can still rewatch it and be in tears of laughter as she descends into idiocy while still being funny
love the video and this channel but seasons 5 and 6 are still really underrated
i love this video so much. thank you for your service
Thank you for making this!
Honestly please do continue your Christmas TV series, love rewatching those.
Just watched all the seasons in 2 weeks and it's definitely obvious when the writers had issues with actors and when the stories plot struggled to move forward. The paintball episode and Dungeons and dragons episodes are epic
Maybe it’s the weed, maybe the shrooms, but with such perfect delivery you’ve earned a subscriber!
I stumbled on to your channel and I’m glad I did. Good videos and good work. Keep it up.
Great video, thanks for putting the work in! Just finished watching the show and needed this, haha. You phrased thoughts I couldn't put into words. I loved the show so much that two things frustrated me: Firstly, the makers seemed so phobic of honest, heartfelt moments like Jeff's graduation or the talk with Britta after he confronted his dad (which I actually thought was a beautifully written scene). They somehow immediately felt the need to resolve the tension back to neutral. It's a bummer, in the season one finale they showed how capable they were of that. And secondly, how especially the last seasons don't have overreaching plot or character arcs. The stakes were getting lower and a plot felt more like it was simply a device to justify the goofy setting/ style rather than the other way around (like Jeff's accidental overdosing in the GI-Joe episode. It felt more like the writers really wanted to incorporate GI-Joe into the show rather than giving the character depth or growth. That episode coincidentally also shyed away from giving space to a heavy, vulnerable moment and so after his coma the tension is immediately resolved by a throw away joke by Jeff). A show that to me struck that perfect balance was without a doubt Scrubs
Lived the romance in scrubs, the humor was not up to the level of Com tho. G I Joe ep was amazing.
Season 6 has three of my favorite episodes in the entire show. I found the introduction of Frankie as a character to be really good for introducing new dynamics, particularly with Annie as this was the first time where Annie and another character bounced off each other without clashing and it was quite refreshing.
Unlike season 4 which was genuinely unfunny at every point, season 6 had some great episodes and was overall "good enough" even if it lacked the consistency of seasons 2 and 3, which is fully understandable given the fact that it introduces 2 new characters and has a lot less room to play around with, since many concepts had already been explored in the previous 5 seasons
"I didn't understand Inception!"
**Falls to the floor sobbing.**
"So many layers..."
I just binged through this entire show about a month ago, it is SO GOOD
Season 6 is my favourite season, Frankie is my favourite character, I wish it could have continued like that for more than one short season.
This show is so wonderful, and I'm overjoyed they're making a movie. Season 6 is good - there, I said it!
This is such an enjoyable retrospective of one of my all time favourite shows, thank you so much for producing such good content! You've earned my sub, and I'm off to watch all your other videos 🎉
Abed is fascinating beyond belief to me. Brilliant and provoking writing.
I have rewatched community 5 times and I’m on my 6th. I keep watching because I notice tiny details I missed the times before.
29:40 the whole season 4 feels like a community spin-off episode told by someone who never watched any of the community episode, but heard it being said by someone else, and tried to tell other people about them as if they already watched it :')
I'd say it's more like a fanfic writer getting a chance to write a season of the show they love. They love it and they try their best, but ultimately their lack of experience and their tendency to put too much of their own style into it while often forgetting what made the show what it was ruined it.
That being said, I knew fans disliked season 4 before I even watched the show, and I gotta say, compared to some sitcoms (like the last four seasons of Two and a half men or the last three of Brooklyn Nine-Nine) the decline in quality - while noticable - wasn't TOO bad! In comparison to other seasons, yes, but it was still somewhat enjoyable.
My favorite show ever 🥳 thanks for the video!
When starburns get snuck up on by Todd I lost my shit😂 “I starburns” the actor who plays Todd can go from wholesome and sweet to creepy and stalkerish so quick😂
I reason Jeff was the only person graduating in season four finale was because in the Premier they say that begin classes over the summer I can leave a semester early