Nice video! We have had good and bad experiences so far with our 7.3 and 10 speed overall. We've talked a out it on our channel. There are some things we love about the truck - and the 7.3 is pretty amazing.
I went from a 2008 Chevy Duramax to a 2022 Ford F350 7.3 with a 3.73 rear gears, and could not be more pleased. Originally I was looking at a F250, but in 2022 they only offered either a 4.30 or 3.55 rear end, but a F350 came standard with a 3.73. I use my truck to commute to work and pull a ~11K fifth wheel, it works great. The gas option also gives me almost twice the payload.
I've been stressing that I messed up not going with the 4.30 gears. I'll be towing 12-13K lbs max like 8-10 times per year and thought they would be overkill. My truck has 20 inch wheels and 34 inch tires. I might go to 35 inch tires. You're the first person I've seen on UA-cam that actually chnaged their order from the 4.30s to 3.73s and it's a relief to hear you talk about how it's fine. Great video.
@@SliderFury1 don’t stress about not having the 4:30’s. The 10 speed trans is a game changer. I looked up all the gear ratios of the 10 speed and compared them to the gears in my old Dodge. 1st and 2nd gear are lower than first was in the Dodge. So when I get to 3rd I’m in a gear equivalent to the old Dodge 1st gear. The 4:30 will give more grunt off the line but it also shortens the time you are in each gear. Once you’re rolling on the highway with the weight you are talking about towing, the biggest difference is what gear you’ll run at your cruising speed. If you think about for years they told us not to pull in overdrive. These trucks have 3 overdrives. A 4:30 will have you pulling in 9th and 10th. The 3:73 you’ll be in 7th and 8th. The 3:73 is a perfect gear for towing occasionally but still offers good drive ability and keeps the RPM’s lower at highway speeds. Enjoy that new truck!! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Your experience is right in line with mine. My F250 was ordered by me, Feb of 22 recieved in April of 22. Sitting at 26000 roughly with a lifetime computer average on trip 2 of 11.6 mpg, trip 2 has not been reset since i recieved the truck with 3 miles on it so this is combined towing and highway milage. 7.3 with 4.30 gears 275 75 R20 (stock 34" michelin) I get 14-14.5 mpgs empty running 75-80 here in New Mexico, drop to 65-70 and it will get 14.5-15. Rpms with current tires 75mph is 2100 rpm . We pull a 34ft 5th at 10300 and add a Polaris Rzr on a single axle trailer about 1/2 the time we tow. I tow with all 10 gears available but remove 8-10 manually when approaching a big grade, 7th gear will pull most hills 6th with 4.30 gears is the sweet spot for most big grades. 6th puts me at 4000Rpms , peak torque is 4500. 65-70 towing yeilds 8 -9 mpg depending on wind and mountains. Worst was 6.5 into a 30mph head wind and gusts holding 70mph, this was a double tow with the sxs behind the 5th wheel.
@@nm04ford87 Thanks so much for commenting and for all the details. There really doesn’t seem to need to be a whole lot of difference between our experiences and that is very reassuring for anyone looking at a truck. It doesn’t, sound like getting a 4:30 is going to have much of a negative impact at all if you’re numbers on fuel are accurate. Thanks for watching and leaving your comment. Much appreciated!
@robertweller2662 The Mpgs are from the truck computer and I have checked it by hand a few times. The computer is always higher by .2-.5 mpg than hand calculated. Still much better than my 200,000 mile 04 F350 V10 gets.
We traded in 2016 6.7 PS with 331 gears for the 2024 7.3 GODZILLA with 373 gears . We were unable to keep the PS out of the shop every time we went out of town it broke down that’s 7 out 9 states we travel in. The most important thing to remember is that most gassers will give you 150k to 175k with no problem plus a creat motor installed is 10k then drive 150k to 175k that will give me 300k you have payed for DEF system +Tubro+ EGR maybe 2 turbos and your winning that i get 1-2 mpg less then you , with. The cost of the high output 12k -oil changes -fuel filters. it would take 40 years using cost per mile to break even provided you do loose your CP4 pump at 10 to 12k ….. sorry for the rant
@@vincehollingsworth8214 no apologies needed my friend. Exactly why I said I didn’t need or want a newer diesel. Sorry to hear about all the PS problems. I hope you get many good years of service from the 7.3. Well for that mater I hope we all do!! Thanks for watching and the comment too.
Good honest review, I went from 2017 F150 3.5 to 2022 F250 7.3 with 4.30 and get the same fuel economy towing the same load as the F150. At 74 mph it's turning 2200 rpm in 10th gear. Had 3.73 been available i would have been gotten it but im still pleased with the 4.30s. I think you are right that the biggest advantage with the 4.30s is starting off.
@tools4dummies The Tremor with it's larger 35 inch tires comes with the 4:30 and runs a little less RPM's. The problem I have is my 5th wheel is not really designed to be hauled by the taller trucks made today so I can't add any height to mine meaning larger tires are not an option. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
I have a 2023 7.3 4.30 gears, and I tow a Brinkley Z3100. I am getting 7-8mpg towing. I don't go over 65mph. My next truck will be a long bed diesel for better towing through hills and not having to fight fueling at gas stations.
@myriadcorp That's a fairly heavy trailer when fully loaded and certainly warrants the 4:30 gears. Everyone seems to be in the 7-8 MPG range no matter the weight. I think the wind drag is more of an issue than the weight honestly. A diesel will be better in the hills due to the turbo. Just watch those EGT's. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
Good information. I have a 1997 F350 long box with the 7.3 Diesel engine. I run the truck mostly towing 5,500lbs with a small cargo trailer. About 6 times a year I tow a 12,000 lb 5th wheel Dunesport which is built to haul my 2004 Jeep wrangler. When the Jeep is in that toyhauler, my towing weight jumps up to the 17k range. So 12-17k. I’m on the highways pulling some good hills in the Cascades. I figured if a modified 1997 7.3 diesel with 4.10is good enough then a 7.3 gas with 4.30s and a way better transmission has got to be as good or better doing the same things. Rumor is there’s a High Output version of the gas 7.3L coming.
@@robertl9065 I had not heard about the high output 7.3 but it does not surprise me. Reports are the stock internals on the 7.3 can handle up to 1,000 HP. You will most definitely want the 4:30 gears for your application. The Ford towing chart says 3:73 gears are good up to 16,000 lbs. anything around 16k and up to 19k you better have the 4:30. If pulling a good neck the 4:30 is good up to 20k 5th wheel limited to 19k due to the 5th wheel hitch and attachment of it to the truck. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. If you like Jeeps, check out the other videos on my channel. We just went to Moab and rented a Jeep in May and did some trails. I posted a video each day, some are hiking some are off roading. We were pretty careful as it was a rental.
@@johnmcalisterjr3913 Thank you, they are Armored Ridgeback lights. Wired to up fitter switch # 6 and set to be able to be on without the ignition on. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
I agree, I went with a 2023 F250 with 6.8L and 3.73 gears. I tow a 7600 LB RV trailer and a small utility trailer and I tell ya, these gassers are great. Normally Empty 90% of the time and towing 10% of the time. I live in the South East and the areas i routinely go is within Texas to Florida so makes sense for me to go with gas. About gas stations - this is odd - I find the ones off the interstate don't fit all that well in, however if i scoot into town i can always find a gas station with a better pump arrangement. Id love to put an AUX or Transfer tank in but they are pricey for the gasoline.
@johnfertsch6839 the best option I have seen for a gasser is the 58 gallon tank made by transfer flow. But as you said, very pricey. I find if I behave myself and keep my speeds down, I can pull 7 to 8 MPG and figure on 30 gallons leaving me a 4 gallon reserve, my max range is 210 to 240 miles. Most of the places we camp are within that range so most of the time I can get there on one tank of fuel. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
I tried going from a diesel powerstroke back to a gas engine. Just dont like how the gas trucks pull so ended up going to a Cummins and tuning it and its a monster.
Gas trucks feel different towing for sure. I used to tow a smaller trailer with a 1/2 ton gasser. Switched to a 5.9 Cummins and loved it. Just not a fan of all the garbage they put on the new diesels. They are awesome towing machines though. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I’ve had my 22 F350 7.3 w/ 10spd w/ 4.30 for two years. The clunkiest transmission I’ve ever had. Unless I drive it in snow/sand mode it will be sluggish at times. I’m not happy with it. I spent 60k for this truck. Waited 20yrs until the right time came. And I got this new. Wouldn’t buy again.
@@pageleftblankintentionally Man that really sucks. I feel bad for you. Like any vehicle there are some built with issues. The 10 speed is a different animal for sure. It does seem that the of the guys with transmission complaints, those running the 4:30 seems to say they are worse. It does make sense, the 4:30 makes the transmission shift sooner and have more of that clunky feeling. Have you considered a 5 start tune? I’ve heard good things. I will do mine but not until I’m out of warranty. Thanks for watching and for leaving a comment. Good luck with the truck, I hope they get it sorted out for you.
2003 F250 and F350 with the 6.0 Power stroke could have had a 3:73 or a 4:10 gear from the factory. An F250 and an F350 are essentially the same truck other than the springs and in some cases the rear end axle housings are different. In most cases, the 3/4 and 1 ton versions of these trucks only have minor differences, the largest of those being payload. The F350 payload on a 2022 F350 is 1,000 lbs or more higher than the F250 payload.
@michaeldavis8259 The F250 has 3:55's or the optional 4:30. I don't know for sure but I doubt a F250 gets much better mileage. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@michaeldavis8259 15 best on a long trip speeds 65-75. Average driving back and forth to work mix of mostly highway some city more like 13. Thanks for watching!
@@LH-yq8bh that’s interesting, I was just talking with the owner of a Tremor a week ago and he told me he is running 2200 at 70 mph. The Tremor with its 35 inch tires would run lower RPM’s. Perhaps he is running those RPM’s at 75 MPH.
I am running stock 33 inch tires. The 4.30 gears really start eating gas after 70 mph. The 4.30's do allow for 10th gear towing. I pull a 15k 5th wheel and pull in 10th most of the time which gets me about 8.5 mph on fairly level driving. Good video and needed info
@@LH-yq8bh what speed are you running while towing in 10th? I can get 8.5 on a flat two lane but need to keep speeds to 55-60. My fifth wheel isn’t that heavy but it has a box nose not a nice aerodynamic nose like many newer trailers.
I run 68 to 70 mph. I have heard that the 4.30 gears give better mpg at lower speeds than the 3.73 and 3.55 since many lock out 9 or 10. I can climb a slight hill in 10th. On the way to Florida on I-95 from VA I got 9 mpg by lieometer and 8.8 hand calculated.
Nice video! We have had good and bad experiences so far with our 7.3 and 10 speed overall. We've talked a out it on our channel. There are some things we love about the truck - and the 7.3 is pretty amazing.
@@PurpleCollarLife I have watched and commented on your videos of your red truck. Thanks for stopping by the channel and for commenting.
I went from a 2008 Chevy Duramax to a 2022 Ford F350 7.3 with a 3.73 rear gears, and could not be more pleased. Originally I was looking at a F250, but in 2022 they only offered either a 4.30 or 3.55 rear end, but a F350 came standard with a 3.73. I use my truck to commute to work and pull a ~11K fifth wheel, it works great. The gas option also gives me almost twice the payload.
I've been stressing that I messed up not going with the 4.30 gears. I'll be towing 12-13K lbs max like 8-10 times per year and thought they would be overkill.
My truck has 20 inch wheels and 34 inch tires. I might go to 35 inch tires.
You're the first person I've seen on UA-cam that actually chnaged their order from the 4.30s to 3.73s and it's a relief to hear you talk about how it's fine. Great video.
@@SliderFury1 don’t stress about not having the 4:30’s. The 10 speed trans is a game changer. I looked up all the gear ratios of the 10 speed and compared them to the gears in my old Dodge. 1st and 2nd gear are lower than first was in the Dodge. So when I get to 3rd I’m in a gear equivalent to the old Dodge 1st gear. The 4:30 will give more grunt off the line but it also shortens the time you are in each gear. Once you’re rolling on the highway with the weight you are talking about towing, the biggest difference is what gear you’ll run at your cruising speed. If you think about for years they told us not to pull in overdrive. These trucks have 3 overdrives. A 4:30 will have you pulling in 9th and 10th. The 3:73 you’ll be in 7th and 8th. The 3:73 is a perfect gear for towing occasionally but still offers good drive ability and keeps the RPM’s lower at highway speeds. Enjoy that new truck!! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Your experience is right in line with mine. My F250 was ordered by me, Feb of 22 recieved in April of 22. Sitting at 26000 roughly with a lifetime computer average on trip 2 of 11.6 mpg, trip 2 has not been reset since i recieved the truck with 3 miles on it so this is combined towing and highway milage. 7.3 with 4.30 gears 275 75 R20 (stock 34" michelin) I get 14-14.5 mpgs empty running 75-80 here in New Mexico, drop to 65-70 and it will get 14.5-15. Rpms with current tires 75mph is 2100 rpm . We pull a 34ft 5th at 10300 and add a Polaris Rzr on a single axle trailer about 1/2 the time we tow. I tow with all 10 gears available but remove 8-10 manually when approaching a big grade, 7th gear will pull most hills 6th with 4.30 gears is the sweet spot for most big grades. 6th puts me at 4000Rpms , peak torque is 4500. 65-70 towing yeilds 8 -9 mpg depending on wind and mountains. Worst was 6.5 into a 30mph head wind and gusts holding 70mph, this was a double tow with the sxs behind the 5th wheel.
@@nm04ford87 Thanks so much for commenting and for all the details. There really doesn’t seem to need to be a whole lot of difference between our experiences and that is very reassuring for anyone looking at a truck. It doesn’t, sound like getting a 4:30 is going to have much of a negative impact at all if you’re numbers on fuel are accurate. Thanks for watching and leaving your comment. Much appreciated!
@robertweller2662
The Mpgs are from the truck computer and I have checked it by hand a few times. The computer is always higher by .2-.5 mpg than hand calculated. Still much better than my 200,000 mile 04 F350 V10 gets.
We traded in 2016 6.7 PS with 331 gears for the 2024 7.3 GODZILLA with 373 gears . We were unable to keep the PS out of the shop every time we went out of town it broke down that’s 7 out 9 states we travel in. The most important thing to remember is that most gassers will give you 150k to 175k with no problem plus a creat motor installed is 10k then drive 150k to 175k that will give me 300k you have payed for DEF system +Tubro+ EGR maybe 2 turbos and your winning that i get 1-2 mpg less then you , with. The cost of the high output 12k -oil changes -fuel filters. it would take 40 years using cost per mile to break even provided you do loose your CP4 pump at 10 to 12k ….. sorry for the rant
@@vincehollingsworth8214 no apologies needed my friend. Exactly why I said I didn’t need or want a newer diesel. Sorry to hear about all the PS problems. I hope you get many good years of service from the 7.3. Well for that mater I hope we all do!! Thanks for watching and the comment too.
Good honest review, I went from 2017 F150 3.5 to 2022 F250 7.3 with 4.30 and get the same fuel economy towing the same load as the F150. At 74 mph it's turning 2200 rpm in 10th gear. Had 3.73 been available i would have been gotten it but im still pleased with the 4.30s. I think you are right that the biggest advantage with the 4.30s is starting off.
put a inch or two taller tire help bro b those rpms down
Transmission will live a lot longer with the 4.30s. Bigger those gears the less strain on everything in front of them.
@@BrandonBigB956 your not wrong but there are pros and cons to anything like that
@@tools4dummies almost all my towing is back roads 55 mph speeds so 4.30s work for me.
@tools4dummies The Tremor with it's larger 35 inch tires comes with the 4:30 and runs a little less RPM's. The problem I have is my 5th wheel is not really designed to be hauled by the taller trucks made today so I can't add any height to mine meaning larger tires are not an option. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
I have a 2023 7.3 4.30 gears, and I tow a Brinkley Z3100. I am getting 7-8mpg towing. I don't go over 65mph. My next truck will be a long bed diesel for better towing through hills and not having to fight fueling at gas stations.
@myriadcorp That's a fairly heavy trailer when fully loaded and certainly warrants the 4:30 gears. Everyone seems to be in the 7-8 MPG range no matter the weight. I think the wind drag is more of an issue than the weight honestly. A diesel will be better in the hills due to the turbo. Just watch those EGT's. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
Good information. I have a 1997 F350 long box with the 7.3 Diesel engine. I run the truck mostly towing 5,500lbs with a small cargo trailer.
About 6 times a year I tow a 12,000 lb 5th wheel Dunesport which is built to haul my 2004 Jeep wrangler. When the Jeep is in that toyhauler, my towing weight jumps up to the 17k range. So 12-17k. I’m on the highways pulling some good hills in the Cascades.
I figured if a modified 1997 7.3 diesel with 4.10is good enough then a 7.3 gas with 4.30s and a way better transmission has got to be as good or better doing the same things.
Rumor is there’s a High Output version of the gas 7.3L coming.
@@robertl9065 I had not heard about the high output 7.3 but it does not surprise me. Reports are the stock internals on the 7.3 can handle up to 1,000 HP. You will most definitely want the 4:30 gears for your application. The Ford towing chart says 3:73 gears are good up to 16,000 lbs. anything around 16k and up to 19k you better have the 4:30. If pulling a good neck the 4:30 is good up to 20k 5th wheel limited to 19k due to the 5th wheel hitch and attachment of it to the truck. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
If you like Jeeps, check out the other videos on my channel. We just went to Moab and rented a Jeep in May and did some trails. I posted a video each day, some are hiking some are off roading. We were pretty careful as it was a rental.
Solid information :)
@Tailwind1 Thanks!
I like your custom back up lights
@@johnmcalisterjr3913 Thank you, they are Armored Ridgeback lights. Wired to up fitter switch # 6 and set to be able to be on without the ignition on. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
I agree, I went with a 2023 F250 with 6.8L and 3.73 gears. I tow a 7600 LB RV trailer and a small utility trailer and I tell ya, these gassers are great. Normally Empty 90% of the time and towing 10% of the time. I live in the South East and the areas i routinely go is within Texas to Florida so makes sense for me to go with gas. About gas stations - this is odd - I find the ones off the interstate don't fit all that well in, however if i scoot into town i can always find a gas station with a better pump arrangement. Id love to put an AUX or Transfer tank in but they are pricey for the gasoline.
@johnfertsch6839 the best option I have seen for a gasser is the 58 gallon tank made by transfer flow. But as you said, very pricey. I find if I behave myself and keep my speeds down, I can pull 7 to 8 MPG and figure on 30 gallons leaving me a 4 gallon reserve, my max range is 210 to 240 miles. Most of the places we camp are within that range so most of the time I can get there on one tank of fuel. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
Yeah, I was thinking about the 17 or the first year of those came out with the 5.4 L and six speed I have experience rebuilding those engines
@@terrellscaife2411 The 17 would have come with the 6.2 Boss or the 6.7 Power Stroke. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I tried going from a diesel powerstroke back to a gas engine. Just dont like how the gas trucks pull so ended up going to a Cummins and tuning it and its a monster.
Gas trucks feel different towing for sure. I used to tow a smaller trailer with a 1/2 ton gasser. Switched to a 5.9 Cummins and loved it. Just not a fan of all the garbage they put on the new diesels. They are awesome towing machines though. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I’ve had my 22 F350 7.3 w/ 10spd w/ 4.30 for two years. The clunkiest transmission I’ve ever had. Unless I drive it in snow/sand mode it will be sluggish at times. I’m not happy with it. I spent 60k for this truck. Waited 20yrs until the right time came. And I got this new. Wouldn’t buy again.
@@pageleftblankintentionally Man that really sucks. I feel bad for you. Like any vehicle there are some built with issues. The 10 speed is a different animal for sure. It does seem that the of the guys with transmission complaints, those running the 4:30 seems to say they are worse. It does make sense, the 4:30 makes the transmission shift sooner and have more of that clunky feeling. Have you considered a 5 start tune? I’ve heard good things. I will do mine but not until I’m out of warranty. Thanks for watching and for leaving a comment. Good luck with the truck, I hope they get it sorted out for you.
I have a 03 6 liter and it gets 19.5 on the highway, so I know the gears are a little different from the F350 just not sure how much?
2003 F250 and F350 with the 6.0 Power stroke could have had a 3:73 or a 4:10 gear from the factory. An F250 and an F350 are essentially the same truck other than the springs and in some cases the rear end axle housings are different. In most cases, the 3/4 and 1 ton versions of these trucks only have minor differences, the largest of those being payload. The F350 payload on a 2022 F350 is 1,000 lbs or more higher than the F250 payload.
I wonder what the mileage is and F2 50s with the same motor ?
@michaeldavis8259 The F250 has 3:55's or the optional 4:30. I don't know for sure but I doubt a F250 gets much better mileage. Thanks for watching and commenting.
What is your mileage for just the truck with no camper on the highway?
@@michaeldavis8259 15 best on a long trip speeds 65-75. Average driving back and forth to work mix of mostly highway some city more like 13. Thanks for watching!
@@lynwessel2471 7.3 Godzilla? I was thinking the 6 speed only came behind the 6.2 V-8
@@robertweller2662 Oops my bad, 6.2
You're wrong on the 4 30 gears. At 70 mph I and all owners report 1900 rpms
@@LH-yq8bh that’s interesting, I was just talking with the owner of a Tremor a week ago and he told me he is running 2200 at 70 mph. The Tremor with its 35 inch tires would run lower RPM’s. Perhaps he is running those RPM’s at 75 MPH.
Thanks for watching and commenting, I appreciate the feedback and will remove that section of the video.
I am running stock 33 inch tires. The 4.30 gears really start eating gas after 70 mph. The 4.30's do allow for 10th gear towing. I pull a 15k 5th wheel and pull in 10th most of the time which gets me about 8.5 mph on fairly level driving. Good video and needed info
@@LH-yq8bh what speed are you running while towing in 10th? I can get 8.5 on a flat two lane but need to keep speeds to 55-60. My fifth wheel isn’t that heavy but it has a box nose not a nice aerodynamic nose like many newer trailers.
I run 68 to 70 mph. I have heard that the 4.30 gears give better mpg at lower speeds than the 3.73 and 3.55 since many lock out 9 or 10. I can climb a slight hill in 10th. On the way to Florida on I-95 from VA I got 9 mpg by lieometer and 8.8 hand calculated.