Ford 6.7 Power Stroke Failure

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  • @mr.c.6241
    @mr.c.6241 6 місяців тому +158

    I am a Senior Master Tech at a Ford dealer and have been turning wrenches for over 38 years and one thing that grinds my gears more than anything else is getting in a vehicle that some hack wannbe tech has been into. When i am done with a customers vehicle you would be hard pressed to tell i have had it apart other than the normal telltale wittness marks on nuts and bolts. Your attention to detail along with your techs is quite impressive. Keep up the good work.

    • @chuckbuttons0699
      @chuckbuttons0699 Місяць тому +2

      I wish there were decent mechanics where I live. That'd be amazing. Also, since you have 38 years and likely know more than I could ever dream of, do you know why my 6.7 sounds like it's knocking every time I change the oil? It's kinda loud for about 500-1000 miles after the change and then goes away. I can not figure it out. It's got 350k miles and has done that since like 100k. It drives me nuts. I dread changing it every time bc I'm scared it might be the last time.

    • @calmargarita
      @calmargarita День тому

      And YOU are the reason I take my 2020 to my Ford dealer shop. Even for my very frequent oil changes.

  • @edtaylor6431
    @edtaylor6431 6 місяців тому +272

    I have a 2012 Ford F250 with the 6.7 power stroke, all factory original. I have over 610,000 trouble free miles. I take very good care of this truck and never miss a service cycle since I have owned it.

    • @DavesAutoCenterCenterville
      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville  6 місяців тому +75

      Great to hear👍. Here's to many more trouble, free miles.👏👏

    • @justinwam
      @justinwam 6 місяців тому +21

      That is a 💯 lie

    • @GarzaDiesel
      @GarzaDiesel 6 місяців тому +11

      You give me hope 😅

    • @sprint2648
      @sprint2648 6 місяців тому +30

      @@justinwamthey go the miles if taken care of

    • @AmericanSurvival001
      @AmericanSurvival001 6 місяців тому +6

      @@justinwamshhhhhhh , you will seriously screw this man’s head up , if he has to face reality (yes it’s a driveway queen )and he really did get those miles and he needs to run down to the gas station and buy Idaho lottery tickets immediately!!

  • @hernandeznick15
    @hernandeznick15 6 місяців тому +117

    Men can watch videos like this all day, keep it coming Dave! 😂

  • @wackeyful
    @wackeyful 6 місяців тому +232

    that teardown was feaking awesome, that dude was so in the zone doing his thing

    • @DavesAutoCenterCenterville
      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville  6 місяців тому +49

      You bet, that's Jason for ya. Thanks for watching.

    • @jamescornish795
      @jamescornish795 6 місяців тому +13

      Dudes knows where every bolt is before his eyes see it

    • @davidbrymer1230
      @davidbrymer1230 6 місяців тому +20

      And…..labels every bolt and files them away in a red solo cup library by the sequence he removed them. Jam up tech right there.

    • @Dragandspinn
      @Dragandspinn 5 місяців тому +4

      Facts!

    • @mikeylopez9625
      @mikeylopez9625 25 днів тому

      Except he used Ryobi cheap stuff

  • @mebordernoneya8484
    @mebordernoneya8484 6 місяців тому +288

    That tech was tearing that motor down like it owed him money!

    • @onemanshow4116
      @onemanshow4116 6 місяців тому +24

      Well, he don't get paid to be on film calling customers... so... 😂

    • @alfee9411
      @alfee9411 6 місяців тому +2

      Gettin it

    • @GVBiggs524
      @GVBiggs524 6 місяців тому +18

      It does. He has to work on it, so it owes him.

    • @kuhn4311
      @kuhn4311 6 місяців тому +8

      Why would anyone want such a complicated diesel engine that requires a whole truck tear-apart.. for a engine problem is beyond me.. Cummins is so open and accessible.. never hear of cab removal.. waterpump pop the belts and two bolts! 45 min..start too finish in a driveway.

    • @danknox8292
      @danknox8292 6 місяців тому

      Very funny!!! Well done!

  • @matthewvanorden8154
    @matthewvanorden8154 5 місяців тому +6

    Dave you are a breath of fresh air in this polluted and convoluted world we live in keep it up

  • @oldguy-db1qk
    @oldguy-db1qk 5 місяців тому +7

    I ran into this on a John Deere tractor engine. Big six cylinder and I don't remember which model it was. The tractor was a 4840. The first guy to work on it installed the cheapest brand of bearing he could find. The crank had been ground .010 oversize and had been polished correctly. But what I found was the bearings used varied in thickness. They were junk from brand new as some were thicker and some were thinner. The thicker ones pulled the the surface of the bearing off after only a very few hours and the motor lost oil pressure. The first guy "Assumed" the bearings were all the same. I am old school and all it would have taken is a strip of plasti-guage to tell the guy that something wasn't right. This is a cool video and you guys are fun to watch. I retired after 50 years so now I watch you guys and get a chuckle out of what you find.

  • @2vcrew782
    @2vcrew782 6 місяців тому +36

    Dave’s Auto is the only shop on the planet I’d trust bringing my Mustang GT to have work done and I don’t let anyone else touch my car but me. I’m a full time mechanic (not a specialist transmission guy) but I took a vacation day to bring my car in and pulled the transmission myself and replaced the clutch and throw out bearing along with all the goodies you do when it’s out. Dave’s is exactly where you want to bring a vehicle that you love and need repaired correct.

  • @markerickson8758
    @markerickson8758 6 місяців тому +12

    Hey Dave, I ground cranks every day for about 5 years. From what I see (hard to tell with a video), I agree with your diagnosis. Incorrect polishing can be a real issue. Only other thing could be if there was variance in the finished sizes of the journal/bearings. Where a big journal was paired with a thicker bearing and didn't allow for proper oil clearance

  • @greglammers9905
    @greglammers9905 6 місяців тому +16

    Dave, I have had good luck over the years with crankshaft supply in Minneapolis Minnesota doing regrind’s. Good automotive machining is getting tough to find. As a retired heavy truck/bus mechanic of 45+ years I love your channel.

  • @460mark8
    @460mark8 6 місяців тому +12

    From what I've experienced, forged steel cranks do not have ferrite and cast cranks do. You are correct on your description of polishing. While working at Ford engineering they purchased a 2011 F350 with 806K miles. I was in charge of the teardown and prior to disassembly we performed some performance checks as well as leakdown and compression with all cylinders showing about 4% leakdown and only a 10 PSI variation between them in compression. Records from the dealer the customer had their service done at showed 2 fuel injectors being replaced at 500K with nothing else being replaced on the engine including the fuel and water pumps. The 6.7 uses a secondary cooling system to cool the EGR, fuel, trans, charge air cooler and power steering in lieu on having individual heat exchangers mounted at the front. When inspection was all completed, the only out of spec found was .011mm / .0005" at the top of some bores. This engine was very well cared for by the customer.

    • @fredmitchel1236
      @fredmitchel1236 6 місяців тому

      I don't even think the factory bores to much less than 0.0005"...that is ...well I suppose it is possible...I used Sunnen CK 10 with fine stones..
      I could hit 4.125 + .030...to within 0.0003"...and even make the cylinder have a taper...

  • @seanstephens3896
    @seanstephens3896 6 місяців тому +73

    I feel this man’s pain. My wife and I bought a used 2014 F350 stroker from a local used dealer that took in on trade. I did every thing right, carfax, independent inspection, etc. we only had it nine months when it ate a lifter. While tearing it down to investigate, I started noticing rounded bolt heads, mismatched hardware. Basically, someone who shouldn’t use a wrench was in that engine and fixed it enough for the guy to trade it in and run away with a newer truck. I never yelled at the dealer cause they were just as much a victim as I was, but $25K later and a new long block from Ford. I wish I would have known about you first cause “my friend” didn’t really do me any favors and left coolant clamps loose. Easy fix for me, but he’ll never touch my vehicles again.

    • @DavesAutoCenterCenterville
      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville  6 місяців тому +20

      Sounds like you did a good effort on checking on the vehicle before purchase. It's to bad we can't get all the maintenance and repair records on vehicles for a better picture

    • @kfrench201
      @kfrench201 6 місяців тому

      Buying a used diesel is like marrying a prostitute

    • @seanstephens3896
      @seanstephens3896 6 місяців тому +21

      It’s just sad the level of dishonesty there is in this industry. I had the brake power block replaced on my wife’s 07 Navigator at Young Ford Ogden and they only hand tightened the lines on the block. Severe negligence at best. Who really needs the brakes to stop right. When I went in with the video proof from another mechanic they denied it was their fault. That’s why I like your videos, straight shooting no BS.

    • @chucklohnes7652
      @chucklohnes7652 6 місяців тому

      Not sure where the hell you guys are getting raped for a motor. My brother just blew his up at 300 thou and bitched to Ford about not being able to get a motor right away and they expedited a motor for $6800 granted that’s doing the work yourself but a lot better than 22 thou.

    • @mr8610
      @mr8610 6 місяців тому +2

      Nobody goes through life without having that expensive "Oopsie" moment -- just think of that $25,000 as a lesson learned and how much more knowledge you've gained that you'll be able to pass on to others.

  • @utterlyexiged
    @utterlyexiged 6 місяців тому +10

    The engineering that goes into a modern engine is mind blowing

  • @Ocboy420
    @Ocboy420 5 місяців тому +8

    Dave & his crew are definitely top notch when it comes to knowledge & quality. Love watching & learning from any & all of your videos

  • @SRPNH
    @SRPNH 6 місяців тому +6

    It’s amazing the amount of work and time that goes into teardown to find out the problem

  • @wakemanfam4143
    @wakemanfam4143 6 місяців тому +4

    I think I've already cycled through almost all of Dave's videos. This is a company that I could go and work for free just to learn and tap into the mind of greatness. Keep them coming Dave!

  • @berns_pratt
    @berns_pratt 6 місяців тому +84

    I love the teardown montage. Very interesting!

  • @KarlBobo-y4m
    @KarlBobo-y4m 6 місяців тому +3

    I am no modern day mechanic by no means. I think you nailed it when you said cheap parts and bad workmanship. There’s no doubt in my mind. You guys will get it right love your videos y’all keep turning riches.

  • @rickwoods5384
    @rickwoods5384 6 місяців тому +45

    Hey Dave, the cleaning guy at Jim's Automotive Service near Fort Collins seems to do a great job grinding cranks among other machining and assembly tasks. He is old school but not shy of new technology and is passing his lifetime of learning to his son. I think you two would get along great!

    • @DavesAutoCenterCenterville
      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville  6 місяців тому +18

      Sounds great! Some others in the community have mentioned this as well.👍

    • @redmondjp
      @redmondjp 6 місяців тому +9

      @@DavesAutoCenterCenterville You two are kindred spirits and should get acquainted with each other. Both of your channels are doing tremendous education for future shop owners, technicians and machinists. We need to keep this knowledge base going in this country!

    • @ToxicMisfitsYt
      @ToxicMisfitsYt 6 місяців тому +2

      Great people

    • @projectdirtbikes
      @projectdirtbikes 4 місяці тому

      They sold out to shady sponsorships though.

  • @vMaxHeadroom
    @vMaxHeadroom 28 днів тому

    UK viewer who loves cars but is not a mechanic and can't help but be mesmorised by the work you guys do. The skill and knowledge involved in working with these engines and vehicles is immense!

  • @jimm2442
    @jimm2442 6 місяців тому +13

    I am a retired mechanic (ASE Certified Master Technician with CA Test and Repair Smog License) with over 35 years of on the job experience. I really appreciate your channel and the videos you make. I love "Condition, Cause, Correction and Confirm." That is so important and the basic foundation of how a problem should be approached and repaired. I have a few questions and value / appreciate your time to answer: How are the GM L5P's Diesels and "Allison" 10L100'0's holding up? What are you seeing as far as issues with them? On the 6.7 Fords are you seeing much in the way of CP4 failures? Thank you so much, I look forward to future videos especially the follow ups.

    • @TLhike
      @TLhike 4 місяці тому

      S&S diesel has a new pump to replace the cp4 nightmare.

  • @kyleinman8017
    @kyleinman8017 6 місяців тому +38

    Jason is the man. Dailed in, didn’t give a shit about the cameras. True professional

    • @simonbailey2151
      @simonbailey2151 6 місяців тому +3

      His disinterest in the filming makes him the perfect presenter, really. Top work Jason.

    • @MrKennyanders
      @MrKennyanders 6 місяців тому +1

      Do you think the Discovery Network thing is going to happen.

    • @nickkiosk5513
      @nickkiosk5513 6 місяців тому +5

      @@MrKennyanders i stayed up to date on all their announcements and last i heard / seen anything mentioned about it seems like they cancelled the whole show because the discovery writers wanted to add scripted / fake scenarios in the show and Dave was not having it. Props to him in my opinion, we watch these videos to see and learn nobody here wants there to be reality TV show elements added / drama.

  • @jopanet
    @jopanet 6 місяців тому +30

    Looks like a world class shop, the owner is actually involved in the repairs. Thats pretty awesome, I hope they get the show deal from discovery.

    • @johnsmircic6650
      @johnsmircic6650 6 місяців тому +8

      NOOOOOO, once you do the show deal, they Try to dictate every aspect of your business. Don’t do it!

  • @jonathangheen7498
    @jonathangheen7498 День тому

    Dave, thank you for sharing the work you do on Poweretrokes. Ive been a follower for a long time. Also have been able to better maintain my trucks thanks to you and your team's attention to mechanical details and sharing absolutely every step of the way. As a sole proprietor engine builder (tractors) I am taking notes on your Cause, Correction, Confirm methodology. I would love to be a part of your team but my parents living here in Northern Virginia keeps me here. My sister lives there in Utah and I would be blessed to visit your shop one day. My father and I own 4- 7.3 Powerstrokes of which we will never get rid of. Also I've my personal truck a 16' 6.7L. You are an excellent metor and Im blessed to have found one that I look up to!

  • @samd7601
    @samd7601 6 місяців тому +5

    Dave im gonna give you a little tip! When you go to stick that engine back in, you leave it in a freezer overnight. Fits nice, runs like a dream👌

  • @artof1self
    @artof1self 6 місяців тому +7

    Dave’s One of my favorite channels & Bellos Kustoms channel! Better than Anything on TV.

  • @ArghIsThisHandleTaken
    @ArghIsThisHandleTaken 6 місяців тому +242

    I never understood why people modify their shit half-assed and then are shocked when shit breaks down.

    • @AmericanSurvival001
      @AmericanSurvival001 6 місяців тому +9

      Well, actually with power strokes that kind of modified from the factory transmission is modified to only go about 125,000 miles before rebuilding if you tow with it 80,000 those are facts

    • @ciscorodriguez757
      @ciscorodriguez757 6 місяців тому +9

      Ignorance/ego.

    • @removefromme
      @removefromme 6 місяців тому +4

      See it all the time with boats. Being cheap will always cost you more.

    • @cyumadbrosummit3534
      @cyumadbrosummit3534 6 місяців тому +15

      @@AmericanSurvival001 What are you talking about? Ford makes the best transmission in the business right now. It's industry consensus.

    • @robertpsotka3525
      @robertpsotka3525 6 місяців тому +6

      I agree, many people buy a whole bunch of aftermarket performance parts that cancel each other out and you have gained nothing but headaches

  • @brianweber6358
    @brianweber6358 4 місяці тому +1

    I love watching a channel where you actually learn something. This is one of those. Thanks

  • @zaphodbeeblebrox1880
    @zaphodbeeblebrox1880 6 місяців тому +27

    Never ceases to amaze me how these Ford (probably others) diesel V8's are like a rubber band ball. The sheer number of bits, pieces, and harnesses that are just woven all over the engine is incredible.The amount of disassembly that has to happen before a regular guy like me can identify it as a long or short block is amazing.

    • @thomaslascola9683
      @thomaslascola9683 6 місяців тому +2

      Diesels need more components to run well as it isn't a ignition based.. not to mention alot of it is for the envoirment protection agencies rules to make diesel more eco friendly.

    • @billyc5914
      @billyc5914 6 місяців тому +12

      Emission regulations killed the good old days.

    • @mikem9058
      @mikem9058 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@@billyc5914All hail the 7.3

    • @gb4408
      @gb4408 6 місяців тому

      At 4.11 in this video I felt traumatised. All this nonsense because it uses a ridiculous fuel. At 2024 we shouldn't be using diesel.

    • @mikem9058
      @mikem9058 6 місяців тому +4

      @@gb4408 Why not? Diesel engines are 100% fuel efficient, gas engines aren't.

  • @vanderpoolfarmsl.l.c.9983
    @vanderpoolfarmsl.l.c.9983 2 місяці тому +1

    As a new subscriber and a small fleet owner, I want to thank you for your EXCELLENT videos. Very well done and informative. Thank You!!

  • @Occuria1
    @Occuria1 6 місяців тому +32

    The ferrite burr explanation! Thanks for that! I never knew.

    • @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
      @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 6 місяців тому +4

      A crank is ground based on it's direction of rotation, too. A LH rotating crank will be ground (and polished) in the opposite direction.

    • @DavesAutoCenterCenterville
      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville  6 місяців тому +5

      Happy to help!

    • @dans_Learning_Curve
      @dans_Learning_Curve 6 місяців тому +1

      Something I had known but forgotten.

    • @overbuiltautomotive1299
      @overbuiltautomotive1299 6 місяців тому +1

      @@DavesAutoCenterCenterville from what I have read forged steel cranks do not have burrs like and cast cranks do directional polishing matters on them but do polishing all the same an no issues any how . just figured i ramble a bit i vote cheap parts bad mechanic sillycon mess helped 2

  • @brandonmajcher3273
    @brandonmajcher3273 6 місяців тому +9

    Hey Dave the aftermarket is a filter for the the cp4 pump in case is exploded it catches alot of the metal preventing the tank and other stuff from being replaced they call it a disaster relief kit.

    • @aaronglaser
      @aaronglaser 6 місяців тому

      Not sure how or why he didn’t know that. The weld on EGR plate is great!

    • @tdotw77
      @tdotw77 6 місяців тому +1

      Dave, It's a S&S DPK -a Disaster(CP4 making metal sending it to entire fuel sys)Prevention Kit. Keeps CP4 failure from causing $10k in damage. It's the BEST insurance you can put on a 6.7 to prevent the disaster. S&S also makes the DCR Pump to replace the CP4 completely getting rid of that pos problem all together. Very simple swap, new pump actually flows a little bit more fuel and everything else is bolt-on parts. Any one with a 6.7 CP4 should have one or the other on their trucks unless they like spending $10k replacing entire fuel system!

    • @chucklohnes7652
      @chucklohnes7652 6 місяців тому +2

      Just put a DCR pump from S&S diesel and totally eliminate the CP4 then you’ll have a good truck minus the emissions also.

    • @aaronglaser
      @aaronglaser 6 місяців тому +1

      Installed one today on my 6.7

  • @luisvillanueva6492
    @luisvillanueva6492 6 місяців тому +2

    You guys are awesome I can't believe you guys do so much work like that there are no mechanics like that anymore it is so special and awesome to see someone that actually gives a crap about what they do for their customers especially when you paid so much money you guys are taking care of it like it was your own car

  • @briansweet5614
    @briansweet5614 6 місяців тому +57

    Dave, the best crank grinder is at Jim’s Automotive Machine Shop. They’re a small family business running since 1983 and have a great UA-cam channel also.

    • @VC-Toronto
      @VC-Toronto 6 місяців тому +7

      It would be interesting for them to do a joint video that both platforms can publish. A detailed look at crank grinding, failure points, best practices etc.

    • @shaolinfist8323
      @shaolinfist8323 6 місяців тому +3

      My 2 favourite machine shop channels

    • @VC-Toronto
      @VC-Toronto 6 місяців тому +4

      @@shaolinfist8323 Don't forget Keith Fenner and ABOM79. Slightly different subject matter, but both masters at their craft who lead by example on the right way to do things.

    • @DavesAutoCenterCenterville
      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville  6 місяців тому +18

      Appreciate the feedback guys 👍. Very helpful

    • @zedhead2864
      @zedhead2864 6 місяців тому

      @@shaolinfist8323 Cutting Edge Engineering ua-cam.com/video/CfR94njAV2s/v-deo.html

  • @kingranch8516
    @kingranch8516 6 місяців тому +9

    Great episode Dave. When my boss 6.2 goes it’s coming the 2000 miles to you!

    • @full---movie
      @full---movie 6 місяців тому +1

      6.2 Boss is awesome. Just buy a new one and drop it in, still cheaper than replacing the injectors on a 6.7

  • @jaycolon5116
    @jaycolon5116 6 місяців тому +5

    Best friends dad gave me his 04 Silverado LS and man I’m super lucky, he’s a retired fire fighter so he took insanely good care of it and one of the things that he did was write down EVERY single thing he’s done to it, every tire change/ rotation, oil change and any parts he’s fixed. It has zero leaks and noises and drives like a dream, gave it to me for 1500 too so yeah he hooked me up

    • @willg.5168
      @willg.5168 6 місяців тому +1

      That 5.3 is a frik'n gem of a motor 👍🏽

  • @wingman8447
    @wingman8447 6 місяців тому +2

    That was a mess. It’s tough when businesses need their vehicles and put off proper repair. Great analysis and rebuild. Thanks.

    • @Bluecedor
      @Bluecedor Місяць тому +1

      It’s not just businesses. Even private owners can’t just stop using the vehicle because it’s their main and they don’t have a second or third vehicle to use in the mean time, or spend hundreds if not thousands on a rental. It can take 3 weeks to 2 months to get an appointment for a Ford certified master tech to look at a Power Stroke, possibly even longer for a busted transmission. And certain dealers can do services that most others can’t. And after diagnosis and the owner giving them the go-ahead, it could take 2-3 days to a week before it’s back in the owner’s hands.
      Diesel truck ownership is no joke and people sign up for a much different and more expensive ownership experience compared to gas.

  • @Crypto666
    @Crypto666 6 місяців тому +199

    Remember the good old days when you could work on your own truck drunk, not have to remove the cab, and when you sobered up you could financially afford to fix it again?

    • @theman9907
      @theman9907 6 місяців тому +8

      Sad it’s become complicated… who’s at fault.

    • @crispoulson8830
      @crispoulson8830 6 місяців тому +10

      I could sit on the radiator, put a foot on each frame rail and work on the shade of the hood.

    • @OTEP1234567891011
      @OTEP1234567891011 6 місяців тому +22

      @@theman9907
      The EPA, mainly.

    • @lonewolf744
      @lonewolf744 6 місяців тому

      😂😂

    • @johnantonopoulous6381
      @johnantonopoulous6381 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@OTEP1234567891011 No it's not. People need to stop asking for 600hp trucks. A 74 c30 dully made about 275hp gross to the wheels it was about 210 from a 427 big block. . How much more reliable do you think it could be if people are okay with having a 200 horsepower truck.

  • @nonyadamnbiznezz9704
    @nonyadamnbiznezz9704 6 місяців тому +1

    I want to see a full video of a diesel break down and complete rebuild, idc if it’s 6 hours. I love this channel.

  • @peterodushkin8434
    @peterodushkin8434 6 місяців тому +8

    You guys do make it look easy, but that comes with years of experience. Thank you for awesome video. Have good day 👍

  • @chadwaters259
    @chadwaters259 2 місяці тому

    I watch you all tear those engines apart and it absolutely amazes me that you can remember how to put them back together. I did a head gasket on a Jeep 4 cylinder and have to take notes and label everything.

  • @danielgentry6759
    @danielgentry6759 6 місяців тому +6

    Hi Dave, great video, thank you for wearing gloves when tearing down the motor. We love you and we need you. Keep up the good work.

  • @lchope573
    @lchope573 19 днів тому

    So under appreciated these mechanics. From me to you thank you for what you do! Glad this platform is out there to show it!

  • @cjespers
    @cjespers 6 місяців тому +6

    Opportunity knocks! Love your videos Dave. You rock!

  • @Mr.J345
    @Mr.J345 6 місяців тому

    The amount of detail I see you guys do on any engine that comes in is refreshing. I don’t know how many shops I’ve seen just throw stuff together to get it out of the shop.

  • @leviguerra858
    @leviguerra858 6 місяців тому +9

    Good to know that super hero MEN are still out doing good in world while I’m having spine surgery on Memorial Day. Thank you Dave for producing excellent content and excellent product.

    • @GrammarPoliceInvestigations
      @GrammarPoliceInvestigations 6 місяців тому +1

      Best of luck on that surgery. I had mine a few weeks ago and it fixed me, thank God!

    • @DavesAutoCenterCenterville
      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville  6 місяців тому +1

      Best of luck to you with the spinal surgery. I had my neck surgery about 10 years ago and it's been great results.👍

  • @davidbertrand6884
    @davidbertrand6884 4 місяці тому

    Absolutely love that bumper 💪🏻
    That’s kool how the body is lifted off…WOW 👍🏻
    Dave I love watching 🫵🏻R videos ‼️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
    In June 2017, I bought an 2014 Ford F150 V6, which had 34k miles. It’s got 2 regular doors and 2 other doors that open like the suicide type. It’s sun set metal flake color, ( Copperish ). It now has 96k miles, and I just 🫶🏻 my truck. I had left knee replacement on July 2, 2024, and haven’t been able to drive it till a day or so ago. Filled it with Tier 3 gas, and even though it’s really hot here in Louisiana ( heat index 110 ) running 60 mph it got 21.5 mpg , with A/C on max. Nothing in the long wheelbase bed. I’ve named my truck RUSTY….. THANKS DAVE FOR YOUR VIDEOS, THEY ARE OUTSTANDING ‼️ Wish there were vehicle repair shops of your quality way down here in Pineville, La. 👏👏👏👏💪🏻🇺🇸
    8/16/2024

  • @johnliford6184
    @johnliford6184 6 місяців тому +23

    You need to upgrade the lighting in that shop. Those guys deserve a well lit shop to work in. They work hard as hell.

    • @culdeus9559
      @culdeus9559 6 місяців тому +4

      Get more tired with fake CFL lights. Wear a headlamp in daylight as needed.

  • @gronniergilles6458
    @gronniergilles6458 6 місяців тому +5

    Always interesting to hear you Dave. Good job. Have a good memorial day tomorrow. I will think to all thé Guy who came's in Normandy to keep my grand parent's free. Thanks to us

    • @loerber
      @loerber 6 місяців тому

      Dave celebrated Memorial Day two weeks ago

  • @darrensamuels1511
    @darrensamuels1511 6 місяців тому +3

    Dave you are a man of integrity and honour there needs to be more men like you Sir. I am a Boilermaker intermediate Rigger and I definitely go out of my road to do the job right the first time the way it should be done. 🙏🇦🇺👨‍🏭

  • @terrydtdi
    @terrydtdi 5 місяців тому

    Wow great video Dave. It’s great watching technicians that are at the top of their game. Appreciate you filling us all in on the probable cause and methods of proper engine building practices.

  • @randymeeks8684
    @randymeeks8684 6 місяців тому +19

    Hey Dave. Glad to see you wearing gloves. Your mechanic wasn’t and because I suffer from liver issues from being the same kind of guy as your mechanic I am very concerned for his future wellness. You sir Dave would be the best shop owner if you require that from your mechanics. It would show you care about their health… biggest mistake of my life and I share because I care

    • @brettdaley5497
      @brettdaley5497 6 місяців тому +3

      Dang man , Never heard of such a thing!! wish the best for you and may God be with you through you journey!

  • @joebrings5817
    @joebrings5817 3 місяці тому +2

    My 2020 f350 dually 6.7 has 419k miles and still hotshot daily w it. Oil changes every 8k w 5/40 rotella. She’s a beast still running strong . I pull up to 28k behind it all day everyday

  • @tct9mm151
    @tct9mm151 6 місяців тому +6

    WOW! 6 bolt mains in that 6.7! Crazy
    Imagine, the Cummins still only has a 2 bolt main AND it makes the same power with 2 less cylinders..... And I'm a Ford guy.
    GREAT VIDEO GUYS

    • @brettdaley5497
      @brettdaley5497 6 місяців тому

      cummins is up to 400 hp powerstroke 450-475 and made to make more!! why you see the 6 bolt main and graphite block.

    • @brettdaley5497
      @brettdaley5497 6 місяців тому

      My 6.7 kingstroke make 700hp 1400ftlb torque

  • @gregoryh4601
    @gregoryh4601 Місяць тому +1

    This is the Kind of Boss you want to Work with and at His Shop. This Boss is a True Team Leader. 👍

  • @PeeterPuncher
    @PeeterPuncher 6 місяців тому +38

    Big boy toys...big boy repair bills. This kind of stuff makes me like my well maintained- high mileage GAS truck even more.

    • @johnsalcido5436
      @johnsalcido5436 6 місяців тому +6

      Well if you think about- people who should be driving these trucks are people doing commercial or their own business type of work who generate higher income on a daily basis. They will pay 15-20k for a new motor and maybe get that money back within a few days or weeks. At the end of the day these trucks make people a lot of money but at the same time cost a lot more to repair and maintain good.
      I never had luck with gas trucks. They are usually problem free up to around 200-300k they give out and you literally have to replace every part that's not the interior or the frame after that mileage.
      Diesels last way longer and pay off and make you more money. And are cheaper in the long run especially if you drive and tow and work with equipment ALOT. Just my opinion though.

    • @willysnowman
      @willysnowman 6 місяців тому +1

      @Selsigs ok lady

    • @Edizzle15
      @Edizzle15 3 місяці тому

      Agreed. My 2013 5.0 F-150 with only 87k will be my last vehicle for YEARS.

  • @iconicszn735
    @iconicszn735 5 місяців тому

    bro ive got to give respect to the camera guy or who ever had the idea to have this good of a camera and the editor not much editing but uploading at 2160p is nice

  • @jasonkubitz9410
    @jasonkubitz9410 6 місяців тому +4

    Another great video. I have a 2017 with the 6.7 Scorpion and although I'm on my 3rd upper oil pan leak, I love the truck. She pulls my toy hauler like a champ up the steep grades here in SoCal to the desert. Now, I only have 76K miles on her but I'm sure she'll go many more since I change my oil every 5K miles or every year. Which ever comes first. In my opinion, I think the Ford 6.7 Scorpion is the best of the newer desiels out there.

  • @safn1949
    @safn1949 6 місяців тому

    I was a GM tech in 1988, making $11 and hour ,flat rate. It sucked, I quit turning wrenches in late 89 and went to driving truck. You have some good mechanics, Dave.

  • @TheGrumpySkipper
    @TheGrumpySkipper 6 місяців тому +6

    I find these videos so amazing
    What quality of craftsmanship and integrity
    Lifting bodies off frames as easy as opening a door. Would love to see a video of that process
    Best to Dave and the Crew
    John

    • @DavesAutoCenterCenterville
      @DavesAutoCenterCenterville  6 місяців тому +1

      Sounds good, will see if we can film that for ya👍

    • @TheGrumpySkipper
      @TheGrumpySkipper 6 місяців тому

      @@DavesAutoCenterCenterville Thank you sir

    • @ronsullivan132
      @ronsullivan132 6 місяців тому

      The first I saw that a few weeks ago, lifting the cab up and away I was thinking what a lot of work. But then when I thought about it, it is a lot less work compared to pulling the motor through the hood if that is even possible.

    • @robertmintz63
      @robertmintz63 2 місяці тому

      Worked at Toyota Fremont Ca for 20 yrs ; the frame comes along conveyer line upside down , they put the wheels , gas tank in goes to a lifter ,up , then rolls over , picked up by carrier , goes to another lifter , down into the front wheel alineer ,out around to a diff line , down , add more stuff , lower the engine & tranny in , then the bed, then the cab , lifted up goes round to new line , add the brake fluid, - wheels- emblems - set down on floor conveyor add doors , go through water test - add the underbody coating , paint protection plastic , drive to parking lot , then rattle check on wash board track, back to parking lot ready for transport

  • @EvanGSadler
    @EvanGSadler 6 місяців тому +1

    Dave, I enjoy your videos. Great content to unwind to after a long day of work. Please wear your seatbelt when you are test driving. Love your content and don't want you or anyone at the shop to get hurt. Thank you

  • @duckwacker8720
    @duckwacker8720 6 місяців тому +19

    All it needs is a proper tune. It absolutely does not need a dpf or egr.

  • @zburkst2928
    @zburkst2928 6 місяців тому

    I love seeing the cab come off.
    really great video, love seeing the thorough inspections after a failure

  • @sats7819
    @sats7819 6 місяців тому +32

    Dave is a leader. Not a boss. Cummins Milton Keynes in the UK need to take note!

    • @Sham1r0
      @Sham1r0 6 місяців тому +1

      well said mate

    • @Russell_1987
      @Russell_1987 6 місяців тому +1

      Now that's a comment

  • @rickjones6798
    @rickjones6798 6 місяців тому +1

    You guys are just awesome I wish we had somebody here in Michigan that knew enough about vehicles like you do but awesome video

  • @garthvader801
    @garthvader801 6 місяців тому +249

    Not surprising to me. My 6.7 powerstroke blew up at 89,000 mi and was just out of warranty. $22,000 for a new engine.

    • @reallyemptypockets6509
      @reallyemptypockets6509 6 місяців тому +21

      W T F💰

    • @Acrowat40
      @Acrowat40 6 місяців тому +16

      Wild - sorry to hear that man...

    • @sounboy4498
      @sounboy4498 6 місяців тому +31

      Where on earth are you buying that engine for 22k?? Im a ford tech just curious

    • @garthvader801
      @garthvader801 6 місяців тому

      @@sounboy4498 from Ford. Gillette diesel did the work

    • @garthvader801
      @garthvader801 6 місяців тому +54

      @@sounboy4498 I guess I should clarify. The engine with labor was 22K

  • @normanmusimwa2058
    @normanmusimwa2058 6 місяців тому

    Here l am..... I live on a continent were (some) of these cars/trucks don't exist, l know nothing about cars/trucks........ yet, l watch most of your content. Love it! #Zimbabwe

  • @Mr19853
    @Mr19853 6 місяців тому +15

    That silicon plugged up the oil pick up.

  • @rlfedler
    @rlfedler 6 місяців тому +2

    Dave, I like your content and I love your professional, caring attitude … 😊

  • @sounboy4498
    @sounboy4498 6 місяців тому +7

    That engine was just worked o based on how clean it looks and from the oil pan so clean and fresh silicone. Alot of time's I've seen engine failures right after poor prior repairs.

  • @Chuckousley
    @Chuckousley 5 місяців тому +1

    Dave, great nightmare music on the disassembly. Lol i like that. Great vids. Love to watch!

  • @devinortiz777
    @devinortiz777 6 місяців тому +6

    Gotta do a full vid on a 6.0 powerstroke!

  • @johnevans1969
    @johnevans1969 6 місяців тому

    Mercy that's alot of wrenching! Gentleman is skilled and earning that pay! Impressive sir.

  • @40ozdon
    @40ozdon 6 місяців тому +4

    Regardless of how high the common opinion of the reliability of a motor is, there are still always going to be engine failures. The 6.7 powerstroke has a pretty good reputation overall but like everything else it has its flaws

    • @ashes2ashes863
      @ashes2ashes863 6 місяців тому

      Actually one of the local outfits close to where I work has a ton of them as fleet vehicles and statistically speaking, no they're not really reliable at all. They've had plenty of engine issues including two hardcore failures well before 100,000 MI, so many that they actually ordered a few Godzillas this last time around and then they were part of the issues that they had with the ignition systems on those and for 6 months, two of those trucks say unusable. The good news is they're learning. The two of six Godzillas have been replaced with two 6.6 lit gmcs. Soon to be more

    • @40ozdon
      @40ozdon 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ashes2ashes863 Weird, the company I work for has 10+ 6.7s and haven’t had a single catastrophic engine failure since 2016 when they were bought brand new (with some of them recently hitting 300k) but hey, “statistically speaking” is very subjective.
      And for the record, I am NOT a ford guy but those trucks have impressed me.

  • @mjmcomputers
    @mjmcomputers 6 місяців тому +1

    I tore a fb marketplace engine apart. It appeared it had been rebuilt but the rod caps were not marked so I marked all the caps, pulled the rod bearings out and they all looked pretty trashed, but cranked looked fine. After getting everything back from the machine shop, I assembled it and as soon as I torqued down the rod caps the engine was hard to turn. Tore it all back down and found that the previous “rebuilder” had mixed up all the rod caps, that was why the bearings were trashed. It took some time with a magnifying glass but I was able to match up the rods to the correct caps by lining up the machining marks. Put it all back together and it rotated just fine. I’m not sure how many miles they had on it after the rebuild but it had to have been really tight.

  • @StoicJason
    @StoicJason 6 місяців тому +7

    Watching Dave’s channel has removed all desire I had to own a diesel.

    • @tdotw77
      @tdotw77 6 місяців тому +3

      Every single engine ever produced has some kind of problems. Operator error or lack of maintenance is the number one problem with any engine! This 6.7 scorpion engine has been produced since 2011 and there are literally millions of them out on the road every single day. Being there are sooo many out there you are bound to see them come into a repair shop from time to time simply based on sheer volume that's out on the road. It is a really good engine other that the Bosch CP4 fuel pump and the emissions equipment bs on it DPF, EGR, SCR, etc that choke it & cause more problems that their worth. Taking them off dramatically improves longevity & fuel economy (20+mpg). Diesels are just like other engines, they need their maintenance done religiously. Do oil changes & fuel filters regularly at 5k mile intervals & problems don't happen. There are many diesel trucks with close to a million miles or even more out there on the road doing cross country hotshot deliveries daily. Diesel is the lifeblood of the country & the world. Everything gets moved by diesel power -trucks, ships, trains, etc.

    • @ronsullivan132
      @ronsullivan132 6 місяців тому

      @@tdotw77 Stripping an engine of outside systems only works if you live in a state that does not have emission testing.

  • @JeanArcand-y4y
    @JeanArcand-y4y 18 днів тому

    It’s a real shame that the bean counters at motor companies always end up ruining the quality of great products. Not the first time or the last.
    Thanks for pointing it out.

  • @wolley2012
    @wolley2012 6 місяців тому +19

    Homie aint playin tearing that thing apart. Even with the Ryobi.

    • @christopherwebber1104
      @christopherwebber1104 6 місяців тому +8

      Snap on doesn't make you a better mechanic, all you snap on buyers thank you for supporting that expensive truck.

    • @AdrianMcDaid
      @AdrianMcDaid 6 місяців тому +1

      The question should be why is Mechanics forced as employee to buy own tools.

    • @wolley2012
      @wolley2012 6 місяців тому +2

      For an impact driver I wouldn't go snap on or Ryobi.

    • @cliffordmontana4562
      @cliffordmontana4562 6 місяців тому +5

      Who cares what brand tools he uses?

    • @ciscorodriguez757
      @ciscorodriguez757 6 місяців тому

      @@cliffordmontana4562you will when you use them to make a living.

  • @kc9937
    @kc9937 3 місяці тому

    So good to see guys who take pride in their work.

  • @DNGJustSnakes
    @DNGJustSnakes 6 місяців тому +3

    If you're in southeast Idaho...Troy's machine in rigby is a perfectionist machinist.

  • @ZMAN_420
    @ZMAN_420 6 місяців тому

    I like the music that plays during the engine tear down. Great video Dave. I didn't know the difference between the oil pans, that's very interesting. Ford is doing that to save money for sure.👍🏻🇺🇲

  • @Sham1r0
    @Sham1r0 6 місяців тому +4

    Great video, as always.

  • @Mr1965impala
    @Mr1965impala 6 місяців тому

    I really enjoy your videos Dave, and I appreciate the work you do and the quality you deliver to your customers.

  • @JackieJoiner-mk4lv
    @JackieJoiner-mk4lv 5 днів тому

    Another great job Dave and company!❤️

  • @DavidLeane-cp2lz
    @DavidLeane-cp2lz 6 місяців тому +2

    Another interesting video. Thanks, Dave.

  • @j.ross2427
    @j.ross2427 6 місяців тому

    Dave, Great comment on the documentation of all that you notice not working and systems being modified. In my word of maintaining multiple types of propulsion systems, I call it CYA, (Cover your assets). Also, having a tuner on a truck is not the best idea. Some portions of the tune will give you better mileage, some tune adjustments will create havoc on the engine or the transmission. Why risk the havoc, use the truck as it was intended within its intended capacities.

  • @paceauto5382
    @paceauto5382 6 місяців тому +17

    These guys are motors surgeons💯😂😂😂

  • @danielcadnum7214
    @danielcadnum7214 5 місяців тому +1

    The RSC cups with the post it notes in them for the bolts is genius. And, a plus when you are finished with it on Friday and Dave brings in the keg of Coors for you all employees you can all have an RSC cup slug of beer 🍻 on Dave. Of course you will need to rinse them out first and have Dave take you home in his minivan if you fill the RSCs up more than twice. Cheers 🍻 😊

  • @sounboy4498
    @sounboy4498 6 місяців тому +4

    Ford tech here love the channel

  • @MrKennyanders
    @MrKennyanders 6 місяців тому

    The gentleman at the Mercedes dealership said congags on the show, does this mean Discovery is happening? Your wife will understand the 2 door and that they no longer make 4 door cars. Sorry that I do not miss working in shops more than 2 minutes at the start of the videos. Love you guys.

  • @julianpenn2889
    @julianpenn2889 6 місяців тому +3

    Whole lotta hokiness... Love seeing it all taken care of 👌👌👌

  • @nascardrawings7700
    @nascardrawings7700 5 місяців тому +1

    5:15 so how do the pieces of silicone get past an oil filter? Wouldn’t the pieces have to go through an oil filter to get to the piston squirter?

  • @miketaylor6282
    @miketaylor6282 6 місяців тому +7

    Did anyone else see all the Super Mario Brothers gold coins floating up and disappear the entire time they were working on the engine? 😀

  • @candyman1967
    @candyman1967 2 місяці тому +1

    Dave
    I see the newer Fords increased the oil capacity from 12 to 15 quarts of oil. Is this to take care of the oil pump inlet lines. With oil above the lines it wont be starved on start up 👍🤷‍♂️

  • @forreststrong797
    @forreststrong797 6 місяців тому +3

    It is incredibly difficult to find good work nowadays. I have a pretty high standard, sometimes people make fun of me a little for it but I'm picky and my being picky works good for me. I literally can't find a machine shop in my area that does acceptable work they just do stupid things and ruin parts. I am knowledgeable enough to check their work and it's usually trash. I've worked at German shops on higher end German cars then the Volkswagen Audi dealer as a tech for a bit then I've worked at private shops on all sorts of things even on semi trucks for a bit but mostly passenger cars and trucks etc.. I actually like Chrysler products maybe not all of them but I'm also a jeep guy as a hobby and I'm very familiar with certain models. Last time I needed machine work done I had a short block for a jeep 4.0 that was rebuilt some years ago I've ran it in my personal jeep and it's a good engine but I wanted to put a fresh head on it because it had a bad seat and was also the wrong casting number for that block but I really wanted that engine going again so I figured they can't mess up a iron jeep head but boy I was wrong they ruined 2 heads luckily I have a large stash of parts but one of the heads was a really nice casting I was pretty upset not only was the valve job horrible and the head still dirty and full of carbon they crashed their machine into the thermostat gasket surface I don't even know how you do that then they said they couldn't fix it because it won't fit in their machine but I tried explaining you can't fix that if you mill it flat again I'd have to run a spacer to get clearance back and it's not how i do things. Then the other head was just so bad after they were done I scrapped it and learned my lesson it's kinda like when I have McDonald's every 6 months to a year the fries are good but I get a gut ache and realize why I dont go again. I used to be able to use local places and get work done and assemble an engine myself but I just can't get the work done locally anymore so I have other ways of getting things done I've cleaned up heads and lapped valves by hand and done valve seals or I know a couple places across the country I can mail stuff too. Don't even get me started on transmissions, when I started out I could get reliable rebuilt transmissions sometimes I'd find problems but not like you do today. Even those real expensive purple transmissions I've installed for people in dodge trucks and found problems like really dumb problems and serious problems. I started having to do repairs myself and I learned over the years with a lot of things to never give up the core until you know that your new part is good that has saved me when I end up just doing the rebuild it's much easier for me to take apart a core and rebuild it myself than to take apart a rebuilt transmission and try to fix someone else's screw up. But a few years ago I met an awesome transmission guy who works out of a little shop on his property he's highly knowledgeable and has become my friend. I love bringing him stuff and he lets me work with him on my stuff when I want something custom or I have an idea and he lets me do carry outs he's one of those guys that just spews knowledge. I love meeting and learning things from guys who are so good at what they do, and he understands how hard it is to get good parts and he is like me with his part sourcing so I trust him to find me stuff or if he says a used original would be better than new.
    I have a couple places I can work with through the mail I also have some friends that help me a little but I can't really do certain things on customer cars anymore in a reasonable amount of time because of the unreliable machine work and I'm not willing to half ass anything I want to make things better. One of my Hobby's other than jeeps is vintage dirt bikes and I found a guy locally who builds race engines for boats I'm not familiar with the boats or what he does exactly like what race team or where they race but I think he says they are mercury and he says they are 100k dollar engines the boats are really cool but he has a private shop and I have him do my bike stuff like crank rebuilding and some cylinder work I've also brought him my jet ski stuff. I also have another friend who has a mill in his garage and he does some stuff for me every now and then. But all that being said I can't just Google a machine shop and bring stuff there because of the high risk of things going wrong especially when it's a rare part I work with some very rare parts sometimes.
    I can think of a few places that have gone out of business over the years that I did good business with. One thing I'm sure other mechanics are familiar with is how horrible reman alternators and starters can be I think O'Reilly is the worst offender. I won't install an alternator or starter in a vehicle anymore unless I source it. I found a place called DC power they make high quality alternators even with fancy billet case options thats what I run in my Jeep. But why I mention this is we used to have a wrecking yard somewhat locally and they would rebuild alternators and starters and even do custom upgrades like higher output and this was built with new parts they just happened to be a wrecking yard too. I used them a hand full of times and I had a friend who used them a bunch but I really wish they were still around it was really cheap too like stupid cheap. But I'd love to be able to use someone like that again but there's just not a demand anymore to repair that stuff.

  • @sjair6526
    @sjair6526 6 місяців тому

    32 rocker arms, exhaust and intake reversed from the usual v8 setup. What a neat machine. It sounds like people seem to have lots of trouble with these engines but I can’t help but like the 6.7. Outside of 2 injectors, mine has been good so far.

  • @forreststairs3228
    @forreststairs3228 6 місяців тому +5

    I guarantee a piece of that excess silicone plugged the oil passage on that bearing causing it to fail

    • @ronsullivan132
      @ronsullivan132 6 місяців тому

      Not a Ford guy so not sure of the routing, but wouldn't the next stop in the oil system be the filter after the pump?

  • @GrowingUpGarden
    @GrowingUpGarden 6 місяців тому

    If this episode was 10 hours I would watch every second of it. Love your content Dave. To bad your shop is so far away. I’d bring you my 6.0 Silverado that has low oil pressure at idle.

  • @bruth6138
    @bruth6138 5 місяців тому +3

    Holy crap. I remember when people used to buy diesels for their simplicity, reliability and fuel mileage. Is it even worth it any more?

    • @zzoinks
      @zzoinks 4 місяці тому

      An engine blowing up is more due to an issue with the metal bits right? If so then would the same failure have happened to a gasoline version of that design

    • @user-369-
      @user-369- 28 днів тому +1

      A Cummins ya, Cat ya, Ford and GM nty, not worth it

  • @stanthurman9008
    @stanthurman9008 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you , guys & Mr. Dave .