One Simple Method to Learn Any Language | Scott Young & Vat Jaiswal | TEDxEastsidePrep

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  • @BiMiHi
    @BiMiHi 8 років тому +2821

    To save you 16 minutes,
    3 simple rules:
    1. Find one person to talk with, a conversation partner
    2. No english rule with this person, only language that you are learning
    3. Start speaking :)
    "a good start is half the success"

    • @Chickchick-fv7nh
      @Chickchick-fv7nh 8 років тому +22

      yes, there are to much opening

    • @iAmKagome22
      @iAmKagome22 8 років тому +11

      thanks wew!

    • @raisent1751
      @raisent1751 8 років тому +4

      Thank you)

    • @galimir
      @galimir 8 років тому +51

      thanks!I wish all videos about learning something were that short and clear like your extraction...One loses thoysands of hours just to get through boring useless intros and rants (and often to find out at the end its not what he came for ;) )....

    • @alessiamartina
      @alessiamartina 8 років тому +10

      + no worries about mistakes, using dictionary or translator, just try and get confident with that language with that person (if you can't move to the country whose language you're interested in)

  • @littleripper312
    @littleripper312 9 років тому +1613

    The real reason most people do not learn a language is because they like the idea of learning it but not the reality of learning it.

    • @OngoingDiscovery
      @OngoingDiscovery 9 років тому +64

      +littleripper312 Yeah, the reality of learning a lagnuage is that it requires hours of work, and unless you rpassionate about that learning process, as opposed to the idea of being bilingual, its gonna be tough to motivate yourself through the steep learning curve. They are right that once you get to the point where you can be conversational, it becomes a lot more fun and a lot less work tho

    • @onee
      @onee 8 років тому +25

      +ForShizzleize
      Learning smart can save you time. Besides that learning requires true interest. A lot of people are interested in sports, and know pretty much anything about the club they support. When it was build, who the past players were, who the past trainers were, why the team sucks, why their competitors suck etc. But when it comes to learning a new language they don't treat it the same way. They just see it as something they should "just do" one day.
      I know people who lived in a foreign country for decades, but were never interested in learning the language, and lived right next to people who spoke their own language. Now, after decades they still don't know how to speak the language the country they live in. Or they only know a couple of basic words.
      They basically created a necessity. Speaking no English at all which forced them to learn the other language.

    • @rudra9506
      @rudra9506 8 років тому +5

      +littleripper312 Signed in to like this comment :)
      and this is same for anything in life!

    • @ManjilAcharya
      @ManjilAcharya 8 років тому +1

      +littleripper312 I have spent months studying diabetes and found a fantastic website at Diabetes Crusher Tactic (google it if you are interested)

    • @BobanX1
      @BobanX1 8 років тому +2

      +littleripper312 I've been studying studying Japanese and discovered a great website at Japanese Magic Method (google it if you're interested)

  • @aestheticman2662
    @aestheticman2662 9 років тому +673

    When you learn a language in another county where that language is spoken (Total Immersion Approach), there are THREE GOLDEN RULES that I applied to myself when I learned one of the most difficult languages even better than many native speakers:
    1. TELL the people that you are trying to learn their language and you need their help. They will be very happy and enthusiastic to help you by speaking their language with you as if you are one of them. You may not understand at the BEGINNING, that's perfectly normal.DO NOT BE WITHDRAWAL or SHY.
    2. APPRECIATE mild criticism and corrections from the native speakers of that language and ASK them to correct your mistakes (otherwise, you will keep making the same mistake over and over again and that would be frustrating)
    3. ABSOLUTELY IGNORE those who laugh at you when you make mistakes and DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED AT ALL. Always REMEMBER (and even tell them when necessary): those who make fun of you/laugh at you CANNOT SPEAK YOUR LANGUAGE... maybe don't know even a word, but YOU SPEAK and/or already KNOW SOME WORDS/PHRASES in their language. So you're already ahead of them, right? Best of luck!

    • @knownuser0815
      @knownuser0815 8 років тому +3

      +Aesthetic Man Excellent post, thank you for sharing!

    • @aestheticman2662
      @aestheticman2662 8 років тому +9

      I'm happy if my suggestions are helpful. Good luck, bro!

    • @dannycrosby7962
      @dannycrosby7962 8 років тому +28

      Aesthetic Man: by adhering to the 3 rules you mentioned my wife was able to accomplish in 3 years what took me decades. When I first met her she spoke no English at all and my Spanish was very basic (who, what, when, where and why). I had always been very timid about making mistakes and embarrassing myself which always held me back whereas she advanced quickly because she wasn't afraid and wouldn't let any ridicule affect her. Just as you had said most of the people who laughed or made snyde comments about her English could only speak one language and now she's bilingual.

    • @aestheticman2662
      @aestheticman2662 8 років тому +4

      Good for her Danny! Sounds that she knows the formula...Congrats! :)

    • @suppawit2540
      @suppawit2540 7 років тому

      Aesthetic Man ตต

  • @shane7615
    @shane7615 8 років тому +796

    Learning a language is like building muscles. Everyone wants them but most people won't put in the effort.

    • @AdaptaFilms
      @AdaptaFilms 8 років тому +7

      Good point. Many give up.

    • @torgeirHD03
      @torgeirHD03 8 років тому +1

      +Shane Wilson also there is not way to know you will ever reach that goal i can do 700 sit ups every day but that doesnt mean i will every get a perfect six pack.Why should i try when so many people have tried and failed?Why should i succeed and not them?My arm isnt 20 inches after 6 minutes of lifting weights i give up.

    • @yanisk948
      @yanisk948 8 років тому +1

      +Campbell N. qu'on aille*

    • @Shadowmere29
      @Shadowmere29 8 років тому +10

      The difference is that learning a language can be way more enjoyable.

    • @maxaldrig5879
      @maxaldrig5879 8 років тому +5

      May depend on your objectives... It will be as hard as your motivation lets you

  • @WakandaBabe
    @WakandaBabe 9 років тому +108

    I can say that I learned ASL by forcing myself to use the language and not speaking. When I started associating with deaf people, going to their homes, their parties where I was forced to sign, it helped me learn. I then went to ASL classes where NO speaking was allowed. My head used to ache!! And then, one day, I started thinking in the language. Hearing people would talk to me and I automatically would sign...without thinking about it. Finally, the best experience I had was when I was at a party with all deaf people. The deaf couple throwing the party knew I was a hearing person but no one else did. Finally, in conversation, the husband mentioned that I was hearing and everyone turned and looked at me. "You're hearing? I thought you were deaf!" I knew then I had turned a corner and really spoke like a native. Very satisfying.

    • @learnperseveresucceedrepea4111
      @learnperseveresucceedrepea4111 5 років тому +4

      Wow that’s lovely! I am learning as well. Could you give me tips on how to find native ASL speakers?

  • @dungang9000
    @dungang9000 8 років тому +36

    18 mins =
    1. Find a friend who speaks that language with you.
    2. No your mother language rule. Speak only in your target language.
    3. Start speaking.

  • @emiliosgregoriou8943
    @emiliosgregoriou8943 9 років тому +461

    Making mistakes in languages is kind of like farting,You don't like doing it, but it's a sign that your bowels are working.

    • @fredrikrugby
      @fredrikrugby 9 років тому +34

      +Emilios Gregoriou its better because if you make mistakes in public, ppl are willing to help you out. that's not the case of farting in public.

    • @icouldbealiontamer
      @icouldbealiontamer 9 років тому +1

      +Emilios Gregoriou Oooh, eisai apo tin kuprou? I'm learning Greek right here right now ;)

    • @emiliosgregoriou8943
      @emiliosgregoriou8943 9 років тому

      icouldbealiontamer Yep, born and raised Greek Cypriot

    • @mottahead6464
      @mottahead6464 9 років тому +8

      +Emilios Gregoriou Which is a great thing by the way. No bowel movement means one is getting full of shit.

    • @Doooooof
      @Doooooof 9 років тому +6

      What a beautiful way of looking at it. Made me laugh.

  • @henrystivenson9792
    @henrystivenson9792 7 років тому +12

    Few people know about a pragmatic, efficient way to learn a new language. Those who do, advance in learning steadily and according to their schedule. While most people find themselves learning a new language as a necessity, many others do it because it is fun. It feels more sophisticated to know more than one language. It can be highly beneficial in your life over the long run. However, it is not an easy task to learn a new language no matter whether it is for fun or out of necessity. You've probably seen friends or acquaintances talk about wanting to learn a foreign language, then enthusiastically purchasing products, books, and maybe even enrolling into a course or program, only to ultimately see the reality of the fact that they have failed in their pursuit of learning another language. According to The Guardian, the ICM survey, which questioned 1,001 young people aged 14-24 from across the UK in June this year, paints a picture of a generation perhaps surprisingly open to the prospect of language learning, but often deeply lacking in the confidence of their ability to put their language studies into practice. The research had indicated that A-level languages are perceived as being harder than other subjects and their content is demotivating. Sitting down with a language textbook and trying to teach yourself a new language is not only boring, it takes an inordinate amount of time. It can take months to capture the basics of a particular language. Fluency comes far later. Often, we don’t have the luxury of spending months learning a language. For example, those people who are migrating or taking up a job abroad.
    However as an individual learner or with a tutor, the student can cut down the time it takes him/her to master the basics of a new language. There are methods that can be used to reduce the time it takes.
    Main Essentials of Learning a New Language - They distinguish three main essentials associated with learning a new language; namely the vocabulary, basic sentence elements / patterns, and grammar rules. Vocabulary - the most basic step towards learning a new language is to learn its words. Familiarity with the words will lead you to form sentences. Sentence Patterns and Elements - this has to do with how you ask and answer questions. Making coherent sentences is the way to make someone understand what you are saying. The ability will also help you understand what others are saying and how you might respond. Grammar Rules - Each language has certain rules that need to be followed.
    There is a special type of media developed for the first and second component - a bilingual graded book. Bilingual graded books are also called bilingual graded readers. They offer a parallel translation that allows the user to learn a new language in less time. With the translation on the same page, learners can effortlessly learn what any unfamiliar words mean. They can quickly pick up new vocabulary and phrases that are used over and over in texts of bilingual graded books. When they read a graded bilingual reader, they can pick up chunks of language and vocabulary that they can use in conversation and other real-world applications. It also significantly reduces the amount of time it takes to become conversational in a new language. As you read a bilingual reader, your brain begins to remember words and phrases simply because you are exposed to them several times. You don’t even realize, until you have to recall what you’ve learned, that you have already learned the new words and phrases. Listen to the audio tracks that should always accompany a bilingual graded book to learn how words are said and to improve your overall ability to speak the new language. A good idea is to use the free VLC media player to control the playing speed. You can control the playing speed by decreasing or increasing the speed value on the button of the VLC media player's interface.
    Decide what is better for you a paper book or an e-book. Many of the e-readers by Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and Kobo have dictionaries pre-loaded on their devices, with options to download additional ones, for free. If you do not have an e-reader, you do not have to buy one, because you can download it as a free app to your phone and use it right away. Writing your own notes, searching or making highlights is ridiculously simple with an e-reader or e-reading app. Anything you do with an e-book is also synced to the cloud, ensuring any change will follow you, no matter what device you are on.
    At first search on Google for "bilingual graded books" or "bilingual graded books for beginners". Choose and buy a book on a suitable topic, for example general, business, medical, culinary, dialogues, students, cooking, family, tourists, detective, short story or whatever you like. Read it for about twenty minutes a day. If you do it every day, you will be surprised how much you can learn in a month's time. Try to use the target language after you have learned for a month. If you don't have an opportunity to talk to native speakers at home or at work/study, use your target language in small talk on Skype or another online chat. Search on Google for "free online clean chat rooms" and pick up the one that suits your interests. Two or three minutes of small talk two or three times a week or more often will give you some motivation and encourage you to learn new questions and answers for new dialogues. Compile a list of questions and answers for your dialogues in a target language or find them on Google with keywords "Bilingual graded books dialogues" and try using them.
    Don't be afraid of making errors. They are your steps to success. You will spot and correct them sooner or later anyway. They will not be for the rest of your life. Better not to talk at all than to talk incorrectly? Wrong! Start talking as much as you can! Your language will improve every time you talk. A learner who knows only a hundred words and isn't shy of talking will progress more quickly than the one who knows a thousand words but remains silent because he or she is afraid of saying something wrong.
    It can usually take you from one to three months to finish a bilingual graded reader at beginner level (A1) and elementary level (A2). The amount of time depends on your previous experience with learning foreign languages and on your personal abilities. At this point you should be able to ask and answer simple questions with the following questioning words: What? Who? Where? When? Which? How many/much? As you improve and become more confident in your ability to use the new language, you can move on to the next reader level and continue your language-learning journey. After using a bilingual graded book for a week or two you are ready to study grammar rules, so buy a good grammar book. A grammar book will satisfy your curiosity about grammar rules awakened by the bilingual graded book. Read the grammar book to find out how you can use your target language more precisely. Follow this order - first read a reading book, then use a grammar book and exercises to make your learning experience uninterrupted.
    Language text with a parallel translation has helped many to uncover their potential for learning multiple languages. Whether you are learning a language as a hobby or for a necessary purpose, you will find such books are supportive. Using them is by far more pragmatic, efficient way to learn a new language than a "learn a language in two weeks" program. However you should frequently use the target language by using bilingual graded books with audio tracks, grammar books, chats, internet pages and even songs to maintain your motivation and progress. Remember - twenty minutes a day does the magic!

  • @nicolejohnson829
    @nicolejohnson829 8 років тому +163

    This may seem like simple advise, but as someone who teaches people English and a language learner, the obvious is sometimes not-so-obvious. There is this insecurity that comes with communicating in a new way that we have to overcome. People who study a language for years on end or who are exposed to a language for years and never learned it, are obsessed with getting everything right. The goal should be to communicate by using the language, not to say every sentence perfectly. Even native speakers make a lot of mistakes. Once we are able to communicate, then we can continue to refine our understanding and way of expressing things. Just as a child continues to refine their language skills as they learn and grow.

    • @supportme123
      @supportme123 6 років тому +1

      Your first sentence contains a misrelated subclause - tut tut ! :)

    • @misskmcp
      @misskmcp 5 років тому +5

      That was my problem during a long time. I didn't wanna make mistakes, so my english didn't improve... so I started to understand what I was doing wrong: so many things! Actually I still make many mistakes, but I am able to say things that I didn't imagine. Now I continue to learn and I'm not feel downhearted anymore. It takes time to learn and be fluent in a second language, but I won't give up. That's my dream: speak fluently....

    • @belvederebaileycambodia
      @belvederebaileycambodia 5 років тому

      @@supportme123 simply corrected by " is"

    • @user-qr1zp2us5b
      @user-qr1zp2us5b 4 роки тому +2

      @@ngtconga7583
      To be honest every damn person says "wanna" in some situation, and we are not lazy because of that one word. We all started hearing the word and it became a natural slang between English. (Or atleast in America.)
      But in some degree if you meet a stranger or want (or have) to be formal you would use "want to" however in informal conversations "wanna" is alright.

    • @crazydragy4233
      @crazydragy4233 Рік тому

      I think a lot of this is because of how school teaches language, which is always a very unnatural process that makes learning way harder and complex

  • @believeinnature8930
    @believeinnature8930 3 роки тому +12

    Love this video! It reminded me of all I did to learn how speak English. First of all, I felt in love with the sound of the English language when I was in 3rd grade. A couple of salesman came to my school offering English books. They went classroom by classroom teaching English from their books. My first words were:
    Book=libro
    Pencil=lápiz
    Teacher=maestro
    Apple=manzana
    House=casa
    School=escuela
    That demonstration made me dream on speaking English someday, just like those gays spoke.
    Second, even though English was not part of the academical curriculum at the elementary school, I played pretending that I spoke English by repeating words and some sentences I heard in songs.
    Second, once I was in secondary school (middle and high school) I had English clases twice a week only, but oh boy, those two hours were like the bread and water that fed me. For some reason it was so easy for me to understand the English grammar. Writing words, sentences and paragraphs were like putting puzzle pieces together.
    My best grades were in the English classes. I think, I never got tired of making the effort to learn the language.
    Third, I had the opportunity to continue my education in the United States. I took some ESL (English as a Second Language) clases. I remember telling my self that If I really wanted to understand the English language and speak it I had to play the rule NO SPANISH AT ALL. So, I distanced myself from all Spanish speaking classmates (unless we spoke English) and became great friends with a classmate from Vietnam and another one from South Korea. We forced each other to speak English because it was our common language. Lastly, I decided to work for a few hours a day. This also helped me to force myself to speak English because nobody spoke Spanish.
    I think that to learn how to speak another language you must have a STRONG DESIRE to do all it takes to accomplish the goal.
    To this day, I am still learning and I love it!!!
    What I am going to do now is learning how to speak Italian!!! I love that language as well!!!
    Best luck to those learners!!!

  • @SingZeon48
    @SingZeon48 8 років тому +14

    As someone that is bilingual in both Eng and Chi, I must say that after 12 weeks, their (brief) demonstration of Chinese is very impressive! Even though the tone is still off (which actually matters), but their main sentence structure was very coherent. Good job

  • @deawinter
    @deawinter 8 років тому +31

    I'm a little bit confused by the people complaining that this presentation was too obvious. Like, yes, of course we've heard this before - because it works. It works quickly, and effectively, and almost nobody does it because it's frustrating and embarrassing and incredibly difficult. But it does work.

  • @KarlRock
    @KarlRock 6 років тому +39

    Thanks! I'm going to try this. I'm currently in India.

  • @TwilcLearnMandarinChinese
    @TwilcLearnMandarinChinese 8 років тому +22

    Hey Scott and Vat, that is absolutely best explanation on how to learn any language. Too bad that at school, they teach the languages the wrong way... I wasted 9 years learning German (I am Czech native)... I was able to speak English in 3 months (living in NYC) and I picked up also Spanish language by default...(worked with Mexicans :-)...) Now I started to learn Mandarin, just because I always loved that culture, but many people discourage me to learn it... for various reasons I listen to naysayer... Now I started to travel to Hong Kong and China... I am all the way in and pushing myself to the second zone now... and it really is very rewarding.... this video was the one that motived me to do so. So Thanks again... Brett

    • @joycetan7491
      @joycetan7491 8 років тому

      Learn Mandarin Chinese

    • @joycetan7491
      @joycetan7491 8 років тому

      Mandarin is fun...hong kong normally speak cantonese

    • @TwilcLearnMandarinChinese
      @TwilcLearnMandarinChinese 8 років тому +3

      i know, but many also speak Mandarin

    • @jordan8213
      @jordan8213 2 роки тому

      i would have loved to have german in school😭

  • @tripontube365
    @tripontube365 9 років тому +37

    the best way of learning the language is "You have to live in there country" more than 3 months continuously. I used to learn Chinese in short course for 1 year and I completely forgot every lesson that I learned , even "How much" in Chinese i completely forgot it. After that I move to China from zero Chinese skill. It was amazing I can speak Chinese just 1 week after live in China and i speak so fluently.
    the second sufficient way of learning language is Watching the movie and don't look subtitle. you have to look there mouth when they say and read the body-language when they act. and you will be surprise to get the meaning what they say.

    • @fredrikrugby
      @fredrikrugby 9 років тому +6

      +Trip on Tube True. and apart from living in that country, one other idea that has to be dropped is how hard one language is. the concept that Chinese tops the list of most difficult languages has intimidated millions of learners before they embark on their language learning journey. yet there are also many many successful chinese learners who speak better than many chinese do.

    • @sarban1653
      @sarban1653 5 років тому +2

      I don't think the second rule is true. If it was true, then many people here would know Japanese from watching anime without subs lol.

    • @yassineouahmane9535
      @yassineouahmane9535 4 роки тому +1

      Exactly that will help us to learn languages very Quickly but the most important you have to be motivated all your Journey and never give up i'm trying to learn english now and also frensh but a little bit because i still searching if our mind can Acquire and grasp two similairs languages at the same time . Just make it fun and be esuthiasm with langauges and don't put a limit line because you are not a driver in the journey of learning langauges. Just try to put in 1 hour or 30 min at least to learn language that you really want to learn and focus on listening skills and don't be Frustrated after 1 months or less you have to be patient ( maybe you notice a lot of mistakes in my essay but doesn't Matter like this we will learn😉 😅)

    • @brendon2462
      @brendon2462 3 роки тому

      Not true, we have plenty of native media available. All you have to do is immerse.

    • @theywalkinguptoyouand4060
      @theywalkinguptoyouand4060 3 роки тому +1

      You learned chinese in 1 week. Woooow. You should be famous then. Lol
      Maybe try the same technique in english. Your horrible broken english shows it's not your primary.

  • @yeeiriser
    @yeeiriser 4 роки тому +12

    I would say this method works, I did all the time when I can. However, the hardest part is not every native speaker u talk to is willing to be or can be your language teacher (he might not be good at teaching or he doesn’t have enough patience to keep correcting u every day). Knowing that from my experience, I think learning language through TV series is the second best and fastest because the content on the series tends to be pretty simple and related to everyday life/activities.

  • @lorinaharrisart
    @lorinaharrisart 9 років тому +4

    This is so true! I learned to Speak fluent Dutch in less than 6 months before starting school. I refused to speak English, worked for a year in odd temporary jobs while resorting to "baby" Dutch, until I acquired enough more sophisticated phrases. I was willing to look and sound like an idiot until I could learn to have confidence in my language. It paid off when it got to the point that native speakers could not figure out where I was from, which for an American speaking Dutch, it was a big deal. I also refused to speak English even though the Dutch are quite efficient in English, and that was very helpful when they realized I truly wanted to learn the language, as they were happy to help me on my venture. I went on to graduate from a Dutch School of higher learning in the following 4 years taking the classes entirely in Dutch. So, yes I agree wholeheartedly with your method, and think it will help more people focus on what is necessary to pick up a new language. Well done!

  • @2sridhark
    @2sridhark 8 років тому +10

    I am an Indian (from India) who can speak English, Tamil (my mother tongue), Hindi, Urdu and am trying to learn Malayalam (the language my wife speaks) and Sanskrit.
    I think I have my cup full!

    • @jhandu_jogi
      @jhandu_jogi 8 років тому +1

      +Sridhar Kaushik Pros of living in India - 14 official languages to choose from within the country. BTW #respect

  • @wiscgaloot
    @wiscgaloot 8 років тому +5

    The fear thing is spot on. I have no shame at all in making mistakes in learning a language, and I easily learned Portuguese living 9 months in Brazil, at age 50. I'm working on switching that over to Spanish now, and adding bits of other languages along the way. I just make a point of using them whenever I can, and asking the native speakers how to say various phrases. It's a ton of fun to do this at my age!

  • @SageKayDee
    @SageKayDee 8 років тому +46

    The audio on this sucks, but it's a good presentation.

  • @naomi1245
    @naomi1245 6 років тому +6

    I'm learning English and I understand how hard it is to learn a another language. However, the truth is that it's pretty difficult to put yourself in that environment, like these guys are saying. And you also need a strong mental to take such action.💪

  • @hafurisanikkeijin3023
    @hafurisanikkeijin3023 7 років тому +4

    This was motivating for me! I am actually STARTING THIS TODAY after living in Japan for 7 months and studying hours everyday. I started learning Japanese at age 12, took it in high school for a couple years, college for 1 and then never really practiced until I moved here. But despite committed study, ample time and living in the country practicing, its still very slow going. Definitely, I am double whatever I was when i arrived but at this rate it would take 2 years to become fluent...and I was not a beginner when I landed here.
    WHAT THIS VIDEO DOESN'T TALK ABOUT: is that people will get angry at you because you won't speak English with them, both native speakers of the target language and your supposed English speaking buddies. They will be frustrated that you refuse to communicate easier and won't support you in what you are trying to do. Especially for 3 months. I am committing to this for 3 months starting today, and already, I've pissed someone off to the point of several angry messages criticizing my Japanese and English. (What a waste of time! Who wants to decipher your broken Japanese! How stressful!) But battling egos and wills is THE BARRIER OF LEARNING and I think that this method actually reverses it nicely so that the honus is on them in a way to shrink back to the shore, not me. I hope i can keep it up for 3 months. I am going to make a video progression about it on youtube with my channel!

    • @speaking_of_languages
      @speaking_of_languages Рік тому

      You're absolutely right, there are people who will just get angry at you and refuse to help, and to be honest, I think their perspective is justified. Especially if they are already used to being friends with you and suddenly you refuse to speak the only language they see as allowing them to actually communicate with you. However, if this "friend" is unable to negotiate a compromise with you without resorting to being rude, then my suggestion would be to drop them. If they are a colleague or boss, it may be a different story, but generally I think this is a good suggestion. If someone you were friends with before starts getting angry at you and even cussing you out for trying to use their native language to communicate with them, I think it would be reasonable to assume that bettering their English was one of, if not the only, motivating factor for hanging out with you. Just drop them. Find someone real.

  • @maureenmaddy852
    @maureenmaddy852 6 років тому +3

    I'd been a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter day saints or commonly known as the Mormons. During my assignment to mindanao, i learned Cebuano language in just One and a half month. Bisayan people noticed my fast improvement in Cebuano and these are the techniques i used to learn to speak Cebuano quickly. First, I really didn't care about the grammar. I set my mind that the more mistakes I make the better i would learn the language. Second, i listened very carefully to the native speakers, i studied out in my mind how they pronounce words and how they put the words together. 3rd, I would use the phrases and new words i heard over and over until it became natural to me. 4th, I would always ask members and investigators to correct my speaking. I learned a lot from them and last but not the least, I would always talk to children. Children are the best teachers, it is because they will not make fun of you when you make mistakes and that they will give you honest feedback.
    P.s. Learn the vocabularies and phrases you need in your everyday conversation.

  • @CzarDodon
    @CzarDodon 8 років тому +124

    I'd love to have the time and money to spend a year travelling and learning 4 languages.
    However, I did learn Italian in exactly this way, and it's absolutely true that you need to break through the frustration stage (I think I was very lucky that the Italians were very bad at speaking English back then and that they are very communicative people with plenty of imagination and patience) but at the same time it is absolutely essential that a language learner understands and accepts that the frustration phase is natural and necessary, it's the time you need to break down the barriers in your brain and create a space for the language to grow and develop.

    • @zawuz2681
      @zawuz2681 8 років тому

      +CzarDodon did you go italy without knowing any italian before hand, or did you already know some, if not did you just whip out a dictionary/google translate when you spoke to anyone?

    • @CzarDodon
      @CzarDodon 8 років тому +1

      +Potato Man I had no Italian at all except for ciao pizza and spaghetti, and it was 30 years ago so there was no Google Translate (which is a very poor tool in any case since it is unable to contextualize) and I didn't have a dictionary, it was just gestures and repetition, using words that seemed similar and so on.... lots of patience and much frustration, but it did the trick

    • @andreacroci7741
      @andreacroci7741 8 років тому

      +CzarDodon Complimenti. Ma anche oggi molti italiani parlano un inglese pessimo.

    • @CzarDodon
      @CzarDodon 8 років тому

      Andrea Croci vero, ma le cose stanno migliorando (forget Renzi...ugh).... invece tanti anglofoni vivono anni in italia senza imparare l'italiano MAI, è una vera vergogna, sembrano le signore inglesi del '800

    • @andreacroci7741
      @andreacroci7741 8 років тому

      +CzarDodon Anche questo è vero.

  • @learn_french
    @learn_french 7 років тому +8

    Learning a language is a complex process, I have been teaching French for more than 20 years now. But it means that it is complex for the teacher and not for the learner. The learner just needs to know how he/she is learning and how much time he/she is ready to dedicate to this new project. Then the teacher will adapt the curriculum and make it happen. Learning on your own is, by definition, a bit more complex because it requires that you know yourself quite well and you know how you learn and what are your limits. When it comes to learning French... it is necessary to understand the grammar... because it can be a challenge for English speaking persons, but it is definitely not impossible. The pronunciation is also a challenge at the beginning and for that... let's be honest... you will need someone else to correct you because it is just extremely difficult to hear your own mistakes. But in the end... learning a language should be fun and relaxed. If you don't laugh during your lessons, then change your approach or your teacher!

  • @starcrafter13terran
    @starcrafter13terran 8 років тому +7

    I studied spanish in highschool and didn't like it. As a result, I retained very little although I still can pick apart a sentence. I study korean now and love it. The weird thing is, I don't think "how do i say this english sentence in korean?" I think "I want tea. How do i ask for tea in korean?" It sounds the same but it really isn't. When I have my korean lessons I throw english out the window. English becomes just a temporary fill in to be able to ask "how do i say ____?" We say hello in korean and bye in korean every session. She tells me when I am doing well but says it only in korean. I can't tell you why I enjoy learning korean so much (think I'll study japanese at a later date, looks fun too), but it's key to absorbing it. I could try spanish again, but wouldn't enjoy it so I doubt I would be good at it. I suggest you find the language that clicks with you and have that be your second language. Maybe something else can wait until after.

  • @pacopecas100
    @pacopecas100 9 років тому +4

    I totally agree with this. I recently moved to the country about four years ago, not knowing a word of English. I am currently a high school graduate and I am proud to say that I graduated with honors (even took college level classes). I truly believe that everything is possible if you work hard.

  • @yuanchen1019
    @yuanchen1019 2 роки тому +6

    I am trying to learn English now. Sometimes I was shy to speak and was worried about making mistakes. After watching this video, I feel I am encouraged and will try to speak out confidently and not be afraid of making mistakes. Hope one day I can speak English very well!

    • @NomadNotMad
      @NomadNotMad 2 роки тому

      Let’s be language partners?

    • @yuanchen1019
      @yuanchen1019 2 роки тому

      Ok. No problem

    • @JayM409
      @JayM409 2 роки тому +1

      Your written English is perfect.

    • @husseinmoha8888
      @husseinmoha8888 9 місяців тому

      I am doing great improvement every single day in this language .
      Because I like learning languages
      So I do everyday conversation, shadowing or mimicking native speakers that is I think to help learning effectively in this language .there is a lot of options that u can learn English but I prefer to learn this way and I believe will help me in someday and I will able to speak effortlessly in this language. ❤

  • @Valerious000
    @Valerious000 8 років тому +3

    Vat and Scott, thanks so much for your talk! Your method jives with my experience and will likely work well for me. I've been living in Japan for 7 months and, while I've improved (vacillating between the first and second wave depending on how comfortable I am with the person), my progress has been hurt by taking English where I can get it. With my Japanese friends, we speak somewhere between 65% and 100% English when together (depending on their skill). Speaking a mix of English and Japanese is the most effective way for us to communicate in the short-term, but it doesn't help us improve as much as if we designated chunks of time (even whole days) to speaking only one and then switching for the next time. I'm going to suggest this to a few friends. Also, it didn't occur to me just how helpful it could be to speak only Japanese with my friends who are also learning it. Turn a desire into a need, right? Thanks!

  • @GermanEonni
    @GermanEonni 6 років тому +2

    I have to say their Korean sounds very good for 12 weeks of learning! Natural and pretty good pronunciation .. especially compared to many people who have lived here in Korea for years and years..!

  • @disarmsox
    @disarmsox 9 років тому +424

    Google translate is ok for words but terrible at translating whole sentences!

    • @leiatskynet
      @leiatskynet 9 років тому +8

      disarmsox Words and phrases I would say, and it depends on the language.

    • @SheetalTehlan
      @SheetalTehlan 9 років тому

      disarmsox ya you are right

    • @disarmsox
      @disarmsox 9 років тому +7

      ***** It struggles with grammar and sentence construction.

    • @flaze3
      @flaze3 9 років тому +11

      +disarmsox I don't agree. If you type in short commonly used "typical" sentences, it translates them well. The trick is not to use complicated sentences with multiple clauses and complex grammar (e.g. subjunctive)

    • @tyhod123
      @tyhod123 9 років тому

      +FichDichInDemArsch Skype Translator is pretty accurate *not 3rd part applications to Skype, I'm referring to the Windows 8/Windows 10 App in the app store

  • @checkyourego666
    @checkyourego666 7 років тому +11

    30 years ago, I went to live in a country where nearly everyone speaks English as a 2nd language. I wanted to make my life there, so I committed to only speaking the language of that country. If people were impatient with me and wouldn't give me a chance to speak their language, I didn't spend time with those people. After 3 months people could not believe how fluent I was. Most foreigners in that country never bother to learn the language of the country.

  • @magical.nights
    @magical.nights Рік тому +3

    Incrível! Adorei ver vocês aprendendo português aqui no Brasil! Que legal!

  • @johnpknuckles4739
    @johnpknuckles4739 9 років тому +126

    So your radical new method is to keep trying when it gets tricky and never give up. Who'd ever have thought that would work?
    You should market it as a weight-loss plan while you're at it!

    • @echt114
      @echt114 9 років тому +19

      JohnPKnuckles Did they say "radical new" method? I think the lecture was called "One simple method..." The simple method was not using your native language and only using the target language. So yes, pretty simple, just like they labeled it.

    • @filiepgeeraert8301
      @filiepgeeraert8301 9 років тому

      +echt114
      Aren't you confusing simple with simplistic?

    • @echt114
      @echt114 9 років тому +7

      Filiep Geeraert
      A method can be simple without the implementation being easy. I think what people are complaining about is that they think the title words "simple method" suggests the process would be much shorter or easier than otherwise expected.

    • @filiepgeeraert8301
      @filiepgeeraert8301 9 років тому +4

      Yes, that 's just a typical marketing ploy, eh.
      But even then, just saying that ANYONE can do it within 3 months, is already a big generalisation and exaggeration. Since when does everyone have the same level of language learning skills? For me this is just one big marketing pep talk designed to gather interest for the documentary, a sales talk like you find millions in this world.

    • @lanalytch
      @lanalytch 9 років тому +7

      +Achilles Phillips Exactly. It's a neuroplasticity method. It helps the brain adapt - for example with stroke patients who lost the use of an arm, part of regaining the use of that arm was binding the working one so you can't use it. This tricks the brain into focusing where you want it to.

  • @Drivabletree
    @Drivabletree 8 років тому +33

    This method can work well but it would be really easier when you have a friend to do it with

    • @carlitoxb110
      @carlitoxb110 8 років тому +1

      +M M please don't learn Spanish from chile, that Spanish is weird for the rest of Spanish speakers since they use a lot of strange words and they speak way too fast

    • @carlitoxb110
      @carlitoxb110 8 років тому

      ***** a bueno, mucho mejor, segun la real academia de la lengua española, en bogota Colombia se habla el español mas neutro del mundo, muy buen lugar para estudiar

    • @sarban1653
      @sarban1653 5 років тому +1

      @@carlitoxb110 Which country is the best to learn Spanish from? Spain?

  • @sohaib3064
    @sohaib3064 8 років тому

    If you need the language desperately, and you MUST learn it, you will. Did you see their motivation? That's another strong point.

  • @fritzschumacher6047
    @fritzschumacher6047 9 років тому +195

    Who can afford to go to a country and live there for a month? I can't. Wish I could.

    • @Fatima4A
      @Fatima4A 9 років тому +6

      +Fritz Schumacher 14:37

    • @jessehickey479
      @jessehickey479 9 років тому +18

      +Mama Eva I lived in China more or less comfortably for 5 months on about 2500 dollars. I can proficiently speak mandarin and am continuing to learn to read now that I am back in America.

    • @06rtm
      @06rtm 9 років тому +8

      +Fritz Schumacher You could. The cost is largely in the flight. Just save money for a year or however long it takes and then go. You could even find a job in te new country to help pay your way. Go to inexpensive countries where your dollar will go a long way. Thailand for example is very inexpensive after you've paid for your flight.

    • @MinotaurvsCyclops
      @MinotaurvsCyclops 9 років тому +5

      +George South east Asia is very inexpensive after you've paid for your flight*

    • @ikonichiwamcpe4874
      @ikonichiwamcpe4874 9 років тому

      +George Wait for a sale then buy it
      ..

  • @lukemorrill9344
    @lukemorrill9344 7 років тому +1

    My method for learning languages:
    1. Find a native (HelloTalk is a free app that I highly recommend)
    2. Find a good course with audio(assimil works well for European languages)
    3. Use anki or flashcards to learn vocabulary
    4. Practice your pronunciation( learn the basic rules and repeat after natives)
    5. Download google translate (not perfect but good enough)
    6. Practice a little each day

  • @juliannalin19
    @juliannalin19 6 років тому +6

    From personal experience of learning languages (although learning foreign languages has always come easy to me and because I love to learn in general - Spanish, Mandarin, Taiwanese, and Levantine Arabic)), I completely agree with your methods. Learning by necessity and using translator tools is one of the fastest ways to learn.

  • @suphirethailand
    @suphirethailand 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you both. I have spent 6 months being very determined to learn Thai in Thailand. I am switching to the ‘no-English rule’ today.

  • @JenniferShell
    @JenniferShell 4 роки тому +6

    What is the recommendation for comprehending the native speaker talking back to you? Feeling the confidence to speak is one obstacle, but understanding what is said to you presents another issue. Do you have a suggestion?

  • @gerardopc1
    @gerardopc1 7 місяців тому +1

    Jesse is teaching me how to learn a foreign language 👌🏽

  • @酥梅
    @酥梅 5 років тому +4

    Chinese is my mother tongue. They spoke really well in the video

  • @thinktransnational
    @thinktransnational 9 років тому +2

    Ooooo, this is exactly like that guy who created the Fluentin3months blog. I'm glad that you all tested this and proved it effective. It's always good to hear a hypothesis get reinforced over and over by different people. It seems super simple when you think about it, but when the rest of the world is learning English as their second or third language, it can be quite different to get people to not speak to you in English. I'm inspired but you all's year long language journey and seriously want to go out and do one myself. All the best!!

  • @MrFerdinandOo
    @MrFerdinandOo 8 років тому +50

    5:50 - Main idea. Not to speak your native language. For those who are lazy to watch hole video.

    • @supportme123
      @supportme123 5 років тому

      You mean it causes a gap in their knowledge? :)

    • @horacearroya5246
      @horacearroya5246 4 роки тому

      18 mins =
      1. Find a friend who speaks that language with you.
      2. No your mother language rule. Speak only in your target language.
      3. Start speaking.

  • @fmikael1
    @fmikael1 7 років тому +2

    I completely agree with this method. I came to use this strategy while learning french and it had a massive effect.
    As the speaker stated it really forces you to learn words out of necessity as opposed to just reading them in a book.

  • @chaehakim7650
    @chaehakim7650 9 років тому +4

    It's so impressive to me! Find just one person that i can use the language i want to learn.. But also it's not easy to find that kind of person.

    • @melakkush
      @melakkush 9 років тому

      +김유경 Can you imagine how much you'll be bothering that person?

    • @ismailouassou5086
      @ismailouassou5086 9 років тому +1

      +김유경 that's my problem too

    • @adityabharadwaj999
      @adityabharadwaj999 8 років тому

      +your travel guide mine too :(

  • @DE47H
    @DE47H 8 років тому

    their chinese is perfect if anyone is wondering. these are very sincere people they are not bragging like the usual Ted talk "in case you didn't know, i am kind of a big deal" but humble and trying to help. let the negative people deny their hardwork and enjoy working towards where we want to be tomorrow.

  • @VenomEmperor
    @VenomEmperor 9 років тому +15

    I agree with the "No English" rule to some extent but that is impossible to do if you know literally no word in your target language. It also depends on your target language. If you're an English speaker trying to learn Spanish or Italian, they are from the same family so you can at least figure out what's being said. But if you try something completely different like Chinese, Japanese, or Korean, it is almost impossible to do so.
    I was able to learn a lot of Korean during my exchange program there for a semester when I spoke to Koreans who cannot speak English. But I feel like this was only made possible because I made preparations and self studied for 4 months before coming to Korea.
    Something I disagree with is speaking with another learner, unless the learner is at a considerable level. The problem I have is if both learners do not know the right way to say something and keep practicing the wrong way to each other, then they will keep saying it the wrong way.
    When do you think is it most appropriate to start the "No English" rule?

    • @Gleichtritt
      @Gleichtritt 9 років тому +6

      VenomEmperor It does work. You just need a bit more time to run that system. My grandaunt (does that word exist ?) Moved from germany to Canada after World War II. She and her family did not know a single word in English, nothing niente nada :D. But she learned English, I never met her, but according to her children and grandchildren who visited us in Germany, she spoke a perfect English. In the beginning, you will need a lot gestures and a dictionary can accelerate everything, but it is possible. I remember a one week trip to italy in school, we met an old woman, sitting on a chair, she only knew Italian. She came to us and we talked, it was not easy, I just had a liiiiittle bit of spanish and a dictionary, but somehow, whe were able to talk and I still remember, that not far away from that place, Puccini was born. She told me that :D. Our mind can learn a language just buy listening to it in every day situations. Unfortunatly, you can get access to it concious, but it is there. There was this young american student, he got an accident or something like that. He woke up and the first two or three days, he was just able to speak chinese, nothing else. His chinese was absolutly perfect, wihtout any scratch. Also he was lucky, cause after a few days, his English came back and he become who he was, but he did not lose his Chinese Skills. Where did he learn that language? He stayed in China for half a year or something like that, but his Chinese was very poor. When he woke up, his first action was to write down, that he loves his family (or parents? I dont remember) but he did it in chinese symbols, Han it is called I guess.
      Anyway, sorry for writing that much, I hope you can pick up something you like. Also sorry for English mistakes...Im German, as you could guess now with ease :D

    • @ggwp6929
      @ggwp6929 9 років тому +4

      VenomEmperor did you ever think about those chinese who speaks english fluently??? if you know the distance of english and chinese these two languages are extremely far then you should sense it's far to Chinese as well when it comes to english cause Chinese characters are literally distinct to latin words. well, i won't say a lot of Chinese can do english well but its definitely much much much much much bigger than those Anglo who can speak a second language not from Europe. so basically, putting you to their shoes might help you to get over yourself. Those Chinese who can speak English well is definitely not because english is easy .. compared with other asian language, english is just so different.. but because of globalization, they have to...

    • @theflubbybear
      @theflubbybear 9 років тому +1

      Gleichtritt "Great aunt" is the phrase you were looking for.

    • @Gleichtritt
      @Gleichtritt 9 років тому

      fenks :D

    • @ggwp6929
      @ggwp6929 9 років тому +1

      Gleichtritt lol I love your comments. my best friend is learning german and will exchange to Germany in 1 year and i will visit him as soon as he arrives there.... wanted to learn some german to prepare for this planning trip but it's just bit hard to do... my best friend's first language is English which might be a lot easier for him to adopt it..... but for me....first language as Chinese will be harder .......to learn it.... but I'm still looking forward to it... hopefully it won't confuse me between english and German....( one of my Chinese friends studying Germany told me german leaning decrease her speed of speaking english cause sometime she consciously adopt german grammar rules on english like where come from you?(woher kommst du) if U know what i mean lol... sometimes i wish i was raised to speak both languages cause that way i will definitely choose german as my third language lol

  • @traken8058
    @traken8058 3 роки тому

    Best Advice I have ever heard for learning conversation. I think the initial idea of immersion was exactly this: No native speaking, only the new tongue. People seem to think they are practicing immersion just because they go to a foreign country, but then speak English to everyone. No - no - no. If you are speaking your mother tongue you are not immersed. So immerse yourself!

  • @filiepgeeraert8301
    @filiepgeeraert8301 9 років тому +8

    I speak 6 languages (Dutch/Flemish natively), English, French, German, Spanish, and just recently started learning Portuguese.
    I have some doubts about the test, Spanish and Portuguese are very close. I am learning Portuguese very quickly now, not because of a "no English" rule, but because they are so similar. I believe Chinese and Korean are very similar as well, so a better test would have been : Spanish --> German ---> Mandarin Chinese --> Hungarian, then you really have 4 languages that are very different from one another.
    Not saying they are wrong, but what I believe is that everyone has his or her own perfect method of learning. I think what works best for me is a very intensive way of learning languages, emulating in a way the immersive experience, not being afraid to start talking to the natives after one or two lessons, even though you might not know that much vocabulary yet, just soak up as much as possible, but in the end I do believe that I also need a bit of studying, especially if I want to get beyond the home and kitchen language.

    • @BrandanR
      @BrandanR 9 років тому +6

      Filiep Geeraert firstly, i have studied both korean and mandarin and they are not the same what so ever in pronunciations (and rather insignificant similarities in writing) however I think the main point they were trying to get across is that speaking solely in the language you want to learn, rather than giving up and going back to your mother tongue will be very beneficial. they weren't trying to brag about the number of languages they learned (just how effective the method can potentially be.)

    • @filiepgeeraert8301
      @filiepgeeraert8301 9 років тому

      Brandan R , but there is nothing special about their method, as I said many of the techniques he explains I did spontaneously;
      In my point of view what many people lack is the will to study. They think that you never have to study lists of words by heart, that you can all learn it just by talking and listening. Even as a child in your own native language you got language courses, so why would this suddenly be different ?
      I've learned all my languages in evening classes, by the end of the first year generally the class has halved in size, because so many people start with a new language but do not have any perseverance.
      Also, there is something called talent. I do not claim to be good at repairing cars, just like many people are not good at learning languages. To just say that ANYONE can do this in 6 months is like putting an enormous burden on someone who cannot.

    • @BrandanR
      @BrandanR 9 років тому +1

      Filiep Geeraert okay yeah, I see where you're coming from... but maybe this method could work for others who couldn't achieve the level of fluency they wanted the more traditional way (although i completely agree a good foundation is necessary before throwing yourself into a situation of emersion)/// just another option

    • @KylaBaskin
      @KylaBaskin 9 років тому +3

      Chinese and Korean are nothing alike lmao

    • @filiepgeeraert8301
      @filiepgeeraert8301 9 років тому +1

      Kyla Baskin , That 's not what I have read.
      www.quora.com/How-similar-different-are-Chinese-Mandarin-Japanese-Korean-languages-dialects
      Although they are different languages, Korean and Japanese have borrowed heavily in terms of vocabulary from the Chinese.

  • @WillN2Go1
    @WillN2Go1 9 років тому

    You guys rock. I just sat through another boring 'required' meeting for teachers 'looking at the data,' so we help students learn English. You guys just get started, avoid the stuff that doesn't work, and has never worked. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @rafaelsoriajr
    @rafaelsoriajr 8 років тому +17

    Not many people have the luxury to immerse like that. let alone the time.

    • @christiaan81music
      @christiaan81music 8 років тому +2

      Yes of course but they adressed this issue

    • @iLoveTurtlesHaha
      @iLoveTurtlesHaha 8 років тому +1

      +Christiaan Haesen Obviously, he didn't stick around for that. Like most people who fail at learning anything.

    • @rafaelsoriajr
      @rafaelsoriajr 8 років тому

      arizpe33 :) aint gonna lie, that put a smile on me. have a good one b.

    • @karldergroe3990
      @karldergroe3990 7 років тому

      Johnny Appleseed time is but an illusion

  • @tullochgorum6323
    @tullochgorum6323 3 роки тому +2

    I think they're wrong. The actual secret of learning a language is to find a way of engaging actively with it that you really enjoy.
    That way you can study day after day for the the hundreds of hours it takes without burning out.
    Their way might be great for extroverts like them or for Benny Lewis - a UA-cam polyglot who uses a similar approach. But it would be torture for introverts.
    I know accomplished polyglots who study for months before they say a word to anyone else. They use self-talk instead.
    There's no one best way - just the personalised way that keeps you motivated over the long term, with your own unique abilities, goals, likes and dislikes.

  • @jeremyswint9485
    @jeremyswint9485 9 років тому +15

    I think something should be said about the fact that if you go to another country, and ONLY speak your target language, it could be taken as rude by natives of that country who want to practice their English. In my opinion, exchanges are much better and beneficial to both people. Because as much as I want to practice my target languages, that other person could want to practice English just as badly. I don't think the concept of 0 English in another country is right in this case. We should make the effort to speak that country's language but also be willing to help others practice our native language as well. This is coming from my personal experiences traveling with language learning goals in mind.

    • @SergioAntonioCastroR
      @SergioAntonioCastroR 9 років тому +2

      Well said, Jeremy. I couldn't agree more with you.

    • @christinathomas886
      @christinathomas886 9 років тому

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    • @flaze3
      @flaze3 9 років тому +6

      +Jeremy Swint Well it depends. If you have paid to go to the country and learn the language then it's fair that you only speak that language. People who come to England generally only want to speak English, and can get annoyed if you try to speak to them in their own language. If you decide to do an exchange, then obviously it would be 50-50, but I would hold my ground with speaking the target language in other countries because otherwise you will make very little progress.

    • @flaze3
      @flaze3 9 років тому +1

      ColinJ I totally understand your sentiments!

  • @lalalalaname5845
    @lalalalaname5845 4 роки тому +1

    I can't believe these guys got a TED talk for this.

  • @PeterSantenello
    @PeterSantenello 7 років тому +29

    Great Video :) I'm looking to move to the Ukrainian countryside to learn Russian for 1.5 months (eastern Ukraine). I'm going to be on a complete English diet except for a 5-minute vlog post everyday. Do you think 1.5 months can bring about some good results or I need something more like 3 months?

  • @jeffreyd508
    @jeffreyd508 7 років тому +2

    I like this. A problem I encounter is, looking up a word/verb/phrase to use, and find out later when a native friend meets me once a week, he says "NO bro, NO ONE would ever say that here", or "sure that means 'more', but not in the way you're using it" etc.
    .
    Back to the drawing board, and having to 'unlearn' what I learned.

  • @CharlieCleveland
    @CharlieCleveland 9 років тому +5

    You guys are awesome. I've seen your inspirational videos through Benny Lewis and they always get me revved up.
    I'm 2 months into my 3 month trip to Bologna and my Italian is stagnating. Tomorrow, I shall use the No-English rule with everyone at work. It will be difficult, but I can't wait to push through!

  • @amazingcommenter
    @amazingcommenter 7 років тому +1

    another analogy is, learning a new language is starting exercise. The first weeks/months will be painful and just like the muscle, the brain is being stretched - you will feel resistance and a lot of pain. However, when you progress, it becomes easier, fun and probably addictive.

  • @shipan5858
    @shipan5858 7 років тому +4

    The Mandarin Chinese they spoke at week12 was amazingly good, especially the pitch which is very difficult for many foreigners.

    • @josephfernandes7083
      @josephfernandes7083 3 роки тому

      Thanks for practical advice and I am going to use it immediately. Kind regards

    • @ancapcitorw5162
      @ancapcitorw5162 3 роки тому +1

      I don't know Chinese, but do know Spanish and I can say that their Spanish just isn't comprehensible at all.

  • @gbadri1
    @gbadri1 6 років тому

    great motivation for me guys as I stopped my Spanish and regretted that I made a grave mistake of not having a spanish woman I wanted and quit. 35 years later and I am using your method. thanks

  • @fredrikrugby
    @fredrikrugby 9 років тому +5

    well i reckon i myself have the talent to learn languages so any method seems to work for me... personally i believe no matter which approach i use, it takes an equal amount of time to master all skills of a language, speaking, understanding, writing and reading. some methods claim to be more effective, which is true, but it helps improve only one skill or two and it should not be used solely. travelling to a place where the language is spoken does help as my Portuguese gets much better after having lived in Portugal for 6 months.

  • @Vivi_Tann
    @Vivi_Tann 9 років тому +1

    I enjoyed this video. I actually found that I learned Spanish much more quickly once I had a basic idea about the grammar and vocabulary, and I actually tried speaking. I would like to go back to this method to help me with growing my basic vocabulary a bit more. I wish that they would have mentioned that you should probably learn basic vocabulary, grammar, and language principles before attempting to speak. Of course this should not be your only method, but it is worth a try. Here is what I would do, back when I was in highschool. I would sit on the bus, and see on of my Spanish speaking friends. Eventhough my level of Spanish was very poor, I still spoke. When I couldn't express something, I would ask them how to say a word, and try again. Yes, it was a tedious process, but eventually I found myself speaking quite well. Yes, I did take Spanish in school, but your output makes the most difference in language learning. So to everyone learning a language, once you know a few basic words and are able to form a basic sentence, just try speaking! Don't worry about how you sound, because it is all a part of learning. When you can't think of a word, ask how to say it or look it up. One thing I like to do; and what makes learning Japanese more fun for me, is I talk to myself. I as a basic question to myself, and try to express an answer. For example: How was your day? What did you do today? Etc. Then, I would share my response with a Japanese friend, and have them correct it. You don't have to live in the country, just speak, listen and practice! Just be patient and have fun with it. Best of luck to everyone!

  • @hopefulbunny9851
    @hopefulbunny9851 8 років тому +118

    When they said korean I was like
    f**k they know what i'm here for.

    • @MartiOwnz
      @MartiOwnz 8 років тому +1

      loool same here i was like what did they read my mind xD

    • @annamalloree9004
      @annamalloree9004 8 років тому +1

      Hopeful Bunny Same! I've been going around trying to find videos for my Korean learning.

    • @hopefulbunny9851
      @hopefulbunny9851 8 років тому

      Anna Malloree I really like Learn Korean 101 it taught me hanguel and how to speak it. I just came here to speak fluently with no problem Xd

    • @annamalloree9004
      @annamalloree9004 8 років тому

      Hopeful Bunny I have tried Korean 101 but it didn't work out for me. I was thinking of finding someone to talk to me in Korean and teach me.

    • @hopefulbunny9851
      @hopefulbunny9851 8 років тому +1

      Anna Malloree I want to do that but it's not everyday you bump into a korean at school. I can't even find any online. I think it would be easier that way cause they can correct you if you say somehthing wrong...

  • @bartram33
    @bartram33 7 років тому

    I've been to Spain many times and hablo poco Espaniol, but I find that in tourist resorts the people speak English and are impatient when you try to communicate in Spanish, it's a blessing when you find a helpful person who will help and correct your efforts.

  • @citlalyortiz4633
    @citlalyortiz4633 4 роки тому +3

    Their accents are so thick, listening is more important than speaking. If you speak too much in the beginning, you’ll get bad habits like a thick american accent in another language

  • @mandiformoso5635
    @mandiformoso5635 6 років тому

    I sat in the plane flying to Italy and made a promise to myself that I would never say 2 phrases - “I don’t speak Italian” or “do you speak English”
    Because English was NEVER on the agenda I have now far surpassed all my Italian friends here that speak English. Had I even spoken English to them on Day 1 it would be almost impossible to then switch. If I had to do something like go to the doctor - the night before I would learn all the phrases I needed and then use them - biggest thing I learned was that if you use your new vocabulary in context you remember it. I agree with everything these guys have said. I also studied basic grammar from a book, used Pimsleur, Michele Thomas, flashcards and UA-cam native speaking videos. I am nowhere near fluent (Italian grammar is diabolical!) but I have been here 1.5 yrs and go about everyday life and social life with no problem.

  • @mixedraice
    @mixedraice 8 років тому +4

    I learned French in 6 weeks during my summer study abroad; it helped knowing Spanish already, but I was adamant about not speaking in English 99% of the time and not caring about what other people thought! Toward the end of the course, I had a local think I was French!

  • @simonbakesbread4962
    @simonbakesbread4962 9 років тому

    great rule and great talk! and i 2 things to note:
    1. I think your biggest key to success was having an ideal language partner (each other) being as motivated and excited about using the rule and to learn the language.
    2. your Korean was by far the worst of the four languages. I think it's because this No English Rule works with basic speech but once more difficult grammar kicks in, there is another huge hurdle that needs much more effort. (Chinese has easy grammar and Spanish and Portuguese have similar grammar to English so you didn't run into the same problems as Korean which has very different grammar rules)
    nevertheless, the "no English rule" is a great way to actually get immersed in the language which few people ever even hit

  • @LuciousKage
    @LuciousKage 9 років тому +4

    Ok. i am in japan 3 months already and i think that is true what is said in this video. everyone is trying to speak english to me and its a problem. i will try to forget english from today. i speak fluent 4 languages but some how i didnt realize that i learned them by the same method you guys mentioned. :)

  • @benrudolph5582
    @benrudolph5582 2 роки тому

    Something that helped me learn about 100 words in Standard Modern Greek is, learn the most important sentence in any language; "please, where is the bathroom?". " Parakalo, pou enai e toileta; " is a basic sentence, but from there, you can replace "where" with any other question word, and "bathroom" with any other noun. Minuta of gender, plural, tense, relational location (in, on, in front, next to, behind, etc), come later, and as you need them. "As you need them", similar to how you might know inches and feet / centimeters and meters, but not microns or lightyears because they aren't relevant to what you do.
    Too, language isn't about rules, it's about communicating concepts.
    For example, Star War's Yoda speaks direct translation Japanese O-S-V * sentences (ball, he kicked), compared to English's S-V-O ** (he kicked the ball), but either way, the concept was transmitted.
    * O-S-V = object subject verb
    ** S-V-O = subject verb object

  • @rayman4x4
    @rayman4x4 8 років тому +5

    Wow. What a wise advice! I'm learning English and now I know what to do with it! I should put it away! Thank you guys!

    • @alessiamartina
      @alessiamartina 8 років тому +3

      hahahhaha loool but if you understood this video you're already in the calm water... much easier hahah :)

  • @naomichase9473
    @naomichase9473 8 років тому +2

    Oh my gosh, I have watched a few language learning talks and eureka this is exactly what I needed to hear. Kia ora mō to mahi. Kia pai tō rā.

  • @inglesninja
    @inglesninja 9 років тому +7

    As an English teacher in Brazil, I threw away this idea of NO STUDENT LANGUAGE with my students. Most students saw me 1-2 times a week for an hour. Having them struggle through this hour by not being able to speak any Portuguese seemed like more of a de-motivator than a productive method. Keeping the student motivated was my main goal, and being able to help clear up questions and show similarities between English and their own language during our time together seemed more useful to them in the end. If the native language is used as a tool for understanding it can be very helpful. If it's used as a crutch or the teacher is just being lazy, not so much.
    However, being immersed in the language, like in your situation, changes everything.

    • @flaze3
      @flaze3 9 років тому +1

      +Inglês Ninja Yeah "no English" in an English class would start to become a bit suspect after a while :p

    • @inglesninja
      @inglesninja 9 років тому

      flaze3 Oops, yeah, that wouldn't work well. ;) *fixed it

    • @brandonnick86
      @brandonnick86 6 років тому

      Agree. I was asked to only speak English to a student coming from an Italian background but when you get a blank stare, no matter how you phrase your message, you have to bridge the gap for the student.

    • @milanschouten6533
      @milanschouten6533 5 років тому

      i agree, 1,5 hours a week isn't enough to apply this rule

    • @funkyrhcpcat7849
      @funkyrhcpcat7849 5 років тому

      E olha que inglês tem um vocabulário distante do nosso, hein?
      Em línguas latinas, tirando o francês , usar o português como base acelera significativamente o aprendizado. É quase essencial

  • @tapwewinamisk
    @tapwewinamisk 7 років тому

    Enjoyed this video, always fascinated with discussions or hypothesis centred on language learning methods.
    The use of the ocean metaphor for language learning is a fantastic way to illustrate the process. Once you are past the surf there is truly a vast ocean of learning awaiting the student.
    Recap
    1. Find a person who speaks your target language - absolutely essential, forget the magic bullet promises of software like Rosetta Stone. To effectively learn to speak a new language you need a real human being, not an app. Skype is a good alternative as mentioned.
    2. Speak your target language with 1 as often as possible. (Only your target language!) (If possible correspond electronically in target language as well)
    3. Start speaking now.
    The most interesting tip in my opinion is advising learners to utilize online translation when speaking in public. Many teachers focused on traditional methods may frown of this but I would agree that it is useful and helps to bolster your confidence as you acquire the language structure and vocabulary.
    As mentioned, no need to travel to foreign country (although it would be ideal) it is not necessary in most diverse western nations where dozens of languages are spoken in large urban centres.
    Other tips I would recommend:
    > Don't get distracted by hundreds of language learning apps. Settle on a few favorites. Smartphones are tools, they are not replacement for quality human instruction/interaction.
    > Only listen or read news (online, tv, radio, newspapers, periodicals) in your target language each day for three months.
    > Listen and/or read content that interests you in your target language. Subscribe to a magazine; periodical in a subject that interests you in your target language.
    > When speaking to yourself (internally) try to do it in your target language.
    > Learn the vocabulary and jargon of your workplace in your target language.
    > Use Office software in your target language.
    > Set target language as default language in video games or on your smartphone.

  • @tsetan4792
    @tsetan4792 8 років тому +5

    Now, I need to take a Japanese language class and go to Japanese restaurant to speak it so I can learn it😆

  • @zyzzer
    @zyzzer 3 роки тому +1

    Loved the wave vs calm water analogy to learning language. It's scary and difficult, but once you push through things calm down and speaking a foreign language/swimming becomes much easier!

  • @usmanbradley
    @usmanbradley 9 років тому +18

    I'd be interested to know how much do these guys remember now?

    • @rjones2209
      @rjones2209 6 років тому +1

      They can't even speak English with a proper English accent, so why should be bother to listen to them?

    • @erenyeager754
      @erenyeager754 5 років тому +1

      @@rjones2209 One can still speak good English even without having what is deemed as the perfect "English" accent. As long as the person is able to convey what they are trying to say and is able to get the person to whom they are speaking to to understand then there shouldn't be any problem...language is after all about communicating and understanding each other.

  • @keybrewer82
    @keybrewer82 4 роки тому

    Bravo! It makes sense. I tried telling my Spanish speaking co-worker to speak only in spanish but then i go back to English. Will be consistent

  • @neaumusic
    @neaumusic 9 років тому +3

    summary: dont let yourself speak any english, and immerse yourself, it took them 3 months each to learn 4 languages in a year as they lived in spain, brazil, korea, and china

  • @crvenazelena8386
    @crvenazelena8386 9 років тому

    It has helped me to speak with others who cannot speak or understand English. No way to cheat!

  • @IgnacioLunar
    @IgnacioLunar 9 років тому +99

    They should have shown greater skills in the languages ​​they claim to have learned
    as native Spanish speaker
    I can say that babbled 2 or 3 sentences only,
    the same in Portuguese

    • @ScottHYoungVid
      @ScottHYoungVid 9 років тому +52

      Ignacio Lunar Good point. Showing two people speaking four different languages meant 8 different clips! Obviously we could only show a snippet in this talk and that doesn't really demonstrate the ability. If you check out the homepage for our challenge, however, we have full interviews in each language of several minutes or more which should give someone who is proficient in the language a much fairer assessment of our abilities.
      I (Scott) also completed the HSK 4 for Mandarin Chinese.

    • @henrytakeover
      @henrytakeover 9 років тому +14

      Scott Young I have a question for you since you are one of the presenters in the video.
      *Should I force the native speaker I am talking with to speak in simpler speech?*
      For example, I know this Japanese guy who speaks Japanese and English fluently, but when we are with his brother, he will speak Japanese. The Japanese they speak is faster than what I can comprehend, and because it is native Japanese, much more difficult than what I have learned. What I have learned in my few years at school is formal Japanese. What they are speaking is ridiculously informal.
      Should I tell them to speak in a way so that I am able to follow along? I feel as if it would inhibit the conversations between themselves.
      Another problem is that I have other friends who speak Japanese, but default to using English with me because that is the easiest method of communication when we play video games. It would be a problem if we're not communication effectively in these games so I was wondering what I should do. I speak with these people 6 days out of the week, so it would be in my best interest to learn how to speak the language from them.
      My examples are a bit specific, but I'm sure my basic question would help a lot of other people.

    • @TheRainyAsian
      @TheRainyAsian 9 років тому

      Ignacio Lunar The same in Mandarin too.

    • @SuperUglys
      @SuperUglys 9 років тому +6

      ***** I think you should try playing a casual game with them and try to communicate in Japanese or just have small talk in Japanese while playing.
      If you guys play a ranked game, it would be better to talk in English because communication wins games, so just play normals where the games aren't as important, and chat with them about random stuff :D
      I hope that works :)

    • @henrytakeover
      @henrytakeover 9 років тому +2

      SuperUglys Haha it's kinda hard to do that in CSGO since there is only ranked mode, but there is one game we play where it is pretty easy and I get in some Japanese here and there. Thanks for the advice.

  • @oscargutierrezfernandez5150
    @oscargutierrezfernandez5150 5 років тому +2

    Excelentes recomendaciones. Tener la necesidad de sobrevivir en un ambiente desconocido, te obliga a sacar su máximo capacidad en el aprendizaje de idiomas.

  • @Jay-eb7ik
    @Jay-eb7ik 7 років тому +4

    Why couldn't this be a 2-5min video? Have bullet points, a few examples and end it.

  • @Abdi_sulaiman
    @Abdi_sulaiman Рік тому +1

    Consistensy is a key to achieve your goal. Many people were doing extra hard and push their limit in the beginning. Their spend much time to learning. A week and half month their decide for done. So, don't push anything to learning something. Focus to enjoyed with the process. Anything happened if you really enjoy without preassure. I did learnt english 3 month ago. From zero to still zero but i enjoyed the processed learning, because i believe that this is will make it happen if you believe it happen. Action without thought. Start from now.

  • @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1
    @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1 9 років тому +14

    8:12 Hey, it's that Irish polyglot!

  • @sichengchen4258
    @sichengchen4258 5 років тому

    As a 3 month Chinese language learner , you definitely do it very well!

  • @modelstatue
    @modelstatue 8 років тому +8

    Is it still good to work from a course book or at least something while you do all this "no English talking" so that you have new vocabulary and skills each time you talk? Learning a language just by speaking to people does not seem like an ideal way. I speak Cantonese at home and have for many years and I am still not fluent...

    • @Li.Siyuan
      @Li.Siyuan 6 років тому

      That's what they were telling you! Use dictionaries (and text books) as well.

  • @씬박한언박싱
    @씬박한언박싱 6 років тому

    wow. simple and fantastic method to learning languages. I am korean. These people have good pronunciation and speak in korean well after 12 weeks.

  • @心明-o8j
    @心明-o8j 5 років тому +4

    I don't have someone to speak Korean with, I'll use the no-english rule on my teddy bear ㅜㅜ

  • @MandarinMonkey
    @MandarinMonkey 8 років тому

    Actually we did this to learn each others languages. No English does work. Of course though when in Taiwan I had to break the rule to speak to my friends and family back in the UK. But you really do see improvements by abandoning your mother tongue for a while. Then the key is to keep speaking it regularly so it doesn't slip away.
    Love the talk. Good advice. And good luck to everyone on here learning a new language. you are doing an AWESOME thing.

  • @guybartlett9587
    @guybartlett9587 9 років тому +5

    wow all comments.....so negative?!

    • @harris7915
      @harris7915 9 років тому

      guy bartlett No I have already tried this. I tried no english rule since I was born. And guess what I forgot to speak english.
      This really works.

    • @emiliosgregoriou8943
      @emiliosgregoriou8943 9 років тому +1

      +Harris Kunwar Obvious troll is obvious.

    • @harris7915
      @harris7915 9 років тому

      Emilios Gregoriou But this does work...hdfkjdshajkfsdhf asdfjds saldkjf dfjhdskfh.....fdsjsaws...sfdkfksd
      See i learnt new langauge

  • @johns80schick
    @johns80schick 4 роки тому +1

    So I'm basically halfway through the video and the this "new concept" boils down to immersion. Like seriously? Like we didn't already know that

  • @bettytes_2615
    @bettytes_2615 9 років тому +4

    Omg this talk was amazing cause it reminded me of the languages I used to speak. like I went to Sudan for a year and about six month, and learnt Arabic in just 4 or something months , then came to Canada and learnt English in just about 3 months or so ... and now my French teacher is being a total dick by making me feel bad for not learning French as fast as the other students. I got so frustrated that I just gave up trying to learn French my marks went down and I was super sad , then I realized y I didn't learn French as fast or y I was not good at all at speaking it , it was because I was not surrounded with ppl who only spoke French and I was very stressed out before a test and I just looked back at the 7 year old me who spoke 2 languages. And that is when I realized it was not my fault that I couldn't get simple words right in French or carry out conversation , it was the teachers for getting frustrated and the fact that I was trying to read and write in French while still trying to learn how to properly use good grammar in English . Anyway now i just don't give a shit what the teacher says because he didn't teach him self how to speak a other language at young age with no books or teachers telling him to study etc... The thing I'm trying to say is it don't matter if ur trying to be fluent in a different language and it doesn't work out as long as ur having fun and u try to speak it everyday ur going to learn it . 🙍😹

  • @Zhang_Lisa
    @Zhang_Lisa 5 місяців тому

    Knowing both Mandarin-Chinese and Korean, their progression in Mandarin was much better than their Korean based on the video clips they shared. So awesome that they went on this one year journey! As a professional linguist, I love the no English approach; it forces immersion and use of resources like they said, and breaks through to common phrases and grammar that you need right now in whatever situation you’re in. ❤ Making mistakes is also so essential to learning, and course correcting is what helps learning! Trying again and not being afraid to give it another go, multiple attempts 💯

  • @qinyilian7976
    @qinyilian7976 9 років тому +4

    I have to say a partner is really important. My first Japanese friend gave me the confidence and sense of accomplishment about my daily study of Japanese. Moreover, you can make friends when study a different language instead of challenge alone. I know the feeling of struggling by oneself and it tastes bad....

  • @wadek798
    @wadek798 4 роки тому +1

    I knew a guy that lived in Panama for 8 years and does not speak spanish. One reason is because the majority of his associations were english speaking expats. Now that he is no longer in Panama, he is now taking it seriously.

  • @phucluongsuhuynh
    @phucluongsuhuynh 8 років тому +3

    so the point here is that no grammar before you can speak??

  • @jessicab8426
    @jessicab8426 8 років тому

    I've been trying this method with my family. It's working so far. It makes me consciously make the effort to be able to speak the language when applying the "No English" Rule. Thank you for sharing :)