LOST A FRIEND OVER THIS CONCRETE JOB!!!
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2024
- Just telling my side of the story but it really sucks when a so called friend cuts you out on a job you were talking about doing for months. I definitely do not care about the money end of this one It's just the principle of it.
not a friend, just a guy you have a work relationship with
true for sure
your buddy is going to run out of contractor buddies real quick
He is.
I used to hire a neighbor as a second cameraman for my side wedding business mostly as a favor to him as he needed the cash. Had him signed up for a wedding one weekend and at the last minute he tells me he took another job that weekend and left me scrambling to find a replacement two days before the wedding. Funny thing is he didn't understand why I was so pissed off. I let him have it and never spoke to him again. People are funny. No good deed goes unpunished. You're a class act Ron, don't let it get to you.
Thanks for the story Jim. That sucks when people do stuff like that.
I'm not a businessman, but this man keeps changing his mind, different dates, different opinions, different circumstances... I think you came off clean before arguments get worst during or after the job
That is true.
No worries about that scoundrel. Turdballs are everywhere but eventually they will stink themselves out of business. Your professional demeanor and commitment to your customers will prevail.
Thank you
You said he is slow to pay too? That is always my biggest red flag when dealing with people. If you have to badger them to pay they aren't worth dealing with. Then when they come begging you to do work you make them pay up front or walk away.
No he always payed me but canceled on me and my guys a bunch of times at the last minute.
have him pay 60-70 percent up front if he agrees i’d do it
Hello Bondo! What's the old saying? "Burn me once, shame on you". "Burn me twice, shame on me". Just like a tear in a river, I would let him go so fast... That story defies the definition of friendship or that of a reasonable working relationship! Really enjoy your channel! Thanks for sharing. 😁👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Daniel.
Cut him like bait bro, I’m sure you were in business long before him and I guarantee you’ll still be in business when he’s gone. Keep up the good work. Youre an awesome example of the good old American way. Dirty hands, clean money
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Thank you 😊
I like that saying, "Dirty hands, clean money", damn right👍
Appears your buddy kept you and your team in his back pocket as a last resort in case his actual plans didn't work out. Stay far away from that guy!
When you find out your buddy isn't your buddy at all and is just using you. These are the people you tell them lose my number and have a nice life.
Yup he did.
We pour our icf walls in nova scotia all year long I have 15 to do in the next 2 months 4 foot frost wall with footers were i staling super foarm we just finished a 20 foot wall last week no problems tarps are the key
I don't think you lost a real friend at all, just saw the true colors of a user
In Yiddish he’s a Goniff! A crook!
A man is only as good as his word! I would have dumped that concrete in his yard…But I’m hard….You held your composure! Great job! You’re a man of integrity!
When you own a business you have no "friends".Only business associates. I just retired from corporate ownership (sold my factory and retired well). My wife was the first to notice that people who acted like my friends stopped calling when the money dried up as I was no longer signing the front side of checks to them. I knew it would happen and tried to explain it to her.
Conversely there are annual trade shows for my former industry and the new owners are setting up booths at those. Through a contact I heard the people I worked with over several decades were:
shocked that I sold out and retired,missed me, and had very nice things to say about my business ethics,ability, and desire to help any and all that asked. That made me feel pretty good.
That must have made you smile to hear that.
@@bondobuilt386 it did.
With you 100%. Love your videos, and your integrity and pride in your work.
Thank you 😊
Mr. Bond, you are amazing. Of all the videos of yours I have watched over the last few years, this is the most impressive. With no one watching, and no one helping, you made sure the finish on the concrete you had placed was perfection. That's the attention to detail that when things get wild and tough comes into play to make a difficult job still be a success. Well done, Sir!
PS: I noticed you pulled all that wire mesh up into the larger job.... 🤪
PPS: No. You and your crew don't need to be a backup to someone that isn't honorable.
Thank you for that. I sure do aprieciate you always commenting on my videos and your support. 😊
Thank YOU for sharing your experience and wisdom about concrete and LIFE! One of the BEST YT channels I subscribe to.🙏 @@bondobuilt386
I really enjoy your videos and admire the work you and your crew get done. You deserve better treatment and shouldn't work with that other crew. Life is short and you deserve to get better treatment.
Thanks Douglas.
There's a few things I won't miss about owning my own company & this is definitely one of them. I hated people doing this & assholes shopping my bids. Best revenge is for you to have a great career! Thanks for doing these videos, keeps me kinda' in the game.
Awesome I am glad the videos are helping people. WE are doing great thanks.
Years ago when I started my business my dad said there were a few things you should know, newer do work for relatives, a friend of a friend, or in your neighborhood. Last, never get mad, eventually, you'll get even. So true, In one of my first jobs my mom's favorite brother, my uncle, tried to screw me out of some money till she kicked the living s--- t out of him. She said don't tell your father. I told that same story to my son.
LOL good story your mom kicked his butt. LOL
I love your Mom!
LOL 🤣@@Praterphil
Thanks for sharing brother 😁,,some folks are all about their needs they say sorry to often looks like he ran out of sincerest convincing.
Your welcome 😊
I think you did exactly the right thing with this guy and his wife. I hope you were finally paid correctly for your beautiful work!
Sounds like that was never a friend in the first place.
I think you are correct.
Nice to find someone somewhat local...im between Rochester and Syracuse. I just did a stamped patio behind my house and I wish I did a few things different now...Good videos!
Thanks. We have a bunch of stamping videos too
What’s up Bondo? Always enjoy watching your videos. This guy doesn’t sounds like a real good friend should sound, he was begging for months that he still needed you and then when the time comes to get it done he ghosts you! I’m thinking these other guys were going to be cheaper and he was going to have more $ in his pocket, with friends like that you don’t need enemies they say. Good luck 👍
Thanks buddy and I think that too.
Sometimes $$ makes you forget about never again.
Sad but true
Never say no to money, but don't prioritize anything that guy does over your own business.
We have a bunch of work this year anyway.
The Godfather almost always has a line that fits... "Never let them know what you are thinking" and follow thru and as planed leave this one sided relationship behind as it was never what you thought it was. Ray Stormont
Thanks for that.
It looks like he appears to need you, but you don't need him, His loss.
I certainly do not. Thanks.
Hey bondo ,I’m in construction in England and you find some people are all about themselves,his loss if you ask me
Looking forward to the videos this year
Thanks Steve. 👊
It is pretty obvious that we broke the weather. That is really big thing to break. I expect you got a bunch of snow. I have family and friends between Hartford and Boston. They are in it deep. Out here in the PNW the weather is crazy too. We are going to pay for it this summer. Compare 'broke the weather' with 'cut out of a job'. Perspective.
You have sure taught me a lot about concrete and I appreciate that.
Thank you and yes I think we did mess the weather up. We do not have much snow at all.
Just remember the old saying, "Screw me once, shame on you" "Screw me twice, shame on me". Cut ties.
Yes I think so.
Small jobs but they are very important for the homeowners to get done before the busy season. El Nino has its good points.
Yes they are important to people.
You don't need "friends" like that.
No I do not.
Drop him and keep up what you’re doing, friends like that and you don’t need enemies. It’s obvious you know what your doing as everyone keeps calling you , because you do what you say your gonna do. Good luck and stay warm.
Thanks and I will. 😊
General contractor in the philly area since the 80's ...Don't take it personal...It sucks when you count on something and if falls through- just because. You learn that everything happens for a reason...We don't know what it is sometimes but; There'll be plenty more jobs...Now that guy owes you one...Keep that ace in your pocket...:)...Good health to you and yours.
Thank you and thats a good way to look at it. 😊
Guys like that always have excuses. Avoid untrustworthy people.
Yes they sure do.
We just had an uncle whos been painting for our company for almost 20 years. He was the highest paid employee, and whenever he needed anything, he came straight to us. I mean countless favors were done for him and not a single one in return. Just a month ago he threw a hissy fit all over a project we did for a church and told him hes going to be paid hourly on just this job because its practically charity but we still made sure our guys got paid out of pocket. Fast foward a week he quit and went to one of our main clients who gives us massive projects every year and tried to under cut us from our own jobs. He quit and went to start his own "company" and tried to take our customers right out from under our noses. Good thing the guy who gives us a good portion of our jobs every year told us the situation and said that he would never use him and that we would be the first crew he would ever call for any job. All we can do now is laugh at how badly that backfired for him.
G'day Bondo,
It's not a nice feeling to find out that you've been "lead to believe", that the job is yours, then they get in someone else.
I'm getting a thicker skin, as I get older.
Your story about being left sitting on the bleachers, is all part of "the joys of being self employed"
I was left feeling let down, after a similar incident, and a wise old man said to me, as he held up his five fingers,
"If you have this many good friends in a lifetime, you'll be doing ok"
I'm lucky, I have a few good friends that have stuck by me through thick and thin,
mind you, i think that one of the tests of "friendship"is if you can still work together after some fairly big disagreements.
Thanks I have a handful of good friends that have been there for years. 😊
If that happened more than once, cut all ties with that guy. Keep up the great work!
Thanks good advice.
There's apologies then there's amendments. Someone who is an adult who respects me and amends a mistake with me, I stick with. Someone who I can't trust is halfway nice but is always apologizing to me I don't have time for. That guy's just looking after number one. Sorry you had that experience, no fun.
keep your head up my man, work will come your way !
Thanks bud. I have a ton of work lined up was just helping him out because it's winter.
Not enough reason to loose a friendship. Life is very unpredictable.
There is more to the story but not enough time to tell it.
I had a friend since school days, I always dropped what I was doing to help him day or night, last minute, emergencies.... whatever. Since I became disabled he doesnt understand I cant labor like I did , now I need help to do small projects and cant get him out here if it was life or death. Guess I was more of a friend than he. Been a few years now and funny how I havent heard a peep. Dont let people take advantage of you.
Sad story. Some people in this world.
It seems like you are a really honest contractor much like I run my buisness. Burn me once, shame on you, burn me twice, shame on me.. My interpretation of that saying is if someone burned you once it's his fault and if you go back and get burned a second time it's your own fault. Sometimes it's best to just walk away and avoid any future headaches
. My two cents from your Canadian brother ✌️🇨🇦
many many yrs ago when i was 8? i snuck into abandoned house & found huge pile of magazines on floor. each mag had a postcard for subscriptions to many more...i checked boxes and filled in address on 400+cards to person that i thot could use an education.
LOL thats a good one.
Looks real good.
The effort always pays off
Thank you.
In Buisness over thirty years, doesn’t include working with my granddaddy as a kid, he was a WWII D-Day veteran, he always said.” Excuses are like buttholes, everybody’s got one and they all stink.” Don’t worry about dude, keep your integrity, people see it, and people also know a snake in the grass when they see one, here’s another one he used to say,” you’re not working hard enough, if you are worried about your competition. All in a nutshell, treat people the way you want to be treated.
Your grandfather was a super wise man by the sounds of it buddy.
amazing how the buzzard comes out in folks over a dollar
Its sad.
I enjoyed seeing the close up mag and edging work. I just do tiny concrete projects and some of the bagged concrete(depending on brand) finishes like crap. It's like it's 95% jagged rock and sand with the absolute minimum of portland.
Thanks and yes bagged concrete sucks. You can make good concrete with crushed sandy gravel with stone and Portland cement. Way better than the bagged stuff.
You don’t need people like this. He kept you just in case the other guys didn’t work out. Been there done that.
Yes he did.
Well, with friends like that, who needs enemies right?
He was only a friend because he needed you. Just like when you have a pickup and someone needs to move that you haven’t heard from in a long time!
Yup exactlky
Sounds like your 'friend’ wants his cake and eat it. Ditch him, he’ll play you again.
Yes he will if I let him.
Send him a bill for your time and trouble, then never have anything to do with him again. Hope Buisket isn’t helping him.
Biscuit is not going to help him. He is pissed as well. He is working for the carpenter that built the building.
Good job on the two small jobs.
Well done.
Good viewing.
When you depend on someone for work and they change on you it feels like a betrayal, but he said he had more guys that he thought and did not expect to show up! Still he should of called you about his dilemma! He was probably overwhelmed at the moment and as an afterthought realized he cut you out! Things happen sometimes, just do not depend on him next time, but it was most likely an error in judgement. Roll with the punches, speak your mind, and let it drop! You still have jobs with him!
We have more work than we can do. I was just gonna help him out because we do not normally work in winter.
Forgive and move on. Takes a little while to get over the sting but know you’ll be better off in the future not having to deal with that nonsense anymore. You’re a smart guy and probably knew a while before this straw that broke the camels back that you’d stop dealing with him eventually…..Keep pluggin Bondo
Question, are you able to get the form out between the new slab and old deck or just have to leave it ?
Thank you for the comment and no that form will be there. I did not form it just hired to pour it.
Yeah. It's hard to be a worker especially in NY. It's to cold here in PA to be messing with mud. Stay safe.
Yup I like taking the winter off. We kill it the rest of the year.
I wouldn't work for that guy again. It's a lot easier to not work with someone like that rather than having problems working with him.
Thanks and I have to agree with that statement.
You pretty much did the right thing. I wouldn't write the friendship off entirely... just set another boundary or two... no more joint projects without adhering to some pretty firm rules. I would no longer recommend him for jobs I can't fit into my schedule or jobs I don't want to do... at least not until he lives up to promises he makes a few times. I'd still be cordial and all... but, yeah, I wouldn't even consider working with him and I'd make sure he knows why... but then outline what has to happen if we are every going to take on a project together - like half the revenue upfront before you even BEGIN to consider making room in your schedule... NON-REFUNDABLE if he cancels/uses somebody else. Otherwise, it's nice to see him and all that... have a beer or whatever... but yeah - a boundary or two.
Sounds like a lot of bother just to help him. I usually do not have time anyway. Just was gonna help him out because it is winter. But I do think if I did work for him again I would have to do what you are saying. Thanks.
I wouldn't deal with that guy anymore
I think I am done.
Bondo, friends don't pull those kind of stunts. Like others have said, he is no friend, steer clear of him, you don't need him to stay afloat. Enjoy your winter. We know you wouldn't do what he did to you !
No I would not do that to him.
Obviously an acquaintance and not a friend. I hate to be jerked around, so don't blame you a bit. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice......
Ya I have let it happen to many times.
@bondobuilt386 you let it slide 'cause you have a big heart...keep up the good work...
Thank you 😊@@user-kv4yi4ms7k
who needs enemys when you have friends like that
I know too true.
sounds like the bud light has gone to his brain
Yup I think so Greg. LOL
It would have been a neat project to video. Some people are funny when it comes to work. They just think about themselves before others.
I would tell him to kick rocks.
Keep up the good videos
Your a good stand up man
Thank you. 😊
I wouldn’t of said anything, I would’ve just gone my separate way, because who knows what the future holds
I wouldn't make a big scene of it but I would tell him don't call ever again. I have cut these types of "friends" out of my life and have not regretted it for one second.
Yes you never do know.
When you get ditched several times, you need to draw a line in the sand so to speak......
Yes for sure.
I bet the spray foam alone was close to 100k. That's a huge building. As for your friend, that's a no. Never again. People like that must feel the consequences of their actions. Otherwise, they will never stop.
Yes a huge building for sure.
If you need the work he's given you in the future, you do what you have to do. If you don't need it, then you don't need him either.
Friends build you up.. other people bring you down.. sounds like he is one of the others..
Sooo true.
There are makers and there are takers. You are in the fore mentioned category.
The guy is certainly not to be trusted in the future.
Last August I bought a 2011 STX F150 IT ONLY had 3,500 miles. Your dully was an exellent buy!!
" you need a raise" raises scissor lift.
Yop. LOL
In Texas we say " adios my friend" when a supposed friend uses us like that.
Perfect. LOL
I would say it’s not worth burning the bridge over ! U may need his help some day , as I get older I try to pick my battles and most times I’m glad I did ! Nice job on the pad
Thanks Ron. If that guy did truly honestly apologize….. not some half-ass excuse, I’d give him another shot. I caught your short video on Kevin. I think you should call it the mud-bucket. Be interested in seeing some video of that Bad Larry.
I like that. The mud bucket. LOL
Watch the people you trust & the people you do business with. It’s sad to say, but it’s true. There’s not enough loyal people left on this planet.
You are correct about loyalty.
Well, Bondo, I think you made the right choice, deer hunting is definitely more important.
I have no doubt you’re a good man. This guy was just keeping both of y’all hanging to see if he could get one you two to come down on the price so he could pocket more.
It was good that y’all talked, hopefully he felt like crap. Good real friends are few and far between. Take care of yourself, see you on the next one 🤘
He said he felt like crap but there was a better solution. I would have done it cheap just to video if he offered.
@@bondobuilt386 lol 😆 😆😆😆😆😆
Bondo, You are a man of your word. You should expect the same from others. Old school your word and a handshake should mean something!!!
Let him go.
Sincerely, Bronko
it's ok to keep him as a friend, just no to any business deals.
our friendship was work based.
You tell him if he ever needs you again your price is double. Problem solved.
Perfect. LOL
Apologies are meaningless if the same stuff keeps happening just move on from him and continue doing you!Sounds like some one I don’t want to mess with buisness,friend,anything period
He needs you .
You don’t need him .dont waste any more time with this guy
wow looks gorgeous!
Man been a tough year for us snowmobilers.
Ya I managed to get 300 miles in 3 trips. Not good at all.
Sounds more like you lost an acquaintance instead of a friend.
My Grandma taught me over 50 years ago that if your count of friends is more than your fingers on one hand you are considering acquaintances as friends.
I really enjoy following your channel. Enjoy the rest of the winter. Time seems to fly by, year after year
It does fly by. Thanks for the comment and watching the comment.
Weeks of no snow and 60 degree days in Feb is crazy around here in CNY.
ya I poured 30 yards last Friday it was 60 degrees and we had it burned in by 2:00 pm.
@@bondobuilt386 If this keeps up you won't get winters off any more.
I wouldn't say anything to him about not being used for the job. I would just not be available any time in the future unless it fit my needs. They usually get the message.
Yup good idea.
What is the metal flashing for that you put in the stairs? I've never seen that done before.
I admit I don't know much about concrete work, But does the wire mesh have any benefit if it's laying at the bottom?
#1 Rule- Do not piss off your masonry guy!👌
LOL Nope.
Three strikes and your (he's) out. I agree, stick to your decision. Less stress for you and your guys in the future.
Ha! No shit...I'm 2 hours north in Potsdam. Good to see it was warmer down there because it wasn't warm up here this winter!
Burn me once - shame on me. Burn me twice - Shame on you. Your history.
Yes exactly.
Dishonesty is a pet peeve of mine... That burns bridges faster than anything... I don't need dishonest folks in my life... As the saying goes... Lay with dogs, you get up with fleas... Dave
I like that one bud. Lay with dogs. LOL. Now I got fleas.
You don't get the fleas until you mention what jerks they are and THEN associate with the dogs... You have time my friend...@@bondobuilt386
Money will make people do strange things.
Yes it will
Sadly, greed changes people even if you're related
My oldest son is a commercial building engineer. He has designed and built dozens of pole barns in western Washington. The wettest place in the USA. Wood poles in the ground is the ONLY way they build them. Why? Strength . Plain and simple while the brackety set poles will meet code poles in the ground are an order of magnitude STRONGER and they last just as long as long as the holes are properly prepped and the concrete is properly poured around the poles. Bracket poles are easier by far to set up but poles in the ground much harder to push over. The company he works for has pole buildings with in ground poles that were built in the 80's and still standing just as strong as ever.
I agree that the poles add strength but I will take a stem wall with extra bracing any day because I have seen the wood rot off several pole barns.
Bondo- if you ever do another job for him again, only way should be non refundable deposit on such. When money is involved he just might think twice about his actions. Love the channel, best to you in ‘24
Thanks we have a busy year lined up.
I know how I am. I would
Definitely work w him again but I would cancel last minute… twice. Just to keep our “friendship “ equal. I’m big on equality 😊
I'm with you on the guy cutting you out. That's bad business !
It is hard when people think that All right to do and you have bailed him out before! He's definitely a man out for himself and not the team.
Yup and I would have handled it way differently.
Just sounds like he is unorganized… and probably trying to wheel and deal too. That keeps em uncountable, to bad for them