Concrete GONE WRONG! Had to Remove and Replace
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2021
- In this video we show you how to demo, setup, and pour a concrete driveway! We had just poured this concrete driveway a couple months ago, as well as the neighbors driveway. This one had cracked up everywhere and the neighbors was fine. So here we are breaking it out and putting a new one in! Enjoy and don't forget to like, share, comment and subscribe
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I’m the homeowner. Just came across this video of our driveway. We noticed the next morning the concrete did not look right. My husband is in the construction biz and he said right off it looked like it was contamination. We knew it wasn’t any fault of Dave’s crew because he did a beautiful job on neighbors driveway across street. We notified Dave immediately and he was very responsive. We kept wetting it per instructions for a couple weeks and it just kept getting worse. Yes we were stressed because in these times so many don’t take responsibility for their work. We are so grateful to have chosen a contractor with high standards and integrity. He put us on his busy schedule and redid the driveway a couple months later. And it’s beautiful. Seems funny to say that about a bunch of concrete but what a huge difference it’s made for us. Our old driveway was collapsed and cracked from dead tree roots. Love it!
I love you Kim 😚😌
How much did it cost to have it done?
You get what you pay for. I like the line detail they cut for the neighbors driveway looks sharp for that style garage. They definitely had your back on this job.
I hope you gave them this great review on Google. I know I would pay more to hire a crew like this one. I value integrity.
This was expertly written Mrs. Kim. To take the time to explain how this was discovered and what transpired once the vendor was made aware...was a pleasure to read. I hope yall enjoy this amazing driveway for many years to come!
Nice work. Respect to a man with integrity to completely stand by his work, without the slightest bit of finger pointing or complaining. Job wasn't done right, we'll make it right.
I concur
TY
Bad material
How did he make it right if the homeowner had to pay for concrete twice??
@@michaelmotes8392 he indicated he was the one to pay for new concrete if the concrete company wouldn't cover it.
@@michaelmotes8392 wake up
The fact that you were prepared to accept that there was a problem with this job is to your credit, without trying to overtly offset blame, adds greatly to your Company’s reputation. Hopefully the financial losses incurred in fixing this problem will, in time be more than recovered. Well done David and congratulations to your team.
I concur
TY
I use bad concrete on purpose the first time, then have the customer pay me again to remove and fix it the second time. Easy money.
It absolutely makes no sense for a Contractor to knowingly lay defective material. The commitments of ongoing future business and allocation of workforce, let alone maintaining reputation of the business means that no one would follow such a strategy.
@@evanofelipe It's a good strategy if you move from place to place.
@@edntzThat's why I don't hire fly by night businesses. Unfortunately people hire them because they are initially cheaper, but realize too late that it cost them more in the long run.
Nice work. I've delivered concrete for over 20 years and you show a lot of pride in your work. Your customer here was very lucky to have hired you.
Very impressive. In less than 5 minutes into the video, the company's integrity is evident. If I were to start a home service company, I would make videos like this for all to see. Not only to showcase the quality work done but also to show that if anything was to go wrong, it would be made right. A great form of advertising. Nice job.
It's the right thing to do.
TY
You can tell how good a business is, not so much by how they behave when things go right, but how they behave when things go wrong. And things do go wrong, that's inevitable in all walks of life.
@@OdellCompleteConcrete About 50 years ago I was mixing and casting parking lot concrete "bumpers" in a yard. A mentor who was about 40 years older than my late teens at the time told me that: "The mark of a craftsman is not someone who never makes an error, it's how the error is corrected."
They made this video because if they didn't replace it the homeowner was going to sue them for a shity job which the contractor clearly showed they did a shity job and blamed it on everything but himself I find it kind of funny that the homeowner wasn't in this video to actually make the contractors "Good Deed" look legit how do you people even get by in this world by being so naive
@@nathanbasel207 the homeowner gave him permission to record on private property so i would assume they are on good terms...but im sure you know everything
I bet the home owner was worried when the old slab started to break up. Then Odell comes through in a big way with a complete repour!! Nice work David!
Yes, they were stressed
@@zacharyphillips9294 you got to remember, the companys finances have to be taken into account, they have to pay for the concrete, materials, labor etc, also scheduling, they could have been backed up for months or the family could have been unable to find any time to allow it, im not saying to forgive im just saying that the are factors that have to be taken into account, and one other thing, although it started cracking 3 days after, how long did it take the home owner to report it to the company
@@samgriffiths9868 if it was your job I have a feeling you would have done everything but fix the problem just made excuses and eventually quit answering phone and ignore emails from customer
@@samgriffiths9868 I guess channel didn't like his comment and removed it, Bit sad if Odell did.
Love watching your videos brother. Wish you were in Florida. I greatly respect your professionalism in supporting this customer regardless of what happened with the material.
just back in the trades after years away and maddened by cleaning up messes by previous contractors...up at 230 am watching a damn driveway get done right and makes me happy:) good work gentlemen
TY
Very cool stuff. Thank you for letting us rubberneck your driveway job. Seriously, this is right up my alley for interesting stuff to watch the pros do.
I've watched you demo alot of concrete driveways and never seen it crumble into small pieces like that. Way to stand behind your work removing and replacing that driveway. Thanks for the video of it.....
Alot
@The trash man
That’s what I said haha
That's the reason it Cracked
@@2wheel93 exactly that is why it cracked. I seen a chick on the last video run the bowfloat a thousand times better
It was HOT
Great video, it's nice to see a true professional stand behind their work. I imagine it's a tough pill to swallow, especially when it was most likely the batch, but there is no substitute for doing the right thing. 👍🇺🇸❤
I concur
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Just showing me this I'd hire you guys. Of course it would be better to not have any mistakes but standing behind your work? Reputation? Priceless. Well done.
why would you say the batch ? the tickets should have waits and that usually happens when to much water . and under stand this cemex always over exceds its mixes thats why they have drivers write down the amountof water used all the time and this does happen to all concrete companys . what was the psi on job across the street where they the same? i can tell you sir and any one watching Cemex does not reuse mud and do it right so it dont come back on cemex . some times this happens and you redoing and national redelivering it shows you and then respect your and there work 👍ok now fiber 😁 that helps
@@bghankhernandez what???
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Will the concrete company not stand behind their mix or will they do what most large companies do and weasel their way out of any responsibility?
You're a class act!! Wish more people had your level of integrity.
Over a million views! Great work & integrity to fix a pour that didn't meet your quality expectations. The mark of a good business mind and a true professional. There are times when a job doesn't turn out how we want it to, and the true character comes out in those times.
When I complain to my contractor that the concrete they just poured a few months ago was cracking they just blew me off and said that’s normal so I have a Lotta respect for you
Yeah, cracks are kind of a given in certain areas. In Texas they would laugh at you if you asked them to redo this driveway. Cool to see someone do what he did here.
It depends why it's cracking. That was clearly bad material, it was falling apart. But, I would expect that a crack would form at some stage in any pour, because there are a lot of things about this that aren't perfectly predictable.
cracks are normal, concrete contracts and expands, you will get shrinkage cracks.
Yeah when I built my house I hired two guys that were plasters for outside walls and they did front concrete slab. It cracked in a lot of places and their response was that’s normal. So I’ve learned how to do it myself and poured and concrete slab yesterday
Yeah sure you did. I’m sure any noob can just watch a UA-cam video than decide they are going to pour their own slab.
Odell, you can save a sample of the concrete you just took out and have it tested at a lab for strength. Then compare the results with what you actually paid for. That should be proof enough for the concrete plant.
Yes I did save a chunk.
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Just make sure you tell them all the extra crap you did wrong like calcium adding fiber on the job your stupid stuff of moving a form because your guys can't straight edge right which takes up more time how many times did you have driver add water to the load? Bring it people 22 years driving mixer truck I know what went wrong. Plus you don't bullfloat with the driveway you go against itside to side.
@@jodyallenbaugh9427 buddy your a driver. Truck drivers are some of the dumbest people on the planet. It does not matter what way you bill float. Adding fiber is only better for the concrete, and adding water isnt the emd of the world. Id rather add water and know im gonna have plenty of time to get on it then race because its setting fast af. Just so its not footers or anything super important its not a big deal. Id never take any tips from a driver😂 you have no experience, youve just watched people do it. Gtfoh
@@jodyallenbaugh9427 I wish I knew how the Romans did it. Their concrete has lasted 2,000 years without cracking.
😠😡😠
I worked for a concrete contractor back in the 1980s and quality conrete made a huge difference. The newest plant washed the sand and gravel so it was clean and easy to work with
I really respect your integrity. So many contractors would have wanted to bury such a mistake. It's great to see someone who stands by their work and is willing show how things sometimes don't work out.
It's this or get sued
I have to say, I'm extremely impressed by you guys. Being in construction myself, you see so many people cut corners, especially with compaction of the base material. The only thing I might add, get your guys a larger compactor.
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@@OdellCompleteConcrete was this just a bad batch of concrete?
@@mattthemorningafter most likely, if there was something in the mix that’s not supposed to be in there it could weaken the concrete which is what happened here
Could be a bad mix, it's all cracked in the same way you would see from concrete that had maybe to much water. Settling is usually a spot not consistant across a few yards of dried pave.
@@mattthemorningafter ive never seen those surface cracks all over like that
I like and subscribe to your channel. The fact that you showed your "mistakes" and will fix the problem is huge, you gained respect 10 fold right there.
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@@OdellCompleteConcrete i wasn't your mistake. It was the plant that sent you the first batch. Thats what I think
@@joegarcia4424 I agree, but it makes good business sense to make it right for the customer.
That wasn’t his mistake. It was junk mix!
Way to keep your customers happy!!!! That will be your best advertisement right here!!!! And the way you narrate your videos is so helpful and informative!!!!
Ty
Kudos to you for taking care of the customer. That speaks volumes of your integrity and character. I wish you well
TY
YT
Solid business buddy! I know this wasn’t ideal but you stand behind your work. That speaks volumes. Good work my man. Wish you were near me.
Me too
TY
Good to see you stand behind your work.
Was it safe and serviceable over those 6 months?
Absolutely Beautiful. I like the cutlines!! National better stand up for that first batch and the next!
As a concrete worker myself I got to say that I'm very impressed by the integrity and work these guys have. Looks like the compactor may need to be replaced with a bigger one or just a new one, seems it was having issues. What really had me a bit worried was the brooming itself i'm used to doing those in 1 pass either pull or push/pull through the whole slab because I get worried that those multiple passes with the broom will either give me a different broom look all around or have a ugly in-between spot. Yeah the brooming does fade away eventually and you dont notice the marks later but thats usually years down the line.. anyway cheers and great work!
He hints that it was the cement provider
A lot of scumbags out there with no self respect or respect for their customers, who pay their hard earned money to people that can easily take advantage of them. People live in these houses, and flybys ruin the industry, most of them lowlife junkies and alcoholics. Some home owners are looking to scam as well, but most just want to pay an honest amount to have some decent looking work done on their property, safely.
@@mattblah7737 you seem to be angry .
Absolutely
I live in Miami, I work in environmental drilling and we do some concrete work, installing 2’x2’ concrete pads and when I see these concrete driveways and the walls SPLATTERED w mud… drives me nuts! Good to see some people take their job seriously. Beautiful finish. Love the neat tricks. Taught me something for sure.
Great
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Great job as always. Yeah.. you could even here the sound of the concrete when you were breaking it. Sounded hollow n a little bit less dense than other concrete. Keep em coming OCC!!
Yes it was weak
Very professional approach and workmanship..... In UK we don't really do so many concrete drives, more to do now with surface water not being run off onto highway, so they need to be permeable.... Or soak away.. Excellent video
I love your no nonsense approach to film making, awesome channel.
You guys are great! You stand behind and take responsible for your work. I would love to hire the people like you to do my back yard concrete.
Me too
TY
Sucks to go back to a job but it’s good to see you back up your work. Great job👍🏻 and congrats to the winner
To hammer that all out and re pour shows you are a honest reliable company A+
Dave is the perfect example of standing by your work and great customer service. He is a true professional in every sense. Good job.
Well it’s either replace it or get sued and have your reputation tarnished
Somethings things go wrong. Kudos to you Dave, for showing us what can happen and how you remedy it.
Yes
TY
Good to see someone that stands behind their work. The contractor that built our house poured the concrete for the driveway late in the fall when the weather was just above freezing in the daytime, and below freezing at night. It started flaking off right away. He wouldn't do anything about it, and I didn't have the money to take him to court.
That's a tough situation
Only concrete I've ever poured at or below freezing is smaller scale industrial concrete with NCA accelerator. All cosmetic concrete I won't pour if the forecast shows any days or nights dropping below 45 degrees over the next 7 days
Refreshing to see someone stand behind their work. Looks nice.👍
Driver doesn't know sh$$t .
You people Rock, great to see a contractor that cares! Thanks for sharing your work!
TY
Respectable contractor, thank you for standing by your work. Guys that don’t make us look bad. No matter what trait it’s all the same. Do to others as you would want done to you
I concur
TY
Now that's a good contractor. Admits his mistakes, shows the world and then fixes it. We need more people like you in this world.
It wasn't his mistake. The cement was crap hopefully the company he used for the pour reimbursed him.
@@ac7438 He has to stand by the mix he used unfortunately. Maybe he has the ability to get reimbursed for the faulty mix but who knows.
I hope so
@@ac7438 technically it wasn't his fault, but the homeowner pur their trust in him and trusted him to use quality products. It sucks and I personally don't blame him as well. When you buy something from a store and it's crap and have to return it, you deal with the store that sold it not the manufacturer. He corrected it so he earned my respect. Hoping the concrete company reimbursed him as well. But I bet he thinks twice about using them again.
Uses the same concrete company
That looks great, you guys are artists! Glad to see there are people out there who take pride in their work.
Same thing happened to my dad's patio a few years ago. I didn't bother calling the company back because I already knew they wouldn't redo it. You're a good guy Odell.
If the concrete is no good, it has to be replaced
There’s something so satisfying about watching a well done concrete pour.
I hear you
TY
I have to say, its nice to see a contractor do the right thing for the customer when stuff like this happens! Nice job!
I concur
TY
Nice to see but very rare in my experience. The blame game and , we did the job right and that’s it are too common. Wish you guys were in the Ohio area.
It shows that you guy's know concrete! Very nice work it shows in the time and effort you put forth.
First time watcher. Know nothing about concrete other than it looks beautiful when it's wet and just about finished. Loved the video and your commitment to doing the job well. Thank you.
Welcome aboard
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I've had to do this twice in my short career. Alot of ready mix guys either don't clean out old concrete from prior jobs and mix Mudd with new or they load up 2000 psi concrete and misreport it as 3000 so they can pocket the extra dough and then owner calls and complains that the concrete is cracking...hate when this happens I always ask for ticket upon truck arrival cuz it doesn't lie. New contractor here , Odell you are the example of excellent workmanship
My first impression was that he got a hot load of concrete - otherwise known as "come back concrete." If the driver doesn't back spin his drum to get rid of the previous remnants, it can cause rapid cement hydration of the next batch. it only takes a little bit to spoil the whole next load.
@@smo-guiver8315 very true
This deserves more than 10 m views. This man fights for every inch with his work. If it is not done correctly he will remake the whole thing. It's pride that this man teaches.
Thats a good trait to teach. I never thought of that.
TY
Not every inch ! What about the side yard concrete and 4 foot crack ? Lol
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Nice job I know absolutely nothing about this trade. But I found this video informative to say the least and I enjoyed watching it. So you definitely earned my subscription and thumbs up! Also very honest very and integrity on your part for standing up to your quality of work!
Appreciation coming all the way from Boston,Massachusetts
The only thing better than not making mistakes, is having the integrity to own up to them and rectify the mistake. Well done sir.
SO AWESOME! So happy I won! I have emailed you guys! Always look forward to y’all’s content! Thank you so much!
congrats
@@rawkusrex thank you!
Great I'll mail it out Tomorrow
wear it well Atj!! congrats :)
Congratulations 🎉🎈. Blessings
Hello Odell, great job there. Impressive. I really liked your new saw. I actually like the subtleness of the cut lines vs the larger radius of the edger trowels for joints. A lot less debris collecting in the joints too. I might try that next time I pour a pad.
Youll love it.
GL
4'' thick----cut every 4 feet ------ 5inch thick --cut every 5 feet
GREAT WORK U REMIND ME OF MY DAD HE DOES CONCRETE ALSO HERE IN ARKANSAS…… have a great day sir god bless
I think it's your voice. A calm reassuring voice. Relaxing and calming.
The second time is always the charm. Time is money. I appreciate the labor. Cool video
We had this happen last year on 2 separate jobs. Both times the concrete co sent out a rep to look at it and collect samples before we demoed it. They covered cost of mud both times on the repours. I hope your concrete co took care of you
Did they cover labor?
I hope so
TY
I’m glad everyone is being positive with you. Sometimes stuff just happens. Also the homeowners are amazing I’m glad they got their driveway repaired. Also you guys are really good clearly you guys. Know what your doing.
ty
Rare to see integrity like what you are showing and great that you didn’t run but Stead by your commitment.
Be good to see an update on this slab to see how it holdsout as against the first one. Looks really nice.
Yes that would be good
Been watching for a while and I appreciate the honest work you do. I'll be calling in the coming year or so for some work to be done at my house.
TY
Mixer driver here. What we do if we have to add Super P or any other admix product on site (including fiber) is we roll the drum backwards and bring the concrete up to a point where the additive slides off the hopper directly onto the concrete, then give it a three to five minute stir.
That way, you're not having to rinse product off the fins and sides of the drum with a big shot of water; the concrete stays at the slump it arrived.
Thank you for posting this video. I wanted to try to fix my driveway, it’s nice to know what could happen.
Thanks for showing this things aren’t always perfect !
That job had nothing to do with their ability it was a shitty mix.
@@RHEC1776 didn’t say it was their craftsmanship, just saying given the situation. Kind of would think an aged and experience mason would spot a bad mix from the first poor but I’m no expert.
@@RHEC1776 LESSON 101 STAND BEHIND your customer....no matter the issue, and there could be many. As a Company David STOOD behind the customer and did the RIGHT thing. I know it's a pain as a business owner (which I am) and a client (which I am some times), but you ALWAYS win when you do the right thing. Never hang your head down low on a job like this, this will make you SHINE. I go back 100% of the time to companies I had an issue with and they rectified it.....100% of time I am a loyal customer to them. When they say, "it's not right let us correct it" You got my business 100%. I know it's a pain both ways, but I am a customer for life when it happens....Hope that encourages David.
@@xxxdpgxxxx1389
As you say: You're no expert.
Leave the thinking and rectifying to the experts.
Good grief. This video's not about preventing problems ... it's the question: What are you gonna do about the problem?
Anyways. Go to a man of God who knows the difference between titles baptism and baptism in the title-name-title of Lord Jesus Christ
@@xxxdpgxxxx1389 When concrete is delivered it comes with a bill of lading and that bill usually has the mix contents , batch plant name or sub plant and sack weight in tensile strength. And various other engineering data. It also has Date of Delivery, date of blend. That is how it is in my Part of California and Odell is 2 to 3 hours or so north of me with different Concrete batch plants. At the 12:32 time Mark in the video Odell talks about the concrete mix and the ratio to 12 . To wet it is unusable to dry is is unusable. There is no way to determine the mixture components other than the amount of visible gravel, you have to trust that the plant is delivering the concrete that the customer ordered.
Good for you to show this.
This is very hard work. I just had a driveway and patio and steps poured and the way you have to work it and fast is an art.
Beautiful work, well done !
Great video, ya gotta respect all tradesmen that stand over their work, I’m sure this guy will benefit hugely in recommendations for future work in the neighbourhood. Well done guys
I concur
TY
Yes I respect that your company stood by their work. I would suggest using chairs in the future to hold up your reinforcement. I saw your boys pulling up the steel as they went along but it’s tough keeping that steel up when your stepping on it while working the concrete. If you review your video you will see that most of your reinforcement was on or near the ground which means your rods were useless on countering any tensile stress on any ground upheaval.
Wow what a man of integrity that would take care of issue with no problem at all. You have my respect
TY
Hat off to you!!!. Stand by your work and the material used. Most contractors will give excuses, take advantage of clients' lack of knowledge to prevent re-work and additional expenses.
I concur
Ty
I'm curious about ALL the concrete that came from that company on the same day! This could be even worse being pumped up six stories on a building or parking garage! The inspector would shut it down FAST! Good on you for fixing the problem and having your customers back! Awesome job!
Structural concrete gets tested and is notified before it is batched.
As an old structural concrete contractor in S. CA. I've had aggregate react with chemicals in the concrete & pop out, leaving little to big craters. I hope you took some of the broken pieces & took them to a lab for strength testing, I'll bet it did not have enough cement in the mix the way it came apart, I doubt it would come up to 2000psi.
I also hope the redimix co. did not charge you for the second time.
He refuses to respond to you because he knows the mix was insignificant
@@jimbo7042 when doing the demo he mentions the concrete is weak so that is likely the real problem as the poster has mentioned.
The long cracks appeared because water was absorbed into the ground faster than it evaporated from the top - wetting the soil mitigates it by 10% tops, you need to put a 3mil on the ground to eliminate water absorptions. The "spider web" cracks are happening because the surface dried faster then it should - cover it for 3-4 days and actually slightly wet the surface every day in the morning. These guys pour concrete like amateurs and therefor get these poor results.
I believe he said the owner was covering the cement that helps him by not having to pay it all out of pocket.
@@georgescott6049 My point was if the test proved the concrete was not up to at least 200psi it is their fault & should not change him for the second loads.
When I bought my house eleven years ago when it was new and the concrete started cracking I was told concrete gets hard, concrete crack and nobody will steal it! So I very much respect that you are taking care of the customer!
Those are all true statements.
TY
dried out too fast
Totally agree with "2Near" below, his comments were right on. Congrats for being a true craftsman that stands by his word and work! Someone like you is hard to find this day in age and you should be proud of yourself!
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Richard
Always hear ppl say "why would I call back a contractor who did a bad job ?"...because it costs a lot and you have to give a guy a chance to fix it...that's integrity 💪👍👌
But if this happens again. It can cost you future clients.
“He” didn’t do a “bad job”, something was wrong with the concrete mix/ratios from the concrete plant/company. It happens sometimes. As long as it’s properly fixed & doesn’t cost the homeowner anymore to fix it, then customers will still talk & spread great things (word-of-mouth) about his work ethic & integrity… & that he can be trusted to come back & fix anything should they somehow experience any (generally rare/uncommon) issues. Nothing better than knowing it’ll be done & done right, or it WILL be done again 100% on the company’s dime. 🤷♀️
I concur
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@@ashleyfalcon125 Well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't care if it was for free.
My own house, maybe. But not for a customer who are paying thousands.
in my case was, the bad job was apparent DURING the process, asking him to fix it just lead to him abandoning the job half way. Now I got a law suit in my hands.
We need more contractors like you. Sure, you probably lost $ here but you honored your company name. You can’t put a price on that. Good job and thanks for sharing.
Thanks
Your voice puts me in a trance like state of learning. Thank you for that
Sure
TY
You’re a man of integrity and it will always pay off in life.
I concur
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I'm impressed with your Customer Service on your work Warranty 👍. Has concrete prices gone down ?. Dave.
No, only up
Up and up, and then additional charges like Environmental surcharge $49.00 per truck and if you are doing Public Works $200.00 extra per truck
Yeah, I agree there was something wrong with original material mix. Not enough cement in the mix, perhaps. Or maybe original pour was already curing and the truck operator added extra water to make it out the chute. Or maybe a little of both.
If you were near me, I'd have you do all of my work. Your honesty means everything.
I wish
TY
awesome work , the more I see this kind of work , it makes me appreciate the Time that goes into it ~~ respect to you for standing by your Name and service!! Kudos!
TY
Wow!... Imagine being a startup contractor and this happens in the first month of business... The concrete company may cover for the material and all but, still... equipment rental, labor hours, rebars... So responsible an ethical from OCC to back up his work... heck, maybe he is an occ of his customers satisfaction and work quality, and protects it with great work.
It would be tough.
It's difficult to get the concrete provider to pay.
It takes a lot of money.
I just framed 600 square ft, plumber tore it all out to install sump pump plumbing that wasn't needed. Watching them everyday piece it all back.
Would resufer work ?
Homeboy called it…no Bueno
People don't business like you do anymore. Great integrity!
Your right
TY
Mad respect to you. So hard to find pride and integrity. Well done.
TY
First off, thanks for standing behind your work. That's the mark of a pro for sure! But I have a few questions.
1. I've noticed those holes in concrete before have been caused by pumping on muddy ground and chunks of mud are just finished over. Then a few days or weeks later, the finish breaks through and the mud gets washed out. Could that be the case?
2. I would think that creating the control joint with a deep jointer would be better because you establish the control before the curing process ever starts. Am I missing something?
Not a question but a comment, a few cheap insurance policies I use are, I've never had a complaint about too any saw cuts. Only visible cracks. I add fiber to everything, and I always have the plant bring at least 1 test cylinder for every 50yds. I label them with address, date, and time, and I keep them until the warranty expires.
Great ideas.
The first pour is on the channel
The cylinder thing is actually really clever. That way you have the receipts, so to speak.
My career was in concrete, asphalt, sand & gravel. Adding fiber to 'everything' you pour is a waste of money in 90% of the applications you are likely doing. Most issues/problems in concrete boil down to two reasons- 1-poor materials going into the making of the concrete and 2- poor/incorrect sitework and finishing of the mix.
I've batched and oversaw the batching of concrete for everything from driveways to high rise buildings and had less than 100 yards rejected in my entire career over 30 years. Quality control of materials and finishing is highly overlooked.
@@id10t98
"less than 100 yards rejected in my entire career over 30 years"
I too like to weave tall tales!
@@id10t98 the advantage of fiber depends on what climate zone you're in. Water to cement ratio is critical.
I remember being a qc inspector and making cylinders for city work. Then when the cylinders cure we would take them back to the lab, break them, and log it. This video reminds why the job exists lol great video!
Yup. If it's a question of who's responsible maybe they should be making cylinders, do a slump cone test, check the air content, unit weight and temperature tests... the usual stuff at a site. Maybe even test the soil subgrade and inspect the concrete materials and verify the mix design. Who's going to pay for all of that? If it should come down to who was at fault... it's pay me now or pay me later. The contractor should be covering his backside.
You have all my respect for your business integrity!!
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I had my driveway done in September 2021. A couple of weeks ago I noticed spalling all over. The sidewalk and side drive they installed are still perfect, but when I called the contractor he kept telling me that it was because of the extreme temperatures here in Chicago this winter. I know I’m screwed because he didn’t want to fix issues like wide spaces against my house or where the drive meets up with my garage floor. I had to insist to make him fix it. Ugh! I wish I had an honest person like you David!
Yes that's a tough situation.
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Love the videos, and I think you guys do some nice work, I’ve just always wondered why you trowel a driveway before a broom finish, when you can get a super clean flat finish from a mag, and a good straightedge man. I feel like troweling and brooming over works the concrete and weakens it to the point where when it fully cures in high temps you get surface cracks and Spaulding.
It consolidates the surface and gets harder
I noticed if I hit the concrete with the steel to fast I had cracking also when it is too hot I think wet curing helps. Awesome content nice to see guys stand behind their work.
I hope you get to test a sample of the concrete, because I have never seen anything like it, the tiny small cracks and there was nothing that held it together, there will probably also be a refund with the concrete supplier which must be settled. Hope you will share the result, as always nicely done work.
I saved some of it.
Very informative. I did not know so much went into this type of job. Well done!
Glad it was helpful!
I can’t believe your removed and replaced the concrete ! 🥳🥳🥳👍🏻 you are a classy guy! You even said “PLACED” the concrete! Amazing,!!!
Wow, thanks!
I trouble shot concrete for many years as a cement sales rep for LONESTAR , BLUE CURCLE, LAFARGE AND CONTINENTAL CEMENT COMPANIES and never met a Concrete Contractor like you.
I enjoyed the video. I’m sure whoever mixed the concrete that you had to tear out probably didn’t mix the right amount of ingredients. I’m thinking the small cracks could lead to a bigger problem if left alone . Great job I enjoyed the redo😁😎👍
I concur
Contaminated materials
Damn Odell I heard you huffin and puffin quiet a lot. Work on that cardio man haha
Need to use one inch minus rock for driveways there no strength in peegravel mix the bigger the rock the better
I need to work less, and talk more
Respect to u. There needs to be more respectable people in this world like you. Too many crooks in this world that wouldn't have been honest like this man
I agree.
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I'm not a concrete guy, however I enjoy watching jobs like this because you see the result in a matter of a few days of work. Satisfying.
If the concrete was substandard who eats the cost, your company or the concrete company? Do you split the cost? I appreciate your good, conscientious work ethic, Mike. I have learned a lot from you!
It's tough place be.
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Well, it all depends. If you have a long standing and good relationship with the ready mix company, they MAY comp the replacement ready mix. If not, it would cost you probably a minimum of $2,000 to sue them and cause further bad blood long term. So, 2 grand to replace less than 2grand. You MAY be able to sue for your entire loss, but still, is it worth it? What if you lose? Have there been multiple instances of this? What would it cost to have the problem concrete analyzed? Who can say that you or one of your guys didn't re-temper the mix with additional water or add additional water to the surface that was "getting away" from them the day it was poured? Sometimes you just have to eat it. It sucks but that's the world we live in. Doing the right thing, as he did here, will pay long term dividends in reputation and word of mouth referrals down the road.
the mix company sends out replacement but claims no fault or labor costs
Your load of concrete was put in top of expired concrete that was still in the barrel.
That's why it turned to powder instead of breaking into chunks.
Start taking samples at your job sites and the chance of getting bad product will stop immediately
I believe your absolutely right
And they probably had to add extra water to make up for that, which made it weaker. Looks like there was too much water on the surface
great stuff. way to go on the replacement. that's a a contractor that stands by his work!
Because he was 90% the reason it failed... I've never seen concrete go that bad that fast... Who knows maybe they put the flyash in the cement silo...
Good Man of Integrity. Beautiful work!
Would it be smart to vibrate that concrete especially working with a thicker mix? I would guess there are some areas with bubbles and voids just doing by hand.