Man some single channel ram causes issues in XMP beacause you put ram in a wrong DIMM Slot. I used to have crashing , blue screen problem with my Ram @3200mhz on My gigabyte motherboard then I updated the bios of the motherboard in a latest update. Then I got a warning massage that your ram placed in wrong DIMM Slot put the ram on last 4th number DIMM. After the ram on right slot my Crashing issues is fixed and I can use my ram in full speed
@@ErenJaegerT9 Were you dropped on your head as a baby? Dual channel RAM is Single channel RAM there is literally no physical or operational difference. All the dual channel kits do is match sticks with the exact same timings together so you do not need to play around in BIOS setting them manually to the speed of the slower stick. You could have one 2133mhz stick at 6-6-6-16 and one1866mhz stick at 7-7-7-15 and they would work just fine in dual channel mode at 1866mhz at 7-7-7-16, as these are the lowest values across both sticks. You can also mix the sizes just fine, however you will only get double channel speeds from the memory in parity so if you had one 4GB stick and one 8GB stick you would only use 4GB from each stick in dual channel with 4GB operating in single channel speed! The warning you are receiving is due to something called trace lengths, these are the circuits on the motherboard the more equal these lengths are the more stable dual channel operation will be due to signal timing, the tighter the timings the more important it is for these trace lengths to be identical. Please do not give advice if you do not understand what you are talking about. I have had several top 3Dmark world scores and actually understand all this stuff properly.
For me, updating the bios solved the issue. I was afraid to update but then I saw one of the patch notes on the site mentioning xmp profiles, so I updated, enabled xmp, and now my pc is both stable and fast
Updating the bios also worked for me, although almost bricked my pc first attempt. At least it works and now I don’t have games crashing every 10 minutes
Also note this is good advice for when your pc doesn’t boot. Especially if you buy 2 sets of 2x16gb. 4 sticks can’t normally run at the listed speed so you keep knocking the speed down til it boots up
I have 2x 16gb ddr5 cl36 6000mt/s, let’s say i get another kit with the same specs. Should I be able to run the ram at at least 5600mt/s or will I have to drop down even lower. Don’t know if it matters but I’m on a msi pro z790 p
@@nuccibebo_for ddr5 specifically I'd recommend getting a 2 x 32gb kit instead, and sell the old ones. Since using 2 sticks instead of 4 is apparently better for ddr5. Unsure what you need 64gb ram for though
I'm actually getting sick of this myth. All RAM should work fine in XMP in all 4 slots, at the factory it has been QVL (Qualified Vendors List), if you buy from something not on this list then that is your own fault! . If it doesn't something is faulty, normally it is the trace lengths on cheap motherboards. Populating all the slots only becomes an issue when you run the RAM above its specified timings not frequency as this is when trace length becomes important! Tighter timings, more accurate trace lengths needed. Many people would actually get a speed boost in games by dropping the frequency and tightening the timings. You can then over-volt the RAM (Quite safe, just check the limit for your CPU as overvolting RAM with modern chips actually over-volts the controller inside your CPU) and then push the frequency back up to where it was or even higher! ALWAYS START WITH THE TIMINGS AND THEN ONTO THE FREQUENCY.
For me it worked when I put the voltage up by 0.05V, the support from MSI said so, so I tried it. So from 1.35V to 1.40V in my case. With that I could keep the speed.
A little more voltage or looser timings is the traditional way to fix instability. XMP is just overclocking on easy mode, the sticks have at least been tested to run at the advertised speeds.
Idk if i should try it or not. Recently my pc had been crashing multiple times in day when i upgraded the gpu and cpu in a newly built pc. I was initially dumb enough to buy 4060ti 16Gigs. Then i returned it and bought 7900 xt and patched it with ryzen 7 7700. Since then my system crashed multiple times on msi pro b650m b. I researched and saw that the VRMs are not powerful enough to support the card and processor so i returned it and bought msi pro b650 s wifi. Now the system crashed at least 1-2 times a day performing only browsing on two browsers. Today i lowered the ram speed from 6000 to 5200 MHz. It should have crashed till now normally but hasn't till yet. I have a problem with it. i installed 6000 mhz for good speed. I don't want it to be at 5200 mhz. Please lemme know if anyone here knows how to fix it.
@@smuq7359 I had the same issue with my old RAM, I even also have an MSI motherboard. Look on their website for your motherboard and the RAM compatibility. MSI has a bunch of different RAM listed out. I had to go down from 6000 all the way to 3600, even on DDR5! It sucks but the stability is more important. I just got new RAM from Lexar so hopefully 5600 at 1.25V works!
The processor must support the ram frequency in ram sticks, unless it will get black screen or crash and even some games like valorant or cs2 will give a memory dump.
Most Motherboards have a list of supported RAM sticks and their speeds and configuration. Dont forget that. I would search online sometimes its better to have less frequency because you can decrease the timings a lot
I love learning about computer and I gotta admit I really enjoy when your video is in my algorithm, I trust you and you actually spill knowledge. Respect !!
Looking at the XMP profile it seems to say DDR4-3603, maybe just even turning it down to 3600 would work if that's an option. Also reseating the sticks, checking how updated your board's BIOS is and checking what RAM speeds your CPU is compatible with might be good ideas
Thanks for your great videos bro , I was panicking over it , thinking my new rams have problems Lowered the frequency from 6600 to 6400 everything is fine now
I've been building, modding and servicing PCs for over 30 years. In my opinion rather than down clocking the ram, my first port of call would be slowly, and carefully increasing the dram voltage. Also with AMD platforms specifically, bios upgrades did and still can improve memory compatibility a lot. It can help Intel builds too but on early Ryzen platforms it was a massive issue
@@philholder-z5m i just updated it and it wont let me do it, i tryh to selt voltage to 1.35 or 1.4 and nothing, but when i have one ram stick in it will let me. i am on a msi b550 gaming plus. ram is corsair vengeance rated at 3600mhz two 16 gb sticks. and my cpu is 5600x.
And to be very clear it’s unlikely you’ll notice a substantial change in performance when dropping the frequency as you can’t play games when the PC is crashing.
Mine kept doing this. Turned out to be an issue with my cpu (R5 3600). I learned that a good number of those chips have faulty or poopy memory channels or whatever. Too bad I dealt with it too long to get a refund for it lol Got a 5600X with my new card and it's all running perfectly now. ❤
@@Gantali9305 3200. Tried it at 3000, 2800, and lower, and the crashing lessened the lower it was set. I had to use the default 2133 speed to avoid any issues.
@@winter4498 yeah you were right to. I had my cousin try to run a 3950x at 3600 and we discovered the memory controller wasn't rated to run that fast so thought it may have been the same issue.
@@Gantali9305 Oh gotcha. Yeah it's kinda dumb. I saw some videos from Greg Salazar mentioning that the 3000 series were dying on a lot of people, often due to failing memory controllers, and I was afraid mine would suffer the same fate, but I guess I was just huffing copium cause I denied that was the issue for a while. Turns out that's the case. :(
That's why my R5 3600 has so Issues! I have a R7 3700X, XMP stable @ 3200Mhz, and a .0750 undervolt. My R5 I had to disable XMP and could only get a .0250 undervolt.
⚠️ WARNING: Advertised and rated speeds might have a discrepancy. Companies like Corsair, Kingston, etc., advertise the speed at which the memory was tested and rated. If it's advertised as 6000MHz, it means it was tested and rated for that speed. However, several factors could prevent it from running at that speed consistently, especially during demanding tasks like gaming. If you're familiar with memory overclocking principles, manually decreasing the speed could be a viable solution. Otherwise, reaching out to the seller to explore a replacement might be necessary.
If it's crashing on the advertised speed, instead of slowing the ram, give it just a touch of additional voltage for example DDR4 works in between 1.2V 1.35V. 1st step check the voltage for the Ram 2. Check on the Internet about the ram and the recommended voltage. 3. If it's staying on 1.2 with the enabled XMP - set it on 1.35V (For DDR4). 4. If it's on 1.35V and still crashes you can set it first on 1.36V. if it's not stable so 1.37V, 1.375V, etc. until your ram is stable. Also checking the Timings is also a good thing. Sometimes even +CAS is enough to set the ram on stable.
On old Ryzen (Idk if it's really an issue now or even if it works the same way as it used to) you could increase the memory controller voltage which could allow your ram to run at the manufactured speed or higher. Idk about Intel though but it's always worth a try. 👍
It's a motherboard problem. My friend faced that kind of problem a few days ago. So he changed his motherboard. Everything is okay. You should go for a warranty if you face this. But make sure it's not the RAM issue.
I had this issue with AMD EXPO. I kept updating the motherboard BIOS every time a new update was available, until one day the issue was gone. If it is a new motherboard, perhaps a new CPU too, it might just be a matter of waiting a few months.
As a general tip, for older ryzen systems (Zen1 and Zen+), i would recommend people start at 2666 and try to go up. My 2600x could not run more than that. I now run a 5700x and that runs at 3200 all day long.
For me the fix was to get an another pack of the same ram, my pc didnt liked to only have 2 stick of ram with xmp but it changed and work like a charm when I putted 2 more sticks...
had this problem for months but the fix was changing the load line calibration from level 5 to level 3,so i think it was the voltage holding the ram back
Usually on AMD, it's the FLCK frequency that really matters. You can also bump up the voltage a bit to stabilize it at the advertised speeds. A lot of DDR4 3200 MHz kits can make it even past 4000 MHz, but the FLCK frequency cannot. I'm using DDR4 3600 megahertz at 4133, but that's only because the FLCK cannot keep up.
Thanks man . U safe my day. using 5600 with b550m steel lgnd and 16x2 3600mhz .default speed 2400 turn on xmp get bsod.now xmp with 3200 and yeah .400mhz 🕊️
One of the reasons why I prefer MBs with auto OC and separate OC processor, that keeps everything checked all the time (it says it on a box). In bios you just enable it, PC reboots several times, and my CPU is 3600->4000 and memory is set to 3600. It does more, but I don't remember what, it shows it in bios and during save.
Hey, I just found another fix of this issue. It leads to the advertised RAM Speeds! 1. Firstly if the PC supports that XMP/ DOCP Speed in one click, Then Good Job😊😊😊 2. If not then down the speed by 200mhz (You said before 😅😅) 3. After a safe boot, head to BIOS and change the BLCK Frequency by increasing little bit from 100. 0000. For my Ryzen 7 5700g it worked at 106.6875 BLCK Frequency with 1R two sticks of 16Gigs of RAM. Hope that helps😅😅
I have two sticks of 8gb ddr4 sticks in my pc that's rated at 3200mhz. For so long, my pc has been bluescreening and crashing whenever i play a heavy game and happen more often when I stream at the same time. I had a hard time trying to fix it until recently. i tried dropping from 3200 to 3000, and it fixed it. It felt so good to finally not crash anymore.
For me the fix was to slot the ram into A2 and B2 instead of A1 and B1, for a strange a reason dual channel only works on these slots on newer Asus motherboard
You also have to look at supported mobo mhz rates too. My mobo can support up to 5200 mhz and when my ram was running at 6000 mhz speed, my pc was crashing all the time. Then i lowered the ram speed to 5200 and never had a blue screen after that.
I wasn't able to make XMP work for a year. The whole time I had my ram in slots 1 and 3. After a BIOS update, my bios suggested i switch to slots 2 and 4, and then XMP worked perfectly.
I'm still not entirely sure what the deal with it was, but I had an issue back in 2021 when upgrading to a 32gb 3600mhz kit from G.skill. (this was a 7700k on Z170) PC wouldn't even post at 3600, and would almost instantly blue screen all the way down at 3000. A whole month of blue screens later, even at 2133, and I decided to just sift through the BIOS and check what frequencies and voltages were "normal" compared to info online. Eventually I found a voltage that was set suspiciously low. (Like .4V instead of .7-.9) Something related to memory on the CPU itself. After making that change, the blue screens vanished for good. Haven't seen them since, and I'm still running the same CPU and memory just shy of 3 years later. I have no idea what I truly did, exactly, and I have even less of an idea of why it happened in the first place, when my old 16gb 2400mhz kit never hit BSOD. I've been meaning to take a peak again, because I think I saw that the RAM was running at 2133, but that literal month of blue screens still haunts me.
Tip: Check the website of whoever manufactured your processor. The processor itself will have a spec sheet showing the RAM speeds the processor can handle. How I learned my 10700k has to go soon.
This post SAVED my bacon. Even as an experienced builder, I could not for the life of me find out what was causing the crashes. I changed my PSU, GPU, SSD... I reinstalled windows... I went in and turned my TridentZ neo down from 3600 to 3400 and everything stabilized. I am a LITTLE disappointed that my 5800X3D and Strix B550 couldn't handle the 3600 speed ram... But it may have something to do with the fact that the bundle I purchased came with 4x 8GB sticks instead of 2x 16GB sticks. So Ryzen disliking 4 sticks may have had something to do with not liking 3600 but either way? Kinda sad really.
This was true for me. It seemed no tweak or tune would make it run full speed with XMP until I turned down the clocks. Also, upgrading from 16 to 32 gigs required a new set of 2x16 because it straight up will not boot with 4 sticks at any speed.
I got the two high-end cpu's in 2018 for both Intel and AMD. One is a 9900k, and the other is a 2700x. This was just before the Ryzen 3000 series. I had bought the 9900k to replace the 2700x as I had issues with it. I have 32gb of 3000mhz ram in both systems. The 9900k has had it overclocked to max speed since it was installed. The 2700x would crash and get the bsod at 3000mhz. I feel like it is just a problem for AMD based systems. I'm not saying that Intel doesn't have issues as well. I'm saying that Intel is more friendly when it comes to overclocking.
The memory controller on my old 2700x was a bit flakey. My 3200 kit would work but sometimes become unstable. That same kit with the 5800x3d is rock solid at 3600 mhz.
I had this issue too last year. Games kept crashing and the AMD drivers kept uninstalling when it happened. Tried multiple fixes and the only one that solved it was bumping my RAM from the advertised speed of 3600 down to 3200.
I got this kind of problem with 3200Mhz DDR4, it was because RAM was advertised at 3200Mhz but needed 1.30v to run with this frequency, so I had to put the XMP@3200Mhz + change my RAM voltage
Hey I have a xmp3200mhz 1.35v as well that won’t post when enabled, would changing it down to 1.30v help in my case? It’s running @ 2666 base and I wanna juice a little more out of it..
All modern or new mobos support ddr5 6000 mts and above but all cpus support xmp in dual channel only except for cpus like thread ripper, it can use quad channel.
On my case I have 3600mhz, which is a bit of a overkill for me, and when I enabled it to full speed my games were lagging like crazy, so I had to tune it down to 3200mhz. Now it works like a charm
Damn. Been having issues with my new ram, 4 sticks of 32gb 5400hz. My MSI bios is hella fucking hard to get into and reading these comments give me hope that my pc is gonna work fine for the first time in weeks. Booting my PC is a 50/50, pc randomly crashes, booting takes hella long, having to reset bios everytime I want to boot, problems like that all popped up after my ram and it runs at 3600hz speed. Much lower than what was advertised and I paid for 5600 hz speed and by god i will use it. So props to these comments, hopefully these fixes will help my pc not shit itself.
i had a slight twist on that, with xmp on my pc just crashed on boot. then i put the advertised speed and voltage in leaving the ram timings on auto and the last number was just by one higher than the advertisement. but my pc is running fine now
Has had sometime with troubleshooting/playing around in bios in regards to XMP enabled. I found that having DRAM Frequency is changed from "auto" and is set to your RAM stick specific speed. FCLK Frequency changes from "auto" To 1/3rd of your set RAM set speed. It will help stabilize the RAM and help prevent crashing from RAM speed/compatibility issues. Example(for DDR5 RAM Frequency is 5600/6000/6400mhz/mts FCLK Frequency will be set to 1866/2000/2167mhz/mts etc.) Hope someone finds this helpful!🙏
Yeah, when I enabled XMP, I kept blue screening on windows startup. Even though my mobo supported the speed, I guess it was still unstable, so I decreased to 5800 and works like a charm.
I have 12600k, that cpu supports speeds like 3200/3600 mhz. When i set xmp to anything between 3300-3600 my pc crashes or doesn't boot on 3600mhz and goes default speed 2666mhz. And then i xmp 3200mhz and it worked fine. So just know the speeds cpu supports and test the speeds in pc crashes or doesn't boot
I had the issue of the computer would not post with XMP enabled to 3600mhz on Corsair RGB PRO. Turned out it was the CPU causing the problem. Faulty memory controller on 11600kf. Swapped for an 11600k runs great now.
Also removing everything asus armoury crate saves your comp from crashing. My comp bsoded and crashed all the time no matter what speeds I put on expo. After deleting everything asus everything works.
1. Ram sticks in wrong slots (if you have 2 dim slots and 1 stick per channel, you are supposed to populate second one, and leave first one empty). PC will work if its in first slots (A1, B1, C1...) but performance is gonna be garbage. 2. Not enough power, sometimes sticks pull more power then motherboard is supplying, so one way would be to increase voltage, or if motherboard allows it, pump more current (on asus mbo it would be VDDCR Current Capability in AI Suite). Increasing voltage is better solution if you know what you are doing since increasing current may shorten power delivery components life. Second one may be solved by updating bios (and by updating bios, updating preset profiles settings that may increase voltage/current settings themselves). 3. You lost on silicon lottery and got CPU with awful memory controller.
Hey man, im buying my first pc but i dont really know wich gpu is the best for my pc, i have an AMD Ryzen 5 7600 but for my gpu i dont know if i should keep it at an rx 7600 or an nvdia gpu since an RX 6700 is above my buget, do you recomend one?
Some reason I had 3600mhz ram before and it worked fine then I got another kit that has same speed but only works at 35.33 as 36 will only work for some time until game randomly crashes
This makes me realize, I gotta get a new system. My BIOS is from 2016! I know, museum piece. But then I have to get a new CPU, and that's not in the budget, as I just recently spent a load on maxing out this old Z97S mobo. 32MB memory, I7 4790K Devil's Canyon CPU, all new SSD's, Cooler Master AIO, and to top it off a beautiful new MSI RTX-3060ti pushing out to a 43" 4K monitor. Runs all my stuff good, getting 60FPS max settings in RDR2, but man that BIOS is old! Probably should have spent my money on newer architecture, but I've always wanted to max out a mobo.
When I enabled xmp the pc stopped booting so I had to reset cmos and start again I dont know what software could tweak it, ill have to do some research myself
I've had a pretty decent assortment of issues after I swapped CPU+Mobo for the first time. the RAM I bought was rated at 6400mhz but I can only get 4800mhz out of it otherwise windows wont boot. I am not the most tech savvy guy so i dont wanna mess around with BIOS too much. but damn it has been a headache.
For the longest time, turning on XMP would crash my PC. But I kept trying and over time it finally worked!! Go figger! I have no idea what change on my system made that happen.
I $80 for Trident Z.skill rgb 16gb at 3600mhz, and I couldn't run it above 2133 without my PC failing to boot at all. I had to suffer like this for years until this black Friday I bought extra 16gb ram at 3600 and added it, somehow I can now run all 4 sticks at 3600mhz with not problems at all
It's important to not get hardware from the bottom of the barrel too. Cheap stuff is cheap for a reason. Occasionally there is an exception to that rule but those are few and far between. Just put in you due diligence and try to find out if there's a known reason it's cheap.
Update: My RAM says it's 2400MHz, Windows says 2133, i went to bios, selected the XMP profile and it stayed 2133. I manually changed to 2400, "save and reset" but my pc didnt reset, just froze without showing anything on screen. hold power button to turn off, turn back on and get an "Overclocking failed" message from american megatrends. change the DRAM Frequency to 1 step below 2400.... same thing. Reselect the only XMP profile i have and it took it back to 2133 and works like it used to before wait.... Just a day or two ago i made a comment not knowing that my ram speed is not at full and someone tried to help lol gonna need to look further into it again
Motherboard, voltage, and cpu all matter. You need to check the cpus highest possible ram speed. Then check the motherboards specs. And then fine tune it over that in small amounts
My Gksills TridentZ 16*2 kit is clocked at 3200....But, i can Oc it upto 3600 without any issues.. As i research it further found out that it was using samsung dye.. ❤
I had this issue with my first AM4 mobo, AsRock X570 Steel Legend with 3700X My GoodRam was not made for AMD processors I think. I had to tune down the speeds from 3600Mhz to like 3000Mhz. On other AsRock X570 mobo it works fine, thou the mobo's bios is fcked and it boots very long and resets everytime there is power cut off.
Yea enabling xmp prevents my pc from booting. Always be sure to check ram compatibility to your motherboard board so you don’t end up using ram tested for intel systems on an amd build. It works fine otherwise but I can’t enable xmp
I had to pull all of my RAM because they managed to cause the motherboard to throw a CPU light. Turns out I had to reset my XMP after swapping sticks. Set my XMP again and it works
I PAID FOR THE FULL SPEED I WILL USE THE FULL SPEED WITHOUT AN ISSUE
Man some single channel ram causes issues in XMP beacause you put ram in a wrong DIMM Slot. I used to have crashing , blue screen problem with my Ram @3200mhz on My gigabyte motherboard then I updated the bios of the motherboard in a latest update.
Then I got a warning massage that your ram placed in wrong DIMM Slot put the ram on last 4th number DIMM. After the ram on right slot my Crashing issues is fixed and I can use my ram in full speed
Fair bro lmao
unfortunately that's not what xmp means
Stick with ram on the qvl list for your mobo and it should be fine.
@@ErenJaegerT9 Were you dropped on your head as a baby? Dual channel RAM is Single channel RAM there is literally no physical or operational difference.
All the dual channel kits do is match sticks with the exact same timings together so you do not need to play around in BIOS setting them manually to the speed of the slower stick.
You could have one 2133mhz stick at 6-6-6-16 and one1866mhz stick at 7-7-7-15 and they would work just fine in dual channel mode at 1866mhz at 7-7-7-16, as these are the lowest values across both sticks. You can also mix the sizes just fine, however you will only get double channel speeds from the memory in parity so if you had one 4GB stick and one 8GB stick you would only use 4GB from each stick in dual channel with 4GB operating in single channel speed!
The warning you are receiving is due to something called trace lengths, these are the circuits on the motherboard the more equal these lengths are the more stable dual channel operation will be due to signal timing, the tighter the timings the more important it is for these trace lengths to be identical.
Please do not give advice if you do not understand what you are talking about. I have had several top 3Dmark world scores and actually understand all this stuff properly.
For me, the games stopped crashing after a week and it just balanced itself at the boosted speeds
Wait wa, you kept playing a week with the crashes? 😅
@@2Drip007 Exactly I would have been nervous as hell if something like that happened to me
@@JunaidAnsari-my2cx fr. Bro was so addicted to video games that he just casually dealt with crashes like it was nothing 😂
I've been playing an year with random blue screen until i fixed it myself@@2Drip007
@@2Drip007people with outdated PC's are just used to crashes. It's a daily thing for them
For me, updating the bios solved the issue. I was afraid to update but then I saw one of the patch notes on the site mentioning xmp profiles, so I updated, enabled xmp, and now my pc is both stable and fast
Updating the bios do be scary as hell tho.
Updating the bios also worked for me, although almost bricked my pc first attempt. At least it works and now I don’t have games crashing every 10 minutes
@@badmoose01only when you afraid of the power cuts out during the update
when i try to update my bios , the usb doesnt show up on bios and yes its formatted in fat32
@@xKilos you have to put it into a special usb port labeled with BIOS. If you don’t find it you can look on the manufacturer’s website.
Can confirm. My system wasn't stable until I bumped the speed down to 3000Mhz.
I had to bump mine down to 6200Mhz the ram it was at 7400Mhz and oh man the crashing
Also note this is good advice for when your pc doesn’t boot. Especially if you buy 2 sets of 2x16gb. 4 sticks can’t normally run at the listed speed so you keep knocking the speed down til it boots up
I have 2x 16gb ddr5 cl36 6000mt/s, let’s say i get another kit with the same specs. Should I be able to run the ram at at least 5600mt/s or will I have to drop down even lower. Don’t know if it matters but I’m on a msi pro z790 p
@@nuccibebo_for ddr5 specifically I'd recommend getting a 2 x 32gb kit instead, and sell the old ones. Since using 2 sticks instead of 4 is apparently better for ddr5.
Unsure what you need 64gb ram for though
@trikop7575 asseto corsa my guy 😭😭😭 NYC map uses 24 gigs in singleplayer with a few cars and I want to run a server
I'm actually getting sick of this myth. All RAM should work fine in XMP in all 4 slots, at the factory it has been QVL (Qualified Vendors List), if you buy from something not on this list then that is your own fault! . If it doesn't something is faulty, normally it is the trace lengths on cheap motherboards. Populating all the slots only becomes an issue when you run the RAM above its specified timings not frequency as this is when trace length becomes important! Tighter timings, more accurate trace lengths needed.
Many people would actually get a speed boost in games by dropping the frequency and tightening the timings. You can then over-volt the RAM (Quite safe, just check the limit for your CPU as overvolting RAM with modern chips actually over-volts the controller inside your CPU) and then push the frequency back up to where it was or even higher! ALWAYS START WITH THE TIMINGS AND THEN ONTO THE FREQUENCY.
So I’m lucky with my 4x 8 gb 3600 sticks that just run at the advertised speed ?
For me it worked when I put the voltage up by 0.05V, the support from MSI said so, so I tried it. So from 1.35V to 1.40V in my case. With that I could keep the speed.
A little more voltage or looser timings is the traditional way to fix instability. XMP is just overclocking on easy mode, the sticks have at least been tested to run at the advertised speeds.
Idk if i should try it or not. Recently my pc had been crashing multiple times in day when i upgraded the gpu and cpu in a newly built pc. I was initially dumb enough to buy 4060ti 16Gigs. Then i returned it and bought 7900 xt and patched it with ryzen 7 7700. Since then my system crashed multiple times on msi pro b650m b. I researched and saw that the VRMs are not powerful enough to support the card and processor so i returned it and bought msi pro b650 s wifi. Now the system crashed at least 1-2 times a day performing only browsing on two browsers.
Today i lowered the ram speed from 6000 to 5200 MHz. It should have crashed till now normally but hasn't till yet.
I have a problem with it. i installed 6000 mhz for good speed. I don't want it to be at 5200 mhz.
Please lemme know if anyone here knows how to fix it.
@@smuq7359 I had the same issue with my old RAM, I even also have an MSI motherboard. Look on their website for your motherboard and the RAM compatibility. MSI has a bunch of different RAM listed out. I had to go down from 6000 all the way to 3600, even on DDR5! It sucks but the stability is more important. I just got new RAM from Lexar so hopefully 5600 at 1.25V works!
Your vids help so much Zach. So much info. Best UA-camr as far as the pc world goes. Thanks for all you do. Looking to get my own pc one day.
The processor must support the ram frequency in ram sticks, unless it will get black screen or crash and even some games like valorant or cs2 will give a memory dump.
Most Motherboards have a list of supported RAM sticks and their speeds and configuration. Dont forget that. I would search online sometimes its better to have less frequency because you can decrease the timings a lot
I love learning about computer and I gotta admit I really enjoy when your video is in my algorithm, I trust you and you actually spill knowledge. Respect !!
I like the shorts like this talking about the tweaking things for beginners
I found your videos from mr.eyyster vids but your videos actually give really good advice!
Bro you saved my life - my pc. Love your content keep it up
Looking at the XMP profile it seems to say DDR4-3603, maybe just even turning it down to 3600 would work if that's an option. Also reseating the sticks, checking how updated your board's BIOS is and checking what RAM speeds your CPU is compatible with might be good ideas
Thanks for your great videos bro , I was panicking over it , thinking my new rams have problems
Lowered the frequency from 6600 to 6400 everything is fine now
Thanks for this! My kid has been having problems with random crashes on his new Pc. Hopefully this will help!
I've been building, modding and servicing PCs for over 30 years. In my opinion rather than down clocking the ram, my first port of call would be slowly, and carefully increasing the dram voltage. Also with AMD platforms specifically, bios upgrades did and still can improve memory compatibility a lot. It can help Intel builds too but on early Ryzen platforms it was a massive issue
Mine will only work with one ram stick when I have two it won’t let me go above 2133 no matter what I do any suggestions?
@Dean-tz3ve Have you updated the bios? What motherboard and CPU? What ram are you using?
@@philholder-z5m i just updated it and it wont let me do it, i tryh to selt voltage to 1.35 or 1.4 and nothing, but when i have one ram stick in it will let me. i am on a msi b550 gaming plus. ram is corsair vengeance rated at 3600mhz two 16 gb sticks. and my cpu is 5600x.
@@Dean-tz3ve I also have an MSI MB and the BIOS software doesn't let me change DRAM voltages...so stupid.
Just increase the voltage by a bit if that doesent work tune it down a notch like he said
And to be very clear it’s unlikely you’ll notice a substantial change in performance when dropping the frequency as you can’t play games when the PC is crashing.
Tip…. D-ram voltage usually plays a part when it crashes & loop boots …
When I got to enable the xmp the voltage is in red? Does that mean my power supply is too low?
It’s at 12.5 normally when I enable xmp it shows it at 13.5 but in red so I left it at normal. I’m only getting like 2600 on 3000mgz sticks
@@tonerz0fdubb716 12.5 ? Sure you don’t mean 1.25 ?
@@UKGUN1T sorry yes
@@UKGUN1T when I switch xmp on it reads 1.35 in red.
Mine kept doing this. Turned out to be an issue with my cpu (R5 3600). I learned that a good number of those chips have faulty or poopy memory channels or whatever. Too bad I dealt with it too long to get a refund for it lol Got a 5600X with my new card and it's all running perfectly now. ❤
What speed were you tying to run the memory at? The 3600 was only rated to 3200MT/s
@@Gantali9305 3200. Tried it at 3000, 2800, and lower, and the crashing lessened the lower it was set. I had to use the default 2133 speed to avoid any issues.
@@winter4498 yeah you were right to. I had my cousin try to run a 3950x at 3600 and we discovered the memory controller wasn't rated to run that fast so thought it may have been the same issue.
@@Gantali9305 Oh gotcha. Yeah it's kinda dumb. I saw some videos from Greg Salazar mentioning that the 3000 series were dying on a lot of people, often due to failing memory controllers, and I was afraid mine would suffer the same fate, but I guess I was just huffing copium cause I denied that was the issue for a while. Turns out that's the case. :(
That's why my R5 3600 has so Issues!
I have a R7 3700X, XMP stable @ 3200Mhz, and a .0750 undervolt. My R5 I had to disable XMP and could only get a .0250 undervolt.
⚠️ WARNING:
Advertised and rated speeds might have a discrepancy.
Companies like Corsair, Kingston, etc., advertise the speed at which the memory was tested and rated. If it's advertised as 6000MHz, it means it was tested and rated for that speed. However, several factors could prevent it from running at that speed consistently, especially during demanding tasks like gaming.
If you're familiar with memory overclocking principles, manually decreasing the speed could be a viable solution. Otherwise, reaching out to the seller to explore a replacement might be necessary.
If it's crashing on the advertised speed, instead of slowing the ram, give it just a touch of additional voltage for example DDR4 works in between 1.2V 1.35V.
1st step check the voltage for the Ram
2. Check on the Internet about the ram and the recommended voltage.
3. If it's staying on 1.2 with the enabled XMP - set it on 1.35V (For DDR4).
4. If it's on 1.35V and still crashes you can set it first on 1.36V. if it's not stable so 1.37V, 1.375V, etc. until your ram is stable. Also checking the Timings is also a good thing. Sometimes even +CAS is enough to set the ram on stable.
On old Ryzen (Idk if it's really an issue now or even if it works the same way as it used to) you could increase the memory controller voltage which could allow your ram to run at the manufactured speed or higher. Idk about Intel though but it's always worth a try. 👍
It's a motherboard problem. My friend faced that kind of problem a few days ago. So he changed his motherboard. Everything is okay.
You should go for a warranty if you face this. But make sure it's not the RAM issue.
I had this issue with AMD EXPO. I kept updating the motherboard BIOS every time a new update was available, until one day the issue was gone. If it is a new motherboard, perhaps a new CPU too, it might just be a matter of waiting a few months.
As a general tip, for older ryzen systems (Zen1 and Zen+), i would recommend people start at 2666 and try to go up. My 2600x could not run more than that. I now run a 5700x and that runs at 3200 all day long.
Your videos always leave me feeling inspired and motivated.
For me the fix was to get an another pack of the same ram, my pc didnt liked to only have 2 stick of ram with xmp but it changed and work like a charm when I putted 2 more sticks...
had this problem for months but the fix was changing the load line calibration from level 5 to level 3,so i think it was the voltage holding the ram back
Usually on AMD, it's the FLCK frequency that really matters. You can also bump up the voltage a bit to stabilize it at the advertised speeds.
A lot of DDR4 3200 MHz kits can make it even past 4000 MHz, but the FLCK frequency cannot.
I'm using DDR4 3600 megahertz at 4133, but that's only because the FLCK cannot keep up.
Just apply more voltage to the rams by a tiny amount.
The same thing is cpu overclocking, you add more voltage allowing it to utilitse the speed more.
Thanks man . U safe my day. using 5600 with b550m steel lgnd and 16x2 3600mhz .default speed 2400 turn on xmp get bsod.now xmp with 3200 and yeah .400mhz 🕊️
I try xmp on b550m a pro and thats no problem 3600 mhz 😵
this is late but 5600, 5600g and 5600x do not support faster than 3200mhz. tried it myself and got bsod. lower it to 3000 and it went well
Thanks dude, enabled XMP today and my pc crashed, i hope this would fix it
One of the reasons why I prefer MBs with auto OC and separate OC processor, that keeps everything checked all the time (it says it on a box). In bios you just enable it, PC reboots several times, and my CPU is 3600->4000 and memory is set to 3600. It does more, but I don't remember what, it shows it in bios and during save.
Hey, I just found another fix of this issue. It leads to the advertised RAM Speeds!
1. Firstly if the PC supports that XMP/ DOCP Speed in one click, Then Good Job😊😊😊
2. If not then down the speed by 200mhz (You said before 😅😅)
3. After a safe boot, head to BIOS and change the BLCK Frequency by increasing little bit from 100. 0000.
For my Ryzen 7 5700g it worked at 106.6875 BLCK Frequency with 1R two sticks of 16Gigs of RAM.
Hope that helps😅😅
I have two sticks of 8gb ddr4 sticks in my pc that's rated at 3200mhz. For so long, my pc has been bluescreening and crashing whenever i play a heavy game and happen more often when I stream at the same time. I had a hard time trying to fix it until recently. i tried dropping from 3200 to 3000, and it fixed it. It felt so good to finally not crash anymore.
Ive built 3 computers now for personal use over the years. I always make sure i pick ram that is listed as compatible with the motherboard.
For me the fix was to slot the ram into A2 and B2 instead of A1 and B1, for a strange a reason dual channel only works on these slots on newer Asus motherboard
You also have to look at supported mobo mhz rates too. My mobo can support up to 5200 mhz and when my ram was running at 6000 mhz speed, my pc was crashing all the time. Then i lowered the ram speed to 5200 and never had a blue screen after that.
I wasn't able to make XMP work for a year. The whole time I had my ram in slots 1 and 3.
After a BIOS update, my bios suggested i switch to slots 2 and 4, and then XMP worked perfectly.
I'm still not entirely sure what the deal with it was, but I had an issue back in 2021 when upgrading to a 32gb 3600mhz kit from G.skill. (this was a 7700k on Z170)
PC wouldn't even post at 3600, and would almost instantly blue screen all the way down at 3000. A whole month of blue screens later, even at 2133, and I decided to just sift through the BIOS and check what frequencies and voltages were "normal" compared to info online.
Eventually I found a voltage that was set suspiciously low. (Like .4V instead of .7-.9) Something related to memory on the CPU itself.
After making that change, the blue screens vanished for good. Haven't seen them since, and I'm still running the same CPU and memory just shy of 3 years later.
I have no idea what I truly did, exactly, and I have even less of an idea of why it happened in the first place, when my old 16gb 2400mhz kit never hit BSOD.
I've been meaning to take a peak again, because I think I saw that the RAM was running at 2133, but that literal month of blue screens still haunts me.
Tip: Check the website of whoever manufactured your processor. The processor itself will have a spec sheet showing the RAM speeds the processor can handle. How I learned my 10700k has to go soon.
This post SAVED my bacon.
Even as an experienced builder, I could not for the life of me find out what was causing the crashes.
I changed my PSU, GPU, SSD... I reinstalled windows... I went in and turned my TridentZ neo down from 3600 to 3400 and everything stabilized.
I am a LITTLE disappointed that my 5800X3D and Strix B550 couldn't handle the 3600 speed ram... But it may have something to do with the fact that the bundle I purchased came with 4x 8GB sticks instead of 2x 16GB sticks. So Ryzen disliking 4 sticks may have had something to do with not liking 3600 but either way? Kinda sad really.
I suppose that, in the end, not so sad because the 3090 does PLENTY of work now that the system is stable.
This was true for me. It seemed no tweak or tune would make it run full speed with XMP until I turned down the clocks. Also, upgrading from 16 to 32 gigs required a new set of 2x16 because it straight up will not boot with 4 sticks at any speed.
I really needed this quick video thank you !
I got the two high-end cpu's in 2018 for both Intel and AMD. One is a 9900k, and the other is a 2700x. This was just before the Ryzen 3000 series. I had bought the 9900k to replace the 2700x as I had issues with it. I have 32gb of 3000mhz ram in both systems. The 9900k has had it overclocked to max speed since it was installed. The 2700x would crash and get the bsod at 3000mhz. I feel like it is just a problem for AMD based systems. I'm not saying that Intel doesn't have issues as well. I'm saying that Intel is more friendly when it comes to overclocking.
The memory controller on my old 2700x was a bit flakey. My 3200 kit would work but sometimes become unstable.
That same kit with the 5800x3d is rock solid at 3600 mhz.
I had this issue too last year. Games kept crashing and the AMD drivers kept uninstalling when it happened. Tried multiple fixes and the only one that solved it was bumping my RAM from the advertised speed of 3600 down to 3200.
ZTT YOU ARE GOOD BRO THANKS 😊 for helping because sometimes our pc surprise us 😉 with different problems
I got this kind of problem with 3200Mhz DDR4, it was because RAM was advertised at 3200Mhz but needed 1.30v to run with this frequency, so I had to put the XMP@3200Mhz + change my RAM voltage
Thank you, I changed DRAM 1.35V to 1.30v. No more crashes 😊
Hey I have a xmp3200mhz 1.35v as well that won’t post when enabled, would changing it down to 1.30v help in my case? It’s running @ 2666 base and I wanna juice a little more out of it..
also check ur putting it in the right dimm slots and update ur bios, on new am5 motherboards bios drivers can be weird with high speed ram
All modern or new mobos support ddr5 6000 mts and above but all cpus support xmp in dual channel only except for cpus like thread ripper, it can use quad channel.
On my case I have 3600mhz, which is a bit of a overkill for me, and when I enabled it to full speed my games were lagging like crazy, so I had to tune it down to 3200mhz. Now it works like a charm
Make sure your sticks are in the correct slots. Ive made this mistake before and it caused instability with any speed above 3200mhz.
Damn. Been having issues with my new ram, 4 sticks of 32gb 5400hz. My MSI bios is hella fucking hard to get into and reading these comments give me hope that my pc is gonna work fine for the first time in weeks. Booting my PC is a 50/50, pc randomly crashes, booting takes hella long, having to reset bios everytime I want to boot, problems like that all popped up after my ram and it runs at 3600hz speed. Much lower than what was advertised and I paid for 5600 hz speed and by god i will use it. So props to these comments, hopefully these fixes will help my pc not shit itself.
i had a slight twist on that, with xmp on my pc just crashed on boot. then i put the advertised speed and voltage in leaving the ram timings on auto and the last number was just by one higher than the advertisement. but my pc is running fine now
Has had sometime with troubleshooting/playing around in bios in regards to XMP enabled. I found that having
DRAM Frequency is changed from "auto" and is set to your RAM stick specific speed.
FCLK Frequency changes from "auto"
To 1/3rd of your set RAM set speed.
It will help stabilize the RAM and help prevent crashing from RAM speed/compatibility issues.
Example(for DDR5
RAM Frequency is 5600/6000/6400mhz/mts
FCLK Frequency will be set to 1866/2000/2167mhz/mts etc.)
Hope someone finds this helpful!🙏
I mostly just dial my 3200 kit to 3000, mostly did this so that i can have a tighter timing instead
Yeah, when I enabled XMP, I kept blue screening on windows startup. Even though my mobo supported the speed, I guess it was still unstable, so I decreased to 5800 and works like a charm.
And make sure bios is updated. I have had a few kits work better after a bios update
I might have to do this man tired of my games crashing especially bo6 I end up disabling it
Mw3 dosent like full ram speeds whent from 5600Mhz to 4800 by disabling xmp but helped with the crashes
I have 12600k, that cpu supports speeds like 3200/3600 mhz. When i set xmp to anything between 3300-3600 my pc crashes or doesn't boot on 3600mhz and goes default speed 2666mhz. And then i xmp 3200mhz and it worked fine. So just know the speeds cpu supports and test the speeds in pc crashes or doesn't boot
I had the issue of the computer would not post with XMP enabled to 3600mhz on Corsair RGB PRO. Turned out it was the CPU causing the problem. Faulty memory controller on 11600kf. Swapped for an 11600k runs great now.
What are the cheapest/oldest computer components that are still viable for low end gaming today?
Also removing everything asus armoury crate saves your comp from crashing.
My comp bsoded and crashed all the time no matter what speeds I put on expo. After deleting everything asus everything works.
I was having BSOD issues with XMP so I exchanged the Ram and have zero issues now
1. Ram sticks in wrong slots (if you have 2 dim slots and 1 stick per channel, you are supposed to populate second one, and leave first one empty). PC will work if its in first slots (A1, B1, C1...) but performance is gonna be garbage.
2. Not enough power, sometimes sticks pull more power then motherboard is supplying, so one way would be to increase voltage, or if motherboard allows it, pump more current (on asus mbo it would be VDDCR Current Capability in AI Suite). Increasing voltage is better solution if you know what you are doing since increasing current may shorten power delivery components life.
Second one may be solved by updating bios (and by updating bios, updating preset profiles settings that may increase voltage/current settings themselves).
3. You lost on silicon lottery and got CPU with awful memory controller.
Don’t drop the frequency, just up the voltage in 0.05V increments. Almost all DDR4 kits can go up to 1.45 without problem.
Unless you’re using Samsung C die, it scales negatively with voltage past a certain point
Hey man, im buying my first pc but i dont really know wich gpu is the best for my pc, i have an AMD Ryzen 5 7600 but for my gpu i dont know if i should keep it at an rx 7600 or an nvdia gpu since an RX 6700 is above my buget, do you recomend one?
Some reason I had 3600mhz ram before and it worked fine then I got another kit that has same speed but only works at 35.33 as 36 will only work for some time until game randomly crashes
Does the Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT fits in the Nova Mesh SE TG? 🧐
This was happening to me thanks for making this video
This makes me realize, I gotta get a new system. My BIOS is from 2016! I know, museum piece. But then I have to get a new CPU, and that's not in the budget, as I just recently spent a load on maxing out this old Z97S mobo. 32MB memory, I7 4790K Devil's Canyon CPU, all new SSD's, Cooler Master AIO, and to top it off a beautiful new MSI RTX-3060ti pushing out to a 43" 4K monitor.
Runs all my stuff good, getting 60FPS max settings in RDR2, but man that BIOS is old!
Probably should have spent my money on newer architecture, but I've always wanted to max out a mobo.
When I enabled xmp the pc stopped booting so I had to reset cmos and start again I dont know what software could tweak it, ill have to do some research myself
My 2 ram sticks (16 GB both) are supposed to run at 3200, for some reasons, the XMP profile make them run at 2XXX something.
This actually worked lol and my pc booted faster than when xmp wasn't checked
This happens when the mobo is capped at a certain freq. thats why it is a must to check maximum freq. it can handle
I had the same problem right after I builded my pc, updated bios fixed the issue
if your xmp is not stable... try adding voltage on Memory Controller/ SOC and Ram Voltage...
I could not live knowing some of my components are underperforming that would drive me nuts
Holy crap I have been troubleshooting my computer for months and this fixed it. 3 motherboards, 2 hard drives and 2 aios later.
I've had a pretty decent assortment of issues after I swapped CPU+Mobo for the first time. the RAM I bought was rated at 6400mhz but I can only get 4800mhz out of it otherwise windows wont boot. I am not the most tech savvy guy so i dont wanna mess around with BIOS too much. but damn it has been a headache.
For the longest time, turning on XMP would crash my PC. But I kept trying and over time it finally worked!! Go figger! I have no idea what change on my system made that happen.
How did you fix it
I $80 for Trident Z.skill rgb 16gb at 3600mhz, and I couldn't run it above 2133 without my PC failing to boot at all. I had to suffer like this for years until this black Friday I bought extra 16gb ram at 3600 and added it, somehow I can now run all 4 sticks at 3600mhz with not problems at all
It's important to not get hardware from the bottom of the barrel too. Cheap stuff is cheap for a reason. Occasionally there is an exception to that rule but those are few and far between. Just put in you due diligence and try to find out if there's a known reason it's cheap.
Update: My RAM says it's 2400MHz, Windows says 2133, i went to bios, selected the XMP profile and it stayed 2133. I manually changed to 2400, "save and reset" but my pc didnt reset, just froze without showing anything on screen. hold power button to turn off, turn back on and get an "Overclocking failed" message from american megatrends. change the DRAM Frequency to 1 step below 2400.... same thing. Reselect the only XMP profile i have and it took it back to 2133 and works like it used to before
wait.... Just a day or two ago i made a comment not knowing that my ram speed is not at full and someone tried to help lol gonna need to look further into it again
Some of the reasons why it can crashing maybe because motherboard
I have A320M and it didn't like 3200 so i set to 3000 and it's works without problem
Motherboard, voltage, and cpu all matter. You need to check the cpus highest possible ram speed. Then check the motherboards specs. And then fine tune it over that in small amounts
Tbh most of the time the “max supported speed” on the CPU spec isn’t true. My Ryzen 5 5600 said it could do 3200 but it actually did 3733 mhz
Bro which GPU you recommend 5600g + 16gb ram + 450watts psu
Go with RX6650XT or RX6700XT but you need to upgrade your PSU at least 650 watts. If you're on a budget and all good for 1080p gaming go with RX6600.
Get a GTX 1660 super or ti. Make sure your PSU is above bronze 80+ and not 80+ only
My Gksills TridentZ 16*2 kit is clocked at 3200....But, i can Oc it upto 3600 without any issues..
As i research it further found out that it was using samsung dye..
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I have a 550 watt power supply but I have idea what CPU and GPU I should get?
I had this issue with my first AM4 mobo, AsRock X570 Steel Legend with 3700X
My GoodRam was not made for AMD processors I think. I had to tune down the speeds from 3600Mhz to like 3000Mhz. On other AsRock X570 mobo it works fine, thou the mobo's bios is fcked and it boots very long and resets everytime there is power cut off.
Make sure your cpu can handle the speeds. I got 3200 ram and my i3 10100f can only go to 2666
For me, the crashes when I turn on DOCP went out when I reflashed my bios
Yea enabling xmp prevents my pc from booting. Always be sure to check ram compatibility to your motherboard board so you don’t end up using ram tested for intel systems on an amd build. It works fine otherwise but I can’t enable xmp
Question: What specs do you recommend for a £900 Gaming PC?
I’d say update bios is the first thing to do. If the ram came out after the bios it will usually do this. But anyway
I had to pull all of my RAM because they managed to cause the motherboard to throw a CPU light. Turns out I had to reset my XMP after swapping sticks. Set my XMP again and it works