How To Convert Low-Volume Cymbals to Electronic/Digital Cymbals

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  • Опубліковано 8 лют 2021
  • Tutorial on installing Magnatrack Low Volume Cymbal Triggers on a Zildjian L80 low volume cymbal.
    To purchase triggers visit:
    Magnatrack.com

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  • @jasonwolf76
    @jasonwolf76 3 роки тому +3

    Welcome Back Sal !
    Amazing conversion 🥁✔
    I like this sounds 👍

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you Jason, keep drumming!

  • @yanxi02
    @yanxi02 3 місяці тому

    Wow, this sound is so real, i've been watched many videos, your sharing is much more useful for me. Thank you

  • @ARDrummer
    @ARDrummer 3 роки тому +1

    Very cool setup...nice and informative upload!

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  3 роки тому

      Hey Adam, thank you for viewing this video. I hope you and family are well in this very trying time. I don't get out much on YT anymore so I've been out of touch with the drumming community here.

  • @fabri7870
    @fabri7870 Рік тому

    I'm happy to have found this video :) I've got an acustic drum kit at home, with Remo silentstroke mesh heads and Zildjian L80 cymbals for home practice/playing. I was thinking of converting it to an electronic drum kit, this video will surely help. I don't have to buy electronic cymbal pads, I can keep my L80s and convert them. I'll take a closer look at your videos, in order to find the same solution for the snare,toms and kick drum. Thanks again :) God bless us all 🙏 ☮&❤

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Fabri for viewing the video and I hope it helped in understanding converting LVCs to electric. God bless you with His presence.

  • @gregthegroove
    @gregthegroove 3 роки тому +3

    Nice vid Sal. Awesome explanation. These look like a very nice option for those who don’t really have the know,edge to convert on their own. Jman was a close drumming friend I met a while back and passed away. I’m sure you know him or know of him at least as he made Stealth cymbals I play. This is a nice option of fixing cymbs that may have broken or needs new triggers etc. it’s also amazing just how much better the SD3 sounds are. LOL! That rapid machine gun sound from consecutive hits is so annoying. It’s been 20 years and Roland still hasn’t entirely fixed this issue in hi hats but toms mostly.

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  3 роки тому

      Hey Greg, thanks so much viewing this video and commenting. Well yes, SD3 is comprised of samples of actual drum sets recording in recording studios and by well known engineers. Whereas Roland V-drum sounds are "modeled", computer programmed. I hope things are as good as can be in the SF Bay Area. Keep drumming!

  • @Judahdad
    @Judahdad 8 місяців тому

    Sal, the hi hat conversion was one of my concerns but this video put those concerns to rest. As far as the ride and crashes go, are you running multiple trigger zones for different sounds across the cymbal? I’d like to know how to do that as well

  • @thecavedrum
    @thecavedrum 9 місяців тому

    Hey Sal!, I´m going to get my Magnatrack´s, but I was wondering if the ride and de hi hats are the only cymbals that requires 2 triggers

  • @andreizinho009
    @andreizinho009 3 роки тому

    Grande baterista 👏👏👏

  • @pawelmorrison
    @pawelmorrison 3 роки тому +2

    Nicely done Sal. Im 27 and it seems too complicated. The kit looks very well for an electronic. Probably feels much better to play than a bunch of rubber shapes.

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  3 роки тому +1

      Hey Pawel, yes the future of edrumming is played on acoustic kits.
      Magnatrack offers pre-triggered cymbals so you don’t have to do it yourself.

  • @ryantilley9122
    @ryantilley9122 3 роки тому +2

    Great Video! Probably the best explanation/demonstration I've seen on how to convert these cymbals. I did want to ask, the cable that goes from the junction box through the lower hi-hat to the underside of the cymbal (the one which you plugs into the drum module), did that wire just fit naturally through one of the holes? (Around 2:40 for the cable I'm referring to!).

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, the cable fits through any of the larger holes. Thank you for viewing the video.

  • @ZaxDrumsandGolf
    @ZaxDrumsandGolf 3 роки тому +1

    Cool demo/tutorial Sal!! I didn't hear much of a difference between the module and SD3. I think the difference is more with the crash, ride and other drums.

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you Zax for viewing the video. The demo was to highlight the triggering, not the sound. The demo was to show how well the cymbals triggered from either from a module, or software,

    • @ZaxDrumsandGolf
      @ZaxDrumsandGolf 3 роки тому +1

      @@rhythmantic Those triggers definitely make it easier to convert those types of cymbals!!

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  3 роки тому +2

      @@ZaxDrumsandGolf It really does. It's a bit of a learning curve to dial in and settle on settings that suit your playing.

  • @Drumsholic
    @Drumsholic Рік тому

    Nice and easy build my friend i also like to ask if you use the 2 cymbals closed or the only one cymbal (the top as example) and install downside of the cymbal a hihat controller and only one magnatrack trigger to the top cymbal you didn't have the same result??

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      Hello Stamatis, thanks for watching the video. Yes, 2 cymbals are used: the top one has a Magnatrack low volume cymbal trigger with it's output to hihat input of the module. There is a Magnatrack HC-2 controller with the output cable going to the hihat controller input of the module.

  • @iamtubuler9266
    @iamtubuler9266 Рік тому

    Great video thank for posting it! What kind of drum triggers are you currently using?

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      I'm currently using Maganatrack triggers on all the drums and cymbals. Thank you for viewing the video.

  • @thecavedrum
    @thecavedrum 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video, very useful!
    What’s the name and where did you get the black protection for the cymbal Sal? 😅

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for viewing the video on where you can locate. The paraphernalia that goes with the symbols is listed in the videos description below. I’ll put it here magnatrack.com.

  • @user-sr8xm4rm7j
    @user-sr8xm4rm7j Рік тому

    I am trying to turn my low volume hi-hat into the electronic version and I am very thankful for the tutorial. Could you please let me know the name of your trigger for the hi-hat?

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому +1

      The information and link is in the video Description. Thank you for viewing the video and glad it was helpful.

  • @SundaySchoolPh
    @SundaySchoolPh 4 місяці тому

    does it have a choke?

  • @Sinistic6
    @Sinistic6 Рік тому

    Im looking to converting my acoustic kit to electric and I already have low volume cymbals and simply do not want to go with rubber cymbals. Ive read mixed results on converting low volume cymbals or buying already converted cymbals in regards to reliability and durability. Which made me think I might need to go rubber anyway for a good experience. But this seems to work very well. May I ask how often did you use this in the past year? Do they still hold up?
    Also on the website I see magnetic triggers for both drums and cymbals. And specific low volume cymbal triggers, but they have the cymbolic logo on them, and yours don't. I'm guessing those are version 2 and in the video you use version 1 of those triggers, am I correct?
    Thanks for posting this clear and informative video, very helpful for my a2e journey. And it gives me hope that I can do this without going for toy-looking rubber cymbals. :D

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому +1

      Hello thanks for watching the video.
      The cymbals will hold up as long as any metal cymbal. I’ve been using mine for about 3 years. I also use Magnatrack cymbals at the church and have used them for 5 services a week for 2 years now. The cymbals in this video have the Cymbolic logo. I hope this answers your questions.

    • @Sinistic6
      @Sinistic6 Рік тому

      @@rhythmantic Thank you for replying! That is great to hear! Keep up the good work!

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      @@Sinistic6 Glad to be of service.

  • @grazianodrummer
    @grazianodrummer Рік тому

    Thanks buddy for the video!

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому +1

      Grazie mille per aver guardato il video. Continua a suonare la batteria!!

    • @grazianodrummer
      @grazianodrummer Рік тому

      @@rhythmantic thanks for replying in Italian

    • @grazianodrummer
      @grazianodrummer Рік тому

      @@rhythmantic thanks for replying in Italian!

  • @gcp3339
    @gcp3339 2 роки тому +1

    sold brother!!! awesome grest Job do they come in sets? and where do we buy them?

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  2 роки тому +1

      Please find the link to Magnatrack is in the video Description. And yes the cymbals can purchased as a set.
      Thank you for viewing this video.

  • @jOHNNYDEM
    @jOHNNYDEM Рік тому

    Interesting vid.
    What about triggering “chokes” on these modded cymbals…..Is there a way to get that to work?

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому +1

      Yes, there is a strip that is a choke trigger on the very edge. Thank you for checking out the video.

  • @MicahHaven
    @MicahHaven Рік тому

    You mentioned you started using clear car door molding for the edge guards. What brand did you start using?

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      I don’t recall and I found out they’re not necessary if you tweak the settings in the drum module and find settings that work for you. It takes a lot of trial and error. I’ve been playing the converted cymbals at church five times a week for the past year or so without these trims.

  • @justinseo7505
    @justinseo7505 2 роки тому

    Do you mind sharing what rubber edge guard you used on your cymbals? I used car door edge guards but the rubber is a bit thin and I find that it wears out pretty quickly...

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  2 роки тому +1

      The rubber rim guards came with the cymbals and I no longer use them and took them off and instead use about 6" strips of car door edge guards and placed them away from the area where I strike the cymbal. Just that small amount of muffling is enough to eliminate any false triggering. I hope that helps and thank you for watching the video. If you have any further questions please contact Magnatrack tech support.

    • @justinseo7505
      @justinseo7505 2 роки тому

      @@rhythmantic awesome, thanks for the tip! Waiting on my shipment right now, taking quite a while 😅

  • @seanperscky
    @seanperscky Рік тому

    Can you share your hi-hat settings in Superior Drummer 3? How hard was it to configure the Hi-hat?

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      I suggest experimenting with the SD3 until you get it to your satisfaction. That’s all I did

  • @mikestein1024
    @mikestein1024 2 роки тому

    How would you rate the playability of the hh controller vs a regular ole VH-11 the same or better ?

  • @clarrebarre65
    @clarrebarre65 Місяць тому

    Hi.These triggers are not available for purchase outside the USA.Asking: Can I purchase through you somehow to Sweden.I pay you for the work.

  • @BeatMachinery
    @BeatMachinery Рік тому

    Hello! Wanted to know which is the rubber you are using on the cymbals edges. Where can I get it? Thanks!

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому +1

      The rubber rim tubing came with the Magnatrack cymbals. However it can be purchased at an auto supply store.
      Thank you for the video.

  • @MicahHaven
    @MicahHaven Рік тому

    Where did you get the pads you used on the lower hi-hat to prevent false triggering?

  • @paulohenriquefontenele530
    @paulohenriquefontenele530 Рік тому

    hello. congratulations for the video! i live in brasil. how can i buy the Magnatrack Low volume cimbal Trigger? On Ebay I didint fond it. Thanks

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      The triggers can be purchased here:
      Magnatrack.com

  • @ManuelRoos
    @ManuelRoos Рік тому

    Nice video, where did you get the 13” rubber rim?

  • @chfeil666
    @chfeil666 Рік тому

    What did you buy for the rubber around the rim and foam pads?

    • @chfeil666
      @chfeil666 Рік тому

      And great video- thank you

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      The rubber comes with the Magnatrack cymbals, but if you create your own triggered cymbals the rubber can be purchased at an auto supply store. The pads were purchased at an office supply store.

  • @zachroll3938
    @zachroll3938 11 місяців тому

    I’m trying to use them as a dual zone setup on a magna track Cymbolic hat on an Alesis Strike pro SE and it only wants to trigger the bow and not the edge of the hat unless I really hit it hard. Any tips? Maybe I should just use it as a single pickup and not do both?

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  11 місяців тому

      Yes, that is a problem with the Magnatrack triggers on the hihat, only one zone is available. I’ve tried the two triggers and it didn’t work.

    • @ZestyDrums38
      @ZestyDrums38 11 місяців тому

      Thank you for the reply. Have you had issues with the other cymbals also needing to be only single zone? I’m trying to run the choke on the two crashes as well and only one crash with respond properly to the module, very frustrating

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  11 місяців тому

      @@ZestyDrums38
      The only cymbals I use that have no triggering issues are Roland V-Drum rubber cymbals.

  • @RockingBro_Frank
    @RockingBro_Frank 2 роки тому

    I was wondering why you didn't show how it connects to the controller. I appreciate the video you did but I want to see the whole project completed. Is there another video for that?

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  2 роки тому +1

      Because that is obvious which cable; i.e. Crash, would go to the input labeled "Crash" on the module. Ride cable to Ride input, HiHat to hihat input.

  • @mityazhuravlev
    @mityazhuravlev Рік тому

    Nice vid! If comparing Roland vh-10 and REMEDY HC-2 for controller, which one is better in your opinion?

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      I don’t have a VH-10, but I use a VH-11 on the church kit after using Magnatrack’s HC-2 for a good while and the VH-11 triggers much better.

    • @mityazhuravlev
      @mityazhuravlev Рік тому

      @@rhythmantic thank you for the answer! I already have a low volume hihat, but im thinking of buying magnatrack HC-2 pedal, and some triggers. OR instead of magnatrack, im thinking of buying vh-10, or vh-11 hi hat and controller. i want to know which performance is best for playing ? i mean the feeling and convenience. Is magnatrack even worth it? or would it be better to get vh-10/11 straight away? I've read a lot af people who tried both of these options, your videos too. I noticed that ones who used metal triggerred hi hats (because it feel more realistic) after some time go back to rubbered hi hats due to issues using metal ones. I'm so confused because I can't choose the best option

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      @@mityazhuravlev
      Well you can’t go wrong with Roland. The Magnatrack controller is a good option but you’ll have to spend time configuring its settings to trigger to your touch and for dynamics. Also you may have to deal with positioning the controller to a proper height underneath your hihat pedal. The pedal will either be too close or too far from the pedal.

    • @mityazhuravlev
      @mityazhuravlev Рік тому +1

      @@rhythmantic thank you!

  • @JesusLordOfLords455
    @JesusLordOfLords455 2 роки тому

    Hi there where can I buy the gen 16 processor and mics without the cymbals please???

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  2 роки тому +1

      As I don’t use Gen 16 I suggest trying Sweetwater

  • @alejandroirizarry7606
    @alejandroirizarry7606 2 роки тому

    What material did you use for the rim guard??

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  2 роки тому

      It came with the cymbals and I’ve recently removed them and replaced them with 6 inch strips of clear car door rim guard material.

    • @alejandroirizarry7606
      @alejandroirizarry7606 2 роки тому

      @@rhythmantic Ok. Cool video. Thanks for the reply.

  • @samuelosei323
    @samuelosei323 Рік тому

    Please Can I use normal piezo on the hihat instead of magnatrac hihat triggers ???

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      I don’t know as I’ve never tried it. Give it a shot and see if it works. You will need a hihat controller.

    • @samuelosei323
      @samuelosei323 Рік тому

      @@rhythmantic thank you.. any way i got the hihat Controller from Roland vh 10

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      @@samuelosei323 Very good, that should work fine.

  • @TheJamesmario
    @TheJamesmario 2 роки тому

    Is it possible to get edge sounds?

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  2 роки тому

      If your module has a output for it.

  • @seanperscky
    @seanperscky Рік тому

    Where did you get the cymbal mutes from?

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      From Magnatrack. Or you can find that type of material at an auto supply store.

    • @seanperscky
      @seanperscky Рік тому

      @@rhythmantic Thanks for the reply. I found another comment below this mentioned car trim. I forgot that stuff still exists :)

    • @rhythmantic
      @rhythmantic  Рік тому

      @@seanperscky
      Yes, car door trim.

  • @sammytuga9634
    @sammytuga9634 Рік тому

    Please where can I get the screws??

  • @mecdrum7
    @mecdrum7 Рік тому

    I liked the Roland better sounds