2024 Tesla Model 3 vs The Cheapest Model 3 You Can Buy
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2024
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The 2024 Tesla Model 3 Long Range Dual Motor AWD ($47,740 USD starting, $66,003 CAD starting) and a very well loved 2018 Tesla Model 3 (~$20,000 USD) are facing off for our very first episode of new vs old with an electric vehicle. The new Model 3 has been heavily refreshed this year, and has seen some pretty serious new upgrades and changes. These include a much quieter cabin, a new exterior design, ventilated seats, ambient lighting, better speakers and more. But are all of these changes worth the hefty price jump over a used one? Thomas and James are excited to see how far the Model 3 has come, and just how much car you can get for the price on the used market. We hope you enjoy the episode. And then subscribe, silly.
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Can't believe my standards have dropped this low, but the older version is better for the simple fact it has stalks (and radar)
radar is deactivated… but is has still USS
they're both junk
@@hardywoodaway9912 from what I gather it does not not have USS.
@@BikerJim74ah the ignorance.
The s3xy buttons company is working on stalks. Will be releasing soon it appears.
the condition of the model 3 at 50k miles is wild. Even if it is a rental.
They seem to fall apart just like their resale value.
@@bandwagon240people complained the prices were too high. Now they complain that prices are too low. Haters going to hate.
Rented a Model Y and Model 3 from Hertz after getting into a car accident. The condition of the vehicles were unlike anything I’ve ever seen from a rental agency. They both felt like vehicles with over 150k miles. Outside of the speed, there weren’t any redeeming qualities. I was left feeling like they’re way overpriced.
Designed obsolescence
Yeah, that's atrocious. Even if it was a rental it's whole life.
I hope the helmet I8 scene never leaves the intros.
Haha I noticed the new intro while watching and was hoping they hadn’t removed it. So glad they didn’t and hope they don’t too.
Until that old one needs a new battery. I'm all about saving money though.
Gets me every time. That noise.
For reference flop refers to how drastic the color change is when light is directly shining on a painted surface vs when it is just illuminated by ambient light. Think Pearlescent paint. Soul Red Crystal looks so good because it gets really dark when light is not shining directly at it, meaning it emphasizes the design more.
Source: automotive design grad student
Mazda also makes a really nice Pearlescent white for the Miata, the only white I would ever want.
Flop is derived from the use of the term “flip-flop”, which is often used to describe a paint finish which changes hue notably as the angle of observation changes, “flipping” from one hue to another. Calling it “flipping” paint just would not do. So the colloquialism “flip-flop” entered our lexicon, no longer just foot wear, but now, obviously derived from that ubiquitous term for an ultra informal shoe, but a follow-through to round out the a term for paint which “flips” color. A flip-flop paint job is one that can appear perhaps black in certain lighting, then raven blue in others. If the industry used the term “flop” for perceived changes of hue depending upon the angle of observation PRIOR, to the custom paint world coining this term, I will stand corrected and beg forgiveness for steering anyone wrong. But in the automotive finishing world, flop is indeed the alteration of the perceived color by way of viewpoint, and is generally a derisive term, and is an attribute of inferior paint or paint application. Not generally desired. The question of whether paint flop is desired or not, can quickly be derived by the uniformity of its effect. A finish showing this “flop” only in certain areas is evidence of poor mixing, whether color mix or reducer or even hardener, poor distribution of pigmented solids in the basecoat itself, or improper application, often via irregular air pressure, or simply, being drunk on the job. Beer goggles doesn’t only apply to late night selection of prospective mating partners. With beer goggles, even poor trim work, carpentry, or painting can look first rate, till morning comes. The light only lies a little bit.
@@andrewhigdon8346 as a fellow refinisher, this too bothered me.
@@UyeGamingI’ve got a pearl white CX-30. It actually hits when it’s clean and sunny out.
lol. A friend’s dad used to say flop meant someone tripped over their own penis.
“Can I get a HOOOOYYYYYYAAAAA” 😂
HHHHHHHHOOOOOYYYYYAAAAAAA
HoooooooooYeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhh
HOOOOYYYYYAAAAAA!!!!
Hoya
I'm outta the loop. Whats the reference?
"NEXT 4 MILFS" had me do a double take, rofl
Only made it to one
That was hilarious!
@@SadfoxGuyver Still at zero here
Currently Ive traveled as far as mile marker 2 on milf road.
I expect to pursue it more
I had to rewind thrice as well.
I own a 2019 model 3 I’m not sure if I just got lucky but I love build quality of the car nothings fallen apart (yet lol) there’s no misaligned panel gaps or paint issues, no squeaking or creaking. There is a lot of wind noise at high speeds but it doesn’t really bother me the speakers are great at drowning it out. If anyone is interested in buying a used model 3 just make sure the seller took care of it and didn’t just treat it like a piece of junk because mine held up well for a lower-end ev. It’s also wicked fast not too many cars in traffic can catch up I love driving it.
2018 here, 115k miles, it's still perfect. Only service is from the tire shop at Costco.
Wait, wait, are you telling me internet trolls are wrong? /s
Yeah, same here.
2019 sr here with 54k miles. Its a great city car.
i think because ev have no motor there is more wind noise. my chevy bolt has lots of wind noise on the highway
My friend has a 2019 M3 with 200k miles as a taxi and its live new on the inside, take care of it and its fine. Any car that has been abused for 50k miles will look bad.
“The frog has become the snake” was a great way to summarize the design change. As not a car guy, I actually thought the frog was cool too. In the US I haven’t been in a position where not having indicator stalks would be a significant issue, but I understand that some people and places would have a lot of difficulty.
They'll probably activate auto turn signals for drives when you use the nav system.
I've got a Tesla 3, 2024 edition without stalks.
I was worried about it when getting it, but now I'm used to it, it's fine. Hope it helps.
No, the separated B pillar trim is a feature! Extra ventilation!
@@jeremyroper7273Or maybe I saw the exact same thing happen to a friend's Model 3? And yeah, I buy used vehicles. Right now I'm driving a BMW with 50k miles and while it has rock chips in the hood, the interior is solid and good as new.
@@jeremyroper7273 Found the investor.
Karston's nod was ominous. Remind me to stay on his good side.
If Karston has a good side, no one has found it yet LOL
@@redcarrot1148. I have he has a heart of gold
“I get it, I get it. You like wood.” 16:31
😂
I was looking for this comment 😂😂😂
James slipped that in and didn't think we would notice 💀
Is it 🏳️🌈 true🏳️🌈 tho?
I love your guys channel, its always a "oh hell yeah" moment when I open youtube and see a new video is up.
As an FYI on the decibel scale, 3dB is about double the intensity. A 3-6dB difference is really impressive!
db are weird. Yes 3db is double the intensity, but humans don't actually recognize it as double the loudness.
Double loudness, for a human, is around 10db, which is pretty neat to consider.
the more one tries to undertand dbs... the less sense they make... I play live for a while now... I still don't get it! 😅
@@danispringeras a music producer i entirely agree. Tried getting an understanding of dbs when i was studying some music theory, it just left me more confused than where i started
Could all be tire related though.
The classic duo intro is never change at all 😂👍
I’ve seen a couple of roughly 22-minute long videos on this channel now, in addition to saying “enjoy the show.” I can only think of one reason: you’re also now broadcast on regular TV in Canada now. Congrats! You’ve definitely earned it
9:55 - the reaction I get when I try some of my best pickup lines
9:57 “I’m dry now thanks for asking” The Liner Rechie segment was golden I love you guys so much😂😂😂
4:32 I got distracted for a few minutes and the next thing I see, James is screaming "Throttle House" like a battle call and kicking Thomas, wearing foot mats like an armour, into a pool 😂
Did you catch the reference? I hope you didn't, so it'll hit better when you find out! 😅
@@JESUSISCALLINGYOU7 What was it, please tell me
THIS IS SPARTA
Bought a 2019 model 3 with 55k miles on it in France about 6 months ago.
It now has 68k miles and it’s almost like new. I’m really impressed with the quality even with my kids putting it thoughts it’s paces in the back…
I feel the same about my 2018 model 3
cool watching you guys driving through my hometown roads. Nice and insightful video
Liner Richie is bloody brilliant
liner 😂😂😂
The 300 reference perfection !
Funny +Informative = Perfection More please!!
Karston with the sick editing skills as per usual 🔥
5:04 Harrison you and I and karston all agree this was the best part of the video and the ending with it as well. James delivers it perfectly and what a powerful kick. Chuck Norris would be so proud I want to see Thomas do this next. Then Harrison don’t make James upset. I need to process the greatness of this scene
Props to the videographer - really nice, cinematic shots and overall look.
The flip from Lionel Ritchie to SPARTA!!! owned me.
Another awesome video!! I especially loved the WeatherTech bits.
Watching James '300' sparta kick Thomas into the pool made my day 😂
😂😂 his face when he looked back after locking it 😂😂
This latest intro is so perfect, guys. I love it every time.
As someone getting prepared to buy a model 3 used or a polestar 2 you guys help out everytime !
I have an identical 2018 M3LR (even in blue!) Owned for 5.5 years and 40K miles on it and it is still pretty much new. I don't know how that one is so beat up! A few weeks ago I test drove the 2024 LR. It was nice. I loved the quiet cabin and the quality of the stereo was better but there is something wrong with the spatial imaging of the speakers IMO. I don't feel surrounded by the sound as much somehow. I don't get a wide sound even messing with all the settings. If I'm comparing the stock suspensions between both the 2024 is MUCH better. However, I upgraded to adjustable comfort coilovers in my 2018 and the ride is very close with the 2024 a little bit more comfortable. In the end, my 2018 is just about paid off and it's still a great car so I've decided to keep rolling with it. Maybe the federal tax credit will come back someday and I'll consider it again but for now I'm keeping my 2018.
Yeah the rental they got was unusually bad. My 2019 Model 3 is like new at 65k
@@allaround200anything to hate on Tesla build quality. I guess.
How’s the paint? Every Tesla I see is complete with a rash of stone chips up front and scratches on each corner due to the lack of parking sensors?
@@992GTS-DCPaint is pretty good. I think I might have maybe 1 or 2 small chips. One on the very tip of the hood and one down by the front plate. I didn't go for paint protection wrap or anything either.
I have a 2018 too but 115k miles. Besides road rash on front end from 80mph highway driving, it's perfect! Honestly I now wouldn't even blink at buying a high mileage used one.
The "300" Reference was over the top funny ! as well as the Mlif. You guys do great funny and informational content. Keep it going !
I've never seen an ad for a product be so entirely unrelated to the product, i love this channed
You guys crack me up. Great work fellas!
Lol. That has to be one of the best intro skits yet from TH!
Cyber truck was my fav
@@porleg Prius was my favourite
Nothing could beat Prius so far
Agreed! The removal of the indicator stalk is downright catastrophic!
It is the single reason why I rejected Tesla for my next car. I need my driving to be familiar. I can't be goofing around looking for indicators when driving at 70 mph on a busy highway.
@@pspublic13 my dad switched from a 2021 Model 3 to a 2024 Model 3 recently, and you get used to the indicators in about a week
I have a new Model S with no stalks and now love it! Some people are just dry in their ways. Really sad actually 😢
You would be the guy: i want my horses, no weird steam engine
@@pspublic13maybe do a test drive. In the driveway is so much easier with the buttons.
You don’t want a car because of that? The are a lot of good things about the car that outweigh the lack of stalks
Throttle House, You're the best! I subscribed because I love your content!
Cheers to making an in-video ad something to look forward to.
Just bought a 2018 Model 3 performance for $29k with FSD. I’m absolutely loving it for the price. Something to be said about such a value. Mine luckily was private owner and in great shape for 50k miles
And what’s the plan in 3 years when you have to consider a new battery? I’m actually pro EV but used seems like a difficult proposition
@@jissanhuq3792 if the battery does happen to fail post-warranty then I would buy a new battery? Battery cost has reduced drastically in the last few years. Where previously (early twenty-teens) they were $20kish. Now they seem to be $10-15k from Tesla. Not bad considering that I’m not in this car for more than $30k. It would still be a total investment of less than a new model 3 performance. Warranty is 8 years 120k miles
This warranty also covers if the battery degrades below 70% of original capacity. We are seeing I believe degradation of around 1-2% every year though
@@TheAventadorSV it’s certainly not a rip off for me. Considering I wanted this specific trim. I was cross shopping with a Miata at the same price point and this made more sense for my long commute. But to each their own
@@jissanhuq3792 who says the battery needs to be replaced in 3 years?
Video production has gone up a level
Never Miss … as always love the show !!! 😊 Cheers !!!
5:10 You can see Thomas mouthing "this is throttlehouse" 😆
James as a fellow Englishman in Canada you are everything that is the best about being British 🙏🙏🙏 your humour is the same as mine 😎😎😎
The fact you paid homage to my favourite scene in fine cinema is why this is my favourite channel by far
"Fine cinema"hahaha realy?
You guys went to another level 🔥🔥🔥
I absolutely expected that lock sound and wore my headphones quick.Thank god🤣😂
@14:33 Am I the only one who saw knights on horseback in the background??
Black Noir on a horsie
Thought it was Batman
I think those are modern equestrian helmets, not medieval plate sallet helms. Good catch though. It does make you wonder what casual Canadian rustic background they picked for this.
@@seth1422yeah there must be a trail back behind them.
@@seth1422 They shot this in Thousand Oaks, California
hats off to the editing team. WOW
The beginning of the video is very well done
Wow
What an intro
Love the cinematography 👌🏻
I love you guys. Keep it up. You're very entertaining and education at the same time. Very informative but damn funny. You keep me from spending unnecessary money. Thank you very much. Keep up the funnyness😂😂😂😂😂
Goddamn james bringing the heat with that kick
_"Thankful"_
That I get to start my Sunday with Thomas and James over a cup of strong coffee,
And that the BMW i8 helmet clip is still in the intro.
They could review miniature cows, for all I care, I'll watch. Then I'll watch again with my wife later on.
I've also got a 2018 with 50K miles on it, but mine isn't nearly as beat up as that one. My seats are still supportive. My trim isn't falling off. My paint isn't perfect, but it's not covered in paint chips either. The trim can probably be fixed with some new clips, but new front seats would probably be pricey.
Great video as usual! So fun 😂😂
It would be really interesting to see a follow-up on this in maybe another 5-7 years to see if the quality has improved in the new Model 3 ❤
I can't get over the fact that this, one of the highest quality YT channels EVER, doesn't already have ten times the subs 🤯
Greetings to the whole team, you're awesome! ❤
The reason the early Model 3s (pre-mid cycle refresh) are depreciating steeply like the one rented here is because there was some nice updates around 2020-2021. The updated Model 3 got a new center console, updated front interior door design, a heat pump, double pane glass in the front, and in 2022 switched to an AMD Ryzen processor and a 16v Lithium Ion LV system.
The early model 3s are easy to spot because they have the chrome trim, and the interior has the old glossy center console and the dash trim doesn't extend into the front doors.
No, the reason is the price cuts that Elon decided was necessary to drive more demand at the cost of profit margins. Also the price cuts began about 4 months before he bought Twitter. He was collecting money. Also fired a bunch of employees right before their stocks vested, right before he bought twitter. Think about it
This is utterly ignorant reasoning. Elon Musk has truly played you all for fools. - Ex Tesla Sales.
That or they're cheaply made all round then fall apart with your only option $185/hr tesla service on a, well, throw away car. -(4 teslas, never again)
The 2020/2021 models are following the same depreciation curve. People don’t care about how many panes of glass it has; they care about how well built and reliable it is
A 7 year old with 50k miles is basically brand new for something like a Toyota. Meanwhile Tesla has parts falling off and it’s lost an entire third of its total driving range
@Courtesyflush52 Hey now! My pampered tesla S had its seats ripping out at 25k! Be more accurate bud! Hahahaha. Maybe they hold up to ladies yoga pants. All i know is denim and pleather don't work.
Love the new intro segment video!!
I haven’t driven an electric car but in my 2021 Suburban I have Weathertech floor mats and they are awesome at protecting all three rows and I love them at protecting my floors from the dirt, sand, and all the goop my grandkids track into them because I can wash them out so easily.
Not all of us Americans live in Los Angeles. @8:11
In dense cities in northeastern United States and also Chicago, we need our turn signal stalk easily accessible as well.
Heck, I feel the same way in rural, population-13k MN. Fumbling for an indicator just sounds not fun.
On the other hand I live in Europe and I don't really understand the problem with roundabouts, they are that tight so you either don't have to move your hand or you move it slightly in controlled manner so it's not like you forget when the steering wheel and it's buttons are.
Still worse for normal cars but not that bad
A turn signal stalk remains in the same place. Heck, even the old 1960's thing where the turn signals were a switch on the dash meant they _remained in the same place._ You know where they are. You know where they are going to be.
Putting the turn signals on the wheel means they're going to move around and never be quite in the same place all of the time, every time.
The only adverts I don’t skip over lol.
Good to see Newbury Park CA and Decker Canyon Road. My home area. Great vid as usual. 😊
Big shoutout to weathertech for letting these guys do what they do. If I ever need liners for my car (I won't) you'd be my first choice.
"THIS IS THROTTLE HOUSE" 🔥
That Spartan Kick sold the mats for me 😂. James should do it again!
😂. But seriously, weathertech are actually solid! I have them on all my cars. They fit BETTER than the OEMs I used to have on my Audi’s which is ridiculous haha.
1:23 I like that vandalized "MILES"
Liner Ritchie. Brilliant.
I knew James was a Spartan.
Man these two guys crack me up! 😂
Lmao liner richie, love it 😂😂 love weather tec mats :)
I own a '22 M3 Dual motor/LR and drove the highland M3 Dual Motor/LR a few weeks ago. Surprisingly I got used to the stalkless design within a few minutes. The interior is sooooo much quieter which I loved, but I didn't care for the softer suspension. I like the go-cart feel of my '22. I also didn't care for the interior aesthetic compared to my '22. I too like the faux wood. If I didn't own a M3 already I would have no problem buying this and I'm sure I would love it as much as I love mine. The depreciation is real now. I paid $57K about two years ago and it's worth around $30K with 30K miles.
One thing to consider is consumers like myself. I’m driving a 10 year old car that I bought for $11k new. It’s small, weak, loud, and almost entirely bereft of anything that could be considered a ‘feature.’ I imagine even a 50k mile rental base model 3 would still feel like a rocket ship compared to what I drive. Of course, it’s a scale of quality and affordability, but I don’t exactly need a 2024 to get a massive upgrade from what I’m currently driving
Yikes. My 2018 has 180,000 kms and has none of those issues. Still feels new.
It’s a rental car, those get abused on average and I’m sure on this it’s worse, likely poor charging, aggressive only driving
At the price for the new Tesla 3 as they say like 54K ? that would make one wait a bit longer for Rivian R2 that just launched and is ready for orders will be available on Europe as well or if that is too much off-roady for citizens, the Hyundai ioniq 5N that is a much proper hatch with some cool tricks up in it's sleeves..
@@poplaurentiu4148 Yeah those look awesome. Only thing I would question in the range and overall efficiency compared to Tesla. I want Rivian to succeed and I hope the R2/3 gets them there.
Loving the messing around hehe 😁
Great show guys! Sometimes you test and drive cars that are just not that relevant and sometimes you get too cute. This episode was spot-on with a very good and relevant comparison that I am sure a lot of people are making. And you answered all my questions. Btw, my home is in the Dos Vientos neighborhood where you do this test, so all those roads are very familiar to me.
My 2020 M3P has 78k miles from new and nothing is falling apart. I’ve had no problems aside from the control arms which Tesla took care of. It’s about how you take care of the car. I have a 981S with 22k miles which honestly shows more wear in some places.
The fact that the Escalade with an ICE is STILL quieter than Tesla's newest Model 3 is pretty outstanding, actually.
traveling speeds, there really is absolutely no engine sound whatsoever in any basic car. no clue why ppl think there is, the cabin noise is not coming from the engine as much as from tires and poor insulation
They’re referring to cabin noise. Cabin noise is mostly brought on by the tires, suspension, wind, and vibration of the frame, not the engine.
I get it, "you like wood'... 😂 Fsake..that made my day
Always making good videos 😊😊
THIS IS THROTTLE HOUSE 😂😂😂 excellent kick Leonidas!!! Great vid gentleman
It was worth it just for the Carson head nod.
Iv never resonated so hard with a yt vid sponsor lol. Had full weathertech catalog in all my cars for the last 8yrs. Cost me a fortune. Bummed to see no Tesla model Y in RHD Australia :S
the new starting sequence 🤩🤩🤩
I think you need to do a comparison between a 2024 Model 3 and an old Model S. Would love to see if you think older Model S's hold up.
I have a 2017 Model S. I test drove the highland. I was impressed with the ride. Almost as good as mine with air suspension.
I have a 2023 model 3 and I was given a 2017 model S P100D as a loaner while they serviced my car. I would not trade the 2 in a million years. The vertical screen sucks, layout is awful, quality is terrible, steering wheel is awkward. Now if you compare a 2023 and up model S they’ve fixed all those problems but an older version is pretty bad.
@nima6150 they fixed all that stuff you're talking about since the 2021 model s but yea
@@TCETESLAthey definitely didn’t fix the quality
@Courtesyflush52 Relative to a model 3 which he was comparing it to the S is better quality.
this is crazy, I own a 2018 model 3 that is basically identical and it does not have any of those problems, and mine has 130,000 miles! my seats are perfect, windows run perfect, no interior problems, zero rock chips (ok on this one I did ppf the front end...) it is still basically like a brand new car.
Some people just don't look after anything!
I had one of the first 3P which came to Norway, from 2019 to 2023, it was my second EV after having an X from 2017-2018. Then swapped to the 2023 YP.
I must say that a lot has happened to the Teslas from 2017>2023, but it should also be said that the 3P I sold had 85.000 Km and it was still looking good and working as it should. I had some initial issues that were taken care of. The Model Y has been just two small issues with, which mobile service has fixed when the car was parked outside my house.
I got a berlin YP :-) I was luckilly not one of the first few ones with heat pump issues.. Now about 26.000 Km into the YP, it looks still good in paint, interior etc.
The YP on 21" is actually more comfortable than the 2019 was on 19", I did also run the 2019 3P on 20", but got custom made forged wheels. Ended up doing KW V3 coilovers on the 2019 3P as the OEM shocks where too "bumpy".
The introduction earned my like 👍 🎉
🚥Those damn intros get me every time 😂😂😂😂…..Can I get a ohhhhhhyeahhhhh 😂😂😂😂😂🏁🏁
You guys make the absolute best car videos. Hilarious but informative. I always look forward to the intros!😂
loving the top gear wanna be style. Its good enough to watch
You guys must be wicked fun at parties! LOL
Did you say the old one only had 50k miles?! I've got a blue 2018 with 50k miles and the interior is practically mint. One squish on the passenger seat bolster and that's really it. On the outside I've got some paint wear on the side skirts right behind the front tires and that's really the extent of the damage out there too.
Rental car though. The thing has been mangled.
It's a Tesla rental, it's run been run through like a Lamborghini and maintained like a Toyota.
Mad Matts...Liner Richie.... Excellent!
5:05 300secs of Laughter!😂😂😂❤🎉
Beautiful spec on the Highland. Exactly how I specced it.
Very entertaining…as always. Still thankful for our EV6 and Bolt.
I have a Bolt too (in Europe under different brand) but I'm keeping an eye on the Model 3 depreciation. Perhaps I will make a switch. The Model 3 is more efficiënt and thus more range, obviously way faster charging. And the Bolt struggles to get the power down.
But yeah, the Bolt is made by a regular car company and ours is 6 years old and I haven't seen issues in our car with fit and finish or things falling apart. That and the new battery means the Bolt should be good for 10 years from now.
Love the new 3, but $50k is a lot for a car with such a pedestrian interior. I'm guessing that Tesla makes a bundle of profit with these things.
Easily the best car I’ve ever owned but still too expensive. But a used one. Lot better value.
50k is not 50k anymore
50k is for the performance, extra motor, and bigger battery. The 38k Tesla is literally the same amount of goodies minus 100 miles of extra range, the extra motor, and performance.
@@TheReal_JG And the 17 speaker system with dual subs.
There is no 2024 Performance, only rwd and lr.@@TheReal_JG
favorite skit intro thusfar (including the i8 vert)
this is the comparison we need. THIS