I have the same thing with zoltan kodaly's cello sonata, every time i get to the third movment my palms gey sweaty and cold and my fingers go limp Nice to know that im not the only musician that was traumatized by a hard piece, youre not alone man
Camille Saint-Saëns:1.a-moll Gordonkaverseny Op.33 1.Allegro non troppo 00:00 2.Allegretto con moto 05:27 3.Tempo primo (Molto allegro) 10:25 Msztyiszlav Rosztropovics-gordonka Londoni Filharmonikus Zenekar Vezényel:Carlo Maria Giulini
Thank you for this.... to advanced cellists: how would I approach you folks if I wanted to learn some Ravel piano sonatas? - film En Couer en Hiver.I’m not a pro, just serious amateur classical pianist..The musical collaboration would be awesome. [ I would pay hourly of course]. How do I approach a cellist? What if I’m only advanced intermediate level to early advanced piano? Thank you.
Did you mean the Ravel I know this comment is old but I think you would find many cellists who would be willing to play with you for free (not soloist level, but competent cellists). It's pretty hard for us string musicians to find pianists who will play with us for free. I would love to find a pianist who could focus their time on chamber music. But this all assumes you can play the piece (piano parts for chamber music tend to be pretty difficult). I've you're willing to pay, then you don't even have to worry so much, as long as you are paying a good rate. If you live in a city with a conservatory, then you can email the professor and give them information. If you are willing to pay, then you can contact them at anytime because musicians are always looking for more payed opportunities. Otherwise, right before the summer is the best time to ask because they would have more time and might be looking to try more repertoire (during the school year, they will be busy with their own chamber groups). However, you should refer to that work as the Ravel Piano Trio.
@@julius7539 Wow- thanks much for detailed comment. These are all excellent points and suggestions. I’m in computer programming but my parents “forced me” to practice and have lessons for yrs [one of the best decisions they made 🙂]and I mostly maintained that as an adult w/ a few years off. I’m in Chicago and no longer affiliated w/ a university. Good news though- our main library is one of a few in the US that has practice rooms. Lucky right? Withmy public library card, I can have 1 hr per day unless no one else needs it then I can practice more. During Covid situation, entire library was closed then when it re-opened, the practice rooms were not open. I just called library and the rooms got re-opened in July. I think I’ll post a note nearby asking to work w/ a cellist. My new landlady’s 9 year old daughter plays cello too so she won’t be too advanced, so this can be a new opportunity for us both. Thanks again for your insight. Super appreciate it. Oh, and I will refer to the Ravel correctly in the future🤭😉😉😀
@@cUser691 I'm also a software engineer now even though I studied music in school. I have never seen a public library that has practice rooms. You don't have to be associated with a university to work with college students but it's up to you which route you take. Just glad I could help.
Thanks very much for this -- very little respect for "the score" these days. I've always wondered what the hell cellists are trying to do in the two bars at 1:20 -- never sounds convincing. Not surprisingly -- crotchet tied to a triplet (countered by duple rhythms in the orchestra) was bound to beat them. This guy just plays semiquavers (actually, du Pré gets quite close). Not a bad effort compared to the rest though (I have not ventured into the realm of the Ma -- a man with no sense of rhythm whatsoever). Most painful moment is one of my favourite bits (15:18), starting from bottom C then rising to the stratosphere -- he makes very heavy weather of it and ends up sounding like someone's squeezing his nether regions (demonstrating very well the reason for the supplied "ossia"). Edit: This passage reminds me of the extraordinary F-major episode near the end of Grieg's Piano Concerto (incidentally, featuring a solo cello) ending on the very same top F. The 23-year-old Saint-Saëns composed his A-minor Cello Concerto in 1858; the 24-year-old Grieg his A-minor Piano Concerto ten years later. The influence of Schumann's Piano Concerto is often (rightly) cited in relation to Grieg's; it seems to me this Saint-Saëns work may have played a part too. (Then there's the heavenly F-major slow movement of Bruckner's 6th Symphony in A-major (1879), and it's undoubted influence upon Mahler in his (F-major) Adagietto.)
Do you honestly think these virtuoso cellists couldn't play the exact rhythm if they wanted to? It's a personal decision, and the fact that Saint-Saens chose to consistently mix duplets with triplets in this piece is evidence that the rhythm is meant to give a feel of uncertainty. Don't be a dumbass. However, I can tell that is completely out of the question when you are the type of moron who listens to an anti-vaxxer. Is that the only similarity you can find between Grieg's Piano Concerto and this piece? You will need a lot more evidence to say one was influenced by the other. Do you really just look for similarities in keys because that's what it seems like you are doing.
I played this years ago but my palms still get sweaty listening to this
I have the same thing with zoltan kodaly's cello sonata, every time i get to the third movment my palms gey sweaty and cold and my fingers go limp
Nice to know that im not the only musician that was traumatized by a hard piece, youre not alone man
I can tell you that Haydn D is worse 😝😝😝
Я, уже давно играла этот замечательный концерт, когда училась. Он остался у меня вмоих 😮пальцах ,в моей душе ,😅😅в моем сердце., Спасибо!!!
Me too…
watched a 14 year old perform this solo beautifully once from memory, still cant get over it
Camille Saint-Saëns:1.a-moll Gordonkaverseny Op.33
1.Allegro non troppo 00:00
2.Allegretto con moto 05:27
3.Tempo primo (Molto allegro) 10:25
Msztyiszlav Rosztropovics-gordonka
Londoni Filharmonikus Zenekar
Vezényel:Carlo Maria Giulini
Köszönöm az értékelést
Köszönöm az értékelést
Köszönöm az értékelést
Nagyon köszönöm
I just managed to pull off this magnificent piece. Thank God I still have my fingers
The rest of the cello repertoire won't allow you to stay that way, unfortunately
What a beautiful masterpiece. Thanks for the score!
This is hard but someday
I'm learning this piece rn，I can't wait until I sound this good
first concerto i've ever learned omg
10:25 3악장 ~~🎵
that is PURE baddieness♥♥♥♥♥
Looked for this after reading Sound of Bread (its a manhwa) I hope this is what the comic was referring to...
No because same 😭😭
6:31 7:12 8:16
14-27，warm melody
0:34 ---> Flute comes in
Thank you for this.... to advanced cellists: how would I approach you folks if I wanted to learn some Ravel piano sonatas? - film En Couer en Hiver.I’m not a pro, just serious amateur classical pianist..The musical collaboration would be awesome. [ I would pay hourly of course]. How do I approach a cellist? What if I’m only advanced intermediate level to early advanced piano? Thank you.
Did you mean the Ravel I know this comment is old but I think you would find many cellists who would be willing to play with you for free (not soloist level, but competent cellists). It's pretty hard for us string musicians to find pianists who will play with us for free. I would love to find a pianist who could focus their time on chamber music. But this all assumes you can play the piece (piano parts for chamber music tend to be pretty difficult).
I've you're willing to pay, then you don't even have to worry so much, as long as you are paying a good rate. If you live in a city with a conservatory, then you can email the professor and give them information. If you are willing to pay, then you can contact them at anytime because musicians are always looking for more payed opportunities. Otherwise, right before the summer is the best time to ask because they would have more time and might be looking to try more repertoire (during the school year, they will be busy with their own chamber groups).
However, you should refer to that work as the Ravel Piano Trio.
@@julius7539 Wow- thanks much for detailed comment. These are all excellent points and suggestions. I’m in computer programming but my parents “forced me” to practice and have lessons for yrs [one of the best decisions they made 🙂]and I mostly maintained that as an adult w/ a few years off. I’m in Chicago and no longer affiliated w/ a university. Good news though- our main library is one of a few in the US that has practice rooms. Lucky right? Withmy public library card, I can have 1 hr per day unless no one else needs it then I can practice more. During Covid situation, entire library was closed then when it re-opened, the practice rooms were not open. I just called library and the rooms got re-opened in July.
I think I’ll post a note nearby asking to work w/ a cellist. My new landlady’s 9 year old daughter plays cello too so she won’t be too advanced, so this can be a new opportunity for us both.
Thanks again for your insight. Super appreciate it. Oh, and I will refer to the Ravel correctly in the future🤭😉😉😀
@@cUser691 I'm also a software engineer now even though I studied music in school. I have never seen a public library that has practice rooms. You don't have to be associated with a university to work with college students but it's up to you which route you take. Just glad I could help.
I think my fingers might fall off when I get good at the cello part
9:52
Thanks very much for this -- very little respect for "the score" these days. I've always wondered what the hell cellists are trying to do in the two bars at 1:20 -- never sounds convincing. Not surprisingly -- crotchet tied to a triplet (countered by duple rhythms in the orchestra) was bound to beat them. This guy just plays semiquavers (actually, du Pré gets quite close).
Not a bad effort compared to the rest though (I have not ventured into the realm of the Ma -- a man with no sense of rhythm whatsoever). Most painful moment is one of my favourite bits (15:18), starting from bottom C then rising to the stratosphere -- he makes very heavy weather of it and ends up sounding like someone's squeezing his nether regions (demonstrating very well the reason for the supplied "ossia").
Edit: This passage reminds me of the extraordinary F-major episode near the end of Grieg's Piano Concerto (incidentally, featuring a solo cello) ending on the very same top F. The 23-year-old Saint-Saëns composed his A-minor Cello Concerto in 1858; the 24-year-old Grieg his A-minor Piano Concerto ten years later. The influence of Schumann's Piano Concerto is often (rightly) cited in relation to Grieg's; it seems to me this Saint-Saëns work may have played a part too. (Then there's the heavenly F-major slow movement of Bruckner's 6th Symphony in A-major (1879), and it's undoubted influence upon Mahler in his (F-major) Adagietto.)
I'm sorry, but nobody asked.....
the man above is defending a person disrespectful to rostropovich
Sometimes people are surprised that someone else would stop to write something meaningful and insightful on YT. Don’t mind them.
The person above me is defending the loud af chatterbox
Do you honestly think these virtuoso cellists couldn't play the exact rhythm if they wanted to? It's a personal decision, and the fact that Saint-Saens chose to consistently mix duplets with triplets in this piece is evidence that the rhythm is meant to give a feel of uncertainty. Don't be a dumbass. However, I can tell that is completely out of the question when you are the type of moron who listens to an anti-vaxxer.
Is that the only similarity you can find between Grieg's Piano Concerto and this piece? You will need a lot more evidence to say one was influenced by the other. Do you really just look for similarities in keys because that's what it seems like you are doing.
😍
16:27, 17:34,
great song, hard af to play tho :(
2 25 batman
I’m learning this piece at age 11 and it is so hard🥵
How you doing so far
How good are you now? Just curious how long it took you haha
Same but at 13 the age u are now lol, how is it?
Please, can you arrange for Tenor Saxophone in C minor?
Bruh