That cello is fascinating. That's what it is supposed to do. But, Rachmaninoff would never relegate his piano to a simple supporting role. The cello must grab your heart while the piano caresses your brain. Heavenly perfect.
Jules Gardet I see what you’re saying. I also think the way he grabbed you with the lower end of the piano could’ve had some traded left hand chord patterns with the cello’s lower end. In a way as the cello was and still can be considered the bass instrument in a string quartet, it also has the right kind of bow and the right orientation to make double stops heavy. But the cello’s melodious side serves as the perfect counterpoint to its ability to be the badinerie of strong instruments: to chug away at the most climatic and intense parts of a piece where the pianist’s left hand can double it an octave down while the right hand flies around the rhythm provided. Hold on, are there any pieces like that you know of? Would love to hear it. Edit: 16:47 would be a great example of this in play.
Jules Gardet Rachmaninov’s title sonata for Pianoforte and violoncello. That order matters with the piano placed first in the title. It’s no accident that the piano predominates in this composition. It follows the traditional piano sonata with an obligate accompaniment for a stringed instrument like the accompanied piano sonatas of Mozart and Beethoven. Also Beethoven’s sets of variations for Pianoforte with violoncello oblige. Beethoven’s sonatas are full fledged duo sonatas. The piano plays a dominant and preeminent role in these compositions. Both instruments are of equally high importance. You all need to rethink how you listen to these pieces and take into consideration the composer’s intentions.
Top Secret Jules Gardet Rachmaninov’s title sonata for Pianoforte and violoncello. That order matters with the piano placed first in the title. It’s no accident that the piano predominates in this composition. It follows the traditional piano sonata with an obligate accompaniment for a stringed instrument like the accompanied piano sonatas of Mozart and Beethoven. Also Beethoven’s sets of variations for Pianoforte with violoncello oblige. Beethoven’s sonatas are full fledged duo sonatas. The piano plays a dominant and preeminent role in these compositions. Both instruments are of equally high importance. You all need to rethink how you listen to these pieces and take into consideration the composer’s intentions.
@@coralreef909 You and I know this and I do believe many here know this as well judging by some other people who have commented on it. The problem is the people who DON'T know this. Even in the upload of this video itself shows that in that while the music itself even says pianoforte and cello sonata on the front cover, the uploader only listed it as a cello sonata. Unfortunately there are many who do not give collaborative pianists the acknowledgement they deserve when it comes to duets with another instrumentalist. Many see that and think 'solo with piano accompaniment' rather than piano having equal weight with the other instrument.
Indeed it's sounds like Rachmaninov was on his way by train visiting his good cello player friend A. BRANDUKOV and suddenly realized it was his friend's birthday.... Luckily he had this fresh piano sonata in his suitcase, a working pen and was still 30 minutes away from destination
14:45 - 16:30 Wow this section is so painfully gorgeous. The cello has this simple yet elegant melody played over beautiful arpeggios and ornaments on the piano, and they occasionally hit a note in unison. I'm flooded with feelings of heartbreak, nostalgia, warmth, and happiness all at once. It reminds me of his piano concerto; I'm not sure which one, perhaps multiple. I can't find the words to describe it, but Rachmaninoff was something else.
It's great isn't it? iirc the movement is about a carriage being chased by a beast in the forest and the softer sections are the mother singing lullabies to sooth her children. Very beautiful.
i just had 2 artists performing this piece in my own living room today. Made me in tears. I came to realize how lucky I am living in this life and in this world with such a music in my life. Just amazing. No words.
pianist: his fingers bleed after playing this piece cellist: playing lovable melodies quietly people: It's so beautiful this CELLO sonata pianist: am I a joke to you?
as a collaborative pianist, this is the case for a LOT of the sonata repertoire, across all instruments, but particularly the string canon. we ended up with some of the most gorgeous music out there, but they're basically piano sonatas with string accompaniment lol. i'd say there are very few i would consider collaborative, in the sense that the work load is barely what i'd call, shall we say, equivalent effort. half the composers were string players and didn't know how to write for piano idiomatically, or were pianists and new how to use the full range of the instrument to it's fullest, and to painful but beautiful effect. don't even get me started on the Franck violin sonata. that man had NO business writing for the piano. he was primarily an organist and it SHOWS.
Davide Garamella well if you took the time out to read the title page of this sonata you will see where Rachmaninov clearly states this is a sonata for Pianoforte and violoncello and not the other way round. That’s right. You saw right. The Piano is the more important instrument with the cello in an obbligato role. Incidentally this applies across the board to a lot of sonatas and pieces by other composers. Eg. The Beethoven sonatas and sets of variations for Pianoforte and violoncello where the piano is clearly the featured instrument. Mendelssohn’s two sonatas for the duo of instruments. All of Mozart’s entire sonata output for Pianoforte and violin are fact Piano sonatas with the accompaniment of a violin as he specifically states. The accompanied Piano sonata was the norm in the eighteenth century. The existence of the solo piano sonata really confuses things except to say the keyboard sonata with an accompanying string instrument or instruments was intended to be more of a chamber composition featuring the piano. The practice carried on well into the 19th and early 20th centuries.
Always managed to make me cry and touched. And also, i'm happy that this is a sonata for cello and piano. No offense here. But cello playing in that tenor register with that melody is just soooo beautifull.
This sonata makes me feel like i'm actually FLYING, I can never tire of it, such a sublime experience. Thanks for uploading this version, it's magnificent
For years I thought Rachmaninoff was boring . . . until I began hearing his work on the radio (as you can imagine, it was mainly the big pieces, like the symphonies and concerti), at which point my ears opened up and I could enjoy his compositions. I really like cello-piano works, and this one is terrific. Thank you for posting it.
That theme at 24:26...absolutely gorgeous. This is the best version of this sonata, for both the cello and piano part, I've heard on youtube. Yuja Wang comes in a distinct second.
the piano part in the 3rd movement sounds more sophisticated than the cello part, because it works both as an orchestra accompaniment and a duet tenor to echo the cello theme
But Wagner’s Adagio is a thing of beauty which would, I think, have stirred Beethoven and made him apologize for any bad thoughts he might have had about the Bavarian master.
The writing from 26:47-27:12 or so (and particularly after 27:00) is really beautiful and quite incredible. Such fantastic textural interaction for these instruments. I actually find this recording balanced very well, despite what some are saying. I can hear the cello plenty and all the filler stuff in the piano part is kept in the background.
SO many glorious melodies in this piece: the second subject of mvt1, the second part of the A section of the scherzo and its trio, the whole slow movement and the 'big tune' B section of the finale. My favourite cello sonata by a mile.
A mesmerizing performance. The skill and artistry of Gutman and Virsaladze are exceptional in this complex and powerful piece. We forget that such beauty exists in the world. And then we are reminded...
He knows exactly when to let the cello shine in this piece. It always comes just in the nick of time, and for those brief moments where the piano and cello collide it can feel like you’ve never heard classical until just then.
The technical difficulties of the piano in this Sonata exceed his Piano Concerto no.2 and the beautiful melody pervades everywhere. But, this piece came out in the same year as his Piano Concerto No.2 and was eclipsed by Concerto’s success. I hope this piece will become famous.
This was composed at the same time as his 2nd Concerto alongsiide Rachmaninoff''s suite for two pianos and his famous Prelude in G minor. Rachmaninoff's best work came out of this era and this piano and cello sonata demonstrates that.
this is a brilliant work of art (from a genius composer, of course) and a brilliant performance (Natalia Gutman (cello), Elisso Virsaladze (piano) - you've created the best version of this sonata). thank you. I am struck by the interaction between the cello and the piano because they are like lovers, sometimes fighting with each other, then merging in tenderness and passion. you know, it's a miracle.
i agree this one is very good. You might also like Mikyung Sung's performance with Ilya Rashkovskiy, or this one: ua-cam.com/video/goMZ0CsSaWo/v-deo.html
15:50-16:10 Oh damn that is beautiful. I'm not very familiar with this piece just yet, but the piano passagework is so similar to the concerti! Holy crap it's insane that he fit those kind of phrases in such a scary/crazy movement.
Just wanted to thank you for making this treasure public! It is simply amazing! Impossibly beautiful, particularly the 3rd movement. No words to describe it. Thank you!
Until this performance never heard of the cellist Natalia Gutman. She's not a young musician. But her recording from 15 years ago at the age of 64 is simply amazing.similar feeling i have for her pianist. Years ago_before youtube_ i listened to few recordings from libraries and finally decided to include a version by Mischa Maisky in my itunes ipod . This version is surprisingly a better one . And Maisky is a giant in my books.
Oh yes! By far my favourite part! It sounds like your heart getting broken... and you want to avoid it but you can't. The pain is inevitable. This is what this part sounds like.
There’s a marvelous fit between the cello and piano sounds that is not matched by the violin and piano. IMO, it brings masterpieces out of several composers that are not matched by what they write for violin and piano. I’m thinking, of course, of Beethoven especially. But then you have the other great Romance Era composer as well - Chopin. He wrote beautifully for the cello and piano! But back to Beethoven: as much as one loves the Kreutzer, it’s the cello sonatas that really press the buttons. You can feel Beethoven hearing those cello themes in his head and keeping the piano busy with rapid semiquavers while he makes the cello sing. Just like Rach and Chopin do it!
I love Rachmaninov-and this piece-because he has an amazing way of creating a collaborative relationship between the piano and soloists. His art songs are amazing. Whenever I feel down, I listen to Rachmaninov.
I agree, but the thing is, I kinda love listening to Rachmaninoff in order to feel down, to feel this special nostalgia, this love and thankfulness to be a human, or as I call it: 'Rachmaninoff-feeling'. In this piece, e.g. 24:27
When I was a little child, once in a while I used to visit my uncle in his cattleguard away from the village where there was no TV, only a battery radio that had a few radio stations omong them one was only broadcasting classical music. I remember myself listening to the classical station early in life with pure curiosity. Now I understand how lucky I was.
Finally, one interpretation where they don't rush the Andante... or not as much. I even prefer this at 0.75x play speed. I dislike speed-obsessed practice where the music loses its identity and cannot breathe.
It really is, IMO, one of the greatest works of the Romantic era. I had a friend at school who was a great cellist and I regret so much that I never got to play this wonderful work with him. It is so intensely beautiful; it speaks to me every time I listen to it; it has a kind of sadly reflective quality about it that makes me tear up every single time I listen to it. What an absolute masterpiece!
Sonatas for piano and violin I’m off to Vienna to rehearse four programmes of Mozart’s music which violinist Erich Höbarth and I are playing this season in Perth Concert Hall, Scotland’s newest concert hall (our first concert is on November 11). We’re tackling twelve of Mozart’s sonatas for piano and violin. Piano and violin, I hear you say? Isn’t it ‘violin and piano’? Well, not according to Mozart who called them ‘sonatas for piano and violin’. In his letters, he mentions playing the piano parts himself ‘with the accompaniment of a violin’. That was how they were perceived until the nineteenth century and the age of the celebrity violinist, when things flipped around. These works, and many others like them, started to be listed as ‘violin sonatas’, and the piano part was suddenly ‘the accompaniment’. Even today the violinist is often the one with their photo on the record cover, the one whose name is in bigger font in the programme, or the only one whose name is mentioned at the end of the radio broadcast. Why does this matter? It matters because the re-labelling tricks people into perceiving things falsely. They expect the violin part to be the leading voice, when in fact the meat of the musical narrative is in the piano part. If you approach these works expecting the violin part to be pre-eminent, you experience a kind of cognitive dissonance as you listen: often the violin is doing something quite modest, and you sense that the piano part is full of interest and information, but you don’t understand why such prominent material should be relegated to ‘the accompaniment’. The answer is that it isn’t an accompaniment. If you switch to hearing the music as piano with violin, everything falls into place. Of course you still need an excellent violinist, and perhaps even more importantly, an excellent musician, both of which I’m fortunate to have. With more historical awareness, and with the intervention of a few strong-minded pianists, things are beginning to move back to Mozart’s original concept of ‘sonatas for piano with violin’. If you look up all the available recordings on Spotify, you’ll find about half of the duo sonatas advertised with the pianist’s name first, the other half with the violinist’s name first. This shows the confusion around the topic. It’s clearly a situation in transition, but at least there is movement. Liked this post? Subscribe to the RSS feed for more of the same!
Ah, I noticed the similarities to the D Minor Piano Sonata (one of my favorite pieces), and saw that it had been mentioned in the description. In particular, note that the cadence at 6:43 is very similar to that which concludes the first movement of the D Minor.
Did anyone notice the great similarities between the final part of the sonata (from about minute 30, for instance) and the final part of third concerto? It's a known fact? I never listened this sonata before and this fact is the first thing I noticed...
I hear more similarities between that movement and the 4th movement of his second symphony, in mood and construction. Also, one might compare the movement as well to the third movement of his second piano sonata. The climbing triplet figures of 1900's "hollywood-style heroism" (i like to call it that) comes up often in Rachmaninoff and is better dismissed as simply part of his style. First of the second set of preludes has the rhythm and similar mood (though not the same) as well.
The beginning of the Andante sounds just like the quiet middle section from Rachmaninoff's E'tude op. 39 no. 5; definitely takes it in a much different (more hopeful) direction here than in the E'tude.
@@FreakieFan I do believe there isn't a "more difficult" part to either instrument as he did make it equally balanced in each of the instruments' own difficulties
I once saw a version in the first movement, which in the octaves in the treble clef instead of being pizzicato, were triplets. Does anyone know this version¿
I recall back at the conservatory, in theory class we were listening to rachaminoff's 2nd mvt of the 2nd piano concerto and the cadenza and a student remarked that she didn't like rachaminoff's music because it's too sensual and makes her feel dirty. Is there such a phenomenon as too much passion in music. If I feel the music, then it's real.
Muchas gracias por haber subido esta bella obra que combina la expresividad con la fluidez melódica de su autor. Podría decirse que es un elegante autor romático cntemporáneo.
I went to the comments thinking "please let there be comments about how the cello takes back seat to the piano so I know I'm not the only one thinking that." I was not disappointed.
Lol. It is absolutely hilarious that anyone is referring to this as a "cello sonata." This is Rachmaninoff's "Piano sonata in G minor with some Cello you occasionally hear in the background., possibly also playing in G minor but we really can't tell."
It is very very well played, don't get me wrong. I could not do it at this very interesting tempo myself. But I find that too many times, the cello is a little flat, but even more seriously not in synch with the piano. It is hearable in the second movement. This changes the harmonies completely, making it sound like the cello part is an appoggiatura most of the time every time the "lyrical theme" comes on. But hey, it it beautifully played and all of this might also be interpretation choices. Just my opinion.
When I gave the music to my collaborative pianist, she looked horrified. I must say she was a beast and the mountains of respect I had for her doubled.
In my opinion it's sad that the 2nd piano concerto, released the same year, got far more attention than this piece. This sonata has so many beautiful melodies.
Granted that it is trully an underrated extremelly beautiful piece but PC 2 is one of the most haunting and enchanting piece of clasical music ever. For many the best piano concerto ever composed, no less. Melody is no doubt one of the outstanding characteristic of Russian classical music. S Rachmaninov is no exception. Nando dal Venezuela.
The 2nd concerto is easier to play. This thing is a monster.
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I don't understand... "Rachmaninov disliked calling this work a cello sonata because he thought the two instruments were equal. Because of this, it is often referred to as Sonata in G minor for Cello and Piano." You wrote that in the description and even though titled the video: "Sergei Rachmaninov - CELLO SONATA in G minor"
It IS a cello sonata, by definition... the point is that it is sometimes referred to as a sonata for 'cello and piano' as per Rachnaninoff's preferences. Usually though, a sonata written for cello and piano is simply called a 'Cello sonata'. As a pianist... yeah I can't help but think that is a little bit unfair...
See: every cello sonata ever written.... Beethoven, Chopin, Mendelssohn, Brahms, etc. And I’m a cellist. Treat your piano player very kindly. Wash their feet, so to speak.
Not cello sonata but sonata for Pianoforte and violoncello. Note the order of the instruments with the piano placed first in the title followed by the cello. It’s a duo sonata with the piano part being of central importance. The piano part is highly virtuosic. Not meant to be mistakenly construed as an accompaniment.
That cello is fascinating. That's what it is supposed to do. But, Rachmaninoff would never relegate his piano to a simple supporting role. The cello must grab your heart while the piano caresses your brain.
Heavenly perfect.
Very poetic
Jules Gardet
I see what you’re saying. I also think the way he grabbed you with the lower end of the piano could’ve had some traded left hand chord patterns with the cello’s lower end. In a way as the cello was and still can be considered the bass instrument in a string quartet, it also has the right kind of bow and the right orientation to make double stops heavy. But the cello’s melodious side serves as the perfect counterpoint to its ability to be the badinerie of strong instruments: to chug away at the most climatic and intense parts of a piece where the pianist’s left hand can double it an octave down while the right hand flies around the rhythm provided. Hold on, are there any pieces like that you know of? Would love to hear it.
Edit: 16:47 would be a great example of this in play.
Jules Gardet Rachmaninov’s title sonata for Pianoforte and violoncello. That order matters with the piano placed first in the title. It’s no accident that the piano predominates in this composition. It follows the traditional piano sonata with an obligate accompaniment for a stringed instrument like the accompanied piano sonatas of Mozart and Beethoven. Also Beethoven’s sets of variations for Pianoforte with violoncello oblige. Beethoven’s sonatas are full fledged duo sonatas. The piano plays a dominant and preeminent role in these compositions. Both instruments are of equally high importance. You all need to rethink how you listen to these pieces and take into consideration the composer’s intentions.
Top Secret Jules Gardet Rachmaninov’s title sonata for Pianoforte and violoncello. That order matters with the piano placed first in the title. It’s no accident that the piano predominates in this composition. It follows the traditional piano sonata with an obligate accompaniment for a stringed instrument like the accompanied piano sonatas of Mozart and Beethoven. Also Beethoven’s sets of variations for Pianoforte with violoncello oblige. Beethoven’s sonatas are full fledged duo sonatas. The piano plays a dominant and preeminent role in these compositions. Both instruments are of equally high importance. You all need to rethink how you listen to these pieces and take into consideration the composer’s intentions.
@@coralreef909 You and I know this and I do believe many here know this as well judging by some other people who have commented on it. The problem is the people who DON'T know this. Even in the upload of this video itself shows that in that while the music itself even says pianoforte and cello sonata on the front cover, the uploader only listed it as a cello sonata.
Unfortunately there are many who do not give collaborative pianists the acknowledgement they deserve when it comes to duets with another instrumentalist. Many see that and think 'solo with piano accompaniment' rather than piano having equal weight with the other instrument.
This is why the internet is important.
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James Long. I could not have said it any better.
seriously. I was going crazy trying to find this song and here it is. Fucking piano and cello. beautiful.
@@stevevolk2881 ^ We say "pieces" in classical music terminology. A song is something very specific in classical music.
@@rominn2184 Ok ^^
Indeed it's sounds like Rachmaninov was on his way by train visiting his good cello player friend A. BRANDUKOV and suddenly realized it was his friend's birthday.... Luckily he had this fresh piano sonata in his suitcase, a working pen and was still 30 minutes away from destination
Hahahahaha love what you’re implying
lmao
Whahaha, that's great.
14:45 - 16:30 Wow this section is so painfully gorgeous. The cello has this simple yet elegant melody played over beautiful arpeggios and ornaments on the piano, and they occasionally hit a note in unison. I'm flooded with feelings of heartbreak, nostalgia, warmth, and happiness all at once. It reminds me of his piano concerto; I'm not sure which one, perhaps multiple. I can't find the words to describe it, but Rachmaninoff was something else.
It's great isn't it? iirc the movement is about a carriage being chased by a beast in the forest and the softer sections are the mother singing lullabies to sooth her children. Very beautiful.
It reminds me the ark society.
@@offaris2905 lol, that’s where I came from also
@@coletont.2314 It’s cool I thought I was the only one ;) Did you like this map ?
@Stephen D this was written at the same time as the C minor concerto.
i just had 2 artists performing this piece in my own living room today. Made me in tears. I came to realize how lucky I am living in this life and in this world with such a music in my life. Just amazing. No words.
Wow you're living a grand life
pianist: his fingers bleed after playing this piece
cellist: playing lovable melodies quietly
people: It's so beautiful this CELLO sonata
pianist: am I a joke to you?
Pretty much sums it up.
Like when you play a Brahms song and everyone talks about how beautiful the singer's voice is.
Cool.
Davide Garamella this applies for Chopin cello sonata
as a collaborative pianist, this is the case for a LOT of the sonata repertoire, across all instruments, but particularly the string canon. we ended up with some of the most gorgeous music out there, but they're basically piano sonatas with string accompaniment lol. i'd say there are very few i would consider collaborative, in the sense that the work load is barely what i'd call, shall we say, equivalent effort. half the composers were string players and didn't know how to write for piano idiomatically, or were pianists and new how to use the full range of the instrument to it's fullest, and to painful but beautiful effect. don't even get me started on the Franck violin sonata. that man had NO business writing for the piano. he was primarily an organist and it SHOWS.
Davide Garamella well if you took the time out to read the title page of this sonata you will see where Rachmaninov clearly states this is a sonata for Pianoforte and violoncello and not the other way round. That’s right. You saw right. The Piano is the more important instrument with the cello in an obbligato role. Incidentally this applies across the board to a lot of sonatas and pieces by other composers. Eg. The Beethoven sonatas and sets of variations for Pianoforte and violoncello where the piano is clearly the featured instrument. Mendelssohn’s two sonatas for the duo of instruments. All of Mozart’s entire sonata output for Pianoforte and violin are fact Piano sonatas with the accompaniment of a violin as he specifically states. The accompanied Piano sonata was the norm in the eighteenth century. The existence of the solo piano sonata really confuses things except to say the keyboard sonata with an accompanying string instrument or instruments was intended to be more of a chamber composition featuring the piano. The practice carried on well into the 19th and early 20th centuries.
Gosh, the third movement. No words.
agree..
Sorry for my ignorance. But when you say the third movement, you mean the Andante??
I know what you mean and agree, it's beautiful.
Luiz Guilherme Muniz Barboza yes
Always managed to make me cry and touched. And also, i'm happy that this is a sonata for cello and piano. No offense here. But cello playing in that tenor register with that melody is just soooo beautifull.
This sonata makes me feel like i'm actually FLYING, I can never tire of it, such a sublime experience.
Thanks for uploading this version, it's magnificent
For years I thought Rachmaninoff was boring . . . until I began hearing his work on the radio (as you can imagine, it was mainly the big pieces, like the symphonies and concerti), at which point my ears opened up and I could enjoy his compositions. I really like cello-piano works, and this one is terrific. Thank you for posting it.
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1.Lento -- Allegro moderato 00:05
2.Allegro scherzando 12:50
3.Andante 19:03
4.Allegro mosso 25:19
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Elisso Virsaladze-zongora
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That theme at 24:26...absolutely gorgeous.
This is the best version of this sonata, for both the cello and piano part, I've heard on youtube. Yuja Wang comes in a distinct second.
Oh yes, especially this a flat minor at 24:30
Parts like these make me love my life.
It just breaks your heart...
I do like this one too. You might also like Mikyung Sung with Ilya Rashkovskiy (which was uploaded long after your comment).
Happy 150th birthday to Rachmaninov, one of my favorite composers!
the piano part in the 3rd movement sounds more sophisticated than the cello part, because it works both as an orchestra accompaniment and a duet tenor to echo the cello theme
The Andante must be one of the loveliest pieces in all of music -heart melting
If it is the one I'm thinking of, listen to the Volodos piano transcription. It's interesting in it's own right.
this work was the one work that introduced me to classical music and to this day this is still one of my favorite pieces of all time.
I love Beethoven and Wagner. But Rachmaninov is out of this world. He mixes passion and wisdom in his works.
If you tell Beethoven’s spirit you love Wagner, he’ll be very short with you: “Napoleonic crap” might be his answer!
But Wagner’s Adagio is a thing of beauty which would, I think, have stirred Beethoven and made him apologize for any bad thoughts he might have had about the Bavarian master.
The writing from 26:47-27:12 or so (and particularly after 27:00) is really beautiful and quite incredible. Such fantastic textural interaction for these instruments. I actually find this recording balanced very well, despite what some are saying. I can hear the cello plenty and all the filler stuff in the piano part is kept in the background.
SO many glorious melodies in this piece: the second subject of mvt1, the second part of the A section of the scherzo and its trio, the whole slow movement and the 'big tune' B section of the finale. My favourite cello sonata by a mile.
26:37 Feliz Navidad.
so it was written by Rachmaninoff all along...
@@richinoya_ Yup. It looks like José Feliciano owes Rachmaninoff's descendants some royalties. :P
I can't unhear this lmao
A mesmerizing performance. The skill and artistry of Gutman and Virsaladze are exceptional in this complex and powerful piece. We forget that such beauty exists in the world. And then we are reminded...
He knows exactly when to let the cello shine in this piece. It always comes just in the nick of time, and for those brief moments where the piano and cello collide it can feel like you’ve never heard classical until just then.
The technical difficulties of the piano in this Sonata exceed his Piano Concerto no.2 and the beautiful melody pervades everywhere.
But, this piece came out in the same year as his Piano Concerto No.2 and was eclipsed by Concerto’s success.
I hope this piece will become famous.
16:30 rachmaninoff 2nd piano concerto
omg I just realized!
Rachmaninov's works are so incredibly beautiful, beyond words, masterpieces.
This was composed at the same time as his 2nd Concerto alongsiide Rachmaninoff''s suite for two pianos and his famous Prelude in G minor. Rachmaninoff's best work came out of this era and this piano and cello sonata demonstrates that.
Interesting observation.
this is a brilliant work of art (from a genius composer, of course) and a brilliant performance (Natalia Gutman (cello), Elisso Virsaladze (piano) - you've created the best version of this sonata). thank you. I am struck by the interaction between the cello and the piano because they are like lovers, sometimes fighting with each other, then merging in tenderness and passion. you know, it's a miracle.
i agree this one is very good. You might also like Mikyung Sung's performance with Ilya Rashkovskiy, or this one: ua-cam.com/video/goMZ0CsSaWo/v-deo.html
15:50-16:10
Oh damn that is beautiful. I'm not very familiar with this piece just yet, but the piano passagework is so similar to the concerti! Holy crap it's insane that he fit those kind of phrases in such a scary/crazy movement.
4 years later but yeah the ascending progression right at 15:55 gives me chills every time
Just wanted to thank you for making this treasure public! It is simply amazing!
Impossibly beautiful, particularly the 3rd movement. No words to describe it. Thank you!
Finally the re-uploads of my favourite composer!
+Lorenzo De Angeli Ah yes! More tomorrow :)
I love listening to this piece! After seeing it performed live, I can't get it out of my head! It's amazing
My ofd music teacher, Anne Ksrnofsky, played it better./
@@underzog Who asked
Until this performance never heard of the cellist Natalia Gutman. She's not a young musician. But her recording from 15 years ago at the age of 64 is simply amazing.similar feeling i have for her pianist. Years ago_before youtube_ i listened to few recordings from libraries and finally decided to include a version by Mischa Maisky in my itunes ipod . This version is surprisingly a better one . And Maisky is a giant in my books.
24:27 That part kills me man
Oh yes! By far my favourite part! It sounds like your heart getting broken... and you want to avoid it but you can't. The pain is inevitable.
This is what this part sounds like.
First time hearing this. Beautiful. Classic Rachmaninoff piano figurations and gorgeous melodies in the cello.
Wonderful to see the score as it is played.
6:30 gives me chills...
There’s a marvelous fit between the cello and piano sounds that is not matched by the violin and piano. IMO, it brings masterpieces out of several composers that are not matched by what they write for violin and piano. I’m thinking, of course, of Beethoven especially. But then you have the other great Romance Era composer as well - Chopin. He wrote beautifully for the cello and piano! But back to Beethoven: as much as one loves the Kreutzer, it’s the cello sonatas that really press the buttons. You can feel Beethoven hearing those cello themes in his head and keeping the piano busy with rapid semiquavers while he makes the cello sing. Just like Rach and Chopin do it!
I love Rachmaninov-and this piece-because he has an amazing way of creating a collaborative relationship between the piano and soloists. His art songs are amazing. Whenever I feel down, I listen to Rachmaninov.
I agree, but the thing is, I kinda love listening to Rachmaninoff in order to feel down, to feel this special nostalgia, this love and thankfulness to be a human, or as I call it: 'Rachmaninoff-feeling'.
In this piece, e.g. 24:27
This feels like such raw and unfiltered emotion that can only be carried through music.
Can't agree more! Especially e.g. the dark turn at 27:33 or 24:26
When I was a little child, once in a while I used to visit my uncle in his cattleguard away from the village where there was no TV, only a battery radio that had a few radio stations omong them one was only broadcasting classical music. I remember myself listening to the classical station early in life with pure curiosity. Now I understand how lucky I was.
Thanks for providing the score. The piano is rather overwhelming in particular passages. So It's nice to see what the cello part looks like.
1st mouvement sounds like being played by only one artist wirh 4 hands; rarely heard anything so harmonious
this piece is why i don't regret picking cello
Finally, one interpretation where they don't rush the Andante... or not as much. I even prefer this at 0.75x play speed. I dislike speed-obsessed practice where the music loses its identity and cannot breathe.
Finally listened to the full sonata and my God that andante is beautiful
It really is, IMO, one of the greatest works of the Romantic era. I had a friend at school who was a great cellist and I regret so much that I never got to play this wonderful work with him. It is so intensely beautiful; it speaks to me every time I listen to it; it has a kind of sadly reflective quality about it that makes me tear up every single time I listen to it. What an absolute masterpiece!
What a brilliant cello sonata. It is definitely one of my favorite cello sonatas!
Piano and cello sonata 😤
@@gabrieltelemaqueninin7626 Ok.
Sonatas for piano and violin
I’m off to Vienna to rehearse four programmes of Mozart’s music which violinist Erich Höbarth and I are playing this season in Perth Concert Hall, Scotland’s newest concert hall (our first concert is on November 11). We’re tackling twelve of Mozart’s sonatas for piano and violin.
Piano and violin, I hear you say? Isn’t it ‘violin and piano’? Well, not according to Mozart who called them ‘sonatas for piano and violin’. In his letters, he mentions playing the piano parts himself ‘with the accompaniment of a violin’. That was how they were perceived until the nineteenth century and the age of the celebrity violinist, when things flipped around. These works, and many others like them, started to be listed as ‘violin sonatas’, and the piano part was suddenly ‘the accompaniment’. Even today the violinist is often the one with their photo on the record cover, the one whose name is in bigger font in the programme, or the only one whose name is mentioned at the end of the radio broadcast.
Why does this matter? It matters because the re-labelling tricks people into perceiving things falsely. They expect the violin part to be the leading voice, when in fact the meat of the musical narrative is in the piano part. If you approach these works expecting the violin part to be pre-eminent, you experience a kind of cognitive dissonance as you listen: often the violin is doing something quite modest, and you sense that the piano part is full of interest and information, but you don’t understand why such prominent material should be relegated to ‘the accompaniment’. The answer is that it isn’t an accompaniment. If you switch to hearing the music as piano with violin, everything falls into place. Of course you still need an excellent violinist, and perhaps even more importantly, an excellent musician, both of which I’m fortunate to have.
With more historical awareness, and with the intervention of a few strong-minded pianists, things are beginning to move back to Mozart’s original concept of ‘sonatas for piano with violin’. If you look up all the available recordings on Spotify, you’ll find about half of the duo sonatas advertised with the pianist’s name first, the other half with the violinist’s name first. This shows the confusion around the topic. It’s clearly a situation in transition, but at least there is movement.
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Ah, I noticed the similarities to the D Minor Piano Sonata (one of my favorite pieces), and saw that it had been mentioned in the description. In particular, note that the cadence at 6:43 is very similar to that which concludes the first movement of the D Minor.
First listen and I love it. What but Rachmaninoff?!?! Ahh perfection!!!
One of my favorite pieces of music by Rachmaninoff.
I had never heard this magnificent piece before this. What a superb jewel.
Did anyone notice the great similarities between the final part of the sonata (from about minute 30, for instance) and the final part of third concerto? It's a known fact? I never listened this sonata before and this fact is the first thing I noticed...
I hear more similarities between that movement and the 4th movement of his second symphony, in mood and construction. Also, one might compare the movement as well to the third movement of his second piano sonata. The climbing triplet figures of 1900's "hollywood-style heroism" (i like to call it that) comes up often in Rachmaninoff and is better dismissed as simply part of his style. First of the second set of preludes has the rhythm and similar mood (though not the same) as well.
The beginning of the Andante sounds just like the quiet middle section from Rachmaninoff's E'tude op. 39 no. 5; definitely takes it in a much different (more hopeful) direction here than in the E'tude.
Piano part is too difficult. Great music.
Difficult? Try the Third Concerto. I will say, along with the 2nd Concerto, this is Rachmaninoff's greatest work.
If you play cello you will notice the cello part is insanely difficult as well.
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Not nearly as difficult as the piano part though
@@FreakieFan I do believe there isn't a "more difficult" part to either instrument as he did make it equally balanced in each of the instruments' own difficulties
@@nicolasmlopezz
I disagree
I always had a surprising feeling. In that sonata by Rachmaninov, we can find a lot of Chopin's "morbidezza", whilst Chopin's own sonanta is lighter.
My music teacher (who played piano) said this is not hard and happy to play.
She fucking lied.
This is sometimes labeled a cello sonata. It is not. It is a sonata for piano and cello, with each player given equal prominence.
I once saw a version in the first movement, which in the octaves in the treble clef instead of being pizzicato, were triplets. Does anyone know this version¿
Pure ecstasy, only Rachmaninov makes me feel like that!
Skryabin?
I recall back at the conservatory, in theory class we were listening to rachaminoff's 2nd mvt of the 2nd piano concerto and the cadenza and a student remarked that she didn't like rachaminoff's music because it's too sensual and makes her feel dirty. Is there such a phenomenon as too much passion in music. If I feel the music, then it's real.
12:51 Isle of Sgàil :) Sometimes good games give the opportunity to listen wonderful music
That was quite a party wasnt it.
You've just come from the party too? Say, did you also see an intimidating bald man who was in a hurry?
Exactly what I was thinking
End of 2nd movement so beautiful, too ..
Debussy's, Poulenc's Cello Sonata and this one are my favourites!
me trying to sight read this without my cello: rachmaninoff calm down with changing the clefs so much 👁👄👁
Muchas gracias por haber subido esta bella obra que combina la expresividad con la fluidez melódica de su autor. Podría decirse que es un elegante autor romático cntemporáneo.
De las más maravillosas joyas de la música, y la pasión infinita de estos grandes interpretes, Bravo! Thank's a lot! beautyful sharing.
+Franyer Albornoz I'm happy you like it :)
“Dude he wrote a cello sonata but not a violin sonata.” -Eddy Chen 2020
Which video?
Twoset sight-reading cello music
Twosetters comment section!!!
He has two pieces for violin and piano that are interesting. I performed one of them years ago.
3:15-3:25 kind of reminds me of rach's 2nd concerto.
The main theme form the movie Prometheus, suspiciously "look" similar to the 3rd movement here: 26:13
Román Javier Giordano very suspicious
I went to the comments thinking "please let there be comments about how the cello takes back seat to the piano so I know I'm not the only one thinking that." I was not disappointed.
No song can capture the sadness of the 20th Century like this one.
Song? It's a cello sonata and no-one's singing!
*Just* heard this on my classical radio channel. ❤😊😁
19:04 "andante" I love.
the melody of the first movement is so amazing i dont know why
We did not deserve Rachmaninoff, yet here he is.
Lol. It is absolutely hilarious that anyone is referring to this as a "cello sonata." This is Rachmaninoff's "Piano sonata in G minor with some Cello you occasionally hear in the background., possibly also playing in G minor but we really can't tell."
I love this sonata. I could wish for a more beautiful tone form the piano in phrasing that divine second subject in the first movement.
23:24-24:22 seems heavily inspired by Chopin's 2nd Nouvelle Etude
The modulation at 24:02 really confirms it imo
dont tell the soviets, he might get the gulag
Rach said that this sonata is for cello and piano, meaning that both instruments have equal roles.
It is very very well played, don't get me wrong. I could not do it at this very interesting tempo myself. But I find that too many times, the cello is a little flat, but even more seriously not in synch with the piano. It is hearable in the second movement. This changes the harmonies completely, making it sound like the cello part is an appoggiatura most of the time every time the "lyrical theme" comes on. But hey, it it beautifully played and all of this might also be interpretation choices. Just my opinion.
14:47 No word describes it.
You just described it :)
What a beautiful piano sonata, but why does it have a cello?
Why does this video have your comment ?
@@Dylonely_9274doe jij ClSh Royale spelen?
It's really a piano concerto with a little cello accompaniment.
He really knew how to exploit the instrument, didn't he? How beautiful
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When I gave the music to my collaborative pianist, she looked horrified. I must say she was a beast and the mountains of respect I had for her doubled.
In my opinion it's sad that the 2nd piano concerto, released the same year, got far more attention than this piece. This sonata has so many beautiful melodies.
Yh, the cello sonata is so underrated but tbh pretty much anything would go relatively unnoticed compared up to the 2nd piano concerto
Jack Tucker Brown I love the 2nd PC too, but I've come to love this piece even more!
it is great :) the 3rd movt...
Granted that it is trully an underrated extremelly beautiful piece but PC 2 is one of the most haunting and enchanting piece of clasical music ever. For many the best piano concerto ever composed, no less. Melody is no doubt one of the outstanding characteristic of Russian classical music. S Rachmaninov is no exception. Nando dal Venezuela.
The 2nd concerto is easier to play. This thing is a monster.
I don't understand...
"Rachmaninov disliked calling this work a cello sonata because he thought the two instruments were equal. Because of this, it is often referred to as Sonata in G minor for Cello and Piano." You wrote that in the description and even though titled the video: "Sergei Rachmaninov - CELLO SONATA in G minor"
It IS a cello sonata, by definition... the point is that it is sometimes referred to as a sonata for 'cello and piano' as per Rachnaninoff's preferences.
Usually though, a sonata written for cello and piano is simply called a 'Cello sonata'. As a pianist... yeah I can't help but think that is a little bit unfair...
i would've thought music school would've gotten me to know this piece before something like hitman 2. but no regrets, it's an amazing piece either way
I just hang around in the Isle of Sgail courtyard listening to this.
Mr. Fish same. it’s an amazing piece
This was wonderful! Thanks for the upload.
Awesome performance!! Thanks a lot for sharing olla-vogala ^^
12:50 (For those on mobile)
10:05 - 10:45 enough to make me cry
magnifica versión ,muchas gracias a los interpretes "quienes sean"
+Santiago Peñate Fleitas. Performers: Natalia Gutman (cello), Elisso Virsaladze (piano) dos grandes de la música.
dude this is harder for the pianist LUL
It wouldn't be Rachmaninov if it wasn't.
true LULW
@@APerson4889-g5f about to say the same thing.
See: every cello sonata ever written.... Beethoven, Chopin, Mendelssohn, Brahms, etc. And I’m a cellist. Treat your piano player very kindly. Wash their feet, so to speak.
Same thing with Chopin's Cello Sonata. Guess thats what happens when a pianist writes a cello sonata lol
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WHAT IF... Allegro scherzando in Cm were ideas he had for the piano concerto 2 but at the end he saved them for this cello sonata? :o
Not cello sonata but sonata for Pianoforte and violoncello. Note the order of the instruments with the piano placed first in the title followed by the cello. It’s a duo sonata with the piano part being of central importance. The piano part is highly virtuosic. Not meant to be mistakenly construed as an accompaniment.
The andante is breathtakingly beautiful.
The definition of Beautiful.
Hermosa!! Música angelical, música de Dios! Bellísima
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