Doing a 1911 Trigger Job The GTT Way
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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Just a (sort of) quick video detailing how I do a trigger job on a 1911. My way isn't necessarily the best way, but it's the way I was trained, and the way I've been doing it for years.
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Your hand drawn diagram at the beginning of this video is the most informative explanation I’ve seen. Well done sir!
Your explanation at the whiteboard really demystified the 1911 trigger job for me - thanks. As you said, it's not worth investing the time and expense of buying the tools and developing the techniques for a single trigger job, but it was really helpful to see how it's done.
I'm sad that you are not here to make videos anymore, you seem like such a good guy and I feel bad that you had to go through something that made you feel like it wasn't worth it to stay around. rip I will continue to watch your vids in your memory
I'm sorry to hear he isn't here anymore. I saw this video years ago and just ran across it again. Maybe someone can post his vids on other video sites like full30, Rumble etc. I would hate to see this taken down someday and others not be educated. It helped me a lot when I was new like others. I hate to even ask what happened, but maybe things will get better if it was a change of heart he had.
@guntorturetests I just followed this step by step. i didnt have everything you do, just a single stone and some basic tools, but wow. crisp, predictable, and lighter. being my first time I didnt want to get too aggressive, so havent touched the sear spring at all yet. THANK YOU SIR!
The purpose of your video is to teach something and I am happy to say I learned something.
Thanks for taking the time.
Sadly this is close up work so the whiteboard was the best part for me, either way, well done!
Not meaning to nitpick, but the mechanical engineer in me can't let it go. 21 "hundredths of an inch" = .21 or almost 1/4". I think you meant 21 thousandths, or .021. Good video though, thanks for posting it.
"Piss up a rope" must be the greatest comment ever to a hater.
+Bob DeFalco
My dad used to say "Go piss up a rope!" I love it.
Ever heard that song by Ween? Its my go to karaoke song lol! Enjoy": ua-cam.com/video/w7M3EEHYkJ0/v-deo.html
two years ago i watched this, but never did the trigger job till today. i used a diamond file and my hands and eyes. just used lots of patience and brain power, and it came out safe and i got rid of the creep.
Just got into 1911s and found your channel. You're a funny guy and your beard is a monument to grizzled manhood. Keep it up brother!
Gone but not forgotten.....R.I.P.
This guy is dead? How did he die?
I just did this to a RIA 1911 that had a stiff trigger pull. I don't have a trigger pull gauge so I do not know what the poundage was or is but it is a HUGE improvement. Thank You!
subscribed for "that is not important to this discussion" brilliant
you know you've got a good teacher when they know to eliminate useless crap from the conversation
Thanks for the help. Very good video as always. I am glad there are a few good gunsmiths on UA-cam that are willing to share their knowledge with the rest of us.
The disconnector needs tuning as well. Polishing the disconnector surface that mates with the trigger bow and the surface that mates with the sear spring makes a big difference. Also the edge of the sear spring center leg that rides on the disconnector ramp... round that off slightly and polish. This makes the disconnector run up and down smoothly and contributes to trigger smoothness... and is easy to do.
Excellent Video! You have always been a No Nonsense stand up Guy. Respect and blessings too you. Thanks for the information.
Semper Fi
I like the Ed Brown jig, it's OK. However, I like the Power Custom jig if your going to do gunsmithing everyday. Your might wish to mention that the sear and hammer holes in each frame can be different. You should instead of using the 10-8 block, use the pins in the frame of the pistol being worked on. I've found over 50 years of working on them the sear and hammer holes can be a few thousands in distance different. Especially on less exspenive 1911's. I caution using the center leaf. I usually set these at 2.5 lbs and use the sear leaf to adjust for a lighter trigger. Best of luck, sir.
+Vernon Harrison Agree with what you said regarding disparities among 1911 / 2011 frames. Using the holes on the actual gun is best. Also agree with you on the sear leaf.
Thank you for this. This was by far the best explanation of how to do a trigger job the right way
Aight rich,I like the honesty,I take mine to a smith because I prefer the honesty and im only buying 1 1911 thanx again
Good, solid down to earth info. Love your sense of humor and no BS manner! Thanks.
Jim Shellhamer i
The same way I was taught to do trigger work. I like to use the tri glide springs on mine, can keep a little more spring pressure to keep hammer from following. Great video!!
Completely agree nothing better than 1911 great video
Thank you for the explanation. I have a 1911 that I'd like to do the trigger job on, but didn't know where to begin.... Also, "Piss up a rope"... That's a keeper... Letting you know now that I am going to use that line.... Repeatedly!!
The whiteboard was great. Thank-you.
"Save your nerd rage." LOL, I'm stealing that line. Great video.
I use a Powers jig, but I had a machinist friend square it . I also use the outside pins for checking engagement. Before you start it's nice to have a spare sear just in case.
Thanks, I found your video very informative. My 1911 double fired the other week and i left it in to a gunsmith. Since getting it back the trigger is really heavy.
I don't have the tools nor experience to do it myself but at least after watching your video I have a better idea why the trigger isn't as good.
Excellent video. Understanding the angles is the best explanation of doing a trigger job. Thank you very much.
I haven’t looked at other videos on this subject but I think your explanation and visuals of do and don’t on a trigger are excellent . 👍👍
Excellent video, This is an important mod, on a 1911, to improve functionality.
love the KISS method you use.....simple and to the point. Thanks
I So Respect your No BS approach to this , You weed out the candy asses ! Look forward to sending you so 1911 ,I just got a 10mm rock island.
I'm not planning on doing a trigger job ,but I am going to have one done in the near future ,I feel better knowing what specs and how it is done to make sure I get what I want out of it.Good video answered all my case without the BS ,good work.
BEFORE you sharpen and square the hammer notch you need to set the .020" shim across the large flat on the hammer, in contact with the hooks. If the hooks rise above the shim a little that is okay. But if the hooks are below the shim you will have to increase the depth of the hooks by removing material from the flats.
The drawing you label as "unsafe" is the correct hammer/sear engagement. Your "Neutral" engagements will result in hard, creepy trigger pulls. The sear and hammer rotate on pins. There is no way for the sear nose to clear the hammer hooks with your "neutral" engagement without having to rotate the hammer back!
Great video, best explanation ad demonstration of a trigger job I have seen.
Lol.... I have thousands of dollars in machining tools, and completely understand the concept of less contact area = less friction, but thank you for giving me some insight before I jump into this... Never took one apart before... They shoot nice though.
If I had a dollar for every time this dude says "OK", I'd go out and buy a NIghthawk.
The spring in the middle accuates the disconnector. The disconnector stops the slide i believe by activating the firing pin block to keep it from firing continually. I cant say for sure but I think that is how it functions and thusly why he said dont bend it to far.
i didn't realize there was such a thing as "the only 1911 you'll ever buy" lol. great vid!
The S.I.G. P210 (a real one, made in Switzerland) has a much better trigger than the 1911. Excellent explanation of sear angles.
Well I just learned a lot about 1911 triggers. Thank you very much.
Simple, clear and understandable as it should be. Thank you.
You got some stones, man!
Perfectly explained . he means .020 -.021 Other than saying that a little goofy, this is exactly how I was taught also.
Nice ring on your right hand there Brother!
I have a 1911 that I had for a long time ,it started to double. I would have left it that way if I new it wouldn’t go full auto but I didn’t want to take the chance.
Drill 2 shallow holes in rear sight widen notch to center w/ needle file paint holes & front sight w/ white & urathane
Those optivisors are a sure fire way to destroy what vision you have left
I've saved this Video as a Reference. Thank you much for making it.
I believe this gent is unfortunately deceased now
This is the second video I seen that demonstrates doing a trigger job on a 1911. Both of the videos use a white background, which is fine for making the making dark objects stand out, but you lose the detail, because the camera is responding to the bright background. I'm not an expert on camera work, but there must be a better way to do this so that you can show the detail of the small black gun parts. However, thanks for sharing your expertise.
very good vid. I learned a lot about my 1911s and there trigger operations. thanks
Like that Wilson Combat Hat, also have one & also a 1911 shooter. Great video.
Thanks for the info, always heard about stoning the parts but didn't have a clue what parts or how to get it done. A smith has always done my 1911 triggers and not always the best results.
Nice video. I hate when these videos get drawn out over non important jibberish....this guy rocks!
Nope, just the tension from the three finger spring inside the mainspring housing pressing on the trigger. You just have to bend it by hand until you get the desired "trigger pull weight".
The shim thickness is 0.02 inches, which is twenty thousandths of an inch or two one hundredths of an inch, not twenty one-hundredths. Twenty one-hundredths is one fifth of an inch, or 0.2 inches.
Thank you sir for the education & taking the time to share it when you don't have to. This was a great video as are all your videos please keep up the great work it is appreciated more than you know god bless & god speed
Just a comment ... the SA trigger on a S&W revolver is pretty darn nice too! But I agree, the 1911 has the best semi-auto trigger.
hahaha great vid. "Here's a drawing of the sear and hammer.....AND IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY..."
Thanks, very informative. I'll leave it to the professionals.
I understand that A little is better than to much at once. Nibble at it until you had enough an see how close you are to what you can get at .
you had me at "piss up a rope" !!! great video
Bend the hammer spring a bit and take up the slack with an adjustable trigger. Perfect 1lbs pull on any 1911.
Polish all moving parts with 800 grit wood dowel w5/8 & 100 grit barrel rear seat postion break lug rear seat barrel top angle
Very nicely done, well shot and well explained. I feel like I learned it well enough to try it if I had the tools. Video instruction is not easy. You're a natural teacher. Thank you!
thanks for this video, i do everything myself, and it's very helpful to get these advanced tips
Excellent video. Learned tons. Thank you for posting.
Center tine on the Sear Spring? That is the disconnector portion, the left tine sets sear tension.
your awesome, very direct and i like the way you explain things (you make it easy-ish) well done
This guy is dead!! R.I.P....Rich!
+wood2hoz4 WHAT????? NOOOOOO!!!
thx buddy , good explanation, on that tricky job ......
Hey, I'm sure that this video would have been really great but the lack of close ups make it difficult to see and understand what is going on.
I agree.
Though I really appreciate the video and I also appreciate the distinction you make between a combat tune versus a Target tune I personally wouldn't want a trigger that was less than 4 lb. Four to five seems to be a sweet spot for me ( I'm a revolver CD shooter too). Like the other person said the lack of close-ups and poor lighting with the reflection off of your white desk made a lot of the images so dark it was difficult to see what you are talking about. If I hadn't had several dozen hours looking at videos like this I think I would have been lost. Your diagrams were exceptionally valuable despite the fact you thought that the artwork wasn't perfect. It really did work, and it added a little bit more to my visual understanding of how the sear interacts with the hammer.
When stoning any of the parts, does the stone move back AND forth against the surface or is it supposed to only go in one direction? Or does it matter?
Robert Renstrom, best is if you are not into gunsmithing, Just bring your Gun to a reliable gunsmith to modify n repair your trigger.
BONG D I disagree. I’m not a gunsmith and I work on my 1911. It took a while to learn all the tricks but it’s not rocket science. It is totally achievable if you are somewhat mechanically inclined.
Man I know what you are talking about...but I don't need all the stuff you got that's overkill...but I still gave ya a 👍.....
Excellent video.
Saying the 1911 has the best trigger in the world is really american way of seeing things.
I would argue the Sig P210 Nehausen is the best trigger in the world. It does not rely on friction, the trigger on those guns are MAGICAL.
And like the 1911 a SAO..
VERY informative! Thanks a lot for the info!
Thank you this video was very helpful.
Great video. Try the present arms 1911 armorer kit. I can't say enough good things about their products
in the first 1:50 I decided this guy was awesome.
just before you went off on your drawing I was thinking fuck yeah now I get how the trigger opperates. I'm not ass kissing but I am learning thanks.
Great video, been kicking around the idea of getting into gun smithing. Was thinking about getting a 1911 to build/work on/figure shit out with.
Freaking outstanding video my man
Great video, instructive and opinionated! Thanks man
Great job on the Videos! Thanks for sharing them!!
Yeah, I thought the vid was good, informative. Thanks brother.
I would agree that the 1911 design is fascinating. Even more fascinating when you consider JMB didn't have CAD or even a slide rule! How did he think of that! How did he get it right? Friggin amazing
I fucking love this intro song, lol, i had my dad do the trigger on mine it's about 2.5lbs or so, with a little bit of slack, so it feels like a two-stage, which is more what i'm accustomed to from shooting a shit ton of old and new military rifles, even though it's a rock island i can shoot a 1 inch group at 10 yards.
Great videos, man! Could you do one showing how to align the back of a 1911 slide with the back of the frame so everything is flush when the slide is closed? So basically where the beginning of the rail is lined up with the back of the slide. Is that doable by someone with moderate tool skills? Thanks!
Weld & stone barrel extension till clicks into lockup
Very informative, I like the technique easy to follow!
Love this vid you take all the nonsense out of it
Great job.
Great video. If you don't want to change the angle of the sear/hammer relationship. Can you get some improvement by just installing a spring kit and removing burrs?
"Piss up a rope"...this guy is hilarious! Thanks for the vid GTT.
You've never heard that line before? Have you been freeze dried or doin' hard time?
That jonny glock guy is supposed to be making 1911 triggers for the glock. Have you tried one of those yet?
Thank you for sharing this.
great vid brother.
nice for some of those mil spec guns out there now.
His second job is in an Oak Ridge Boys cover band.
@CH33ZGR4T3R Got you, no retention is required. The statute states that the holster must be attached to the shoulder or belt. My interpretation is that since it attaches mainly to your leg, no you cannot. I know it still attracted to a belt but it is called a "leg holster". Check out Oklahoma Open Carry Association on Facebook. We have tons of info like this on the page.
Really good video, a lot of good info.
You were taught the incorrect hammer sear engagement. John Browning engagement is the correct engagement.
Good work