Why you’re having trouble getting your hand under the bowling ball

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  • @jamespark808
    @jamespark808 Рік тому +47

    This is gold. Such a small detail, but can make a huge impact. GOLD!

    • @mariansowinski8967
      @mariansowinski8967 Рік тому +2

      I agree!!!

    • @NightOwlYT.
      @NightOwlYT. 2 місяці тому

      Yeah my school coach has been telling me not to force the ball but this really helps explain why

  • @lonestarpatriot876
    @lonestarpatriot876 5 місяців тому +3

    I use 15 lbs. dumbbells at home to practice, allowing my swing to fall freely. This has helped me greatly to not only tune into what that feels like but also to help me program my neuro pathways to execute that movement each and every time without having to think about it. Thank you for all of the content. Your channel is helping me to become a better bowler.

  • @senseishun4453
    @senseishun4453 Рік тому +19

    Thanks for the advice! Have been struggling with this for years. I can do it in no step and 1 step drills but full approach it feels impossible. Will try next practice session.

    • @die7fox
      @die7fox Рік тому +5

      That's where I am. When I isolate the feeling in a drill, I can do it all day. Full approach? Totally falls apart. Very frustrating.

    • @TheVlad1616
      @TheVlad1616 Рік тому +1

      @@die7foxI feel you there… so frustrating

    • @senseishun4453
      @senseishun4453 Рік тому

      @@die7fox yeah practiced a bit today and still no luck, my approach is just where i cannot stay under or behind the ball

  • @Bubsdaddy
    @Bubsdaddy 12 днів тому

    One of your best instructional videos ever JR !! :)

  • @Archk1
    @Archk1 Рік тому +1

    One of the BEST coaches in the game! I have attended many PBA tournaments, both national and regional, and one of my very favorite victories of all was watching JR when a regional at Pinheads and his son was with him having the time of his life. It was a great day! Thank you JR for sharing this video as once again you are absolutely correct.

  • @marcus5803
    @marcus5803 Рік тому +5

    So stay low using your knees and not your back 🤯you sir are the best!!!!

  • @mr.tuckers2848
    @mr.tuckers2848 Рік тому +4

    Thanks JR for this great tip. Body language really makes a big difference. I started out with a 14lb ball as recommended by the shop but I thought the ball was too heavy for my hand which I thought was the reason why I couldn't get hand under ball so I ended-up getting a 2nd 12lb ball. Allowing the ball to fall during the swing allows the momentum of the ball and your hand to get back in position rather than to pull it down and then losing control. Reminds me of the pirate ship ride- once the boat levels out of it's pendulum swing, it's perfectly parallel back to the ground. Makes perfectly sense!
    I will try this tonight along with focusing to keep my upper body upright without any lean as well as allowing swing path of ball to be in line with my head. I think this will also fix my tendencies of my arm to go cross-body on release which I think I may also be releasing the ball too late. Too many parts/pieces to put together but after 3 months of bowling it's all starting to make sense now. I do have the yo-yo release now but my rev-rate is so slow. Another problem to fix another time.

    • @joeyscooking
      @joeyscooking Місяць тому

      You remember how it went ? I’m about to try this

  • @frankformella6834
    @frankformella6834 Рік тому +2

    Thanks again let fall and tilt hmmm nice can’t wait til practice

  • @Anthony-um5og
    @Anthony-um5og 9 місяців тому

    Thanks JR, I’ve been watching you for sometime now. Love the tips and lessons and reviews. I’m all the way in Australia. Might send you one of my videos to get some pointers.

  • @Silent_Slacker
    @Silent_Slacker Місяць тому

    Great video thank you. This explains a lot for me

  • @DMsReptiles
    @DMsReptiles Рік тому +1

    Omg this is perfect. I just looked at one of my videos and my tilting forward is exactly what I'm doing. Thank you so much for this quick video

  • @butchcoolidge3261
    @butchcoolidge3261 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for your input and advice. I’ll definitely look at what I’m doing, and remember what you said the next time I’m in league.

  • @psycheeight082
    @psycheeight082 Рік тому +1

    That’s why I love the foul line or one step drill… it’s hard to pull down or bend over on your shot.

  • @ohnooooooooooooooo
    @ohnooooooooooooooo Рік тому

    I'm only just trying out hooking the ball and can't get it to work one handed, but I'm absolutely pulling the ball down with my swing like you say, and hadn't even considered letting it drop and to get under/behind the ball like that.. such a simple tip that could really change everything

  • @CharlesBiddlecom-hs1kn
    @CharlesBiddlecom-hs1kn 4 місяці тому

    JR is the best. Just turned 80 with a 175 avg. in 2 leagues. Still have mechanical problems and may try the virtual lessons. Thanks!

  • @bukweet6
    @bukweet6 9 місяців тому

    Fantastic explanation of hand position... thank you!!

  • @jaybillups2063
    @jaybillups2063 Рік тому +3

    Thanks. I was having this issue today and couldn’t figure it out. I’ll give your advice a try tomorrow 🎉

  • @chasingpixels5325
    @chasingpixels5325 2 місяці тому

    You said “spine tilt” and my mind flashed to every time I’ve almost fallen onto the lane.
    This is the exact video I needed 😭😭 thank you so much! I will work more on this today!

  • @D3AThCAl2DS
    @D3AThCAl2DS 5 місяців тому

    yep I tried getting rid of my slouch and bend at the waist same issue

  • @lootachris1877
    @lootachris1877 8 місяців тому

    I knew I should’ve asked you for advice when I was bowling one set of lanes over from you on Saturday in Ionia. I’ve always struggled getting under the ball and I know this will change my game as soon as I can pick it up. Thank you!

  • @christophererenberg1963
    @christophererenberg1963 Рік тому

    Thanks JR I'm a 2 hander and just recently decided that I wanted to try 1 handed bowling. Took an idol cosmos and plugged/drilled it with what my pso said was a standard fingertip layout. I can't get the ball to hook for the life of me.

  • @cliftonsmith9547
    @cliftonsmith9547 Рік тому

    This helped me tremendously I'm bowling my first season in league we are 15 weeks in and this pass Monday at league I bowled my new personal best I got a 600 scratch and I know there's plenty of room for improvement but it felt good knowing I'm on the right track and improving along the way. Thanks for these videos.

  • @Thumper1968
    @Thumper1968 11 місяців тому

    This made a massive difference for me. Thank you!

  • @AverageLeagueHack
    @AverageLeagueHack Рік тому +1

    It's either your timing or your timing or possibly your timing. When your rhythm is correct everything else gets soooooo much easier.

  • @derronsanchez391
    @derronsanchez391 5 місяців тому +1

    Yes!!! Thank you sir!!!

  • @stevekeller3643
    @stevekeller3643 Рік тому +1

    Highlighted a number of my faults in the video- thanks for the affirmation.
    A question- took a lesson a couple of years ago from USBC silver who had me uncock my hand at address (so fingers below the forearm line) but I don’t know what it was supposed to accomplish - maybe help stay behind it on the push away ?
    Have tried unsuccessfully to touch base with him again.
    Any idea what that move might do ?
    I am bowling better this year.
    Thanks !

  • @ronaldvanengen1887
    @ronaldvanengen1887 Рік тому +1

    Shut down for the Day
    Dinner on the way!!
    I'm use that!!❤😊

  • @squidly2112
    @squidly2112 Рік тому

    Totally makes sense! .. Thanks JR !! .. this is something probably not often thought about. Thank you and Happy Holidays !!!

  •  10 місяців тому

    Thank you very much appreciated. Excellent teacher

  • @rmarqu2
    @rmarqu2 11 місяців тому

    I’ve been looking for reasons that I can’t get under the ball for YEARS… this is the first time hearing this so I will definitely work this into my game 🤘🏼

  • @billfleming8281
    @billfleming8281 Рік тому +1

    Excellent advice , I’ve been struggling the past few weeks and felt myself coming up ( and my ball reaction has been atrocious ) . I think you solved my issue JR , thank you !

  • @thomasworrilow4228
    @thomasworrilow4228 Рік тому +1

    It was the last detail I feel hit home for me. Because I've notice, that as a lefty, the more I move right with my feet my body instinctually leans a little more forward which I feel allows me to get around it a little easier.

  • @RockyPorco
    @RockyPorco Рік тому

    Going to use this advice tonight at league

  • @jaleelbrewer1586
    @jaleelbrewer1586 Рік тому

    Thanks for this video thought these were all my issues but after buying the TNT Infused the other day, I've come to see that I need bigger inserts. A lot easier with my fingers further into the holes!

  • @fastysmith6000
    @fastysmith6000 Рік тому

    Full roller help!!!! Love

  • @jorgenkarls
    @jorgenkarls 10 місяців тому

    I have to practice this. I have difficulty getting my hand under the ball and getting a nice curve.

  • @NewVisionLCS
    @NewVisionLCS Рік тому

    Excellent example! Thank you for posting this!

  • @brianwaterman8185
    @brianwaterman8185 Рік тому

    Thanks so much for this! Looking forward to working on it!

  • @MichaelRei99
    @MichaelRei99 11 місяців тому

    I very much like your videos. I am going to have to try some of your tips and see if it helps. Then I may consider joining your group.

  • @bigd8812
    @bigd8812 9 місяців тому

    Straight and to the point!!! I like it!!

  • @pepesbesfren3779
    @pepesbesfren3779 8 місяців тому

    I’ve been searching for this exact advice for weeks. Then I stop searching for it and you show up on my feed. 😂 thanks lad. I’m gonna go out tonight and try that.

  • @benw8634
    @benw8634 9 місяців тому

    I am going to try this next time I practice. After watching this I now see why I was having issues last time I played. I kept bending my back over slightly during my release 🤦‍♂️

  • @jonathanbatchelor5032
    @jonathanbatchelor5032 Рік тому

    Damn…. I think I have this exact problem. (Amongst many other ones also)( lean forward to far; elbow comes around the ball) thanks for the tips!!

  • @mitchellgross6982
    @mitchellgross6982 9 місяців тому

    Excellent advice. Thanks!

  • @TurboVinny617
    @TurboVinny617 Рік тому

    this is what i needed.. Thanks you!!!!

  • @JoeBowler-r9n
    @JoeBowler-r9n Рік тому

    Thankyou Mr. Raymond for the Great Bowling Tips. 👍👍

  • @thebigeasy8609
    @thebigeasy8609 Рік тому

    Good stuff JR. Thank you very much.

  • @jesus127681
    @jesus127681 13 днів тому

    did not realize letting the ball fall instead of forcing it made such a big difference. will keep in mind next time i bowl

  • @mavericksnider1833
    @mavericksnider1833 Рік тому

    This is great info I didnt realize that being more upright would do that. I got a pretty high swing that's very free but I know I have always had a fair amount of forward spine tilt. This is something I will try this weekend shout out from hartland

  • @jameslickey9459
    @jameslickey9459 Рік тому

    Glad you made a video about this. Also that black widow 2.0 is gonna take a bit to get used to but I love it!

  • @timothyoliver2657
    @timothyoliver2657 Рік тому

    Thank you JR for another helpful video

  • @dbtime4taco50
    @dbtime4taco50 3 місяці тому

    What do you think about the sublime bowling ball looking for one with strong back end

  • @rsplatinum
    @rsplatinum 11 місяців тому

    Awesome video!! Thank you!

  • @jonathanthomas8574
    @jonathanthomas8574 Рік тому

    Thank you

  • @samsjm11
    @samsjm11 Рік тому

    Great advise. Appreciate it!

  • @OutdoorMishaps
    @OutdoorMishaps 11 місяців тому

    What about spmeone loke wes mallott? To me it looks like hes coming around the side of rhe ball sometimes...

  • @joehoenig7596
    @joehoenig7596 4 місяці тому

    JR--I wear a wrist support, which tends to force my hand around the ball. Do you have any suggestions that can help me stay behind the ball while still wearing the support?
    Thank you

  • @jeremymilam3578
    @jeremymilam3578 Рік тому

    What advice would you have for a palm bowler like me?

  • @spencehayashi2772
    @spencehayashi2772 8 місяців тому

    JR, i am recovering from back and surgeries and having to bowl with a 1 step approach. I try to stay behind and under the ball but could use some help to improve. Can you help me with this issue?

  • @chancepillsbury9702
    @chancepillsbury9702 10 місяців тому

    What if you’ve had your labrum, rotator cuff, clavicle and bicep tendon surgery? I can turn my wrist to the inside but not more than maybe 1”. How can I still keep my hand inside?

  • @jmerriman02
    @jmerriman02 8 місяців тому

    How far are you from Lotus Lake? Have family in Waterford

  • @SPEED_BUMP248
    @SPEED_BUMP248 11 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @123ikbenerni
    @123ikbenerni 2 місяці тому

    Been working on staying under the ball and good so far but when i add the movement to direct the revs the right way i release it so bad and very inconsistent. Sometimes i can get it right and then i have a beautiful strike but VERY inconsistent. Any tips?

  • @Sonia-gp8no
    @Sonia-gp8no Рік тому

    Thats totally my problem😔

  • @vince1207
    @vince1207 Рік тому

    What you think about wrist support to help stay under the ball? Thank you!

  • @ramil617
    @ramil617 4 місяці тому

    How can I contact you? Im new in bowling and im having the exact problem

  • @jyee2217
    @jyee2217 Рік тому

    Nice tip,,,danke!

  • @Dainslaif
    @Dainslaif 9 місяців тому

    Why does spine tilt make a difference? Your hand is on top of the ball when it's 45 degrees behind you, but that should be true even if you're upright. What matters is only at the bottom of the swing, right?

  • @CaliHunnid
    @CaliHunnid 9 місяців тому

    Damn I watch this video 5 times now I get why I stay on top of the ball it’s my tilt and not bending with the knee and lowering my waist

  • @fuzzytattoo
    @fuzzytattoo 11 місяців тому

    I can always feel this thanks to my friend/coach. Will always remember his words of wisdom whenever I leaned too far forward "Fuzzy, get your tits off the lane!" 😂

  • @billprisco3725
    @billprisco3725 7 місяців тому

    💡 light bulb !! Thank you

  • @scottythompson940
    @scottythompson940 Рік тому +2

    Cool video talk tech bowling bowling Jr Raymond

  • @pfightingpolish
    @pfightingpolish 10 місяців тому

    Me 20 years ago: "I want to be a better swing dancer."
    My teachers when I was learning how to swing dance: "You need to bend your knees more, it looks better in the dance."
    Me: "I racked my knees taking all kinds of ground balls playing baseball as a teen and they don't bend easily anymore."
    Me now: "Bowling seems like a nice, low-impact sport I can do into old age. But I can't seem to master getting a lot of hook."
    This video: "You need to bend your knees more to get more hook."
    Me: "Dammit."

  • @MTSpade
    @MTSpade 7 місяців тому

    Sound seems off

  • @bowlingdj300
    @bowlingdj300 Рік тому

    good stuff here, sadly the dungeons I bowl at hook at your toe and getting more under it is not the answer, still having this in your bag of tricks is a good idea when you hit some oil.

  • @badbadbowling101
    @badbadbowling101 Рік тому

    Hey what mic are you using?

  • @mtrithart
    @mtrithart Рік тому

    The key to changing is to record yourself on video.

  • @goobytron2888
    @goobytron2888 Рік тому

    It’s never what you think. We always tend to think it’s strength.

  • @brendonwages844
    @brendonwages844 8 місяців тому

    I like rhis one to get under the ball this is easy and i know you all going to laugh but its ok in not ever going to chang this i use my pinky finger you do this you'll have a good grip of your ball and more controll of your throwing i done this 50 years like i said I'll never will change rhis

  • @leechaney3703
    @leechaney3703 Рік тому

    Roll Tide!!!

  • @Smuna-d2h
    @Smuna-d2h 10 місяців тому

    hmmm. AJ johnson and darren tang and byron smith might be doing it wrong for so long. Marshall H might be wrong too?. You can lean as much as you want but you can't rotate the shoulder to the line. Please send this link to Simonsen, verper and packy. they're all wrong... careful how you heed advice.

    • @Tenpindoctors
      @Tenpindoctors  10 місяців тому

      You’re joking right? Might consider paying better attention

  • @CliftonDon74
    @CliftonDon74 Рік тому

    Thanks for the tip JR! I drop the ball from the top of my swing. I have no issues with keeping my hand under the ball. My 2 cents for folks having this issue... use a lighter ball OR get to the gym and strengthen your arm from shoulder to wrist. Folks who think they can perform optimally w/o working out are mistaken. All the guys on tour are gym rats.

  • @garyrood3466
    @garyrood3466 Рік тому

    77 and can't bend down much