@@darkawakening01 everyone with a decent education in the United States is very well aware that the vast majority of Europeans are fluent in English, and other languages.
@@abc64pan That voice was exactly similiar to Hitler. Hitler's voice was as deep as Darth Vaders. Theres a recording of his voice, its uploaded in UA-cam. You can try to look it up.
There was probably a lot of hushed snickering and pantomiming because they were putting on a fake show, knowing they were all escaping to South America and faking Hitler’s death.
“Luke, did I ever tell you about Felix Steiner? He was an ss General during the Second World War. He had one job, to launch a counter attack to break the Soviet encirclement of Berlin. Instead he decided to call in and just say he wouldn’t. Didn’t even have the courage to tell me face to face. Really sent me into a rage when I learned, told everyone I was going to eat a gun. And he was a good friend.”
@@gordusmaximus4990 Watch the final scene of "The Bunker". 80s made for TV film. Anthony Hopkins has ALL of the gestures of Hitler making one of his speeches. UA-cam used to have it but was removed because "it violates our policy on hate speech". So, someone posted the whole film!
They're both based on the same account. The outburst seems to have actually happened. "A lot of it was sourced from the survivors, a few of whom are depicted in the movie. Traudl Junge (Hitler's secretary) being a major source."
I'd just quietly leave the meeting and listen to some music. He can lock the doors behind him in a physical meeting, but even if he succeeds in locking me into that zoom meeting, I can just turn the volume down and minimise the screen, then play minesweeper or solitaire. Nothing he said was particularly constructive or accurate or worth listening to anyway, so I'll just ask for the key points from others after the meeting.
People wondering if Downfall was a remake of this. Read the SS transcripts, this is slightly more accurate in what Hitler said, but I think the actor was better in the German film.
I wonder if its possible that in real life Hitler did no lose his temper and started ranting but simply cried. Then when realising this will end up in the history books he made his close associates promise they will state that he started ranting like a lunatic. Hitler was image councious a sad Hitler would tarnish his postwar image a lot more than an enraged one. At the same time all the guys close to him were commited nazis. Is it possible they intentionally gave a false report about Hitler afterwards to maintain his mythical larger than life image? Hitler was aware of the historical importance of his final hours is it possible he intentionally tailored it in such a way as to maintain his tough guy myth?🤔 Ultimately we have no recording of this just accounts and records but those can be doctored.
@@florinivan6907 Nah, imagine that you’ve just been told that everything you’ve ever done or achieved is quickly being undone by those around you, and that you know there’s no way out. You would be angry and rant too. Then there would be a sadness that overcomes it afterwards when you realize that everything is futile and simply are done.
While the transcripts were closer to this portrayal.. I think Ganz was going for the mental collapse that Hitler was going through.. this portrayal seemed more controlled than what I imagined Hitler was going through... Ganz nailed that portion of it
- My Fuhrer! This is historical moment! - I know, we are going to make an ultimate internet meme, which would be re-played for centuries in different versions!
I actually had that happen in a game of Clone Wars Risk. Half the clones refused Order 66, and they instead stayed loyal to their Jedi commanders. They then staged a massive attack on Coruscant with all their fleets and clone armies to dislodge Palpatine from the throne, and won the day. That version of the Clone Wars ended with a civil war in the Clone Army where the Jedi-led clones won, and Palpatine was decapitated by the Jedi in front of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant after a show trial where he was found guilty of a laundry-list of crimes.
In the early 70s, there was still a tendency to overplay Hitler to the point at which it approached caricature. Guinness's portrayal here was a classic interpretation, but lacks the sense of immersion that Ganz brings nearly 30 years later. It's how what we learn about a historical figure changes how that person is portrayed - in _Downfall_ , Hitler is slouched, his left arm and hand withered and trembing as he removes his glasses in initial reaction to the news about Steiner. In that one gesture from a frail man, we see how neither time nor circumstance was going to acknowledge his greatness, but we still fear the last burst of rage and charisma that follows.
I originally thought the hand shaking was from anger, but apparently it was actually a symptom of Parkinson's disease. Indeed as someone who had a loved one who suffered from that same disease it looks at least pretty similar. Also that's not the only time it's shown shaking like that in Downfall either.
He's also Captain Blumburtt in Temple of Doom. Meanwhile, Krebs is Emile Largo from Thunderball, Keitel's Bond's father in law from On Her Majesty's and Burgdof gets shot in the head by Danny Glover after shouting 'Diplomatic Immunity!' "It's just been revoked!"
2:05 Sir Alec Guiness was a great actor, but really, his delivery of the line "An order of mine has not been executed!" simply doesn't have the same hmph as "Das war ein Befehl!" by Bruno Ganz. But from a certain point of view, this was also compelling to watch. If we didn't have "Der Untergang" to compare this with, we'd be praising it a bit more.
I agree to an extent but also disagree, Guiness looked more like Hitler how we usually imagine him, the facial features, the eyes everything about Guiness looks like Hitler how he was in 33, but he did didn't look like how we'd expect someone who's in the process of losing the biggest war in history, to look like. (He simply looks too fit and healthy, Hitler by that time was heavy addict and on the verge of insanity) Ganz on the other hand perfectly captured an old, frail dictator ravaged by war and drugs, slowly declining into madness. In my opinion both look extremely like the actual Hitler, but Ganz simply looks more like how I'd expect Hitler to look in the last losing days of the war, drugged to the gills and declining further and further.
Really apart from Bruno Ganz the only realistic Hitler ever played. All others are cartoons. I believe these two men really understood Hitler (the man- the human being). There is ample first hand observations of him. Excellent job.
The fact that the dialogue here is nearly word for word the same as in _The Downfall_ there must be a great deal of certainty that this is how it played out.
All of the survivors were interviewed afterward, and based on their accounts, we have a pretty good idea. Some of the people who were in the bunker were giving interviews into the 2000s.
@@pkobalt yes, diaries, memoirs. Would you believe, there are still a few neo-Nazi fools who say all the evidence and independent reports that support each other mean absolutely nothing. Sad, really.
Stalin: "I've been waiting for you Adolph. We meet again. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but a learner, now I am the master!" Adolph: "Only a master of evil, Stalin!:
"Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Hitler. Your sad devotion to that ancient hocus from Raiders of the Lost Ark has not helped you conjure up replacement Wehrmacht corps or Luftwaffe divisions, or given you clairvoyance enough to find Kurosawa's Hidden Fortr....." (sounds of choking and gasping)
Why are people mocking this scene? This is some of the finest acting I have ever seen. He gets Hitlers infamous hand gestures while giving an intense speech, absolutely perfect.
Emilio Largo (Adolfo Celi, 007: Thunderball), Obi-Wan Kenobi (Alec Guinness, SWIV: A New Hope), Arjen Rudd (Joss Ackland, Lethal Weapon 2), Delbert Grady (Philip Stone, The Shining) and Winston Churchill (Simon Ward, Young Winston). The star power here is incredible.
@@stunbot0 It's not terrible at all. It's just weird that it's played with English accents. The acting is great and Alec Guiness looks convincingly like Hitler.
@@cedricliggins7528 No. It wouldn't have. That's the whole point. Steiner had a tiny ragtag detachment of men and kids going up against a hardened force of 2.5+ million Soviet soldiers and 6,750 tanks. They would have all died and their loss would have meant nothing. That's why Steiner turned around and dipped.
@@jonburrows2684 No. "Lloyd" was the ghostly bartender (played by Joe Turkel, who just recently passed away). The ghostly caretaker who had chopped up his wife and kids (and who Jack Torrance met after getting a drink spilled on him) was named "Mr Grady" (played by British actor Philip Stone - and who appears in the film about HItler).
This makes me appreciate Bruno Ganz even more. The scene and dialogue is almost identical to Downfall. But after being spoiled by Bruno Ganz version this version is hard to watch
I was scrolling looking to see if someone noticed this!! The General to Hitlers left with the silver hair is Italian actor Adolfo Celi who also played Emilio Largo, SPECTREs Number 2 and the villain from the 1965 Sean Connery 007 film Thunderball
Counts for the all that became a Dutch General, after Shell Queen Beatrix got in Power (1980). She ( her advisers) concluded that if the Dutch Army have way too much Generals, the chance of a Military Coup would be way less possible. And see how they installed a Piano Playing Commander at Srebrenica.. Dutch Army got more Retired Generals than Life Ammo for practice !.
Alec Guinness was a great actor but Bruno Ganz was at a different level in Downfall. It is amazing to think how long the German's kept fighting. Long after they were beaten.
Not exactly amazing but a waste of life. It was a war propagated by selfish evil men and squeezed the life out of all able bodied men until they were spent, all for these few evil men.
@@weasle2904 no. Allied were and still are, everything you think you know about "nazis" you have heard from those who hate European race and those who wanted to disguise their own crimes and point finger at the losers of WWII
This was first broadcast on PBS in 1980 or 81 when I saw it at age 15. I was terrified. But I couldn’t rip my eyes away. Just riveted. Jump ahead 25 or so years and I was equally terrified with ‘Downfall’ and Bruno Gantz is convincingly Adolph Hitler. A most outstanding, and miserable film.
Hey, I first saw this at the movies when I was 20! Me and my future wife, now married 45 years. No, Hitler was not the matchmaker. The scene we'd LOVE to see out of this again is Hitler loading his dessert with whipped cream. Man, he piles it on like he's getting ready to plaster a wall!
There was another English language movie about Hitler's final days where Anthony Hopkins played Hitler. It would be nice to see some of the scenes from all three movies side-by-side.
@@krashd I've seen the Anthony Hopkin's film, it was called "The Bunker" and was broadcast in the early 80's. Tony did a pretty good sick and burned-out Hitler but was really still too young for the role, he just didn't "look" the part. There was a British made-for-TV film about Hitler in the bunker made in the 70's starring Frank Finlay as Hitler. Just awful, it's almost a parody. Not that I blame the actors, a gig's a gig after all and you play the role as written or you look for another job.
British gentleman do not rant, sir. They hold their pinky on their highest hand out at 45 degrees, raise an eyebrow quizzically, and then clear their throats in a not-overly-loud fashion. And that's when all those assembled know that heads are about to roll, either theirs or a greater number of some other poor bastards. Walk softly and carry a big stick was the English credo long before the so called Roughrider ever existed.
That's why the English gentry and officer class always have their batmen and attendants to do all the rough and dirty work. "Wouldn't want to muddy up one's riding boots too much, now would we? Now there's a good chap."
@John Tait Certainly, sir: all three tyrants found themselves alone, surrounded by a larger force, and abandoned by their allies. It may be argued Hitler was surrounded by friends. . .but in his case it was revealed not a few in that room were only present out of fear not loyalty.
"British Hitler isnt real, he cant hurt you."
British Hitler:
😭😭😭😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣
Jedi Hitler
Oh he can hurt you with his razor sharp wit experience it and tell me about it later I'll be waiting !
Britler
People should add fake German subtitles to this scene.
😄😄😄😄😄
reverse uno card
Der Untergang Parodie: Hitler beschwert sich darüber, dass sein Xbox-Live-Konto gesperrt wurde.
Underrated.
Epic
'Do you know the Führer?'
'Of course I know him, he is me!'
-Argentinian Star Wars
Really wish you put Der ha
He can't win - but there are alternatives to fighting.
Like U-Boats to Argentina.
Me asking an old man in Buenos Aires
🤣🤣🤣
“Your father was the best Luftwaffe pilot in the galaxy.”
-Adolf Kenobi
Gold
Darth Meyer:
"Look, I am dein Vater"
"Lies! My father's name was Goring!"
He could Stuka a womp rat from 3000 feet.
haha that comment deserves price money lol, i laughed so hard
@@70snostalgia Despite all that sand. He didn't like sand. It was coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it got everywhere.
Original game vs remaster
More like Remake
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@@impostors6905Which one do you consider the remake?
@@냥-n3s What?
@@JA37Viggen love♡☆♡
This wasn't how I pictured the Clone Wars. But now I see why Obi-Wan had to go into hiding.
of course that make sense! 😂
He went to Tunisia whom he thought was Argentina
Luke: You fought in the Clone Wars?
Obi-Wan: Not quite.
😂😂😂
Obi-wan was hitler lol
I didn't get this joke until I found out the actor playing hitler was actually alec guiness himself lmao
@@axyspianostudio You know Luke some people are more equal than others.
🤣😂
this is like a british parody of the downfall
Ey
Hitler with an English accent and Grady from the Shining telling him Steiner didn't attack. Definitely feels off.
This movie came out decades before the German one ironically
Alec Guinnes played Hitler here ! So this was before Downfall !
This movie was released in 1973
"Why didn't Steiner attack?"
"Mein fuhrer..Steiner has turned to the dark side."
"THat's wrong! How could you even say that?!"
Steiner fell from the brige on the river Kwai.
@@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526 "I don't believe you!...I can't..."
This implies that literally Hitler isn't on the dark side
Steiner has turned to the dark side. Darth Spaß seduced him.
Damn it Fegelein! FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN!
Hitler then phoned Stalin and declared "If You Strike Me Down, I Shall Become More Powerful Than You Can Possibly Imagine"
Stalin actually replied "What are you going to do? Give me a stroke in eight years' time?"
Now THAT is hilarious!
Haha. Good one.
In a way, not wrong
Seeing that Nazism is making resurgennce now, this is legitimately terrifying.
*Krebs:* MY Fuhrer........Steiner........
*Jodl:* Steiner does not have the high ground.....The Attack against Vader did not take place.....
Der untergang?
Jodl or Yoda?
@@rafaelokamura Neither
To be fair, the high ground is indeed very strategically advantageous in war.
Now imagine Vader as Marshall Zhukov.
“That’s no Steiner...that’s a Russian Battalion!”
"A Russian battalion? This far from Rodina, their Motherland?"
"I'm getting a bad feeling about this."
Tank commander Mikhail Kalashnikov: Continue with the operation. You may fire where ready.
@@chrismc410 "Turn the Focke Wulf around"
Adolfi Hit Kenobler: "Militry Academies. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy!"
"What I should've done is liquidate all the high-ranking officers, like VADER!"
Hitler: Where is Steiner???
His Generals: Steiner...... Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long..... long time
Lol 😂😂
Who said this
@@aryaaswale7316 Obi Wan Star Wars reference
😂😂😂.
"No, he's not dead...not yet."
"An elegant rant, for a more civilised age"
Steiner - he was a cunning warrior … and he was a good friend.
And then Fegelein seduced him to the Dark Side.
Luke Steinvolken!
Steiner’s attack succeeded… from a certain point of view.
@allisterbernal5954
''From my point of view the Allies are evil!''
Ah there is nothing like reminiscing with Obi Wadolf Kenobitler.
Ever since the death of Count Himmler, Steiner became his new antic apprentice
Now finally the Germans can enjoy these memes without having them ruined by understanding what's actually being said
Well... the majority of us speak English as well...
@@darkawakening01 🤣😅
@@darkawakening01 Pretty sure that was a joke but i guess that flew over your head. But i guess germans aint known for their humor.
@@Jebu911 Jesus.. it was just an ironic remark, Mr. stereotypical worldview.
@@darkawakening01 everyone with a decent education in the United States is very well aware that the vast majority of Europeans are fluent in English, and other languages.
''Years ago you served my father in The Great War. Now he begs you to help him in his struggle against Bolshevism.''
Obi-Wan learns Steiner executed Order 66 (1945 colorized)
Funny because Alec Guinness is in this movie.
I saw terrible things on the security tapes
I saw Himmler...
Leading Younglings...
@@LeviForWaifu
"No... No, not Himmler... He wouldn't!"
"These are not the divisions you are looking for..."
@TNStormSpotter “You will give me your scientists…”
Who said this
I am now 100% convinced that during the production of Downfall, they had this scene in mind
Probably because its based on the actual event so both movies are consistent
@@thegorefatherdonkhorneleon5159Used the same book didn’t they?
They used Traudl Junges written accounts as well as interview transcripts
Absolutely. But Guinness is tops
For sure bruno ganz watched this performance too
Alec Guinness has way too distinctive a voice to be a convincing Hitler.
That said, he does a damn good acting job.
His performance was good enough for me to overlook his voice.
Yep. It's distracting. Of course, not exactly Sir Alec's fault for having made his own voice instantly recognizable.
@@abc64pan
That voice was exactly similiar to Hitler.
Hitler's voice was as deep as Darth Vaders. Theres a recording of his voice, its uploaded in UA-cam. You can try to look it up.
I think he should have skipped this one.
He was the best!!
I can’t even imagine what the actual hitler rant was really like.
Probably worse with some smacks upside the head to Krebs
There was probably a lot of hushed snickering and pantomiming because they were putting on a fake show, knowing they were all escaping to South America and faking Hitler’s death.
went on for about half an hour.
He had halitosis so not very pleasant
@@SpaceTravel1776 lol
“Luke, did I ever tell you about Felix Steiner? He was an ss General during the Second World War. He had one job, to launch a counter attack to break the Soviet encirclement of Berlin. Instead he decided to call in and just say he wouldn’t. Didn’t even have the courage to tell me face to face. Really sent me into a rage when I learned, told everyone I was going to eat a gun.
And he was a good friend.”
Stalin: "It's over Hitler! I have the high ground!"
Hitler: "You underestimate my power!"
Stalin: "....don't try it...."
"You were my brother, Adolf. I loved you.."
It's actually scary how much Alec Guinness has the same physical features as Hitler in this scene.
Exactly what i was thinking. This may be the best Hitler in movies and all forms of media (in terms of of looks) i ever seen.
@@gordusmaximus4990 Watch the final scene of "The Bunker". 80s made for TV film. Anthony Hopkins has ALL of the gestures of Hitler making one of his speeches. UA-cam used to have it but was removed because "it violates our policy on hate speech". So, someone posted the whole film!
Indeed. Similarities are huge!
@@billd3356 That doesnt surpise me that YT removed it...
@@whoyoucallinpinhead3523 Start at the 2:28 mark. You will see Hitler, not Hopkiins. Hitler.ua-cam.com/video/DpH9lXP0DW0/v-deo.html
Who knew Obi Wan could commit such atrocities to the world
I wonder if the director of "Downfall" watched this film and based his own depiction of Hitler's rant on it.
It is my thinking also he may have.
Jackson Rushing
It’s a clear copy lol
@@MichaelJ44 no they just had different versions of what actually happened
They're both based on the same account. The outburst seems to have actually happened.
"A lot of it was sourced from the survivors, a few of whom are depicted in the movie. Traudl Junge (Hitler's secretary) being a major source."
@@basedeltazero714 Cheers.
This scene needs German subtitles and needs to be parodied and put in Hitler Rants.
Obi-Wan has turned to the Dark Side, with Emilo Largo at his side.
There is a New Hope cause we got Marc Ange Draco.
Imagine having this meeting over Zoom during the lockdown.
With your trousers down like Witzleben
I'd just quietly leave the meeting and listen to some music.
He can lock the doors behind him in a physical meeting, but even if he succeeds in locking me into that zoom meeting, I can just turn the volume down and minimise the screen, then play minesweeper or solitaire.
Nothing he said was particularly constructive or accurate or worth listening to anyway, so I'll just ask for the key points from others after the meeting.
"FEGELEIN!! UN-MUTE ME, DAMNIT!!"
adolf the kind of guy who's mic just kinda fades out because he's screaming too much
Imagine one of them pulling a Jeffrey toobin during it 🤣
2:22 "You were the Chosen One! It was said that you would destroy the Allies, not join them! Bring balance to the Reich, not leave it in darkness!"
How ironic. The People chose Hitler to be their Messiah, only for their own people to turn on them.
@@usamazahid3882 That is what happens when you promise the Earth and deliver a handful of dirt.
Probably what Hitler said about Himmler... Deleted scene. 😂
I doubt the Nazis referred to their enemies as the “Allies.”
Ah yes, Obi-Wan being a dictator like his apprentice before him
People wondering if Downfall was a remake of this. Read the SS transcripts, this is slightly more accurate in what Hitler said, but I think the actor was better in the German film.
Bruno Ganz nailed the gestures and of course, the speech, but Guinness in this movie resembles Hitler in appearance a little more.
Bruno ganz and Alec Guinness both did a good job playing Hitler but Bruno's outburst of learning of Steiner's failed attack was pure gold.
I wonder if its possible that in real life Hitler did no lose his temper and started ranting but simply cried. Then when realising this will end up in the history books he made his close associates promise they will state that he started ranting like a lunatic. Hitler was image councious a sad Hitler would tarnish his postwar image a lot more than an enraged one. At the same time all the guys close to him were commited nazis. Is it possible they intentionally gave a false report about Hitler afterwards to maintain his mythical larger than life image? Hitler was aware of the historical importance of his final hours is it possible he intentionally tailored it in such a way as to maintain his tough guy myth?🤔 Ultimately we have no recording of this just accounts and records but those can be doctored.
@@florinivan6907 Nah, imagine that you’ve just been told that everything you’ve ever done or achieved is quickly being undone by those around you, and that you know there’s no way out. You would be angry and rant too. Then there would be a sadness that overcomes it afterwards when you realize that everything is futile and simply are done.
While the transcripts were closer to this portrayal.. I think Ganz was going for the mental collapse that Hitler was going through.. this portrayal seemed more controlled than what I imagined Hitler was going through... Ganz nailed that portion of it
- My Fuhrer! This is historical moment!
- I know, we are going to make an ultimate internet meme, which would be re-played for centuries in different versions!
Use the force, Steiner.
1:54 Palpatine in an alternate reality, where the Clones denied Order 66.
Never thought someday I would see Obi Wan acting as Palpatine.
Where obi wan was the sith lord infiltrater instead of Darth Sidious
I actually had that happen in a game of Clone Wars Risk. Half the clones refused Order 66, and they instead stayed loyal to their Jedi commanders. They then staged a massive attack on Coruscant with all their fleets and clone armies to dislodge Palpatine from the throne, and won the day. That version of the Clone Wars ended with a civil war in the Clone Army where the Jedi-led clones won, and Palpatine was decapitated by the Jedi in front of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant after a show trial where he was found guilty of a laundry-list of crimes.
😂
He didn't use the pencil of doom...smh
John Wick could have saved the Reich with a pencil.
Like the Chief and Agent 86 of CONTROL, Hitler and his individual generals should have used the Cone of Silence.
Nah. He used the Phone of Doom.
“If you break your legs, it’s hard to cook orangutan.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! How have I not seen that before now?! That's hilarious! Thank you!
It's amazing that with all the actors in history who portrayed Hitler; Alec really did look like him.
True though
Sounded like him too, Hitler’s everyday voice was deep and hollow, like his
Too young looking for this final phase of his life.
Have you seen Bruno Ganz's portrayal in Downfall?
@@drott150 even his posture
And it looks like he didn't have Parkinson disease
In the early 70s, there was still a tendency to overplay Hitler to the point at which it approached caricature. Guinness's portrayal here was a classic interpretation, but lacks the sense of immersion that Ganz brings nearly 30 years later. It's how what we learn about a historical figure changes how that person is portrayed - in _Downfall_ , Hitler is slouched, his left arm and hand withered and trembing as he removes his glasses in initial reaction to the news about Steiner. In that one gesture from a frail man, we see how neither time nor circumstance was going to acknowledge his greatness, but we still fear the last burst of rage and charisma that follows.
"...but we still fear the last burst of rage and charisma that follows." Yeah, especially when you're in the same room.
the hand shaking in downfall is ridiculous. this is much more realistic.
@@gcash8892 hitlers hand did shake uncontrollably towards the end of the war though
@@gcash8892 He was on a lot of drugs
I originally thought the hand shaking was from anger, but apparently it was actually a symptom of Parkinson's disease. Indeed as someone who had a loved one who suffered from that same disease it looks at least pretty similar. Also that's not the only time it's shown shaking like that in Downfall either.
I can’t hear Jodl without thinking “I corrected them.”
Kubrick used him in 3 movies; father of Alex in Clockwork, Grady in The Shining and just as an extra in the very last scene of Eyes Wide Shit
@@urkersen5246 Also in Barry Lyndon
He's also Captain Blumburtt in Temple of Doom.
Meanwhile, Krebs is Emile Largo from Thunderball, Keitel's Bond's father in law from On Her Majesty's and Burgdof gets shot in the head by Danny Glover after shouting 'Diplomatic Immunity!'
"It's just been revoked!"
Dude why did I read "Jodl" as "Jedi"...
2:05 Sir Alec Guiness was a great actor, but really, his delivery of the line "An order of mine has not been executed!" simply doesn't have the same hmph as "Das war ein Befehl!" by Bruno Ganz.
But from a certain point of view, this was also compelling to watch. If we didn't have "Der Untergang" to compare this with, we'd be praising it a bit more.
"a certain point of view", i see what you did there. lol
@@LadyFairChildVideo came here to point that out lol
That's my sentiment as well! Alec Guiness looks the best as Hitler, but Ganz does the best in acting the part!
I'm taking the high ground
You nailed it, sir. His performance was good given this was from '73.
I consider Downfall to be the gold standard of Hitler's last days, but Guinness did resemble Hitler more than Bruno Ganz.
@Alex From Boston like he just got back from vacation in Cornwall.🤣
I agree to an extent but also disagree, Guiness looked more like Hitler how we usually imagine him, the facial features, the eyes everything about Guiness looks like Hitler how he was in 33, but he did didn't look like how we'd expect someone who's in the process of losing the biggest war in history, to look like. (He simply looks too fit and healthy, Hitler by that time was heavy addict and on the verge of insanity)
Ganz on the other hand perfectly captured an old, frail dictator ravaged by war and drugs, slowly declining into madness.
In my opinion both look extremely like the actual Hitler, but Ganz simply looks more like how I'd expect Hitler to look in the last losing days of the war, drugged to the gills and declining further and further.
@Alex From Boston Indubitably !
@@jurassicpeterGuinness looks more.like Hitler during the first years of the war, while Ganz looks more like Hitler the week before he took his life.
Britler isn’t real he can’t hurt you
Britler:
"Das war ein befehl!"
Der Angriff Steiners war ein Befehl!
FEGELEIN!!!
(Befehl) is an abstract noun, don`t forget the captial (B)
Hey dolfy, watcha planning?
-jodl
@@javiercs006 ''Wer sind Sie, dass Sie es wagen, sich meinen Befehlen zu widersetzen!''
Really apart from Bruno Ganz the only realistic Hitler ever played. All others are cartoons. I believe these two men really understood Hitler (the man- the human being). There is ample first hand observations of him. Excellent job.
This Hitler actor also looks identical/similar to Hitler. But I agree with you.
there is no lady crying scene here though 😄
The downfall one was good too
Downfall one was better
Derek Jacoby was excellent in "Inside The Third Reich".
The fact that the dialogue here is nearly word for word the same as in _The Downfall_ there must be a great deal of certainty that this is how it played out.
All of the survivors were interviewed afterward, and based on their accounts, we have a pretty good idea. Some of the people who were in the bunker were giving interviews into the 2000s.
It means absolutely nothing
@@pkobalt yes, diaries, memoirs. Would you believe, there are still a few neo-Nazi fools who say all the evidence and independent reports that support each other mean absolutely nothing.
Sad, really.
If Obi-Wan had gone after Vader with this ferocity, Vader would have gone "wait hold up".
Stalin: "I've been waiting for you Adolph. We meet again. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but a learner, now I am the master!"
Adolph: "Only a master of evil, Stalin!:
Golden especially how each of them considered himself a hero and the other one a devil despite being so similar to one another
Hitler: “Execute Order 66”
Generals: “NO”
The Bunker Ambient sounds a lot like the first Death Star.
when Obi Wan becomes Palpatine
"Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Hitler. Your sad devotion to that ancient hocus from Raiders of the Lost Ark has not helped you conjure up replacement Wehrmacht corps or Luftwaffe divisions, or given you clairvoyance enough to find Kurosawa's Hidden Fortr....." (sounds of choking and gasping)
@@BrucknerMotet "I find your lack of faith of the High ground of National Socialism disturbing."
@@cripplehawk Grand Moff Fegelein: "Enough of this. Lord Hitler, release him; all this bickering is pointless."
@@starguy2718 *H-Man:* "As you wis- Ein moment. Ich bin der Fuhrer!!! Ich wurde wieder einmal ausgetrickst!!!!!"
FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN!"
General Grievous: Hello There. Wait a minute, have we met before?
Adolph Hitler: In another time.
“If the Soviets strike me down I shall become more powerful than they can possibly imagine”
These people are to remain. Tarkin, Thrawn and Cody.
Too bad the three weren't Larry, Moe and Curly. A little comedy relief at this point in the movie would be most welcome.
“Das war ein Befehl….der Angriff Steiners war ein Befehl…wer sind sie, das sie es wagen sich meinen Befehlen zu widersetzen?!?!“
"You fought in the Clone Wars?"
"Uhhhh... yeah"
Why are people mocking this scene? This is some of the finest acting I have ever seen.
He gets Hitlers infamous hand gestures while giving an intense speech, absolutely perfect.
Hitler purists. So annoying.
They probably watched Downfall first before seeing this
you should see Downfall.
Because it feels staged rather than natural
I mean this is very good but Downfall is just much more convincing, also helps that it's actually in german
Can we have a Downfall meme?
But we have Downfall at home.
Downfall at home:
Emilio Largo (Adolfo Celi, 007: Thunderball), Obi-Wan Kenobi (Alec Guinness, SWIV: A New Hope), Arjen Rudd (Joss Ackland, Lethal Weapon 2), Delbert Grady (Philip Stone, The Shining) and Winston Churchill (Simon Ward, Young Winston). The star power here is incredible.
This Bormann actually looks like the real Bormann!
I noticed too
And Jodl wasn't hairless either lol
Yes, that stopped me, too.
Yes, this boringman is more realistic
tno refe
Somewhere in Hell, Hitler is Screaming at Every Actor that's ever played him.
NEIN NEIN NEIN YOU DIDNT GET ZE PARKINSONS RIGHT
YAAAAAAAAAAAAA
nah actor from downfall was amazing, this clip is terrible
With all those Hitler Rant Parodies out there, Dolfy is going to be busy for quite a while.
@@stunbot0 It's not terrible at all. It's just weird that it's played with English accents. The acting is great and Alec Guiness looks convincingly like Hitler.
Scary how much Guinness actually looks like Hitler here...
All Steiner had to do was attack.
It was literally a suicide attack, he had no chance
He should have used the force
And it would end up being a bloodbath for Steiner's troops. Steiner knew well before that the war was lost.
@@whitezombie10 And yet it could have altered the course of the war.
@@cedricliggins7528
No. It wouldn't have. That's the whole point. Steiner had a tiny ragtag detachment of men and kids going up against a hardened force of 2.5+ million Soviet soldiers and 6,750 tanks. They would have all died and their loss would have meant nothing. That's why Steiner turned around and dipped.
"These are not the stormtroopers you are looking for."
Damn. Obi-Wan really went to the dark side in this one.
When you actually listen to Hitle'rs real voice in speeches its astonishing how close Guinness got to it whilst speaking a different language.
This movie was made in the early 70’s. Guinness did a good job portraying Hitler.
Saw it in '73 or '74. I was 13 years old.
@@jimmyarmijo2252 I did too!
And wasn't that Lloyd from shining? The one that whacked his wife and 2 daughters then himself?
@@jonburrows2684 correct!
@@jonburrows2684 No. "Lloyd" was the ghostly bartender (played by Joe Turkel, who just recently passed away). The ghostly caretaker who had chopped up his wife and kids (and who Jack Torrance met after getting a drink spilled on him) was named "Mr Grady" (played by British actor Philip Stone - and who appears in the film about HItler).
Hitler to the advancing allies: "These are not the high ranking Nazi party members you are looking for" 👋
Obi Wan Hitler: "This is not the Berlin you're looking for."
Zhukov: "This is not the Berlin we're looking for."
This makes me appreciate Bruno Ganz even more. The scene and dialogue is almost identical to Downfall. But after being spoiled by Bruno Ganz version this version is hard to watch
What??!! I didn't know Mr.Delbert Grady used to work under Hitlar, before working as a caretaker at overlook hotel.😳
You are the caretaker, Mr.Torrance. You've always been the caretaker.
I was scrolling looking to see if someone noticed this!! The General to Hitlers left with the silver hair is Italian actor Adolfo Celi who also played Emilio Largo, SPECTREs Number 2 and the villain from the 1965 Sean Connery 007 film Thunderball
He’s suggesting the fuhrer “correct” Steiner. 😂
No wonder he used the N-word. He's a Nazi.
When general Kenobi learn Cody didn't attack
"My generals are traitors! You will pay with your blood!"
"Damn fool, I knew you were going to say that!"
"Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"
@@Milordvega *"Wookie talk"*
2:10 Everybody betrayed me! I'm fed up with this world!
Nice Tommy Wiseau joke
I DID NOT ATTACK POLAND THIS IS BULLSHIT......i did not.
@@landeny65 Oh Hi Soviets
“All of my generals are cowards and chickens! Chip chip chip”
Luke: So what did you do during the Clone Wars.
Obi-Wan: Uh... I was a space wizard like your father.
now you begin to appreciate the genius of Bruno Ganz...
This one is allright but feels real bootleg compared to the german "remake"
Not really, Hitler in his final days didn't have the energy to be exploding at people and ranting all the time.
The older I get, the more I appreciate this one for being pretty great for what it is.
No one can deny that Bruno Ganz watched Alec Guinness' a few times or more.
Classic! "You've spent years in military academies and all you've learned how to do is hold a knife and fork!"
Counts for the all that became a Dutch General, after Shell Queen Beatrix got in Power (1980).
She ( her advisers) concluded that if the Dutch Army have way too much Generals, the chance of a Military Coup would be way less possible.
And see how they installed a Piano Playing Commander at Srebrenica..
Dutch Army got more Retired Generals than Life Ammo for practice !.
The line about the knife and fork was in Downfall too I think. So Hitler probably really said something like that.
@@darth856 And people say only the Americans dropped nukes....
"...while I conquered all of Europe..."
It seems like the sort of common sentiment an enlisted man might have against officers.
Obi Wan needs to wield the Pencil of Doom.
Alec Guinness was a great actor but Bruno Ganz was at a different level in Downfall. It is amazing to think how long the German's kept fighting. Long after they were beaten.
Not exactly amazing but a waste of life. It was a war propagated by selfish evil men and squeezed the life out of all able bodied men until they were spent, all for these few evil men.
@@weasle2904 that's the dumbest take I've ever heard
@@tonycaniggia huh? Were the Nazis not evil men? lol
@@weasle2904 no. Allied were and still are, everything you think you know about "nazis" you have heard from those who hate European race and those who wanted to disguise their own crimes and point finger at the losers of WWII
@@tonycaniggia youre crazy, they killed people systemically based on race without remorse. Pure hatred and evil.
There weren't enough stormtroopers to execute order 66....
0:03 It’s bad enough this guy had to deal with telling Hitler of a failure, then he must tell Blofeld at Spectre that Project Thunderball failed.
This the moment when Obi Wan becomes Ben Kenobi
Fun fact: Obi wan kenobi didn't fight the clone wars.
He fought the second world war.
First World War =Clone Wars
Second World War = Galactic Civil War (Rebels vs Empire)
Guinness actually fought in WW2, so he had experience to draw from to deliver in his performances.
And Hitler has gone underground where he'd secretly trained Luke in the ways of the Force.
Anakin: “From my point of view, the Jedi are evil.”
Obi-wan: 2:28
My sides
This was first broadcast on PBS in 1980 or 81 when I saw it at age 15. I was terrified. But I couldn’t rip my eyes away. Just riveted.
Jump ahead 25 or so years and I was equally terrified with ‘Downfall’ and Bruno Gantz is convincingly Adolph Hitler. A most outstanding, and miserable film.
@v24 dude. almost
Hey, I first saw this at the movies when I was 20! Me and my future wife, now married 45 years. No, Hitler was not the matchmaker.
The scene we'd LOVE to see out of this again is Hitler loading his dessert with whipped cream. Man, he piles it on like he's getting ready to plaster a wall!
There was another English language movie about Hitler's final days where Anthony Hopkins played Hitler. It would be nice to see some of the scenes from all three movies side-by-side.
@@krashd I've seen the Anthony Hopkin's film, it was called "The Bunker" and was broadcast in the early 80's. Tony did a pretty good sick and burned-out Hitler but was really still too young for the role, he just didn't "look" the part.
There was a British made-for-TV film about Hitler in the bunker made in the 70's starring Frank Finlay as Hitler. Just awful, it's almost a parody. Not that I blame the actors, a gig's a gig after all and you play the role as written or you look for another job.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 🤪
One more thing to mark off my "weird things I've seen on the Internet today" list
😂
I’m sorry to learn that Obi-wan switched to the dark side.
You can’t win, allied forces. If you strike me down… I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
'My spirit will rise from the grave'
So he did actually say something similar
So that's how Trump was made.
2:28 I was waiting for Hitler to say Fegelein!!!!!
Mein Fuhrer, Steiner did not care for the attack at first, so I...corrrrected him.
Haha nice reference joke there.
Sir Alec Guinness plays Hitler here.
You know Hitler?
Alec Guinness: I know that guy. He’s me
Badly
@@franknberry6397 No one can really match up to the late great Bruno Ganz in Der Untergang.
@@CJODell12 He was remarkable. Anthony Hopkins and Derek Jacobi were both excellent as well. But Ganz speaking German really nailed it.
@@franknberry6397 Don't forget about Robert Carlyle, Steven Berkoff, David Bamber, Hugh Scully (The World Wars) too.
man star wars took a weird turn
After he informed hitler of the bad news he ended up as a men’s room attendant at the overlook hotel. Wow that’s rough.
Yes, but he was a whiz at getting out drink stains. Just ask Jack Torrance !
The Brits are far too mild-mannered for the roles
Yet they screwed 2/3 of the World.....
@@jazsm5385 But in a mild-mannered way, I say.
@@jazsm5385 But saved it as well.
British gentleman do not rant, sir. They hold their pinky on their highest hand out at 45 degrees, raise an eyebrow quizzically, and then clear their throats in a not-overly-loud fashion. And that's when all those assembled know that heads are about to roll, either theirs or a greater number of some other poor bastards. Walk softly and carry a big stick was the English credo long before the so called Roughrider ever existed.
That's why the English gentry and officer class always have their batmen and attendants to do all the rough and dirty work. "Wouldn't want to muddy up one's riding boots too much, now would we? Now there's a good chap."
This is like when you and your homies get sent to the principals office
So that's where Obi-Wan Kenobi went during his exile.
It must be a trope with the tyrant: there is much to compare of the last hours of Nero, Richard III, and Hitler.
@John Tait Certainly, sir: all three tyrants found themselves alone, surrounded by a larger force, and abandoned by their allies. It may be argued Hitler was surrounded by friends. . .but in his case it was revealed not a few in that room were only present out of fear not loyalty.
"Obergruppenführer Steiner, you have failed me for the last time!"
Me: I want the downfall
Mom: We have the downfall at home
The downfall at home: