@@darkawakening01 everyone with a decent education in the United States is very well aware that the vast majority of Europeans are fluent in English, and other languages.
“Luke, did I ever tell you about Felix Steiner? He was an ss General during the Second World War. He had one job, to launch a counter attack to break the Soviet encirclement of Berlin. Instead he decided to call in and just say he wouldn’t. Didn’t even have the courage to tell me face to face. Really sent me into a rage when I learned, told everyone I was going to eat a gun. And he was a good friend.”
He's also Captain Blumburtt in Temple of Doom. Meanwhile, Krebs is Emile Largo from Thunderball, Keitel's Bond's father in law from On Her Majesty's and Burgdof gets shot in the head by Danny Glover after shouting 'Diplomatic Immunity!' "It's just been revoked!"
@@abc64pan That voice was exactly similiar to Hitler. Hitler's voice was as deep as Darth Vaders. Theres a recording of his voice, its uploaded in UA-cam. You can try to look it up.
There was probably a lot of hushed snickering and pantomiming because they were putting on a fake show, knowing they were all escaping to South America and faking Hitler’s death.
The fact that the dialogue here is nearly word for word the same as in _The Downfall_ there must be a great deal of certainty that this is how it played out.
All of the survivors were interviewed afterward, and based on their accounts, we have a pretty good idea. Some of the people who were in the bunker were giving interviews into the 2000s.
They're both based on the same account. The outburst seems to have actually happened. "A lot of it was sourced from the survivors, a few of whom are depicted in the movie. Traudl Junge (Hitler's secretary) being a major source."
@@gordusmaximus4990 Watch the final scene of "The Bunker". 80s made for TV film. Anthony Hopkins has ALL of the gestures of Hitler making one of his speeches. UA-cam used to have it but was removed because "it violates our policy on hate speech". So, someone posted the whole film!
People wondering if Downfall was a remake of this. Read the SS transcripts, this is slightly more accurate in what Hitler said, but I think the actor was better in the German film.
I wonder if its possible that in real life Hitler did no lose his temper and started ranting but simply cried. Then when realising this will end up in the history books he made his close associates promise they will state that he started ranting like a lunatic. Hitler was image councious a sad Hitler would tarnish his postwar image a lot more than an enraged one. At the same time all the guys close to him were commited nazis. Is it possible they intentionally gave a false report about Hitler afterwards to maintain his mythical larger than life image? Hitler was aware of the historical importance of his final hours is it possible he intentionally tailored it in such a way as to maintain his tough guy myth?🤔 Ultimately we have no recording of this just accounts and records but those can be doctored.
@@florinivan6907 Nah, imagine that you’ve just been told that everything you’ve ever done or achieved is quickly being undone by those around you, and that you know there’s no way out. You would be angry and rant too. Then there would be a sadness that overcomes it afterwards when you realize that everything is futile and simply are done.
While the transcripts were closer to this portrayal.. I think Ganz was going for the mental collapse that Hitler was going through.. this portrayal seemed more controlled than what I imagined Hitler was going through... Ganz nailed that portion of it
I'd just quietly leave the meeting and listen to some music. He can lock the doors behind him in a physical meeting, but even if he succeeds in locking me into that zoom meeting, I can just turn the volume down and minimise the screen, then play minesweeper or solitaire. Nothing he said was particularly constructive or accurate or worth listening to anyway, so I'll just ask for the key points from others after the meeting.
Emilio Largo (Adolfo Celi, 007: Thunderball), Obi-Wan Kenobi (Alec Guinness, SWIV: A New Hope), Arjen Rudd (Joss Ackland, Lethal Weapon 2), Delbert Grady (Philip Stone, The Shining) and Winston Churchill (Simon Ward, Young Winston). The star power here is incredible.
I actually had that happen in a game of Clone Wars Risk. Half the clones refused Order 66, and they instead stayed loyal to their Jedi commanders. They then staged a massive attack on Coruscant with all their fleets and clone armies to dislodge Palpatine from the throne, and won the day. That version of the Clone Wars ended with a civil war in the Clone Army where the Jedi-led clones won, and Palpatine was decapitated by the Jedi in front of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant after a show trial where he was found guilty of a laundry-list of crimes.
In the early 70s, there was still a tendency to overplay Hitler to the point at which it approached caricature. Guinness's portrayal here was a classic interpretation, but lacks the sense of immersion that Ganz brings nearly 30 years later. It's how what we learn about a historical figure changes how that person is portrayed - in _Downfall_ , Hitler is slouched, his left arm and hand withered and trembing as he removes his glasses in initial reaction to the news about Steiner. In that one gesture from a frail man, we see how neither time nor circumstance was going to acknowledge his greatness, but we still fear the last burst of rage and charisma that follows.
I originally thought the hand shaking was from anger, but apparently it was actually a symptom of Parkinson's disease. Indeed as someone who had a loved one who suffered from that same disease it looks at least pretty similar. Also that's not the only time it's shown shaking like that in Downfall either.
Really apart from Bruno Ganz the only realistic Hitler ever played. All others are cartoons. I believe these two men really understood Hitler (the man- the human being). There is ample first hand observations of him. Excellent job.
- My Fuhrer! This is historical moment! - I know, we are going to make an ultimate internet meme, which would be re-played for centuries in different versions!
2:05 Sir Alec Guiness was a great actor, but really, his delivery of the line "An order of mine has not been executed!" simply doesn't have the same hmph as "Das war ein Befehl!" by Bruno Ganz. But from a certain point of view, this was also compelling to watch. If we didn't have "Der Untergang" to compare this with, we'd be praising it a bit more.
I agree to an extent but also disagree, Guiness looked more like Hitler how we usually imagine him, the facial features, the eyes everything about Guiness looks like Hitler how he was in 33, but he did didn't look like how we'd expect someone who's in the process of losing the biggest war in history, to look like. (He simply looks too fit and healthy, Hitler by that time was heavy addict and on the verge of insanity) Ganz on the other hand perfectly captured an old, frail dictator ravaged by war and drugs, slowly declining into madness. In my opinion both look extremely like the actual Hitler, but Ganz simply looks more like how I'd expect Hitler to look in the last losing days of the war, drugged to the gills and declining further and further.
"Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Hitler. Your sad devotion to that ancient hocus from Raiders of the Lost Ark has not helped you conjure up replacement Wehrmacht corps or Luftwaffe divisions, or given you clairvoyance enough to find Kurosawa's Hidden Fortr....." (sounds of choking and gasping)
Stalin: "I've been waiting for you Adolph. We meet again. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but a learner, now I am the master!" Adolph: "Only a master of evil, Stalin!:
Ha ! I recognized that actor (Phlip Stone) playing German officer (Gen. Jodl) as the one who appeared as "Grady" the caretaker in the 1980s version of "The Shining".
I was scrolling looking to see if someone noticed this!! The General to Hitlers left with the silver hair is Italian actor Adolfo Celi who also played Emilio Largo, SPECTREs Number 2 and the villain from the 1965 Sean Connery 007 film Thunderball
Counts for the all that became a Dutch General, after Shell Queen Beatrix got in Power (1980). She ( her advisers) concluded that if the Dutch Army have way too much Generals, the chance of a Military Coup would be way less possible. And see how they installed a Piano Playing Commander at Srebrenica.. Dutch Army got more Retired Generals than Life Ammo for practice !.
@@borges3099 It's not terrible at all. It's just weird that it's played with English accents. The acting is great and Alec Guiness looks convincingly like Hitler.
Alec Guinness was a great actor but Bruno Ganz was at a different level in Downfall. It is amazing to think how long the German's kept fighting. Long after they were beaten.
Not exactly amazing but a waste of life. It was a war propagated by selfish evil men and squeezed the life out of all able bodied men until they were spent, all for these few evil men.
@@weasle2904 no. Allied were and still are, everything you think you know about "nazis" you have heard from those who hate European race and those who wanted to disguise their own crimes and point finger at the losers of WWII
@@cedricliggins7528 No. It wouldn't have. That's the whole point. Steiner had a tiny ragtag detachment of men and kids going up against a hardened force of 2.5+ million Soviet soldiers and 6,750 tanks. They would have all died and their loss would have meant nothing. That's why Steiner turned around and dipped.
I think for many of us who really enjoy these performances of the last days of Hitler, Bruno Ganz in Downfall is no doubt the gold standard, and with good justification. His performance is ultimately more realistic for several reasons. But I'll say this - I've been cycling between this performance by Guinness and Ganz's numerous times this evening, comparing the two. When I first saw Guinness do this years ago, I thought it was parody-like and weak. As others have said, his distinctive English accent alone makes certain parts downright painful to hear. However, rewatching numerous times tonight, it has really grown on me. He undeniably did an excellent job. Again as has already been stated by others here, his resemblance to Hitler in this performance is damned impressive and uncanny. Although I ultimately find myself wanting to mix this scene's script with what Ganz did, there are key lines that Guinness performs which, IMHO, are more realistic to what likely was said by Hitler during his tirade in the bunker. (I'll admit that given the tiredness of Hitler by that point, Downfall's shorter length of Hitler's tirade is likely more accurate. But I feel like everything Guinness went into during his version - recounting the executed general's trousers falling down as he hung by piano wire off a meat hook, the traitors "drowning in their own blood" (as Guinness seems to simultaneously choke up with effect), shouting that "You'll be the ruin of me, and the ruin of the German people!" as Guinness crosses his arms over his chest, a move so characteristic of an empassioned Hitler - sound extremely fitting and likely.) And those lines are part of a longer total length of rage, timewise, than Ganz displays, which is satisfying to watch. Ganz is enraged pretty much the whole time, but even though Guinness has more periods of relative calmness, he still has more rage lengthwise. And that rage is always on display, while in Downfall they're always cutting to the reactions of those outside the bunker, which has its pluses and minuses for me. I also liked that, in this version, the general takes the time to explain, in detail, why Steiner halted his attack before Hitler chews them out. It lends more realism to Hitler's irrationality and harshness. In Downfall, the generals break the news about Steiner in an extremely brief manner. In that script, one begins, then pauses for dramatic effect, and the second finishes off with just a few more words saying Steiner didn't attack. Ganz's attire and worn facial features are more appropriate, truly conveying the mood of the title "Downfall" and the events portrayed. I love how Ganz shakes his hand with Parkinson's as he removes his glasses after receiving the news, lending not only realism, but tension and a sense of building rage, of the storm clouds rolling in as he so quietly, like the beginning of a number of Hitler's speeches, orders the four generals and Bormann to remain. And I do not like that Guinness cries toward the end (I do not find that likely to have happened at all), and that he simply states "I must kill myself" (which sounds ridiculous compared to the way Ganz indirectly but forcefully puts it) - these take away from the scene overall. Lastly, I like how Ganz barks out that he should have had all senior officers executed like Stalin did! Again, very believable. While Hitler hated his enemies, he was not guilty of being unwilling or unable to appreciate their strengths, at least as he perceived them. However, upon this repeated rewatching I've done, I definitely think this performance by Guinness holds water and more. If one can manage to get past the absurdity of the last days of Hitler reenacted in English accents, it is quite, quite good indeed.
People should add fake German subtitles to this scene.
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Der Untergang Parodie: Hitler beschwert sich darüber, dass sein Xbox-Live-Konto gesperrt wurde.
Underrated.
Epic
“Your father was the best Luftwaffe pilot in the galaxy.”
-Adolf Kenobi
Gold
Darth Meyer:
"Look, I am dein Vater"
"Lies! My father's name was Goring!"
He could Stuka a womp rat from 3000 feet.
haha that comment deserves price money lol, i laughed so hard
@@70snostalgia Despite all that sand. He didn't like sand. It was coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it got everywhere.
'Do you know the Führer?'
'Of course I know him, he is me!'
-Argentinian Star Wars
Really wish you put Der ha
He can't win - but there are alternatives to fighting.
Like U-Boats to Argentina.
Me asking an old man in Buenos Aires
🤣🤣🤣
"British Hitler isnt real, he cant hurt you."
British Hitler:
😭😭😭😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣
Jedi Hitler
Oh he can hurt you with his razor sharp wit experience it and tell me about it later I'll be waiting !
Britler
Luke: You fought in the Clone Wars?
Obi-Wan: Not quite.
😂😂😂
Obi-wan was hitler lol
I didn't get this joke until I found out the actor playing hitler was actually alec guiness himself lmao
@@axyspianostudio You know Luke some people are more equal than others.
🤣😂
Original game vs remaster
More like Remake
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@@impostors6905Which one do you consider the remake?
@@user-qj2ze7su2p What?
@@JA37Viggen love♡☆♡
This wasn't how I pictured the Clone Wars. But now I see why Obi-Wan had to go into hiding.
of course that make sense! 😂
He went to Tunisia whom he thought was Argentina
"Why didn't Steiner attack?"
"Mein fuhrer..Steiner has turned to the dark side."
"THat's wrong! How could you even say that?!"
Steiner fell from the brige on the river Kwai.
@@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526 "I don't believe you!...I can't..."
This implies that literally Hitler isn't on the dark side
Steiner has turned to the dark side. Darth Spaß seduced him.
Damn it Fegelein! FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN!
this is like a british parody of the downfall
Ey
Hitler with an English accent and Grady from the Shining telling him Steiner didn't attack. Definitely feels off.
This movie came out decades before the German one ironically
Alec Guinnes played Hitler here ! So this was before Downfall !
This movie was released in 1973
*Krebs:* MY Fuhrer........Steiner........
*Jodl:* Steiner does not have the high ground.....The Attack against Vader did not take place.....
Der untergang?
Jodl or Yoda?
@@rafaelokamura Neither
To be fair, the high ground is indeed very strategically advantageous in war.
Now imagine Vader as Marshall Zhukov.
“That’s no Steiner...that’s a Russian Battalion!”
"A Russian battalion? This far from Rodina, their Motherland?"
"I'm getting a bad feeling about this."
Tank commander Mikhail Kalashnikov: Continue with the operation. You may fire where ready.
@@chrismc410 "Turn the Focke Wulf around"
I am now 100% convinced that during the production of Downfall, they had this scene in mind
Probably because its based on the actual event so both movies are consistent
@@thegorefatherdonkhorneleon5159Used the same book didn’t they?
They used Traudl Junges written accounts as well as interview transcripts
Absolutely. But Guinness is tops
Hitler then phoned Stalin and declared "If You Strike Me Down, I Shall Become More Powerful Than You Can Possibly Imagine"
Stalin actually replied "What are you going to do? Give me a stroke in eight years' time?"
Now THAT is hilarious!
Haha. Good one.
In a way, not wrong
Seeing that Nazism is making resurgennce now, this is legitimately terrifying.
Now finally the Germans can enjoy these memes without having them ruined by understanding what's actually being said
Well... the majority of us speak English as well...
@@darkawakening01 🤣😅
@@darkawakening01 Pretty sure that was a joke but i guess that flew over your head. But i guess germans aint known for their humor.
@@Jebu911 Jesus.. it was just an ironic remark, Mr. stereotypical worldview.
@@darkawakening01 everyone with a decent education in the United States is very well aware that the vast majority of Europeans are fluent in English, and other languages.
"An elegant rant, for a more civilised age"
''Years ago you served my father in The Great War. Now he begs you to help him in his struggle against Bolshevism.''
Hitler: Where is Steiner???
His Generals: Steiner...... Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long..... long time
Lol 😂😂
Who said this
@@aryaaswale7316 Obi Wan Star Wars reference
😂😂😂.
"No, he's not dead...not yet."
Obi-Wan learns Steiner executed Order 66 (1945 colorized)
Funny because Alec Guinness is in this movie.
I saw terrible things on the security tapes
I saw Himmler...
Leading Younglings...
@@LeviForWaifu
"No... No, not Himmler... He wouldn't!"
“Luke, did I ever tell you about Felix Steiner? He was an ss General during the Second World War. He had one job, to launch a counter attack to break the Soviet encirclement of Berlin. Instead he decided to call in and just say he wouldn’t. Didn’t even have the courage to tell me face to face. Really sent me into a rage when I learned, told everyone I was going to eat a gun.
And he was a good friend.”
Obi-Wan has turned to the Dark Side, with Emilo Largo at his side.
Steiner - he was a cunning warrior … and he was a good friend.
And then Fegelein seduced him to the Dark Side.
Luke Steinvolken!
Steiner’s attack succeeded… from a certain point of view.
@allisterbernal5954
''From my point of view the Allies are evil!''
Ah there is nothing like reminiscing with Obi Wadolf Kenobitler.
Wrong fandom.
Adolfi Hit Kenobler: "Militry Academies. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy!"
"What I should've done is liquidate all the high-ranking officers, like VADER!"
I can’t hear Jodl without thinking “I corrected them.”
Kubrick used him in 3 movies; father of Alex in Clockwork, Grady in The Shining and just as an extra in the very last scene of Eyes Wide Shit
@@urkersen5246 Also in Barry Lyndon
He's also Captain Blumburtt in Temple of Doom.
Meanwhile, Krebs is Emile Largo from Thunderball, Keitel's Bond's father in law from On Her Majesty's and Burgdof gets shot in the head by Danny Glover after shouting 'Diplomatic Immunity!'
"It's just been revoked!"
One more thing to mark off my "weird things I've seen on the Internet today" list
😂
"These are not the divisions you are looking for..."
@TNStormSpotter “You will give me your scientists…”
Who said this
Alec Guinness has way too distinctive a voice to be a convincing Hitler.
That said, he does a damn good acting job.
His performance was good enough for me to overlook his voice.
Yep. It's distracting. Of course, not exactly Sir Alec's fault for having made his own voice instantly recognizable.
@@abc64pan
That voice was exactly similiar to Hitler.
Hitler's voice was as deep as Darth Vaders. Theres a recording of his voice, its uploaded in UA-cam. You can try to look it up.
I think he should have skipped this one.
He was the best!!
Who knew Obi Wan could commit such atrocities to the world
Hitler: “Execute Order 66”
Generals: “NO”
I can’t even imagine what the actual hitler rant was really like.
Probably worse with some smacks upside the head to Krebs
There was probably a lot of hushed snickering and pantomiming because they were putting on a fake show, knowing they were all escaping to South America and faking Hitler’s death.
went on for about half an hour.
He had halitosis so not very pleasant
@@SpaceTravel1776 lol
Stalin: "It's over Hitler! I have the high ground!"
Hitler: "You underestimate my power!"
Stalin: "....don't try it...."
"You were my brother, Adolf. I loved you.."
Ah yes, Obi-Wan being a dictator like his apprentice before him
The fact that the dialogue here is nearly word for word the same as in _The Downfall_ there must be a great deal of certainty that this is how it played out.
All of the survivors were interviewed afterward, and based on their accounts, we have a pretty good idea. Some of the people who were in the bunker were giving interviews into the 2000s.
I wonder if the director of "Downfall" watched this film and based his own depiction of Hitler's rant on it.
It is my thinking also he may have.
Jackson Rushing
It’s a clear copy lol
@@MichaelJ44 no they just had different versions of what actually happened
They're both based on the same account. The outburst seems to have actually happened.
"A lot of it was sourced from the survivors, a few of whom are depicted in the movie. Traudl Junge (Hitler's secretary) being a major source."
@@basedeltazero714 Cheers.
It's actually scary how much Alec Guinness has the same physical features as Hitler in this scene.
Exactly what i was thinking. This may be the best Hitler in movies and all forms of media (in terms of of looks) i ever seen.
@@gordusmaximus4990 Watch the final scene of "The Bunker". 80s made for TV film. Anthony Hopkins has ALL of the gestures of Hitler making one of his speeches. UA-cam used to have it but was removed because "it violates our policy on hate speech". So, someone posted the whole film!
Indeed. Similarities are huge!
@@billd3356 That doesnt surpise me that YT removed it...
@@whoyoucallinpinhead3523 Start at the 2:28 mark. You will see Hitler, not Hopkiins. Hitler.ua-cam.com/video/DpH9lXP0DW0/v-deo.html
Hitler to the advancing allies: "These are not the high ranking Nazi party members you are looking for" 👋
Obi Wan Hitler: "This is not the Berlin you're looking for."
Zhukov: "This is not the Berlin we're looking for."
Use the force, Steiner.
People wondering if Downfall was a remake of this. Read the SS transcripts, this is slightly more accurate in what Hitler said, but I think the actor was better in the German film.
Bruno Ganz nailed the gestures and of course, the speech, but Guinness in this movie resembles Hitler in appearance a little more.
Bruno ganz and Alec Guinness both did a good job playing Hitler but Bruno's outburst of learning of Steiner's failed attack was pure gold.
I wonder if its possible that in real life Hitler did no lose his temper and started ranting but simply cried. Then when realising this will end up in the history books he made his close associates promise they will state that he started ranting like a lunatic. Hitler was image councious a sad Hitler would tarnish his postwar image a lot more than an enraged one. At the same time all the guys close to him were commited nazis. Is it possible they intentionally gave a false report about Hitler afterwards to maintain his mythical larger than life image? Hitler was aware of the historical importance of his final hours is it possible he intentionally tailored it in such a way as to maintain his tough guy myth?🤔 Ultimately we have no recording of this just accounts and records but those can be doctored.
@@florinivan6907 Nah, imagine that you’ve just been told that everything you’ve ever done or achieved is quickly being undone by those around you, and that you know there’s no way out. You would be angry and rant too. Then there would be a sadness that overcomes it afterwards when you realize that everything is futile and simply are done.
While the transcripts were closer to this portrayal.. I think Ganz was going for the mental collapse that Hitler was going through.. this portrayal seemed more controlled than what I imagined Hitler was going through... Ganz nailed that portion of it
Imagine having this meeting over Zoom during the lockdown.
With your trousers down like Witzleben
I'd just quietly leave the meeting and listen to some music.
He can lock the doors behind him in a physical meeting, but even if he succeeds in locking me into that zoom meeting, I can just turn the volume down and minimise the screen, then play minesweeper or solitaire.
Nothing he said was particularly constructive or accurate or worth listening to anyway, so I'll just ask for the key points from others after the meeting.
"FEGELEIN!! UN-MUTE ME, DAMNIT!!"
adolf the kind of guy who's mic just kinda fades out because he's screaming too much
Imagine one of them pulling a Jeffrey toobin during it 🤣
Emilio Largo (Adolfo Celi, 007: Thunderball), Obi-Wan Kenobi (Alec Guinness, SWIV: A New Hope), Arjen Rudd (Joss Ackland, Lethal Weapon 2), Delbert Grady (Philip Stone, The Shining) and Winston Churchill (Simon Ward, Young Winston). The star power here is incredible.
“If the Soviets strike me down I shall become more powerful than they can possibly imagine”
2:22 "You were the Chosen One! It was said that you would destroy the Allies, not join them! Bring balance to the Reich, not leave it in darkness!"
How ironic. The People chose Hitler to be their Messiah, only for their own people to turn on them.
@@usamazahid3882 That is what happens when you promise the Earth and deliver a handful of dirt.
Probably what Hitler said about Himmler... Deleted scene. 😂
I doubt the Nazis referred to their enemies as the “Allies.”
He didn't use the pencil of doom...smh
John Wick could have saved the Reich with a pencil.
Like the Chief and Agent 86 of CONTROL, Hitler and his individual generals should have used the Cone of Silence.
Nah. He used the Phone of Doom.
"You fought in the Clone Wars?"
"Uhhhh... yeah"
Luke: So what did you do during the Clone Wars.
Obi-Wan: Uh... I was a space wizard like your father.
This scene needs German subtitles and needs to be parodied and put in Hitler Rants.
1:54 Palpatine in an alternate reality, where the Clones denied Order 66.
Never thought someday I would see Obi Wan acting as Palpatine.
Where obi wan was the sith lord infiltrater instead of Darth Sidious
I actually had that happen in a game of Clone Wars Risk. Half the clones refused Order 66, and they instead stayed loyal to their Jedi commanders. They then staged a massive attack on Coruscant with all their fleets and clone armies to dislodge Palpatine from the throne, and won the day. That version of the Clone Wars ended with a civil war in the Clone Army where the Jedi-led clones won, and Palpatine was decapitated by the Jedi in front of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant after a show trial where he was found guilty of a laundry-list of crimes.
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2:28 I was waiting for Hitler to say Fegelein!!!!!
"You can't win, Stalin. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"
In the early 70s, there was still a tendency to overplay Hitler to the point at which it approached caricature. Guinness's portrayal here was a classic interpretation, but lacks the sense of immersion that Ganz brings nearly 30 years later. It's how what we learn about a historical figure changes how that person is portrayed - in _Downfall_ , Hitler is slouched, his left arm and hand withered and trembing as he removes his glasses in initial reaction to the news about Steiner. In that one gesture from a frail man, we see how neither time nor circumstance was going to acknowledge his greatness, but we still fear the last burst of rage and charisma that follows.
"...but we still fear the last burst of rage and charisma that follows." Yeah, especially when you're in the same room.
the hand shaking in downfall is ridiculous. this is much more realistic.
@@concernedparent84 hitlers hand did shake uncontrollably towards the end of the war though
@@concernedparent84 He was on a lot of drugs
I originally thought the hand shaking was from anger, but apparently it was actually a symptom of Parkinson's disease. Indeed as someone who had a loved one who suffered from that same disease it looks at least pretty similar. Also that's not the only time it's shown shaking like that in Downfall either.
Really apart from Bruno Ganz the only realistic Hitler ever played. All others are cartoons. I believe these two men really understood Hitler (the man- the human being). There is ample first hand observations of him. Excellent job.
This Hitler actor also looks identical/similar to Hitler. But I agree with you.
there is no lady crying scene here though 😄
The downfall one was good too
Downfall one was better
Derek Jacoby was excellent in "Inside The Third Reich".
So that's where Obi-Wan Kenobi went during his exile.
Obiwan, is that you? You've turned to the dark side.
- My Fuhrer! This is historical moment!
- I know, we are going to make an ultimate internet meme, which would be re-played for centuries in different versions!
"Das war ein befehl!"
Der Angriff Steiners war ein Befehl!
FEGELEIN!!!
(Befehl) is an abstract noun, don`t forget the captial (B)
Hey dolfy, watcha planning?
-jodl
@@javiercs006 ''Wer sind Sie, dass Sie es wagen, sich meinen Befehlen zu widersetzen!''
Damn. Obi-Wan really went to the dark side in this one.
Obi Wan needs to wield the Pencil of Doom.
It's amazing that with all the actors in history who portrayed Hitler; Alec really did look like him.
True though
Sounded like him too, Hitler’s everyday voice was deep and hollow, like his
Too young looking for this final phase of his life.
Have you seen Bruno Ganz's portrayal in Downfall?
@@drott150 even his posture
And it looks like he didn't have Parkinson disease
2:05 Sir Alec Guiness was a great actor, but really, his delivery of the line "An order of mine has not been executed!" simply doesn't have the same hmph as "Das war ein Befehl!" by Bruno Ganz.
But from a certain point of view, this was also compelling to watch. If we didn't have "Der Untergang" to compare this with, we'd be praising it a bit more.
"a certain point of view", i see what you did there. lol
@@LadyFairChildVideo came here to point that out lol
That's my sentiment as well! Alec Guiness looks the best as Hitler, but Ganz does the best in acting the part!
I'm taking the high ground
You nailed it, sir. His performance was good given this was from '73.
When general Kenobi learn Cody didn't attack
You promised me mountain yet preformed molehill
When you think about it, Alec Guinness does die a lot in movies, regardless whether he plays hero or villain...
I consider Downfall to be the gold standard of Hitler's last days, but Guinness did resemble Hitler more than Bruno Ganz.
@Alex From Boston like he just got back from vacation in Cornwall.🤣
I agree to an extent but also disagree, Guiness looked more like Hitler how we usually imagine him, the facial features, the eyes everything about Guiness looks like Hitler how he was in 33, but he did didn't look like how we'd expect someone who's in the process of losing the biggest war in history, to look like. (He simply looks too fit and healthy, Hitler by that time was heavy addict and on the verge of insanity)
Ganz on the other hand perfectly captured an old, frail dictator ravaged by war and drugs, slowly declining into madness.
In my opinion both look extremely like the actual Hitler, but Ganz simply looks more like how I'd expect Hitler to look in the last losing days of the war, drugged to the gills and declining further and further.
@Alex From Boston Indubitably !
@@jurassicpeterGuinness looks more.like Hitler during the first years of the war, while Ganz looks more like Hitler the week before he took his life.
"The more I learn about this guy, the more I don't care for him."
- Norm MacDonald (rip)
what the fuck, Norm died?
"Or so the Germans would have us believe..." 😜
@@LJMaxwellDaKilla2007Z I didn't even know he was sick!
People give Hitler shit, but at least he wasn't a hypocrite
@@66kaisersoza Hitler will be re evalued in the future
“If you break your legs, it’s hard to cook orangutan.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! How have I not seen that before now?! That's hilarious! Thank you!
Jeez Obi Wan. Just use the force!
The Bunker Ambient sounds a lot like the first Death Star.
when Obi Wan becomes Palpatine
"Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Hitler. Your sad devotion to that ancient hocus from Raiders of the Lost Ark has not helped you conjure up replacement Wehrmacht corps or Luftwaffe divisions, or given you clairvoyance enough to find Kurosawa's Hidden Fortr....." (sounds of choking and gasping)
@@BrucknerMotet "I find your lack of faith of the High ground of National Socialism disturbing."
@@cripplehawk Grand Moff Fegelein: "Enough of this. Lord Hitler, release him; all this bickering is pointless."
@@starguy2718 *H-Man:* "As you wis- Ein moment. Ich bin der Fuhrer!!! Ich wurde wieder einmal ausgetrickst!!!!!"
FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN!"
Help me Stiener Kenobi you're my only hope.
Everybody gangsta till someone asks where Obi Wan was between 1933 and 1945
These people are to remain. Tarkin, Thrawn and Cody.
Too bad the three weren't Larry, Moe and Curly. A little comedy relief at this point in the movie would be most welcome.
General Grievous: Hello There. Wait a minute, have we met before?
Adolph Hitler: In another time.
"Kenobi... you were into Imperial stuff in the end as I suspected" - Lord Vader
The first general talking is the butler from the shining
Stalin: "I've been waiting for you Adolph. We meet again. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but a learner, now I am the master!"
Adolph: "Only a master of evil, Stalin!:
Golden especially how each of them considered himself a hero and the other one a devil despite being so similar to one another
"He's a very willful boy isn't he Mr Torrance?"
That's strange, sir - I have no recollection of those crimes against humanity at all!
Ha ! I recognized that actor (Phlip Stone) playing German officer (Gen. Jodl) as the one who appeared as "Grady" the caretaker in the 1980s version of "The Shining".
@@inspectortanzi Ha !
@@jubalcalif9100 He also played Alexander DeLarge's father in Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange."
Now, Jodl, its your time to be corrected...
Scary how much Guinness actually looks like Hitler here...
And Hitler has gone underground where he'd secretly trained Luke in the ways of the Force.
What??!! I didn't know Mr.Delbert Grady used to work under Hitlar, before working as a caretaker at overlook hotel.😳
You are the caretaker, Mr.Torrance. You've always been the caretaker.
I was scrolling looking to see if someone noticed this!! The General to Hitlers left with the silver hair is Italian actor Adolfo Celi who also played Emilio Largo, SPECTREs Number 2 and the villain from the 1965 Sean Connery 007 film Thunderball
He’s suggesting the fuhrer “correct” Steiner. 😂
No wonder he used the N-word. He's a Nazi.
"These are not the stormtroopers you are looking for."
Man his gestures were on point. This was brilliant acting. The way he moved his arms and hands is what I imagined hitler would do in this situation.
man star wars took a weird turn
Classic! "You've spent years in military academies and all you've learned how to do is hold a knife and fork!"
Counts for the all that became a Dutch General, after Shell Queen Beatrix got in Power (1980).
She ( her advisers) concluded that if the Dutch Army have way too much Generals, the chance of a Military Coup would be way less possible.
And see how they installed a Piano Playing Commander at Srebrenica..
Dutch Army got more Retired Generals than Life Ammo for practice !.
The line about the knife and fork was in Downfall too I think. So Hitler probably really said something like that.
@@darth856 And people say only the Americans dropped nukes....
"...while I conquered all of Europe..."
It seems like the sort of common sentiment an enlisted man might have against officers.
This Bormann actually looks like the real Bormann!
I noticed too
And Jodl wasn't hairless either lol
Yes, that stopped me, too.
Yes, this boringman is more realistic
tno refe
1:49
Bro literally closed the door to take his comfort in yelling at them. Hitler in Downfull didn't do that ☠
He's gonna really lose his shit when Obi-Wan finds out about Fegelien. :P
Somewhere in Hell, Hitler is Screaming at Every Actor that's ever played him.
NEIN NEIN NEIN YOU DIDNT GET ZE PARKINSONS RIGHT
YAAAAAAAAAAAAA
nah actor from downfall was amazing, this clip is terrible
With all those Hitler Rant Parodies out there, Dolfy is going to be busy for quite a while.
@@borges3099 It's not terrible at all. It's just weird that it's played with English accents. The acting is great and Alec Guiness looks convincingly like Hitler.
2:10 Everybody betrayed me! I'm fed up with this world!
Nice Tommy Wiseau joke
I DID NOT ATTACK POLAND THIS IS BULLSHIT......i did not.
@@landeny65 Oh Hi Soviets
“All of my generals are cowards and chickens! Chip chip chip”
I can never get tired of seeing this movie , it's been in my collection since 1990 . Brings back enjoyable memories with my father. " 👨👩👦📺
The physical resemblance is uncanny.
Alec Guinness was a great actor but Bruno Ganz was at a different level in Downfall. It is amazing to think how long the German's kept fighting. Long after they were beaten.
Not exactly amazing but a waste of life. It was a war propagated by selfish evil men and squeezed the life out of all able bodied men until they were spent, all for these few evil men.
@@weasle2904 that's the dumbest take I've ever heard
@@tonycaniggia huh? Were the Nazis not evil men? lol
@@weasle2904 no. Allied were and still are, everything you think you know about "nazis" you have heard from those who hate European race and those who wanted to disguise their own crimes and point finger at the losers of WWII
@@tonycaniggia youre crazy, they killed people systemically based on race without remorse. Pure hatred and evil.
This the moment when Obi Wan becomes Ben Kenobi
Obi wan went to many lenghts to hide his identity from the empire
Alexander DeLarge’s father is such a great actor, on par with Guinness. Pity we didn’t see him in more things.
"My generals are traitors! You will pay with your blood!"
"Damn fool, I knew you were going to say that!"
"Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"
@@Milordvega *"Wookie talk"*
All Steiner had to do was attack.
It was literally a suicide attack, he had no chance
He should have used the force
And it would end up being a bloodbath for Steiner's troops. Steiner knew well before that the war was lost.
@@whitezombie10 And yet it could have altered the course of the war.
@@cedricliggins7528
No. It wouldn't have. That's the whole point. Steiner had a tiny ragtag detachment of men and kids going up against a hardened force of 2.5+ million Soviet soldiers and 6,750 tanks. They would have all died and their loss would have meant nothing. That's why Steiner turned around and dipped.
Darth Vader be like:
Obi Wan Kenobi Finally turned to the dark side of the force
It's like the real Hitler trying to act as British as possible
Can we have a Downfall meme?
But we have Downfall at home.
Downfall at home:
now you begin to appreciate the genius of Bruno Ganz...
This one is allright but feels real bootleg compared to the german "remake"
Not really, Hitler in his final days didn't have the energy to be exploding at people and ranting all the time.
The older I get, the more I appreciate this one for being pretty great for what it is.
No one can deny that Bruno Ganz watched Alec Guinness' a few times or more.
"The force will be with you....always...."
I think for many of us who really enjoy these performances of the last days of Hitler, Bruno Ganz in Downfall is no doubt the gold standard, and with good justification. His performance is ultimately more realistic for several reasons. But I'll say this - I've been cycling between this performance by Guinness and Ganz's numerous times this evening, comparing the two. When I first saw Guinness do this years ago, I thought it was parody-like and weak. As others have said, his distinctive English accent alone makes certain parts downright painful to hear. However, rewatching numerous times tonight, it has really grown on me. He undeniably did an excellent job.
Again as has already been stated by others here, his resemblance to Hitler in this performance is damned impressive and uncanny. Although I ultimately find myself wanting to mix this scene's script with what Ganz did, there are key lines that Guinness performs which, IMHO, are more realistic to what likely was said by Hitler during his tirade in the bunker. (I'll admit that given the tiredness of Hitler by that point, Downfall's shorter length of Hitler's tirade is likely more accurate. But I feel like everything Guinness went into during his version - recounting the executed general's trousers falling down as he hung by piano wire off a meat hook, the traitors "drowning in their own blood" (as Guinness seems to simultaneously choke up with effect), shouting that "You'll be the ruin of me, and the ruin of the German people!" as Guinness crosses his arms over his chest, a move so characteristic of an empassioned Hitler - sound extremely fitting and likely.) And those lines are part of a longer total length of rage, timewise, than Ganz displays, which is satisfying to watch. Ganz is enraged pretty much the whole time, but even though Guinness has more periods of relative calmness, he still has more rage lengthwise. And that rage is always on display, while in Downfall they're always cutting to the reactions of those outside the bunker, which has its pluses and minuses for me.
I also liked that, in this version, the general takes the time to explain, in detail, why Steiner halted his attack before Hitler chews them out. It lends more realism to Hitler's irrationality and harshness. In Downfall, the generals break the news about Steiner in an extremely brief manner. In that script, one begins, then pauses for dramatic effect, and the second finishes off with just a few more words saying Steiner didn't attack.
Ganz's attire and worn facial features are more appropriate, truly conveying the mood of the title "Downfall" and the events portrayed. I love how Ganz shakes his hand with Parkinson's as he removes his glasses after receiving the news, lending not only realism, but tension and a sense of building rage, of the storm clouds rolling in as he so quietly, like the beginning of a number of Hitler's speeches, orders the four generals and Bormann to remain. And I do not like that Guinness cries toward the end (I do not find that likely to have happened at all), and that he simply states "I must kill myself" (which sounds ridiculous compared to the way Ganz indirectly but forcefully puts it) - these take away from the scene overall.
Lastly, I like how Ganz barks out that he should have had all senior officers executed like Stalin did! Again, very believable. While Hitler hated his enemies, he was not guilty of being unwilling or unable to appreciate their strengths, at least as he perceived them.
However, upon this repeated rewatching I've done, I definitely think this performance by Guinness holds water and more. If one can manage to get past the absurdity of the last days of Hitler reenacted in English accents, it is quite, quite good indeed.
Hitler didnt die in a bunker. Otherwise very on point.
When you actually listen to Hitle'rs real voice in speeches its astonishing how close Guinness got to it whilst speaking a different language.