You were that kid at school who had to touch everything! Great to watch this process. I’d love to see the pulverised material under the microscope because the separation of metal and plastic would be interesting. Great work
Hi ! ✋️ I like the method of grinding and separating with water, there are plenty of good plans to avoid breaking the bank or wasting a lot of time stripping. keep up the videos like this one, it's great!!!💪💪
yes, I ran that machine for about 30 minutes in total in this video. I live in Florida with about 13 cents per kWh. The machine is rated for about 2200 kWh. I've used maybe about 30 cents in electricity for that 30 min of runtime.
The wash water will be pretty full with micro plastics and particles, with pcbs you will get more cemicals in it also .do you discard it into the suer,? The micro plastics can be hard to separate out in the suer treatment plant. The pcbs often have flame retardant chemicals on them ,this is seriously not good to pour out in the suer If you plan on doing this at any scale with pcbs and stuff i would sudgest reusing the washing fluid ,to decrease Particles and chemical pollution. The fluids and waste powder should be treadred like dangerous waste When they are finely disgarded. If you evaporate the water all The chemicals could possibly be left in the sludge?
Ignore all the naysayers because I'm sure their copper wash plant is far more functional than yours! Question for you? I guess the theory is that the water helps to float away the plastic insulation that was coating the wires. Do you think that the very fine grind you have taken the copper wires to might also help to carry away the copper that can't dislodge itself from the insulation??? I guess I am wondering if there is an optimal particular grind size that helps to pull the copper from the insulation that offers a higher yield from the insulation? Thanks for taking the time to post your methods and the results.
Some copper does stay tingled with insulation and floats away resulting in loss. I'm trying to balance between time spent and loss. I think in my other video I do run copper grindings a second time to untangle as much as I can. Overall I think it's about under 5% copper loss with one time grind, and maybe 2-3% loss with grinding twice in total. So, the second grind might not be worth it at all, but it does help slightly with untangling the copper from the insulation. The more finer the grind is the better copper recovery you'll get.
Thanks for the video, especially the hammer-mill link! Have you ever tried a wet shaker table, as used for gold? Mount Baker Mining and Metals on UA-cam has a few, even a video of their running copper chops and chopper waste, so you can see the results. How about a dry air classifying table?
I research a lot in that category, shaker tables, air and gravity separators. They are either too expensive or non existent the ones that I wanted. I can't find anything that's affordable or compact, but I'm working on DYI of my own system. It is going to be air vacuum dry separation, I might do a video on it ones I improve it.
@@MetalScrapLab I've been looking at them for a while, the dry air/vacuum classifiers. The most common I have seen is where the metal and plastic have a separatiion line on the table, and the metal moves toward the top, while the plastic migrates to the lower end. I'll send you a couple of links in a minute, as sometimes my comments get deleted, and I at least want you to know I am sending you something :)
another one on close-up of a table shows table material pretty clearly: ua-cam.com/video/FdmcMrvns8I/v-deo.html You might contact them, Cable Management for some scrap table material. They might help you out! Some place sell replacement material, if you had to buy anything. Also, DC motors can easily be variable speed, if you use say, a car defroster blower and custom adjust the speed! A "three diverter valve", or a tee with a damper in it, can adjust blower or vacuum too. I'd love to see what you come up with!!!
@@CuriousEarthMan The green Chinese one I've seen before in very similar designs but they cost about $4k I asked their customer service, they are nice, maybe one day I'll get one, but the other bigger ones are completely unaffordable and unnecessarily huge.
I got it from amazon. The links are in the description. They did change the product, I just checked. It's not the same one anymore. Mine is more powerful.
You were that kid at school who had to touch everything! Great to watch this process. I’d love to see the pulverised material under the microscope because the separation of metal and plastic would be interesting. Great work
Seems like a lot of work just for that little bit of copper
Yes it is. It was a small sample for an experiment, but I might do video on a bigger scale maybe 30 lb of wire.
Hi ! ✋️ I like the method of grinding and separating with water, there are plenty of good plans to avoid breaking the bank or wasting a lot of time stripping. keep up the videos like this one, it's great!!!💪💪
How many kg of copper it take to buy those machines
Wat hing your videos is like watching paint dry. Less show and more go.
question, the amount of Copper gotten after finished, out weight the cost of the Electricity used to run the Machinery ?
yes, I ran that machine for about 30 minutes in total in this video. I live in Florida with about 13 cents per kWh. The machine is rated for about 2200 kWh. I've used maybe about 30 cents in electricity for that 30 min of runtime.
Paper shredders work well u can beef up the motor so they last a little longer
It's interesting and all but all that work for some copper? I'm assuming you enjoy the process cause can see that being worth the effort
Interesting video and equipment
The wash water will be pretty full with micro plastics and particles, with pcbs you will get more cemicals in it also .do you discard it into the suer,? The micro plastics can be hard to separate out in the suer treatment plant.
The pcbs often have flame retardant chemicals on them ,this is seriously not good to pour out in the suer
If you plan on doing this at any scale with pcbs and stuff i would sudgest reusing the washing fluid ,to decrease
Particles and chemical pollution. The fluids and waste powder should be treadred like dangerous waste
When they are finely disgarded.
If you evaporate the water all
The chemicals could possibly be left in the sludge?
What's the brand or model number of that shiftomatic shaker thing?
It doesn't have the model number or the brand but it's sold by Sidasu.
Ignore all the naysayers because I'm sure their copper wash plant is far more functional than yours!
Question for you? I guess the theory is that the water helps to float away the plastic insulation that was coating the wires. Do you think that the very fine grind you have taken the copper wires to might also help to carry away the copper that can't dislodge itself from the insulation??? I guess I am wondering if there is an optimal particular grind size that helps to pull the copper from the insulation that offers a higher yield from the insulation? Thanks for taking the time to post your methods and the results.
Some copper does stay tingled with insulation and floats away resulting in loss. I'm trying to balance between time spent and loss. I think in my other video I do run copper grindings a second time to untangle as much as I can. Overall I think it's about under 5% copper loss with one time grind, and maybe 2-3% loss with grinding twice in total. So, the second grind might not be worth it at all, but it does help slightly with untangling the copper from the insulation. The more finer the grind is the better copper recovery you'll get.
Interesting, time and efforts toget the copper out vs actual value?
Might be better off smelting w flux to free up the coper...😊
I'm trying to avoid burning anything, but I do want to get a smelter
Thanks for the video, especially the hammer-mill link! Have you ever tried a wet shaker table, as used for gold? Mount Baker Mining and Metals on UA-cam has a few, even a video of their running copper chops and chopper waste, so you can see the results. How about a dry air classifying table?
I research a lot in that category, shaker tables, air and gravity separators. They are either too expensive or non existent the ones that I wanted. I can't find anything that's affordable or compact, but I'm working on DYI of my own system. It is going to be air vacuum dry separation, I might do a video on it ones I improve it.
@@MetalScrapLab I've been looking at them for a while, the dry air/vacuum classifiers. The most common I have seen is where the metal and plastic have a separatiion line on the table, and the metal moves toward the top, while the plastic migrates to the lower end. I'll send you a couple of links in a minute, as sometimes my comments get deleted, and I at least want you to know I am sending you something :)
so here's another reply. This link shows great plastic/metal separation at around 2:00 : ua-cam.com/video/g-e0lmNctDg/v-deo.html
another one on close-up of a table shows table material pretty clearly: ua-cam.com/video/FdmcMrvns8I/v-deo.html You might contact them, Cable Management for some scrap table material. They might help you out! Some place sell replacement material, if you had to buy anything. Also, DC motors can easily be variable speed, if you use say, a car defroster blower and custom adjust the speed! A "three diverter valve", or a tee with a damper in it, can adjust blower or vacuum too. I'd love to see what you come up with!!!
@@CuriousEarthMan The green Chinese one I've seen before in very similar designs but they cost about $4k I asked their customer service, they are nice, maybe one day I'll get one, but the other bigger ones are completely unaffordable and unnecessarily huge.
Hola donde compro esa maquina
Have you tried just dissolving the copper with sa, poor mans nitric? May be cost effective ??
What is the pulverizer machine and where did you get it
I got it from amazon. The links are in the description. They did change the product, I just checked. It's not the same one anymore. Mine is more powerful.
I just updated the link. The product name is DF-40S.
thats a few hours off you life you will never get back
Price
What happened to the insulation
also pulverized
Tarifs des 2 machines...?
Next up, BGA tops and gold bond wires!
I will be playing with different types of PCB components in my future videos.
Looks like your just grindong copper into powder for fun
Yes it's a lot of fun.
We meet again lol
A lot of FAF for such little rewards you must like playing with it as its tedious
All that effort for $4
I will be using this process for mostly PCB components for gold recovery, but for copper wire, it is a lot of work.
NOT
Guess how i can tell this thing is a POS....
Where did you get those Machines from please
I got mine from amazon, but you also can get them from ebay, the name of the machine in description.