Recovering Silver and Copper

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  • Опубліковано 4 лют 2025
  • This is a second part to my video from the gold refining. In this video I refine and recover silver and copper from the leftover waste from my previous gold refining video.

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  • @John-ir2zf
    @John-ir2zf Рік тому +12

    I see a lot of people use those "bent to broken" copper pipes to pull silver out.
    But remember, the solution reacts with BOTH sides of the pipe, outside and inside.
    The precipitated silver falls off of the outside of the pipe, but when it falls off of the inside of the pipes, it can get trapped in the pinched off ends.
    I usually bend to break the pipe, then take a hammer to the pinched ends to open them up a little so the precipitated silver on the inside of the pipes will fall out.

  • @bri0013
    @bri0013 3 роки тому +3

    Live n let diiiiiiiiieee great song. Enjoyed the video

  • @JustJeff62
    @JustJeff62 2 роки тому +6

    New sub here. Awesome video! Would love to see more silver and gold refining! Thank you for the video!

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 роки тому +2

      I will be posting more soon thanks a lot.

    • @JustJeff62
      @JustJeff62 2 роки тому +2

      @@jandlcrafting1332 Awesome!!! Looking forward to any new videos!

  • @GiepersLab
    @GiepersLab 17 днів тому

    very cool video.
    I like your videos. Thank you.

  • @SPACE_MINER
    @SPACE_MINER Рік тому +4

    Thank you... I'd love to see more of these...

  • @10xitall
    @10xitall 14 днів тому

    Great video!!!

  • @simeonreyesjr.2987
    @simeonreyesjr.2987 Рік тому +5

    thanx for sharing your sir about extracting silver and copper from a solution.. very educational and easy..

  • @10xitall
    @10xitall 14 днів тому +1

    What material did you initially process to get the gold, silver, and copper?

  • @scrapman502
    @scrapman502 7 місяців тому +1

    How did you get all the silver out of the inside of the pipes? You put in copper pipes with the ends nearly pinched off, so any silver nitrate that got into the pipes cemented out and became stuck inside the pipe. Using a pipe cutter to cut the pipes is preferable to just bending the pipes until they break.

  • @10xitall
    @10xitall 14 днів тому

    Love the video!! What type of respirator cartridges are you using here?

  • @TheAxeljones2012
    @TheAxeljones2012 Рік тому +1

    congratulations!!

  • @ismailhakkkaratepe8161
    @ismailhakkkaratepe8161 Рік тому +2

    Very good furnace (electrical). where can we buy it?

  • @Akil-Kaze
    @Akil-Kaze Рік тому +2

    This is wonderful

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  Рік тому +1

      Thanks

    • @firefox2716
      @firefox2716 Рік тому +1

      @@jandlcrafting1332 Hello Great Videos. Question ? How do I remove copper ions out of my gold chloride ions liquid solution ? Thank you

  • @atcn1956
    @atcn1956 6 місяців тому

    Sensacional. Simples, prático e eficiente. Parabéns

  • @drootown
    @drootown 3 роки тому +17

    When the silver comes out of solution and covers the copper it can stall the reaction. The silver coating will block the silver nitrate from getting to the copper and prevents further silver from cementing out. Instead of pulling out the remaining copper, filtering it and moving on I would have shaken the copper pieces periodically to expose the bare copper and allowed more silver to cement out. I’m pretty sure you didn’t get all of the silver out of solution.

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  3 роки тому +4

      Ok cool. Thanks for the advice.

    • @vigneshs4033
      @vigneshs4033 2 роки тому

      Copper process before use HCL acid
      Take the silver chloride after out put solutions u add copper plat
      Then you see
      But urea mixed definitely

    • @brandonzidzik
      @brandonzidzik Рік тому +4

      ​what

    • @ItsKnotBread
      @ItsKnotBread Рік тому +1

      ​@brandonzidzik, that's what I said!

    • @BlackKnight-th8ml
      @BlackKnight-th8ml Рік тому

      ​@@jandlcrafting1332how harmful is this reaction and also i saw that this reaction creates nitrogen gas but where is it

  • @ThorsOdinson
    @ThorsOdinson Рік тому

    Great video, thanks for that. Would it make sense to rinse the silver powder again in hydrochloric acid after filtering and then with distilled water to wash out all impurities?

  • @SyedMahmood-xt6ze
    @SyedMahmood-xt6ze Рік тому

    Dear friend to get Palladium if formic acid is not available, can you use hydrochloric acid instead?

  • @markflores9055
    @markflores9055 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you

  • @10xitall
    @10xitall 14 днів тому

    I'm assuming this was waste nitric acid from a gold recovery/refine?

  • @seanweiss6729
    @seanweiss6729 Рік тому +1

    Can cooper wire be used to get the silver out?

  • @MastiTime-re8lg
    @MastiTime-re8lg 4 місяці тому

    What we do after, for the left over green liquid

  • @giannitriossi2250
    @giannitriossi2250 Рік тому +1

    Good morning, what acidity is recommended for the best reaction,,,,,,,,Buongiorno, che acidità è consigliata per la reazione migliore

  • @mdspiritualchannel1036
    @mdspiritualchannel1036 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharing this video

  • @alexafa316
    @alexafa316 Рік тому

    I'm so fascinated with chemistry that's is fun and can make some money from old copper pipes

  • @jerukpecel-p4v
    @jerukpecel-p4v 4 місяці тому

    Where the gold came from

  • @franchi8601
    @franchi8601 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this video. Very easy process of metal separation. What kind of solution are you using to dissolve gold, silver, copper? Ex: nitric acid, or sodium nitrate and HCL, or sodium nitrate and sulfuric acid?

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 роки тому +2

      I normally just use aqua regia. Nitric acid and HCL. 👍

    • @franchi8601
      @franchi8601 2 роки тому

      @@jandlcrafting1332 Thanks, your advice helps me alot.

    • @franchi8601
      @franchi8601 2 роки тому +2

      @@jandlcrafting1332 how do you drop gold in aqua regia solution, what metal do you use to drop gold?

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 роки тому +1

      Any metals higher on the reactivity series of metals such as copper 👍

  • @tahaaliakbarkhani9647
    @tahaaliakbarkhani9647 2 роки тому +1

    Engineer, I had a question. Please help me. What acid does silver sulfide dissolve in so that I can extract it from the rock? How should I convert silver sulfide to silver metal? 🙏🙏🙏

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 роки тому

      You can dissolve silver sulfate in household ammonia. Then precipitate pure metal with hydroxylamine sulfate 👍

    • @tahaaliakbarkhani9647
      @tahaaliakbarkhani9647 2 роки тому

      @@jandlcrafting1332 Dear friend, I have silver sulfide, not silver sulfate. What should I use to extract silver sulfide???🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌺🌺

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 роки тому +1

      Silver sulfide should be soluble in either nitric acid or sulfuric acid. From that point on you can use the method in my video using hydrochloric acid or salt👍

    • @tahaaliakbarkhani9647
      @tahaaliakbarkhani9647 2 роки тому

      Hello Professor, silver sulfide does not dissolve in nitric acid and hydrochloric acid, and I did not understand the solution, please tell me in which acid to dissolve silver sulfide and with what to precipitate it, please

    • @ryans3442
      @ryans3442 Рік тому

      Sulfides are roasted in air to produce so2+silver

  • @temesgentenaw3308
    @temesgentenaw3308 2 роки тому +1

    EXCELLENT.hey sir am working by photo chemical waste but wanna work more in quantity meant that wanna get other chemical rather cu.What do u think that I will try first the photo chemical waste precipitated by nas then add cu...is it really good way.

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much. I’m not sure what you mean by Nas. You mean North American steel? What ever you put in, any metal higher on the reactivity series of metals will precipitate out of solution. 👍

  • @CaptainRadack
    @CaptainRadack 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for this! I am using 45% vinegar with Hydrogen Peroxide and some salt to remove gold from computer parts. As I am new to this can I extract the silver the same way and use a steel bar to get out the copper from the solution?

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 роки тому +2

      Absolutely. Once you get a metal in solution, just use a metal higher on the reactivity series of metal to cement it out👍

    • @DR_SOLO
      @DR_SOLO Рік тому

      That's the same stage I'm at ended up with one gallon bottle of blue liquid with some powdered Brandon is at the bottom when I don't know what to do at this point I'm two years in with a one-year 8-month pause in between due to the solution that dried out into a clump got put in the closet and forgot about I just recently pulled it out

    • @jw3709
      @jw3709 8 днів тому

      Hey maybe you can help…I did the same vinegar HP and salt. Then went to HCI and nitric and a space of sulfuric. Did a stannous test, black stain so gold into solution. Tried some SMB/stump out to precipitate gold. Solution turned black. Not stain from stannous test. However I have this grey precipitate. I burn some but I think it’s copper. I ruined my melt dish which is okay. Anyway what is the grey precipitate ? Too much SMB?

  • @silver_salvage_savage
    @silver_salvage_savage Рік тому

    Did you melt the copper in the same furnace? Mine doesnt seem to get it done

  • @markhardwick5725
    @markhardwick5725 Рік тому +1

    what pH do you get your solutions to?

  • @JoeStreet-ws1ro
    @JoeStreet-ws1ro 9 місяців тому

    Fill like I came into the middle here.what is solution and where did gold and silver come from

  • @JekilDodiyaa
    @JekilDodiyaa 8 місяців тому

    Sir i have problem in extraction of copper metal from my waste nitrate solution,
    When i add iron plate to my nitrate solution iron hydroxide is precipitated instead of copper metal, why this happened and how to avoid it?

  • @movietime111
    @movietime111 4 місяці тому

    What if skip the copper and just put iron in there, will that drop out both silver and copper together?

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes. The reason they are "stepped" in this process is to isolate them. Falling out, gold will replace silver, silver will replace copper, copper will replace iron... sodium will make all of them fall out at once.
      By stepping up one at a time the solution gets swept for the target metal and each step extracts only one element at a time.
      There's a better way (in more than one sense) to recover copper that's been used to drop gold... "electrowinning". This directly drives the metals out of solution and can be selective or cover a span (depends on voltage). With the current set correctly for the cathode, you can get a nice pure deposition of the target metal, ready to be "turned around" in a new cell for further purification if needed or desired.
      And the waste stream can be made "very compatible". No difficult lingering metals in solution to deal with. Iron isn't the worst but...... those are also materials that don't need to be consumed by the process each run either.

    • @supabiscuit
      @supabiscuit 29 днів тому

      @@MadScientist267this answer helped me… thanks. New sub

  • @9772783
    @9772783 Рік тому +1

    With your fumehood, where do you vent to? i assume being acid fumes you shouldnt just vent out a window at headhight just waiting for some unsuspecting person to walk past and cop a face full of hydrocloric or nitric acid fumes to the face.
    I'm wanting to build my own and i'm hung up on what to do with the other end of the vent! please help!!!

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Рік тому +2

      It's OK to vent directly to outside as long as it's not directly by a sidewalk or something. There are scrubbers you can buy, but they're expensive and unnecessary for this kind of thing. The fumes diffuse into the surrounding air really quickly.

  • @KhanhNguyen-dy4zy
    @KhanhNguyen-dy4zy Рік тому +1

    Hello! What is used to separate copper from solution?

  • @amrendramishra545
    @amrendramishra545 Рік тому

    Which solution you dropping copper rod

  • @TheAntiqueFarmer
    @TheAntiqueFarmer 2 роки тому +1

    I’m removing silver plate from dishes and such. Using sulfuric acid instead of nitric do I have to use lye and sugar or can I nutralize with distilled water and throw copper in it and get silver cement?

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 роки тому +1

      You can definitely cement out the silver with copper in a silver sulfate solution 👍

    • @TheAntiqueFarmer
      @TheAntiqueFarmer 2 роки тому +1

      @@jandlcrafting1332 I assume it won’t be as pure of silver as when lye and sugar is used

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 роки тому

      Correct. Anytime you cement out a metal there will always be other metals in solution that will come out also. Sugar and lye method yields 99.9 purity when done correctly 👍

  • @jaguarikal2136
    @jaguarikal2136 Рік тому

    the solution to this nitric acid and copper only how many silver can i rcover with 1 kg of copper?

  • @rickydona919
    @rickydona919 3 роки тому

    3:52 you have a duck running around making quacking noises for some good reason lol

  • @Scifiotica
    @Scifiotica Рік тому

    Where’s the gasket for the funnel?

  • @narendrakhona1168
    @narendrakhona1168 3 роки тому +1

    NICE VIDEO.
    JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT FLUX IS USED FOR SILVER SOLDERING.
    FOR GOLD IT'S BORAX.
    ALSO DOES SILVER HAVE GRADES LIKE GOLD, 24K, 22K, ETC. THANKS

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  3 роки тому

      I used borax with the silver as well

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  3 роки тому +2

      Silver usually just comes as a percentage of purity. Like 92.5 is 92.5 percent pure silver. Anything at this percent and above is considered sterling silver. They do not use karats like gold however it is essentially the same thing since 18k gold is just a way to say 75% pure gold.

    • @narendrakhona1168
      @narendrakhona1168 3 роки тому +1

      @@jandlcrafting1332 Appreciate The Quick Response/Answer. So Any Silver Item Which Has A Silver Content Below " 92.5% " Is Considered As/ToBe Sterling Silver.
      Is There A Grading In Sterling Silver ❓ THANKS.

    • @Laotzsa
      @Laotzsa 2 роки тому +1

      @@narendrakhona1168 no, any silver with less then 92.5 is not sterling silver. It must be at least 92.5% to be considered sterling silver, any less and it doesn’t meet the standard set by I forgot which king. Was it Henry?

    • @narendrakhona1168
      @narendrakhona1168 2 роки тому +1

      @@Laotzsa Thanks for the Explanation, & Quick Response.
      Appreciate it Very Much

  • @avnidemirel5866
    @avnidemirel5866 10 місяців тому

    Çok güzel olmuş. Silver . Sadece . Sodyum klorür ile . Tuzlu su ile bakır dan ayristiriliyor biliyor dum . Oysa . Cuper boru larla silver çok güzel çöktü teşekkürler

  • @ameerabdalrahman2308
    @ameerabdalrahman2308 2 роки тому +1

    hi . Is that a nitric acid ?

  • @MadScientist267
    @MadScientist267 Рік тому

    Whatever that cloud was in your original solution ended up in your silver. My guess is AgCl.
    Settle it out and decant if it won't clear up with Nitric. No additional HCl as silver chloride isn't soluble and the silver needs to be in solution for cementing to work.
    Once you've got it clear, *then* do the drop and your dropped silver will be fairly pure after wash. If you want more pure than that, you'll need to involve electrolysis (silver cell).
    Same applies for copper, except you can acidify copper solutions with HCl since CuCl2 is soluble.
    If you're *into* electrolysis, copper is easy to recover if the heavier metals are gone first. Using a special type of electrolysis (electrowinning), where a carbon rod serves as the posode, the solution is "driven clean" and all of the copper is deposited out on the cathode for harvest. Low and slow, nice clean take.
    You can do this with silver as well but slow is key if copper is present. It will also want to go to the cathode with the silver but if the power is set up right, it can still separate them. With copper it can go quicker generally speaking. The metals "above" hydrogen will tend to take higher voltages to come out, so careful selection for the target metal is still useful, but in general hydrogen will be evolved preferentially from solution so many of them will stay in solution. EW is fun to mess with.
    TLDR; Either way you only want to drop/run in clear solutions or you're somewhat wasting your time.
    I'd acidify if there's any question, and let it that starting solution settle, decant it and then cement the silver. Filter off the silver, settle solution if needed (or acidify with a little heat, should only be silver metal in suspension now), and electrowin the copper out. If the voltage and current limits are set appropriately, you will have copper plating/crystal growth on the negode and all the metals above hydrogen in solution.

    • @jamescball55
      @jamescball55 Рік тому

      I use a medium grade filter to filter my silver nitrate solution and it is blue a crystal clear. I make sure there is some unreacted silver left or add some sterling silver to make sure the nitric acid is consumed. I use copper pipes and wash out the center of the pipe. Works well for me.

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 3 місяці тому

      ​@@jamescball55Just now saw this... lol 🤦‍♂️
      It works and it's very selective, so yes there's that (you're not going to "get copper out of copper" in other words, only the metals below it in the series.
      The key benefit with electrowinning is you don't involve yet another metal when you are going after the one you want. With displacement, you always end up with a metal in solution, and depending on your choices, can end up with difficult to dispose waste.
      Winning gets around this by driving the metals out of solution, selectively with potential control, and at the correct rate (current) for the type of deposit desired.
      If you use copper as the workhorse metal for going after gold, you can get both back selectively and end up with only the reconstituted acidic solution made up of what they were processed with. This can easily be neutralized with sodium carbonate to drop the traces of other metals out of solution and leave a medley of sodium salts which are simple to dispose of. That's assuming you don't want to also recycle the acids.

  • @gomanatala8558
    @gomanatala8558 8 місяців тому

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  • @moe7199
    @moe7199 3 роки тому +2

    great videos, but they would be even better if you could include some brief summaries of the exact chemical reactions going on.

    • @Xmli884
      @Xmli884 3 роки тому

      looking for Pt, Pd & Rh dore.

  • @gold_extraction79
    @gold_extraction79 2 роки тому

    How I can separate copper from gold without losing any gold

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 роки тому

      Nitric acid would be the easiest and quickest way👍

    • @gold_extraction79
      @gold_extraction79 2 роки тому +1

      @@jandlcrafting1332 but some gold lost with copper by nitric acid

  • @93matarl
    @93matarl 3 роки тому +3

    hello,
    i have a suggestion of a process that you can do that will make it so you can recover the nitric acid and the copper with sulfuric acid,
    it is in a video by NurdRage on youtube that explains how to recover both the copper metal and the nitric acid,
    the down side is that you will need a distilling apparatus and a electrolysing cell(lab power supply),
    the video name is "Efficiently Recover Nitric Acid and Copper Metal From Copper Nitrate Wastes" by NurdRage,
    this will reduce the amount of waste solution you have.

    • @ryans3442
      @ryans3442 Рік тому

      Or one could just sun evaporate the end iron/junk solution to yeild FeNO3 as a nitrate source for your process or as a saleable product

    • @93matarl
      @93matarl Рік тому +2

      @@ryans3442 copper sulfate is also a saleable product, but in many ways is easier to plate out with electrolysis, but yes iron nitrate can be used as a fertilizer supplement but the more useful nitrate are for that is potassium nitrate(saltpeter), any ways there is allot of waste products that can be made in to a useful product in the end, ideally we don't want any waste when dealing with chemicals and only have useful end products.

    • @DR_SOLO
      @DR_SOLO Рік тому

      ​@@93matarlcan you read my comment that I just previously married maybe you can help me with that as well identifying what I created or what I produced with the steps that I took

  • @BlackKnight-th8ml
    @BlackKnight-th8ml Рік тому

    How harmful is this reaction does it produce any gases

  • @montneymon-ta-knee6810
    @montneymon-ta-knee6810 Рік тому

    HOWDID YOU GET THEGOLD OUT FIRST

  • @bobbylong2202
    @bobbylong2202 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome

  • @Abdullah-cn6zm
    @Abdullah-cn6zm 2 роки тому

    How can I convert silver oxide into metal electrically?

  • @loveisalliam
    @loveisalliam 6 місяців тому +1

    Shouldn’t do any acid work where tools will show corrosion even after a year

  • @DR_SOLO
    @DR_SOLO Рік тому

    If I could pick your brain for a second.
    I have a bottle of solution that is a dark blue.
    I started originally trying to recover some precious metals from e-waste. I had in a glass jar that ended up breaking and at that point the solution had solidified and everything was encased in a mud of sort of chalky goo plaster.
    Then the jar broke at some point and I swept everything up put into a aluminum metal coffee can and kind of put in the closet and forgot about it.
    Fast-forward two years to current current time.
    I have rehydrated the material from computer chips cell phone pieces and other miscellaneous contact points.
    Today I have a bottle of the blue solution like I said with (3) different colored layers in it.
    There's
    1. whitish grayish layer thickest layer
    2. Cooper colored layer 1/3 size thickness of layer 1.
    3. Golden tinted layer 1/3 size as layer 1.
    I know I said three layers but I really don't consider this one a layer more of a film, but by All rights we could call it a layer for. When viewing the bottle from the side which is a clear one gallon water jug.
    I can visually see three sedimentary layers three lines of division of the material.
    4. Is a thin golden colored film layer.
    What could they veer?
    I never incorporated or introduced any metal pieces bars bolts or pipe to the solution is not set in direct sunlight but it is on the balcony Nevada desert shade but it still gets hot I guess I keep the bottle closed and sealed with a cap but the layers have settled out at the bottom if I decant the liquid and end up with just the granule is at the bottom. How would I go about trying to figure out what they are or could I do something to help simplify the process I don't have access to strong chemicals the solution itself with vinegar peroxide and salt I think and there was a small handful of E-Waste I have accumulated to just do a test run and would love to know what to do so I can process the rest any help would be appreciated thank you

  • @raviller
    @raviller 3 роки тому

    Why couldn’t you go straight to the steel and skip the copper step?

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  3 роки тому

      If I did that then I would have ended up with a silver copper powder mixture. Steel would have cemented them both out at the same time.

    • @con-king
      @con-king 2 роки тому +1

      @@jandlcrafting1332 You're saying there was originally Silver AND Copper in solution, and you used pure copper to take out the silver which left the original copper in solution and added to it as well?

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 роки тому

      Yes. So with enough nitric acid it will first dissolve the copper, then once the copper is gone it will then start dissolving the silver, putting both into solution. Then just adding more copper will cause the silver to fall out.

  • @kimberlynolz5725
    @kimberlynolz5725 Рік тому

    The inside of those copper pipes will contain silver

  • @thepvporg
    @thepvporg 2 роки тому +1

    It's properly pronounced as Bu-sh-ner funnel.

  • @mada90x
    @mada90x 2 роки тому

    Lake forest North Carolina

  • @humamfarrukh9743
    @humamfarrukh9743 3 роки тому

    Hi

  • @rampartapdehru.8903
    @rampartapdehru.8903 Рік тому

    hindi में दिखाए

  • @rkb6783
    @rkb6783 8 місяців тому

    TAKE YOUR MASK OFF !
    AND USE FLAT PIECES
    OF PLATE COPPER.
    OH HELL...
    I WILL STOP OVER,
    AND DO IT FOR YOU !

  • @loveisalliam
    @loveisalliam 6 місяців тому

    Best not to talk with mask on.

  • @avnidemirel5866
    @avnidemirel5866 10 місяців тому

    Çok güzel olmuş. Silver . Sadece . Sodyum klorür ile . Tuzlu su ile bakır dan ayristiriliyor biliyor dum . Oysa . Cuper boru larla silver çok güzel çöktü teşekkürler

  • @moe7199
    @moe7199 3 роки тому

    great videos, but they would be even better if you could include some brief summaries of the exact chemical reactions going on.