@@noonesenemy89 in theory, it's a bit less safe IMHO. In all reality, you're right. Just more difficult to open and therefore not good to teach that way.
@@noonesenemy89 in all the tests I've seen it is safe just much harder to untie after being loaded. Dressing a knot is very important in climbing and to be a professional that doesn't tie a knot correctly really makes him look like an amateur.
@@derekatwood6236 I wouldn't worry about it. That knot will never be dynamically loaded, the radius of the loops in a fig 8 is the same regardless of how you tie it so strength should be unaffected. Either way, the rope is hardly being loaded hard mountaineering in general so these things just don't matter in the real world. Rock climbing is different as the dynamic loads can be pretty high. If your struggling to undo a know mountaineering something has already gone horribly wrong. It's not like loading the rope is going to be a common occurrence.
Can we get a video of how ro get rid of coils/kinks/ mini loops(dont know how its called) in the rope after using it for a while
It's better to ask a climbing trainer than the internet. You might want to directly see what's happening and discuss stuff.
Several ways to de-kink a bundle of rope. But a pretty decent on is by pulling it through a munter hitch on a carabiner.
Hello I'm a guide with Arc'teryx and I don't know how tie and dress my figure 8 properly. No reason to watch any further
oh, you're right. When he starts tying it back he goes in on the wrong side... bummer, because the rest of the video is ok (or mmmkay in this case).
It's just more difficult to open but still safe, isn't it?
@@noonesenemy89 in theory, it's a bit less safe IMHO. In all reality, you're right. Just more difficult to open and therefore not good to teach that way.
@@noonesenemy89 in all the tests I've seen it is safe just much harder to untie after being loaded. Dressing a knot is very important in climbing and to be a professional that doesn't tie a knot correctly really makes him look like an amateur.
@@derekatwood6236 I wouldn't worry about it.
That knot will never be dynamically loaded, the radius of the loops in a fig 8 is the same regardless of how you tie it so strength should be unaffected.
Either way, the rope is hardly being loaded hard mountaineering in general so these things just don't matter in the real world.
Rock climbing is different as the dynamic loads can be pretty high.
If your struggling to undo a know mountaineering something has already gone horribly wrong.
It's not like loading the rope is going to be a common occurrence.