E63 AMG W212 | Everything You Need To Know (4K)
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- Опубліковано 4 лис 2024
- In this buyer's guide review, I go over the Mercedes-AMG E63 W212 sedan and S212 wagon which were available from 2010-2016. I briefly cover the performance, model year changes, and unique production of the E63 over the years including the performance package and 's' models.
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Something I missed while discussing the options was an AMG Carbon fibre Exterior Package available on the 2010-2013 E63s visible at 11:40.
Make a video for the Cl 63 Amg !!!!
My '15 also has it from the factory. Code 773 - AMG exterior carbon package.
Thanks for a great video; well organized, and right to the important details.
@@walidshihadeh fg
@@lightingacrsa9397 sorry but I didn’t understand
what are the instrumentals?? they are amazing
Pre facelift E63 still looks the best to me. Aggressive yet still elegant. Love that the front end and four headlights make it look unique too.
You can see the overall design started subtly changing towards a more rounded design started from the 2014 facelift. i wonder will they change back to the sharp muscular look with the next generation product.
@@AAAA-oy3ye you're absolutely right. I've always thought Mercedes squarer designs have stood the test of time better. I.e. w124 and SLs
@@alonzoharris222 they most certainly have.
@@alonzoharris222 W140 the most boxy elegant good car, after it was just rare experimentation cars to now the weird round designs, even the front grill looks bad
Agree, a prefacelift W212 with the M156, then facelift its rear-end with the better looking bumper, diffuser and tail lights and you got yourself the best looking W212 of the 3
I love this channel. Always such high quality content. Never does silly intros or click bait. Dives right into the good stuff. I wish more channels followed your example.
I appreciate that!
Great example of technical gravitas! Thank you,
I do also. Enjoy watching the videos and now been watching same videos repeatedly so I know my w212 e63 AMG inside out.
I've been lusting after an e63S W212 for a few months now. Thanks for helping me learn so much about these cars. Now that some are 5+ years old now, I can finally (maybe) afford one.
You might be able to afford buying one but can't afford maintenance, ownership cost on these high performance cars is expensive.
In my opinion the W212 is the best E-Class of all time !
Was just looking at w212 e63 AMG's and saw this video pop up, well made!
I have been looking to buy a W212 E63 for the past months. Absolutely perfect timing with this video!
Great video!
The M157 timing chain issue was fixed in production from 2013 when both the upgraded chain and check valve style tensioner was fitted. Any timing chain issues on 13 on engines is from lack of service / oil changes and not a common fault. (Actually an issue with most late model chain driven cam cars if you neglect them)
I own a 2011 W212 E63 with the legendary M156 6.2 V8 and I love it so much!
How long is it work buying with higher mileage
Best engine ever
I love it how you put the Michelin logo at the top of pictures. It's the details. Michelin or Contis are like a rolex , you don't hide them
Their are a few rare options 14-16 models to get is the carbon edition for $15k and B&O sound for $5k which is well worth spending for. Great vid and love them AMG engine that is hand built to perfection.
If you're watching this video that means you own an E63.
Congratulations, you made it in life
Brilliant video, thank you! :) I have deposit paid on a 2015 E63, in Allanite Grey, it seems to have the Top speed limiter removed, and AMG LSD too, can't wait for next week until collection!
An engine from F1Mike would be a dream! Nice video mate🙌🙌
As an AMG fan, I love your channel. Thank you 🤙🏻
The use of the need for speed soundtrack was godly. Absolutely loved tgis
Best looking E Class.
Thanks for the detail of difference. Really helpful
5:33 is the most replayed part of this video. 2013 engine is when they fixed the intercooler issue (main suspect for engine catastrophe). Regarding the wagon comparison, the pre-lift 2013 front looks much more aggressive with its sharp, symmetrical lines. Do what you will with this information.
Brilliant video, I'm sure we've all been waiting on this one.
Hopefully we'll get a w213 and w212 e63 comparison video soon
Great video, I own a black 2010 W212 E63 with P30 performance package and AMG drivers package. It had its head bolts replaced while your in there when doing the timing by Tasos Moschatos. Performance pack E63 is very stiff and can get annoying. I previously owned a w211 E55.
How is it comoares to the E55 ?
I recently bought a CLS55
Responsive, Much better handling and sharper driving and fun gearshifts,
E55 is more stable and comfortable at speeds above 200 km/h and is built with much higher quality parts in the interior and less plastics. Carpets in the E55 are more luxurious. Costs were cut in quality of materials but most are hidden in the E63.
I also have 2011 E63 P30 and live in UAE. Is Tasos recommended? I heard he knows these cars very well.
Simon Innes Yes, recommended
Do you know if there’s a way to find out if the head bolts have been replaced with VIN number? Thinking about buying a 2011 E63
Make sure to get a car that has the updated timing chain if buying a 5.5 biturbo. (2013 & up).
Another great review vid, love the channel, definitely gonna get some stickers for my w211 e55 wagon, you should consider making some t shirts, I'd love some more m113k related merch 👍
M157 cylinder walls are soft like a butter. If you don’t believe me, watch and listen to Tasos. If you don’t believe him either - you’re the only strange person in AMG community :)
Tasos is very knowledgeable
Love my M156 w212. 175k miles and counting
Still on original head bolts Daniel? Res delete the best mod on the M156 👍
@@Alpinatom Yep, original head bolts!
@@comedian376 great to hear. A brutal unit the 156
@@Alpinatom Yes! Have been contemplating selling mine but not sure yet. I know I will regret it if I do
@@comedian376 I know exactly what you mean, had mine now 1 and a half years. The performance and that exhaust sound is amazing. Not many cars sound as good as the 156. The newer amg's don't in my opinion.
Beautiful car, I've got 350 cdi and 63 is a dream car for me 🙂
Love your videos. I could watch them for days.
Big props for the NFS:HP soundtrack ;)
Thank you for another great video! If my CLS55 survives few years I'm definitely skipping 4th gen E-Class. I really like the 5th gen 2017-2020 and so far I'm not a fan of 2021 facelift because of its taillights and front grille. So I'm interested in understanding the difference between 17', 18', 19' and 20' models.
love the channel and the detail vids. What a great learning opportunity for me as I look for my own e63. I am thinking about purchasing a used 2010 model year e63 with performance package. One area that sounded weird to me was that the steering wheel feels loose when the car is completely off. You are able to move left and right for about 5 degree and there's a slight knocking sound. The dealer said this is relatively normal but I am skeptical. Would you know if this is a common issue for earlier year e63? Should I look to replace the coupling shaft? Any feedback is appreciate it!
I wasn't going to buy anymore Benz. AMGmeister I am definitely going to buy E63 AMG. :-)
As always an amazing video that is truly informative. Have been looking to buy a W212 E63 myself and have done months of research, which was all thoroughly explained here. Good job 👏
Thank you for sharing all this information. I enjoy listening and learning from you.
Another excellent video. 👍
love my 13 E63, great vid.
Excellent stuff, I'm always looking for wagons cause I just love those!!, Also I'm becoming more and more a fan of AMG designs for everything they offer. Thanks for the video. I would get both wagon and sedan if I could!
thank you for another video....could the BMW owner please remove their 1 dislike...best wishes from Edinburgh, Scotland
Would love to see video like this for the g wagon
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I just finished watching it. Again, thank you for your great content! I've spent a while comparing differences in infotainment systems throughout the model years of W212 E-Class and I think later models have more desirable and more comfortable and more advanced systems. For example, on later models you get 360' view and better rear view on-screen parking assistant. Also large HDD etc. If I had to buy W212 I'd by 2016 S-model. Same with W221 where I prefer 2012-2013 models while earlier AMG S221 models are noticeably cheaper. I'm not sure if I ever buy a wagon. They look nice but I don't think they are better than sedans. Yes, wagons are roomier than sedans but how often do you need an extra cargo volume? I have a minivan that has much more cargo volume compared to a wagon. It's also taller. You can fit huge boxes or bicycles without removing wheels inside a minivan. This is what I call practical. Unfortunately, Benz doesn't make AMG minivans anymore. The only reason I'd buy an AMG wagon is its look. I really really like those thin and precise taillights on the S213 model. Also I'm not sure if older AMG wagon keep they value. This car will require more and more funds to keep them on the road. Also Mercedes did a fantastic job with recent MBUX when they introduced an AR HUD display. Soon driving W212 will feel like driving an early 220 S-Class with small displays which are totally useless nowadays. So in my opinion while MB is pushing technology in their newer models, older models will look more and more like dinosaurs which will only hurt their resale values. It's my personal opinion.
Fantastic video as always! I test drove a few AMG's here in Sydney one day one of which was teh W212 E63 with an M156....but went for my W221 S63....I'll add one of these to the collection soon! Thanks again :)
Thx for these vids been trynna get a 2015 E63
Great video !
Excellent video as always.
Great videos with good background information! Any plan of making a video on 550 cars with m278 motor? They are pretty underrated but can be sleepers after a tune and keep up with m157 cars.
I was thinking the same thing
Opinions on getting a 2019 e63 amg fully loaded for 45,000 CAD with 50,000KM on it what’s the long term like on these ?
Funny you mention the red brakes... two of our cars have had this issue with the peeling. On my C63 with only 37k miles at the time so I just peeled off the remainder clearcoat and resprayed with some VHT caliper clearcoat. Seems to be doing the same on our SLS with only 15k miles so it’s pretty annoying
2011 Performance pack e63 is the sweet spot - 156 engine won’t be repeated in this format again, what a soundtrack, the drama, the n/a goodness, who cares if tech is dated, buy laptop if that’s your bag lol real car people know I’m right!
How does it feel to own the E63 for some time now?
Amazing job!
I'm always trying to find the production number and sales figures of certain performance cars. But it's so hard to find the exact number of different AMGs.
How did you find the numbers?
There are currently 0 w212 amg s saloons or wagons for sale in the UK. There were around 3 in March. There's around 20 w212 non s cars for sale in the UK. Makes deciding which one to buy a whole lot easier 😁
Good video please do one on the w215 CL55 CL500 etc
CLK55 and CLK63 next!
I have a very quick buyer’s guide for you:
2011 is the best year for M156
2012-2014 avoid at all costs!!!
2015-2016 okay to buy (M157 is still crap but not as bad as 2012-2014 cars.
Please could you explain why M157 is still crap? Also what about later M157 engines like 2016-2018. I see G-wagens had this engine till 2018. Thanks.
Open Diff I had a 2012 E63. It went through two engines. The problem seem to be with those new Piezo type fuel injectors. I was going through spark plugs very fast as well. This all ended up in scoring on cylinder walls. This is all US market experience. I hear that our poor quality fuel can be the culprit. Either way, this should not have been happening
@@timmietz I feel your pain bud. I know on the other side of the ocean people Install forged sleeves when scoring happens. Though I only read and watched about Porsche 4.8 engines. I guess here it would cost a fortune. I'm glad you had a warranty which should have covered those failed engines. Eventually I'd like to get a later 1st gen 463 G-wagen but I guess I need to do more research on these M157 engines...
M157 cylinder walls are soft like a butter.
@@ELWIN225 I wonder what about cylinder walls in m113k and m120?
Do a video of the W221 S63 with the M156 AMG prefacelift 2006-2009
Should I sell my '06 E55 for the W212 E63? Is it worth it?
I would say the E55 has the comfort angle covered really well. With the W212 you lose the comfort somewhat but you're getting a far more dynamic car . Are you thinking 6.2 or 5.5 w212?
another great video, thank you
I have the pre facelift W212 but the facelift model is starting to grow on me
Man 11.6 @ 122? That's fast. My Tuned '17 CLS 63 S did 11.7 @ 120. Kinda makes me think the dude that sold me that 1500$ tune don't know what the heck he's doing lol
Or you just can't drive.
Got to swap my engine badge with a Michael kubler one. All I've got is an Andreas Shultz.
I am going to buy a w212, 2016 model , happy
Is the paddle shift timing upgrade worth it from the 2014 to the 2015 ?
Great video. Thank you!
What is your opinion w212 e500/e550(for Nort America) with the 4.7 biturbo. They are quite tunable.
I have 2013 e63 Optioned with B&O surround system and truck subwoofer .its not sounding that great compared to standard h/k sound system .the h/k sounds more loud and have more bass in my opinion not worth that money to spending on it back in the days . However it’s looks like fantastic inside the car with those chrome pieces all around n especially when that little ambient lighting illuminates at night….
We need a BMW M channel with this much knowledge and effort put in
I love the E-Class over the S-Class
the E-class shares many modules with the S as witnessed by module designators.
Both love to get Xentry Software updates direct from factory...
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I am in the market for a 14-16 e 63 s right now! So hard to find the perfect car. Thanks for the video! If anyone finds any good deals on well optioned cars let me know!! Much love
I have a 14 wagon Brn 63s w 44k miles . 1 owner. DM if you are interested. Not dealer please. Direct deal.
Beautiful machine, I might buy a diesel w212 for my dad😁
I think you should buy one for me also. You can have my CLK500 Cabriolet
@@ltsgarage7780 na fam, I perfer the c class and e class models
Stipe Marić mine is a C class model. It’s a Clk with a V8
W209
My mum has had alot of issues with the injectors and dpf in her early 2009 w212 220 cdi. I believe that these issues where fixed by Mercedes shortly after the release of the w212
@@peterlathouras7422 thanks for the info but I'm thinking of buying 2011 and up
I understand the W212 chassis, especially in AMG guise, is likely technically brilliant--however, for me, its shape can't trigger emotions in the same way as the sensuous curves of the gorgeous early W211s, nor even the awesome early W124. The W212 facelift's styling... well, ignorant colleagues named it the 'catfish' and awful it disposed of a traditional 3-pointed star.
So do the W212 6.2’s have the really expensive brakes of the face lifted w211 E63?
All this video has managed to do for me is make me want an e63s wagon that’s currently for sale (that I cannot afford) rather than this 2010 sedan… 😂
i saw one with cooled seats 2010
Good zeitgeist narrating cadence!
Do facelift w212 wear brakes often?
You said the facelift 2014 has an optional exterior carbon fiber trim package. That is true but the pre facelift 2010 to 2013 also had an optional exterior carbon fiber package and the palladium silver sedan you showed in the video at 11:44 actually has the package.
G Rosa Yes, that is true but I believe it was special order for 2010-2013 in the US and a normal offering for 2014+.
AMGmeister you are incorrect. It was an SPC code (special order) in both pre facelift (2010-2013 for $3,125) and facelift (2014-2016 for $3,125) vehicles. The carbon exterior is one of several special order options (heated rear seats being another example) that requires an additional $250 charge. The charge is not added for each special order option however and only applied once regardless of how many you picked. I’ve included links to the dealer ordering guides for 2013 and 2014:
mbworld.org/forums/attachments/e-class-w212/241473d1344538697-quick-diesel-question-w212-2013-ordering-guide.pdf
mbworld.org/forums/attachments/e-class-w212/254619d1362503394-2014-e-class-order-guide-my14-e_wagon-dog-wo-amg-021113-5.pdf
@@GRosa250 Thanks for the info! I pinned a comment about this.
AMGmeister I really do enjoy your videos and I know there’s a lot of research involved in making them. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Love the styling.
compared E-Class to the S-class?
😉
is the 2010 E63 with M156 have the LSD?
Can you do a video about w203 c32
NFS makes it a brilliant watch
This car is NA right no turbo?
LOVE the opening music!!!!! Link? Name and artist?
So all 2012 e63 models came with limited slip differential ??
No, it was optional - 471 MECHANICAL LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL - on the data card.
Does anyone know about the reliability for the new face lifted E63? I'm talking about the 2013+
So there's no w212 with updated interior(2012) and m156 engines? Or it's just US thing?
Nikker Correct, no 2012 M156
Hey AMG Meister, you forgot to mention the carbon bits on the bottom of the front bumper on the 10-13 E63 sedan.
Yes, there was a carbon fibre exterior package for the 10-13 but it was special order only I believe, not advertised in the brochures.
AMGmeister The carbon fibre exterior package wasn’t part of the performance package on 10-13 E63 sedan?
Nabeel Shamsi No, not part of the performance package.
Sweet! I wish it was 1 month earlier when I was shopping for w212 e63 :) (ended up going with w204 c63)
Are you thinking of doing similar videos for C classes by any chance?
he has a video about w204
b62 84T thanks, I don’t know how I missed that!
@@andysbluecarrots Keep your 204 C63 mate, i've owned both (see my videos) and the C63 is a better car - if you want something luxury then get an S63 or S600.
Matty231 I just got the c63 and planning on keeping it for a while. Thanks for your input!
@@andysbluecarrots All good thank you :) Hope you enjoy it.
I know this is an old video but does anyone know if the M156 in the E63 got the black series treatment that the C63 P31 package did? Forged internals and such. Thanks.
Excellent review however that background music......🥲
The performance pckage includes also pistons from the sls amg☺️☺️☺️
oxid alpha Not in the E63. Only in 2010+ C63s with performance package.
M156 cars have MCT? Are you sure it’s not 7G Tronic? I know M157 cars are MCT but M156?
2010-2011 E63 with M156 does have MCT transmission. 2012-2015 C63 with M156 also has MCT.
AMGmeister Yeah C63 I knew of but had no idea about the E63 M156. Thanks for the info!
I LOVE MY W212 PERFORMANCE PACK
do you have a video about s coupe?
Does anyone know how many e63 estate with m156 were made ?
Can’t find any information of it thanks
6:05 is that a factory e63 color ?
I forgot what ost need for speed tho(i think it’s high stakes)🤔
Song at the start of the video? Thx.
AND KNOW VIDEO ABOUT C 63 AMG YEEEES PLEASE
Where do i get the Malboro look
AMG MEISTER sticker?
L G In my store: amgmeister.company.site Free shipping.
Not like i am buying one but u never know
Which code is for the LSD option?
471 is for LSD