Got a Vessel Impacta a little while ago to work on the infamous Honda/Acura brake rotor screws… it makes short work of those crews without damaging them. It’s one of my favorite tools ⚒️ to own.
In more recent times JIS has changed a bit. The screws heads are deeper and closer to ISO standard to fit better with Phillips screwdrivers. Vessel and other Japanese screwdriver manufactures have also changed their tip lengths. Some now just mark all their drivers PH as they work with everything. Posidriv, originally designed by Phillips, is what most European industry uses these days. Also flat pack furniture Worldwide. Posidriv does not cam out (unless you use a Phillips screwdriver) and is more secure than JIS. It's about time the US phased out old style Phillips. In industry it's normally better to torque limit the tool not the fastener.
The Phillips screwdriver was originally designed for the aviation industry. It was designed to cam out when it hit a specific torque so that you would not strip the aluminum screws that they used in the manufacturing of aircraft.
Wow I was given my impact screwdriver in a blue case as one of my first tools 6 years ago. Never thought I'd see another person with the exact same one. Nice milwaukee too. Thanks I need to get those fancy JIS screwdriver.
In a road emergency you can, and I have, dragged a Phillips tip across a concrete sidewalk to shorten the tip so it would fit JIS. Best to have the right tools but screwdrivers are cheap enough to be expendable.
All these years ... and all those screws in the bin. It's probably stated in the workshop manuals but we always skip to the diagrams dont we. Thanks for this, very informative.
I have been doing my research on JIS since I heard about it as well as working on a 1978 cb400T II. Now I hate phillips, so many things make sense now that I know more about JIS, and phillips has always frustrated me. I have found that the best way to spot a JIS screw is to look at the shape of the slots. Phillips is curved, and JIS is square. The JIS screws I have encountered don't always have dots or their so old or corroded/damaged that you can't see them.
I was just about to buy the screw drivers from EBay because of another video you made and decided to do some research and ran into this video; first time I ever heard of JIS. I know its a small commission but I went through your link. I think I made the mistake on using Phillips on a piece a couple of weeks ago and ended up doing the slits on the screws to get it loose. I appreciate the content and other videos you made, keep up the good work.
Uh my snap on screwdriver that looks like a Phillips fits these old Suzuki carbs on the FA50 I've rebuilt like 5 carbs this summer I know a guy with a fleet of them. I checked the fitment of the screwdriver to the screw to make sure I wouldn't strip the screw head. So I'm pretty sure these early to mid 80s japanese carbs would have the jis screws yet it was a tight fit I never stripped a single screw and there must've been 12 each bike at least so 60-ish screws not a single problem
I’ve wanted to get some of these for a while. Big box store employees acted like I had a 3rd arm growing out of my head when I was asking about JIS drivers.
Piss on big box stores except for supplies. One-click ordering gets me any tool I want and I don't have to waste time and money driving to a store that's wildly unlikely to have what I want.
One tip... when using an impact driver never use more than a 16oz. hammer. You want the bit to turn, not crush. If you break bits your hammer is too heavy.
Do you think you could teach us (or maybe you know someone you could) how to cut and stretch a steel gas tank? I have a Honda tank on my Kawasaki and it is almost perfect. I just wanna stretch it about an inch at the bottom, half at top, and then braze/weld a middle section. I've been wanting to do this for ten years! Just need an example! Maybe some others out there like me too!?
I absolutely hate Philips screw, being Canadian I'm Robinson or square head, all the way. Sometimes I dream about pulling the lousy American Philips screw out that my wife had put in her knee in USA hospital after a bike accident. lol
@@HTMR The patreon supporters that give away money... I get they support you, but I think you should give screwdrivers or whatever else you give away to the less fortunate.
@@HTMR I'm a new subscriber & would like you to send me a vessel impacta #3 screwdriver so I can get my honda rotor screws off to change my rotors & pads on all 4 wheels . Thanks!
Got a Vessel Impacta a little while ago to work on the infamous Honda/Acura brake rotor screws… it makes short work of those crews without damaging them. It’s one of my favorite tools ⚒️ to own.
In more recent times JIS has changed a bit. The screws heads are deeper and closer to ISO standard to fit better with Phillips screwdrivers. Vessel and other Japanese screwdriver manufactures have also changed their tip lengths. Some now just mark all their drivers PH as they work with everything.
Posidriv, originally designed by Phillips, is what most European industry uses these days. Also flat pack furniture Worldwide. Posidriv does not cam out (unless you use a Phillips screwdriver) and is more secure than JIS. It's about time the US phased out old style Phillips. In industry it's normally better to torque limit the tool not the fastener.
The Phillips screwdriver was originally designed for the aviation industry. It was designed to cam out when it hit a specific torque so that you would not strip the aluminum screws that they used in the manufacturing of aircraft.
Wow I was given my impact screwdriver in a blue case as one of my first tools 6 years ago. Never thought I'd see another person with the exact same one. Nice milwaukee too. Thanks I need to get those fancy JIS screwdriver.
In a road emergency you can, and I have, dragged a Phillips tip across a concrete sidewalk to shorten the tip so it would fit JIS. Best to have the right tools but screwdrivers are cheap enough to be expendable.
When I started using the Vessel impact JIS 3 Honda car brake jobs became so much easier. I've only had to drill out 1 screw so far.
The green screw is a pozidrive, you can see the extra stripes between he cross
All these years ... and all those screws in the bin. It's probably stated in the workshop manuals but we always skip to the diagrams dont we. Thanks for this, very informative.
I have been doing my research on JIS since I heard about it as well as working on a 1978 cb400T II.
Now I hate phillips, so many things make sense now that I know more about JIS, and phillips has always frustrated me.
I have found that the best way to spot a JIS screw is to look at the shape of the slots.
Phillips is curved, and JIS is square. The JIS screws I have encountered don't always have dots or their so old or corroded/damaged that you can't see them.
I was just about to buy the screw drivers from EBay because of another video you made and decided to do some research and ran into this video; first time I ever heard of JIS. I know its a small commission but I went through your link. I think I made the mistake on using Phillips on a piece a couple of weeks ago and ended up doing the slits on the screws to get it loose. I appreciate the content and other videos you made, keep up the good work.
Thanks Luis! You'll love them.
@@HTMRdon't toss your Phillips.....just grind them shorter.
For wood and drywall I prefer Spax. Take a look!
My 1991 toyota truck has jis screws inside the air flow meter
Uh my snap on screwdriver that looks like a Phillips fits these old Suzuki carbs on the FA50 I've rebuilt like 5 carbs this summer I know a guy with a fleet of them. I checked the fitment of the screwdriver to the screw to make sure I wouldn't strip the screw head. So I'm pretty sure these early to mid 80s japanese carbs would have the jis screws yet it was a tight fit I never stripped a single screw and there must've been 12 each bike at least so 60-ish screws not a single problem
I’ve wanted to get some of these for a while. Big box store employees acted like I had a 3rd arm growing out of my head when I was asking about JIS drivers.
Ha. I haven't found them in any big box stores. At least any worth buying. You won't be sorry with the vessel impacta.
sears has them rebranded as craftsman but you only get a flat head and Phillips
Jim O'Rourke,, I asked someone at Lowes & got the same reaction.
Piss on big box stores except for supplies. One-click ordering gets me any tool I want and I don't have to waste time and money driving to a store that's wildly unlikely to have what I want.
Thanks for the video.. Why not just grind a little flat on the tip of the Philips screwdriver ?
One tip... when using an impact driver never use more than a 16oz. hammer. You want the bit to turn, not crush. If you break bits your hammer is too heavy.
I wish I read that a month ago!
The JIS don’t all have a dot, in my experience.
Thats true
That tan/bronze screw looks like a Pozidriv, not a Philips. For what it's worth.
Where can you buy these as a set? I'm also looking for the thin shaft version also.
Links in video description
thank you..i really appreciate your explanation
I have a set and what difference
I love them. Have 2 sets. Never use my snap on anymore.
Do you think you could teach us (or maybe you know someone you could) how to cut and stretch a steel gas tank? I have a Honda tank on my Kawasaki and it is almost perfect. I just wanna stretch it about an inch at the bottom, half at top, and then braze/weld a middle section. I've been wanting to do this for ten years! Just need an example! Maybe some others out there like me too!?
Maybe someday.
5:51 its a pozidrive not a philips.
I seen the giveaway and I clicked I looked at the date and it said November 8th I was like yeah and then it was 2 years ago
Would have been great if you explained that JIS stands for Japanese Industrial Standard..... Next video??
It's in the blog post ->www.howtomotorcyclerepair.com/jisscrewdriver/
I absolutely hate Philips screw, being Canadian I'm Robinson or square head, all the way. Sometimes I dream about pulling the lousy American Philips screw out that my wife had put in her knee in USA hospital after a bike accident. lol
Then there is reed and prince and pozidrive.
That second screw in the vice wasn't a Phillips, it was a pozidrive, jeez
love my jis screwdrivers.
You must be from Wisconsin if u want new Glarus beer
I live in the NW burbs of Chicago. I go to WI a lot.
Great vídeo thanks,try wiha and wera screwdrivers, Germany tools are the best quality and strong very biutiful, tools Forever.Made in Germany.😎😎😎
Yeah man, i'm jissing all the time 😂😂
i didn't know.
Neither did I until a few years ago.
These screws are all crap
The best screws are torx
Practically unbreakable and easy
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"djiss"
You need to research difference between pozi head and phillips head screws before making vids about JIS.
Why, is the gold screw in video pozi?
@@HTMR yes
The rich that can afford to give away money... Should they really win free screwdrivers?
Huh?
@@HTMR The patreon supporters that give away money... I get they support you, but I think you should give screwdrivers or whatever else you give away to the less fortunate.
@@MorrowSind Gotcha.
@@HTMR I'm a new subscriber & would like you to send me a vessel impacta #3 screwdriver so I can get my honda rotor screws off to change my rotors & pads on all 4 wheels . Thanks!