You can save lots of battery in performance and turbo mode if you disable cpu boots in those profile while on battery. Of course it depends on the game, but I saw up to a 4w difference in the performance mode and every little thing counts.
That's a good point, I'm hoping since it's windows too people keep finding little things like that and then maybe Microsoft puat out a power profile for it. Even though Asus has taken a very good first stab at it.
Having it plugged defeats the whole purpose of you playing on the go , they need to come up with waaay better batteries otherwise why own this when you can get a laptop.
Its way more portable than a laptop. A gaming laptop will only get 30 min if your lucky if you play a AAA title. The Ally Z1 extreme is also cheaper than a laptop
you could not have out it in a better way! good video! I feel like there is a misunderstanding with this device because people keep comparing it to the steam deck. The steam deck is more of a console, plug and play not much hassle, where as this device you'll need to be windows and asus software savvy. It's not for everyone. I've had it for a couple weeks now and I can say I'm on it more than my gaming rig lol! it's just nice to be able to play diablo 4 lying on my couch 😂
Wow! So you are saying you don't need tinkering with Steam Deck. You are saying as if only ROG is the only Windows Handheld - million other came out before this. JFC! GTFO
the more reason why sony is making a stream only device for their ps5s... idk, I mean I have a ps5 and a monitor right in front of me but I still tend to play the psvita at times (or any handheld in that regard). What more if I can play the exact games yhe console could right...😅 my wife's always giving me the look, whenever she sees me watching videos like this, or looking at it in eshop sites😅
@moonlalune8003 hahaha I get that luckily my wife is somewhat a gamer so she understands 🤣 but even that, I mean you can save money by getting the ps5 backbone controller for $130 CAD (where I live) and slap it on your smartphone and stream play through the ps app....or ...spend twice maybe 3 times that amount for a fancier version that sony will release that does exactly the same thing 🤷🏻♂️
Well you totally can, making sacrifices, but I see your point. I can only wish on 80Watts batteries, with a better tech to being small and have low weight
Depending on what you want to play the Deck does that easy. I’ll get nearly 8 hours when emulating GBA, and around 6-7 when emulating DS. Indie titles and older AAA games will give me 4 minimum.
I wish it had an auto switch function.. so when I plug it in and it goes to turbo.. It goes to my turbo settings. And If I unplug it it goes to a lower profile you set up.
I just finished a 2 hours and 15 minutes FH5 session on my ARA running my APU on average of 8 watts and screen resolution 1080p @ a steady 120 fps max settings. Riddle me this? I just learned about this method a day ago but it appears as though this method has been around for some time. Streaming games from my gaming pc and also from my PS5 utilizing remote access and port forwarding on my router. These methods allow the pc/ps5 to do all the heavy lifting and the ARA to function as a 120hz screen with a joystick that can also run native game on a pinch if wifi is not available. Granted this may not be for everyone but tbh playing Jedi Survivor at an avg 90fps 1080p @ epic setting with ray tracing really shows the beauty of the ARA. PS5 @ 60 fps max'd setting on GT7 is sublime. Plenty of YoutTube videos on how to setup your ARA stream your pc/ps5. Cheers!
O yeah streaming is great, it really makes the device shine. Being able to do 1080 120 max setting in most games over wifi is sweet. You just need a great router!
disable cpu boost also lower refresh rate and lock fps in game . It does not work with every game i use it for cyberpunk at 15 watts 1080p low setting .
Gaming laptop in a form of handheld is like saying this is a chair in a form of a table 😂😂😂😂 A laptop is called a laptop because it was made so you can use it on top of your lap. A handheld is made so that you can use it while you held it in your hand 🤭
Maybe the $599 base Z1 Ally will have greater battery life and yet still be a step more powerful than the Steamdeck? Kinda on the fence here but I do have concerns about the reported ROG hardware issue. The dying SD card problem seems pretty bad. The other got yah's could be standard fair of Windows Update screwing you up. On my laptop I have many issues with the Xbox app changing the install locations for Gamepass. I also worry about what happens next with future Windows support. What if Windows 12 comes out and it requires more system ram. Has anyone tried Windows 10 on the Ally? Then there's the uncertainty of AMD drivers for this APU. At least Valve treats the deck as a console with it's own SteamOS which I hope can last over these newer Windows iterations. Otherwise I really love the freedom of having the full Windows experience to run everything but there are many caveats to consider in the long run. AynNeo offers 32GB of ram at a price too.
Many valid thoughts here. I would say, for things about hardware. Mine was totally fine and Asus has a great hardware warranty make sure you register it. On windows issues, I would say that it will have plenty of power to deal with OS modification for a while. Plus you can always roll back to stock and turn updates off. And if it's a comparison to other devices, this one is the most powerful you can buy currently. I think it's a great device but if you don't need the power go with the base model Deck.
I've dug deeper on the base Z1 it's definitely weaker than the Ryzen 5 7640U that's coming out which is 6 cores with 8 cu's vs Z1's 6 core and 4 cu's. That may mean the Z1 is a Radeon 740M vs 760M found on the 7640U. That's kind of a bummer comparing to the 780M 12cu's found in the Extreme or the 7840U. I only know of the GPD Win4 offering 6 core with 8cu's. Heck I'd be happy with a 6 core 6 cu's but 4 cu is going backwards.
@@DaveyG the base deck might be enough I guess to stream from a stronger pc and console for the price it offers. Amazon has cheap $15 256GB for the internal drive replacement even. I see some people even adding windows on it.
I find the battery argument funny. This will play your AAA games that need powerful pcs very well but people say we'll I only get an hour of battery time. Well yeah that's what I expected. It's a pc and acts like a pc. The device is an amazing 1st gen console from Asus but as AMD improves it's power management the devices will get better. For me I'm loving it and it's replaced my AMD/Nvidia 1070 pc
But that battery life is a deal breaker for many, I ve said it before: the battery technology is not up to the performance and graphics of these devices, i mean the original game boy could last 30 hours of battery.
@@natanhaelalvarado6137 this is not a device for game boy users. It's not a device for console/switch users. This is a pc that fits in a bag to play AAA games on the go. Remember when the switch came out it got blasted for low battery life? This is one of the 1st gen gaming pcs of this form factor that has got nothing but positive reviews and a very good price point. Things will improve over the next 10 years and if Microsoft also make a gaming version of windows this will also help improve things. If the battery is an issue for you then it's not the device for you but show me something that can do what the Ally can do with 4 or more hours of battery life? For me playing rocket league at 10w gets me close to my little boys switch playing the same game but with better graphics for me thats a win. Yes playing Halo or Forza I need 25w to get max fps and only get an hour out of it but again it's what I expect for the power it is using.
@@james8606 thats why i think its better not to buy the first gen. the reason we go handheld is for flexibility but if the battery is terrible then , there is no flexibility at all. its like , if you are a truck driver that deliver a package. and then you decide to deliver using motorcycle since its more flexible to get around using bike .but it turned out that the package is too many and you cant take all of them at once. so you have to go back to warehouse many times compared to using truck. PS: "This is one of the 1st gen gaming pcs of this form factor that has got nothing but positive reviews and a very good price point."for this of comment. i think you only feel the excitement of joyness because u feel awesome to play pc games in handheld mode. but such joyness wont last long after you get used to it.
@@VinVin21969 I get what you are saying but disagree. The Rog Ally was the device I wanted and fits my gaming style. I don't spend hours gaming due to having a family and busy life but over the last 5 years I have spent less and less time gaming. Since getting the ally I have found it works amazing in docked mode where I want a longer gaming session and if I just want to spend an hour playing a game before bed or with my little one I undock it and battery lasts that time. 1gen is not for everyone but without people supporting 1st gen 2nd gens don't get made and everything can be improved
Yeah sure. We all want 4k gaming 120fps on a handheld but cannot comprehend that level of power needs, huh, power. So 30fps 720p 6h or 4k 120fps 1h, choose. Because you cannot simply drive a car 300 miles and then complain on the fuel consumption if you are travelling with the accelerator all way down.
The OLED Deck has good battery now, at least! Speaking of which, I'm selling my ally for this reason. Freaking lame battery. Their new "ally x" is advertised as having 2x the battery life which would still only be an hour and 20 minutes 😂
@E55666 yeah, the oled deck battery life is boss! Best on a pc handheld right now. I love the ally. It's way better than the deck, but the battery life is atrocious. I'm going to sell my ally and by the ally x.
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everybody reviewing this thing has a tricked out room with the LED lights and retro hardware on the shelves. This guy, has a backwards cap and cake.
You can save lots of battery in performance and turbo mode if you disable cpu boots in those profile while on battery. Of course it depends on the game, but I saw up to a 4w difference in the performance mode and every little thing counts.
That's a good point, I'm hoping since it's windows too people keep finding little things like that and then maybe Microsoft puat out a power profile for it. Even though Asus has taken a very good first stab at it.
How do u disable cpu boost?
"The ROG ALLY Battery Last How Long?"
As about as long as a slowly leaking bucket takes to completely empty. You can watch the percentage drop xD
Having it plugged defeats the whole purpose of you playing on the go , they need to come up with waaay better batteries otherwise why own this when you can get a laptop.
its cheap though
Yes I love using a full laptop in handheld mode. Makes sense.
Its way more portable than a laptop. A gaming laptop will only get 30 min if your lucky if you play a AAA title. The Ally Z1 extreme is also cheaper than a laptop
I have the Extreme. Battery life is really bad. 3 hours on no gaming. About a little over an hour on gaming.
Yup, this is a laptop power wise
I'm selling my ally now, just ordered a steam deck. There is no point of having a handheld that's not portable.
@@E55666fr at that point just dual boot on steam deck and you're good to go
I mean my Powerbank holds it for 10 Hours i am pretty satisfied
I sold steamdeck because is hot@@E55666
you could not have out it in a better way! good video! I feel like there is a misunderstanding with this device because people keep comparing it to the steam deck. The steam deck is more of a console, plug and play not much hassle, where as this device you'll need to be windows and asus software savvy. It's not for everyone. I've had it for a couple weeks now and I can say I'm on it more than my gaming rig lol! it's just nice to be able to play diablo 4 lying on my couch 😂
Right! Completely agree, and glad you liked the video! Also yes, diablo 4 on the couch is huge.
Wow! So you are saying you don't need tinkering with Steam Deck. You are saying as if only ROG is the only Windows Handheld - million other came out before this. JFC! GTFO
the more reason why sony is making a stream only device for their ps5s... idk, I mean I have a ps5 and a monitor right in front of me but I still tend to play the psvita at times (or any handheld in that regard). What more if I can play the exact games yhe console could right...😅 my wife's always giving me the look, whenever she sees me watching videos like this, or looking at it in eshop sites😅
@moonlalune8003 hahaha I get that luckily my wife is somewhat a gamer so she understands 🤣 but even that, I mean you can save money by getting the ps5 backbone controller for $130 CAD (where I live) and slap it on your smartphone and stream play through the ps app....or
...spend twice maybe 3 times that amount for a fancier version that sony will release that does exactly the same thing 🤷🏻♂️
Up here in Canada the Steamdeck is $499 while the ROG Ally is $899. That's too wide of a price difference for the ROG to be worth the extra cash.
Yeah that's too much, $400 and $700 down here.
@@DaveyG i got my rog ally for 220$
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@@mystdetectedirlaliexpress probably
If we could get a handheld with 5 hours of battery man...
Well you totally can, making sacrifices, but I see your point.
I can only wish on 80Watts batteries, with a better tech to being small and have low weight
Who has the time to game for 5 hours straight?
@@polo_sheridan2869 Maybe people don't want to charge every 2 hours their devices?
Depending on what you want to play the Deck does that easy. I’ll get nearly 8 hours when emulating GBA, and around 6-7 when emulating DS.
Indie titles and older AAA games will give me 4 minimum.
@@CaptainEffortswitch can last 5 hours playing demanding games... I mean, yeah it's a weaker portable but still...
Bro be honest you ate the whole cake right??
really educative and informative videos about type of mode to use accordingly for specific games
Thanks!
That cake looks pretty good
Incredible....
I wish it had an auto switch function.. so when I plug it in and it goes to turbo.. It goes to my turbo settings. And If I unplug it it goes to a lower profile you set up.
Make sure yours is up to date when I plug mine in it ramps to max wattage. You can also make customer power settings.
@DaveyG I know! But it works a little wonkey.. sometimes, it seems to forget after a restart. Meh will probably be fixed sometime
How's the gyro when playing fps games? Does it work with the game pad controls or is it just a separate mouse function?
It worked just like an Xbox controller
@@DaveyG So no gryo support in-game when playing with the ally controls??
@TheUltimateHacker007 9 months late but nope gyro is completely useless because of that
I just finished a 2 hours and 15 minutes FH5 session on my ARA running my APU on average of 8 watts and screen resolution 1080p @ a steady 120 fps max settings. Riddle me this? I just learned about this method a day ago but it appears as though this method has been around for some time. Streaming games from my gaming pc and also from my PS5 utilizing remote access and port forwarding on my router. These methods allow the pc/ps5 to do all the heavy lifting and the ARA to function as a 120hz screen with a joystick that can also run native game on a pinch if wifi is not available. Granted this may not be for everyone but tbh playing Jedi Survivor at an avg 90fps 1080p @ epic setting with ray tracing really shows the beauty of the ARA. PS5 @ 60 fps max'd setting on GT7 is sublime. Plenty of YoutTube videos on how to setup your ARA stream your pc/ps5. Cheers!
O yeah streaming is great, it really makes the device shine. Being able to do 1080 120 max setting in most games over wifi is sweet. You just need a great router!
disable cpu boost also lower refresh rate and lock fps in game . It does not work with every game i use it for cyberpunk at 15 watts 1080p low setting .
How is this devices battery when playing emulators, are you able to drop it below 10W to save more battery for less demanding games?
It's fine, if you lower resolution and framerate you get much more time.
If i use it for only Watching UA-cam at Lowest Power option ( 10w ) How Much Time Can it Last ???
Gaming laptop in a form of handheld is like saying this is a chair in a form of a table 😂😂😂😂
A laptop is called a laptop because it was made so you can use it on top of your lap.
A handheld is made so that you can use it while you held it in your hand 🤭
Maybe the $599 base Z1 Ally will have greater battery life and yet still be a step more powerful than the Steamdeck? Kinda on the fence here but I do have concerns about the reported ROG hardware issue. The dying SD card problem seems pretty bad. The other got yah's could be standard fair of Windows Update screwing you up. On my laptop I have many issues with the Xbox app changing the install locations for Gamepass. I also worry about what happens next with future Windows support. What if Windows 12 comes out and it requires more system ram. Has anyone tried Windows 10 on the Ally? Then there's the uncertainty of AMD drivers for this APU. At least Valve treats the deck as a console with it's own SteamOS which I hope can last over these newer Windows iterations. Otherwise I really love the freedom of having the full Windows experience to run everything but there are many caveats to consider in the long run. AynNeo offers 32GB of ram at a price too.
Many valid thoughts here. I would say, for things about hardware. Mine was totally fine and Asus has a great hardware warranty make sure you register it. On windows issues, I would say that it will have plenty of power to deal with OS modification for a while. Plus you can always roll back to stock and turn updates off. And if it's a comparison to other devices, this one is the most powerful you can buy currently. I think it's a great device but if you don't need the power go with the base model Deck.
Ya, same thoughts. Been looking for regular z1 ally review. But still not yet there perhaps.
I've dug deeper on the base Z1 it's definitely weaker than the Ryzen 5 7640U that's coming out which is 6 cores with 8 cu's vs Z1's 6 core and 4 cu's. That may mean the Z1 is a Radeon 740M vs 760M found on the 7640U. That's kind of a bummer comparing to the 780M 12cu's found in the Extreme or the 7840U. I only know of the GPD Win4 offering 6 core with 8cu's. Heck I'd be happy with a 6 core 6 cu's but 4 cu is going backwards.
@@DaveyG the base deck might be enough I guess to stream from a stronger pc and console for the price it offers. Amazon has cheap $15 256GB for the internal drive replacement even. I see some people even adding windows on it.
the SD card heat issue is real it is a design flaw
Where is the Wattts thing that you are mentioning
So the best is for what for diablo 4?
Best, I ran it on both. The Asus has better specs, but is more expensive as the steam deck gets you 85% there.
Battery last a hour and a half playing new games. Thats why it has a cord.
Not even!
I find the battery argument funny. This will play your AAA games that need powerful pcs very well but people say we'll I only get an hour of battery time. Well yeah that's what I expected. It's a pc and acts like a pc. The device is an amazing 1st gen console from Asus but as AMD improves it's power management the devices will get better. For me I'm loving it and it's replaced my AMD/Nvidia 1070 pc
I feel like it's going to do that for many people. It's great!
But that battery life is a deal breaker for many, I ve said it before: the battery technology is not up to the performance and graphics of these devices, i mean the original game boy could last 30 hours of battery.
@@natanhaelalvarado6137 this is not a device for game boy users. It's not a device for console/switch users. This is a pc that fits in a bag to play AAA games on the go. Remember when the switch came out it got blasted for low battery life?
This is one of the 1st gen gaming pcs of this form factor that has got nothing but positive reviews and a very good price point. Things will improve over the next 10 years and if Microsoft also make a gaming version of windows this will also help improve things. If the battery is an issue for you then it's not the device for you but show me something that can do what the Ally can do with 4 or more hours of battery life?
For me playing rocket league at 10w gets me close to my little boys switch playing the same game but with better graphics for me thats a win. Yes playing Halo or Forza I need 25w to get max fps and only get an hour out of it but again it's what I expect for the power it is using.
@@james8606 thats why i think its better not to buy the first gen. the reason we go handheld is for flexibility but if the battery is terrible then , there is no flexibility at all.
its like , if you are a truck driver that deliver a package. and then you decide to deliver using motorcycle since its more flexible to get around using bike .but it turned out that the package is too many and you cant take all of them at once.
so you have to go back to warehouse many times compared to using truck.
PS: "This is one of the 1st gen gaming pcs of this form factor that has got nothing but positive reviews and a very good price point."for this of comment. i think you only feel the excitement of joyness because u feel awesome to play pc games in handheld mode. but such joyness wont last long after you get used to it.
@@VinVin21969 I get what you are saying but disagree. The Rog Ally was the device I wanted and fits my gaming style. I don't spend hours gaming due to having a family and busy life but over the last 5 years I have spent less and less time gaming. Since getting the ally I have found it works amazing in docked mode where I want a longer gaming session and if I just want to spend an hour playing a game before bed or with my little one I undock it and battery lasts that time.
1gen is not for everyone but without people supporting 1st gen 2nd gens don't get made and everything can be improved
That goofy looking d-pad always make me laugh.
I also hate the gloss on the dpad.
40 minutes! I know, because I have one. The battery life is pathetic!. This is one reason why the switch is beating the hell out of the ROG AND Deck.
Yeah sure.
We all want 4k gaming 120fps on a handheld but cannot comprehend that level of power needs, huh, power.
So 30fps 720p 6h or 4k 120fps 1h, choose.
Because you cannot simply drive a car 300 miles and then complain on the fuel consumption if you are travelling with the accelerator all way down.
The OLED Deck has good battery now, at least! Speaking of which, I'm selling my ally for this reason. Freaking lame battery. Their new "ally x" is advertised as having 2x the battery life which would still only be an hour and 20 minutes 😂
@E55666 yeah, the oled deck battery life is boss! Best on a pc handheld right now. I love the ally. It's way better than the deck, but the battery life is atrocious. I'm going to sell my ally and by the ally x.
I immediately clicked off the video when you started that whispering moist sh*%
What's the response your looking for here?
this is should be april fools product