7:20 Is false. Funny how shady manufacturers try to confuse the layman to skirt ratings/conception. Let me just say, DON'T USE mAH rating. Use WH instead. Reason? Because it takes into account of VOLTAGE. There's no easy way to know the voltage for mAH, unless the manufacturer is transparent. Steam deck uses 5313mAH AT 7.7V
This is helpful. Was almost going to get a 30W charger for my ROG Ally but I realize that isn't quite fast enough and the battery would drain while charging.
Watt hours is handy cos you can estimate battery life. Eg. Running a system at 10W with a 40WHr battery would give you roughly up to 4hrs battery life. 20W would be up to 2hrs etc...
Rog ally cant run at 10w. For instance minimum apu package power u can set is 9w. Therefore 9w + 6-8w(screen,fans,other hardware). Now you can use that formula wh/watts.
1:56 you’re not gonna get 4 charges from that power bank. It’s roughly 90wh against 40wh on the SD and ally. 2 charges max. Mah isn’t an accurate comparison due to nominal voltages
This is a nice power bank but it's overkill for the Ally. It's meant more for a gaming laptop. I rather get a 30,000mAh+ at 65W for a way cheaper price.
@@timaaaahhhhseriously though. I thought I had defective products first time I tried Ally with a big battery. Even at 30k it’s like pouring water slowly into a drain
@@timaaaahhhhForeal my Ally dies after 1 hr 30 mins plugged on Anker power core elite III .Ally battery dies faster than it charges I probably need to change my usbc cable tho but it always dies and pd bank still has juice in it
@@johnnyrodriguez276 ya need to onli play the Ally on 15W or 18W when using the power bank if you are expecting good battery life. If you know you're only needing to play it for 2 hours or so with a power bank then yeah sure go right ahead with Turbo mode at 25W or even 30W if that works.
I bought 737 thinking it was a big PB in discounted price (like 30-40% off due to black friday + they are being discontinued) that I might need in niche situation not even realizing that this is what everyone use for PC handheld PB. Kinda regret not buying the new gen, but they are really expensive (old 737 24kmAh, new 737 27mAh).
Yes it had hours of battery life because it consumed less power. We could make a pc handheld with as much nattery life as a ps vita. It would either have a large laptop battery that with make it weigh multiple kgs or we could make it drain extremly little power that would tank the performance. So ye set your ally to a 1w tdp and your good to go 30 hours of battery life and 1 frame 144p lowest settings :)
Any pd cable is fine even if it’s rated for less than 140 like 60 or 90 I have had no issues with my MacBook taking over 100 watts of charge from a cheap Walmart pd cable rated for 65 watt fast charge
I use a simple realpower powerbank with 20 W and 20.000mah atm. Ordered a baseues 65W on sale for 50 bucks but it was broken (doa). I got the money not a new one but now it costs 70 bucks. I would prefer anker here. I often read on amazon that they get broken ones (from baseus). The simple 20w realpower powerbank works like a charm. I mostly play at 15-20w. It still use some power from the ally but very slowly (at 15w). Ofc with 25w it is another Story. On 15 watt i played 2 hours, the powerbank had still 50% and my Asus 89%.So i would say i could play 4 hours with it.
Is the Romoss Sense 8PS PRO 30000 mAh 30W good enough? It's half the price of the anker powerbank. Spending more money than 50 bucks on a powerbank makes no sense,you might as well just get the rog ally x at that point.
Watt hours is the better way to look at it when it comes to portable drvices, especially when your talking about watts consumed and its easier to calvulate as well, still good start on videos
And you forget about dock stations - if you want to use them with ROG Ally (for connecting peripherals, more storage, faster and stable LAN connection etc.), you need MORE than default 65W. Ttat's the reason to trash away bundled charger and buy 100W one.
If you're running a dock with things plugged in, like keyboard, mouse, etc, you may want to go with a 100W device since the Ally will take up to 65w. I've seen videos where they used a 65w power bank but the Ally could not run at full power because the dock was taking some of the power.
a bit overkill honestly, rog ally only take PD3.0 charging, it won't take PD3.1 charging speed. better to get a larger capacity with 65W charging speed rather than over 100W speed for the same amount of money
I mean there’s merits to a faster bank provided it charges itself at that speed. A 100w out 65w in wouldn’t be worth it, but 100 out you’re only using 65 of would recharge faster provided it has 100 in
I tried this route with a 30000 milliamp 65 w beerus The Ally did not like the 65 w it wouldn't treat it for turbo mode at 30 w it reduced it to a 25 W so whoever is reading this comment and seen mine just go with the power bank in the video or don't touch the 65 w 30k beerus if you want true turbo mode
Batteries have a power efficiency curve, typically the closer you get to the max output capacity, the less efficient the battery is able to deliver the power. The benefit of using something like 140w to charge a 65w device is that you’re under 50 percent of its maximum capacity and therefor, far more likely to be within an efficient battery output curve. Meaning you’re able to take advantage of more of the battery’s overall capacity.
@@Ziyoblader anything that isn’t the official charger currently does that. But if you’re trying to go 30w turbo on anything other than wall power you’re gonna have a bad time anyway
Thanks for this vid. What im still confused about is, for instance, i have a new 65w 20,000mAh power bank from Amazon. Also have the same 100w USB-C cable as you. I pre-ordered the ROG Ally and wondering if the USB-C port combined with the cable can actually hit 65w to charge the Ally. I tried it on my 45w phone and it was only charging at 16-17w the whole time from dead to 100%? Can you explain why im not getting the 45w i get with my traditional wall outlet 45w charger?
So this depends on the device but for the batteries health the device usually will only allow it to be charged so fast if that makes sense. Certain batteries are made to have "fast charge" like my old motorola phone i had had fast charge but then my other phone I got later didn't. It's all up to the manufacturer. I am almost certian you will get the 65 watts to the Ally when it comes 👍
Anker 737 is 86.4 Wh , Ally is 40 Wh . So you can charge the Ally for 2 times to 100%. If you get 2 hour runtime on your ally , you should get total 6 hours with the power bank.
If you put the Ally on the powerfulest performance 30 watt you'll probably get 4 hours out of a 50000 ma playing a game like Diablo 4 on custom low settings at 1080p with uncapped framerate
24,000mAh for this device looks like a joke to me. I mean - two hours of heavy gameplay instead of ~40 mins is good, but it's nothing when your train ride takes 6 hours for example. This powerbank fits mobile phones better. Yep, more powerful powering device is bigger and more heavy, but it's worth it.
What are you saying? This could charge the ally fully while playing it at full turbo at least once. So you get the 40 initial minutes, the 2 hours it takes to charge while playing and then 40 more minutes on battery. And that’s playing in turbo with screen brightness cranked. This powerbank will work exceptionally well with the rog ally or steam deck imo
Probably get 2 full charges. So maybe get 4 hours of gameplay if the ally is charged before. Depends on the game but with a more demanding game I would guess it would extend it 3 hours.
I saw a teardown of the 737 and was disappointed to see 5 lower grade chinese 21700 cells. With 140w input for charging these 5 cells would cop an absolute hiding and doesnt inspire much confidence in terms of longevity. For perspective I run a custom built powerbank that doses only 100w in for charge and uses 8x panasonic 21700 cells and even this gets quite hot. For the money you pay it just doesnt make much sense to me its extremely expensive and will become ewaste.
I have a shargeek storm 2 and an anker 773 power banks both capable of more than 65w output or at least 65W, I cant get the ally to charge onles the power banks are plugged in, in the case of the storm 2 I cant even use it. I have used both to charge my macbook pro with no issues whatsoever and I cant seem to find the problem why the ally is not accepting the charge.???? any suggestions ???? Also cables are rated for 100W
Have tried turning OFF Asus Batterycare? In the MyASUS app, Head to the Customization tab and turn Battery Care Mode off. This mode ON will only charge the device to 80%, which will reduce wear on the battery over time
I wanted to know the answer to this and found this on googe - Power banks taken on board flight must not exceed the 100Wh limit. Looks like a no sadly :(
@@daftclubs I looked on google, people say they it is allowed on planes and they haven't had trouble bringing it as carry on luggage. The rating printed on the device is 86.4Wh so its good to go. I see other PC handheld channels recommend this power bank while traveling and they haven't had any issues so I think its safe.
you need a 65watt otherwise the device doesnt really charge consider it this way look at the charger packs then come with laptops , these powerpacks are designed to charge laptops@@poopie3405
Ordered it from your recommendation, and it 40% off today. $90.00 Glad i came across this video. 🙌🏾
7:20 Is false.
Funny how shady manufacturers try to confuse the layman to skirt ratings/conception.
Let me just say, DON'T USE mAH rating. Use WH instead. Reason? Because it takes into account of VOLTAGE. There's no easy way to know the voltage for mAH, unless the manufacturer is transparent.
Steam deck uses 5313mAH AT 7.7V
5 Head
❤️ I hope you have a degree in this because sir you are brilliant
that one looks pretty beefy for what i neee but it's around my price range so it's tempting
the title says ally but you are showing the steam deck... I get it, steam deck is really good, but misleading if you are not showing the ally
This is helpful. Was almost going to get a 30W charger for my ROG Ally but I realize that isn't quite fast enough and the battery would drain while charging.
Watt hours is handy cos you can estimate battery life. Eg. Running a system at 10W with a 40WHr battery would give you roughly up to 4hrs battery life. 20W would be up to 2hrs etc...
Rog ally cant run at 10w. For instance minimum apu package power u can set is 9w. Therefore 9w + 6-8w(screen,fans,other hardware). Now you can use that formula wh/watts.
1:56 you’re not gonna get 4 charges from that power bank. It’s roughly 90wh against 40wh on the SD and ally. 2 charges max. Mah isn’t an accurate comparison due to nominal voltages
This is a nice power bank but it's overkill for the Ally. It's meant more for a gaming laptop. I rather get a 30,000mAh+ at 65W for a way cheaper price.
Nothing is "overkill" for the ally. That battery is done on a AAA title in like 50 minutes.
@@timaaaahhhhseriously though. I thought I had defective products first time I tried Ally with a big battery. Even at 30k it’s like pouring water slowly into a drain
@@timaaaahhhhForeal my Ally dies after 1 hr 30 mins plugged on Anker power core elite III .Ally battery dies faster than it charges I probably need to change my usbc cable tho but it always dies and pd bank still has juice in it
@@johnnyrodriguez276 ya need to onli play the Ally on 15W or 18W when using the power bank if you are expecting good battery life. If you know you're only needing to play it for 2 hours or so with a power bank then yeah sure go right ahead with Turbo mode at 25W or even 30W if that works.
@@volcalstone Yeah I know that..I still rather play on Turbo mode just wished the battery lasted longer
If expecting to use in turbo mode when docked along with inputs, external storage and HDMI output. 65W PS is probably not enough.
I bought 737 thinking it was a big PB in discounted price (like 30-40% off due to black friday + they are being discontinued) that I might need in niche situation not even realizing that this is what everyone use for PC handheld PB. Kinda regret not buying the new gen, but they are really expensive (old 737 24kmAh, new 737 27mAh).
Thanks for the review... i have this on my amazon list to get for my Asus ROG Ally... :-)
Portable is not becoming portable if you carry all that. We def need another psp vita the daddy of handhelds that thing lasted hours
Yes it had hours of battery life because it consumed less power. We could make a pc handheld with as much nattery life as a ps vita. It would either have a large laptop battery that with make it weigh multiple kgs or we could make it drain extremly little power that would tank the performance. So ye set your ally to a 1w tdp and your good to go 30 hours of battery life and 1 frame 144p lowest settings :)
Just ordered thanks to you amazon had a bundle deal with the power bank and same cable so i bough the bundle
Nice!!
Any pd cable is fine even if it’s rated for less than 140 like 60 or 90 I have had no issues with my MacBook taking over 100 watts of charge from a cheap Walmart pd cable rated for 65 watt fast charge
I use a simple realpower powerbank with 20 W and 20.000mah atm. Ordered a baseues 65W on sale for 50 bucks but it was broken (doa). I got the money not a new one but now it costs 70 bucks. I would prefer anker here. I often read on amazon that they get broken ones (from baseus). The simple 20w realpower powerbank works like a charm. I mostly play at 15-20w. It still use some power from the ally but very slowly (at 15w). Ofc with 25w it is another Story. On 15 watt i played 2 hours, the powerbank had still 50% and my Asus 89%.So i would say i could play 4 hours with it.
Any link to the power bank you bought?
Am i to ignore that the video says rog ally but you are using a steam deck?
Yes because the asus wasn't out yet haha
Thank you I needed this video
Is the Romoss Sense 8PS PRO 30000 mAh 30W good enough? It's half the price of the anker powerbank.
Spending more money than 50 bucks on a powerbank makes no sense,you might as well just get the rog ally x at that point.
great video, thanks for the explanations , I've ordered one for my RoG Ally
which is better this one, or the 65w and 30000 mah from baseus?
@@luisgabrielmxm I would lean towards the anker 737 but the baseus is still a decent option and slightly more portable/smaller
Watt hours is the better way to look at it when it comes to portable drvices, especially when your talking about watts consumed and its easier to calvulate as well, still good start on videos
I would say get 75w or 100w charger with more capacity(mah/wh).
And you forget about dock stations - if you want to use them with ROG Ally (for connecting peripherals, more storage, faster and stable LAN connection etc.), you need MORE than default 65W. Ttat's the reason to trash away bundled charger and buy 100W one.
i already have the baseus 30000 mah 65w should be good as the ally doesnt draw more than that
That's perfect! just make sure the cable can match that output!
If you're running a dock with things plugged in, like keyboard, mouse, etc, you may want to go with a 100W device since the Ally will take up to 65w. I've seen videos where they used a 65w power bank but the Ally could not run at full power because the dock was taking some of the power.
a bit overkill honestly, rog ally only take PD3.0 charging, it won't take PD3.1 charging speed. better to get a larger capacity with 65W charging speed rather than over 100W speed for the same amount of money
Exactly
I mean there’s merits to a faster bank provided it charges itself at that speed. A 100w out 65w in wouldn’t be worth it, but 100 out you’re only using 65 of would recharge faster provided it has 100 in
I tried this route with a 30000 milliamp 65 w beerus The Ally did not like the 65 w it wouldn't treat it for turbo mode at 30 w it reduced it to a 25 W so whoever is reading this comment and seen mine just go with the power bank in the video or don't touch the 65 w 30k beerus if you want true turbo mode
Batteries have a power efficiency curve, typically the closer you get to the max output capacity, the less efficient the battery is able to deliver the power. The benefit of using something like 140w to charge a 65w device is that you’re under 50 percent of its maximum capacity and therefor, far more likely to be within an efficient battery output curve. Meaning you’re able to take advantage of more of the battery’s overall capacity.
@@Ziyoblader anything that isn’t the official charger currently does that. But if you’re trying to go 30w turbo on anything other than wall power you’re gonna have a bad time anyway
Yup I bought this one and love it for my ally
Is it good?
Is it for charging while playing
Cuántas cargas te da o cuántas horas seguidas en cuál juego
Thanks for this vid. What im still confused about is, for instance, i have a new 65w 20,000mAh power bank from Amazon. Also have the same 100w USB-C cable as you. I pre-ordered the ROG Ally and wondering if the USB-C port combined with the cable can actually hit 65w to charge the Ally. I tried it on my 45w phone and it was only charging at 16-17w the whole time from dead to 100%? Can you explain why im not getting the 45w i get with my traditional wall outlet 45w charger?
So this depends on the device but for the batteries health the device usually will only allow it to be charged so fast if that makes sense. Certain batteries are made to have "fast charge" like my old motorola phone i had had fast charge but then my other phone I got later didn't. It's all up to the manufacturer. I am almost certian you will get the 65 watts to the Ally when it comes 👍
is that anker powerbank good enough to charge the steamdeck
Definitely
If it's good enough for the rog ally then it's good for the steamdeck
People store money in that?
Power haha like energy to charge the device!
@@catswan2695 I love charging my money
@@jason18337😂😂😂
140 watts 😨
This powerbank..support Rog5s hypercharge 65watt?
Whatever would get me a couple hours i would be cool. I get yelled at when gaming for more then 10 minute's lol. 🍻🍻
Can any of these banks keep the ally at 100% while playing?
Does it matter just use the fn one you bought for the steam deck
Are you referring to the cable? or a power bank :)
Can I connect a17" monitor and the ROG ally with this?
Si
65 w 50000 ma powerbank is ok for performance mode?enough for all day play?
That's a good question! i can run some tests when my ally arrives
Anker 737 is 86.4 Wh , Ally is 40 Wh . So you can charge the Ally for 2 times to 100%.
If you get 2 hour runtime on your ally , you should get total 6 hours with the power bank.
If you put the Ally on the powerfulest performance 30 watt you'll probably get 4 hours out of a 50000 ma playing a game like Diablo 4 on custom low settings at 1080p with uncapped framerate
24,000mAh for this device looks like a joke to me. I mean - two hours of heavy gameplay instead of ~40 mins is good, but it's nothing when your train ride takes 6 hours for example. This powerbank fits mobile phones better. Yep, more powerful powering device is bigger and more heavy, but it's worth it.
What are you saying? This could charge the ally fully while playing it at full turbo at least once. So you get the 40 initial minutes, the 2 hours it takes to charge while playing and then 40 more minutes on battery. And that’s playing in turbo with screen brightness cranked. This powerbank will work exceptionally well with the rog ally or steam deck imo
better off building your own for far less
Anker 537 ok?
okay, im a total noob. How many hours does this powerbank add to the rog ally?
Probably get 2 full charges. So maybe get 4 hours of gameplay if the ally is charged before. Depends on the game but with a more demanding game I would guess it would extend it 3 hours.
I saw a teardown of the 737 and was disappointed to see 5 lower grade chinese 21700 cells. With 140w input for charging these 5 cells would cop an absolute hiding and doesnt inspire much confidence in terms of longevity. For perspective I run a custom built powerbank that doses only 100w in for charge and uses 8x panasonic 21700 cells and even this gets quite hot. For the money you pay it just doesnt make much sense to me its extremely expensive and will become ewaste.
Is it able to charge with one of those compact 65w anker wall adapters?
Yes it will just charge it slower than what it's capable of
I have a shargeek storm 2 and an anker 773 power banks both capable of more than 65w output or at least 65W, I cant get the ally to charge onles the power banks are plugged in, in the case of the storm 2 I cant even use it. I have used both to charge my macbook pro with no issues whatsoever and I cant seem to find the problem why the ally is not accepting the charge.???? any suggestions ???? Also cables are rated for 100W
Do you mean the anker 737 doesn't charge your Ally???
Have tried turning OFF Asus Batterycare?
In the MyASUS app, Head to the Customization tab and turn Battery Care Mode off. This mode ON will only charge the device to 80%, which will reduce wear on the battery over time
Can you take it on the plane?
I wanted to know the answer to this and found this on googe - Power banks taken on board flight must not exceed the 100Wh limit. Looks like a no sadly :(
Or on a train
@@daftclubs I looked on google, people say they it is allowed on planes and they haven't had trouble bringing it as carry on luggage. The rating printed on the device is 86.4Wh so its good to go. I see other PC handheld channels recommend this power bank while traveling and they haven't had any issues so I think its safe.
@@daftclubs
100wh = 27000mAh
take it on a plane or check my math
You can take it on the plane I took 2 to miami no problems
This thing doesn’t charge well while playing, I have a legion go
too expensive , 20$ is max for battery pak
thats way to cheap to actually be worth it 70 max
Do you actually need 65 watt battery bank or is a smaller bank sufficient?
to play and charge im pretty sure you need 65 watts@@poopie3405
@@poopie3405for the rog ally you need 65w to get the 30w turbo mode and higher manual clocks
you need a 65watt otherwise the device doesnt really charge consider it this way look at the charger packs then come with laptops , these powerpacks are designed to charge laptops@@poopie3405
Can you recommend a powerbank under 80 dollars which I can play at turbo 30 watts