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- LIVE COURT CAM: MA v. #KarenRead - DAY 11 - Testimony continues in the murder trial of Karen Read. Read is accused of murdering her boyfriend, Boston Police Officer John O’Keefe, whose body was found in the snow outside of another Boston officer’s home in Canton, Massachusetts.
Prosecutors allege Read hit O’Keefe with her car and left him to die in the snow. But Read’s defense team says she never hurt O’Keefe and that she is being framed by the true killers, who may have been inside the house where his body was found.
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00:00:00 MA v. Karen Read Day 11
00:15:10 STATE WITNESS #28: CAITLIN ALBERT -- Cross continues
00:55:16 STATE WITNESS #29: TRISTIN MORRIS -- Caitlin Albert's boyfriend
01:27:20 STATE WITNESS #30: SARAH LEVINSON -- Friend of Brian Albert, Jr.
02:55:03 STATE WITNESS #31: JULIE NAGEL -- Friend of Brian Albert, Jr.
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00:00:00 MA v. Karen Read Day 11
00:15:10 #28) Caitlin Albert - Brian Albert's Daughter
00:55:16 #29) TRISTIN MORRIS, CAITLIN ALBERT’S BOYFRIEND
01:27:20 #30) SARA LEVINSON, FRIEND OF BRIAN ALBERT JR.
02:55:03 #31 JULIE NAGEL, BRIAN ALBERT JR’S FRIEND
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This is so GOOD of you! Thank you!
2:29:07 back from lunch
Why did CourtTV alter the audio after the Prosecution stated “The commonwealth calls Tristan Morris…”, when you can hear “he’s bound to mess up”?
The Alberts .....acute memory loss......the whole clan.
I totally agree with you.
Along with ALL of Brian, Jr’s friends 🙄
I am sure that's under the advice of their attorney which he basically made them look uncreditable, dumb move.
Absolutely disgusting isn’t it! Makes me sick to think we can’t trust fellow law enforcement officers to protect us!
U know it....😮.
I don't see how each witness can be trusted to not disscuss the case amongst themselves outside of the courtroom when many are family to one another or close friends
That’s what’s so bad, they are discussing it, they are all thick as thieves, and can’t be trusted! Shame on them for being our leaders of law enforcement and supposed to be trusted
U betcha 😉.. talking and planning for 2 yrs
Without a doubt they all talked
Oh see none of them actuallly know each other…rarely do they talk, it’s mostly acquaintances 😂
Did you mean discuss rather than disscuss? The jurors are not allowed to discuss the case. There is nothing to stop the witnesses from discussing the case. Haven't you watched trials before. Judges only remind the jurors not to discuss the case or view anything about the case.
My mom always told me that nothing good ever happens after midnight when alcohol is involved. 🙂
I'm from Australia and ive never seen so many people who cant recall, dont remember or dont know .....tristan looks scared
tristian is a meathead
Don’t know what that has to do with being from Australia but okay.
Those are called lies.
Watch a US Congressional Hearing on anything! You see it there, but pretty much ONLY there. Lol
@@jeannieg1852Hopefully you don’t mind that I am watching from Europe and as well have never seen so many people with dementia!
Very interesting how Caitlin always looked 👀 to the prosecution team for an objection. No effort to answer. She’d look, they’d object and of course the judge ALWAYS sustains it. Surely she’d only be looking at the prosecution team after/as they are objecting. It’s as though she was leading them. Caitlin is so smug and clearly been coached over and over.
Ya she had them wrapped around her fingers.
It was so obvious
This is so sick. This is how they want to raise their children? To be dishonest, cheaters with no integrity!!
Man caught in a deep lie. “I’ve never been to their home.” “But you drove their daughters around and pet sat their dog at their home correct?” “Yes” “so the answer to my previous question is actually yes?” “Yes”
At that point right now. Unbelievable
Someone PLEASE explain to me how THIS JUDGE thinks this crap is ok??? She’s laughing on top of that, but how does she expect the Lawyers to put on a case, when she’s not allowing them to even ask a question!!!! I’m beyond furious with this circus! And if I was anyone involved in this case, I’d have her removed immediately and ask for this case to be dismissed! Pure and simple if Karen Read is convicted, she has MORE THAN ENOUGH to get a appeal and have this overturned due to the lack of Judgment in this case
Exactly I wish she would be as thoughtful and neutral as the amazing Troconis judge she shoukd retire like Brian Albert did. .
The judge is family friends with the alberts
And why so long to get a judge to get Albert and Higgins cells. Then finally after warrant they ditch them
@@Jpfinn3408 right? I mean this is her job, but if she keeps this going much longer the media is gonna come unhinged’ because people are mad about this
I agree this judge is almost as horrible as the judge in the Delphi case - the notorious rogue judge Francis c. Gull
So boyfriend who needed to sleep to wake up and work at 3am came to pick her up between 1 and 2am? WTF? This would mean additional 1.5 hours of driving in snowing conditions
Totally agree. Greetings from Northern Ireland
Omg lies lies n more lies
And where are you going with this??
@@maanmohammad8459the ‘original plan’ wasn’t for him to pick her up. Then she called/texted him
Yep, either super inconsiderate girlfriend or there was a huge reason to get her out of that house
So nobody in this neighborhood where his body was found has surveillance cameras outside?
Apparently they stopped working that night. So much BS!
That’s my thought too
Man Ms. Nagel’s demeanor is cold as hell. If I realized I saw a man dying in the snow I’d feel so much guilt. She seems to care less.
Totally agree and she is so snarky with the defense!
Agree....she is part of a growing number of college age or there about, that haven't been taught any manners or respect to anyone. The way she refers to District Attorney Mr. Lally as "Lally" is a good example.
Omg I don’t even want to watch anymore!!!
Objection!! Sustained!!
😡😡😡😡
😅
I think the judge is doing a fine job. She’s been sustaining to the prosecutor just as much and Karen’s lawyers.
@@LouiseLLee I totally disagree!!
I’ve heard more sustained in one trial than I have the entire year of trials
Over the simplest questions !! I keep saying “why?” It’s insane
@@notbriannaroblox9095not to mention all of the unexplained ‘objections’. And, Kaitlin works for the AG’s office🙄
@@user-se1ev7my6fREALLLY? I didn’t know that!! I missed that! Hey! I’m happy enough that at least the Defense puts it out there for the jurors to hear. She may say Sustained, but it’s already in their Ears! 😇
@@mariap4828 if you go back to Friday’s video when she took the stand. One of the first ?’s she was asked was where she works. She said ‘the state’s AG office’ and I believe she said the ‘fraud division. Said she’s been there about 3 years.
@@user-se1ev7my6f oh my god! They’ve infiltrated Boston! Thank you.
I don't believe anything this Tristan Morris says !!! He's too argumentative and acting angry... He refuses to state a time. Whose nose itches that much also ? Wow. Liar !!!!
His testimony was painful to watch. He doesn’t know the difference between PM & AM
opiates imho
She is the only witness to his body (or an object to her at that time) and the first time she is called and testifying to this is today? Nuts
Probably because prosecutor is panicking and needs something new to give jurors. They really think ppl are this dumb to believe it.
@@amandameekhael AND to put 2 And 2 together next day AND to now just say it was a black object WaaaaL
The boyfriend needs to take better acting lessons 🙄
I don’t believe he was acting- he seems ---
Lmao this Tristan guy 🤣🤣🤣
Sheesh there was a lot of lying and non-answers today. And that judge sure is bias in favor of the prosecution!
Omg Caitlin is such a a brat - every little question she's asked she gets to glance at Lally and he objects and the Judge sustains EVERY objection! Do these idiots think it's not obvious to us?
So when Tristan backs out of the driveway..his lights would go right over the area where John was laying..
Tristan would say"I don't remember "😅
@@jghoul2538 Exactly, just like they didnt get all together to be on the same page..do they not even know how ridiculous they sound..Im going to stick by Mr Yenneti when he said to the Jury..wait for us :)
Then we have the Judge??
All these people get 5 Pinocchios for their testimonies. Geeeez us krist so frustrating
I got the impression the boyfriend saw something he wasn't supposed to see and is now scared and playing dumb
That’s the impression I got as well
I am sorry to be mean to someone I do not even know, but by God Tristan seems to be overwhelmed by any abstract logic thought. He seems to know car models better than the others though.
And amazingly he is the only member of that posse, who heard his phone during the night, like the majority of people on the globe in the smartphone era.
Tristan seems like he knows exactly what he is doing. Which is not being intimidated by the defense. He is answering the questions and not being vulnerable to the defense attorneys trickery.
@@melinabarry9527he looks extremely evasive
Stop that kid was never inside the house
I think a fight broke out in the basement between John and the guy who had the crush on Karen and John was killed and drug out onto the lawn/road to make it look like Karen hit him. The bully cop, and those who know, are covering for him.
Can be….
Not anybody on the witness stand knows anything about anything!
She saw a blob in the snow and never told anyone until months later and was never in court before today. Such BS. If she saw it, wouldn't she have called police to advise them?
She never saw a blob
How about that? She was never interrogated for eight months! What a sham!! Nobody wanted to know.nobody was supposed to know. Nobody was supposed to be questioned. Absolutely like nothing happened. What power and corruption
And then…she was Told to be quiet. She probably only told Proctor because she was afraid somebody else might have said what she said in the car.
Wow sudden onset dementia in all the Albert’s n their cronies
I think that the McCabe's told her don't say a word to anyone about this!🤔
Well Sarah is soooooo hostile with the defenders team. Thought she was nice and so convincing during prosecution as sounded sincere. Her complete switch in personality is alarming and now I’m adamant she is lying.
Definitely alarming. Extremely rude too with her demeanor.
@@amandameekhael 💯 agree with you. Hostile through and through! So many of the witnesses are. In fact, all the people so closely linked to the Alberts appear to have identical coaching.
Agree and what’s her problem? She said she doesn’t have to do anything legally. A person died and these people are pissed off for some weird reason. Like they’re being bothered. They need some class
How can no one see a person laying on the front lawn? Is it because he wasn’t there you think?
I legit thought this was a parody video while I was listening to it at work because i was only listening and not watching.
I thought why on earth is Bob from Bob’s Burgers on the witness stand? 😂😂😂
Sarah Levinson seems drugged, her reaction and answers are very slow. Not very sharp for being a nurse.
Interesting that the witness calls the prosecutor ’Lalley’ rather than Mr. Lalley.
The judge should never say “move along with this please” because she doesn’t like the questions getting heavy
I dont remember, here we go this is master proof they were coached to say I dont remember!!! Rigged, Rigged, Rehearsed !!!
This judge is a complete joke! My guess is after this case… well let’s just say that it might be her last case as a judge! Absolutely disgusting!!
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So in yesterday’s testimony she stated, “I made plans to stay the night with my parents” since it’s my brother’s birthday, and made out like she rode with her parents from the bar since her boyfriend had to go home and get up so early, due to snow plowing, but today magically !!!!!!! Now all of a sudden, she’s dying to get her boyfriend to come pick her up at 145 am the same night and time of this incident, ugh hello fishy!!! now she’s also aware that the snow is bad and he’s sleeping!!! Someone else see the problem with this????? 😮 I’m just amazed at the lack of decency in this so called group of people, that claim to be such great up standing citizens, who do no wrong! It’s such a disgrace, and these cops should all be fired immediately for the simple fact, they are drunks who drink and drive, and have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW TO INVESTIGATE A CRIME SCENE, but seem to have no problem committing perjury on the stand, lying to cover their own asses, not protecting a fellow officer (That I must say) is 10 times the man anyone of these so called officers have in a finger,they should all quit, but they need fired and held accountable at once!
And John’s mom and dad seem so sweet and caring, and you can see the hurt on their faces, I just hope they can see past the lies, and that they can get justice for John’s death, I would have a hard time believing one thing these cops are doing or saying at this point! I only wonder is the family thinking that or they still believe she is guilty, even if she did it, these cops let him down in my book. RIp John O’Keefe
Karen Read is guilty, may as well face that now!
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Why the hell does the judge suggest an objection?!?!? She said “was there an objection?”
As SOON as Auntie Bev hears the word OBJECTION she auto replies with SUSTAINED 🙄
😂😂😂😂🎉
These people are definitely not doing well on the stand. There's definitely a clear indication that the entire family has been treated differently. Bias and or prejudice for the consideration of lack of eye witness statements and questioning by investigators prior to them taking the stand. It's gross.
THE JUDGE SHOULD BE REMOVED!!
100%
Totally
Absolutely
I agree
Yrsss!!
The boyfriend doesn't remember anything but remembers NO BLACK HAT, NO CAR TAIL ,IGHT PIECES...COME ON HES HIDING SOMETHING
He also remembers “not looking down at the grass.” Which he volunteered to say on his own.
I love when he said he didnt remember where he pulled up to pick her up. Where else would it be?? Wow? There’s no other place but the driveway they eventually said
Jail time for each and every person who has been lying under oath!! Judge needs to be removed as she is clearly biased against Karen Read. Hopefully the jurors aren’t falling for all of this crap trial!!! Where is the EVIDENCE pointing??? 🤔 Looks like it’s pointing more towards the cops who were having “fun partying along with Drinking and Driving!!! Crooked on all aspects!!!!
Yes the cops want to give tickets and jail time for drinking & driving but it seems like they do it and they don't think nothing of it.
The judge is family friends with the Albert's. That's aunt Beverly to them. .. funny how they remember everything for the state but have dementia when it's the defense asking. Terrible set up
Absolutely,Tristen doesn't remember times or anything else, however he "clearly" remembers he never looked at the lawn! Bs!@@kennywoo9012
Karen Reed is number one Lying
@@deborahdixon863 you must be friends with the prosecutor, judge or perhaps the actual guilty party aka the corrupted cops lying through their teeth or maybe just downright blind!! 🤔🤦🏻♀️
Nagel..blinky blinky..cheeks getting red..fidgeting...she been caught in a lie(s)
Mhmmm. And caught in the dumbest lies. Like just stop making it worse, tell the truth.
so he has selective memory .. he knew he had to get up early but don't remember
I've never seen a judge after an objection has been made to ask the witness if they can answer it or not what the fu#@ weird 😵💫
Why are alot
of defense questions sustained..can someone explain please
Judge is biased.
@@amber800you misspelled ‘corrupted’!
Yeah I would simply just say it’s because the judge leans towards the prosecution very blatantly, even though she shouldn’t.
@@Moto_Family239Headed for a mistrial..,
The fact most eveeyone who was asked about how they drove in the snow said, "cautiously, 10 and 2." Maybe they should have decided who was using that phrase, instead of all of them, so it didn't sound so rehearsed.
Oh my goodness! I was just thinking the same thing. I heard a couple of other odd things they would say alike that people don't normally say. You can tell they all rehearsed the story well before their testimony.
Must be great for the Prosecution. They don’t even have to come up with “ Grounds “ for an objection. All they have to do is yell “ Objection” when they hear something they don’t like & it’s Sustained !
All of prosecutors witnesses are so pleasant until cross examination. Why so much attitude for no reason, as if they are the ones being prosecuted. Why can’t they just answer questions normally when they have nothing to gain or lose? They are ALL lying in one way or another, and for what I cannot understand! Just answer the damn questions!! So irritating.
No one saw John inside of that house I'm waiting on GPS data and admissible cell phone data from experts to see which side is credible
It is already available.
@@videos-li5ys i think they meant presented in this trial by the prosecution
Data showed him going up and down stairs… that’s why they keep mentioning the basement.
GPS will prove he never went inside the house.
I'm waiting for forensics to say that the injuries are not from an MVA
Karen's attorney is quite amazing...🎉
Mr. Albert really doesn’t know the phones are factory reset when you upgrade to a new phone?
It’s my belief that officer OKeefe was attacked by the Alberts dog and they didn’t want to be held accountable for the actions.. the wounds on the arm look more like animal than automobile injury.
Exactly. People on here saying it doesn't look like dog bites obviously hasn't seen German Shepherd and big dog bites. They are like slash marks. Not punctures. There would not be a outline of teeth like a human bite. Dogs bite usually with canines an pull. The human puts up arm to shield face. Dog grabs hold. Human is pulling arm away also. So...long slashes. Many youtube lawyer channels are covering this and have had dog experts, trainers of police dogs, and they all say the arm looks like animal bites. Repeated grabs by the dog. Not like a human nails scratch at all. Dog def was involved but then conveniently given away OUT OF STATE. And basement was "remodeled" couple months after also. So, I believe John came in contact with dog an was gonna hurt it tryin to get off or maybe he killed the dog or shot it....then Brian A went whacko an Higgins an Collin joined in beating John to death or near death an left him out there or put him out there. Then he also froze.
This trial is FULL of an Unbelieveable amount of Doubt!! Nothing here is “Reasonable!!”
She soothing herself by licking her lips and pressing them together it's a sign of soothing.. and that's when you do when you're very nervous about what you're saying
HOW is this “LaLLY” prosecutor a “prosecutor”???!!! He is terrible! His questions are redundant, repeats ridiculous phrases and words that are absolutely irrelevant! Even the judge had to intervene to say basically Please Stop describing the inside of the House! LaLLY is disorganized, unprepared, and clearly LaLLY has lost the attention of the jury! He’s worthless. He does not even speak like an attorney nor does he question or professionally articulate questions as a prosecutor!
Okay I’m going to go out on a limb here first for all those people who have no clue what a conspiracy by the law term means
Conspiracy exists when 2 or more persons join together and, or to form an agreement to violate the law,and then act on that agreement. The crime of Conspiracy was created to address the inherent dangers posed to society when they come together to join forces to commit a criminal act .
Okay let’s explore what a Cover-up means in the Law
Cover-up definition: Concealment of wrongdoing, especially through deception, withholding of information,and destruction of evidence,often accompanied by a refusal to cooperate with investigators.
A cover-up frequently involves obstructing justice.
I hoped I could help you to understand the definition of those 2 words and now maybe you can see how it did happen. Personally IMO 2 people come to my mind and have constantly been brought up in this trial is Michael Proctor and Jen McCabe. I have more than that in which I know as far as names but we only need 2 so there you go.
Free Karen Read = Justice for Officer John O’Keefe 🤟🏼💗 🤟🏼💙
About 30 people would have to conspire for this to make sense.
@@TopCat8877 No not at all
This boyfriend Tristan’s attitude and fake memory loss is really making that Albert family and the people in that house look guilty as heck.
ABSOLUTELY!
Yeah like he couldn’t rule out he was picking his gf up at 9pm??? And he couldn’t remember what the occasion was for group picture where they had their fists clenched!?
Or, Caitlin and Tristin are telling the truth which means John couldn't have been hit at 12:30pm. There's no way you could miss JO on the front lawn. The rendering of the house makes the front yard look huge. It's not that big. There's no way they would miss him IF he was there.
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This judge is SO BIASED!!! Every objection she substains! Half of them are justifiable!!! What the heck!
Agreed!
Maybe she is PAID to do that 🤔
Finally, someone has seen her black SUV outside of the house!
So she “says”
@@ash2theley69 i’ve been watching this trial every day since it started. I haven’t missed one minute, I think that the defense is doing a terrible job, almost every time they ask a question it is objected, and the judge has sustained! The defense have asked several questions over and over again as a confusing tactic, I also think the police did a terrible job as well, but I do believe that Karen hit John with her car, she found out about a month before that he was cheating on her and they had been fighting ever since & she had just enough to drink to hit him and go home and go to bed and then at 4 AM She realized what she had done,.. it’s the reason why she admitted to hitting him more than once and saying that it was her fault that this happened!! I honestly believe that it will be a hung jury and possibly another trial and she’ll get off just like Casey Anthony did because of reasonable doubt.. strictly my opinion of course but I don’t trust Karen, she’s sitting there, smiling and laughing day after day. Karma will be served one way or another.
That’s what I believe to. And I know that I’ve backhanded someone twice my size who sat in my passenger seat before and they had a black eye and looked like they went a round with Mike Tyson. I believe she could’ve done that extent of injury to John.
But the one lady that commented about how Chloe wouldn’t have been able to claw through John’s clothing. This is true. Couldn’t Karen have cut him while fighting in the SUV bc they both had cocktail glasses in the car?
@@Liljodi It’s going to be a “not guilty” verdict for Karen and you’re going to be confused just like you are most of the time in life. Actually concerning that you claim to have watched every second of this trial and concluded she’s guilty.
Coached coached coached!!!
Yes ! They ALL gave the same answers .. ‘not that I remember’ , ‘I can’t remember the time frame ‘ etc etc , clearly all coached
With all these people drinking and driving any of them could of hit John
The boyfriend is a tool. It’s so obvious that they have been told that they don’t need to comply. They are extremely bothered by having to answer to anyone. Dishonest parents dishonest kids. The whole case is botched.
Agreed
Why hasn't this been thrown out already? Oh yeah, because the judge is in on it!! I wonder if there's any Alberts or McCabes on the jury? 😁🤪🙄
Mr. Albert prep that snow shoveler real well! He can’t tell you anything he doesn’t remember times. Thank God you’re not as employer he doesn’t know when he supposed to show up and he doesn’t know when he showed up so his payroll must look zig zig.
Something is fishy with this whole family
Out of all the crazy stuff in this trial the most horrendous aspect is the prosecutor's judge. She could at least fake being unbiased. This trial will he overturned if Mrs Read is found guilty.
She should not be working this case.
The prosecutors’s judge?
U clearly aren’t watching this trial carefully . In this case it actually is what it seems. Karen did this
Even Karen admits Karen did it!
FALSE @@VeganNay3
There’s enough reasonable doubt. She’s overcharged.. The police should’ve gone in the house to try obtain any evidence that John was in the house. They could’ve found blood droppings, fingerprints on a glass or doorknob or wall or anything that could show he was in the home and possibly had an altercation with someone at BA jr’s BD party. Police hopefully obtained maybe some glass in the SUV to show maybe there was a fight in the vehicle and she backhanded John with her fist
I’m pretty SURE the police collected NOTHING of ANY use- except red Solo cups. 😮 New to Police and evidence work? Never had a crime scene in the Snow? In Massachusetts ? During 25 years?? And you use a LEAF Blower?? And don’t cordon off the scene? And don’t have a real investigation? And ask some questions w the witnesses all together?Top to bottom, lies and coverup! It’s too bad they poor man didn’t die on a neighbors front lawn.
Yanetti is on 🔥💪
The daughter n her boyfriend are well suited to each other. Both lying
And doesn’t she work for the attorney general office in the fraud department 🤣
Haha Tristan’s killing me
They really like to drink in Canton, it could effect their memory 🤐🤐
True indeed.
This reminded me of Alex Murdoch conviction and he thought he was above the law and he lied because he was a lawyer (criminal ) no one it’s above the law regardless of what your rank’s nor whom you are. Everyone should obey the laws period
I KNOW!! I’ve been telling my coworkers that bc I’m the only one watching but I felt it last week when the web grew!! I hated That guy Too!
I wonder if any of THEM are reading these.
@@mariap4828I’ve seen some family members all over posts on X!
why doesn't the prosecutor explain why he is objecting? He just objects and the Judge sustains and muffles the defense 93% of the time.
Not good with times but wearing a watch.
Theses people don’t miss a meal!
5 well-fed kids, $950,000 home, 4 cars & wife drives a Cadillac. Not bad for a police officer that retired at 52.
😂😂😂
Or drinks!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉
@@professorvoluck9311well they all look old as hell. None of them aged well. They all look pitiful. Guess all that drinking does that.
This whole case seems like reasonable doubt. Family of x-cops pretty sure they would be able to cover this up........
This judge is appalling !!
The missing shoe?! My guess is this.......
After John was killed by Brian and Brian and after they drug his body out to the flag pole his shoe came off and they couldn't find it right away to put it out in the snow with him. After seeing the video of the steps going out of the basement to the outside.....Im betting they found his shoe under them stairs!!
She’s smirky like her father. And did the dish out the gold good girl crosses. Yasss Karen stare her down. 😘
Caitlin has class and credibility, unlike KR.
Yes this judge is horrible.
Tristan might be on the spectrum
No one hears anything????
Colin Albert got dropped off and left immediately, according to these people
Tristan and Caitlyn both exposed themselves by saying “I didn’t look at the grass.” No one even asked them if they looked there LOL.
Why he wearing a watch he doesn't remember a time
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Is there an accident reconstruction video? I’m in Australia, and maybe my analysis isn’t correct but maybe since there is eye witness accounts of a black SUV which they saw “first seen near mailbox and later seen near flagpole “ my question is, did they see a car facing towards the driveway or it’s tail towards the driveway? The broken taillight is on the right side of the car. How is it possible that his body is found on the front yard and not on the road? Is there a blood trail from the road? Did KR reverse over the kerb to hit JO? I think defence should work on a possible scenarios that shows it’ll be nearly impossible to hit someone with the right taillight if the car is facing the letterbox because the broken taillight will be on the right side. If facing the other way though, JO’s body would have been found near the letterbox and not the flagpole.
Yeah I’m not understanding either if it went from driveway to flagpole it’s facing the wrong direction to back into someone
There was a video done by someone on UA-cam… and he said it would be impossible for a car to hit him based on the way his body was found and injuries.
There’s nothing wrong with your analysis. Federal investigators hired a professional reconstructionist who determined his injuries and the damage to the vehicle were inconsistent. The car didn’t hit him and he wasn’t hit by a car. There is also video of when and where her taillight was damaged, and it was hours after they claim she hit him.
LIARS !
Shes a smart ass
So everyone looking at shoes not to slip. Missed the 6ft man on the yard
Julie Nagel was blinking soooo much! She also kept looking down at her lap. It’s so obvious that she’s lying! They all are.
I swear to god this DA sounds identical to DA Binger from the Rittenhouse attempted persecution, It’s uncanny.
This bull (Nagle) keeps breathing in the mic, and whatta tude! Damn, do they just grow em that way out there?
If Brian Albert Jr and Julie Nagel both saw a dark SUV pull up in front of the mailbox and then move up to the flag pole, didn't they ever wonder who was in the car? And why would a car pull up after 12 AM?
because it was after 12 a.m. when all were invited back to the alberts?
How much food and drink does this house hold to handle this bunch wow I can't afford a simple daily buzz.......
He doesn’t remember which direction he drove to the house, doesn’t remember what door Kaitlin came from, doesn’t know how long he waited for her, but he’s absolutely positive that she was facing him while talking leaving the residence
😂😂😂
I want to know how long of a duration did Julie Nagel see the “black suv” in front of 34?
Yea, this trial is a train wreck. I think a jury would more than likely to consider vehicular manslaughter RA than than second degree murder. There’s so much the police have not done. And your right about the prosecution.
Manslaughter is an option for the jury in the charges.
Tristan doesn't remembered any times or doesn't remember anything..was it snowing "I dont know" Omg annoying
I go to a lot of trials and see many who sit where karen sits. They you can listen to watch and hear their attorney speak and read between the lines and without a doubt 100% know their guilty. None of this seems plausible that she killed her "cop" boyfriend. It's wrong knowing that the department will frame another cop so why not fram a woman who is dating the guy they want taken out.
Omg she is lying!!
Yeah everyone was looking down at their feet when exiting the house, and conveniently nobody nobody noticed John’s body on the lawn which would be very noticeable in the snow
The whole Kaitlin “I didn’t want to get snowed in at my parents” it’s not the storm of the century Kaitlin
So this guy said when he picked up his high maintenance gf he didn't look at the lawn,but then says he didn't see any tyre tracks in the snowy lawn, broken tail light ect needs to make his mind up.Also if thats true that means Kates car wasn't on the lawn too hit John.
Wow he touches his face a lot. And a lot of nose rubbing. He seems very uncomfortable. I would love to hear experts on witnesses and their demeanor. This dude would be a horrible poker player 😂