He is giving a totally unbiased review with NO financial incentives and we are the benefactors of his efforts. Praise is given when earned and due. I trust him more than the manufacturers! Ain't no hiding overpriced rubbish,you will be exposed! All we want is what we pay for?
i'll save him some time. dont buy these hipster bullshit "minimalist" sneakers. there so boring and have no character and i hate when i see someone wearing them. i'd say if you want a clean all white leather sneaker save yourself some money and get some classic adidas stan smiths.
Man, thank you for this video. I own 2 pairs of those sneakers in black. One achilles low just like in the video, and the other achilles high-tops. I bought the first pair in the early 2010s. I really loved the quality of it. I wore them for 3 years almost every single day. The upper part was in good shape but the soles needed resoling. Long story short I did resole them, didn’t like the result, because it made them even heavier than they used to be, and so I stopped wearing them. In 2018 I saw a good deal on achilles high-tops, so I bought them as well. I did not spot it right from the box, but after a few months of wear, I've noticed that the leather wasn't as rugged and resilient to harsh weather conditions as my first pair used to be. And after a year of day-to-day wear leather even got little cracks. Today I saw your video. After I finished watching it I took both pairs and compared the thickness of the leather on the upper part. I do not have the tools that you have, but even by touch, feel and look I can tell that the older pair is much thicker, sturdier and has more quality to it and the younger pair looks like the one in your video. From that I can conclude that the brand decided to cut some corners after getting some recognition, which is very sad because the initial idea of luxury minimal sneaker and the product itself was great. If you like I can send the older pair to you so you can review it for everyone to see the initial quality of the brand.
its not pretending. its having money you can throw away because you have it. Thats what luxury is. No one actually cares about the quality unless the shoe fell apart in a week. I have this shoe and would buy another pair lol
@@tatenda1803 yeah as long as people with mindless spending issues like you exist, these pseudo premium brands will keep making money, good on them then, they found the perfect exploitable targets.
@@luna-rk5sj N it isn't luxury is about getting attention and having clout. People who buy common projects associate with people who know common projects otherwise nobody would know
@@tdombui have you ever cooked any meat without seasoning? Thats what it smells like. Its nothing like what you think. (Having been with a burn victim, burning hair smells worse).
I used to work for Superdry. There was a leather jacket that cost like £2 to manufacture, they sold it for £600. David Beckham was seen wearing it, so they decided to ratchet the price up to £2000. Most of their clothes are manufactured in Turkey very cheap and sold for ridiculous profit. The quality is no better or worse than a much cheaper brand.
All you have to do is have half a brain to notice superdry clothes cheap and low in quality after walking in to one of their stores even if you don't work there.
Shanks are put in shoes for support. Attached on the insole board and mainly used in heeled shoes, they do absolutely nothing in a trainer as they’re completely flat. So it’s very strange and a waste of material.
This is the content that I didn't know I needed. Seeing you rip apart that sneaker was further proof-positive that companies overcharge for items where the craftsmanship is not worth it. Its sad but I'm glad that you've exposed it.
You say this like it’s some shocking revelation. OF COURSE these brands are overcharging you. You think Gucci loafers are fairly priced at over $700?! Why is any of this surprising to people here??
999thenewman I remember when my son was a toddler. Every time I was working he always put his head between my head and the work I was doing totally blocking my field of vision, just like Toaster The Cat. Lol
"it smells like burning flesh" Always be wary of a man who knows what burning flesh smells like and who owns a flailing knife that would fill Ramsey Bolton with jealousy... ;)
Erfi Anugrah Or he simply knows what it smells like because it has a distinct smell. Someone must have taught him that. He works with leather a lot, which is basically animal skin.
You pay $425 for a good looking sneakers but it turns out to be dog shit. All we want is durable products at affordable prices, is that really too hard in 21st century?
I think it'd be so interesting to see more luxury brands, just to really see who is just inflating prices and who actually is giving the 'luxury' product that they claim they produce (even though obviously a lot of the price is the name brand)
I've never heard anyone say that CPs are anywhere near the best quality you can get for sneakers. They're marketed as high-end minimalist shoes, they've never been about fancy craftsmanship or actual luxury.
@@P3storius You have never heard anyone ever say that? I've watched 5 UA-cam videos that literally compare other sneaker brands to cp Achilles lows to see "how they measure up".
@@an-9411 all I know about them is that they were pretty much the laughing stock of the online fashion community when I learnt about the existence of this subreddit
@@charliehascall65 He said around $124 but of course, they get it for less because of bulk orders. So maybe they cost around $80 a pair. Still a rip off because I got some recently for around $250 on sale and the build quality was so bad out the box the sole was damaged I returned them immediately and bought some direct from Italy for less than half the price. They were way more comfortable and I could feel the quality instantly. Svenson is pretty much exactly the same as CP in Europe and they cost like $180. Jaks imo look great in all white too and the cost like $120 or under. Seriously can't understand the hype behind CP it's probably just the brand name. My next pair of white sneakers will be Koio and Greats.
@@zub41r75 You don't get much better price on bulk orders. The difference between 500 to 2000 pairs per year can be significant, but after you reach certain number you don't get that much. For example the difference between lets say 10k to 20k is just few % at most. If you compare them to Oliver Cabell where they wrote the price breakdown it cost around 110$... so I guess common projects cost the same or slightly more. Claiming that the shoes you bought are more comfortable that CPs is not really fair since some shoes requires some breaking and you didn't really own them long enough.
Common projects profits roughly the same as other shoe makers. The high price is, because they are selling through retail stores. The wholesale price is usually at 60% RRP so Common projects are selling their shoes for around 240$ to retail stores instead directly to consumers like Koio, Oliver Cabell etc.
I've owned a pair of these, they're obviously over priced, but they aren't an uncomfortable shoe, and they do hold up fairly well for a pair of sneakers.
@@MrRockrazer I bought it for the design and for its fit anyway. For me I got my money's worth, it's obviously far better value than most streetwear shoes
Could you review KOIO shoes? They are often considered a competitor to Common Projects. I'm very curious if they are a better choice for leather sneakers.
Koio has more full leather. CP has softer leather. This guy is also incorrect in saying that chrome tan leather is cheap and bad. That's factually incorrect. Any tannery, say Horween, will charge you $0.50 or $1 more for veg tan but that's because veg tan takes longer to process, not because veg tan is higher quality. This guy also doesn't understand the difference between full grain and top grain.... CPs are more sleek, Koio thicker leather but slightly more stiff, and also costs less.
Not the ones who pride themselves in their quality- they’d be stoked to have a chance to show what’s actually under the hood, like Nicks or Whites etc.
@@madebyreuben3402 Its sad but its true nowadays you will be hated if being honest.People rather idolize the fake & liar people.Sugarcoat everything even though they knew it was wrong.
i just watched another video of your's, zach put you up to this haha no wonder the content seemed similar! Amazing work though man keep it up wish you the best
Although these items say "Made in Italy", the EU rules are such that products only need to finished in, in this case, Italy, to qualify as "Made in Italy". The majority of Dior ladies shoes are made in rural Romania in a factory Dior has there. They are taken to almost completion, then shipped to France for finishing, and marked "Made in France". When challenged, Dior was upfront about the process, said the technical skills in Romania were 2nd to none for cobbling, and that they were operating within the EU rules. I'm not sure the ladies who lunch would pay $2000 for Dior shoes if they saw "Made in Romania" on them.
Made in Italy only means so much nowadays too since it's filled with chinese immigrants, both legal and illegal. That's also how they were the worst european country affected by the pandemic.
@@luobomu9747 No, it's not at all the same as Swiss luxury watches, because they're actually made in Switzerland, and actually are luxury watches with extremely high quality engineering and craftsmanship behind them, usually entirely built by hand and require a lot of skill and precision to make them as good as they are. Don't compare a few pieces of of low quality leather and rubber to incredibly complex and accurate mechanical objects with hundreds of tiny moving parts all built and finished to perfection.
I have been lusting after some Saint Crispin boots, which seem to be some of the best made in the world. The only problem is they know it and charge accordingly.
Cause they are posers and brand name whores? You can buy real high quality Italian leather shoes or sneakers for under $200. It is cheaper when on sale also. Thursday, Greats, Goodman Brand, etc are all great companies.
People got scammed, again, by publicity, youtubers and influencers, damn! This is so straight forward that I love it! You should keep going with minimal sneakers man, there are tons in the market, Koio, Oliver Cabell, Greats, Crown Northampton (I do feel CN do great shoes tho) and some others. Thanks for this again.
Without having ever held a pair of Common Projects I'd guess that Koio is on par with CP at almost half the price. I suspect Greats would be one of the best value to quality ratio. Greats just don't have the lowest of profiles that is so desired.
York Tan personally I’m looking forward for him to order some Crown Northampton that will be really interesting as it’s a very old company and not this new hype trash overpriced.
Ha! I have those and actually did a review on many channel of them. They are really cool, and I would actually HIGHLY be interested in seeing this as well. (Though it'd still hurt my heart a little)
GrieverTV :. I have 2 pairs in the green nylon and desert beige color way. Absolute beautiful and luxurious shoes, sadly not everyone can style their fits with them. That's why the resale price is way under retail but i still absolutely love them
fear of god is trash. jerry lorenzo just steals other designers work. those shoes are rip offs of raf simons vandal hi's with a rick owens sharktooth sole added on (who he steals other designers from as well)
And Greats. I have Greats sneakers and Beckett Simonon dress shoes and would recommend both but I’m curious what this guy’s take is once he breaks them down.
I'm guessing 5 or 6 years ago, these would have "only" cost $150. In the intervening period, branded "luxury" good have gone up WAY more than inflation. Example : Burberry raincoats were c. GPB450. Then the new creative director came in, and immediately increased the price to GBP1,100. When asked why, he said that he needed to position his items as luxury, so they had to be in that price bracket. Same product. Just near 200% price increase.
When they first came out i think they were around 200. There were articles about it being sold at a lost to build brand recognition but pretty sure it was just marketing bullshit.
Makes sense to do that though, sad to say. Rich peoples income has grown faster than inflation, and the reason rich people buy products is to have something very few people have. So if you keep the price the same, you lose those customers.
@Ezra George no it's S O C I A L I S M when people make extra profit not because of their hard work, but because of their ties with the state or work for the state, because the money goes by the river and nothing needs to be done, they spend it as easily without thinking, for example, as Biden's son, who in Ukraine makes huge money on corruption schemes.
First time viewer very impressed THIS is the type of content we need i am tired of seeing expensive shoes with crazy prices that aren’t even worth the price
Dude if there were some other “sneaker heads” like my self here you’d be getting a shit ton of hate. The sneaker market/industry isn’t all that bull shit, it’s just these I’d say third party brands like the common projects that ‘downgrade’ the well over 2 billion dollar industry.
To shed light on the shank issue: Many factories use pre-molded texon insole boards with the shank glued between the layers of the midsole and insole boards. It’s pretty standard. The shank helps support the arch of the foot a bit bc the outsole has air pockets in the thicker heel area to increase cushion and also to reduce the weight of the shoe.
I'm not really sure who you've heard from about Margiela GATS being of quality because nothing in regards to leather from Margiela is of high quality. People buy from the brand because of the cultural value and unique little changes the brand does to preexisting designs. Not even any of my Pre-Diesal buyout of the company Margiela leather garments (5zip and boots) are of comparable quality to brands that specialize in this type of thing. I think it's important to understand that with fashion, you aren't buying an item as much as you're buying an idea.
TheGiantBunnysaid False, You obviously don’t shop / buy that much designer, it’s obvious when you look at Margielas next to other designer shoes in stores such as saks, Neiman Marcus etc the quality and construction is much better and of higher quality than other designer brands. In terms of designer clothing MARGIELA IS MUCH HIGHER QUALITY THAN GUCCI, PRADA ETC. Margielas are couture quality.
My replica lows are the best pair of shoes I’ve owned. Have golden gooses, YSL, CPs, Gucci, givenchy, Koio, every Nike sneaker you can imagine, even Minnetonka moccasins. Nothing tops them.
There's no point in doing this for luxury brands like SLP or Gucci, because their high price tag isn't due to perceived quality, but brand name. It only works for brands like Common Projects who's price tag is justified by their supposedly superior quality.
Common projects: we are the best leather high end sneakers Rose anvil: “destroyed in seconds” such a great vid btw, keep the good job, you should try with another fancy sneaker brands like greats, koio and that kind of stuff
A wise business man once told me: "Most brands are usually the same. You aren't paying for the materials, you're paying for the name." Also, I think that metal shank was in there to add weight to the shoe. Because apparently, the heavier the shoe, the more expensive it is
Of course you're often paying for the brand. I don't think anyone paying $425 for sneakers will think otherwise. But some people like to pay for the brand. They are not just buying a shoe, they buy the whole image that goes along with that. If that's what makes someone happy, I don't see the problem.
Some commenters here don't seem to understand that paying for a brand used to be justified--that is, a brand used to mean good quality. Nowadays brands are either resting on their laurels or they're just creating "recognition" from marketing.
when cp first launched, a pair of achilles were significantly cheaper than they are now by a couple hundred bucks iirc, at that price the quality makes a bit more sense. over time the tag's gone up without the product getting any more luxe
Yeah I got mine for about £150 in the sales a few years ago and for that they're fine. Probably similar quality to something like New Balance Made in UK/US full grain leather or SLP white minimalist trainers. They've become ridiculously expensive for what they are cos of hipster hype,
Common Projects is one of the brands I've always liked but never bought because of the price. New Republic makes a very similar version for $80. It's been compared plenty of times to Common Projects, would love to see a comparison video. So many have been done on New Republic's chelsea boot vs Common Project's boot but never seen it cut in half and dissected this way. Love the video.
@@NPFfumbi I am kinda glad maximalism is back with the dad shoes from Balenciaga and the rest. I would not wear them, but it sure makes a change from the boring iPhone-ish style of the past decade.
I like your new video format where you dissect and discuss component by component i.e. leather quality, followed by stitching and then insoles. It feels more organised and easier to take in info using this new format as opposed to your older videos where you dissect everything and discuss everything at once.
Adrian Villanueva there has been a couple of cobbler-type youtubers that have done similar videos on Thursday boots. They’re definitely worth the price you pay for them but not exactly matching the quality of the highest of the high end boots, which is kind of expected and not a deal breaker for most.
@@sk8rrockstar12 I'd say it's a deal breaker for boot enthusiasts as they are willing to spend 400+ and wear their boots regularly. If you really only see yourself wearing boots every once in a while, thursday is probably a good purchase.
i pulled the trigger on thursdays and am happy with the results for the most part. by no means a perfect boot. after a few pairs, leather quality on one pair was a little disapointing but not a deal breaker, another had stitching issues etc. but for the price i wouldnt complain. half the price of common projects but the same if not better quality in my opinion.
I’d like him to cut in half a playdium boot. Yes, we all want to know the higher end ones but especially if he’s spending his own money he needs time to recover wallet wise lol plus I am interested.
@@xenonram basically r/mensfashion. There are a few communities that exist that advise others about mens clothing and stuff and this shoe was considered by not only them and other youtubers as the best all white shoe.
I have a couple pairs and I don’t regret it. I own several pairs of “alternatives” and while you can get close, these are still the best minimal sneaker I can find.
AK Milli They are certainly not “trash” quality. I know this because you couldn’t name a better quality sneaker of this sort. Perhaps you means they aren’t worth the full retail price.
Jerry Jimenez I got a few of mine half price by getting 2nd hand. I noticed the later batches being stiffer on the upper, but I’m not sure if they changed production since I have 5-6 pairs from 2015 time.
I know CP is overpriced... but this is misleading. Chrome tanned leather is softer, easier to colour, better for the environment, more comfortable out of the box; and overall a better leather for most people. "this leather (Chrome Tanned) isn't good but Iron Ranger, aka the bestselling toughest boot of all time uses it" come on man. Any White sneaker is chrome tanned not vegetable leather, no synthetic colour (white, charcoal, black, navy) is made from vegetable leather. I love the minimalist sneaker look CP emulates, however the best value by a mile is "New Republic" For a minimalist sneaker its better quality than Cole Haan, Club Monaco, Thursday Boot's & Ecco. What do you think Common Projects costs to Produce?
I believe Hender Scheme does exactly what you're talking about where they take popular shoe silhouettes and recreate them with higher-quality materials. You should do one of their shoes!
HandandSew yeah, but it’s a sneaker. chuck a thicker insert in and you’ve got just as much support. it’s just a way to justify the price and make you feel like these are insanely comfortable although they seem thin. a pair of Dr. Scholl inserts wouldn’t be way thicker though.
salad. Not really. A shank is so that when you foot is bending the sneaker, it directs the arch strike to the heel. This is why it’s a stiff metal or wood piece and not “thicker insole” in regular shoes. Maybe go watch Bedo on UA-cam or actually make some shoes and you might understand it better. That’s one thing I wish this guy would do, he comes in with no knowledge and starts criticizing. After you actually make a pair or two of shoes or boots from scratch you understand why things are the way they are.
@@Stevieboy7 A shank is required for shoes with a heel block to prevent the sole from collapsing when you step. So high quality boots, dress shoes have shanks. A sneaker like this doesn't have a heel block, so a shank seems unnecessary.
@@asianbboy911 Yeah, also the make no secret of how their shoes are made. It would be rather uninteresting. Maybe if you cut up some vintage ones and compare them. But that would be just tooo sad.
In my opinion Common Projects despite the fact they don't offer the best quality are by far still the best looking "minimalist" white shoe, a cleaner design than anything on the market, the name lends a bit of mystique in that they're a little more of a niche solely in the shoe world and the cool little serial number thing looks great as well. For the style, they're among the most comfortable options outside of the Cabells for the extra width. Would love if they made a model that took into consideration your suggestions, but at the end of the day this is approaching money as no object at this price and if you want the best looking shoe in this style this is it.
Those ain't traditional sneakerhead kicks, but more of a "I'm a luxury person" type of shoe wore by the Instagram wannabe influencers.. but true, I'd get hella angry to be scammed like that 😂
I kinda get it, though. They derive clout from the perception of high quality material shit that costs a fortune. Take out the first half of that and you get a tool who spends close to $500 USD on a name.
Thank you for this one. I've always seen these shoes in boutiques in Los Angeles and they can never give me a reason as to why they cost so much. "It's premium Italian leather" and that's all I'll be told.
Yeah I remember doing a thorough search on internet to find the leather grade and all I found was Italian Nappa Leather. I learned about Full-grain, Top-grain from Rose Anvil channel so I always wonder what grade is Italian Nappa then.
another pair of expensive shoes that you could do is golden goose, there are many styles but if you did a more basic style like all star or ball star that would be insteresting to see if the quality matches the price
As a shoe recommendation: I think it would be interesting to see the leather Adidas Ultraboost. The idea of a leather running shoe is pretty interesting to me, but they cost about $200, so they're out of my price range (At the moment of writing this comment they're on sale for $140 on Adidas' website though, which is more reasonable).
leather is too heavy and generally not suitable for a running shoe. If you want them for running, look up what brands professionals use for running. Spoiler: it wouldn't be any of the big sneaker brands
yeah, I agree. Brooks and Hoka make very good running shoes. It's just interesting to me that Adidas took their flagship running shoe and decided to make a leather version.
Ultraboosts cost $180 at retail though now you can get them on sale for under $100. Don't buy them for the leather buy them for the comfort. And the leather on them looks really cheep.
You can always find them on sale. Just google your model and color. Other reputable sites sell ultraboost cheaper than adidas. And adidas.com just had 30% off sitewide couple a days ago and b4 that maybe like 6 weeks ago (get on the email list and you'll catch it next time). Ultraboost is THE most comfortable creation for walking and running. 9 outta 10 times i pick them over my designer leather kicks. Highly recommend ultraboost'19 and/or '20 to everyone who hasn't tried them yet.
These videos actually do make a difference. I thought it was only that customers knew what they were buying. No, some of these companies, for instance saint Laurent actually changed to doing stacked heals after their expensive +1k dollar boot was taken apart and shown to have a cheap hollow plastic heal. To be honest I said I’d never buy a pair of expensive shoes. But now the next pair of shoes I buy will be, and I’ll be able to have them repaired and wear them until I die.
This was crazy informative, these shoes are widely considered to be some of THE highest quality around lol. I think the aspect that makes people think this way is that they almost dont crease at all, would that be a correct assumption? better leather doesnt crease?
Some high quality leathers roll over instead of folding however within a shoe you cannot distinguish the quqlity without cutting it and seeing for yourself
Several of these "made in Italy" companies which have been owned by the same families in Italy for generations have been bought up by the Chinese. They own a huge chunk of the market, garment districts and "premium" Italian leather goods manufactures. Say good bye to quality and hello to mass produced low quality goods.
He did what I never have had the presence of mind to do. He acknowledged when something was weird, and then suspended judgement despite what appeared to be overwhelming evidence towards a conclusion. While I suspect your conclusion probably was correct, it's cool to see someone have such a good character.
Alan Ball, you have the meta awareness; the awareness of when you are lacking mental presence. It may sound like a joke, but it helps. In the middle of a tennis match, I may notice that on the last shot I had no clue what my feed were doing. I lack elite awareness, but far ahead of a novice.
That's just good analysis, not to come to a conclusion without collecting the facts. I suppose it's good character if he doesn't allow some prejudice ("pre-judge") to bias his conclusion.
@Alan Ball, Good example of Confirmation Bias- You were just waiting to praise him, as you made up your conclusions way before and just looking to justify your conclusions.
So I can't take a nail file through airport security, but every 30-something social media content manager in LA is waltzing through with a pair of prison shanks in their shoes?
It's part of how shoes are made obviously they arent gunna tell you what brand of shoes you can and can't wear to fly. Lots of shoes have metal pieces in them.
i used to with steel plate insert boots all the time. for like 10 years. yes, i had to take them off at security every time, so i wore them as slip-ons (and took them off without prompt) in order not to waste anyone's time. the only bad thing i can think of is they are heavy
If you pay 425 bucks for anything that looks like a shoe from Payless you need to have a psychiatric evaluation. WHAT ARE THOSE LMAO my grandma used to wear shoes that look like this.
A lot of "Italian" soft goods are actually made by what are essentially Chinese factories located in China. Not many westerners know this, but if you research the topic of Chinese fashion factories in Italy, you can see why the word "Italian" doesn´t mean what it used to.
It doesn’t matter what race the people making it are, the country has better labour and enviromental laws and generally higher production and qc standards.
Hey Rose, please consider cutting open Reebok Club C 85 - it's a really underrated shoe especially for it's affordability imo. Keep up the great informational content :)
Get some premium leather goods that aren't over hyped here - bit.ly/44jXLNu
In 100 years in the dictionary this video will be placed as the definition of misinformation. So biased its unreal, someone def paid him for this vid.
This guy is single handedly slaying all the most famous shoe makers
And I'm glad he's doing it too. It sucks spending your hard earned money just to get ripped off.
He is either slaying them or giving them good publicity.
@@marchveris I view it as consumer advice. It is good to know what you're buying.
He is giving a totally unbiased review with NO financial incentives and we are the benefactors of his efforts. Praise is given when earned and due. I trust him more than the manufacturers! Ain't no hiding overpriced rubbish,you will be exposed! All we want is what we pay for?
@@tkangwei Yeah. Brands like Red Wing or Nicks are defintiely gaining good publicity. Other brands like Dr. Martens are being exposed.
This guy took the fur off his cat to see what was underneath.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This doesn't have enough likes
ok that was funny
he's discovering all the ways to skin a cat
Turns out it was just a bougie rat.
You can almost hear them screaming all the way from Italy....This is the kind of transparency the luxury market deserves.
hey i'm italian
I love it!
They’re screaming, Stronzo!
Fanculo! 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for saving us all $425
Porcamadonna che nervi
@@martinfleming1675 deluxe by? writer's name please. im very intersted
These big luxury brands use a lot of loopholes to make something "made in Italy" or "made in France"...
"cheap posing as premium" sums up majority of brands these days.
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those shoes look cheap, Thier just high priced.
@@zerohelix87 supreme is expensive but at retail honestly they match prices you'd find at the nike store. When it's not resell price it's meh
@@zerohelix87 supreme let’s just rebrand another brand n sell it to teens suckas
@@David-vb8tg People really give weird justifications for overpriced and overhyped brands huh
You should do a whole series on these 'premium' minimalist sneakers and then say which one you think is the best value for money
@@StankySack does he deconstruct them in the video? And I think the video has now been set to private
Would love this series!
THIS!
Beckett Simonon is where I'd put my money. Got myself a pair and pretty much lost interest in the other brands.
i'll save him some time. dont buy these hipster bullshit "minimalist" sneakers. there so boring and have no character and i hate when i see someone wearing them. i'd say if you want a clean all white leather sneaker save yourself some money and get some classic adidas stan smiths.
Man, thank you for this video.
I own 2 pairs of those sneakers in black.
One achilles low just like in the video, and the other achilles high-tops.
I bought the first pair in the early 2010s. I really loved the quality of it. I wore them for 3 years almost every single day. The upper part was in good shape but the soles needed resoling. Long story short I did resole them, didn’t like the result, because it made them even heavier than they used to be, and so I stopped wearing them.
In 2018 I saw a good deal on achilles high-tops, so I bought them as well. I did not spot it right from the box, but after a few months of wear, I've noticed that the leather wasn't as rugged and resilient to harsh weather conditions as my first pair used to be. And after a year of day-to-day wear leather even got little cracks.
Today I saw your video. After I finished watching it I took both pairs and compared the thickness of the leather on the upper part. I do not have the tools that you have, but even by touch, feel and look I can tell that the older pair is much thicker, sturdier and has more quality to it and the younger pair looks like the one in your video.
From that I can conclude that the brand decided to cut some corners after getting some recognition, which is very sad because the initial idea of luxury minimal sneaker and the product itself was great.
If you like I can send the older pair to you so you can review it for everyone to see the initial quality of the brand.
Please upvote this people... I need to know the truth
YES! THIS
Omg i hope he makes this happen!!
That would be super cool.
Yes please!
This shoe perfectly fits the target audience: lots of pretending, but little substance.
its not pretending. its having money you can throw away because you have it. Thats what luxury is. No one actually cares about the quality unless the shoe fell apart in a week. I have this shoe and would buy another pair lol
shugyosha _ that one hit close to home ehh ??
@@tatenda1803 yeah as long as people with mindless spending issues like you exist, these pseudo premium brands will keep making money, good on them then, they found the perfect exploitable targets.
I can say similarly about this comment: lots of snobbery, but little knowledge.
@@luna-rk5sj N it isn't luxury is about getting attention and having clout. People who buy common projects associate with people who know common projects otherwise nobody would know
Honestly, so glad you’re doing this. You’re on the side of the consumer, and for that, we thank you.
Never thought I'd hear 'it smells like burned flesh' and 'it's a good sign' in one sentence on UA-cam.
No it makes sense leather is basically skin
That’s usually a good sign cooking a steak lmao.
he said that as if we all know what burning flesh smells like
@@mr.angryman3599 leather is a hide. Skin and hide i believe are "different"(dont quote me on it though).
@@tdombui have you ever cooked any meat without seasoning? Thats what it smells like. Its nothing like what you think. (Having been with a burn victim, burning hair smells worse).
Have you thought of dissecting women’s shoes? I have a bunch of luxury brand shoes I’d donate
Donate it to me too lol
Jk
Lemme get some
Tieks! I want to know if they are worth it.
Yes!! Would you happen to have louboutin's?! That will be really awesome to know!
Pls donate to me
I used to work for Superdry. There was a leather jacket that cost like £2 to manufacture, they sold it for £600. David Beckham was seen wearing it, so they decided to ratchet the price up to £2000. Most of their clothes are manufactured in Turkey very cheap and sold for ridiculous profit. The quality is no better or worse than a much cheaper brand.
All you have to do is have half a brain to notice superdry clothes cheap and low in quality after walking in to one of their stores even if you don't work there.
Good for everyone, the brand is folding and prob won't be around for much longer
@@happyforfun123 Even in the pictures, it's easy to tell it's just a cheap brand lol.
how much was the actual labor, plus import fees and fabric to manufacture the jacket? its a lot more than just 2 euro. still cheap to make tho
People are braindead now adays, just get replica pieces for the exact same quality and considerably cheaper.
“It smells like burning flesh”
Me: *nervous laughter*
Daniel Mercurio 😂😂😂
at least it doesnt smell like burnt bone
@Daniel Mercurio Put the dog in the basket. 😳
"There's a metal shank in here, I have no idea what it's purpose is" - PRISON SHOES
If you could boof some Common Projects into prison, you could fetch $1,000 for them.😂😂😂
Most shoes have a bit of metal in them for arch support.
I bet the shape of the shank is already shaped like a dagger and presharpened 😂
Shanks are put in shoes for support. Attached on the insole board and mainly used in heeled shoes, they do absolutely nothing in a trainer as they’re completely flat. So it’s very strange and a waste of material.
@@eddyk3 not in flat trainers.
this vid saved a few hundred bucks for me, just like that
I agree. This video saved a lot of people from getting ripped off.
Get yourself a pair of stan smiths if you’re looking for a similar style, much cheaper
Kevin Nelson lmao please dont get stan smiths
e usana Stan smiths aren’t bad shoes
how much is this crap selling for again? I never heard of it xD
This is the content that I didn't know I needed. Seeing you rip apart that sneaker was further proof-positive that companies overcharge for items where the craftsmanship is not worth it. Its sad but I'm glad that you've exposed it.
You say this like it’s some shocking revelation. OF COURSE these brands are overcharging you. You think Gucci loafers are fairly priced at over $700?! Why is any of this surprising to people here??
Toaster always wants to see what you're doing.
999thenewman I remember when my son was a toddler. Every time I was working he always put his head between my head and the work I was doing totally blocking my field of vision, just like Toaster The Cat. Lol
haha,Toaster is the one in charge of all this.
Cut in a pair of Koio sneakers. They brag about being extremely high-quality leather made in Italy. Want to find out the truth.
Koio and Thousand Fell are ones I wanna see too
@@toxicorb9793 Koio and Oliver Cabell low 1
I would love to see Koio! I was actually leaning towards a pair of those over common projects.
Yes, I want to see what's in a Koio shoe!
I have three pairs of Koios, I'm gonna be sobbing if he tells me they're made of cheap materials.
"it smells like burning flesh"
Always be wary of a man who knows what burning flesh smells like and who owns a flailing knife that would fill Ramsey Bolton with jealousy... ;)
Hahaha first thought that came to my mind, then I remember him saying that he was a firefighter.
Erfi Anugrah oh no.
i love it
Erfi Anugrah
Or he simply knows what it smells like because it has a distinct smell. Someone must have taught him that. He works with leather a lot, which is basically animal skin.
You pay $425 for a good looking sneakers but it turns out to be dog shit. All we want is durable products at affordable prices, is that really too hard in 21st century?
Up next roasts:
1. Gucci
2. Saint Laurent
3. Chanel
4. ..
4. giuliano galiano's
5. versace's
6. louis vuitton
7. ..
Those brands aren't pretending that their extravagant price tag is purely due to quality though. Everyone knows you buy those brands for the name.
Taylor Merriam exactly.
I have a Gucci leather wallet and the leather is not that great and it didn't keep its shape well. i found CDG leather to be of a much higher quality.
I think it'd be so interesting to see more luxury brands, just to really see who is just inflating prices and who actually is giving the 'luxury' product that they claim they produce (even though obviously a lot of the price is the name brand)
341 dislikes from people who already paid $425 .
It was nearly 342
How dare you 😠 sike
So true- I’m dead inside .........x8
I got them for 350
$270 on sale, shouts out FMF!
everyone: no one can dispute common projects achilles low is the gold standard
rose anvil: hold my beer
I've never heard anyone say that CPs are anywhere near the best quality you can get for sneakers. They're marketed as high-end minimalist shoes, they've never been about fancy craftsmanship or actual luxury.
@@fauzan_hr r/Sneakers certainly think they are the absolute best sneaker in terms of quality and everything must be compared to them
barberoux ever been to r/streetwear?
@@P3storius You have never heard anyone ever say that? I've watched 5 UA-cam videos that literally compare other sneaker brands to cp Achilles lows to see "how they measure up".
@@an-9411 all I know about them is that they were pretty much the laughing stock of the online fashion community when I learnt about the existence of this subreddit
I can’t imagine the profit margin on these shoes
$43.94 to make this shoe...supposedly they dont pay anything for marketing so yea...LOTS
@@charliehascall65 He said around $124 but of course, they get it for less because of bulk orders. So maybe they cost around $80 a pair. Still a rip off because I got some recently for around $250 on sale and the build quality was so bad out the box the sole was damaged I returned them immediately and bought some direct from Italy for less than half the price. They were way more comfortable and I could feel the quality instantly. Svenson is pretty much exactly the same as CP in Europe and they cost like $180. Jaks imo look great in all white too and the cost like $120 or under. Seriously can't understand the hype behind CP it's probably just the brand name. My next pair of white sneakers will be Koio and Greats.
@@zub41r75 I've owned Svenson for two years and they're holding up very nice to this day.
@@zub41r75 You don't get much better price on bulk orders. The difference between 500 to 2000 pairs per year can be significant, but after you reach certain number you don't get that much. For example the difference between lets say 10k to 20k is just few % at most.
If you compare them to Oliver Cabell where they wrote the price breakdown it cost around 110$... so I guess common projects cost the same or slightly more.
Claiming that the shoes you bought are more comfortable that CPs is not really fair since some shoes requires some breaking and you didn't really own them long enough.
Common projects profits roughly the same as other shoe makers. The high price is, because they are selling through retail stores. The wholesale price is usually at 60% RRP so Common projects are selling their shoes for around 240$ to retail stores instead directly to consumers like Koio, Oliver Cabell etc.
Just say it. "This shoe is crap, and it's not worth your money"
But then r/mfa tards will get angy :(
I've owned a pair of these, they're obviously over priced, but they aren't an uncomfortable shoe, and they do hold up fairly well for a pair of sneakers.
@@MrRockrazer I bought it for the design and for its fit anyway. For me I got my money's worth, it's obviously far better value than most streetwear shoes
@@fannykeith You can get the exact same design for 50
@@sneaky_krait7271 No you can't. You can get a close design, you can't get anything that is the exact silhouette.
Could you review KOIO shoes? They are often considered a competitor to Common Projects. I'm very curious if they are a better choice for leather sneakers.
Koio has more full leather. CP has softer leather.
This guy is also incorrect in saying that chrome tan leather is cheap and bad. That's factually incorrect. Any tannery, say Horween, will charge you $0.50 or $1 more for veg tan but that's because veg tan takes longer to process, not because veg tan is higher quality.
This guy also doesn't understand the difference between full grain and top grain....
CPs are more sleek, Koio thicker leather but slightly more stiff, and also costs less.
Others shoe company sweating like shit right now waiting their products to be cut in half & being exposed.
Yeah I wonder if he will make enemies because of this in the long run...
Not the ones who pride themselves in their quality- they’d be stoked to have a chance to show what’s actually under the hood, like Nicks or Whites etc.
This guys the lock picking lawyer of leather footwear
@@madebyreuben3402 Its sad but its true nowadays you will be hated if being honest.People rather idolize the fake & liar people.Sugarcoat everything even though they knew it was wrong.
@@leecheneler2212 that's a pretty damn good analogy
"it smelled like burning flesh" woah there man you got another side hobby we dont know about
Yes...
Cooking?
Scratches at a level 6 and deeper grooves at a level 7..... oh wrong video
i just watched another video of your's, zach put you up to this haha no wonder the content seemed similar! Amazing work though man keep it up wish you the best
Although these items say "Made in Italy", the EU rules are such that products only need to finished in, in this case, Italy, to qualify as "Made in Italy". The majority of Dior ladies shoes are made in rural Romania in a factory Dior has there. They are taken to almost completion, then shipped to France for finishing, and marked "Made in France". When challenged, Dior was upfront about the process, said the technical skills in Romania were 2nd to none for cobbling, and that they were operating within the EU rules. I'm not sure the ladies who lunch would pay $2000 for Dior shoes if they saw "Made in Romania" on them.
Made in Italy only means so much nowadays too since it's filled with chinese immigrants, both legal and illegal. That's also how they were the worst european country affected by the pandemic.
Same thing with "Swiss" luxury watches.
Romanians are actually pretty skilled workers, for sure way better than those lazy italians nowadays, Itali is history at manufacturing quality stuff
@@luobomu9747 No, it's not at all the same as Swiss luxury watches, because they're actually made in Switzerland, and actually are luxury watches with extremely high quality engineering and craftsmanship behind them, usually entirely built by hand and require a lot of skill and precision to make them as good as they are. Don't compare a few pieces of of low quality leather and rubber to incredibly complex and accurate mechanical objects with hundreds of tiny moving parts all built and finished to perfection.
I have been lusting after some Saint Crispin boots, which seem to be some of the best made in the world. The only problem is they know it and charge accordingly.
Frugal Aesthetic somewhere crying right now😂😂
this one got me hahahhaahahha
The Kavalier*
I dont know why people like these overpriced crappy shoes. You can get better white sneakers from any local shoemaker at half that price.
Cause they are posers and brand name whores? You can buy real high quality Italian leather shoes or sneakers for under $200. It is cheaper when on sale also. Thursday, Greats, Goodman Brand, etc are all great companies.
Unfortunate results... I was hoping these would live up to the hype
I'd be interested to see Golden Goose go through this
Yess
People got scammed, again, by publicity, youtubers and influencers, damn! This is so straight forward that I love it! You should keep going with minimal sneakers man, there are tons in the market, Koio, Oliver Cabell, Greats, Crown Northampton (I do feel CN do great shoes tho) and some others. Thanks for this again.
Yes please!!!!
Without having ever held a pair of Common Projects I'd guess that Koio is on par with CP at almost half the price. I suspect Greats would be one of the best value to quality ratio. Greats just don't have the lowest of profiles that is so desired.
But yes, I hope we can see some competitors to CP cut in half as well!
York Tan personally I’m looking forward for him to order some Crown Northampton that will be really interesting as it’s a very old company and not this new hype trash overpriced.
Yess do the olivier Cabell and or Beckett Simonon please!
"I'm about to end this brand's whole career"
For Sale: slightly use Common Projects 😂
Slightly scuffed 😂
I really wanna see you cut open the 'Fear Of God military sneakers' to see how durable they actually are...
Ha! I have those and actually did a review on many channel of them. They are really cool, and I would actually HIGHLY be interested in seeing this as well. (Though it'd still hurt my heart a little)
GrieverTV :. I have 2 pairs in the green nylon and desert beige color way. Absolute beautiful and luxurious shoes, sadly not everyone can style their fits with them. That's why the resale price is way under retail but i still absolutely love them
fear of god is trash. jerry lorenzo just steals other designers work. those shoes are rip offs of raf simons vandal hi's with a rick owens sharktooth sole added on (who he steals other designers from as well)
@@atzellan You, are 100% right. And that's awesome that you have both of those. Great choices. At least we know we have good tastes ha.
I can see this being a more expensive shoe than the other sneakers you dissected, but it´s not worth 400-450$. They must make a killing off of these.
Would be interesting to see other white leather sneakers like Oliver Cabell, Koio, and Beckett Simonon.
Edit: spelling
Agreed also artisan lab and svensonn
And Greats. I have Greats sneakers and Beckett Simonon dress shoes and would recommend both but I’m curious what this guy’s take is once he breaks them down.
@@karbuckle8294 I would like to see Jak and A Days March too
Buttero
@@karbuckle8294 I have the same combo too. Love both brands! My greats are from 2017 and still great. They started different soles in 2019 I think
Lol @9:58 the cat just being a cat - "I'm gonna go ahead and sit on this"
Rose Anvil: Today, we're going to take apart a Common Projects sneaker.
Cat: going to play Sea Captain in the destroyed sneaker
"There's a shank in here, I don't know why." There's also a prisoner number on the outside of the shoe soooo.....
That's the product code with the shoe size but almost
lol lol lol
Myyriss r/woosh
That was a good one. :)
@Wheeler Dealer lmao
I'm guessing 5 or 6 years ago, these would have "only" cost $150. In the intervening period, branded "luxury" good have gone up WAY more than inflation. Example : Burberry raincoats were c. GPB450. Then the new creative director came in, and immediately increased the price to GBP1,100. When asked why, he said that he needed to position his items as luxury, so they had to be in that price bracket. Same product. Just near 200% price increase.
When they first came out i think they were around 200. There were articles about it being sold at a lost to build brand recognition but pretty sure it was just marketing bullshit.
15 years ago they cost the exact same price. They've been around for quite a while.
Makes sense to do that though, sad to say. Rich peoples income has grown faster than inflation, and the reason rich people buy products is to have something very few people have. So if you keep the price the same, you lose those customers.
@Ezra George no it's S O C I A L I S M when people make extra profit not because of their hard work, but because of their ties with the state or work for the state, because the money goes by the river and nothing needs to be done, they spend it as easily without thinking, for example, as Biden's son, who in Ukraine makes huge money on corruption schemes.
@@MrSharp-yg1wb you on crack bruh
First time viewer very impressed THIS is the type of content we need i am tired of seeing expensive shoes with crazy prices that aren’t even worth the price
Really not that suprised about this, the whole sneaker market is allmost complete bs.
Dude if there were some other “sneaker heads” like my self here you’d be getting a shit ton of hate. The sneaker market/industry isn’t all that bull shit, it’s just these I’d say third party brands like the common projects that ‘downgrade’ the well over 2 billion dollar industry.
@@dantebiviano1054 bro just shoes chill out haha😂
@@dantebiviano1054 ALMOST
Metsr Hall ik ik it just triggered me a bit lmao 😂
Dante Biviano sneaker market IS bs and I am a sneakerhead, it’s worse than it is good that’s for sure
might be the most overpriced shoes you reviewed so far !
Give us your opinion on the highest quality leather shoes at various categories and various price points. Hella content.
They look like £9.99 trainers
To shed light on the shank issue: Many factories use pre-molded texon insole boards with the shank glued between the layers of the midsole and insole boards. It’s pretty standard. The shank helps support the arch of the foot a bit bc the outsole has air pockets in the thicker heel area to increase cushion and also to reduce the weight of the shoe.
thx for pointing that out!
Hmm.. any idea why they used a metal shank instead of like a plastic one?
We know what the shank's job is but what is it doing in a sneaker!!!
@@markalexwhiteprocess/equipment being retooled and used ‘generically’. Ie these are a cheap sneaker posing as a premium one apparently
interested in some teardowns of the margiela GATs, which are praised for their quality
I'm not really sure who you've heard from about Margiela GATS being of quality because nothing in regards to leather from Margiela is of high quality. People buy from the brand because of the cultural value and unique little changes the brand does to preexisting designs. Not even any of my Pre-Diesal buyout of the company Margiela leather garments (5zip and boots) are of comparable quality to brands that specialize in this type of thing. I think it's important to understand that with fashion, you aren't buying an item as much as you're buying an idea.
TheGiantBunnysaid should they sell us garbage though?
TheGiantBunnysaid False, You obviously don’t shop / buy that much designer, it’s obvious when you look at Margielas next to other designer shoes in stores such as saks, Neiman Marcus etc the quality and construction is much better and of higher quality than other designer brands. In terms of designer clothing MARGIELA IS MUCH HIGHER QUALITY THAN GUCCI, PRADA ETC. Margielas are couture quality.
@@J3o3 it's the perception of quality that matters not the actual quality
My replica lows are the best pair of shoes I’ve owned. Have golden gooses, YSL, CPs, Gucci, givenchy, Koio, every Nike sneaker you can imagine, even Minnetonka moccasins. Nothing tops them.
I’d be interested in his opinion about Saint Laurent Paris Wyatt Boots.
There's no point in doing this for luxury brands like SLP or Gucci, because their high price tag isn't due to perceived quality, but brand name. It only works for brands like Common Projects who's price tag is justified by their supposedly superior quality.
@@taylormerriam4627 lol why do people who don't know shit always act like they do
@@taylormerriam4627 NAHHH bro the wyatts are legendary for the quality as well as the brand. I feel what my man @tng is saying. thatd be so sick
@@nateratliff3718 Why do you know the quality of women shoes?
The probelm with YSL is mainly the design in the last years. Horrible
Your cat is really a curious creature. Mine doesn’t give a heck about what I’m doing, unless I’m feeding it...
Common projects: we are the best leather high end sneakers
Rose anvil: “destroyed in seconds” such a great vid btw, keep the good job, you should try with another fancy sneaker brands like greats, koio and that kind of stuff
A wise business man once told me: "Most brands are usually the same. You aren't paying for the materials, you're paying for the name."
Also, I think that metal shank was in there to add weight to the shoe. Because apparently, the heavier the shoe, the more expensive it is
Obviously your paying from brand and you get brand smh idiots commenting that your getting gripped off
that wise business man? Albert Einstein
It's so you can smuggle it onto an airplane. Top quality built in.
Of course you're often paying for the brand. I don't think anyone paying $425 for sneakers will think otherwise. But some people like to pay for the brand. They are not just buying a shoe, they buy the whole image that goes along with that. If that's what makes someone happy, I don't see the problem.
Some commenters here don't seem to understand that paying for a brand used to be justified--that is, a brand used to mean good quality. Nowadays brands are either resting on their laurels or they're just creating "recognition" from marketing.
when cp first launched, a pair of achilles were significantly cheaper than they are now by a couple hundred bucks iirc, at that price the quality makes a bit more sense. over time the tag's gone up without the product getting any more luxe
Yeah I got mine for about £150 in the sales a few years ago and for that they're fine. Probably similar quality to something like New Balance Made in UK/US full grain leather or SLP white minimalist trainers. They've become ridiculously expensive for what they are cos of hipster hype,
Common Projects is one of the brands I've always liked but never bought because of the price. New Republic makes a very similar version for $80. It's been compared plenty of times to Common Projects, would love to see a comparison video. So many have been done on New Republic's chelsea boot vs Common Project's boot but never seen it cut in half and dissected this way. Love the video.
they look like shoes you’d get from like target or old navy tbh. never understood the hype
The hype came from the simple, versatile look, and youtubers telling everyone that they are very high quality.
Minimalism when they were first introduced. There weren't many sneakers like them on the market 10 years ago.
Istilluse Zune lol yes there were.
@@NPFfumbi I am kinda glad maximalism is back with the dad shoes from Balenciaga and the rest. I would not wear them, but it sure makes a change from the boring iPhone-ish style of the past decade.
Yeh they look just like the cheap shoes you could get a H&M and primark
I like your new video format where you dissect and discuss component by component i.e. leather quality, followed by stitching and then insoles. It feels more organised and easier to take in info using this new format as opposed to your older videos where you dissect everything and discuss everything at once.
Thanks! I’m glad you like it!
I’ll be curious about the Thursday Boots if you ever do them. They claim to be high quality but much cheaper as they are direct to the consumer.
Adrian Villanueva there has been a couple of cobbler-type youtubers that have done similar videos on Thursday boots. They’re definitely worth the price you pay for them but not exactly matching the quality of the highest of the high end boots, which is kind of expected and not a deal breaker for most.
@@sk8rrockstar12 I'd say it's a deal breaker for boot enthusiasts as they are willing to spend 400+ and wear their boots regularly. If you really only see yourself wearing boots every once in a while, thursday is probably a good purchase.
i pulled the trigger on thursdays and am happy with the results for the most part. by no means a perfect boot. after a few pairs, leather quality on one pair was a little disapointing but not a deal breaker, another had stitching issues etc. but for the price i wouldnt complain. half the price of common projects but the same if not better quality in my opinion.
Their leather very good like 300$+ shoes according to alot of people - you get what u pay for.
“There’s a metal shank in the sole” Oh these shoes from the projects alright 😂😂
I’d like him to cut in half a playdium boot. Yes, we all want to know the higher end ones but especially if he’s spending his own money he needs time to recover wallet wise lol plus I am interested.
That is incredible, who would have thought the "holy grail" was just a bunch of cheap chrome tanned leather and compressed cardboard.
I'm struggling to figure out who are the people considering these "the highest quality shoes" or "the holy grail shoes."
@@xenonram basically r/mensfashion. There are a few communities that exist that advise others about mens clothing and stuff and this shoe was considered by not only them and other youtubers as the best all white shoe.
ryan alam at 400$, you really can’t expect much. I’d say for its price it’s not exactly worth it, but it’s still comfortable to wear so
@@xenonram shape and sht is nice, but not 450 bucks nice. I rather buy MMR. But then again, idk how the MMR gonna fare here.
Rather have stan smith's
I’m so glad I never bought these shoes, the amount of times I was going to buy them I’m so glad I didn’t overrated
I have a couple pairs and I don’t regret it. I own several pairs of “alternatives” and while you can get close, these are still the best minimal sneaker I can find.
if u like shoes that looks like cp, i think u should try svensson classic low dude, much more cheaper too....
AK Milli They are certainly not “trash” quality. I know this because you couldn’t name a better quality sneaker of this sort. Perhaps you means they aren’t worth the full retail price.
Jerry Jimenez I got a few of mine half price by getting 2nd hand. I noticed the later batches being stiffer on the upper, but I’m not sure if they changed production since I have 5-6 pairs from 2015 time.
I know CP is overpriced... but this is misleading. Chrome tanned leather is softer, easier to colour, better for the environment, more comfortable out of the box; and overall a better leather for most people. "this leather (Chrome Tanned) isn't good but Iron Ranger, aka the bestselling toughest boot of all time uses it" come on man.
Any White sneaker is chrome tanned not vegetable leather, no synthetic colour (white, charcoal, black, navy) is made from vegetable leather.
I love the minimalist sneaker look CP emulates, however the best value by a mile is "New Republic" For a minimalist sneaker its better quality than Cole Haan, Club Monaco, Thursday Boot's & Ecco.
What do you think Common Projects costs to Produce?
I believe Hender Scheme does exactly what you're talking about where they take popular shoe silhouettes and recreate them with higher-quality materials. You should do one of their shoes!
My guess is that the shank is there just to add weight to make them feel more "expensive" when you pick them up
I think you're spot on.
It adds support. A shank is literally in every well made shoe. I don't know wtf he's talking about wondering why its there. It's a sign of quality.
HandandSew yeah, but it’s a sneaker. chuck a thicker insert in and you’ve got just as much support. it’s just a way to justify the price and make you feel like these are insanely comfortable although they seem thin. a pair of Dr. Scholl inserts wouldn’t be way thicker though.
salad. Not really. A shank is so that when you foot is bending the sneaker, it directs the arch strike to the heel. This is why it’s a stiff metal or wood piece and not “thicker insole” in regular shoes. Maybe go watch Bedo on UA-cam or actually make some shoes and you might understand it better. That’s one thing I wish this guy would do, he comes in with no knowledge and starts criticizing. After you actually make a pair or two of shoes or boots from scratch you understand why things are the way they are.
@@Stevieboy7 A shank is required for shoes with a heel block to prevent the sole from collapsing when you step. So high quality boots, dress shoes have shanks. A sneaker like this doesn't have a heel block, so a shank seems unnecessary.
i would be interested in a tear down of classic Dress shoes like allen edmonds, Ludwig reiter, churchs or trickers
let's go for church's
Personally think those kind of brands wouldn't care cut corners on the leather. Their market is very different from the one these are catering to.
@@asianbboy911 Yeah, also the make no secret of how their shoes are made. It would be rather uninteresting. Maybe if you cut up some vintage ones and compare them. But that would be just tooo sad.
TRICKERS
Church’s are Prada nowadays, and use awful processed finished leathers
In my opinion Common Projects despite the fact they don't offer the best quality are by far still the best looking "minimalist" white shoe, a cleaner design than anything on the market, the name lends a bit of mystique in that they're a little more of a niche solely in the shoe world and the cool little serial number thing looks great as well. For the style, they're among the most comfortable options outside of the Cabells for the extra width.
Would love if they made a model that took into consideration your suggestions, but at the end of the day this is approaching money as no object at this price and if you want the best looking shoe in this style this is it.
Wow, great video man, now we have to wait to see those sneakerheads getting mad with no reason for a cheap shoe marketed as premium
HALD-MATALONGOS well the reason will be, they bought them 😂😂😂😂
Those ain't traditional sneakerhead kicks, but more of a "I'm a luxury person" type of shoe wore by the Instagram wannabe influencers.. but true, I'd get hella angry to be scammed like that 😂
I kinda get it, though. They derive clout from the perception of high quality material shit that costs a fortune. Take out the first half of that and you get a tool who spends close to $500 USD on a name.
These aren't sneakerhead shoes. They're more in line with tech bros who want to show off money without being loud about it.
Not gonna lie. It was just satisfying watching a Common Projects shoe get torn apart and exposing that they're overpriced.
Thank you for this one. I've always seen these shoes in boutiques in Los Angeles and they can never give me a reason as to why they cost so much. "It's premium Italian leather" and that's all I'll be told.
Seems like it's fair to assume "premium Italian leather" without further explanation is the "genuine leather" of luxury fashion goods :P
Yeah I remember doing a thorough search on internet to find the leather grade and all I found was Italian Nappa Leather. I learned about Full-grain, Top-grain from Rose Anvil channel so I always wonder what grade is Italian Nappa then.
@@lth9520 Yeah as we have seen in the video.
Dang $425 for that?! That's pretty sad.
Well it does say "Common" on the brand name.
It should say common dogshit
When companies put the plastic finish on top, is there any point in conditioning the leather?
Maybe Palladium sneakers or boots be interesting.
Its like chuck taylor with "commando" sole...why bother?
another pair of expensive shoes that you could do is golden goose, there are many styles but if you did a more basic style like all star or ball star that would be insteresting to see if the quality matches the price
gaymer I have faith that they live up to the hype..I hope they’re not a bust. Seems like everything is not what it is haha
As a shoe recommendation: I think it would be interesting to see the leather Adidas Ultraboost. The idea of a leather running shoe is pretty interesting to me, but they cost about $200, so they're out of my price range (At the moment of writing this comment they're on sale for $140 on Adidas' website though, which is more reasonable).
yeah, I'd love to see the Ultraboost S&Ls cut open for sure.
leather is too heavy and generally not suitable for a running shoe. If you want them for running, look up what brands professionals use for running. Spoiler: it wouldn't be any of the big sneaker brands
yeah, I agree. Brooks and Hoka make very good running shoes. It's just interesting to me that Adidas took their flagship running shoe and decided to make a leather version.
Ultraboosts cost $180 at retail though now you can get them on sale for under $100. Don't buy them for the leather buy them for the comfort. And the leather on them looks really cheep.
You can always find them on sale. Just google your model and color. Other reputable sites sell ultraboost cheaper than adidas. And adidas.com just had 30% off sitewide couple a days ago and b4 that maybe like 6 weeks ago (get on the email list and you'll catch it next time). Ultraboost is THE most comfortable creation for walking and running. 9 outta 10 times i pick them over my designer leather kicks. Highly recommend ultraboost'19 and/or '20 to everyone who hasn't tried them yet.
These videos actually do make a difference. I thought it was only that customers knew what they were buying. No, some of these companies, for instance saint Laurent actually changed to doing stacked heals after their expensive +1k dollar boot was taken apart and shown to have a cheap hollow plastic heal. To be honest I said I’d never buy a pair of expensive shoes. But now the next pair of shoes I buy will be, and I’ll be able to have them repaired and wear them until I die.
This was crazy informative, these shoes are widely considered to be some of THE highest quality around lol. I think the aspect that makes people think this way is that they almost dont crease at all, would that be a correct assumption? better leather doesnt crease?
Simba Pl no normal leather creases on the flexpoint
Some high quality leathers roll over instead of folding however within a shoe you cannot distinguish the quqlity without cutting it and seeing for yourself
He mentioned in another video that an expensive leather like shell cordovan will roll rather than crease
It used to be high in quality. It has gone downhill.
Is there anything that has gone up in quality? I am sure there is something somewhere.
What about Maison Margiela, Filling Pieces and other brands pretending to be premium? Could you please reviev these too? Thumb up pls, so he can see.
maison margiela is actually good quality
Filling Pieces is cheap shit
Maison Margiela is worth every penny
i just got a pair of geobaskets and i really wanna know whats inside these babies.
wackwoods you bought em for 510?
My 2 requests to cut in half:
Saint Laurent Wyatt boots
Veja Sneakers
YoI'mJoe I don’t think you want to watch him do the Wyatt lol. While I love my pair, he would tear them apart.
sent a pair to him
im sure he more than happy to tear them
Wyatt's are one of my best boots ever, Had them for 3 years+ and don't have a single crease on them. Insane Quality.
I’ve got 2 pairs of wyatt boots and love them, would be very interested to see the build quality
Several of these "made in Italy" companies which have been owned by the same families in Italy for generations have been bought up by the Chinese. They own a huge chunk of the market, garment districts and "premium" Italian leather goods manufactures. Say good bye to quality and hello to mass produced low quality goods.
Like in many markets.. Company greed.
Maybe do some Rick Owens mainline shoes in the future, and on the higher end stuff, some Carol Christian Poell.
would love to see a rick dunk dissected!
@@VinhNguyen-bh3op hell no, geobasket instead not mf dunks!!
Would love a price drop on hoof dunks doe 😳😳
@@frankrichardsomething GEOOOBASKEEEEET
He did what I never have had the presence of mind to do. He acknowledged when something was weird, and then suspended judgement despite what appeared to be overwhelming evidence towards a conclusion. While I suspect your conclusion probably was correct, it's cool to see someone have such a good character.
When you have to reach the word limit on a college essay
Alan Ball, you have the meta awareness; the awareness of when you are lacking mental presence. It may sound like a joke, but it helps. In the middle of a tennis match, I may notice that on the last shot I had no clue what my feed were doing. I lack elite awareness, but far ahead of a novice.
That's just good analysis, not to come to a conclusion without collecting the facts. I suppose it's good character if he doesn't allow some prejudice ("pre-judge") to bias his conclusion.
There is no evidence. He decides that chrome tanned leather makes bad leather, he is wrong, and that's all he finds.
@Alan Ball, Good example of Confirmation Bias- You were just waiting to praise him, as you made up your conclusions way before and just looking to justify your conclusions.
So I can't take a nail file through airport security, but every 30-something social media content manager in LA is waltzing through with a pair of prison shanks in their shoes?
Reason they make you take off your shoes at security
@@EzaVinylAddict Yeah, but then they let you put them back on and get on the plane.
It's part of how shoes are made obviously they arent gunna tell you what brand of shoes you can and can't wear to fly. Lots of shoes have metal pieces in them.
i used to with steel plate insert boots all the time. for like 10 years. yes, i had to take them off at security every time, so i wore them as slip-ons (and took them off without prompt) in order not to waste anyone's time.
the only bad thing i can think of is they are heavy
Lol I’ve never heard of this brand. But this seems to be more of a luxury brand than a “sneaker head” brand
This is the Silicon Valley tech exec shoe. It says "I have money" without being ostentatious.
Most definitely
@@JHillNC see if I noticed somebody wearing a shoe that looks like this I'd think "oh hey it's a Payless or Walmart brand shoe".
I like how soft he's dealing with his cat, need to learn his way of zen and love, ohmmmmm.
Would love to see golden goose sneakers cut in half, they have a similar price-point and it would be interesting to see how they hold up against these
If you pay 425 bucks for anything that looks like a shoe from Payless you need to have a psychiatric evaluation. WHAT ARE THOSE LMAO my grandma used to wear shoes that look like this.
$400 just for those little gold numbers lmao.
Now sell them with a description: "just opened for a photo"
"Smells like burning flesh" - ah yes I can totally relate to that
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wat
I work in the o.r. so yes. Relatable.
A lot of "Italian" soft goods are actually made by what are essentially Chinese factories located in China. Not many westerners know this, but if you research the topic of Chinese fashion factories in Italy, you can see why the word "Italian" doesn´t mean what it used to.
It doesn’t matter what race the people making it are, the country has better labour and enviromental laws and generally higher production and qc standards.
He's like a shoe version of Jerry Rigs Everything. And I luv that cat
He's friends with JerryRig
He gave him the idea for the channel.
*watches man rip apart sneakers for ten minutes*
me: yes. i enjoy this.
LIKE SO YOU CAN SEE HIM DO ONE ON A VISVIM SHOESSSS!!!!
same thought. If he did the moccs (with the sneaker sole? I can't recall the name), that'd be really interesting.
HENDER SCHEME TOO
visvim material sourcing is really supposed to be what drives their prices up... if he proves that wrong i'd be distressed
I am okay with my $35 Hush Puppies, bought during a sale. Good Fit, Good Comfort, Good all year round experience.
No complains!!
Some golden goose shoes would be cool
Hey Rose, please consider cutting open Reebok Club C 85 - it's a really underrated shoe especially for it's affordability imo. Keep up the great informational content :)
I second this. Very interesting soft leather on it.
@@istillusezune82 and i'm thirding it, lol. reebok has some really soft leathers