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I love single ended triode amps,, for sure, but they are not for everybody.. There are some good alternatives out there,, though. Although they are push-pull and not SET, Primaluna makes some awesome tube amps, which because of their higher overall power, are possibly a better fit for those with somewhat less efficient speakers. They still have tons of tubey goodness!
Quicksilvers are great value and substantially higher-powered (mostly push-pull) designs. A lot of tube magic that play with a greater range of speakers. The higher powered Quicksilvers would likely sound great with the acoustic suspension designs that are making a comeback.
Awesome review as always, Andrew. As to your question, could you review a Mcintosh tube amp? I've always been enamored by their lush sonic signature and would love to hear your unbiased opinion. Oh, and those blue watt meters - hypnotic! Thanks for reading. And keep those reviews coming!
It said that good things come to those who wait. So true. I received my Decware Zen Amp this week after waiting 1 year and 9 months after watching this review. This amp is my silver bullet, my search is over. Many thanks Andrew and Kristi.
While I am avid and loyal channel subscriber, I don’t comment much..... but today I have to let you guys know. I love the passion pouring out of this review. It left me excited and just reaffirms what a great channel can be. Perfect. Love from the uk 🇬🇧
I’ve had my 341.5 amp from Decware for about 5 months and can’t say enough good things about it. Yes, I upgraded the caps and and a few other items pushing the price above $2K. Worth every nickel. Excellent with high efficiency speakers.
I have basically the same amp without meters and wood wrap - SE84UFO for $995 - for my Heresy IVs. It's everything Andrew claims it is! Customer service at Decware is Steve the man. Plenty of db from this unit. You'll need patience after you order, I had to wait almost 6 months for build time but so worth the wait.
Our Zen SE84UFO2.1 recently arrived after quite a long wait. Hooked it up to our Klipsch Chorus II speakers ( 101db, 1 watt, 1 meter) and what an incredible experience! This video here pretty much sums it up alright. Wish I would have purchased before you , Steve G and Thomas got on it...... 😂 Take care Andrew, and Kristi 👌
Can I ask ? I have been looking for a good single ended amp, as much to 'tube role' potencial valves for my balanced Prima Luna integrated amp as for it's own joy(Listening). It is important to me I can use KT88 or EL34 valve variants. I could not see from the decware sight what valve types their amps take. Could you spell it out to someone relatively new to tube rolling? Also if you change the installed 'set' can you run KT88 or EL34's on a single ended amp typically? even if unfortunately I had to look elsewhere at another make? Thanks in advance for any advice I receive.
Have an older se84 and it drives my old Energy 22’s at 87db efficiency no problem, my wife keeps telling me to turn it down...so I for one wouldn’t hesitate to say it will power less efficient speakers just fine. Thanks for the great video...
To Kristi: it's impossible to argue with taste but why I love the look of tubes is that the glass envelope and the glowing parts inside offer a visual representation of what tubes do so well: transparency and warmth. It just makes me know that it's going to sound good.
I had this amp, then bought the 25 watt Torii MKIV because moved into a house with a MUCH larger living room. With high efficient speakers, like Klipsch Heresy or Zu anything (I've owned both) and in a small to medium sized room, there is no better amp for the money in the world, not even close. If you need a little more power, the 6 watt Decware is also super great. Andrew's review is humble and honest. SETs + high efficient speakers, like turntables, are probably the best way to reach high-fi nirvana.
I bought my first Zen amp for $500 in 1998. A couple of years later bought the Zen Select which was better. Then bought the Zen Monoblocks in 2002 and finally the Taboo Amp. Thank you Decware, what a sound!!
Thanks so much, Andrew. You and Kristi are so thoughtful, articulate and well produced. Why else would a guy listening to his wife for five minutes still have me glued to the screen? You two are that insightful, so "right on" to you. One question for you: Given that you usually have high-efficency speakers on the floor, how come this isn't the amp you use all the time?
Hey Andew and Kristi. Just happened on your review and it coincides nicely with the delivery of my Zen Triode UFO2. You helped me figure out the right speaker combo and I purchased a pair of Klipsch Heresey IV's. Thanks again!
Okay, thanks for the help with the previous question. I'm eager to build out those surround speakers. I expect those to work and satisfy. The Forte's arrived, and I think they'll be great, although I'm gonna also try the Cornwalls and take advantage of that Crutchfield 60-day return policy. because I'm told the front facing port may work better in my smaller space 14x14x8, in that they can be closer to the wall. (Though I don't have the Forte's too far out -- maybe a foot -- and they sound great!) The move to the Forte's however has me wondering if I should go also upgrade the receiver / or add better amplification? Particularly for listening to music. I don't fully understand the world of hi-fi yet, but when listening to the Forte's at lower levels, I kind of wanted more presence ... maybe that means I just wanted more volume ... more loudness ... I don't know, but I wanted "more." I am currently running the Denon AVR-X4700H. Again, using this system for theater will be important to my family, but I am really enjoying discovering music again and going back to my childhood of my Dad's Harmon Karden and Klipsch KG4 speakers. I am happy to just continue down the road with this Denon, until I get the other parts of the system built, but was wondering if adding external power or a different direction altogether would be better? Thanks!!!
Thanks again for the support. Regarding more "presence" for your Forte or possibly Cornwalls, running a separate stereo amplifier to them with your Denon serving as a preamp for volume and source selection will likely pay off. You don't have to go crazy, but a good 100+ per channel stereo amp like this bit.ly/3FnlrWs will pair well with those speakers and be ALL the amp they will or would ever need. It's what I use on our Cornwalls and I've very happy!
I’ve been waiting for this review and I wasn’t disappointed. I have mine paired with DIY backloaded corner horns built for me by a friend, It’s clarity is only limited by source. I won’t be buying another amp!
@@KristiWright Absolutely.... For me, Steve's amps are almost like artwork.. simple yet elegant. Very low tech at that... BUT, I do get your point as my wife forces me to hide my SET amp inside an armoire as she does not like the exposed tubes ! It can be dangerous too if you have kids or pets.. Back before y'all were born, tube amps were covered too I remember my Dad's Fisher amp from the 60's was fully covered like today's solid state amp.. but with most tube amps, especially Class A, you can fry an egg on it !
Glad this company is getting the critical recognition it deserves and their full order book shows they are doing well. American designed and made, no nonsense designs, and they're perfectly competitive with the stuff coming out of China.
OUTSTANDING REVIEW ANDREW! One of your all-time best! I'm very happy that Steve is finally getting his due ... Decware is by far one of the best and true sonic bargains in all of home audio. I've owned my SE84UFO for about a year and a half and paired with another sonic bargain, my Zu Omen MKII DW's (97 db 1w/meter efficiency) creates "you are there" audio like no other I've had in my home over a 60 year journey with audio equipment. I use a Conrad Johnson PV5 Preamp that I purchased new back in 1985. 3D sound? You bet and with so much micro detail, dynamism, natural timbre. Steve makes his own transformers and will suggest that's a big part of why his units have that control you mention.. As Sean Casey of Zu talks about in his UA-cam interview with John Atkinson, crossovers, heat and other mechanical issues eat up most of that wattage so that maybe a watt or two actually powers your average sensitivity speakers. Sean says high sensitivity speakers are more dynamic as well and ... If you eliminate the issues (as Sean has), it makes a Decware amp very viable for home audio with wonderful results as it has in my case. From where I'm sitting, The Decware/Zu combination cannot be beat for price to performance. Herb Reichert loves the Decwares with Klipsch RP600's, Zu's and other more sensitive speakers. Great job Andrew... I'm glad to hear how well the Decware has worked with all your speaker systems and ... Just wait until you get into some serious tube rolling!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Sorry if I'm over the top on this stuff. I'm just glad Steve's getting the recognition he deserves. He's a good and humble guy about all of what he produces. As well, keep doing what you're doing. The world needs men like you to bring some truth to an industry that's too often been long on hyperbole and a little short on delivery. I believe the high speaker sensitivity/low power approach of actually pre- WWII is the way of the future (Back To The Future?)that should never have been abandoned in the 1960's with the acoustic suspension speaker. Check out Steve's open baffle speaker offerings if you have a chance.... thanks again... Vic aka Don Vito.
@@tplank216 You won't be disappointed. These components need "play-in" time so as the weeks go on you'll start to hear more and more detail, nuance and natural timbres.
One of the system types I use is low-powered SE amps with full-range single driver speakers. This puts the smallest possible number of components between the source and your ears. And it shows in the transparency and effortless realism of the sound.
Great review! I think it's safe to say we've ALL been waiting for this one. I aim to get this amp in the future so it was really awesome having all my hopes and concerns validated/addressed, I'll definitely be watching this one more than once. I'd love to see your take on the Willsenton R8. Thank you for the wonderful channel, I'm so glad I subscribed
Man, I have been out of the game for far too long. Didn't know anyone was making old school tube amps. I love the old school looks of these things. Takes me back to the 70's when my dad used to make me run down to the corner store to test tubes. Very cool.
Awesome review. I can't wait to hear it with ZU Dirty Weekends. This combo should blow my wig off if I am not careful.I am glad I ordered the same amp in December in walnut. with a Decware ZP3 phono stage. The anticipation is literally killing me.
Not really beginners audio component. This is bought for what it is by serious connoisseurs of the hobby, remote be damned. I love it. Great review as usual guys
Ordered one of these over a year ago. Still have a long way to go on the waitlist. Right now, the setup I have while waiting: - Peachtree Audio nova300 - Fluance RT85N (with a Nagaoka MP-110 Cartridge) - Klipsch RP-8000F II (listed with 98 dB sensitivity) - iFi Hi-Res bluetooth receiver This may be a dumb question, but will I need a pre-amp? Any suggestions on which for this setup? On a side note, I remember looking at the Zen amp 20 years ago when I was in college. At that time, I think you could order it as a kit and assemble it yourself. The fact that it is still being sold (with a 2 year waitlist) means it must be good.
Wow! I have never understood, or really cared to find out more, about the efficiency/sensitivity ratings of speakers, but you explained it so beautifully. I totally get it now. Thank you! Love your videos!
I bought a Zen back in Sept. to power my 95db rated open baffle speakers. This combination amazes me every day. I'm no longer looking for something better! I like Steve Deckert's quote on High wattage amps. " If the first watt sucks, why would you want more"
@@TheRacingSlick I built the speakers from Teakwood panels I got from Lowe’s. They are based on the design from Caintuck Audio. Mine are barrel shaped 22x24 x1in. I found the drivers on eBay. They are vintage Zenith alnico 12 in. taken from a 1963 Zenith console. Back then all of the amps. Where low watt tube types. Although these drivers sound great, I’m going to build another pair in the fall using the Lii F15 drivers. I’m sure the technology has improved greatly in 60 years. If you haven’t heard any before, you can make a pair of open Baffle speakers very easy without spending a lot of money. You won’t believe the difference in the holographic image or soundstage. I have a pair of Design Acoustic floor standing models that I paid $1000. For in 1986. I will probably never listen to them again. There’s no comparison in the sound.
Thanks for the great explanations! As someone kinda jumping into the audiophile frey with only enough knowledge to be dangerous, it's really nice to have terms explained in a way that doesn't assume too much of an understanding already. In short, thanks for not assuming we all already know the basics.
Hi, I'm rocking yamaha's too. Yamaha ns333 powered by yamaha as500 with a yst350 sub. I'm wondering if I buy a kilpsch r51m, would it be an upgrade over my ns333? I usually stream through ifi zen blue. Thank you 😁
Back to this thread after two years. It took me eighteen months to get this amp. This gave me time to DIY my speakers with Lii F15 drivers. It is up to my expectations which were right over the top. If you do the same, make sure you have not only the speakers but also a high end source with clean power, then it is phenomenal. For those who want a bit more power, Decware just built a new amp which should be even better, a 300B made expecially for the new Western Electric 300B tube.....end game for ever !
I bought a SV84b back in the 90s and still love it. Have it hooked up to my La Scala's... and occasionally a pair Lowthers. Amazing, but am thinking that it's time to upgrade to this version. THANKS STEVE!!!
Do Decware ship these to Australia? I can't seem to find any info on their website that they ship internationally. I'd love to pair one of these with Klipsch Cornwall IV's.
@@splaff79 👍 glad to hear you received it. When did you receive? Only asking because I ordered a zen amp in May and figure early next year based on what people are saying now. I’m in no hurry so not a big deal.
You know DecWare has other Higher Power Amps that I never see reviewed anywhere. I know they cost much more, but do they sound like they are as good? - m.
Yes, yes ... YES. I have the UFO2 (not 25th anniversary) and my speakers are simple, vintage Large Advents - two pair stacked. I’m in a small room, so YMMV. And I’ve tube rolled (try a NOS Sylvania type 80 rectifier with adapter!) and wow, wow, WOW! I’m using a Rogers Canada 6JD8 and 7189 power tubes. It is a stunning rig. I’ve auditioned it with Triangle Gaias and it’s a good match, but I’m next going to try Wharfedale Lintons.
My present system! I've had this pairing for about a year and a half and it only keeps getting better and better ... especially with rolling different tubes. Works beautifully... true to life sound. Very revealing to good sound sources. Tough to beat at any price but I say save yourself time and money... buy the Zu DW's with clarity cap upgrade and SE84UFO and spend the rest of your time and money on listening to the music you really enjoy.
Thank you for this rapport. I have my own special build speaker cabinets with Fostex FE206En and I use now with a borrowed amp with EL84 with vintage OPT of 5k/8 ohm. The amp with these speakers creates a similar "magi" what this video talks about... it’s real magic and I cannot stop listening to it. So the EL84 has real true potential. My first project was this speaker and I got the results what is overall expectations... I'm very happy about this... and I enjoy every day how the music should be music. My second project will begin now to make a 300B SE amp and later on another own EL84 SE amp. (The EL84 amp just for fun) I'm sure the 300B setup will produce higher sonic magi and more "control" with a wider and deeper 3D field.
Great review! I've got a Zen on order (from like Dec 2020) It does take some time to get one, but then again it's a piece of art and hand-made, so I was expecting that wait to be honest. And actually I have the perfect pair of speakers already that'll pair beautifully this this amp: I have Caintuck Audio open baffles with the Lii F-12 drivers (no cross-over at all) essentially 100db sensitivity. Already I'm using them with a 6.3 Watt tube amp (and frankly I think that tubes look beautiful with their romantic, mysterious glow) and they sound awesome and I dare not turn up the volume too loud. With a review like this I KNOW that the Zen Triode is going to rock my musical world. :)
Excellent review, thank-you Andrew. I committed to a pair of 3W triode monoblocks in the late 90s and haven't looked back. They drove my 82db/w transmission line speakers surprisingly well but I weakened about 10 years ago and bought a pair of Lowther Acousta 115s (96db+ depending on drive unit choice). Apparently Jimi Hendrix listened to his Handel records through a pair, a decision I cannot fault. The low power/high efficiency route gets *me* closer to the music, I become absorbed in the performance and forget the electronics. As ever (particularly with HiFi), your mileage may vary.
Good follow up video would be a review on a higher powered Decware like the Zen Triode Integrated or TORII Jr. for people with lower sensitivity speakers. I’m sure Steve would loan you one 👍
I’ve had one for almost four years, paired with Omega super high output alnico monitors and love it. I listen mid-field in a smallish room. I never feel like I need more power. I do sometimes wonder about the 25th anniversary model….wonder if it would be worth the money to upgrade.
I'm glad you finally reviewed the Decware! I have all of his DIY plans. I have modded drivers to build his Zen Open Baffle speaker once we move and settle in. I can't imagine a better combo for acoustic singer/songwriters than the ZOB and a Decware amp.
For anyone interested in speakers for the little Zen amps don't disregard old models of single driver bookshelf speakers from the late 60's and early 70's. They were actually common and all would have the stunning coherence full-range drivers are known for. Even Radio Shack had full-range driver bookshelf speakers of that era featuring original single Fostex high efficiency drivers. The combo of crossover-less speakers with small SET amps is the end game for acoustic jazz, singer songwriter music.
finally a proper decware tube amp review...I am studying the headphone amp option for a while, and honestly the review of the loudspeaker amp version is enough to convince me.
I messaged Paradigm for you as well a while back. They’re being very impolite for Canadians. When I get my license back (medical issues) I may just take a 30 minute drive and knock on their door about it.
It's now 4 years, if you know an amp tech Decware will sell you the Zen Triode pcb and a list of components, it adds up to about $450 plus PCB price at the moment - this includes Edcor transformers (one power, two output), and parts from Mouser, Digikey, and Partsexpress. Edcor makes transformers to order, so expect 2 weeks for delivery in the US. It really is something to smell a freshly painted brand new transformer. It will take you a couple hours to order the parts because you need to find equivalent components as the parts list supplied by Decware with manufacturer ID's is very outdated. I'm building two of these amps for a friend. So $450 plus maybe 5-10 hours of amp tech pay, I'd estimate about $1,000-1,500 per amp depending on who you hire. Don't try building one yourself, the power transformer outputs 600 volts. If you do have someone build one for you, the filter caps and other components are essentially exposed - so have your tech cover them well with cloth covers for the leads. You don't want anyone or a pet getting zapped while in operation.
I just bought the Willsenton R8 because I need a fine amp for not a lot of money. Having said that the Decware is an artisan product inside and out that I would LOVE to have in my sight every day.
Given your exposure to a lot of speakers, getting your take on the Decware and Omega speakers would be invaluable. I have the Decware DM945 and am quite impressed with their sound, especially at about a grand.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Aah thanks for the response! That's unfortunate. Perhaps, you can get a pair of Decware speakers to review then. I believe that Steve must apply that same philosophy of simplicity yet great musicality that he uses for tube amps to speakers.
Thanks for the video, Andrew. Do you think the listener is going to benefit from bridging 2 amps and having greater headroom, or is it not worth the extra expenditure?
Loved this review. Love that analog tube amps, especially class a, reveal the effort musicians put into their performances. I like Bottlehead. Makes high quality SETs available for budgetminded.
I understand everything you are saying about this beauty, the Decware UFO integrated amplifier because I am using two 7watt per channel Sony solid state receiver. I am using a 98, 100 and 103 dB speakers and they play loud, warm and detailed. I know how a tube amplifier sounds like having owned a Zenith SET from a Cordoba console and a Heathkit that has its On/Off switch via its only 'tone' control. I know exactly what you are describing Mr. Robinson and when I use my Coral 12TX with my Sony, it bring me ¾ to tube sound warmth and some detail to go with it. There's no Decware dealer where I live but your review is spot-on. Greetings from the Philippines 🇵🇭👍👌.
I enjoy Kristi's comment. I wish she were on camera when she's talking. You didn't mention one non sonic issue with Decware amps, it will take them more than half a year to build and send it to you! They don't charge 90% of the cost until it is almost ready, but that's a long time to wait :(
why is everything you review is best you ever heard. its hard to believe what you say if everything is best your ever heard an your favorite. i noticed you say its your favorite on every review i heard from you.
Andrew I can only imagine your voice being just that extra measure of silky smooth in person when compared to the convoluted chain of devices, transcoding and reproduction required to hear you as well as I am capable currently. Also, your review would lead me to believe the Decware as a desktop amp, or a similarly powered headphone amp would be spectacular.
I believe the build list is about 9 months now so place your order now. A deposit is needed to place the order and full payment is due when ready to ship. The packing is very impressive. I ordered mine in July of 2020 and received it in January. There have been a number of UA-cam and magazine reviews in the past 18 months so the waitlist has grown.
I put my order in for one of these back in Feb. Can't wait to get it!! I own Zu Audio DW's What caps did you get with your amp and did you get the MOD for it? Thanks , great review Like to see PrimaLuna EVO 300 Tube amp :)
Mine is stock with respect to caps. I only customized the finish and volume control as I wanted this unit to be as close to stock as possible. Obviously you can customize it quite a bit for even better results.
Ordered mine - spoke to Steve to get insights on 25th anniversary mods versus base model. Finally based on listening style/preferences and speakers (forte iii) Steve recommended base model.
You guys do a fantastic job explaining sound, quality, details etc.. Just altogether well thought out reviews and videos. You two don't always agree and that just works. Thanks you two! Your review here is why we will be purchasing from Mr. Deckert. This will be paired up with our 1994 Klipsch Chorus II's. We've babied (they are still like new) these for so many years and they deserve this! ;-) All the very best to you and yours, ~Mike
edit: Purchased this particular model. 101db sensitivity aught to work fine.. I just hope I am not 85 years old by the time it arrives.... ;-) What a waiting list!
I’m a hifi newbie, so I’m still drinking from a fire hydrant, but I’ve more or less settled on high efficiency single driver speakers -really drawn to omega 3is or super 7’s-, so this amp seems perfect. My current setup(s) is a Sony tv connected to Vizio soundbar and a Panasonic blu ray player -I watch a lot of movies. For music I have an old onkyo tx8511 receiver and some (presumably) low quality rca bookshelf speakers from a yard sale. I plug my iPhone into receiver and stream from tidal and to me this sounds immensely better than when I use Bluetooth and stream to soundbar. Needless to say Im on a quest to consolidate and improve the quality of my setup. The best way I can describe the sound I like would be “clean” and what I don’t like is “warm”. This is all in a small-med room, I don’t ever want more than two speakers and my budget is $2k. ...So my question is: How might one incorporate this amp and some compatible speakers into a setup that isn’t overtly complex? P.S. thanks for video :)
If I ever pull the trigger and get high efficiency speakers, I am pretty much convinced to opt for the Decware amps simply based on your review. I would still have to audition them first ( both amps and speakers) but I know where to start looking. I was considering Prima Luna amps until I just learned that they are made in China and only come with a 2 year warranty. But before I would buy the Decware, I would most certainly try out the speakers with my Crown pre and power amps that I am currently having recapped. Thanks so much for the great review!! I appreciate what you do and how you do it.
I love this video because my living room has a Yamaha RXV-385 with baby B&W 602 S2, CC6 center, Rock Solid rear and Klipsch 350 watt sub. It is paired with our high end Samsung 65 inch tv. Budget was always a constraint, but now, I am building a listening space with a Denon turntable with an Ortofon 2M Red and Klipsch Heresy IV's. I think the Decware Zen Triode will give me exactly what I want in that room. Current amp is a Luxman R-113. Thoughts and feedback appreciated, positive or negative. Andrew and Kristi have given me the incentive to order one.
Great review, I am most definitely in the high efficiency camp. I use a single ended type 45 amp and a preamp with 1930’s type 27 tubes. These sound absolutely magical with my Klipsch Chorus II’s. To me, there is no better combination than horns and tubes :)
Their build list is on the web. I have been watching for about 6 weeks, and the average total mfg time is a tad over 500 days. The vast majority of that is queue time because there are almost 2000 people in line, including me.
Thanks I have klipsch cornwalls and I had an old eico st40 that was doing well with them. However it has some reliability problems so I've been looking for a brand new amplifier that would sound at least as good but yet be reliable. I've made my decision on the decware zen triode, I can't wait
Hello Andrew, I have just recently come across your channel, and am very impressed. I saw the DECWARE - Zen TUBE Review for the first time today. I wish I had seen it months ago. I would have spent the $6800 I gave to Crutchfield very differently. Keep up the great work.
ANDREW what can I say! No wonder I believe you best. You rock brother 🙏 I been waiting for my order of the zen. Thanks brother your the first one to turn me on to this beuty before anyone. I love your passion and expertise! ✌🙏
Herb Reichert reviewed the 25th anniversary version of this amp and tried it with the Devote O/96 speakers. By the time you buy 2 SE84UFO amps you could buy an SE34i.5 for less money. It puts out 6 watts in stereo and 12 watts mono.
Pre-ordered this amp after watching your review Andrew and I believe it will be worth the wait. Ill be pairing it with Thise Klipsch Heresy IV speakers I also purchased in-part due to your review and love them. Thanks for your sharing as always.
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Maybe something from Ampsandsound, or maybe from Bottlehead (although most of their stuff is DIY)
@@snowrang3r657 I had a Bottlehead piece YEARS ago that I purchased of A'gon. It was nice. Thanks for tuning in!
I love single ended triode amps,, for sure, but they are not for everybody.. There are some good alternatives out there,, though. Although they are push-pull and not SET, Primaluna makes some awesome tube amps, which because of their higher overall power, are possibly a better fit for those with somewhat less efficient speakers. They still have tons of tubey goodness!
Quicksilvers are great value and substantially higher-powered (mostly push-pull) designs. A lot of tube magic that play with a greater range of speakers. The higher powered Quicksilvers would likely sound great with the acoustic suspension designs that are making a comeback.
Awesome review as always, Andrew. As to your question, could you review a Mcintosh tube amp? I've always been enamored by their lush sonic signature and would love to hear your unbiased opinion. Oh, and those blue watt meters - hypnotic! Thanks for reading. And keep those reviews coming!
It said that good things come to those who wait. So true. I received my Decware Zen Amp this week after waiting 1 year and 9 months after watching this review. This amp is my silver bullet, my search is over. Many thanks Andrew and Kristi.
I am so glad you it was worth the wait, Robert.
While I am avid and loyal channel subscriber, I don’t comment much..... but today I have to let you guys know. I love the passion pouring out of this review.
It left me excited and just reaffirms what a great channel can be.
Perfect.
Love from the uk 🇬🇧
🤗 I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY 😍😍😍
Thank you so much Mark! Appreciate it!
I’ve had my 341.5 amp from Decware for about 5 months and can’t say enough good things about it. Yes, I upgraded the caps and and a few other items pushing the price above $2K. Worth every nickel. Excellent with high efficiency speakers.
I have basically the same amp without meters and wood wrap - SE84UFO for $995 - for my Heresy IVs.
It's everything Andrew claims it is! Customer service at Decware is Steve the man. Plenty of db from this unit.
You'll need patience after you order, I had to wait almost 6 months for build time but so worth the wait.
Our Zen SE84UFO2.1 recently arrived after quite a long wait. Hooked it up to our Klipsch Chorus II speakers ( 101db, 1 watt, 1 meter) and what an incredible experience! This video here pretty much sums it up alright. Wish I would have purchased before you , Steve G and Thomas got on it...... 😂 Take care Andrew, and Kristi 👌
Can I ask ? I have been looking for a good single ended amp, as much to 'tube role' potencial valves for my balanced Prima Luna integrated amp as for it's own joy(Listening).
It is important to me I can use KT88 or EL34 valve variants.
I could not see from the decware sight what valve types their amps take.
Could you spell it out to someone relatively new to tube rolling?
Also if you change the installed 'set' can you run KT88 or EL34's on a single ended amp typically? even if unfortunately I had to look elsewhere at another make?
Thanks in advance for any advice I receive.
Got mine 15 years ago and today still sounds better than ever. Steve is the master.
Have an older se84 and it drives my old Energy 22’s at 87db efficiency no problem, my wife keeps telling me to turn it down...so I for one wouldn’t hesitate to say it will power less efficient speakers just fine. Thanks for the great video...
To Kristi: it's impossible to argue with taste but why I love the look of tubes is that the glass envelope and the glowing parts inside offer a visual representation of what tubes do so well: transparency and warmth. It just makes me know that it's going to sound good.
I had this amp, then bought the 25 watt Torii MKIV because moved into a house with a MUCH larger living room. With high efficient speakers, like Klipsch Heresy or Zu anything (I've owned both) and in a small to medium sized room, there is no better amp for the money in the world, not even close. If you need a little more power, the 6 watt Decware is also super great. Andrew's review is humble and honest. SETs + high efficient speakers, like turntables, are probably the best way to reach high-fi nirvana.
Yes. But let’s be clear. They’re not SETs they’re pentodes wired for triode.
I bought my first Zen amp for $500 in 1998. A couple of years later bought the Zen Select which was better. Then bought the Zen Monoblocks in 2002 and finally the Taboo Amp. Thank you Decware, what a sound!!
Decware makes brilliant amps! The sound is just beautiful with right speakers. Love 'em!
They absolutely do! These tiny amps have a quality to them that is just magical IMHO. Thanks for watching!
What's an example of the right speakers?
@@svalbard01 Please watch the review, we cover this extensively.
@@svalbard01 Zu Audio and Omega make some fantastic, high efficiency, speakers on top of Klipsch, of course.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Always watch your reviews, but, respectfully, I was asking Rick.
Thanks so much, Andrew. You and Kristi are so thoughtful, articulate and well produced. Why else would a guy listening to his wife for five minutes still have me glued to the screen? You two are that insightful, so "right on" to you. One question for you: Given that you usually have high-efficency speakers on the floor, how come this isn't the amp you use all the time?
Hey Andew and Kristi. Just happened on your review and it coincides nicely with the delivery of my Zen Triode UFO2. You helped me figure out the right speaker combo and I purchased a pair of Klipsch Heresey IV's. Thanks again!
Ordered one thinking about adding another for my Heresy IVs. What’s you verdict on it so far? Love? Meh?
Okay, thanks for the help with the previous question. I'm eager to build out those surround speakers. I expect those to work and satisfy.
The Forte's arrived, and I think they'll be great, although I'm gonna also try the Cornwalls and take advantage of that Crutchfield 60-day return policy. because I'm told the front facing port may work better in my smaller space 14x14x8, in that they can be closer to the wall. (Though I don't have the Forte's too far out -- maybe a foot -- and they sound great!)
The move to the Forte's however has me wondering if I should go also upgrade the receiver / or add better amplification? Particularly for listening to music. I don't fully understand the world of hi-fi yet, but when listening to the Forte's at lower levels, I kind of wanted more presence ... maybe that means I just wanted more volume ... more loudness ... I don't know, but I wanted "more."
I am currently running the Denon AVR-X4700H. Again, using this system for theater will be important to my family, but I am really enjoying discovering music again and going back to my childhood of my Dad's Harmon Karden and Klipsch KG4 speakers.
I am happy to just continue down the road with this Denon, until I get the other parts of the system built, but was wondering if adding external power or a different direction altogether would be better? Thanks!!!
Thanks again for the support. Regarding more "presence" for your Forte or possibly Cornwalls, running a separate stereo amplifier to them with your Denon serving as a preamp for volume and source selection will likely pay off. You don't have to go crazy, but a good 100+ per channel stereo amp like this bit.ly/3FnlrWs will pair well with those speakers and be ALL the amp they will or would ever need. It's what I use on our Cornwalls and I've very happy!
I ordered mine in March and was informed that it may be done in September. Delayed gratification is hard.
Anxiety is a bytch aint it! Took em 5 months and worth every second.
I’ve been waiting for this review and I wasn’t disappointed. I have mine paired with DIY backloaded corner horns built for me by a friend, It’s clarity is only limited by source. I won’t be buying another amp!
I hear a lot of people say that the ZEN is their last amp. If I didn't run a review channel, it would be mine.
Now i want to swap my setup
And Steve Deckert is a great guy... So easy to work with... These are absolutely perfect for Klipsch Heritage Speakers...
Steve is a GREAT guy and the company is wonderful to do business with! Thanks for tuning in this morning!
He's a real gem!
@@KristiWright I had to crack up when you mentioned you are not a big fan of the looks... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ???? :D
@@ptg01 It really is subjective as I'm sure a lot of people really like the look of tubes.
@@KristiWright Absolutely.... For me, Steve's amps are almost like artwork.. simple yet elegant. Very low tech at that... BUT, I do get your point as my wife forces me to hide my SET amp inside an armoire as she does not like the exposed tubes ! It can be dangerous too if you have kids or pets.. Back before y'all were born, tube amps were covered too I remember my Dad's Fisher amp from the 60's was fully covered like today's solid state amp.. but with most tube amps, especially Class A, you can fry an egg on it !
I've spoken with Steve several times- he is very personable. Good review.
Wow! I requested this review Monday; uploaded Thursday! Let me know when you're ready for my next request lol
We aim to please! Thanks for tuning in!
Andrew is by far my favorite reviewer on YT! Love his approach to reviewing gear. I watch other reviewers, but not are in his league!
Thanks for requesting the review...it was amazing. I will be buying one of these.
Glad this company is getting the critical recognition it deserves and their full order book shows they are doing well. American designed and made, no nonsense designs, and they're perfectly competitive with the stuff coming out of China.
OUTSTANDING REVIEW ANDREW! One of your all-time best!
I'm very happy that Steve is finally getting his due ... Decware is by far one of the best and true sonic bargains in all of home audio.
I've owned my SE84UFO for about a year and a half and paired with another sonic bargain, my Zu Omen MKII DW's (97 db 1w/meter efficiency) creates "you are there" audio like no other I've had in my home over a 60 year journey with audio equipment.
I use a Conrad Johnson PV5 Preamp that I purchased new back in 1985. 3D sound? You bet and with so much micro detail, dynamism, natural timbre.
Steve makes his own transformers and will suggest that's a big part of why his units have that control you mention..
As Sean Casey of Zu talks about in his UA-cam interview with John Atkinson, crossovers, heat and other mechanical issues eat up most of that wattage so that maybe a watt or two actually powers your average sensitivity speakers. Sean says high sensitivity speakers are more dynamic as well and ... If you eliminate the issues (as Sean has), it makes a Decware amp very viable for home audio with wonderful results as it has in my case. From where I'm sitting, The Decware/Zu combination cannot be beat for price to performance.
Herb Reichert loves the Decwares with Klipsch RP600's, Zu's and other more sensitive speakers.
Great job Andrew... I'm glad to hear how well the Decware has worked with all your speaker systems and ... Just wait until you get into some serious tube rolling!
Thank you so much Don! Appreciate you sharing your personal experience.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Sorry if I'm over the top on this stuff. I'm just glad Steve's getting the recognition he deserves. He's a good and humble guy about all of what he produces.
As well, keep doing what you're doing. The world needs men like you to bring some truth to an industry that's too often been long on hyperbole and a little short on delivery.
I believe the high speaker sensitivity/low power approach of actually pre- WWII is the way of the future (Back To The Future?)that should never have been abandoned in the 1960's with the acoustic suspension speaker.
Check out Steve's open baffle speaker offerings if you have a chance.... thanks again... Vic aka Don Vito.
My dirty weekends are due to ship in 2 weeks ordering my zen next week
@@tplank216 You won't be disappointed. These components need "play-in" time so as the weeks go on you'll start to hear more and more detail, nuance and natural timbres.
One of the system types I use is low-powered SE amps with full-range single driver speakers. This puts the smallest possible number of components between the source and your ears. And it shows in the transparency and effortless realism of the sound.
Great review! I think it's safe to say we've ALL been waiting for this one. I aim to get this amp in the future so it was really awesome having all my hopes and concerns validated/addressed, I'll definitely be watching this one more than once. I'd love to see your take on the Willsenton R8. Thank you for the wonderful channel, I'm so glad I subscribed
Man, I have been out of the game for far too long. Didn't know anyone was making old school tube amps. I love the old school looks of these things. Takes me back to the 70's when my dad used to make me run down to the corner store to test tubes. Very cool.
Awesome review. I can't wait to hear it with ZU Dirty Weekends. This combo should blow my wig off if I am not careful.I am glad I ordered the same amp in December in walnut. with a Decware ZP3 phono stage. The anticipation is literally killing me.
Not really beginners audio component. This is bought for what it is by serious connoisseurs of the hobby, remote be damned. I love it.
Great review as usual guys
Will this amp work with the 8000F?
Ordered one of these over a year ago. Still have a long way to go on the waitlist. Right now, the setup I have while waiting:
- Peachtree Audio nova300
- Fluance RT85N (with a Nagaoka MP-110 Cartridge)
- Klipsch RP-8000F II (listed with 98 dB sensitivity)
- iFi Hi-Res bluetooth receiver
This may be a dumb question, but will I need a pre-amp? Any suggestions on which for this setup?
On a side note, I remember looking at the Zen amp 20 years ago when I was in college. At that time, I think you could order it as a kit and assemble it yourself. The fact that it is still being sold (with a 2 year waitlist) means it must be good.
I guess you wife review is the most honest opinion from “outside” audiophile people. If She make her own video review, definitely will sell 😀👍
Wow! I have never understood, or really cared to find out more, about the efficiency/sensitivity ratings of speakers, but you explained it so beautifully. I totally get it now. Thank you! Love your videos!
Glad to help!
Coincidence: Steve Guttenberg used a Decware amp in his latest video when revisiting the Cornwall 4
I noticed that too!!!
I bought a Zen back in Sept. to power my 95db rated open baffle speakers. This combination amazes me every day. I'm no longer looking for something better! I like Steve Deckert's quote on High wattage amps. " If the first watt sucks, why would you want more"
Can you share what speakers are those?
@@TheRacingSlick I built the speakers from Teakwood panels I got from Lowe’s. They are based on the design from Caintuck Audio. Mine are barrel shaped 22x24 x1in. I found the drivers on eBay. They are vintage Zenith alnico 12 in. taken from a 1963 Zenith console. Back then all of the amps. Where low watt tube types. Although these drivers sound great, I’m going to build another pair in the fall using the Lii F15 drivers. I’m sure the technology has improved greatly in 60 years. If you haven’t heard any before, you can make a pair of open Baffle speakers very easy without spending a lot of money. You won’t believe the difference in the holographic image or soundstage. I have a pair of Design Acoustic floor standing models that I paid $1000. For in 1986. I will probably never listen to them again. There’s no comparison in the sound.
Tubes are a bit out of my comfort zone but great review and great information as always thank you both
Thanks for the great explanations! As someone kinda jumping into the audiophile frey with only enough knowledge to be dangerous, it's really nice to have terms explained in a way that doesn't assume too much of an understanding already.
In short, thanks for not assuming we all already know the basics.
So glad to hear you found the video helpful! We try to make our videos approachable to everyone. Thanks for watching!
Summary: Christy is a Yamaha girl.
Great video! Really enjoying it, well done both of you!
Kristi is definitely a Yamaha fan.
Hi, I'm rocking yamaha's too. Yamaha ns333 powered by yamaha as500 with a yst350 sub. I'm wondering if I buy a kilpsch r51m, would it be an upgrade over my ns333? I usually stream through ifi zen blue. Thank you 😁
Back to this thread after two years. It took me eighteen months to get this amp. This gave me time to DIY my speakers with Lii F15 drivers. It is up to my expectations which were right over the top. If you do the same, make sure you have not only the speakers but also a high end source with clean power, then it is phenomenal.
For those who want a bit more power, Decware just built a new amp which should be even better, a 300B made expecially for the new Western Electric 300B tube.....end game for ever !
Waiting list is even longer now.
Pay attention to what Andrew says here about speaker matching with this amp. It is important to understand this.
I bought a SV84b back in the 90s and still love it. Have it hooked up to my La Scala's... and occasionally a pair Lowthers. Amazing, but am thinking that it's time to upgrade to this version. THANKS STEVE!!!
Do Decware ship these to Australia? I can't seem to find any info on their website that they ship internationally. I'd love to pair one of these with Klipsch Cornwall IV's.
I have a friend in NZ ,hes bought one so assume they will
Ordered mine in December. The wait struggle is real. Purposely scored some Heresy II's and restored them for this amp. Can' t wait!
Did you get your zen amp yet and how is it with your Heresy’s?
@@Steveh817 yes finally! It sounded great but I ended up trading them for a set of Original Forte’s….Which sound sublime
@@splaff79 👍 glad to hear you received it. When did you receive? Only asking because I ordered a zen amp in May and figure early next year based on what people are saying now. I’m in no hurry so not a big deal.
You know DecWare has other Higher Power Amps that I never see reviewed anywhere.
I know they cost much more, but do they sound like they are as good? - m.
Yes, yes ... YES. I have the UFO2 (not 25th anniversary) and my speakers are simple, vintage Large Advents - two pair stacked. I’m in a small room, so YMMV. And I’ve tube rolled (try a NOS Sylvania type 80 rectifier with adapter!) and wow, wow, WOW! I’m using a Rogers Canada 6JD8 and 7189 power tubes. It is a stunning rig. I’ve auditioned it with Triangle Gaias and it’s a good match, but I’m next going to try Wharfedale Lintons.
...sounds like this could be an ideal pairing with the Omen Dirty Weekend (97 dB-SPL 1W, 1m). Yeehaww!!
YES! Decware + ZU is a great combo.
My present system! I've had this pairing for about a year and a half and it only keeps getting better and better ... especially with rolling different tubes.
Works beautifully... true to life sound. Very revealing to good sound sources. Tough to beat at any price but I say save yourself time and money... buy the Zu DW's with clarity cap upgrade and SE84UFO and spend the rest of your time and money on listening to the music you really enjoy.
Thank you for this rapport.
I have my own special build speaker cabinets with Fostex FE206En and I use now with a borrowed amp with EL84 with vintage OPT of 5k/8 ohm. The amp with these speakers creates a similar "magi" what this video talks about... it’s real magic and I cannot stop listening to it. So the EL84 has real true potential.
My first project was this speaker and I got the results what is overall expectations... I'm very happy about this... and I enjoy
every day how the music should be music.
My second project will begin now to make a 300B SE amp and later on another own EL84 SE amp. (The EL84 amp just for fun) I'm sure the 300B setup will produce higher sonic magi and more "control" with a wider and deeper 3D field.
Hello! Hope your day is off to a great start!
Great review! I've got a Zen on order (from like Dec 2020) It does take some time to get one, but then again it's a piece of art and hand-made, so I was expecting that wait to be honest. And actually I have the perfect pair of speakers already that'll pair beautifully this this amp: I have Caintuck Audio open baffles with the Lii F-12 drivers (no cross-over at all) essentially 100db sensitivity. Already I'm using them with a 6.3 Watt tube amp (and frankly I think that tubes look beautiful with their romantic, mysterious glow) and they sound awesome and I dare not turn up the volume too loud. With a review like this I KNOW that the Zen Triode is going to rock my musical world. :)
Excellent review, thank-you Andrew.
I committed to a pair of 3W triode monoblocks in the late 90s and haven't looked back. They drove my 82db/w transmission line speakers surprisingly well but I weakened about 10 years ago and bought a pair of Lowther Acousta 115s (96db+ depending on drive unit choice). Apparently Jimi Hendrix listened to his Handel records through a pair, a decision I cannot fault. The low power/high efficiency route gets *me* closer to the music, I become absorbed in the performance and forget the electronics. As ever (particularly with HiFi), your mileage may vary.
Good follow up video would be a review on a higher powered Decware like the Zen Triode Integrated or TORII Jr. for people with lower sensitivity speakers. I’m sure Steve would loan you one 👍
I’ve had one for almost four years, paired with Omega super high output alnico monitors and love it. I listen mid-field in a smallish room. I never feel like I need more power. I do sometimes wonder about the 25th anniversary model….wonder if it would be worth the money to upgrade.
Okay, who just bought the Decware amp that was for sale on USaudiomart for $550? I asked the seller a question and then it was gone. Darn :(
What do you think about this amp paired with Spatial Audio M3 Sapphire or X5?
Great review - it would be interesting to compare this tube amp with a low power Class-A solid state amplifier
Maybe stay tuned...
I'm glad you finally reviewed the Decware! I have all of his DIY plans. I have modded drivers to build his Zen Open Baffle speaker once we move and settle in. I can't imagine a better combo for acoustic singer/songwriters than the ZOB and a Decware amp.
I always hit the like button while multitasking and not even realizing I'm obeying lol.
For anyone interested in speakers for the little Zen amps don't disregard old models of single driver bookshelf speakers from the late 60's and early 70's. They were actually common and all would have the stunning coherence full-range drivers are known for. Even Radio Shack had full-range driver bookshelf speakers of that era featuring original single Fostex high efficiency drivers. The combo of crossover-less speakers with small SET amps is the end game for acoustic jazz, singer songwriter music.
Right on schedule! Awesome insight, thank you!
Thanks! Thanks for tuning in!
I have never heard an amp even close to the performance of the Decware amp. Truly jaw dropping!
I want this, even though I only have powered speakers. I'd have to get new speakers, I think.
With powered speakers, try their preamp 😉
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thanks! Still learning all these things!
finally a proper decware tube amp review...I am studying the headphone amp option for a while, and honestly the review of the loudspeaker amp version is enough to convince me.
Excellent review!
Thanks!
Mr. Robinson, is the Klipsch RP600M a good pairing with this beautiful amplifier?
I’ve messaged paradigm, to pester them to give you their new speakers to review lol.
Appreciate it! We've emailed them many times to no avail.
I messaged AnthemAV too about their Integrated! Hopefully they'll get the message.
I messaged Paradigm for you as well a while back. They’re being very impolite for Canadians. When I get my license back (medical issues) I may just take a 30 minute drive and knock on their door about it.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews have you tried contacting Totem for a review? Would love to see your take on them. A great Canadian speaker company
So glad you reviewed this. My buddy lives down the road from them and wants to get one of their tube amps. Glad to see them back in the spotlight.
Appreciate you tuning in!
@@KristiWright always. You all have way better toys to play with than I do
Sarah Richardson emailed me that the waiting period if now 3 years!
It's now 4 years, if you know an amp tech Decware will sell you the Zen Triode pcb and a list of components, it adds up to about $450 plus PCB price at the moment - this includes Edcor transformers (one power, two output), and parts from Mouser, Digikey, and Partsexpress. Edcor makes transformers to order, so expect 2 weeks for delivery in the US. It really is something to smell a freshly painted brand new transformer. It will take you a couple hours to order the parts because you need to find equivalent components as the parts list supplied by Decware with manufacturer ID's is very outdated. I'm building two of these amps for a friend. So $450 plus maybe 5-10 hours of amp tech pay, I'd estimate about $1,000-1,500 per amp depending on who you hire. Don't try building one yourself, the power transformer outputs 600 volts. If you do have someone build one for you, the filter caps and other components are essentially exposed - so have your tech cover them well with cloth covers for the leads. You don't want anyone or a pet getting zapped while in operation.
I just bought the Willsenton R8 because I need a fine amp for not a lot of money. Having said that the Decware is an artisan product inside and out that I would LOVE to have in my sight every day.
Because some know the vintage quality tube amps were and are still better,
Given your exposure to a lot of speakers, getting your take on the Decware and Omega speakers would be invaluable. I have the Decware DM945 and am quite impressed with their sound, especially at about a grand.
I've asked Omega to review their speakers but nothing comes of it. I would love to let you know my thoughts but can't get Omega to commit.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Aah thanks for the response! That's unfortunate. Perhaps, you can get a pair of Decware speakers to review then. I believe that Steve must apply that same philosophy of simplicity yet great musicality that he uses for tube amps to speakers.
Why does nobody ever show this amp being used? It’s always just video of it sitting on a table.
Thanks for the video, Andrew.
Do you think the listener is going to benefit from bridging 2 amps and having greater headroom, or is it not worth the extra expenditure?
Depends on the efficiency of the speakers.
Fantastic, I have been waiting for this! 😃 I really like this somewhat steampunk/1920's mesh-up look.
Would love to see a review of the Cayin CS-88A.
Hope the review was worth the wait! Thanks for tuning in!
Loved this review. Love that analog tube amps, especially class a, reveal the effort musicians put into their performances.
I like Bottlehead. Makes high quality SETs available for budgetminded.
Can’t wait to sit down with a nice cup of tea and watch this, I have been looking forward to it
I can't wait to hear what you think of our review when you do!
I understand everything you are saying about this beauty, the Decware UFO integrated amplifier because I am using two 7watt per channel Sony solid state receiver. I am using a 98, 100 and 103 dB speakers and they play loud, warm and detailed. I know how a tube amplifier sounds like having owned a Zenith SET from a Cordoba console and a Heathkit that has its On/Off switch via its only 'tone' control. I know exactly what you are describing Mr. Robinson and when I use my Coral 12TX with my Sony, it bring me ¾ to tube sound warmth and some detail to go with it. There's no Decware dealer where I live but your review is spot-on. Greetings from the Philippines 🇵🇭👍👌.
I enjoy Kristi's comment. I wish she were on camera when she's talking. You didn't mention one non sonic issue with Decware amps, it will take them more than half a year to build and send it to you! They don't charge 90% of the cost until it is almost ready, but that's a long time to wait :(
I had no issues with the amp sonically. As for the lead time, we discussed it in the video.
OMG after listening to this I was shock over price. Unbeilable Great review love it keep up the good work.
why is everything you review is best you ever heard. its hard to believe what you say if everything is best your ever heard an your favorite. i noticed you say its your favorite on every review i heard from you.
Andrew I can only imagine your voice being just that extra measure of silky smooth in person when compared to the convoluted chain of devices, transcoding and reproduction required to hear you as well as I am capable currently. Also, your review would lead me to believe the Decware as a desktop amp, or a similarly powered headphone amp would be spectacular.
Decware makes some headphone amps in this same style and I hear they're AWESOME. But for desktop use, minus the heat, the ZEN would be great!
Please review the PrimaLuna EVO integrated tube amplifiers. Thank you.
I'm definitely putting this on my wish list for either this year or the next. Great review! Thanks Andrew!
I believe the build list is about 9 months now so place your order now. A deposit is needed to place the order and full payment is due when ready to ship. The packing is very impressive. I ordered mine in July of 2020 and received it in January. There have been a number of UA-cam and magazine reviews in the past 18 months so the waitlist has grown.
why bother with tubes if it doesnt do anything to the sound
wdym?
Andrew and Kristi ... you two make a great team
I put my order in for one of these back in Feb. Can't wait to get it!! I own Zu Audio DW's What caps did you get with your amp and did you get the MOD for it?
Thanks , great review Like to see PrimaLuna EVO 300 Tube amp :)
Mine is stock with respect to caps. I only customized the finish and volume control as I wanted this unit to be as close to stock as possible. Obviously you can customize it quite a bit for even better results.
Ordered mine - spoke to Steve to get insights on 25th anniversary mods versus base model. Finally based on listening style/preferences and speakers (forte iii) Steve recommended base model.
Only dudes can relate to tubes and things sticking up 🤣.
You guys do a fantastic job explaining sound, quality, details etc.. Just altogether well thought out reviews and videos. You two don't always agree and that just works. Thanks you two! Your review here is why we will be purchasing from Mr. Deckert. This will be paired up with our 1994 Klipsch Chorus II's. We've babied (they are still like new) these for so many years and they deserve this! ;-) All the very best to you and yours, ~Mike
edit: Purchased this particular model. 101db sensitivity aught to work fine.. I just hope I am not 85 years old by the time it arrives.... ;-) What a waiting list!
NO, NO, NO ! ! ! !
IT's NOT TWO WATTS,
IT's TWO THOUSAND MILLIWATTS !!!!!
Turn it on and lights dim for miles around your house !!!!
I’m a hifi newbie, so I’m still drinking from a fire hydrant, but I’ve more or less settled on high efficiency single driver speakers -really drawn to omega 3is or super 7’s-, so this amp seems perfect.
My current setup(s) is a Sony tv connected to Vizio soundbar and a Panasonic blu ray player -I watch a lot of movies. For music I have an old onkyo tx8511 receiver and some (presumably) low quality rca bookshelf speakers from a yard sale. I plug my iPhone into receiver and stream from tidal and to me this sounds immensely better than when I use Bluetooth and stream to soundbar. Needless to say Im on a quest to consolidate and improve the quality of my setup. The best way I can describe the sound I like would be “clean” and what I don’t like is “warm”. This is all in a small-med room, I don’t ever want more than two speakers and my budget is $2k. ...So my question is: How might one incorporate this amp and some compatible speakers into a setup that isn’t overtly complex?
P.S. thanks for video :)
If I ever pull the trigger and get high efficiency speakers, I am pretty much convinced to opt for the Decware amps simply based on your review. I would still have to audition them first ( both amps and speakers) but I know where to start looking. I was considering Prima Luna amps until I just learned that they are made in China and only come with a 2 year warranty. But before I would buy the Decware, I would most certainly try out the speakers with my Crown pre and power amps that I am currently having recapped. Thanks so much for the great review!! I appreciate what you do and how you do it.
I love this video because my living room has a Yamaha RXV-385 with baby B&W 602 S2, CC6 center, Rock Solid rear and Klipsch 350 watt sub. It is paired with our high end Samsung 65 inch tv. Budget was always a constraint, but now, I am building a listening space with a Denon turntable with an Ortofon 2M Red and Klipsch Heresy IV's. I think the Decware Zen Triode will give me exactly what I want in that room. Current amp is a Luxman R-113. Thoughts and feedback appreciated, positive or negative. Andrew and Kristi have given me the incentive to order one.
Great review, I am most definitely in the high efficiency camp. I use a single ended type 45 amp and a preamp with 1930’s type 27 tubes. These sound absolutely magical with my Klipsch Chorus II’s. To me, there is no better combination than horns and tubes :)
Their build list is on the web. I have been watching for about 6 weeks, and the average total mfg time is a tad over 500 days. The vast majority of that is queue time because there are almost 2000 people in line, including me.
The queue is now well over 2000.
Saw the Instagram post on this and couldn't wait till my lunch break. Lol. Great review. Thx again.
Hope you enjoyed it!
Thanks I have klipsch cornwalls and I had an old eico st40 that was doing well with them. However it has some reliability problems so I've been looking for a brand new amplifier that would sound at least as good but yet be reliable. I've made my decision on the decware zen triode, I can't wait
How did it go?
Hello Andrew, I have just recently come across your channel, and am very impressed. I saw the DECWARE - Zen TUBE Review for the first time today. I wish I had seen it months ago. I would have spent the $6800 I gave to Crutchfield very differently. Keep up the great work.
ANDREW what can I say! No wonder I believe you best. You rock brother 🙏 I been waiting for my order of the zen. Thanks brother your the first one to turn me on to this beuty before anyone. I love your passion and expertise! ✌🙏
Hmmm, wonder how a couple of these as monoblocs would pair with the DeVore O/96. I might have to try that out.
Herb Reichert reviewed the 25th anniversary version of this amp and tried it with the Devote O/96 speakers. By the time you buy 2 SE84UFO amps you could buy an SE34i.5 for less money. It puts out 6 watts in stereo and 12 watts mono.
When Andrew says it is one of the best, I believe it. That’s why I’m giving this amp a shot. Thanks for the review man.
Pre-ordered this amp after watching your review Andrew and I believe it will be worth the wait. Ill be pairing it with Thise Klipsch Heresy IV speakers I also purchased in-part due to your review and love them. Thanks for your sharing as always.
As a Decware amps owner I agree. Great amps for right speakers.
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