Good list ! one thing I disagree on : IMHO Mick Jones was the musical engine of the Clash, not Strummer. And he evolved so much more than Strummer after the break-up. To me the Mescaleros sound very close to The Clash, whereas Big Audio Dynamite, Jones’ band, was really groundbreaking, fusing rap, electro and rock guitars, and opening the way for bands like Gorillaz 20 years later. (this is my band’s account btw, we are quite heavily influenced by the clash….check it out if you’re curious!)
We've often discussed the Clash and post-Clash bands on the podcast. The Clash is definitely a seminal band, and still somehow seems under-appreciated. These guys and their musical lives after the Clash absolutely influenced so many artists of today. Music is a time machine...we just get in and go on a trip. Thanks for the comment! We'll check your band out! Happy Spinning!
NMTB by the Pistols is the greatest and most important Punk Rock album of all time...but The Ruts first album "The Crack" and the first and third albums by The Damned,namely "Damned Damned Damned" and "Machine Gun Etiquette" should be Top Five as well.
The real tough part in doing ranking shows is getting out of the way of yourself. I likely would have put Television- Marquee Moon in place of Gang of Four if I could have found my copy. The Damned would be on a top 10 list, but personally I feel like a few other bands slide in front of them. Wire - Pink Flag is another that needs to be on the list.
I think the Ramones' sound evolved quite a bit over the years. When I do listen to them these days, it's typically the stuff they did in the 80's that I want to hear. That's not to say their 80's stuff was better than the 70's stuff; it's just a different sound, and I simply burnt out on their 70's sound in my youth. I think they matured in their sound much the same way the Stones or the Beatles did from their earlier stuff, less like a band like Metallica who maybe matured in sound but perhaps declined in quality.
That is a great summation of the Ramones. Yes, they evolved, pretty much the same sound but a new direction. I need to go back and listen to the End of the Century, the Phil Spector album and really listen to the different sound.
I wanted to see how the rest of the world viewed this theory. This is from Paste Magazine, a pretty good source. Yep, it has a number the 80s songs in the top 25.
Gang Of Four were not 1st wave punks. Entertainment didn't come out until 1979 ... 3 years after the "first wave". I can't see how Damned Damned Damned is not included
We mentioned on the show Gang of Four were kinda on the edge. Considered the Damned and Stranglers. In the same vein the Clash first LP likely makes more sense. It’s an opinion, we could be wrong.
@@WoodyWoahzay bad is one man’s opinion. Personally, my favorite Clash album is Sandinista. For the list we take into account several factors. Everything from music to popularity (yes that matters, in a bands catalog) to influence. For the Clash, as mentioned on the show, the first album may belong better in the list, but London Calling changed how the world viewed punk.
@@vinylventures5943 yes, London Calling is my favourite of theirs and one of my favourites of all time. I was referring to thier album "Cut the crap!" as being bad, by thier very high standards, just in case that wasn't clear.
@@WoodyWoahzay yes, we should have picked up on that reference. It is so bad, we don’t own a copy. After Combat Rock, there was no more Clash. It is a little like the Doors cobbling together albums after Morrison’s death. This is England is maybe the only song that worked. The synthesizers just don’t work.
Finally a show for Wheels to shine!!
Indeed
" To hell with poverty ! We'll get drunk on cheap wine . "
Can you argue with that logic?
YE
GOOD GOOD LIST! I own both of the last two on vinyl.
God Save the Queen... She ain't no human being.
That's my guy, thanks Matt.
*You earn no special points for owning vinyl*
I love SANDINISTA!
Agreed!
Probably their worst album....Actually,no...Cut The Crap was even worse lololol
Good list ! one thing I disagree on : IMHO Mick Jones was the musical engine of the Clash, not Strummer. And he evolved so much more than Strummer after the break-up. To me the Mescaleros sound very close to The Clash, whereas Big Audio Dynamite, Jones’ band, was really groundbreaking, fusing rap, electro and rock guitars, and opening the way for bands like Gorillaz 20 years later.
(this is my band’s account btw, we are quite heavily influenced by the clash….check it out if you’re curious!)
We've often discussed the Clash and post-Clash bands on the podcast. The Clash is definitely a seminal band, and still somehow seems under-appreciated.
These guys and their musical lives after the Clash absolutely influenced so many artists of today.
Music is a time machine...we just get in and go on a trip.
Thanks for the comment! We'll check your band out! Happy Spinning!
Agree with you on Jones, love Big Audio Dynamite (hard to find their stuff too).
@@vinylventures5943 oh if you discussed Post-Clash stuff.... I'll definitely check past episodes!! Rock on guys!
BAD was so good.
@@morgellon7877 underrated for sure!
NMTB by the Pistols is the greatest and most important Punk Rock album of all time...but The Ruts first album "The Crack" and the first and third albums by The Damned,namely "Damned Damned Damned" and "Machine Gun Etiquette" should be Top Five as well.
Absolutely love the Damned! It’s tough when you can only pick 5…but that’s why we do it! Thanks for sharing and watching!
The real tough part in doing ranking shows is getting out of the way of yourself. I likely would have put Television- Marquee Moon in place of Gang of Four if I could have found my copy. The Damned would be on a top 10 list, but personally I feel like a few other bands slide in front of them. Wire - Pink Flag is another that needs to be on the list.
I think the Ramones' sound evolved quite a bit over the years. When I do listen to them these days, it's typically the stuff they did in the 80's that I want to hear. That's not to say their 80's stuff was better than the 70's stuff; it's just a different sound, and I simply burnt out on their 70's sound in my youth. I think they matured in their sound much the same way the Stones or the Beatles did from their earlier stuff, less like a band like Metallica who maybe matured in sound but perhaps declined in quality.
That is a great summation of the Ramones. Yes, they evolved, pretty much the same sound but a new direction. I need to go back and listen to the End of the Century, the Phil Spector album and really listen to the different sound.
I wanted to see how the rest of the world viewed this theory. This is from Paste Magazine, a pretty good source. Yep, it has a number the 80s songs in the top 25.
Gang Of Four were not 1st wave punks. Entertainment didn't come out until 1979 ... 3 years after the "first wave". I can't see how Damned Damned Damned is not included
We mentioned on the show Gang of Four were kinda on the edge. Considered the Damned and Stranglers. In the same vein the Clash first LP likely makes more sense. It’s an opinion, we could be wrong.
Anarchy in the UK. Christo-fascism in the US. Johnny Lydon voted for it.
Is HE the one?
Good, I was already sick of Marxism in punk back in the 70s, never liked the clash.
@@EugeneLorey
*I really like your attitude. Decidedly so*
There are two much better Clash albums than London Calling....
Agreed. This list is Punk Bands. We showed albums by those bands to talk about the bands. But there are no bad Clash albums.
@@vinylventures5943 Cut the crap! And it is bad, mainly because all the other albums are so good.
@@WoodyWoahzay bad is one man’s opinion. Personally, my favorite Clash album is Sandinista. For the list we take into account several factors. Everything from music to popularity (yes that matters, in a bands catalog) to influence. For the Clash, as mentioned on the show, the first album may belong better in the list, but London Calling changed how the world viewed punk.
@@vinylventures5943 yes, London Calling is my favourite of theirs and one of my favourites of all time. I was referring to thier album "Cut the crap!" as being bad, by thier very high standards, just in case that wasn't clear.
@@WoodyWoahzay yes, we should have picked up on that reference. It is so bad, we don’t own a copy. After Combat Rock, there was no more Clash. It is a little like the Doors cobbling together albums after Morrison’s death. This is England is maybe the only song that worked. The synthesizers just don’t work.